[FairfieldLife] Did I Wake up in the Wrong Alternative Universe?

2005-05-26 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/25/05 10:31 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings The Bushes are politically astute, and having seen former Calif Gov Brown labeled as Governor Moonbeam

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vasishtha: They who...treat such holy men disrespectfully, surely

2005-05-26 Thread Robert Gimbel
I used to hear, from people around Maharishi, that, the energy was so intense, that they could only take it for about 6 months at a time... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/25/05 3:51 AM, Irmeli Mattsson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did I Wake up in the Wrong Alternative Universe?

2005-05-26 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- Same universe, different time... In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/25/05 10:31 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did I Wake up in the Wrong Alternative Universe?

2005-05-26 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ***snip*** And how is it that we did not succeed?? Why isn't TM as middle class, natural, and extensively accepted as yoga, natural foods and joggong? Do you sometimes feel that you woke up in the wrong

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where are the British here at FFLife?

2005-05-26 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
Comments in between --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comment below: *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marek, That's all very nice as both an esoteric explanation and justification as to why MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where are the British here at FFLife?

2005-05-26 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amma goes days at a time - some say weeks - without sleeping. And it's verifiable because she's in full public view, giving darshan round the clock. *** I don't believe in this. Maybe three or four days one can do it,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles Rishikesh

2005-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 25, 2005, at 7:46 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Paul McCartney said in an interview recently that he is meditating (TM) again regularly, and believe it or not, even Ringo is back to it regularly. Can you provide a source? Otherwise into the Maharishi sleeps only 2-4 hours bin... To

Re: [FairfieldLife] susan segal

2005-05-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- drjmercay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one thing that is often forgotten is that susan segal had a brain tumor. brain tumors often give a person fantastic experiences that may be construed as enlightenment (remember the John Travolta movie?). I am not really sure that her experiences

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 25, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: Much of the impetus behind independent TM teaching comes from making the knowledge available at more affordable prices. But I'm curious how people who've been following the discussions here would handle other aspects of the teaching that

[FairfieldLife] Re: GEORGE GALLOWAY ROCKS ! ! !

2005-05-26 Thread eloigne24
He behaviour earned him the nickname of the member for Bhagdad Central. U. This name was devised by people in the Labour party who objected to the way he challenged current thinking, particularly about the horrendous effect on Iraqui civilians of the sanctions - and the continuous bombing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did I Wake up in the Wrong Alternative Universe?

2005-05-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ***snip*** And how is it that we did not succeed?? Why isn't TM as middle class, natural, and extensively accepted as yoga,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread claudiouk
If all along the cosmic task had been to train 40,000 or so pundits to a high degree of competence within the true tradition surely this would not require a detour lasting 50 years involving householders and Westerners. Had MMY remained in India, been one of the many gurus there that seem to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did I Wake up in the Wrong Alternative Universe?

2005-05-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ***snip*** And how is it that we did not succeed?? Why isn't TM as middle class, natural, and extensively accepted as yoga,

[FairfieldLife] Re: susan segal

2005-05-26 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- drjmercay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one thing that is often forgotten is that susan segal had a brain tumor. brain tumors often give a person fantastic experiences that may be construed as enlightenment

[FairfieldLife] Sleep (was Re: Where are the British?)

2005-05-26 Thread Patrick Gillam
Some say, as I've noted here before, that the purpose of sleep is to give the soul a respite from the prison of the body. (I've encountered the idea in the works of Rudolf Steiner and in the _Conversations with God_ books of Neale Donald Walsch.) If this hypothesis is true, it would make

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles Rishikesh

2005-05-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 25, 2005, at 7:46 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Paul McCartney said in an interview recently that he is meditating (TM) again regularly, and believe it or not, even Ringo is back to it regularly. Can you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Bush- Extremely Brave...

2005-05-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When George W. was speaking at Maharishi University in support of George H.'s 1988 run for the Presidency, he was naively asked by a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Did I Wake up in the Wrong Alternative Universe?

2005-05-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/25/05 10:31 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings The Bushes are politically

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If all along the cosmic task had been to train 40,000 or so pundits to a high degree of competence within the true tradition surely this would not require a detour lasting 50 years involving householders and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Bush- Extremely Brave...

2005-05-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where are the British here at FFLife?

2005-05-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/25/05 6:28 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sincerely yours, Slartbardfast I hope you've created a signature file for the above so you don't have to type it every time. How? Sincerly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where are the British here at FFLife?

2005-05-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/25/05 6:28 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sincerely yours, Slartbardfast I hope you've created a signature file for the above so you don't have to type it every time. ok Sincerely yours,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where are the British here at FFLife?

2005-05-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: night. I feel much better in daily activities the next day. My son when he was in the army in the scout troops, spent a lot of time in the forest. They had often three days battle exercises, during which they were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread markmeredith2002
snip The very real upside of the pundits--even if it ends up being only half of the number stated--the upside is they have the full knowledge of the tradition AND the practices. So it's a good thing that they are learning what they are learning. The karma-kanda aspect of M.'s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles Rishikesh

2005-05-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 25, 2005, at 7:46 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Paul McCartney said in an interview recently that he is meditating (TM) again regularly, and believe it or not, even Ringo is back to it regularly. Can you

[FairfieldLife] Re: GEORGE GALLOWAY ROCKS ! ! !

2005-05-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eloigne24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He behaviour earned him the nickname of the member for Bhagdad Central. U. This name was devised by people in the Labour party who objected to the way he challenged current thinking, particularly about the

[FairfieldLife] Sleep (was Re: Where are the British?)

2005-05-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some say, as I've noted here before, that the purpose of sleep is to give the soul a respite from the prison of the body. (I've encountered the idea in the works of Rudolf Steiner and in the _Conversations with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread Patrick Gillam
On May 25, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: The larger subtext: does knowledge really get lost? Vaj wrote: The very real upside of the pundits--even if it ends up being only half of the number stated--the upside is they have the full knowledge of the tradition AND the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread Llundrub
- Original Message - From: claudiouk To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers If all along the cosmic task had been to train 40,000 or so pundits to a high degree of competence within

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2005, at 8:59 AM, claudiouk wrote: Was there REALLY a need for all this circus act? The money had to come from somewhere, and of course there is a benefit to teaching people to meditate. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2005, at 9:11 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: Now, this I find an interesting observation: a following of 5 million would to any of us in the West seem an incredible number of followers AND a successful movement...but, in India, it would only be about 1/2 of one percent of the Indian

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The very real upside of the pundits--even if it ends up being only half of the number stated--the upside is they have the full knowledge of the tradition AND the practices. So it's a good

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2005, at 9:23 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: Time to wake up -- brahmin pundits, priests and popes, ministers and rabbis, ayatollahs and the like are not going to save the world. They've been around in power positions forever and haven't come close yet. According to the indian

[FairfieldLife] Merv Griffin article

2005-05-26 Thread Patrick Gillam
The New York Times has an article about Merv. No mention of the Maharishi. May 26, 2005 In the Chatting Olympics, Look for Merv Griffin By LOLA OGUNNAIKE It was just days after Merv Griffin had been given a lifetime achievement award at the Daytime Emmys and just days before he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2005, at 9:30 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: So, will these pundits teach a simple, effortless technique of transcending to householders? I thought they just did yagya-type activities. Who knows, I imagine they may hire that out. If you want westerners to keep providing money for

[FairfieldLife] So what's the verdict?

2005-05-26 Thread Llundrub
Does anyone here buy what Maharishi is doing hook, line, and sinker? Anyone? Please stand up against the rock throwers and confirm your faith. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Bush- Extremely Brave...

2005-05-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
Well I thought it was common knowledge, since I recall reading several accounts of his lack of interest in much travel or anything international when younger. And note, I didn't say he never travelled, just not much. It's very possible he went to China. If so, it was most likely the exception,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread Llundrub
Pundits think a highpercentage of their countrymen are untouchable and deserving ofsuffering; if you get them in an honest moment their view ofwesterners isn't much better. These people are going to bring worldpeace?? OK, thank's for the intro. Pundits do more than the yagyas that the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Crusades?

2005-05-26 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 5/25/05 10:34:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mdixon, If you incite political backlash, we'll never talk about a spiritualorganization gone astray ;-) (chuckle - Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John,indeed ;)JohnY John Y I don't incite, I just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 5/26/05 8:03:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If all along the cosmic task had been to train 40,000 or so pundits to a high degree of competence within the true "tradition" surely this would not require a detour lasting 50 years involving

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: GEORGE GALLOWAY ROCKS ! ! !

2005-05-26 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 5/26/05 8:30:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He should be given an honor of some kind for his long time consistency of aims and compassion for the Iraqi people. Who, Saddam? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles Rishikesh

2005-05-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/26/05 12:47 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both Cynthia Lennon (in her book) and Derek Taylor (long-time Beatles employee) were not only supportive of MMY's involvement with the Beatles but were effusive. He had a good effect on them, as he did on most of us. Was Sgt.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles Rishikesh

2005-05-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/26/05 12:48 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly does Jerry do? And what is his attitude towards the Movement? Does he and Debbie still meditate? They still run the travel agency in Santa Monica. Some financial misjudgment prevented their retirement. I think Jerry

Re: [FairfieldLife] So what's the verdict?

2005-05-26 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 5/26/05 9:30:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone here buy what Maharishi is doing hook, line, and sinker? Anyone? Please stand up against the rock throwers and confirm your faith. I buy it! But maybe you should rephrase the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Did I Wake up in the Wrong Alternative Universe?

2005-05-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/26/05 1:00 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we have a california gov, maybe two, an ex president, maybe two (Clinton), maybe the current one, maybe a future one (hillary), and a former VP, almost president, an oscar winning director and actor, assorted senators and reps,

[FairfieldLife] Press release from 5/18 news conference

2005-05-26 Thread Rick Archer
MAHARISHIS NEXT GLOBAL NEWS CONFERENCES: MAY 25 26 His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Maharishis Message to Heads of State ONLY VEDIC WISDOM CAN SAVE THE WORLD FROM DESTRUCTION Peace Governments Are Promoting Balanced Administration in Every Nation through Vedic Technologies of Total

[FairfieldLife] Re: So what's the verdict?

2005-05-26 Thread jim_flanegin
so number one, what is Maharishi doing? regarding the man himself, I have no insight into his intentions or thought process. with regard to his movement, the assessment of their activities have become on the one hand an increasingly abstract intellectual exercise for me. though I've made a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles Rishikesh

2005-05-26 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/26/05 12:47 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both Cynthia Lennon (in her book) and Derek Taylor (long-time Beatles employee) were not only supportive of MMY's involvement with the Beatles but were

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Laura Bush- Extremely Brave...

2005-05-26 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 5/26/05 9:40:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well I thought it was common knowledge, since I recall reading several accounts of his lack of interest in much travel or anything international when younger. And note, I didn't say he never

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles Rishikesh

2005-05-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/26/05 10:33 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/26/05 12:47 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both Cynthia Lennon (in her book) and Derek Taylor (long-time Beatles employee) were not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread Patrick Gillam
Vaj wrote: On May 26, 2005, at 9:30 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: So, will these pundits teach a simple, effortless technique of transcending to householders? I thought they just did yagya-type activities. Who knows, I imagine they may hire that out. If you want westerners to keep

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep

2005-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2005, at 11:27 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: Now that would indeed be an interesting study. Forget about research on brain waves. Follow behind some gurus or Buddhist monks and look for clues as to their lives being any different from anyone else's. I'm pretty sure this has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Ideas for independent teachers; Now PUNDITS

2005-05-26 Thread Llundrub
Whats your opinion as to how successful pundits are in the Suppressionand Magnetization arenas? Any specific examples out there in the realworlds of business, politics, bollywood in which paid pundits producedthe desired results? of course, analyzing the effects of yagyas ishard to do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: Do you think? If anglo Patrick Gillam promotes himself as a meditation teacher, will he seem as credible as Rajiv Sudarshan? The charismatic pandit is the central guru figure--westerners are still the actual teachers at the point-of-sale.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep

2005-05-26 Thread Patrick Gillam
Patrick Gillam wrote: Forget about research on brain waves. Follow behind some gurus or Buddhist monks and look for clues as to their lives being any different from anyone else's. Vaj wrote: I'm pretty sure this has already been done and is continuing. How does one research the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep

2005-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2005, at 12:48 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: How does one research the literature on meditation and studies of human development? When I was in grad school in the 1980s, the library had a PsychLit database I used to find abstracts of research. I'm talking about something concise

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep

2005-05-26 Thread Patrick Gillam
Vaj wrote: Know the buzzwords I guess and the specialties and their journals. But where do you do the search? Medline? Other proprietary databases? - PJG To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep

2005-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2005, at 1:05 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: But where do you do the search? Medline? Other proprietary databases? Medline for published material. UMI for theses, etc. Not all obscure journals are on Medline (i.e. Indian, Chinese, Japenese). It's also worth while checking journals for

[FairfieldLife] Re: So what's the verdict?

2005-05-26 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone here buy what Maharishi is doing hook, line, and sinker? Anyone? Please stand up against the rock throwers and confirm your faith. Well if I knew what he was doingLets just say that I believe 100% in his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what's the verdict?

2005-05-26 Thread Llundrub
Maharishi is not the only one making a fool out of himself in an attempt to turn human life in the direction of Self Knowledge, and he is certainly not the only one ridiculed for it. But if we think that the success or validity of these efforts depends on whether or not they appear to be

[FairfieldLife] Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread Llundrub
Where does this notion come from? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2005, at 2:14 PM, Llundrub wrote: Where does this notion come from? Christianity mainly. It was a marketing ploy to appeal to the sentimentality of Judeo-Christians don't ya think?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saddam lookalike

2005-05-26 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/05 8:30:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He should be given an honor of some kind for his long time consistency of aims and compassion for the Iraqi people. Who,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread Zdravko Baselli
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does this notion come from? It comes from Divine Inteligence. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread Vaj
On May 26, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Zdravko Baselli wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does this notion come from? It comes from Divine Inteligence. Oh yeah, she did a couple of cult movies. ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread jim_flanegin
not really, I think it is the expressed reality of how Maharishi sees the world and lives his life. However the path to that reality has been muddied up by its translation into action by his movement, there not being much apparent connection between that reality of heaven on earth and the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread Zdravko Baselli
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 26, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Zdravko Baselli wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does this notion come from? It comes from Divine Inteligence. Oh yeah, she did a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saddam lookalike

2005-05-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/26/05 8:30:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He should be given an honor of some kind for his long time consistency of aims

Re: [FairfieldLife] Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread Llundrub
Christianity mainly. It was a marketing ploy to appeal to the sentimentality of Judeo-Christians don't ya think? I don't know. I'm just wondering how it came to invade the TMO and what its purpose is. I mean, where did Maharishi get the notion, and so on. To subscribe, send a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread Llundrub
Not sure he'll get the tantric connection. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth On May 26, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Zdravko Baselli wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread Zdravko Baselli
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christianity mainly. It was a marketing ploy to appeal to the sentimentality of Judeo-Christians don't ya think? I don't know. I'm just wondering how it came to invade the TMO and what its purpose is. I mean,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread Llundrub
Divine Inteligence is the Source, Course and Goal of the whole Universe. So is heaven on earth the source, course, goal, all three, or a mixture of two, or none, or what? ;-)To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep

2005-05-26 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irmeli Mattsson wrote: Personally I have gone through many kinds of transformations, but I need as much sleep as before. The quality of sleeping has changed however. There is very little dreaming, at least I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread Llundrub
He got it from where it came, from Divine Inteligence.Is that the same place from where he got his dhoti? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread Zdravko Baselli
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Divine Inteligence is the Source, Course and Goal of the whole Universe. So is heaven on earth the source, course, goal, all three, or a mixture of two, or none, or what? Knowledge is different in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread tazarmfune
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He got it from where it came, from Divine Inteligence. Is that the same place from where he got his dhoti? No. He gets them from Dhotis R Us. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep

2005-05-26 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irmeli Mattsson wrote: unconsciousness of deep sleep. I have got a genetically inherited progressive muscular disease. My physical

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread Llundrub
He got it from where it came, from Divine Inteligence. Is that the same place from where he got his dhoti?No. He gets them from Dhotis R Us.---So he gets the notion of Heaven on Earth from some retail outlet of ideas? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] After death

2005-05-26 Thread Llundrub
Yes. - Original Message - From: Jeff Fischer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 2:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] After death What happens to the individual when he drops his body after attaining enlightenment? One unbounded ocean of consciousness in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep

2005-05-26 Thread lupidus108
HH the Dalai Lama has done close to a dozen conferences with leaders in many fields, Dalai Lama is only a politician MMY, Boppard, Germany, 1982 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread Zdravko Baselli
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---So he gets the notion of Heaven on Earth from some retail outlet of ideas? Bring your mind to the Home of all knowledge, and then you shall know. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: susan segal

2005-05-26 Thread shanti2218411
-- Susan Segal's expereinces of no self etc began at least 10-12 yrs before she was dx with brain ca.In addition there are other autobiograhical accounts which support the profound difficulties which can be associated with the development of radical changes in the expereince of conciousness eg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not really, I think it is the expressed reality of how Maharishi sees the world and lives his life. And you, Vaj and Rudra Joe know the reality of Maharishis worldview ? Hahahaha To subscribe, send a message to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saddam lookalike

2005-05-26 Thread lupidus108
The fellow in prison, photographed in his nickers, is a lookalike to Saddam Hussein who was killed in the first air strike against Baghdad as a result of rare, accurate information from the CIA on the first day of this illegal and tragic war. For more information on this,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saddam lookalike

2005-05-26 Thread lupidus108
The fellow in prison, photographed in his nickers, is a lookalike to Saddam Hussein who was killed in the first airstrike against Bhagdad as a result of rare, accurate information from the CIA on the first day of this illegal and tragic war. For more information on this, The Christ,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth

2005-05-26 Thread jim_flanegin
huh? he's probably in BC. you? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not really, I think it is the expressed reality of how Maharishi sees the world and lives his life.

[FairfieldLife] Re: After death

2005-05-26 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happens to the individual when he drops his body after attaining enlightenment? There is freedom. Freedom to go anywhere in the universe. Some few choose to remain here in this sphere to teach and help. 6

[FairfieldLife] Re: After death

2005-05-26 Thread Jeff Fischer
Horrible though it might be, I don't believe the correct attitude is to ignore one's brothers who are still trapped in it. If you made it out of a dark tunnel where you knew others were trapped, could you live with yourself if you didn't go back and try to save them too? --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: After death

2005-05-26 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Sage Narada came to earth representing the celestials. He visited a quiet grove where a man sat in meditation. Narada gained the meditators attention and asked 'you have meditated for man years. I wish to confer a boon on you. What would you have as this boon?' The man replied that he would

[FairfieldLife] Re: So what's the verdict?

2005-05-26 Thread marekreavis
Rick, agreed. Excellent and well said. Yaaay! Boxcar Willie ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone here buy what Maharishi is doing hook, line, and sinker? Anyone? Please

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saddam lookalike

2005-05-26 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 5/26/05 2:13:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jesus Christ! In the name of all that is holy, do youever doubt for one minute anything at all on thiswebsite? Why do you give a website such credence? Geeez Dr. Pete, they couldn't say it on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If all along the cosmic task had been to train 40,000 or so pundits to a high degree of competence within the true tradition surely this would not require a detour lasting 50 years involving householders and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ideas for independent teachers

2005-05-26 Thread Jeff Fischer
I read your Geocities link. So if things improve that's good, uhh or if they improve, that's bad, or if leaders lead well that's good or uhh if they lead too well, too fast , that's bad. Kinda sounds like a Superman comic I once read called Bizzarro World. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Saddam lookalike

2005-05-26 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who, Saddam? The fellow in prison, photographed in his nickers, is a lookalike to Saddam Hussein who was killed in the first airstrike... -I don't see the Saddam article, where is it again? Be careful what

[FairfieldLife] Re: After death

2005-05-26 Thread bbrigante
Vasistha said to Rama: O Rama, this is not the time to rest! Get up and bring joy to the world. When people are still in bondage, it is not proper for the yogi to merge in the self. (p. 486, http://tinyurl.com/6xndt ) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles Rishikesh

2005-05-26 Thread George DeForest
. believe it or not, even Ringo is back to it regularly. Vaj wrote: Can you provide a source? Otherwise into the Maharishi sleeps only 2-4 hours bin... vaj, its true...reported by Ringo himself in this interview in SAGA magazine last fall: http://www.ringostarr.com/news/saga_nov04.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: So what's the verdict?

2005-05-26 Thread claudiouk
If we are dealing with a little old boxcar slice of reality then how pathetic of these liberated untold numbers of whatever you want to call them, that they are either blatently INCAPABLE of, or worse, can't be BOTHERED enough, to come and end the SUFFERING in this little boxcar once and for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Saddam lookalike

2005-05-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fellow in prison, photographed in his nickers, is a lookalike to Saddam Hussein who was killed in the first air strike against Baghdad as a result of rare, accurate information from the CIA on the first day of this illegal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Beatles Rishikesh

2005-05-26 Thread George DeForest
. Paul McCartney said in an interview recently that he is meditating (TM) again regularly, Vaj wrote: Can you provide a source? Otherwise into the Maharishi sleeps only 2-4 hours bin... this is also true, vaj as reported by an Irish website: http://www.tm-ireland.org/news.htm Paul

Re: [FairfieldLife] After death

2005-05-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happens to the individual when he drops his body after attaining enlightenment? One unbounded ocean of consciousness in motion? Nothing can happen to an enlightened individual after dropping the body because there is no individual for anything

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