LOL! You crack me up Tom. The truth is just that funny!
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From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 4:43 PM
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They're all trying to fix their broken networks, and it's taking them
Isn't there a swynk list dedicated to certification banter?
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From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
Why do we go through this every three to six
]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: segunda-feira, 6 de Maio de 2002 14:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
Isn't there a swynk list dedicated to certification banter?
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From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
They're all trying to fix their broken networks, and it's taking them
awhile. That isn't part of the core curriculum, unfortunately.
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From: Filipe Joel de Almeida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Monday, May
Do you have the link to sign up for that list?
-Chris
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Filipe Joel de
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 3:08 PM
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getting ready to be flamed
Doesn't that depend on what the person pursuing the certification wants?
I mean, on what scale are you determining the 'best'?
Cisco is not a certification. They have several different certs.
William
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Jack of all trades, master of none?
kidding... Mostly
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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:04 PM
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Multiple, varied, certifications
Why do we go through this every three to six months?
William
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Certs are not a sign
New people. Old pissed off people. Etc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William
Lefkovics
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Why do we go through this every three to six
Engineer
MCP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Soysal, Serdar
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:55 PM
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Certs are not a sign of competency. They just mean that the person is
capable
I second Office Space, two thumbs up.
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From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Office Space
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From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
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From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 May 2002 00:32
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Cerification question
Nope. Haven't taken a single test. Call me lazy.
aol me too /aol
I've taken a fair few tests and wouldn't mind finishing off
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
Certs are not a sign of competency. They just mean that the person is
capable of memorizing braindumps. I interviewed MCSEs that answered the
question Explain your NT domain structure in your previous job with an
answer like We had ATM coming
Mmm. Wallls..
Slurp!
-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:55 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Cerification question
Subject: RE: Cerification question
Certs are not a sign
.
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From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:43 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
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Very good points.
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[mailto:[EMAIL
I am probably already in contact with them. We tend to find each other
wherever we go.
-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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I know a couple others already
No backup in the form of a person, plenty of tape backup
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From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:09 PM
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No backup?
--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA
I have been conducting all my interviews wrong..!!!
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From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
This may sound odd but there is one golden question that will tell
Hmm. Maybe that explains why I'm such a pariah: I don't go to movies!
-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:35 AM
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This may sound odd but there is one golden question
What are the 3 movies?
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:34 AM
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This may sound odd but there is one golden question that will tell you
exactly
Any anyone can get in a car and crash it.
And anyone can get on a server ..
H.
-Original Message-
From: Jerzy Setmajer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 May 2002 16:45
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Cerification question
I do not understand what is all the fuss
: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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This may sound odd but there is one golden question that will tell you
exactly if the candidate will fit the group or not: What are your three
favorite movies? If the person likes similar movies
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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I do not understand what is all the fuss about.
I would like to point out that nobody here said that having a cert could
hurt you. That means that it will be either ignored
, May 02, 2002 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: Cerification question
This may sound odd but there is one golden question that will tell you
exactly if the candidate will fit the group or not: What are your three
favorite movies? If the person likes similar movies as the general
team
and sounds smart, than he
Of Stephen Mynhier
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
I deal with (new and different) people daily who have worked with
Exchange for years but don't know their database from their check file.
I wouldn't let them within 20 feet of any
Subject: Re: Cerification question
That is so not fair. I doubt that my three favorite movies
would endear
me to a group of men, who tend to be a bit more, shall we say,
neandrathal, in their choices.
M
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List posting
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From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 May 2002 16:05
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Cerification question
That is so not fair. I doubt that my three favorite movies
would endear me to a group of men, who tend to be a bit more
Ugh Ugh Ugh
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From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:05 AM
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That is so not fair. I doubt that my three favorite
: Randal, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:15 AM
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Go on, tell us, and we can put it to the test :-)
Phil
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Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2002/05/02 Thu AM 10:54:52 EDT
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But that analogy doesnt quite fit.
You are required by law to have a license in order to drive.
Companies who require certifications as a minimal
: RE: Cerification question
This argument is like a Missouri wedding: all relative.
John Allhiser CCNP MCSE
Network Engineer
Generali Reassurance
(Kansas side)
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From: Gordon Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:29 PM
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: Randal, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Go on, tell us, and we can put it to the test :-)
Phil
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Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire
...
-Original Message-
From: Jerzy Setmajer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:28 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
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Subject: RE: RE: Cerification question
My point is that having a cert can't hurt you
There you go. You're hired. Oops. Didn't mean to place a curse on you
like that. Sorry.
Serdar Soysal
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From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Well, I just
I feel better now.
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:52 PM
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There you go. You're hired. Oops. Didn't mean to place a curse on you
like that. Sorry
Ctr
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From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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2001 A Space Odyssey
Clockwork Orange
Full Metal Jacket
Does that mean that I should only work for a dysfunctional company
and is the best flick I have seen in
awhile. A refreshing change from Patriotic inspired Police society big
explosion trash..
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From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
An off the wall movie is Army of Darkness. This is a big time B movie.
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From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:03 AM
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Dang right, you're disfunctional with Clockwork
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2001 A Space Odyssey
Clockwork Orange
Full Metal Jacket
Does that mean that I should only work for a dysfunctional company...?
-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL
Netflix.com, same place one finds all the other ones.
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From: Orr, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Thursday, May 02, 2002 01:57 PM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: Cerification question
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So where
: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:57 PM
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So where does one find this film?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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mallrats (classic)
a really messed up movie that made me go what the hell did i watch was (Lost
Highway)
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From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 3:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
Ok so I was wrong
question
What are the 3 movies?
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:34 AM
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This may sound odd but there is one golden question that will tell you
exactly
1. History of the World, Part I
2. Star Wars Trilogy
3. J. S. Superstar
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From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:42 AM
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1. Life of Brian
2. Crimson Tide
3. Boys
Poop. J. C., not J. S..
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From: David Florea
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:02 PM
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1. History of the World, Part I
2. Star Wars Trilogy
3. J. S. Superstar
-Original Message-
From: Martin
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From: David Florea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 16:04
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Poop. J. C., not J. S..
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From: David Florea
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From: David Florea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Poop. J. C., not J. S..
-Original Message-
From: David Florea
For a minute I thought they finally made a movie about me.
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 4:04 PM
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Poop. J. C., not J. S..
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: RE: Cerification question
An off the wall movie is Army of Darkness. This is a big time B movie.
-Original Message-
From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Dang right, you're
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That is a really good movie and if you have a strong stomach and
imagination you should check out the prequil.. EVIL DEAD series..
Excellent stuff..
-Original Message-
From: Glaman, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02
Office Space
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From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
Clerks was better
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From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent
Wraith w/ Charlie Sheen?
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glaman, Mark
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:00 PM
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Ok how aboutThe Raith very cool movie
-Original Message
Office space reminds me way too much of a place I used to work at.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:11 PM
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Office Space
ok so spelling is not my strong point.. Yep that's the one.. I've been
trying to find it on DVD
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From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
Wraith w/ Charlie Sheen
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ok so spelling is not my strong point.. Yep that's the one.. I've been
trying to find it on DVD
-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Cerification
Yes good, but not Kevin Smith...
-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 4:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
Office Space
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From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Depends what you want to do now doesn't it. I'm an E-mail
Administrator. I have an Exchange server and an iPlanet Mail server. I
should know about Windows 2000, Active Directory, SMTP, Exchange,
iPlanet, Sun, etc. Having an understanding of TCP/IP is nice, but I
don't need to know how to
Multiple, varied, certifications seems to make more sense in terms of
flexible career options.
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From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC
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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Cerification question
Don't invite that speaker again.
Serdar Soysal
-Original Message-
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Cerification question
There is a big sqaubble about the best certification to
the problem is fiting all those letters after your name on your business
card and then having room for something really useful like your e-mail
address and phone number
;-)
bill
Alphabet soup anyone
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From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
If you want to do messaging\AD stuff.get the MS certs.
If you want to do Cisco stuffget the Cisco certs
If you want to do bothget both.
If you are going to go get a job working with AD\Exchange 2ka Cisco
cert won't get you as far as the MS certs (with regards to that stack of
Unpainted brick.
John Allhiser CCNP MCSE
Network Engineer
Generali Reassurance
-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Shiminy. Get a CCIE if you want
Get a refund!
-Original Message-
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC
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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:58 PM
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Subject: Cerification question
There is a big sqaubble about the best certification to get( and this was
being discussed at
Let me rephrase that:
Lets see you've been out of college for 3 months and have your MCSENext
or
Let see you've been out of college for 3 months and have your CCIENext
See the difference..
-Original Message-
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
, 2002 12:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
the problem is fiting all those letters after your name on your business
card and then having room for something really useful like your e-mail
address and phone number
;-)
bill
Alphabet soup anyone
-Original
Shiminy. Get a CCIE if you want the most impressive one. But be
prepared to beat your head upside a few brick walls during the process.
Get an MCSE if you work with MS stuff. Get the simple CCNA if you're
into basic routing.
There really is no best cert out there. Horses for courses and all
Could we rephrase this? How about:
Which went to a braindump or bootcamp got his paper certification
with no real-world experience would you be quickest to lock out of your
server room for fear that he might touch something?
-Original Message-
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC
Kevin,
Do YOU even remember what all those letters stand for anymore? ;0)
Jim Blunt
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From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:23 PM
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Tell me about it.. Look at all
!
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Blunt, James H
(Jim)
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Kevin,
Do YOU even remember what all those letters stand for anymore? ;0)
Jim Blunt
Depends on what you want to be when you grow up.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Smith Thomas
Contr 911 SPTG/SC
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:58 AM
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Subject: Cerification question
There is a big sqaubble
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Don't invite that speaker again.
Serdar Soysal
-Original Message-
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:58
, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Cerification question
Don't invite that speaker again.
Serdar Soysal
-Original Message-
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May
Shiminy. I was with ya until you hired the MCSE instead of me.
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From: Gordon Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:29 PM
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That guy is a knucklehead. The Best Cert
, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
Don't invite that speaker again.
Serdar Soysal
-Original Message-
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01
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They had very little experience, and I asked them what the last book they
read and neither could name a book- would you hire them? But you are right,
I could use some education, no denying that.
-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL
: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
They had very little experience, and I asked them what the last book
they read and neither could name a book- would you hire them? But you
are right, I could use some education, no denying that.
-Original
Thank You!
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
I have yet to pick up an exchange or Cisco Book. Infact I was given my
first exchange book just yesterday
has not sat
through the tests. That person can be the most knowledgeable guy out there.
Serdar Soysal
-Original Message-
From: Gordon Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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That guy
]]On Behalf Of Kevin Miller
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cerification question
I have yet to pick up an exchange or Cisco Book. Infact I was given my
first exchange book just yesterday by a friend. Have not had the time to
read them. Yet I have worked
: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Shiminy. I was with ya until you hired the MCSE instead of me.
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]]
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I have yet to pick up an exchange or Cisco Book. Infact I was given my
first exchange book just yesterday by a friend. Have not had the time to
read them. Yet I have worked with installs as large
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Certs are not a sign of competency. They just mean that the person is
capable of memorizing braindumps. I interviewed MCSEs that answered the
question Explain your NT domain structure in your previous job with an
answer like We had ATM coming to the back
Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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I have yet to pick up an exchange or Cisco Book. Infact I was given my first
exchange book just yesterday by a friend. Have not had the time to read
them. Yet I
Well. There's concrete proof right there.
-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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I admit it myself after going through school for my mcse I really didn't
learn
Subject: RE: Cerification question
I would agree,this comes from someone managing a 10,000 users 6 exchange
server site with no back up and no certs (and no problems). Experience
is where it is at.
-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May
: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:38 PM
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Shiminy. I was with ya until you hired the MCSE instead of me.
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You people talk like you can't have both. Sure there are some paper MCSEs
out there but there are also many MCSEs that have mucho experience. Most
hiring managers, all things being equal will look at experience first
but... then certs. Additionally while experience is the best there are
people
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You people talk like you can't have both. Sure there are some paper
MCSEs out there but there are also many MCSEs that have mucho
experience
Very good points.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:22 PM
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You people talk like you can't have both. Sure there are some paper MCSEs
out
:
e-mail disclaimer http://www.datasynapse.com/legal/emailprivacy.jsp
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From: Romeo, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 17:02
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Subject: RE: Cerification question
I would agree,this comes from someone managing a 10,000
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Subject: RE: Cerification question
You, and others on this list, have for whatever reason been able to get
past this certification ceiling because someone liked your personality,
took a chance on you, and you were able to successfully run with it.
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I saw your haircut, so the answer would be no.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Miller
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:00 PM
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Subject: RE: Cerification question
It is all about having good hair??
--Kevinm
Cool. You should create a course and offer a cert in it...I'd sign up!
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From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Cerification question
No shit. Most of these companies don't know
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e-mail disclaimer http://www.datasynapse.com/legal/emailprivacy.jsp
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From: David Florea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 18:24
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Subject: RE: Cerification question
Cool. You should create a course and offer a cert
I know a couple others already. It could be a technical witches coven.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Florea
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Cerification question
Cool. You should
They had money tellers on the back of their PCs?
Wow.
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From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:55 PM
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Subject: RE: Cerification question
Certs are not a sign of competency. They just mean
I'll take teasers for $200 Alex.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:17 PM
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Subject: RE: Cerification question
Even with studying and knowing the material on the cert exams doesn't
guarantee
Maio de 2002 22:58
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Subject: RE: Cerification question
No backup, wow that's the best setup I've seen, never thought of that!
Mario Fernandez
Network Administrator
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Nope. Haven't taken a single test. Call me lazy.
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From: Martin Tuip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:24 PM
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You are MCSE right?
--
Martin Tuip
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