Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: 'Moron' Bush Beat Kerry at Yale

2005-06-09 Thread Sal Sunshine
The whole thing could easily have been scripted. On Jun 8, 2005, at 10:50 PM, sparaig wrote: It showed him sipping from a plastic cup full of clear liquid while blasting the bride and groom for being strange and doing wierd, outlandish things like never drinking alcohol, and going jogging

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sem victim's family has an attorney

2005-06-09 Thread Sal Sunshine
OR that MUM was so desperate for students that they simply let him in. Sal On Jun 8, 2005, at 9:15 PM, m2smart4u2000 wrote: You know that when you are interviewed to start TM, one of the questions is regarding any treatment by psychiatrists. If you are being treated regularly, then you

[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO is a spiritual Enron - was A question for Brigante

2005-06-09 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I checked it up in Norway. TMO has no Trademark on Transcendental Meditation - and will not have it in the Future, because Transcendental is a description of a state of consciousness and is universal. I do not know

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Thursday - Meditation

2005-06-09 Thread bert . carson
Title: Template June 09, 2005 - Meditation Meditation is for many a foreign concept, somehow distant and foreboding, seemingly impossible to participate in. But another word for meditation is

Re: [FairfieldLife] [was Re: Giggles] Domash

2005-06-09 Thread Robert Gimbel
I worked with Larry briefly during the physics conference, with Maharishi, and Brian Josephson, and the "Tao of Physics" guy, in 1975. Larry seemed too much like a regular guy to be involved with the politics, that took over the university, at the time Bevan, and others entered the picture.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Medicated Baby Boomer Ru's

2005-06-09 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: genetics are the inherited physical expression of past lives, and correlated with the family we incarnate into. Now that's precision! Yes. But I'm talking about 2 separate lines: body (genetic entity) and spirit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/8/05 11:45 PM, mathatbrahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if the enlightened person says that in order to justify his behavior, then fine. Nobody will mind if his body spends some time in jail. Nice. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: No teachings of Guru Dev (formerly: Question for...)

2005-06-09 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Jim, that's not the problem, inclusion of colour photographs would not be a stumbling block. It's just that the Guru Dev book is to be a serious look at the guru and his teachings and it is difficult to see a place in it for photos taken on Himalayan jaunts. Before I put the snaps away, here is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread claudiouk
The Ego, Freud said, is primarily a bodily ego. After enlightenment the body is still there and other people's bodies are still not one's own.. in the relative the same rules still apply. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: No teachings of Guru Dev (formerly: Question for...)

2005-06-09 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Thank you to those who have supported my research into Guru Dev's life and teachings. As I am framing another visit to India this year, if anyone has any useful contacts or hot tips, please let me know. Any useful information about Guru Dev or/and illustrations would be greatly appeciated. on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Ego, Freud said, is primarily a bodily ego. After enlightenment the body is still there and other people's bodies are still not one's own.. in the relative the same rules still apply. Ego arises out of identification. Consciousness identifies

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: volunteer weekend at Livingston manor

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
Oh you are so bad Bob! --- bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/8/05 11:53 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got off the phone with Bevan's evil twin, Who's that? *

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An unenlightened person looks at an enlightened person and they appear to have desires. They talk, they move, they eat food, they do this and that, they prefer one thing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: volunteer weekend at livingston manor

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:16:30 AM PDT From: NYC Maharishi Vedic School [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: volunteer weekend at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/8/05 11:45 PM, mathatbrahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Interesting theory, but the facts yell out re: MMY ...he has I, I, I...written all over him. Still, he's Enlightened. (at least many believe. I believe he is). Take Adi Da

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- mathatbrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Interesting theory, but the facts yell out re: MMY ...he has I, I, I...written all over him. Still, he's Enlightened. (at least many believe. I believe he is). Of course MMY is enlightened. You see I written all over him. That is an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Vaj
Matrixmonitor: First of all, it depends on how you define enlightenment. Secondly, at a certain stage many yogis will determine which karmas they want to maintain and which ones they want to eliminate. For example I may want to retain positive karmas right up to the dissolution of my physical

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Vaj
Keep in mind there is a difference between the yogic conception of ego and the Freudian ego. SIgnificantly, some believe the ego isn't real. Many (if not most) psycho-therapists subscribe to the illusion that the Freudian ego is a real entity. On Jun 9, 2005, at 5:35 AM, claudiouk wrote: The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The I actually does not exist. But it appears to exist in waking state ... What drives the behavior/thought/feeling of the enlightened is what drives everything phenomenal... This is actually driving people in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Medicated Baby Boomer Ru's

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
-Celibacy is also OCD.I guess so, wouldn't know. I never understood why anyone would go that route. Have you tried it?2 years when I was on purusha. When even trees and animals started looking sexy I was honest with myself and decided to go. To subscribe, send a message to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if the enlightened person says that in order to justify his behavior, then fine. Only somebody in waking state with an ego would justify behavior by claiming

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie's Chakras

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
As a chef I have trained many people. Many of them have eatennothing but turkey necks their whole lives. Not a single negativethought ever arose in them about turkey necks either.I don't get it ? I was talking about negitive thoughts arising in mymind ... took about 2 days to notice

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: 'Moron' Bush Beat Kerry at Yale

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Jokes are mainly memorized and repeated. That's why everybody loves them. No arguing. People laugh. You come across as in control, and full of native wit. But all one has to do is speak their lines, and the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if the enlightened person says that in order to justify his behavior, then fine. Only somebody in waking

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The I actually does not exist. But it appears to exist in waking state ... What drives the behavior/thought/feeling of the enlightened is what drives everything

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: volunteer weekend at livingston manor

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
Just got off the phone with Bevan's evil twin, who suggested that all the talk about the 200 pundits coming to Vedic City are just to get people thinking about the number 200, then the ole switcheroo will bring in the 200 gents on Purusha to the trailer park...---They are pundits, no?

[FairfieldLife] MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread gerbal88
--- In Message 1935 of 2016 at [EMAIL PROTECTED], Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev. [...] ...And I was never interested who was given what mantra. I was interested in myself. [laughter and giggling]... [...] ... Out of that fullness I

[FairfieldLife] Moron Bush beat..... (was 'Moron' Bush Beat Kerry at Yale)

2005-06-09 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jokes are mainly memorized and repeated. That's why everybody loves them. No arguing. People laugh. You come across as in control, and full of

[FairfieldLife] The Economist reports on Cold Fusion

2005-06-09 Thread Vaj
Physicists who meddle with cold fusion, like psychologists who dabble in the paranormal, are likely to be labelled quacks by their peers. This is due to an infamous incident in 1989 when Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann held a press conference to announce their discovery of nuclear fusion in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
Not that I know anything, but one previously used to interpret all their desires as coming from their own ego, but later one sees desires arising themselves from the universal. This is the difference. Previously desires were for limited and localized reasons but later the desires are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie's Chakras

2005-06-09 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a chef I have trained many people. Many of them have eaten nothing but turkey necks their whole lives. Not a single negative thought ever arose in them about turkey necks either. I don't get it ? I was talking

Re: [FairfieldLife] Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
I had a talk with Venerable Ontul Rinpoche where he discussed the 9 yanas or vehicles of Buddhism. What was interesting to me and seemed to point to me as regards certain memories of mine was that people may become enlightened from a self guided path (and they are called

Re: [FairfieldLife] Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Vaj
If your meditation is merely relaxing in the stillness of mind, you will not get beyond being side-tracked in the samadhi of the gods. Such a meditation will not be able to overcome your attachment or anger. It will not be able to put a stop to the flow of karmic formations. Nor will it be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie's Chakras

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
Roger! got it now ... it (around the healer) wasn't the same as theMIU/rounding/etc atmosphere. but I get your point.JohnY --I used to question why I had worked at 37 jobs in the last fifteen years. Then when I took Bodhisattva vows I realized that I had somewhere decided to make

Re: [FairfieldLife] Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
- Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Desires and Enlightenment "If your meditation is merely relaxing in the stillness of mind, you will not get beyond being side-tracked in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your meditation is merely relaxing in the stillness of mind, you will not get beyond being side-tracked in the samadhi of the gods. Such a meditation will not be able to overcome your attachment or anger. It will not be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Medicated Baby Boomer Ru's

2005-06-09 Thread marekreavis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **SNIP** if anyone has had any experience and/or results from the OTC supplement, 5-HTP? It is the immediate precursor to the neurotransmitter, Serotonin, which the lack of availability at the synaptic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Vaj
On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Llundrub wrote: This is my experience. TM and action is great for those with few personality issues, but doesn't much change someone after the novelty of TM wears off. Then more formal mind training is still needed.   I think the TM Marga would work if someone was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Vaj
On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Rick wrote: Are you saying that this directly addresses Transcendental Meditation? All forms of meditation which work at transcending thought, not just TM©. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread marekreavis
Said very well. Thanks. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In Message 1935 of 2016 at [EMAIL PROTECTED], Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev. [...] ...And I was never interested who was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Medicated Baby Boomer Ru's

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
You should look into Mucuna pruriens, which is a natural form of L. Dopamine which is a serotonin precursor. http://www.rain-tree.com/velvetbean.htm http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0Board=GardenNumber=2752717Searchpage=1Main=2727398Words=l.dopatopic=Search=true#Post2752717

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie's Chakras

2005-06-09 Thread marekreavis
Comment (and thanks) below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **SNIP** --I used to question why I had worked at 37 jobs in the last fifteen years. Then when I took Bodhisattva vows I realized that I had somewhere decided to make the connection with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Medicated Baby Boomer Ru's

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: genetics are the inherited physical expression of past lives, and correlated with the family we incarnate into. Now that's precision!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An unenlightened person looks at an enlightened person and they appear to have desires.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Rick wrote: Are you saying that this directly addresses Transcendental Meditation? All forms of meditation which work at transcending thought, not just TM©. I agree, forms of meditation

[FairfieldLife] Re: No teachings of Guru Dev (formerly: Question for...)

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, that's not the problem, inclusion of colour photographs would not be a stumbling block. It's just that the Guru Dev book is to be a serious look at the guru and his teachings and it is difficult to see

[FairfieldLife] Re: No teachings of Guru Dev (formerly: Question for...)

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
Thanks for this Paul, what a treasure trove you are amassing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you to those who have supported my research into Guru Dev's life and teachings. As I am framing another visit to India this year, if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Medicated Baby Boomer Ru's

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Celibacy is also OCD. I guess so, wouldn't know. I never understood why anyone would go that route. Have you tried it? 2 years when I was on purusha. When even trees and animals started looking

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Economist reports on Cold Fusion

2005-06-09 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Physicists who meddle with cold fusion, like psychologists who dabble in the paranormal, are likely to be labelled quacks by their peers.. Desk-top fusion may be possible after all, according to an article published in

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't it have been great to have met Guru Dev, to have been his disciple. But I think, with respect to the material you have posted, it would be even greater to be a disciple of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moron Bush beat..... (was 'Moron' Bush Beat Kerry at Yale)

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jokes are mainly memorized and repeated. That's why everybody loves

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your meditation is merely relaxing in the stillness of mind, you will not get beyond being side-tracked in the samadhi of the gods. Such a meditation will not be able to overcome your attachment or anger. It will not be

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread marekreavis
Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't it have been great to have met Guru Dev, to have been his disciple. But I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
a fun experiment to try: close your eyes, and one by one eliminate the motion of the mind; no projection right, left, up, down, backwards, forwards. Just bring it to a quiet stop, no thought. Allow the senses to continue to operate, just don't interact with their objects. Then, where is I? no

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And/Or, you could do puja to Guru Dev. Marek that sounds great! I never learned how, but it sounds really nice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sem victim's family has an attorney

2005-06-09 Thread anonymousff
I have personally spoken with members of the Admissions Office at MUM who interacted with Sem before he became a student. His insanity was not at all obvious at that time. My speculation is that, after stopping his meds, the deterioration in his mental state was cumulative, so it was possible

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Rick wrote: Are you saying that this directly addresses Transcendental Meditation? All forms of meditation which work at transcending thought,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- marekreavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't it have been great to have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sem victim's family has an attorney

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have personally spoken with members of the Admissions Office at MUM who interacted with Sem before he became a student. His insanity was not at all obvious at that time. My speculation is that, after stopping his meds, the deterioration in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Llundrub wrote: This is my experience. TM and action is great for those with few personality issues, but doesn't much change someone after the novelty of TM wears off. Then more formal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Medicated Baby Boomer Ru's

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Celibacy is also OCD. I guess so, wouldn't know. I never understood why anyone would go that route. Have you tried it? 2 years when I was on

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread marekreavis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **SNIP** Before you meditate imagine Guru Dev and bow to him. Imagine MMY and bow to him. Imagine every single spiritual teacher that you have learned anything from and bow to them. Imagine the entirity of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sem victim's family has an attorney

2005-06-09 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm biased here having worked with many schizophrenics. It is possible that the schizophrenia was in remission, but if you interact for any amount of time even with someone with schizophrenia in remission,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a fun experiment to try: close your eyes, and one by one eliminate the motion of the mind; no projection right, left, up, down, backwards, forwards. Just bring it to a quiet stop, no thought. Allow the senses to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Medicated Baby Boomer Ru's

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was on Purusha when it first started. We moved to MIU and during the springtime I was assigned to go around and work on thermostats in all the dorms and pods. One fine Spring day I turned the corner around a pod

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Dear Peter, You have done such a good job of explaining this I no I thing frontwards, backwards, sideways and inside out. Even though many are not experiencing this state of mind or no mind right now, I think that with a little quiet

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Vaj
On Jun 9, 2005, at 1:14 PM, Rick wrote: There may be a place where vasanas are obliterated but unless they are no longer attractive then the obliteration is only temporary. One would have to repeat the same cause that created he vasana and then seal it--otherwise it will not recur. To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Medicated Baby Boomer Ru's

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was on Purusha when it first started. We moved to MIU and during the springtime I was assigned to go around and work on thermostats in all the dorms and pods.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. Set up some place in your home where you meditate and fill it with the pictures of those saints and heroes in your life who inspire you. Surround yourself with the arrows in your life that point you towards

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 9, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Rick wrote: Are you saying that this directly addresses

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a lot better just to not think about it, well there's a discussion stopper. It just makes me feel sorry for all those great minds over the centuries that spent their entire lives trying to express abstract spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Medicated Baby Boomer Ru's

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even now I still laugh about it. It was like getting hit by a nuclear lust bomb. I just exploded with lust. Pure lust roaring through every cell in my body. Aching screaming lust. I just wanted to

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
http://www.paulmason.info/x/MMYonGD.mp3 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the key word is work; forms of meditation that work at transcending thought by their very nature bind one to thought. aspirin, please. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie's Chakras

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
I loved the rudraksha story. I have a 20+mm rudraksha kantha from Neeta and I wear that along with a 13mm crystal mala all the time. Not infrequently, when I'm in court I'll get up and walk around while I'm arguing or asking questions and I'll notice these puzzled looks on the faces of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Vaj
Work in the context I used it was meant to be to accomplish, achieve; to cause, produce NOT To produce or cause by continued application of physical [or mental] force. Why was that not obvious? Am I being unclear? If so, I apologize. Therefore achieve transcendence of thought would be a way

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
I agree, forms of meditation that work at transcending thought by their very nature bind one to thought.Honestly, I never understood the transcending thought thing. Since the beginning for me there has been consciousness, thought and mantra all at the same time. The mantra has never

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moron Bush beat..... (was 'Moron' Bush Beat Kerry at Yale)

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
it is fun to laugh at him; keeps us off balance. Why do you think the democrats are such a weak mess right now?-Fuck Democrats. Fuck Republicans. It's all over for the US. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
And/Or, you could do puja to Guru Dev.Marek---And/or you could do a puja to Shiva. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) Is it possible that, the experience of there being no I to intend or not to intend is based on the recognition that ego as has always been identified with as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
Oh thanks. We'll see. Turns out it wouldn't be for another 4-6 weeks. They're just building the place now. Not sure I really care to be honest. They didn't know what the hell they were doing and I'm not sure they would understand the process if someone who knew came to work for them. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, forms of meditation that work at transcending thought by their very nature bind one to thought. Honestly, I never understood the transcending thought thing. Since the beginning for me there has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 9, 2005, at 1:14 PM, Rick wrote: There may be a place where vasanas are obliterated but unless they are no longer attractive then the obliteration is only temporary. One would have to repeat the same cause that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course it could be just my fear of an I disappearing, yeah it is. No big deal. When I do a stillness of the mind meditation, sometimes my heart goes nuts briefly at first, silly panic and distress, ha-ha!!. Just the stupid

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
I have this figured out for myself. Maybe this will help you who haven't or maybe not. Thoughts arise. They arise from different places. In the body. Different places in space. If one is broad then when thoughts move one can act to satisfy them. One is then working for the cosmos. What

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Medicated Baby Boomer Ru's

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
lay three beautiful topless MIU girls sunning themselves in a little alcove. Oh my God! Trishakti? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your

Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread Bhairitu
gerbal88 wrote: --- In Message 1935 of 2016 at [EMAIL PROTECTED], Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev. [...] ...And I was never interested who was given what mantra. I was interested in myself. [laughter and giggling]... [...] ... Out of that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Wake Me...When Kali-Yuga's Over...

2005-06-09 Thread Bhairitu
And of course some folks believe the Age of Aquarius is here already though it won't be for about another 300 years. gullible fool wrote: I wouldn't give up yet, Robert. Sat Yuga is not supposed to be here until Guru Purnimah. Give it another five weeks. --- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Making vaasanaas to disappear??

2005-06-09 Thread cardemaister
Yoga-kuNDalyupaniSat is a yoga-upanishad. It's number 86 of the 108 well-known upanishads, belonging to kRSNa-yajur-veda. It starts like this: (yogakuNDalyupanishhadyogasiddhihR^idaasanam.h . nirvisheshhabrahmatattva.n svamaatramiti chintaye .. AUM saha naavavatu saha nau bhunaktu saha viirya.n

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Robert Gimbel
too silly!jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course it could be just my fear of an "I" disappearing, yeah it is. No big deal. When I do a stillness of the mind meditation, sometimes my heart goes nuts briefly at first,

[FairfieldLife] 'Ego/Cosmic Consciousness/God Consciousness...'

2005-06-09 Thread Robert Gimbel
When we get over the fear of losing self, small self, ego, and start experiencing pure consciousness more clearly, then we get into CC. Then, we start to experience that the pure consciousness, has movement to it, within itself, self-referral as Maharishi says ... Well, we start to find this

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ego/Cosmic Consciousness/God Consciousness...'

2005-06-09 Thread anonymousff
Robt Gimbel wrote: I guess that is the trick For me, the trick is not to try so hard, not to manipulate. These things will take care of themselves in due time. Otherwise, it seems such a joke - the ego trying to stop the ego from interfering - why should it participate in its own annihilation?

[FairfieldLife] Life in Fairfield, What An Experience! -- What Are You Experiencing?

2005-06-09 Thread Dharma Mitra
An easy request of our Fairfield residents and campus participants: What's life like at MUM and how have you experienced being enrolled with or dealing with the University? Dharma Mitra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Helping you Say It With Panache! - Copywriting - Editing - Publishing - Publicity -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread anonymousff
It's interesting how each point of view has an explanation for how the other is entirely wrong. Vaj's pov states that techniques that transcend thought are of limited value. Maharishi's pov as expressed in the sci lesson on consideration of other systems was that: Any system that transcends

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ego/Cosmic Consciousness/God Consciousness...'

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
Ramana makes the same point in a funny way. He says working with the ego is like asking the thief that broke into your house to look for the thief that broke into your house. --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robt Gimbel wrote: I guess that is the trick For me, the trick is not to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Medicated Baby Boomer Ru's

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lay three beautiful topless MIU girls sunning themselves in a little alcove. Oh my God! Trishakti? must have been! __ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and

Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
I gave up on the Movement in 1985 when I was charged $185 for what turned out to be an intro lecture on Ayurveda I could have given myself. I have spent the last 5 years with a tantric guru who only recently authorized me to teach yogic meditation. This is a technique that can be traced

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ego/Cosmic Consciousness/God Consciousness...'

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub
For me, the "trick" is not to try so hard, not to manipulate. These things will take care of themselves in due time. Otherwise, it seems such a joke - the ego trying to stop the ego from interfering - why should it participate in its own annihilation? -If you can show me an ego I can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment

2005-06-09 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Work in the context I used it was meant to be to accomplish, achieve; to cause, produce NOT To produce or cause by continued application of physical [or mental] force. Why was that not obvious? Am I being unclear? If so,

[FairfieldLife] LLundrub would have done it.

2005-06-09 Thread Rick
I was watching TV the other night and a guy was holding a poison arrow frog in his hand explaining how the natives would rub their arrow tips on the frogs toxic skin to make them more effective in bringing the prey down. He then said that the chemicals on the skin, when licked, had a mild

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