On Apr 3, 3:12 am, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 2, 5:05 pm, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > But the experiment didn't show there was more or less free will.  It didn't 
> > even show
> > there was any free will.  It just showed that inducing a belief in free 
> > will changed
> > performance.
>
> Performance in what though? Readiness to execute personal will.

Nothing in the experiment indicates the will was free in a
philosophical
sense, just the usual scientific sense of volition, ie conscious
control
or control by higher brain centres.

> >It might have also shown that belief in alien abductions changed
> > performance.
>
> No, they did controls to eliminate that. There may be other beliefs
> that change people's ability to take action as well, but this study
> suggests that this specific idea that we should doubt the existence of
> our own free will has a negative impact on the very thing that is
> being considered.
>
> > Either one is perfectly consistent with determinism.
>
> No, determinism would not allow a mention of a deterministic function
> of the brain to affect the performance of that function, because then
> it wouldn't be deterministic - it would be open to suggestion by
> others and by ourselves.

One deterministic process can affect another. Think of dropping a
clock
of a tall building.

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