[FairfieldLife] Re: The pundit compound on campus... the *disappeared*

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: snip someone like Spairegg who does not meditate Where did you get the idea that Sparaig doesn't meditate? From Barry, perhaps? As I

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Name a single incident where they actually fired a weapon rather than locked their radar on. Oh, gee, Lawson, they fired at the planes all the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson's foresight proven once more

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turq, this is extremely wonderful, brilliant. In natural law, God blesses in democracy those bills of rights. On Jefferson's tomb at Monticello in the inscription, it mentions that he was most proud of his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquoiseB writes snipped: Everyone I've ever met who seemed to be enlightened or seemed close to it was, above all, comfortable being themselves. Some people think that this is an

[FairfieldLife] Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread cardemaister
Yoga-suutra mentions several stages of samaadhi. The main distinction seems to be sabiija- vs. nirbiija-samaadhi. The highest stage is, I guess, dharma-megha-samaadhi. I wonder what stage typically(?) is the one mentioned in Vibhuuti-paada (third book). It's hardly nirbiija, because of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bollywood Film Recomendation

2007-01-05 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lagaan: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/lagaan/ Check it out. You'll love it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagaan I agree. Especially if you haven't been acquainted with Bollywood movies, this is one of the best

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bollywood Film Recomendation

2007-01-05 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another movie which maybe a good start is Dil Se http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dil_Se, the director Mani Ratnam, manages to make a good compromise between artistic and commercial films. And before I forget: Main actress

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yoga-suutra mentions several stages of samaadhi. The main distinction seems to be sabiija- vs. nirbiija-samaadhi. The highest stage is, I guess, dharma-megha-samaadhi. I wonder what stage typically(?) is the one

[FairfieldLife] Don't have a cow, man...sacrifice one (was Re: Aishwarya Rai's Eyes?)

2007-01-05 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Sacrifice gains spiritual favor and ascendancy in divinity. The Ribhus gained immortality through their zealous sacrificing (Rig 1.110.4).

[FairfieldLife] Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
TorquoiseB writes snipped: It seems to me that being uncomfortable with oneself spiritually seems to go hand-in-hand with the tendency to become a spiritual fascist. The more rules one imposes on onesself, the more you feel comfortable imposing on others. The less tolerant you are of your own

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB writes snipped: It seems to me that being uncomfortable with oneself spiritually seems to go hand-in-hand with the tendency to become a spiritual fascist. The more rules one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Yoga-suutra mentions several stages of samaadhi. The main distinction seems to be sabiija- vs. nirbiija-samaadhi. The highest stage is, I guess,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread Vaj
On Jan 5, 2007, at 5:28 AM, cardemaister wrote: Yoga-suutra mentions several stages of samaadhi. The main distinction seems to be sabiija- vs. nirbiija-samaadhi. The highest stage is, I guess, dharma-megha-samaadhi. I wonder what stage typically(?) is the one mentioned in Vibhuuti-paada

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Yoga-suutra mentions several stages of samaadhi. The main distinction seems

[FairfieldLife] Shaakya?

2007-01-05 Thread cardemaister
Was Gautama Shaakyamuni a Shaka (HK = zaka): (Only recently I learned that he was not shakyamuni, but shaakyamuni, which, in this case, makes a huge difference, I believe...) zaka3 m. pl. N. of a partic. whiteskinned tribe or race of people (in the legends which relate the contests between

Re: [FairfieldLife] Shaakya?

2007-01-05 Thread Vaj
Yep, a descendent of the Nepalese Shakya clan. Subsequent and previous Buddhas were however from completely different clans. As we speak different Himalayan yogins are consciously incarnating into the west. The first acknowledged was to a Spanish Buddhist couple, but even a Native American

[FairfieldLife] Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
TorquiseB wrties snipped: They also assume that states of consciousness will continue to change and fluctuate, even after enlightenment is stable. One day you'll be experiencing stage one samadhi, and next something else. Your state of consciousness will continue to fluctuate as long as you have a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The pundit compound on campus... the *disappeared*

2007-01-05 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: snip someone like Spairegg who does not meditate Where did you get the idea that Sparaig

Re: [FairfieldLife] The pundit compound on campus... the *disappeared*

2007-01-05 Thread Peter
snip Feste37, whoever you are, I appreciate that you are still around FFL defending the *faith* as best you can. I understand you are quite a babe. But tell us your thoughts really. Now, what do you think about the disappeared ? The *disappeared*. You know, all those TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip Name a single incident where they actually fired a weapon rather than locked their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip these folks have been in the mindset of believing that there is something essentially WRONG with them for so long that they get angry when someone suggests that there is nothing wrong with them, and that they might

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The pundit compound on campus... the *disappeared*

2007-01-05 Thread Peter
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip someone like Spairegg who does not meditate Where did you get the idea that Sparaig doesn't meditate? From Barry, perhaps? As I understand it, he does

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip One of the things that has come out of the 12 step journey, for me, is the understanding that most of the time whatever the purported other accuse me of doing or having or whatever the issue,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The pundit compound on campus... the *disappeared*

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: snip someone like Spairegg who does not meditate Where did you get the idea that Sparaig

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meher Baba's Gift of Intuition

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Janet Luise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Two of the co-authors would be know to at least some of you. Tom Hickey was a philosophy professor at MIU in the early 80's Kendra Crossen Burroughs is Jonathan's wife I know Kendra in a completely different

[FairfieldLife] Re: The pundit compound on campus... the *disappeared*

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: snip someone like Spairegg who does not meditate Where did you get the idea that Sparaig

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip these folks have been in the mindset of believing that there is something essentially WRONG with them for so long that they get angry when

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another (Probable) Flaw in Recent MUM ME Study

2007-01-05 Thread Vaj
On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:52 PM, sparaig wrote: It's merely an analogy. Early MIU textbooks on physics (which were self-published) detailed these analogies but then in a responsible fashion gave a concluding chapter which stated these were just analogies and 'you can only take analogies so far.'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip these folks have been in the mindset of believing that there is something

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/4/07 8:51:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Name a single incident where they actually fired a weapon rather than locked their radar on. I'll give you several in a single three month period in 1999 just in the northern no fly zone. If you'll

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/4/07 8:51:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Name a single incident where they actually fired a weapon rather than locked their radar on. that is STILL not the same as firing on American forces. He was, IIRC, very careful to NEVER do that.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a DP breath, Barry, and relax. Then try to reread what I wrote *calmly*. If you see a problem with my paraphrase of what you wrote that I quoted, explain what I got wrong. That you're fascinated by the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquiseB wrties snipped: They also assume that states of consciousness will continue to change and fluctuate, even after enlightenment is stable. One day you'll be experiencing stage one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another (Probable) Flaw in Recent MUM ME Study

2007-01-05 Thread Vaj
On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:52 PM, sparaig wrote: It's merely an analogy. Early MIU textbooks on physics (which were self-published) detailed these analogies but then in a responsible fashion gave a concluding chapter which stated these were just analogies and 'you can only take analogies so far.'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Take a DP breath, Barry, and relax. Then try to reread what I wrote *calmly*. If you see a problem with my paraphrase of what you wrote that

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/4/07 8:51:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Name a single incident where they actually fired a weapon rather than locked their radar on. I'll give you several in a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip MDixon's absolutely right on this, Lawson. I don't know where the idea that the Iraqis never fired on U.S. planes got started, but it's just wrong, unless the military is blatantly lying. Just a few examples from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just as fodder for discussion, if anyone's on that wavelength, it seems to me that the Vedic/Hindu approach to these different types of samadhi interprets them as stages because they're stuck in a hierarchical

[FairfieldLife] Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Judy writes: So when you claim the criticisms of others are their own deepest, darkest, denied secrets, that must mean what you're accusing them of is *your* deepest, darkest, denied secret, right? Does the 12-step journey provide any insight into how to spot and deal with infinite regresses?

[FairfieldLife] Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Tom T snipped Attention comes and goes on some schedule and where it stops nobody knows to quote the carney who spins the wheel of fortune. Tom TorquiseB writes snipped: And every number is a winner, if you're just weird enough to see it that way. :-) Tom T: Eggzactly, Get your numbers get

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Just as fodder for discussion, if anyone's on that wavelength, it seems to me that the Vedic/Hindu approach to these different types of samadhi

[FairfieldLife] Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Judy writes snipped: As well, you're quite mistaken to suggest that I believe what a person criticizes in others is really their own flaws. I've pointed out before that I think this notion is a thought-stopper, a way of deflecting criticism. It may be true in some cases, but it's by no means a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy writes: So when you claim the criticisms of others are their own deepest, darkest, denied secrets, that must mean what you're accusing them of is *your* deepest, darkest, denied secret,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy writes snipped: As well, you're quite mistaken to suggest that I believe what a person criticizes in others is really their own flaws. I've pointed out before that I think this notion is a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy writes snipped: As well, you're quite mistaken to suggest that I believe what a person criticizes in others is really their own flaws. I've pointed out before that I think this notion is a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy writes: So when you claim the criticisms of others are their own deepest, darkest, denied secrets, that must mean what you're accusing them of is *your* deepest, darkest, denied secret,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: Judy writes snipped: As well, you're quite mistaken to suggest that I believe what a person

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Just as fodder for discussion, if anyone's on that wavelength, it seems

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
I think there is a distinction to be made here, between making some sort of value judgment about one state of consciousness vs. another, and recognizing the valid attributes of each state of consciousness, and that enjoyment grows with the attainment of each successive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: The pundit compound on campus... the *disappeared*

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: snip someone like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: Judy writes snipped:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2007, at 5:28 AM, cardemaister wrote: Yoga-suutra mentions several stages of samaadhi. The main distinction seems to be sabiija- vs. nirbiija-samaadhi. The highest stage is, I guess, dharma-megha-samaadhi.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Yoga-suutra mentions several stages of samaadhi. The main distinction

[FairfieldLife] Re: Another (Probable) Flaw in Recent MUM ME Study

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:52 PM, sparaig wrote: It's merely an analogy. Early MIU textbooks on physics (which were self-published) detailed these analogies but then in a responsible fashion gave a concluding chapter which

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/4/07 8:51:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Name a single incident where they actually fired a weapon rather than locked their radar on. I'll give you several in a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip MDixon's absolutely right on this, Lawson. I don't know where the idea that the Iraqis never fired on U.S. planes got started, but it's just

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 1/4/07 8:51:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, sparaig@ writes: Name a single incident where they actually fired a weapon rather

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bollywood Film Recomendation

2007-01-05 Thread Bhairitu
t3rinity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lagaan: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/lagaan/ Check it out. You'll love it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagaan I agree. Especially if you haven't been acquainted with Bollywood

Re: [FairfieldLife] Censorship vice versa authentic spiritual evolution

2007-01-05 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 5, 2007, at 9:54 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Dear David Rick, Which David is this? Orme-Johnson? Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't comment on that. I'm a Buddhist who doesn't even believe that God exists. :-) Really? If Buddha--Buddhism--Buddhist exists, how can God not exist? I'd like to hear your definition of Buddha. This progression

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wrong. Most refreshing thing I've read here in a while.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Can't comment on that. I'm a Buddhist who doesn't even believe that God exists. :-) Really? If Buddha--Buddhism--Buddhist exists, how can God

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 5, 2007, at 5:28 AM, cardemaister wrote: Yoga-suutra mentions several stages of samaadhi. The main distinction seems to be sabiija- vs.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: I was wrong. Most refreshing thing I've read here in a while. ??? I'm wrong quite often.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Can't comment on that. I'm a Buddhist who doesn't even believe that God

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 5, 2007, at 5:28 AM, cardemaister wrote: Yoga-suutra mentions

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread Vaj
On Jan 5, 2007, at 1:59 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2007, at 5:28 AM, cardemaister wrote: Yoga-suutra mentions several stages of samaadhi. The main distinction seems to be sabiija- vs. nirbiija-samaadhi. The highest

RE: [FairfieldLife] Censorship vice versa authentic spiritual evolution

2007-01-05 Thread Rick Archer
_ From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 1:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Censorship vice versa authentic spiritual evolution On Jan 5, 2007, at 9:54 AM, Rick Archer

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: [snip] Captured in Taliban fortresses firing at United states soldiers, with AK47's, RPG's etc. Many of whom were Saudis with Saudi passports or Pakistani.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2007, at 1:59 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 5, 2007, at 5:28 AM, cardemaister wrote: Yoga-suutra mentions several stages of samaadhi. The main

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer jeffcandace@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: I was wrong. Most refreshing thing I've read here in a while. ???

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Can't comment on that. I'm a Buddhist who doesn't even believe that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tui Na, Chinese Medical concepts it's Hindu/Vedic correspondance

2007-01-05 Thread peterklutz
..and what about the philosophical side of it? What are the Vedic/Hindu concepts corresponding to traditional Chinese medical concepts like: Sanjiao Pericardium the Meridians (and the points were they surface) Qi/Jing/Shen/Blood/Fluids (Jin/Ye) ..and more general like: Yin/Yang Fire, Water,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I would say instead that you *assumed* they were not available to you. Therefore they weren't. Hang on-- Broadening the discussion beyond

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 1/4/07 8:51:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, sparaig@ writes:

[FairfieldLife] Don't have a cow, man...sacrifice one (was Re: Aishwarya Rai's Eyes?)

2007-01-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Sacrifice gains spiritual favor and ascendancy in divinity. The Ribhus

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer jeffcandace@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: I

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: snip Hmmm I wonder if we needed to investigate Japanese and German's that were captured

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread hermandan0
Are you suggesting there is a hierarchy of tits, then, that goes from non-saggy to saggy and that non-saggy tits are somehow better than saggy ones? Why else would you use an example where observation about saggy tits is considered criticism? Aren't all tits equal? Or does the non-hierarchical

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer jeffcandace@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer jeffcandace@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I would say instead that you *assumed* they were not available to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you suggesting there is a hierarchy of tits, then, that goes from non-saggy to saggy and that non-saggy tits are somehow better than saggy ones? Why else would you use an example where observation about saggy tits

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message

[FairfieldLife] Folkie Donovan David Lynch?

2007-01-05 Thread bob_brigante
Folkie Donovan David Lynch? by Randy Lewis Los Angeles Times 5Dec2007 An early front-runner for the 2007 Odd Couple Pairing of the Year award has emerged with word that filmmaker David Lynch and '60s folk- rock hero Donovan will team for three free appearances this month. They'll make stops

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you suggesting there is a hierarchy of tits, then, that goes from non-saggy to saggy and that non-saggy tits are somehow better than saggy ones? No, it's a purely relational model. The tits should be proportional

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iraq Is A Corporate War'

2007-01-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: I was wrong. Judy wrote: He does that pretty often too. Whenever he's been convinced he's wrong, in fact. That's great. I just don't see much of that around here.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nip/Tuck as Spiritual Metaphor

2007-01-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: Are you suggesting there is a hierarchy of tits, then, that goes from non-saggy to saggy and that non-saggy tits are somehow better than saggy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck, Jim, there's a bunch of chimpanzees who have transcended this limitation and are holding forth on this very forum. ;-) Shucks, Bonzo, she's found us out. Time to scram.

[FairfieldLife] The Clerk of Jyotirmath?

2007-01-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
Some people apparently don't even know what The Clerk of Jyotirmath's family name really is. Only one person, that I know of, and I know a lot of TMers, has actually seen The Clerks's passport, namely Tom Anderson, a former TMO Secretary on TTC in Spain, and Tom told me that the name on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Clerk of Jyotirmath?

2007-01-05 Thread Peter
Any point value can awaken, at any moment, to its infinite value, even a lowly paper-pushing clerk. Then the relative distinctions become quite superfluous. By the way, on my TTC as MMY reached up to be helped off a boat he said to the person, Take little Brahman's hand. --- Richard J. Williams

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Clerk of Jyotirmath?

2007-01-05 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Unless Kropinski's interview with Swami Swaroopananda Brahmananda is b.s. (which I don't think it is), Mr. Shrivastava was a clerk, albeit a heavily favored one. That's the karmic lot of a non-Brahmin in the Hindu religious vocation: no women allowed ruling in the clubhouse, and most

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: I'm a Buddhist Which one? who doesn't even believe that God exists. You've mentioned this numerous times, as if it were a badge of honer, being an athiest, and using that to impress other respondents. But there is no evidence that the historical Buddha was an athiest. On

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
sparaig wrote: The sentience of the Whole may be so incomprensible as to be undetectable by any of the sentient parts, so it may not matter, but why assume that there is or isn't such a thing? It's not at all that complicated. If you read the Yoga Sutras, Patanjali makes it dirt simple: The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another (Probable) Flaw in Recent MUM ME Study

2007-01-05 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
As I recall that was Larry Domash: analogies break down if they are pushed too far. David Clay often made the same point in regard to potentially ad hoc arguments. But, alas, there are no philosophers left at MU (that is because philosophy is a shear waste of time, I assume). But logically

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
jim_flanegin wrote: I'd like to hear your definition of Buddha. Which Buddha? The historical Buddha taught causation. The Buddhist teaching on karma is entailed in the Buddha's sermon on the 'Second Watch of the Night' when the Gotama described his attainment of enlightenment. In the 'First

[FairfieldLife] Sri Vidya and Guru Dev

2007-01-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
The worship of Shri Vidya has been popular in India from very ancient times. Swami Gaudapada, the teacher of Shankaracharya, was a worshiper of Sri Vidya. Following his initiation Swami Shankaracharya wrote a lucid ode to Shri Vidya, the Saundariya Lahari, a translation of which is now available

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stages of samaadhi

2007-01-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
authfriend wrote: Heck, Jim, there's a bunch of chimpanzees who have transcended this limitation and are holding forth on this very forum. It's all about Barry, isn't it?

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