[FairfieldLife] Hillbilly sings the blues over VC

2007-07-30 Thread bob_brigante
http://www.ottumwacourier.com/local/local_story_210231323.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a crazy person be enlightened?

2007-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other day glancing though the usual posts on this list I noted someone saying that MMY was crazy and the debate aside whether he is enlightened was thinking about whether a crazy person could be enlightened? I

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Tower

2007-07-30 Thread bob_brigante
The MUM tower is a guard shack compared to the $3.5 mil tower Bevan wants to build in his Aussie hometown: http://tinyurl.com/32ebrd Adelaide Now $3.5m city tower July 30, 2007 02:15am A MULTI-storey tower of knowledge may be built at 190 Greenhill Rd in honour of Dr Bevan Morris, a leader

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a crazy person be enlightened?

2007-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 29, 2007, at 4:24 PM, suziezuzie wrote: I once had some dental work done, a crown that had zinc in it. For five months, I experienced what it was like being clinically insane, even telling my four year old

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is the TMO part of the Shankara tradition?

2007-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turq, this first part reminded me of the division of Hindu scripture into the Srutis, Smirtis, and Puranas -- the Heard (actually experienced), the Remembered (got the skinny from someone actually experienced, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Special...or not...

2007-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip The music was acoustic and eclectic, ranging from blues to ragtime to Celtic. The instrumentation was equally eclectic; we're talkin' guitars,

[FairfieldLife] Enlightened one comments- simple truth of it

2007-07-30 Thread Ron
Namaste Siddhananda, Namaste Leena, *Thank you. S You are welcome. *Your openness is truly appreciated. You give me hope. S There is always hope, always that open door which when walked through a new land unfoldsand finally that last step (which is the first step) and freedom

[FairfieldLife] Bowling for Columbine

2007-07-30 Thread cardemaister
Just saw Bowling for Columbine for the first time. It's kinda mind-boggling how different the atmosphere in Canada seems to be compared to that in the US of A! But I wonder, do some Canadians *really* keep their doors unlocked almost all the time? :)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bowling for Columbine

2007-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just saw Bowling for Columbine for the first time. It's kinda mind-boggling how different the atmosphere in Canada seems to be compared to that in the US of A! But I wonder, do some Canadians *really* keep their doors

Re: [FairfieldLife] Enlightened one comments- simple truth of it

2007-07-30 Thread Peter
Is it a requirement that the enlightened ones in this earth walking pepper their speech with sanskrit words and phrases? Om Tat Sat Linga-ji --- Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namaste Siddhananda, Namaste Leena, *Thank you. S You are welcome. *Your openness is truly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Bowling for Columbine

2007-07-30 Thread Vaj
On Jul 30, 2007, at 4:18 AM, cardemaister wrote: Just saw Bowling for Columbine for the first time. It's kinda mind-boggling how different the atmosphere in Canada seems to be compared to that in the US of A! But I wonder, do some Canadians *really* keep their doors unlocked almost all the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul is Coming!

2007-07-30 Thread off_world_beings
Go Ron Paul ! -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends, We're happy to announce that Ron Paul will be visiting Fairfield next Sunday Evening! That's Sunday, August 5th. We've rented Morningstar Studio and hope to fill it with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened one comments- simple truth of it

2007-07-30 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it a requirement that the enlightened ones in this earth walking pepper their speech with sanskrit words and phrases? Om Tat Sat Linga-ji Thanks for the heads up Pete. All these years I had just assumed it was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a crazy person be enlightened?

2007-07-30 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: The other day glancing though the usual posts on this list I noted someone saying that MMY was crazy and the debate aside whether he is enlightened

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a crazy person be enlightened?

2007-07-30 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rack up another vote for crazy + enlightened here. This also brings up the questions: Can an enlightened -- even the most highly enlightened: 1) be a sexual lecher 2) cut corners in business deals, and be an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened one comments- simple truth of it

2007-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Is it a requirement that the enlightened ones in this earth walking pepper their speech with sanskrit words and phrases? Om Tat Sat

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can a crazy person be enlightened?

2007-07-30 Thread Vaj
On Jul 30, 2007, at 10:38 AM, new.morning wrote: This also brings up the questions: Can an enlightened -- even the most highly enlightened: 1) be a sexual lecher 2) cut corners in business deals, and be an abnormally hard and tricky bargainer? 3) fell the ends justify the means in fund

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can a crazy person be enlightened?

2007-07-30 Thread Vaj
Every thing is relative. On Jul 30, 2007, at 10:38 AM, new.morning wrote: 1) be a sexual lecher Not a good sign, but again, depends on circumstances. See The Divine Madman. Drukpa Kunleg had sexual relations with a number of ripe women presumably to assist in their awakening. The great

[FairfieldLife] Re: S-land TM centers back cuz of new PM

2007-07-30 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The trigger for Maharishi to reopen his organisation in Britain What organisation in Britain? Does he think it still exists in any meaningful way? Uns.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened one comments- simple truth of it

2007-07-30 Thread Ron
My experience, which may be quite different than others, with regard to questons, answers, and transparency in TM is- 1. Not much of direct answers to quesitions 2. Not much transparency, but rather confidentiality. The next experience is I felt this is how it is on the spiritual path. Now,

[FairfieldLife] conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread Rick Archer
Him: I said, about your enlightened friend: Good for him. Really. But no big deal. Why would it be? Me: I didn't say it was. Neither would he. But I was somehow under the impression that you didn't believe people experienced such states. Him: No, I don't have time to clarify my position

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened one comments- simple truth of it

2007-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experience, which may be quite different than others, with regard to questons, answers, and transparency in TM is- 1. Not much of direct answers to quesitions 2. Not much transparency, but rather confidentiality.

[FairfieldLife] The bagpipes

2007-07-30 Thread Rick Archer
Someone emailed that they've been using bagpipes around some of the Celebrations.He went and looked up on Wikipedia and found that materials used for bags vary widely, but the most common are the skins of local animals such as goats, sheep, cows, and pigs. He pointed out that perhaps there's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Tower

2007-07-30 Thread Lsoma
In a message dated 7/30/2007 2:26:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WOW. 3.5 Million dollars! What happened to the inner heart of our movement. Many people starving in the world could use a meal today. Bevan will always get what he wants. His own idea and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bowling for Columbine

2007-07-30 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/30/07 6:28:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the problem isn't the guns per se; it's something else. Americans just like to kill people. U, not all Americans. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Tower

2007-07-30 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/30/07 12:51:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But the question remains-Will Bevan in the long run end up alone with his tower of honor and the scientifec research without anyone to follow his ideas and beliefs one to two years from now? Lsoma.

[FairfieldLife] Tom Snyder dies

2007-07-30 Thread MDixon6569
I remember when M canceled at the last minute for an interview by Tom Snyder and he was so furious he hurled one insult after another at M for the rest of the show. The next thing you know, Joe Piscapo is doing imitations of Tom Snyder freaking out and going insane on his television

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread Marek Reavis
Excellent conversation. Thanks. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Him: I said, about your enlightened friend: Good for him. Really. But no big deal. Why would it be? Me: I didn't say it was. Neither would he. But I was somehow under

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened one comments- simple truth of it

2007-07-30 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: My experience, which may be quite different than others, with regard to questons, answers, and transparency in TM is- 1. Not much of direct answers

[FairfieldLife] What is known in enlightened state ? understanding intellectually where am I

2007-07-30 Thread Ron
Post 1 Namaste Swami-G and Swami Siddhananda, Namaste and Om, *This is something that I forgot to mention yesterday even though several recent postings brought it to the foreground for me. I think I didn't even know about this last step (first step), the cutting of that last thread,

[FairfieldLife] MMY Kundalini audio

2007-07-30 Thread Vaj
Would someone please seed these as torrents? 1. MMY on Kundalini from Lake Louise, Canada 1968 http://www.box.net/shared/by1nmnoznv 2. MMY - Expressions ofIndividuality from Infinity - Humboldt http://www.box.net/shared/06vgkogoz2 3. and 4. parts 1 and 2. Residence course with Satyanand and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened one comments- simple truth of it

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we're back to the first question I ever asked you, Ron. What are the criteria that you use when someone tells you that they're enlightened, and you choose to *believe* them? *Other than* the desire for a simple

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Him: No, I don't have time to clarify my position right now but you might remember that I don't doubt the notion of continuous witnessing (in fact, I've had very long stretches of it) nor even of celestial vision/ god

RE: [FairfieldLife] MMY Kundalini audio

2007-07-30 Thread Rick Archer
3. and 4. parts 1 and 2. Residence course with Satyanand and Jerry Jarvis - Cape Cod, Mass 1968 Are you sure this wasn’t Cape May, NJ, Spring of ’69? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date:

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio

2007-07-30 Thread william108wm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. and 4. parts 1 and 2. Residence course with Satyanand and Jerry Jarvis - Cape Cod, Mass 1968 Are you sure this wasn't Cape May, NJ, Spring of '69? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Tower

2007-07-30 Thread off_world_beings
Such things can never be built where they are not appreciated. A university is hard enough. A tower of Babel just won't fly. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/30/2007 2:26:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened one comments- simple truth of it

2007-07-30 Thread Ron
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: So we're back to the first question I ever asked you, Ron. What are the criteria that you use when someone tells you that they're enlightened, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio

2007-07-30 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would someone please seed these as torrents? Although I do a fair amount of downloading with BitTorrent, I have no idea how to seed a torrent. I did, however, upload the files to my webserver: http://alex.natel.net/ffl/audio/

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Article on Maharishi Effect Stock Mkt.'

2007-07-30 Thread Bhairitu
So does this mean that yogic flyers are also responsible for the decline of the dollar? That's why the market went to record highs before plunging. It takes more dollars to match its previous value. Robert wrote: Hansen: TM flyers meditate for peace, prosperity

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a crazy person be enlightened?

2007-07-30 Thread matrixmonitor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Rack up another vote for crazy + enlightened here. This also brings up the questions: Can an enlightened -- even the most highly enlightened:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a crazy person be enlightened?

2007-07-30 Thread matrixmonitor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Rack up another vote for crazy + enlightened here. This also brings up the questions: Can an enlightened -- even the most highly enlightened:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a crazy person be enlightened?

2007-07-30 Thread matrixmonitor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Rack up another vote for crazy + enlightened here. This also brings up the questions: Can an enlightened -- even the most highly enlightened:

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Him: No, I don't have time to clarify my position right now but you might remember that I don't doubt the notion of continuous witnessing (in fact,

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Him: No, I don't have time to clarify my position right now but you might

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread Rory Goff
Rory wrote: Yes, I have found as long as I am claiming C.C., G.C., or U.C., and Brahman has not yet claimed me, I am not fully liberated, and am still attached or bound to experience. Along these same lines, when you were asking about how we fall into ignorance, I find that

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rory wrote: Yes, I have found as long as I am claiming C.C., G.C., or U.C., and Brahman has not yet claimed me, I am not fully liberated, and am still attached or bound to experience. Along

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread Rory Goff
jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Hi Rory- yeah, but the diff in Brahman is that consciousness concentrates into the particle, but doesn't really collapse into it- snip There is or can be a total collapse, as Krishna/Karttikeya begins to be enlivened, but not one in which the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Kumbha Mela- First to be held in U.S.'

2007-07-30 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sight of naked, ashed Sadhus traipsing down Main Street, Irvine will be worth the price of admission alone. http://youtube.com/watch?v=mNtseiHzXK0 http://youtube.com/watch?v=CpCU2Tm9Xo0

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is why I say, as Brahman I am the Cosmic Consciousness of my particle(s), instead of I am in C.C., and as Krishna/Karttikeya I am the God Consciousness of my particle(s), instead of I am in G.C., and so on -- I

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Hi Rory- yeah, but the diff in Brahman is that consciousness concentrates into the particle, but doesn't really collapse into it- snip There is or can be a total

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread Rory Goff
jim_flanegin wrote: Hi Rory- yeah, but the diff in Brahman is that consciousness concentrates into the particle, but doesn't really collapse into it- snip Rory Goff wrote: There is or can be a total collapse, as Krishna/Karttikeya begins to be enlivened,

[FairfieldLife] Post TMO View of Meaning in Life

2007-07-30 Thread new . morning
In a recent conversation, someone mentioned Frankl's book -- Mans Search for Meaning -- which i read some time ago -- but when I was wrapped up in a TMO world view. I began reflecting on it. Frankl, as I refreshed my memory on a website, said there is not abstract meaning of life, but only

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: Hi Rory- yeah, but the diff in Brahman is that consciousness concentrates into the particle, but doesn't really collapse into it- snip Rory Goff wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post TMO View of Meaning in Life

2007-07-30 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a recent conversation, someone mentioned Frankl's book -- Mans Search for Meaning -- which i read some time ago -- but when I was wrapped up in a TMO world view. I began reflecting on it. Frankl, as I refreshed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened one comments- simple truth of it

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: So we're back to the first question I ever asked you, Ron. What are the criteria

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, *each* bindu point remaining absolutely true to its self, and yet veritably exploding with Bliss-- pretty cool, huh? Yes :-) Which brings me to the word, ignorance, a word which many seekers don't like. At

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post TMO View of Meaning in Life

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: In a recent conversation, someone mentioned Frankl's book -- Mans Search for Meaning -- which i read some time ago -- but when I was wrapped up

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Yes, *each* bindu point remaining absolutely true to its self, and yet veritably exploding with Bliss-- pretty cool, huh? Yes :-) Which

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Kundalini audio

2007-07-30 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Would someone please seed these as torrents? Although I do a fair amount of downloading with BitTorrent, I have no idea how to seed a torrent. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I have found as long as I am claiming C.C., G.C., or U.C., and Brahman has not yet claimed me, I am not fully liberated, and am still attached or bound to experience. Along these same lines, when you were

[FairfieldLife] Bolide meteor over Croatia

2007-07-30 Thread bob_brigante
http://dnevnik.hr/naslovnica/vijesti/hrvatska/20070726_21921_61602.php

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: Yes, I have found as long as I am claiming C.C., G.C., or U.C., and Brahman has not yet claimed me, I am not fully liberated, and am still

[FairfieldLife] Re: Igmar Bergman RIP

2007-07-30 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He passed on today. An appropriate day to be asking about meaning in life -- a favorite theme of his. A twist on Turk's party theme: Come as your favorite Bergman character. Dibs on MVonS -- though I will share

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this may be due to states of consciousness' being temporarily attained via external means, rather than fully understood in terms of the Self, which is beyond the various states. I have noticed enhancements of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY Tower

2007-07-30 Thread Peter
What a f*cking waste of money. A monument to nothing that will mean nothing for nothing to nobody. With MMY's death whole thing just goes poof! Bevan has been the true demon in the TMO. MMY's curse. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/30/2007 2:26:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened one comments- simple truth of it

2007-07-30 Thread Peter
--- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it a requirement that the enlightened ones in this earth walking pepper their speech with sanskrit words and phrases? Om Tat Sat Linga-ji Thanks for the

[FairfieldLife] Igmar Bergman RIP

2007-07-30 Thread new . morning
He passed on today. An appropriate day to be asking about meaning in life -- a favorite theme of his.

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: I think this may be due to states of consciousness' being temporarily attained via external means, rather than fully understood in terms of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for some excellent points and perspectives New! Nothing to add but a high five for being genuine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: Yes, I have found as long as I am claiming

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And a side point, going back to posts of last week: the discussion on how do you know you are awake and not in a dream. (That is in a state as analogous to waking as is dreaming). How do you know for sure you are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/26/07 8:31:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, j [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the major reasons Congress doesn't have better ratings is that Democrats were elected to do something about the Bush

[FairfieldLife] Re: Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

2007-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/26/07 9:50:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All polls until this week consistently reported 10 points less support for Congress than for the President. Fact. Deal with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Peter's post= what is EN.- sidhananda response

2007-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 27, 2007, at 8:45 AM, billy jim wrote: Hi Vaj. Yes Vaj. Their mythos just is expansive enough to talk extensively about channels of mind-body coordination (nadi), internal life-energy flows (prana-vayu )and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Peter's post= what is EN.- sidhananda response

2007-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's amazing how pervasive the it's in the physiology idea is embedded in the TM mythos. Um, no, actually it would be amazing if it *weren't* pervasive, given that--as I suspect you know--it's a major aspect of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: On the Nature of Evil, Compassion, and Enlightenment

2007-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip 4. Mr. Knapp has a monetary vested interest in stirring up a hornet's nest of controversy since he gets paid by the supposed victims of abuse. This invalidates his crummy ploy. This is too funny. John Knapp of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Vedic Concepts 4 forces of Physics'

2007-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 17, 2007, at 12:40 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 17, 2007, at 11:44 AM, authfriend wrote: snip We've been over this before. The authors were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is the TMO part of the Shankara tradition?

2007-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: snip The problems with believing in the stories, as you say, is that you can start taking them personally and then feel personally diminished

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Vaj, first of all, though Maharishi was snubbing tradition in his willingness to leave the yamas and niyamas of Patanjali out of his teachings and techniques, it was that revolutionary aspect of his teaching

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tying to Danas post, he ask cogently, the same sorts of questions / observations of Dr Tart (Charlie to many on campus). Jim may be eternally free -- Rory plays with his particles, Tom has his hardrive loaded every

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for some excellent points and perspectives New! Nothing to add but a high five for being genuine. And the alternative would be being ...a giraffe?:-)

[FairfieldLife] Enlightened one comments- simple truth of i

2007-07-30 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Barry writes snipped: I think if you ponder this you'll come back with faith. Jim Flanegin responds snipped: An interesting and provocative statement—that we confirm our belief with regard to another's enlightenment primarily with faith. Faith for me plays a central role in my ongoing

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a side point, going back to posts of last week: the discussion on how do you know you are awake and not in a dream. (That is in a state as analogous to waking as is dreaming). The answer, -- was weak in my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened one comments- simple truth of i

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry writes snipped: I think if you ponder this you'll come back with faith. Jim Flanegin responds snipped: An interesting and provocative statement—that we confirm our belief with regard

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Tying to Danas post, he ask cogently, the same sorts of questions / observations of Dr Tart (Charlie to many on campus). Jim may be eternally

[FairfieldLife] Re: conversation with Dana Sawyer

2007-07-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Tying to Danas post, he ask cogently, the same sorts of questions /

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-30 Thread billy jim
authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given his very different understanding, of course MMY would not have taught mastery of the yamas and niyamas as a prerequisite to samadhi, even to the most religiously devoted Hindu practitioners; it would have been counterproductive, in his view. He

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi-What he did, and why he did it!

2007-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given his very different understanding, of course MMY would not have taught mastery of the yamas and niyamas as a prerequisite to samadhi, even to the most religiously

[FairfieldLife] Word of the day: suSumnaa

2007-07-30 Thread cardemaister
2 suSumna mf(%{A})n. very gracious or kind RV. VS. ; m. N. of one of the 7 principal rays of the sun (supposed to supply heat to the moon) VP. ; ***(%{A}) f. a partic. artery (prob. ` the carotid ') or vein of the body (lying between those called %{iDA} and % {piGgalA} , and supposed to be one