[FairfieldLife] Undiagnosed celiac disease
After hearing on TV a young M.D. tell, that all his allergy symptoms had disappeared after his starting gluten free diet, I decided to give it a try. Some of the results: 1. Within two days of starting it, became so horny that had to spank the monkey in the night because couldn't sleep due to that. I gather that might somehow be associated with the liver and its production several hormones?? Usually I only jerk off for fun, not because I have no choice! Also my armpits and balls started sweating much more than they usually do. Somehow felt like a teenage chap for those reasons. 2. The irritation in my lungs caused by room dust became over 80% less, I'd say. 3. (Unstressing?) The worst lower back pain for years, but mainly only positional(?). That might be just a coincidence... 4. During the night my hands became so hot I thought I'd done g-tummo without realising it, LOL! Prolly associated with number 1. So, for undiagnosed celiac brahmacaarins that gluten free diet might be extremely challenging. Even they need sleep, y'know? :-) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2796.1999.00403.x/full
[FairfieldLife] From a blue world, back into a green one
Loved the ocean, and experienced all of her, sunny days where an hour gets you a deep tan, to thudding through thirty foot waves on the way home. 3,000 miles in ten days, with 2,600 passengers. The first song is called Princess At Sea. Same fleet as the original Love Boat - kept asking for Captain Stueben, to no avail. Didn't see Ike either...Started composing this on deck one morning around 5:30: https://www.box.com/s/x99kl70nh60gjkydg2st copyright temple dog The next song is called Princess In Port. Impressions. Visited Catalina Island, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo San Lucas, and San Diego, then back to SF: https://www.box.com/s/ukuw1b766qcefwa856uk copyright temple dog The voyage is like one fluid set of hatha yoga exercises, always reacting subtly, with every muscle, to the waves and wind, gently and cleanly moving assumptions of the physical world aside. Very much a journey back through time for me, too, as my father was working in Mexico when I was born near San Diego. Many of the crew were from The Philippines and Indonesia, where I grew up, so it was easy to start a conversation that way.
[FairfieldLife] Health Advisory
Speaking in my capacity as a former health and medicine writer (and I still write such articles, when the topics interest me), I feel obliged to warn FFLers of a disease which seems to have appeared here early this posting week. I am speaking, of course, of Wordvomititis. It is a viral disease similar to -- and often misdiagnosed as -- Wordflooditis, because the two share similar symptoms. However, whereas Wordflooditis presents itself as a seem- ingly never-ending stream of words, similar to uncontrolled drooling, Wordvomititis is more projectile in nature, and involves not just drooling out large volumes of bile, but spewing them out forcefully, similar to Regan's pea- soup projectile vomiting in The Exorcist. Indeed, the comparison may be apt, because the other major difference between the drool of Wordflooditis and the spew of Wordvomitis is the latter's putrescence. It is almost as if the Wordvomititis sufferer *saves up* his or her bile for several days (in extreme cases for years) before puking it out. This gives the resulting spew the undeniable stench that is the primary indication of the Wordvomititis virus. Wordvomititis also differs from Wordflooditis in that the former is communicable. One can actually attempt to read the latter without contracting the disease oneself, but reading -- and certainly replying to -- a large puddle of Wordvomit will pass the virus along to the hapless reader, and the disease may become pandemic, spreading to all who touch it or come into contact with it. Your best bet, if you wish to remain free of this virus, is to remain wary and avoid the puddles of Wordvomit just as you might avoid piles of dogshit on Paris streets. Stepping in them will only expose you to the virus, make you as smelly as the thing you stepped in, and result in increasing your risk of contracting the disease yourself.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proof of Heaven - for Emily
It is very very uplifting From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 10:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proof of Heaven - for Emily --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Nice piece of writing Ann - I just read it too. Try Dying to be Me by Anita Moorjani if you have a mind to - I loved it. Thanks for the recommendation. I have an iPad and will order it tonight. I love the instant gratification when it comes to being able to order books online like that and download them immediately. I thought I would miss the feel of the paper and the book in my hand more when reading from a tablet screen (iPad) plus I feel veyy guilty about not buying from my local bookstores (I always try to buy from independent bookstores, being an little independent shop owner myself). Now I can continue to obsess on death and dying more than I usually do by reading a second book on it. Hopefully ' Dying to be Me' will be uplifting. I tend to get rather Woody Allenish about illness and death. I need all the uplift I can get. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 9:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Proof of Heaven - for Emily  Hey Emily, I have finished the book and I enjoyed it. I would characterize 'Proof of Heaven' as a big book within a little book. On one level it is a little book, it is merely one man's experience of a place, a reality that he believes was true. What he reveals about his experience is lovely in the extreme; it is very personal and I would love most aspects of what he saw and perceived to be true. The big part of the book for me is that it has permanently instilled in me a vision and a hope for what could be waiting for me after death. I believe Eben to be a courageous man who, in the male-dominated medical profession, has put himself forward for what he knows to be probable ridicule in his peers' eyes. It is very evident from his writing that his NDE is the one most substantial event in his life and because of what it has done for him personally, on all levels, he feels it vital to communicate his 'findings' while in his coma to the world. That is how positive and life altering his coma experience was, let alone the very near to dying he came with a very rare disease for someone his age. Then there is, of course, the 'miracle' of complete recovery from virtual brain death as more proof to him that he was 'chosen' to have this NDE and recovery in order to spread a message of hope and happiness for people. Plus, being a learned man in the area of the brain and its functioning, its physical makeup and how disease or health manifests as well as knowledge gained through years practicing and studying within in his profession, his opinions and scientific evidence give more clout to dispel the notion his NDE was merely a vision or brain-originating hallucination. He gives strong evidence for why it could not be that but was the EXPERIENCE OF PURE CONSCIOUSNESS unsullied by brain function or memory or projection. I also found that in his description of the various 'strata' of those worlds he visited after falling into his deep coma that they resonated with some part of me. The worm's eye view was something I felt I had some knowledge of as well as the infinite bliss and love of the deeper places, the places even closer to God. I felt in his descriptions a tickling of some deeper memory for me of some truth there so I take his NDE very seriously. Thanks for recommending the book, it was a worthwhile read and maybe as close as we can come to a scientifically backed up explanation for what might possibly exist, for some or for all, after dropping the body. No matter what, it is a lovely idea or vision to hold in one's awareness while we still clamber about this planet in the body we currently possess.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God and Buddha
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: A conversation between Deepak Chopra and Robert Thurman. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD_dZ4pc3vA Rated: Not appropriate for Nablusoss
[FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
Those were part of our rules, seventhray. What does seventhray stand for, if you don't mind me asking? Well, I guess I'll ask about significance of 27 also? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: There was also a version where at some point, someone would lay the bat down, and someone else would roll the ball in, and if it hit the bat and bounced up, and you were able to catch the ball on the bounce, you won that round,or got some points. But I can't remember the name of that game. So, when you say roller ball that also comes to mind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Seventhray...it is Indian Ball. I don't recall ever learning about that. Thank you. Share...fascinating about cellular memory/response and the skin cells. Do you know if this experiment was duplicated? I wonder if any responses are dependent on other factors such as individual's constitution or how much time the cells are detached from the body. This brings to mind Donna Eden's book on Energy Medicine and one of her accounts regarding an amputated finger. I'd have to look up the details now, but it seems their was communication between the finger and the hand from which it was amputated. I know energy medicine is controversial and some (most?) scientists tout it as pseudo science. One day maybe we will have the mechanisms for more reliable hard data. Regardless, once a person experiences something, it's difficult for one to deny that experience and remain stable. I mean, to deny it can produce a cognitive dissonance which can eventually be detrimental to one's well being. I think of one of Audubon's quotes: When the bird and the book disagree, always believe the bird. [But I'd take out the word always. ;) ] I posted in another FFL thread about Paul Pearsall. I think I posted about his interviews with organ transplant patients and the cellular memory transferred to the patient. Patients (at least at the time the book was written) could not know who their donors were for one year; yet, the patients had picked up words and/or memories and/or certain behaviors and tastes that the patient didn't have previous to receiving their new organ. Come to learn a year later, that those changes coincided with their donors' memories/tastes/words/etc. Life sure is complex and rich. I was updating my poetry archive last night. It was fun reading through poems I've penned in the last 4 years. One piece reminded me of how so much life surrounds us every moment of every day; life is everywhere. And the seeds of life...such an abundance of seeds. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: I think it's what we used to call Indian Ball http://www.stlmag.com/St-Louis-Magazine/July-2008/What-the-Is-Indian-Ball/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Hi Carol, I always played slow pitch so I doubt I could even hit one of those fast pitches! I don't know what a rollie bat is but my Grandad played sandlot baseball so I guess it's in my genes. Speaking of which, the name of the Bruce Lipton movie is also Biology of Belief. The public library showed it here a few years ago. I remember some research about putting a few skin cells from a person in a petrie dish. When that person heard their spouse say I love you, even in the next room, their skin cells changed. Very cool stuff. Anyway, here's a question: if we were to find some cells of Copernicus, could we say I love you to them and would that benefit Copernicus? Another kind of time travel maybe. From: Carol jchwelch@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!  Women's softball pitchers are fun to watch. I never played softball much except in a few sandlot games. I played lots of sandlot rollie bat. Did ya'll play rollie bat? I wonder if kids still play that...or was it a 60s and 70s thing. Sixties thing...like running through the pesticide when the bug spray truck would drive through the hood. It's amazing we aren't more messed up. Ha. I'm not familiar with the movie you are referring to; what is the name of it? I googled Bruce Lipton. I recall hearing about his book Biology of Belief. But I haven't read it. It may behoove me to put it on my list. I have read Norman Cousins' book Head First: The Biology of Hope which I found intriguing. But it is dated compared to what is out there now. I enjoyed Candace Pert's book Molecules of Emotion. I really
[FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
When I think of hillbilly...I think of bluegrass and The Darlins on Andy Griffith. ;) But, I also immediately thought of fiddles and bagpipes. I grew up in bluegrass country. A one of the local barbeque places (Sims in Dudley Shoals, NC), Doc Watson used to come in and play for free, no cover charge. He and some of his band would come on over when they wanted a bite to eat. They ate free and then they'd play for the local patrons. I tire of bluegrass rather quickly though. But I also tire of jazz and blues rather quickly. I need variety. I seldom tire of bagpipes or fiddles or flutes. I think it be in my Appalachia blood...them there fiddles and pipes. One of my favorite well-known fiddlers is Natalie MacMaster. As far as I know she ain't from Appalachia, but rather Canada. ;) Thanks for that snippet background of music history Curtis. Interesting. PS side note: Did you know that Appalachian Trail is now extending into Europe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Appalachian_Trail#Extension_to_Europe_and_North_Africa *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Oh you must be referring to Nabbie's comments. I'm always puzzled by him characterizing Mississippi delta blues as hillbilly music. To my thinking, that label would only apply to bluegrass and country. Yours is the more common distinction. The music of the hillbilly is shaped by Irish and Scottish folk music rather than black culture. They are almost direct opposites musically. I think he is using it as a euphemism for I don't like you. Growing up in the blues I made stronger distinctions between African American based blues and the white blues of say Hank Williams. In my recent research I am finding that there was more of a crossover between white and black cultures in music than I had realized, especially cowboy music. Black bluesmen were as crazy about cowboys as everyone else. When Alan Lomax went to record Muddy Waters before he went to Chicago in 1941 he knew more cowboy songs than blues songs! Alan only recorded his blues songs in that session which is kind of too bad. Tommy Johnson yodeled in his 1928 recording. I don't feel much affinity with the twang in their voices but the themes of the blues sure zoom forth in this song by Jimmy Davis who had a number one hit in '40 followed by Gene Autry's number one hit with the same song in '41. But check out the first verse for all the blues. Gene started with the chorus in his version, and it changes the blues vibe of the song completely. I play this in old folks homes, they love it. The other night, dear, As I lay sleeping I dreamed I held you in my arms. When I awoke, dear, I was mistaken And I hung my head and cried. You are my sunshine, My only sunshine. You make me happy When skies are grey. You'll never know, dear, How much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away. I'll always love you And make you happy If you will only say the same But if you leave me To love another You'll regret it all some day; You are my sunshine, My only sunshine. You make me happy When skies are grey. You'll never know, dear, How much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away. You told me once, dear You really loved me And no one else could come between But now you've left me And love another You have shattered all my dreams; You are my sunshine, My only sunshine. You make me happy When skies are grey. You'll never know, dear, How much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health Advisory
When someone on a public forum tries to get you not to read certain posts, you have to wonder: What is it that this person doesn't want me to know about? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Speaking in my capacity as a former health and medicine writer (and I still write such articles, when the topics interest me), I feel obliged to warn FFLers of a disease which seems to have appeared here early this posting week. I am speaking, of course, of Wordvomititis. It is a viral disease similar to -- and often misdiagnosed as -- Wordflooditis, because the two share similar symptoms. However, whereas Wordflooditis presents itself as a seem- ingly never-ending stream of words, similar to uncontrolled drooling, Wordvomititis is more projectile in nature, and involves not just drooling out large volumes of bile, but spewing them out forcefully, similar to Regan's pea- soup projectile vomiting in The Exorcist. Indeed, the comparison may be apt, because the other major difference between the drool of Wordflooditis and the spew of Wordvomitis is the latter's putrescence. It is almost as if the Wordvomititis sufferer *saves up* his or her bile for several days (in extreme cases for years) before puking it out. This gives the resulting spew the undeniable stench that is the primary indication of the Wordvomititis virus. Wordvomititis also differs from Wordflooditis in that the former is communicable. One can actually attempt to read the latter without contracting the disease oneself, but reading -- and certainly replying to -- a large puddle of Wordvomit will pass the virus along to the hapless reader, and the disease may become pandemic, spreading to all who touch it or come into contact with it. Your best bet, if you wish to remain free of this virus, is to remain wary and avoid the puddles of Wordvomit just as you might avoid piles of dogshit on Paris streets. Stepping in them will only expose you to the virus, make you as smelly as the thing you stepped in, and result in increasing your risk of contracting the disease yourself.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health Advisory
I wonder if anyone is going to read any of it. Okay, I started reading a little of it, since I woke up in the middle of the night, (couldn't sleep) and peeked at it for a moment. But then I saw it was all the same. But I did have a funny thought this morning. Judy should say, I've got a surprise tucked in here somewhere for those who go through it Maybe a personal factoid, like I have a pet and it's a, or For exercise, I.. Yea, I'd go through it a little to extract that factoid. (-: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Speaking in my capacity as a former health and medicine writer (and I still write such articles, when the topics interest me), I feel obliged to warn FFLers of a disease which seems to have appeared here early this posting week. I am speaking, of course, of Wordvomititis. It is a viral disease similar to -- and often misdiagnosed as -- Wordflooditis, because the two share similar symptoms. However, whereas Wordflooditis presents itself as a seem- ingly never-ending stream of words, similar to uncontrolled drooling, Wordvomititis is more projectile in nature, and involves not just drooling out large volumes of bile, but spewing them out forcefully, similar to Regan's pea- soup projectile vomiting in The Exorcist. Indeed, the comparison may be apt, because the other major difference between the drool of Wordflooditis and the spew of Wordvomitis is the latter's putrescence. It is almost as if the Wordvomititis sufferer *saves up* his or her bile for several days (in extreme cases for years) before puking it out. This gives the resulting spew the undeniable stench that is the primary indication of the Wordvomititis virus. Wordvomititis also differs from Wordflooditis in that the former is communicable. One can actually attempt to read the latter without contracting the disease oneself, but reading -- and certainly replying to -- a large puddle of Wordvomit will pass the virus along to the hapless reader, and the disease may become pandemic, spreading to all who touch it or come into contact with it. Your best bet, if you wish to remain free of this virus, is to remain wary and avoid the puddles of Wordvomit just as you might avoid piles of dogshit on Paris streets. Stepping in them will only expose you to the virus, make you as smelly as the thing you stepped in, and result in increasing your risk of contracting the disease yourself.
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a blue world, back into a green one
Welcome back. I was thinking about you out there on the ocean somewhere. Was it as wonderful as you had hoped? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Loved the ocean, and experienced all of her, sunny days where an hour gets you a deep tan, to thudding through thirty foot waves on the way home. 3,000 miles in ten days, with 2,600 passengers. The first song is called Princess At Sea. Same fleet as the original Love Boat - kept asking for Captain Stueben, to no avail. Didn't see Ike either...Started composing this on deck one morning around 5:30: https://www.box.com/s/x99kl70nh60gjkydg2st copyright temple dog The next song is called Princess In Port. Impressions. Visited Catalina Island, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo San Lucas, and San Diego, then back to SF: https://www.box.com/s/ukuw1b766qcefwa856uk copyright temple dog The voyage is like one fluid set of hatha yoga exercises, always reacting subtly, with every muscle, to the waves and wind, gently and cleanly moving assumptions of the physical world aside. Very much a journey back through time for me, too, as my father was working in Mexico when I was born near San Diego. Many of the crew were from The Philippines and Indonesia, where I grew up, so it was easy to start a conversation that way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Health Advisory
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Speaking in my capacity as a former health and medicine writer (and I still write such articles, when the topics interest me), I feel obliged to warn FFLers of a disease which seems to have appeared here early this posting week. I am speaking, of course, of Wordvomititis. It is a viral disease similar to -- and often misdiagnosed as -- Wordflooditis, because the two share similar symptoms. However, whereas Wordflooditis presents itself as a seem- ingly never-ending stream of words, similar to uncontrolled drooling, Wordvomititis is more projectile in nature, and involves not just drooling out large volumes of bile, but spewing them out forcefully, similar to Regan's pea- soup projectile vomiting in The Exorcist. Indeed, the comparison may be apt, because the other major difference between the drool of Wordflooditis and the spew of Wordvomitis is the latter's putrescence. It is almost as if the Wordvomititis sufferer *saves up* his or her bile for several days (in extreme cases for years) before puking it out. This gives the resulting spew the undeniable stench that is the primary indication of the Wordvomititis virus. Wordvomititis also differs from Wordflooditis in that the former is communicable. One can actually attempt to read the latter without contracting the disease oneself, but reading -- and certainly replying to -- a large puddle of Wordvomit will pass the virus along to the hapless reader, and the disease may become pandemic, spreading to all who touch it or come into contact with it. Your best bet, if you wish to remain free of this virus, is to remain wary and avoid the puddles of Wordvomit just as you might avoid piles of dogshit on Paris streets. Stepping in them will only expose you to the virus, make you as smelly as the thing you stepped in, and result in increasing your risk of contracting the disease yourself. Oh dear, too late. I just read this post of yours. Does this virus last long?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, And if you read these books it appears, also, for the dead (but not gone). -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@... wrote: But I also tire of jazz and blues rather quickly. OMG I am so suspending your favorite poster status! It is not possible to tire of blues ever. I've been playing it since I was 14 and I am ramping up even more these days after all these years. Oh wait I've been deep into Malian music again lately so please ignore the above, I was totally full of it, variety in music does in fact rock. Doc Watson was kind of a hillbilly and is a total God to me so thanks for that re-frame. Now when Nabbie calls me a hillbilly I will picture hillbilly bluesman Doc Watson and smile, thanks for that connection. I have a musician/historical preservationist buddy who is schooling me on the different types of bagpipes including smaller ones for more emotional expression, more similar to blues. I am good for a song or two of the we are coming to kick some British ass bagpipe songs and them I am looking for variety. It stays in two narrow a range like some rap music that doesn't include a chick breaking in at some point with some passionate higher frequency hollering. (Last Saturday SNL had ghostface killah using an opera singer in this role and it was fantastic despite his lackluster rapping skills. The contrast was amazing.) Thanks for the tip on Natalie MacMaster, I'll check her out. When I think of hillbilly...I think of bluegrass and The Darlins on Andy Griffith. ;) But, I also immediately thought of fiddles and bagpipes. I grew up in bluegrass country. A one of the local barbeque places (Sims in Dudley Shoals, NC), Doc Watson used to come in and play for free, no cover charge. He and some of his band would come on over when they wanted a bite to eat. They ate free and then they'd play for the local patrons. I tire of bluegrass rather quickly though. But I also tire of jazz and blues rather quickly. I need variety. I seldom tire of bagpipes or fiddles or flutes. I think it be in my Appalachia blood...them there fiddles and pipes. One of my favorite well-known fiddlers is Natalie MacMaster. As far as I know she ain't from Appalachia, but rather Canada. ;) Thanks for that snippet background of music history Curtis. Interesting. PS side note: Did you know that Appalachian Trail is now extending into Europe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Appalachian_Trail#Extension_to_Europe_and_North_Africa *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Oh you must be referring to Nabbie's comments. I'm always puzzled by him characterizing Mississippi delta blues as hillbilly music. To my thinking, that label would only apply to bluegrass and country. Yours is the more common distinction. The music of the hillbilly is shaped by Irish and Scottish folk music rather than black culture. They are almost direct opposites musically. I think he is using it as a euphemism for I don't like you. Growing up in the blues I made stronger distinctions between African American based blues and the white blues of say Hank Williams. In my recent research I am finding that there was more of a crossover between white and black cultures in music than I had realized, especially cowboy music. Black bluesmen were as crazy about cowboys as everyone else. When Alan Lomax went to record Muddy Waters before he went to Chicago in 1941 he knew more cowboy songs than blues songs! Alan only recorded his blues songs in that session which is kind of too bad. Tommy Johnson yodeled in his 1928 recording. I don't feel much affinity with the twang in their voices but the themes of the blues sure zoom forth in this song by Jimmy Davis who had a number one hit in '40 followed by Gene Autry's number one hit with the same song in '41. But check out the first verse for all the blues. Gene started with the chorus in his version, and it changes the blues vibe of the song completely. I play this in old folks homes, they love it. The other night, dear, As I lay sleeping I dreamed I held you in my arms. When I awoke, dear, I was mistaken And I hung my head and cried. You are my sunshine, My only sunshine. You make me happy When skies are grey. You'll never know, dear, How much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away. I'll always love you And make you happy If you will only say the same But if you leave me To love another You'll regret it all some day; You are my sunshine, My only sunshine. You make me happy When skies are grey. You'll never know, dear, How much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away. You told me once, dear
[FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
*chuckle* To me, hillbilly isn't a derogatory term. It's rich with culture. I love the Appalachia folk. I enjoy reading some of Dave Tabler's pennings. I mainly get his updates on FB which includes lots of photos. http://www.appalachianhistory.net/ Here's one of my favorite MacMaster tunes. I love the words in the song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYDNSUdn6k8 Cool about playing the bagpipes. I don't play them, just enjoy listening to them. I'd probably tire of them too if I heard them all the time. But, on the other hand, they are similar to a call of the wild. Doc Watsonnuther funny story. My mom was an encyclopedia salesperson for decades (Comptons and then Britannica). She was manager for western NC. She sold Doc his set of books. ;D He lived in Deep Gap (I think it was), which was about an hour from were I grew up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: But I also tire of jazz and blues rather quickly. OMG I am so suspending your favorite poster status! It is not possible to tire of blues ever. I've been playing it since I was 14 and I am ramping up even more these days after all these years. Oh wait I've been deep into Malian music again lately so please ignore the above, I was totally full of it, variety in music does in fact rock. Doc Watson was kind of a hillbilly and is a total God to me so thanks for that re-frame. Now when Nabbie calls me a hillbilly I will picture hillbilly bluesman Doc Watson and smile, thanks for that connection. I have a musician/historical preservationist buddy who is schooling me on the different types of bagpipes including smaller ones for more emotional expression, more similar to blues. I am good for a song or two of the we are coming to kick some British ass bagpipe songs and them I am looking for variety. It stays in two narrow a range like some rap music that doesn't include a chick breaking in at some point with some passionate higher frequency hollering. (Last Saturday SNL had ghostface killah using an opera singer in this role and it was fantastic despite his lackluster rapping skills. The contrast was amazing.) Thanks for the tip on Natalie MacMaster, I'll check her out. When I think of hillbilly...I think of bluegrass and The Darlins on Andy Griffith. ;) But, I also immediately thought of fiddles and bagpipes. I grew up in bluegrass country. A one of the local barbeque places (Sims in Dudley Shoals, NC), Doc Watson used to come in and play for free, no cover charge. He and some of his band would come on over when they wanted a bite to eat. They ate free and then they'd play for the local patrons. I tire of bluegrass rather quickly though. But I also tire of jazz and blues rather quickly. I need variety. I seldom tire of bagpipes or fiddles or flutes. I think it be in my Appalachia blood...them there fiddles and pipes. One of my favorite well-known fiddlers is Natalie MacMaster. As far as I know she ain't from Appalachia, but rather Canada. ;) Thanks for that snippet background of music history Curtis. Interesting. PS side note: Did you know that Appalachian Trail is now extending into Europe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Appalachian_Trail#Extension_to_Europe_and_North_Africa *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Oh you must be referring to Nabbie's comments. I'm always puzzled by him characterizing Mississippi delta blues as hillbilly music. To my thinking, that label would only apply to bluegrass and country. Yours is the more common distinction. The music of the hillbilly is shaped by Irish and Scottish folk music rather than black culture. They are almost direct opposites musically. I think he is using it as a euphemism for I don't like you. Growing up in the blues I made stronger distinctions between African American based blues and the white blues of say Hank Williams. In my recent research I am finding that there was more of a crossover between white and black cultures in music than I had realized, especially cowboy music. Black bluesmen were as crazy about cowboys as everyone else. When Alan Lomax went to record Muddy Waters before he went to Chicago in 1941 he knew more cowboy songs than blues songs! Alan only recorded his blues songs in that session which is kind of too bad. Tommy Johnson yodeled in his 1928 recording. I don't feel much affinity with the twang in their voices but the themes of the blues sure zoom
[FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
seventhray is a carry over from the time (the few months I spent with The Saint Germain Foundation here is St. Louis)and also some of the literature I've read regarding the Ascended Masters. Now before MJ wets his pants with another (tired) tirade about Guy and Edna Ballard, or the fantasy of the Ascended Masters, it's nothing I really think about anymore, but I simply liked the concept of the seventhray. Well okay, the whole concept of Saint Germain, and the Ascended Masters is something I still keep in the back of my mind. Naturally it isn't anything I would bring up here because, you know, you bring this stuff here at your own risk. Plus, anything thoughts I have about it are quite personal. I wanted to be seventhray1, but it was taken. For a while I was seventhray2, but that ID got messed up when I changed my e-mail, so I just went with seventhray27 Ah, Roller Ball, aka Indian Ball. A couple years ago, we had a family whose house burned down in a predominantly black part of town, and their insurance payed for them to move into our neighborhood, (not that it's exclusive or anything, but its a historic neighborhood with many large homes settled by the wealthy German population who settled here. (Our home is quite a bit smaller, the original home having been destroyed in the 1900 tornado, and a smaller house built in it's place. Anyway there were about 6 kids living in that house who had never played any baseball, so that summer and fall, (before they moved back), I had fun teaching them how to ride a bike and playing catch, and hitting and throwing, riding a scooter, along with my kids of course. Good times! http://comptonheights.org/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@... wrote: Those were part of our rules, seventhray. What does seventhray stand for, if you don't mind me asking? Well, I guess I'll ask about significance of 27 also? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: There was also a version where at some point, someone would lay the bat down, and someone else would roll the ball in, and if it hit the bat and bounced up, and you were able to catch the ball on the bounce, you won that round,or got some points. But I can't remember the name of that game. So, when you say roller ball that also comes to mind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Seventhray...it is Indian Ball. I don't recall ever learning about that. Thank you. Share...fascinating about cellular memory/response and the skin cells. Do you know if this experiment was duplicated? I wonder if any responses are dependent on other factors such as individual's constitution or how much time the cells are detached from the body. This brings to mind Donna Eden's book on Energy Medicine and one of her accounts regarding an amputated finger. I'd have to look up the details now, but it seems their was communication between the finger and the hand from which it was amputated. I know energy medicine is controversial and some (most?) scientists tout it as pseudo science. One day maybe we will have the mechanisms for more reliable hard data. Regardless, once a person experiences something, it's difficult for one to deny that experience and remain stable. I mean, to deny it can produce a cognitive dissonance which can eventually be detrimental to one's well being. I think of one of Audubon's quotes: When the bird and the book disagree, always believe the bird. [But I'd take out the word always. ;) ] I posted in another FFL thread about Paul Pearsall. I think I posted about his interviews with organ transplant patients and the cellular memory transferred to the patient. Patients (at least at the time the book was written) could not know who their donors were for one year; yet, the patients had picked up words and/or memories and/or certain behaviors and tastes that the patient didn't have previous to receiving their new organ. Come to learn a year later, that those changes coincided with their donors' memories/tastes/words/etc. Life sure is complex and rich. I was updating my poetry archive last night. It was fun reading through poems I've penned in the last 4 years. One piece reminded me of how so much life surrounds us every moment of every day; life is everywhere. And the seeds of life...such an abundance of seeds. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: I think it's what we used to call Indian Ball http://www.stlmag.com/St-Louis-Magazine/July-2008/What-the-Is-Indian-Ball/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Hi Carol, I always played slow pitch so I doubt I could even hit one of those fast pitches! I don't
[FairfieldLife] Re: Will LBS soon publish the words of Guru DEV? Some stand ready 2 assist him in that!!
Share Long: Also, if consciousness is the only reality, then how can everything else be an appearance? Asking the important questions. George Gurdjieff taught that man is asleep and he needs to wake up. It this is true one might ask, 'How do I know if I am dreaming or not?' People sometimes dream of waking up and addressing their friends, like Socrates did with his allegory of the cave. In the waking state we can consult our friends; we can run and jump; doors are door and tables are tables. However, if there is nothing in the waking state about which we cannot dream, and if dreams seem real, then what assurance do we have that we are not dreaming now? In dreams we can consult our friends; we can run and jump; doors are door and tables are tables. Chuang Tsu said: I dreamt I was a butterfly and then I woke up. As I lay there, I asked myself 'Am I a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or am I a butterfly dreaming I is a man?' For every test that one can propose for testing one's awake state, one can say that it is possible to dream it. Therefore, we must admit that we cannot prove that we are awake any better than a dreamer can prove dreaming. So, I have a check for one dollar in my wallet for anyone who can prove that he is not dreaming, either by using science, logic, sense perception, or by any other means. In reality, we are living a vida maya loka. LoL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Health Advisory
Some FFL people post more at the beginning of the week. I like to post more later in the week. So I tend to save posts, both those I enjoy and those that I get upset about. I'm reconsidering if postponing replying is good for the latter category. And just to repeat that I enjoy that there are all different kinds of writing styles and posting patterns here. It would be less enjoyable if there were only one kind of wave to surf (-: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Health Advisory Speaking in my capacity as a former health and medicine writer (and I still write such articles, when the topics interest me), I feel obliged to warn FFLers of a disease which seems to have appeared here early this posting week. I am speaking, of course, of Wordvomititis. It is a viral disease similar to -- and often misdiagnosed as -- Wordflooditis, because the two share similar symptoms. However, whereas Wordflooditis presents itself as a seem- ingly never-ending stream of words, similar to uncontrolled drooling, Wordvomititis is more projectile in nature, and involves not just drooling out large volumes of bile, but spewing them out forcefully, similar to Regan's pea- soup projectile vomiting in The Exorcist. Indeed, the comparison may be apt, because the other major difference between the drool of Wordflooditis and the spew of Wordvomitis is the latter's putrescence. It is almost as if the Wordvomititis sufferer *saves up* his or her bile for several days (in extreme cases for years) before puking it out. This gives the resulting spew the undeniable stench that is the primary indication of the Wordvomititis virus. Wordvomititis also differs from Wordflooditis in that the former is communicable. One can actually attempt to read the latter without contracting the disease oneself, but reading -- and certainly replying to -- a large puddle of Wordvomit will pass the virus along to the hapless reader, and the disease may become pandemic, spreading to all who touch it or come into contact with it. Your best bet, if you wish to remain free of this virus, is to remain wary and avoid the puddles of Wordvomit just as you might avoid piles of dogshit on Paris streets. Stepping in them will only expose you to the virus, make you as smelly as the thing you stepped in, and result in increasing your risk of contracting the disease yourself.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Indiana Jones and the Search for the Paris Apartment
If the rental agency and or agent never or rarely do that behavior again, then that is a form of making amends that would benefit a lot of people. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:25 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Indiana Jones and the Search for the Paris Apartment Thanks. I know about all those places and publications. It really shouldn't be a big problem finding an apartment; I was just venting over the actions of one particularly arrogant and clueless realtor. How desperately the agency in question has been trying to call me to make amends is an indication of how clueless even they felt she was. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: Hey turquoiseB don't be afraid to shop around! Agencies don't usually have exclusive rights to a property, and you may find the same property in another window or homepage so it's worth looking around as one agent may charge less than the other and there is an increasingly competitive home services market developing in France and there are some excellent deals to be had if you shop around. Because there is no central real estate database in Paris, individuals often need to do a lot of leg work (or hire someone to do it for them) A good place to look for apartments that don't carry an agency fee is the weekly publication De Particulier a Particulier http://www.pap.fr/annonce/locations an excellent source for independent owners to sell or rent their property. Also try FUSAC, a monthly English language collection of advertisements which includes a large selection of apartments for rent or sale http://www.fusac.fr/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Nab, I think that it's furnished. It's in Paris. And it's nicely appointed. I think it's pretty reasonable. Thanks for your balanced feedback, Edg. This IS, after all, Paris, one of the most overpriced real estate markets on the planet. Such prices for this square- meterage are -- sadly -- not considered outrageous. Also, in France there is a *serious* legal distinction between renting an unfurnished apartment and a furnished one. Have you ever seen the film Pacific Heights? The reason for this distinction is captured in that film, based on the real-life exploits of a real estate scammer in California. He made a career out of moving into rental properties, then abusing both the owners and the other tenants, and -- by taking advantage of California laws -- ending up suing the owners and being awarded their properties as a result. He pulled this scam off dozens of times before he was caught. In France, it is fairly easy to remove a non-paying renter from a furnished apartment, because of the way the laws are structured. On the other hand, it is near-impossible to evict a tenant from a non-furnished apartment, for the same arcane legal reasons. Therefore, no sane landlord ever rents a property non-furnished. However, the issue I am addressing is the *real estate scumbags* who take advantage of this situation to impose discriminatory policies on renters. There is no sane reason -- even legally -- to require renters to pay an entire year's rent in advance, but they do it. And for some reason I don't understand, ex-pats moving to Paris *put up with this shit*, so it perpetuates. I sent the dialog I posted to FFL to the agency that tried to pull this shit on me, mentioning that I had written it so that I could post it widely on the Internet to warn people away from their agency. They panicked, and have been emailing me madly asking me to call them and discuss it. Clearly, I am one of the first people they have dealt with who refused to put up with such a discriminatory policy. If it works out (I'm still interested in the apartment, even if it is a fourth-floor walkup), I'll keep people updated here. In my mind, this is remarkably similar to the horseshit we discuss here endlessly about the TMO. If someone had just stood up for themselves and said, What you are saying is legal discrimination and unethical and not only am I not going to roll over and submit to it, I'm going to raise a stink, the situation would not have become as sad and embarrassing as it has.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
Yeah, Buck, I was thinking about Colleen this morning, noticing not seeing her walking down the Dome center aisle as she did every morning and evening til Thursday. One day we're here and the next day we're not. Definitely a wake up call. Carpe diem. From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 6:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
Thanks, Carol, this has got to be one of the very wonderful developments on our sweet planet, that the Appalachian Trail is extending overseas. From: Carol jchwe...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight! When I think of hillbilly...I think of bluegrass and The Darlins on Andy Griffith. ;) But, I also immediately thought of fiddles and bagpipes. I grew up in bluegrass country. A one of the local barbeque places (Sims in Dudley Shoals, NC), Doc Watson used to come in and play for free, no cover charge. He and some of his band would come on over when they wanted a bite to eat. They ate free and then they'd play for the local patrons. I tire of bluegrass rather quickly though. But I also tire of jazz and blues rather quickly. I need variety. I seldom tire of bagpipes or fiddles or flutes. I think it be in my Appalachia blood...them there fiddles and pipes. One of my favorite well-known fiddlers is Natalie MacMaster. As far as I know she ain't from Appalachia, but rather Canada. ;) Thanks for that snippet background of music history Curtis. Interesting. PS side note: Did you know that Appalachian Trail is now extending into Europe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Appalachian_Trail#Extension_to_Europe_and_North_Africa *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Oh you must be referring to Nabbie's comments. I'm always puzzled by him characterizing Mississippi delta blues as hillbilly music. To my thinking, that label would only apply to bluegrass and country. Yours is the more common distinction. The music of the hillbilly is shaped by Irish and Scottish folk music rather than black culture. They are almost direct opposites musically. I think he is using it as a euphemism for I don't like you. Growing up in the blues I made stronger distinctions between African American based blues and the white blues of say Hank Williams. In my recent research I am finding that there was more of a crossover between white and black cultures in music than I had realized, especially cowboy music. Black bluesmen were as crazy about cowboys as everyone else. When Alan Lomax went to record Muddy Waters before he went to Chicago in 1941 he knew more cowboy songs than blues songs! Alan only recorded his blues songs in that session which is kind of too bad. Tommy Johnson yodeled in his 1928 recording. I don't feel much affinity with the twang in their voices but the themes of the blues sure zoom forth in this song by Jimmy Davis who had a number one hit in '40 followed by Gene Autry's number one hit with the same song in '41. But check out the first verse for all the blues. Gene started with the chorus in his version, and it changes the blues vibe of the song completely. I play this in old folks homes, they love it. The other night, dear, As I lay sleeping I dreamed I held you in my arms. When I awoke, dear, I was mistaken And I hung my head and cried. You are my sunshine, My only sunshine. You make me happy When skies are grey. You'll never know, dear, How much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away. I'll always love you And make you happy If you will only say the same But if you leave me To love another You'll regret it all some day; You are my sunshine, My only sunshine. You make me happy When skies are grey. You'll never know, dear, How much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away. You told me once, dear You really loved me And no one else could come between But now you've left me And love another You have shattered all my dreams; You are my sunshine, My only sunshine. You make me happy When skies are grey. You'll never know, dear, How much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, And if you read these books it appears, also, for the dead (but not gone). -Buck in the Dome When the mind, through the practice of transcendental meditation, rises to the state of cosmic consciousness, absolute Field becomes permanently established in the nature of the mind, and it attains the state of Unified Field, the universal state of Being. Then the mind finds itself on a level of life from which all the gross and subtle levels of creation can be stimulated, controlled and commanded.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, And if you read these books it appears, also, for the dead (but not gone). -Buck in the Dome When the mind, through the practice of transcendental meditation, rises to the state of cosmic consciousness, absolute Field becomes permanently established in the nature of the mind, and it attains the state of Unified Field, the universal state of Being. Then the mind finds itself on a level of life from which all the gross and subtle levels of creation can be stimulated, controlled and commanded. It's a wonderful thing in Fairfield having the campus radio station to listen to. I came out of the Dome meditation this morning and there was this above discussion from the Gita on the truck radio as me and my farm sheep dog drove along. It's true. -Buck, at home and out standing in his Field
[FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:11 AM, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: I've heard that one game of cricket can go on for hours and hours! Five days for a proper international match. Then again, the golfers at the Masters will be playing for four days. But you will at least have a result. Very often a five day cricket match will end in a draw. Five or so hours with a break for tea and cakes is par for the course for a friendly match between pub teams. Hey how about T20 - do you watch IPL? There aren't many English players around this season - of course KP's injured, he was in Delhi the other day cheering his team - I saw Eoin Morgan playing. I've seen a bit of T20 on the TV - but not live. Very dramatic I expect. Have you played much Ravi? It was my main sport in my youth. I wonder...I can imagine you as perhaps a left arm quickie. Maybe a whippy action off quite a short run? Bowling over the wicket you'd be slanting it across the orthodox right-hander, perhaps creating a little doubt in their mind as they reach to play or leave just outside the off stump in the 'corridor of uncertainty'. And maybe trying to get the odd one to hit the seam hard, rear alarmingly, and come back in at them? Just the thing to dislodge a stone-walling opening pair who are starting to look a bit too comfortable at the crease.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
Eternal Freedom, it's a wonderful thing. The fact is it can take some spiritual discipline to get there from here, as in a life well lived. From the Gita somewhere: Disciplined people, freed from [attachments], who have disciplined their thoughts and have realized the Unified Field, find eternal freedom in divine consciousness everywhere. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, And if you read these books it appears, also, for the dead (but not gone). -Buck in the Dome When the mind, through the practice of transcendental meditation, rises to the state of cosmic consciousness, absolute Field becomes permanently established in the nature of the mind, and it attains the state of Unified Field, the universal state of Being. Then the mind finds itself on a level of life from which all the gross and subtle levels of creation can be stimulated, controlled and commanded. It's a wonderful thing in Fairfield having the campus radio station to listen to. I came out of the Dome meditation this morning and there was this above discussion from the Gita on the truck radio as me and my farm sheep dog drove along. It's true. -Buck, at home and out standing in his Field
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Eternal Freedom, it's a wonderful thing. The fact is it can take some spiritual discipline to get there from here, as in a life well lived. From the Gita somewhere: Disciplined people, freed from [attachments], who have disciplined their thoughts and have realized the Unified Field, find eternal freedom in divine consciousness everywhere. There's a beautiful hymn from the Christian tradition about this Unified Field thing on earth as it is in heaven: In the Unified Field- Salvation, Om the joyful sound! 'Tis pleasure to my ears; A sov'reign balm for ev'ry wound, A cordial for our fears. Buried in sorrow and in sin At hell's dark door we lay; But we arise by grace divine To see a heav'nly day. Salvation! Let the echo fly The spacious earth around; While all the armies of the sky Conspire to raise the sound. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, And if you read these books it appears, also, for the dead (but not gone). -Buck in the Dome When the mind, through the practice of transcendental meditation, rises to the state of cosmic consciousness, absolute Field becomes permanently established in the nature of the mind, and it attains the state of Unified Field, the universal state of Being. Then the mind finds itself on a level of life from which all the gross and subtle levels of creation can be stimulated, controlled and commanded. It's a wonderful thing in Fairfield having the campus radio station to listen to. I came out of the Dome meditation this morning and there was this above discussion from the Gita on the truck radio as me and my farm sheep dog drove along. It's true. -Buck, at home and out standing in his Field
[FairfieldLife] Re: Google Fiber
So, I wonder when you're going to get up to speed. LoL! Bhairitu: Up to speed for what? For innovative instructional technology? They say that information is power and power to the people. In states where online education has made headway, often via laws that make room for charter schools, local and state teachers unions have filed lawsuits and pushed legislation to place strict caps on charter school enrollment, close virtual schools altogether, andin a rather spectacular display of purposeful obtuseness about how the Internet worksto limit enrollment to students who live in the district in which the online school is based. 'Will Teachers Unions Kill Virtual Learning?' Reason.com: http://tinyurl.com/chmf9hj 'Google Fiber Expands TV, Internet to Austin, Texas' http://tinyurl.com/ccgadh7 http://tinyurl.com/ccgadh7
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Ah, the bracing astringency of the Internet forum, like a chemical peal for the inside of my skull. Peel, not peal. Reading this was a great Rosarch test for where I am at these days. Part of me wants to run around and prove what I believe are inaccurate statements, knowingly or unknowingly made. But that is not going to happen. It's not going to happen because there are no inaccurate statements in what I wrote. *Of course* Curtis isn't going to even try, as I predicted to start with. Most of what I see is of the interpretive variety, where a person's motives or internal processes are being opinionated about. I do this too. So all of that is going to hit the don't give a shit, have a nice day can. Judy is welcome to her opinions and even what I consider distorted facts here, and people who dig her perspective are welcome to high five her for them. There are no distorted facts in what I wrote. Most of what Curtis wrote to Barry of the interpretive variety is based on his or Barry's *factual falsehoods*. Once those have been exposed and the *facts* brought out, the interpretations they're based on no longer hold water. Curtis can't address one without also addressing the other, and he can't challenge the facts, obviously, so he's stuck. For instance, Curtis's interpretive statement holding that Ann's purported cautiousness about interacting directly with [Robin] was evidence that she had not resolved her issues with him is refuted by the *fact* that Robin and Ann began a private correspondence right after she first posted here. People who tend to see things my way don't need me to run around and connect any dots. They know the Judy deal. Right. Just believe what Curtis tells you; don't bother to check out the evidence that he has a tendency not to tell the truth. So everything is fine as it is except for one thing thatI do want to comment about because it concerns something important to me. Judy: Robin used that hilarious icky sex metaphor because he knew it would freak Curtis out. Curtis has a well- established history of going ballistic whenever he thinks a hostile suggestion is being made that he's gay (even when the suggestion was actually made about somebody else, as in one very funny incident not too long ago). Couple things. Robin was not suggesting that I was gay by saying that he made me cum. He was just escalating the ickiness to provoke a reaction. I'll just leave this for folks to contemplate. What *else* could Robin have been suggesting? (hint about the distinction between homo erotic references and expressions of bromance, if semen leaves anyone's body, it is no longer in the bromance catagory.) Of course, I never suggested otherwise, contrary to Curtis's implication here. I was making the same distinction Curtis does above, just not so explicitly. Robin's parting remark to Curtis was most definitely homoerotic, but it was *hostile*, as opposed to the homoerotic references and expressions they sometimes exchanged before their dialogues turned ugly. Those references and expressions were all in quite obvious jest on both their parts (although none of them went anywhere near as far in the icky direction as Robin's last remark to Curtis). They were lighthearted and friendly and self-deprecating, not about dominance and power as Curtis claimed: It shows that Share was brilliant in her use of the term psychological rape because Robin was using an icky sex metaphor for power, not sex. He repeated it twice because this image delights him. He has used homo-erotic imagery a lot in our discussions and it is always about dominance and power. Robin's last remark to Curtis, which made brilliant fun of Curtis, made Curtis squirm in fury and embarrassment. In the paragraph I quoted immediately above, Curtis was attempting to get back at Robin. But he failed spectacularly because he couldn't do so honestly. The important point to take away is that power and dominance are major issues for Curtis, but not for Robin. Secondly, I do not have a history of going ballistic when someone actually suggests I am gay because this has never happened here, and if it did I wouldn't care. Of course, Curtis *thought* it had happened and cared very much about it: What was my grievous offense, that might deserve this stretching of the boundaries of propriety on a public board? And why should I be the target since I had nothing whatsoever to do with this discussion? Curtis was never the target. Barry was the target. (Although people who know me realize that if I was gay, it would not be subtle, I would be very obviously and vocally gay.) Curtis goes on to attempt to reframe the issue with Jim, to make his near-hysterical objections at the time appear not to have been personal but humanitarian: What I have taken exception to is using
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a blue world, back into a green one
Thanks! YES! More than exceeded my expectations, from every angle. It was equal parts, adventurous, disruptive, seductive, and colorful, so very very fun, and informative! Also, every turn inside the ship or out, was a postcard view. If I can figure out how to post a link to my photos, I will - took around 800 good ones. An instant memory of a lifetime. It was a sedate, refined environment, with the demographic centered around 50 or so, some older, and a lot younger too. And it is an incredibly huge and varied space on the vessel, beautifully designed, so crowd, or quiet, is a choice, vs. a scramble. We surprised ourselves by never going to the formal dining rooms - the food was so good, so varied, and so plentiful everywhere else, that there was no need to. There is an excellent library on board, and I actually had the time to read a book, with real paper pages, cover to cover. Best drink was a Beverly Hills Ice Tea; vodka, rum, tequila, gin, citrus, and sparkling wine (US$7.95). My tolerance is pretty good, though the one I had took me two hours (!) to finish, which wasn't a bad thing. Didn't drink a lot at the bars on board or otherwise, and the tequila price, for value, we can get at the local Costco, is competitive with that sold at a tequila factory we visited, outside Puerto Vallarta. We still drank the obligatory samples of course. Among some truly beautiful and amazing purchases, I also picked up a t-shirt in Cabo that tastefully queries, Where the fuck was I last night? - Cabo San Lucas, Mexico. I saw it in a shop window on the pier as we were leaving for our excursion, tastefully in black and white. On the way back, some of the stores had closed, but this one was open! My wife has vowed to never be seen in public, with me wearing it - not sure yet if *I* want to be seen in public, with me wearing it... When I made the arrangements four months ago, I envisioned this cruise as a portal, from my old life, mostly work-based, with its rigid schedules, and quick rates of achievement, to my new life, where the grid of responsibilities has largely been replaced by simple expediency, wants and needs. My labor/leisure ratio has gone from 75/25, to about 20/80. So far, so good, and we really want to do this again, or perhaps a train ride next. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: Welcome back. I was thinking about you out there on the ocean somewhere. Was it as wonderful as you had hoped? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Loved the ocean, and experienced all of her, sunny days where an hour gets you a deep tan, to thudding through thirty foot waves on the way home. 3,000 miles in ten days, with 2,600 passengers. The first song is called Princess At Sea. Same fleet as the original Love Boat - kept asking for Captain Stueben, to no avail. Didn't see Ike either...Started composing this on deck one morning around 5:30: https://www.box.com/s/x99kl70nh60gjkydg2st copyright temple dog The next song is called Princess In Port. Impressions. Visited Catalina Island, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo San Lucas, and San Diego, then back to SF: https://www.box.com/s/ukuw1b766qcefwa856uk copyright temple dog The voyage is like one fluid set of hatha yoga exercises, always reacting subtly, with every muscle, to the waves and wind, gently and cleanly moving assumptions of the physical world aside. Very much a journey back through time for me, too, as my father was working in Mexico when I was born near San Diego. Many of the crew were from The Philippines and Indonesia, where I grew up, so it was easy to start a conversation that way.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
On 04/13/2013 04:56 AM, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, -Buck in the Dome Two things: of course many of us are getting old. We aren't spring chickens anymore, we're the elderly though we ain't our grandmother's style of elderly which is another thing that American marketing seems to have trouble with: Rock 'n Roll senior citizens. And two, IMHO I don't think we're going to live as long as we thought or was projected. I think our lives might have been a little shortened by the poor quality food and trends we grew up with as kids. I look at the small kitchen in this house and wonder why they built them like that in 1960s and think nobody cooked, they ate TV dinners and pizzas because those were the rage at the time. And I recall the wincing reaction by many when MMY said eat what your mother puts before you because many had mother who were terrible cooks. By the time many of us switched to more healthful eating habits the damage had been done. Our parents and older siblings had to live through the Great Depression which might have toughened them enough to live longer. And then some got a Mercedes body while many of us got a Chevy and maybe even some a Yugo. It takes a lot of work to keep the maintenance up. But one thing you should at least be taking away from TM is any fear of death. You practice for that every night when you go to sleep. The only thing we can best do is hope we don't have a painful or prolonged death.
[FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
I think it is pretty cool too. :) BTW: I have used EFT in the past. I can't say it helped me and I didn't stick with it. I did get help from just quieting myself to perform the EFT. At the time I used it, I was seeing a holistic counselor who integrates traditional therapy (like cognitive behavioral) and alternative approaches. I know a couple folks that swear by EFT. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Carol, this has got to be one of the very wonderful developments on our sweet planet, that the Appalachian Trail is extending overseas. From: Carol jchwelch@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!  When I think of hillbilly...I think of bluegrass and The Darlins on Andy Griffith. ;) But, I also immediately thought of fiddles and bagpipes. I grew up in bluegrass country. A one of the local barbeque places (Sims in Dudley Shoals, NC), Doc Watson used to come in and play for free, no cover charge. He and some of his band would come on over when they wanted a bite to eat. They ate free and then they'd play for the local patrons. I tire of bluegrass rather quickly though. But I also tire of jazz and blues rather quickly. I need variety. I seldom tire of bagpipes or fiddles or flutes. I think it be in my Appalachia blood...them there fiddles and pipes. One of my favorite well-known fiddlers is Natalie MacMaster. As far as I know she ain't from Appalachia, but rather Canada. ;) Thanks for that snippet background of music history Curtis. Interesting. PS side note: Did you know that Appalachian Trail is now extending into Europe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Appalachian_Trail#Extension_to_Europe_and_North_Africa *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Oh you must be referring to Nabbie's comments. I'm always puzzled by him characterizing Mississippi delta blues as hillbilly music. To my thinking, that label would only apply to bluegrass and country. Yours is the more common distinction. The music of the hillbilly is shaped by Irish and Scottish folk music rather than black culture. They are almost direct opposites musically. I think he is using it as a euphemism for I don't like you. Growing up in the blues I made stronger distinctions between African American based blues and the white blues of say Hank Williams. In my recent research I am finding that there was more of a crossover between white and black cultures in music than I had realized, especially cowboy music. Black bluesmen were as crazy about cowboys as everyone else. When Alan Lomax went to record Muddy Waters before he went to Chicago in 1941 he knew more cowboy songs than blues songs! Alan only recorded his blues songs in that session which is kind of too bad. Tommy Johnson yodeled in his 1928 recording. I don't feel much affinity with the twang in their voices but the themes of the blues sure zoom forth in this song by Jimmy Davis who had a number one hit in '40 followed by Gene Autry's number one hit with the same song in '41. But check out the first verse for all the blues. Gene started with the chorus in his version, and it changes the blues vibe of the song completely. I play this in old folks homes, they love it. The other night, dear, As I lay sleeping I dreamed I held you in my arms. When I awoke, dear, I was mistaken And I hung my head and cried. You are my sunshine, My only sunshine. You make me happy When skies are grey. You'll never know, dear, How much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away. I'll always love you And make you happy If you will only say the same But if you leave me To love another You'll regret it all some day; You are my sunshine, My only sunshine. You make me happy When skies are grey. You'll never know, dear, How much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away. You told me once, dear You really loved me And no one else could come between But now you've left me And love another You have shattered all my dreams; You are my sunshine, My only sunshine. You make me happy When skies are grey. You'll never know, dear, How much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Google Fiber
On 04/13/2013 08:20 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: So, I wonder when you're going to get up to speed. LoL! Bhairitu: Up to speed for what? For innovative instructional technology? But you don't need really high bandwidth for that. Around 12 mbps will do. Nice to have higher bandwidths but then much of the time that becomes a marketing thing. Even at around 10 mbps I'm seeing near Bluray quality video on Netflix. That makes Comcast look shoddy. Fiber is fiber. Sonic.net built fiber in the nearby town of Sebastopol probably because ATT hadn't tied it up. The Internet is now as important as any highway and like our interstate highways belong in the commons not in the hands of some sleazy old men in business suits. When communities in North Carolina started building community fiber the telecom bought off Republicans in their state government got a law passed against it. What a crime! The telecoms are today's bandits. They say that information is power and power to the people. In states where online education has made headway, often via laws that make room for charter schools, local and state teachers unions have filed lawsuits and pushed legislation to place strict caps on charter school enrollment, close virtual schools altogether, and—in a rather spectacular display of purposeful obtuseness about how the Internet works—to limit enrollment to students who live in the district in which the online school is based. 'Will Teachers Unions Kill Virtual Learning?' Reason.com: http://tinyurl.com/chmf9hj 'Google Fiber Expands TV, Internet to Austin, Texas' http://tinyurl.com/ccgadh7 http://tinyurl.com/ccgadh7 To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 04/13/2013 04:56 AM, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, -Buck in the Dome Two things: of course many of us are getting old. We aren't spring chickens anymore, we're the elderly though we ain't our grandmother's style of elderly which is another thing that American marketing seems to have trouble with: Rock 'n Roll senior citizens. And two, IMHO I don't think we're going to live as long as we thought or was projected. snip But one thing you should at least be taking away from TM is any fear of death. You practice for that every night when you go to sleep. The only thing we can best do is hope we don't have a painful or prolonged death. Son, Death, like an overflowing stream, Sweeps us away; our life's a dream, An empty tale, a morning flow'r, Cut down and wither'd in an hour. Our age to [sev'nty] years is set; How short the time! How frail the state! And if to [eighty] we arrive, We'd rather sigh and groan than live. Teach us, Om Unified Field, how frail is man; And kindly lengthen out the span, Till a wise care of piety Fit us to die and dwell with Thee.
[FairfieldLife] The cult that failed
The CW TV series Cult has been canceled. And here I was just getting interested to see what was going to happen between Billy Grimm (Robert Knepper) and Charlie Jade (Jeffery Pierce). Grimm was the cult leader character of a fictional TV series in the series and Jeffery Pierce who played Charlie Jade in the sci-fi series of the same name played a new rich guy character (who maybe was the mysterious creator of the fictional series). Nobody knows where the remaining episodes will go. The show kind of lumbered along and started losing viewers. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/04/10/cult-canceled-by-cw-and-replaced-by-oh-sit-and-the-carrie-diaries-reruns/177335/ OTOH, I missed the second episode of Hannibal because I had not set the DVR for recording all new episodes. So I had to catch up on it via Comcast's OnDemand putting up with the commercials. Well not quite, I tried the 5 minute skip they have so you can quickly get to a part of a show. Since they disable fast forward on some shows and did this one you can't just fast forward past commercials so when a commercial break begins I hit the 5 minute skip button (the chapter button) and then back up to where the rating block appears in the upper left corner. Condense that 60 minute show down to 44 minutes of show only. And very much worth doing because I'm presently surprised with Hannibal. Plays more like a European series than as US series or even a Canadian one. A bit gory and even some nudity in it. Wow, maybe something good from Comcast buying NBC? I'll keep watching. Buck won't.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brooklyn
Dear FFL Moderators, please put these last two posts on an illicit 'watch'. This could be the camel's nose under the tent like some other people have tried here in the past. Like, Why is this person posting pictures of young people on a public spiritual forum with no comment otherwise. Like, what do these pictures have to do with Fairfield and meditating? Are these young people meditators? Is the person posting even a meditator? Eternal vigilance is the price of our freedoms here, -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Brooklyn Decker, actress, model: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1057600256/nm2395937
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brooklyn
Probably because the poster is bored with all the adolescent chatter that passes for posts on FFL. :-D On 04/13/2013 09:53 AM, Buck wrote: Dear FFL Moderators, please put these last two posts on an illicit 'watch'. This could be the camel's nose under the tent like some other people have tried here in the past. Like, Why is this person posting pictures of young people on a public spiritual forum with no comment otherwise. Like, what do these pictures have to do with Fairfield and meditating? Are these young people meditators? Is the person posting even a meditator? Eternal vigilance is the price of our freedoms here, -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Brooklyn Decker, actress, model: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1057600256/nm2395937
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Yeah, Buck, I was thinking about Colleen this morning, noticing not seeing her walking down the Dome center aisle as she did every morning and evening til Thursday. One day we're here and the next day we're not. Definitely a wake up call. Carpe diem. Dear Share, Yep, carp diem baby; Normally meditating in the Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge is a fabulous field effect for activating the subtle spiritual structures of the neurophysiology. I was sitting in the Unified Field there this morning having a nice effective and activated transcending meditation but also noticing that the nature of the Field effect phase transitioning there was not so strong this morning in luster and actually the field effect was in fact quite generally dull. When I finished my meditation and stood up to leave and go out to finish chores out on the farm I turned around there and found a whole bunch of people laying slouched back in their seats nicely snoozing. Jeeezuus X-mas, no wonder. This seems to be a problem again coming back as of late. Poor discipline once again creeping in. Really the Dome overseers would do a lot to improve the group meditation for everyone if they'ed serve Lipton [caffeinated] tea or coffee generally for people as folks would arrive and come in to the morning meditation. That one thing would make for a huge improvement in world consciousness. -Buck From: Buck To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 6:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] In Memoriam, Frieda Gratzon
Frieda Gratzon passed away this morning in Fairfield,Ia. Long time meditator and activist in life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
Carol, I used to have high pressure on optic nerves, pre glaucoma. Suddenly my pressures dropped to the normal range, no eye drops involved. I am convinced daily EFT tapping contributed to the change because it increased circulation around the eyes. And when I was losing weight and had a sugar craving, tapping the heels of my hands together got rid of the craving. So I continue to do a little EFT every day, if only to keep my eyes healthy. It's interesting how different methods help different people. Or the same person but not all time. From: Carol jchwe...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 11:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight! I think it is pretty cool too. :) BTW: I have used EFT in the past. I can't say it helped me and I didn't stick with it. I did get help from just quieting myself to perform the EFT. At the time I used it, I was seeing a holistic counselor who integrates traditional therapy (like cognitive behavioral) and alternative approaches. I know a couple folks that swear by EFT. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Carol, this has got to be one of the very wonderful developments on our sweet planet, that the Appalachian Trail is extending overseas. From: Carol jchwelch@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!  When I think of hillbilly...I think of bluegrass and The Darlins on Andy Griffith. ;) But, I also immediately thought of fiddles and bagpipes. I grew up in bluegrass country. A one of the local barbeque places (Sims in Dudley Shoals, NC), Doc Watson used to come in and play for free, no cover charge. He and some of his band would come on over when they wanted a bite to eat. They ate free and then they'd play for the local patrons. I tire of bluegrass rather quickly though. But I also tire of jazz and blues rather quickly. I need variety. I seldom tire of bagpipes or fiddles or flutes. I think it be in my Appalachia blood...them there fiddles and pipes. One of my favorite well-known fiddlers is Natalie MacMaster. As far as I know she ain't from Appalachia, but rather Canada. ;) Thanks for that snippet background of music history Curtis. Interesting. PS side note: Did you know that Appalachian Trail is now extending into Europe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Appalachian_Trail#Extension_to_Europe_and_North_Africa *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Oh you must be referring to Nabbie's comments. I'm always puzzled by him characterizing Mississippi delta blues as hillbilly music. To my thinking, that label would only apply to bluegrass and country. Yours is the more common distinction. The music of the hillbilly is shaped by Irish and Scottish folk music rather than black culture. They are almost direct opposites musically. I think he is using it as a euphemism for I don't like you. Growing up in the blues I made stronger distinctions between African American based blues and the white blues of say Hank Williams. In my recent research I am finding that there was more of a crossover between white and black cultures in music than I had realized, especially cowboy music. Black bluesmen were as crazy about cowboys as everyone else. When Alan Lomax went to record Muddy Waters before he went to Chicago in 1941 he knew more cowboy songs than blues songs! Alan only recorded his blues songs in that session which is kind of too bad. Tommy Johnson yodeled in his 1928 recording. I don't feel much affinity with the twang in their voices but the themes of the blues sure zoom forth in this song by Jimmy Davis who had a number one hit in '40 followed by Gene Autry's number one hit with the same song in '41. But check out the first verse for all the blues. Gene started with the chorus in his version, and it changes the blues vibe of the song completely. I play this in old folks homes, they love it. The other night, dear, As I lay sleeping I dreamed I held you in my arms. When I awoke, dear, I was mistaken And I hung my head and cried. You are my sunshine, My only sunshine. You make me happy When skies are grey. You'll never know, dear, How much I love you. Please don't take my sunshine away. I'll always love you And make you happy If you will only say the same But if you leave
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
Ann, many thanks for your contributions. I may have more comments later, but I wanted to make one point right away: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: (megasnip) Curtis wrote: Posting tentatively as if approaching a rattle snake, she avoided any direct interaction. I wrote: Except for the private correspondence they began right after she started posting here, of course. Funny how Curtis keeps forgetting that, innit? Maybe Curtis never knew, we can give him that benefit of the doubt. My initial post was two hours old when I received an email from Robin. Curtis *should* have known, unless he wasn't reading Robin's posts in the discussion of Howell's book, which seems highly unlikely in light of Curtis's profession of great interest in knowing what Robin had been up to with WTS. Robin had posted here about his private correspondence with you: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/325585 This was in the context of LordKnows having accused Robin of putting you in a difficult position, implying you might feel you had to lie about your opinion of Howell's book out of loyalty to Robin. You'd think Curtis would have been very much interested in that issue as well. But the really fascinating thing is, even if Curtis had somehow missed reading that post, he knows now that his avoided any direct interaction characterization was in error, which blows a very serious hole in his thesis about you--and he's *not going to cop to it*.
[FairfieldLife] Being Nothingness
Sad, old Hendrix obsessive that I am, I came across this excellent version of Little Wing: http://youtu.be/1W6xawlcvNU Some SRV influence there, but also some very nice original input. But then I saw this: http://www.truthinshredding.com/2012/03/camila-simont-murdered-on-her-birthday.html Jeez, what a terrible thing. Camila plays country - Faiska http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwszZNPRDisfeature=sharelist=UUNq_GQuUwlE__XI2kBRJe2Q Albert Lee would have been happy with that!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Undiagnosed celiac disease
Gawd... that's TMI even for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: After hearing on TV a young M.D. tell, that all his allergy symptoms had disappeared after his starting gluten free diet, I decided to give it a try. Some of the results: 1. Within two days of starting it, became so horny that had to spank the monkey in the night because couldn't sleep due to that. I gather that might somehow be associated with the liver and its production several hormones?? Usually I only jerk off for fun, not because I have no choice! Also my armpits and balls started sweating much more than they usually do. Somehow felt like a teenage chap for those reasons. 2. The irritation in my lungs caused by room dust became over 80% less, I'd say. 3. (Unstressing?) The worst lower back pain for years, but mainly only positional(?). That might be just a coincidence... 4. During the night my hands became so hot I thought I'd done g-tummo without realising it, LOL! Prolly associated with number 1. So, for undiagnosed celiac brahmacaarins that gluten free diet might be extremely challenging. Even they need sleep, y'know? :-) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2796.1999.00403.x/full
[FairfieldLife] Re: Undiagnosed celiac disease
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: Gawd... that's TMI even for me. If my memory serves me well, Card's dick refuses to stand idly by during his flying sutra. Those Vikings... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@ wrote: After hearing on TV a young M.D. tell, that all his allergy symptoms had disappeared after his starting gluten free diet, I decided to give it a try. Some of the results: 1. Within two days of starting it, became so horny that had to spank the monkey in the night because couldn't sleep due to that. I gather that might somehow be associated with the liver and its production several hormones?? Usually I only jerk off for fun, not because I have no choice! Also my armpits and balls started sweating much more than they usually do. Somehow felt like a teenage chap for those reasons. 2. The irritation in my lungs caused by room dust became over 80% less, I'd say. 3. (Unstressing?) The worst lower back pain for years, but mainly only positional(?). That might be just a coincidence... 4. During the night my hands became so hot I thought I'd done g-tummo without realising it, LOL! Prolly associated with number 1. So, for undiagnosed celiac brahmacaarins that gluten free diet might be extremely challenging. Even they need sleep, y'know? :-) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2796.1999.00403.x/full
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brooklyn
Your wish is my command. I will contact Yahoo immediately and have them implement an illicit watch feature for Yahoo Groups. Your humble servant, Alex --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Dear FFL Moderators, please put these last two posts on an illicit 'watch'. This could be the camel's nose under the tent like some other people have tried here in the past. Like, Why is this person posting pictures of young people on a public spiritual forum with no comment otherwise. Like, what do these pictures have to do with Fairfield and meditating? Are these young people meditators? Is the person posting even a meditator? Eternal vigilance is the price of our freedoms here, -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: Brooklyn Decker, actress, model: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1057600256/nm2395937
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What I remember is that Robin initially posted a one big paragraph post but then added paragraph breaks after people requested that. No, you'd be remembering incorrectly. Not a good idea to assume Curtis's remarks about Robin are reliable, especially those he makes when Robin isn't around. It's not difficult to *check* these things, you know. Finding Robin's initial posts in the archive takes about 30 seconds and requires no technical skill, just the will to find out what the reality is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I remember my first post to him was to ask him to use paragraph breaks so we could more easily read what he was saying. Remember how he used to post in one massive block of text? I always thought that was odd for a guy who had written books, to not have any awareness of his reader. Unsurprisingly, Curtis has misrepresented the facts here in several respects. I'll be happy to document this if anyone is interested. Curtis is exerting himself to come up with as much crap as possible to suggest there's something wrong with Robin, even if he has to make it up, as he does here. Catching up (I've been busy...uh...having a life), I have to comment on this because it's one of my pet peeves. It's an indication of someone who has never really had to write for an audience that is not already committed to him (read, someone who has never written for a non-cult audience). Given that he has, I believe, a graduate degree, I would imagine he had to do quite a bit of writing for a noncult audience. Anyone who actually *cared* about their audience would have cut things into smaller paragraphs without a second thought. That's just what one DOES when writing for a modern audience, one trained by our modern fast cut media to have a short attention span. But nooo. Some of us older folks who have always done a lot of reading don't find that the fast cuts of our modern media have had the effect of shortening our attention spans. I guess people who watch lots and lots of television and films rather than reading books have more problems in that regard. Me, I've never had any trouble reading Robin's longer paragraphs. Perhaps Barry has never had the experience of reading, say, Henry James, who is renowned for his lengthy paragraphs. Good writers don't tend to worry about the length of their paragraphs nearly so much as whether each paragraph deals adequately with a particular idea. And some people, of course, don't really have much to say. Short paragraphs can reflect shallow thinking and an inability to entertain and process complex ideas. In any case, Robin's paragraphs are usually, if not always, of reasonable length. He does tend to write long *sentences*; I suspect those are what Barry has such trouble following due to his very short attention span. What is even more fascinating to me is the fact that a supposedly professional editor never called him on it. I mean, we're talking about someone who nitpicks and corrects even the slightest grammatical infraction as if it were a Mortal Sin. But Robin got a total pass. What's up with that, eh? I wasn't aware there was such a person on FFL, actually. I haven't seen any of his or her posts, at any rate, and Barry seems reluctant to divulge this person's name. As Barry knows, I very rarely correct anyone's grammar; I don't know how this other person Barry's talking about has the time to do anything *but* correct other people's errors if s/he is so insistent on correcting all of them. But perhaps this person is a denizen of the alternate universe salyavin posted about not long ago. Most of Barry's observations seem to come from there, and Curtis always has at least one foot planted in it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: To a neuroscientist the term unified field refers to the image of sense data the brain creates. Bit different to JH's intention of consciousness as the source of matter itself. Hmmm... I've never heard a neuroscientist use the term unified field before at all. Well now you have. It refers of course to the way the brain unifies sense data into a coherent picture of the world as a theatre that we are witnessing but when you look inside the brain, no such theatre exists. It's all a clever bit of wiring and sleight of hand. Or mind. And nothing to do with physics in the way the mystics intend it. Er, um, salyavin, unified field has nothing to do with neuroscience the way physicists intend it (Einstein coined the term). Neuroscience may have recently borrowed it, but that it's a physics term is not something mystics dreamed up; it's just a fact. As to your description of neuroscience's version: As PaliGap asked, Who (or what) is being fooled by this clever sleight of hand? Do your flip responses indicate that you don't have a serious response? It's kind of the $64,000 question, after all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: Well now you have. It refers of course to the way the brain unifies sense data into a coherent picture of the world as a theatre that we are witnessing but when you look inside the brain, no such theatre exists. It's all a clever bit of wiring and sleight of hand. Or mind. Damn clever that. Very damn clever. For wires. Who (or what) is fooled by the sleight? It is undoubtedly the case that if I gaze at a picture of Barry in a Parisian cafe some events occur in my brain. But from that it doesn't follow that what I *really* see are some events in my brain rather than Barry au cafe? The persuasive imagery of the Cartesian Theater keeps coming back to haunt us laypeople and scientists alike even after its ghostly dualism has been denounced and exorcized :: The often unacknowledged remnants of Cartesian dualism in modern materialistic theories of the mind :: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_theater Great quote, especially given that it comes from Dennett. I wonder if his sleep is ever disturbed by that ghost wailing at him: No, you dn't!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being Nothingness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: Sad, old Hendrix obsessive that I am, I came across this excellent version of Little Wing: http://youtu.be/1W6xawlcvNU The girl has passed on, so why not see a really good tribute, like this one from about 4:20: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crdq2oYNaoc With Slash, though born in London, the USA still have some incredible guitarists.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Eternal Freedom, it's a wonderful thing. The fact is it can take some spiritual discipline to get there from here, as in a life well lived. From the Gita somewhere: Disciplined people, freed from [attachments], who have disciplined their thoughts and have realized the Unified Field, find eternal freedom in divine consciousness everywhere. Having left external contacts outside; with the vision within the eyebrows; having balanced the ingoing and outgoing breaths that flow through the nostrils, The seers, whose sins are destroyed, whose doubts are dispelled, who are self-controlled and take delight in doing good to all creatures, attain eternal freedom in divine consciousness. There's a beautiful hymn from the Christian tradition about this Unified Field thing on earth as it is in heaven: In the Unified Field- Salvation, Om the joyful sound! 'Tis pleasure to my ears; A sov'reign balm for ev'ry wound, A cordial for our fears. Buried in sorrow and in sin At hell's dark door we lay; But we arise by grace divine To see a heav'nly day. Salvation! Let the echo fly The spacious earth around; While all the armies of the sky Conspire to raise the sound. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, And if you read these books it appears, also, for the dead (but not gone). -Buck in the Dome When the mind, through the practice of transcendental meditation, rises to the state of cosmic consciousness, absolute Field becomes permanently established in the nature of the mind, and it attains the state of Unified Field, the universal state of Being. Then the mind finds itself on a level of life from which all the gross and subtle levels of creation can be stimulated, controlled and commanded. It's a wonderful thing in Fairfield having the campus radio station to listen to. I came out of the Dome meditation this morning and there was this above discussion from the Gita on the truck radio as me and my farm sheep dog drove along. It's true. -Buck, at home and out standing in his Field
[FairfieldLife] Re: Undiagnosed celiac disease
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Gawd... that's TMI even for me. If my memory serves me well, Card's dick refuses to stand idly by during his flying sutra. Those Vikings... Bal Brahmachari Alex scowls in the general direction of your lower chakras. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@ wrote: After hearing on TV a young M.D. tell, that all his allergy symptoms had disappeared after his starting gluten free diet, I decided to give it a try. Some of the results: 1. Within two days of starting it, became so horny that had to spank the monkey in the night because couldn't sleep due to that. I gather that might somehow be associated with the liver and its production several hormones?? Usually I only jerk off for fun, not because I have no choice! Also my armpits and balls started sweating much more than they usually do. Somehow felt like a teenage chap for those reasons. 2. The irritation in my lungs caused by room dust became over 80% less, I'd say. 3. (Unstressing?) The worst lower back pain for years, but mainly only positional(?). That might be just a coincidence... 4. During the night my hands became so hot I thought I'd done g-tummo without realising it, LOL! Prolly associated with number 1. So, for undiagnosed celiac brahmacaarins that gluten free diet might be extremely challenging. Even they need sleep, y'know? :-) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2796.1999.00403.x/full
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
Reality #1: I was replying to turq, not to Curtis. Reality #2: I don't know what it means when you put the word check between asterisks. Reality #3: I don't equate checking archives with a willingness to find reality. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What I remember is that Robin initially posted a one big paragraph post but then added paragraph breaks after people requested that. No, you'd be remembering incorrectly. Not a good idea to assume Curtis's remarks about Robin are reliable, especially those he makes when Robin isn't around. It's not difficult to *check* these things, you know. Finding Robin's initial posts in the archive takes about 30 seconds and requires no technical skill, just the will to find out what the reality is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: (snip) Ann: What has Barry said on this subject? Not that different from what I am saying. The big difference is that he doesn't think you should bother interacting with the crazy NPD person and I think you should do what you want but don't then lament and cry about it as if you are some long-suffering martyr. Me: Here the passive aggressive nature of your post zooms forth. (Zooms forth??) I would like you to show me where I have lamented and cried as if I was a long-suffering martyr. Here ya go: And his response to my challenge to his belief was not met with anything close to thoughtful dialogue. it was his routine. All insults masquerading as if he was considering my points. A snarky farce dripping with the insincerity and condescension that is his trademark. Robin is a fan of this kind of attack and if you don't cower to his self-assumed special perceptiveness it is used as evidence of some other flaw. It is a double bind mind-fuck and very unpleasant. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/339145 And you are not doing the dialogue Ann and I am enjoying justice by trying to frame it in this pugnacious challenge. More condescending bullshit Robin. You are becoming a real bore with this routine. You are trying to turn a friendly conversation into one of your long-winded dramatic fights...again. I can't even read your shit anymore Robin. Over and out. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/339221 Somehow this last round wore me out. I guess he thinks he is being thorough. I think you may be on to something here. I don't think Robin has really embraced the need for brevity on the Web. He is still behaving as if there is a roomful of adoring students hanging on his every word. But we are all drowning in information now. We just don't have that kind of time to listen to such a detailed scolding. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/339242 Sorry Robin, I'm gunna have to let your word flood posts stand on their own without commentary. I think that does you the most justice because Judy has informed me that when I respond I can keep others from seeing the truth of your post. Hey great job on deflecting the feedback. Not a drop ever reached you. I guess you must have ascertained that I really didn't believe what I wrote so you could dismiss it out of hand. Mighty handy that little trick. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/340380 Don't you EVER get tired of attempting this kind of mindfuck Robin. Seriously, it is so lame. What I want this post to do is to express ideas I am interested in expressing. Dude, enough with the word flood posts. I read most of them and I have nothing to say. You are impervious to feedback and they were too long...again. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/340428 You really needed that many words to express that? Your postings here are not an interaction with other people. It is all going on inside your own head. I am under orders from Ann to ignore you now, but you apparently are free to rant away. Man you must have done a number on her up at that mic. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/340447 I don't owe you a damn thing, not after your behaviour today. First of all you definitely do not owe me an damn thing. Not an explanation for why said the things you did about me in my conversation with Robin. I was giving you a chance to explain how you have been showing up. Your choice. And she said explicitly, *before* you wrote this, that she was going to take another crack at it. Then she said the hell with it after reading your post that I'm responding to. I don't blame her. But I figured I'd dredge up the quotes myself anyway. (How you have been showing up = more psychobabble.) Secondly, what's with the unspecified your behavior umbrage machine you are laying down? Ann is laying down an umbrage machine?? Curtis, just an editorial suggestion: Don't try for vivid writing unless you're going to take the time to do it right. Point out something specific you want me to explain, and I will tell you why I said it. I can't find where Ann asked you to explain anything. It's pretty clear why you said what you said to Barry. You want to weaken Ann's voice (and by extension Robin's) by portraying her as damaged goods, still not recovered from her years with Robin. To do so, of course, you've had to misrepresent her behavior and what she has told us about herself, her stint with WTS, and her recovery from it. Point being, you've decided she's a threat, and you can't tolerate threats to your authoriteh; you are compelled to do your best to
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: To a neuroscientist the term unified field refers to the image of sense data the brain creates. Bit different to JH's intention of consciousness as the source of matter itself. Hmmm... I've never heard a neuroscientist use the term unified field before at all. Well now you have. It refers of course to the way the brain unifies sense data into a coherent picture of the world as a theatre that we are witnessing but when you look inside the brain, no such theatre exists. It's all a clever bit of wiring and sleight of hand. Or mind. And nothing to do with physics in the way the mystics intend it. Er, um, salyavin, unified field has nothing to do with neuroscience the way physicists intend it (Einstein coined the term). I know, that was my point. Neuroscience may have recently borrowed it, but that it's a physics term is not something mystics dreamed up; it's just a fact. No kidding. As to your description of neuroscience's version: As PaliGap asked, Who (or what) is being fooled by this clever sleight of hand? Do your flip responses indicate that you don't have a serious response? It was a serious response. It's kind of the $64,000 question, after all. For me, the serious question is why there is anything here at all. Once you've got your head round that the mechanics of how it all works will depend on measurement and an ability to accept that what we are looking at inside our brains translates into our conscious experiences. We haven't worked it out yet but so what? That doesn't mean we have to go running to the paranormal just because we haven't got an explanation, that's what kept our ancestors believing in god and astrology. It's a natural tendency but mistaken, especially as we can see individual thoughts as they occur. It's all globby and whirly and we are all going to have to deal with it sooner or later.
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: [SHARE]ality #1: I was replying to turq, not to Curtis. Oh, dear, Share, that's a very bad start. You were responding to a post of Barry's *in which he quoted Curtis*, so you were aware of what Curtis had said and thought you'd help him out by supporting it. [SHARE]ality #2: I don't know what it means when you put the word check between asterisks. And this puts you even further back. You've encountered this convention over and over on FFL and never had any difficulty understanding what it meant. [SHARE]ality #3: I don't equate checking archives with a willingness to find reality. No, I don't imagine you would. You'd rather go with the SHAREality you make up in your head, even when it's contradicted by the actual reality of what's in the archives. Or *especially* when it's contradicted by what's in the archives. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What I remember is that Robin initially posted a one big paragraph post but then added paragraph breaks after people requested that. No, you'd be remembering incorrectly. Not a good idea to assume Curtis's remarks about Robin are reliable, especially those he makes when Robin isn't around. It's not difficult to *check* these things, you know. Finding Robin's initial posts in the archive takes about 30 seconds and requires no technical skill, just the will to find out what the reality is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: To a neuroscientist the term unified field refers to the image of sense data the brain creates. Bit different to JH's intention of consciousness as the source of matter itself. Hmmm... I've never heard a neuroscientist use the term unified field before at all. Well now you have. It refers of course to the way the brain unifies sense data into a coherent picture of the world as a theatre that we are witnessing but when you look inside the brain, no such theatre exists. It's all a clever bit of wiring and sleight of hand. Or mind. And nothing to do with physics in the way the mystics intend it. Er, um, salyavin, unified field has nothing to do with neuroscience the way physicists intend it (Einstein coined the term). I know, that was my point. Neuroscience may have recently borrowed it, but that it's a physics term is not something mystics dreamed up; it's just a fact. No kidding. Unfortunately, your disclaimers here don't fit very well with your comment to Lawson quoted at the top. As to your description of neuroscience's version: As PaliGap asked, Who (or what) is being fooled by this clever sleight of hand? Do your flip responses indicate that you don't have a serious response? It was a serious response. That's too bad. It's kind of the $64,000 question, after all. For me, the serious question is why there is anything here at all. You're right, that's probably the $64,001 question. Has it ever occurred to you to wonder if they could possibly be related? Once you've got your head round that the mechanics of how it all works will depend on measurement and an ability to accept that what we are looking at inside our brains What *who* or *what* are looking at? translates into our conscious experiences. Who or what is conscious of these experiences? We haven't worked it out yet but so what? That doesn't mean we have to go running to the paranormal just because we haven't got an explanation Oh, crap, I'm not talking about paranormal. I'm talking hard-nosed philosophy. that's what kept our ancestors believing in god and astrology. It's a natural tendency but mistaken, especially as we can see individual thoughts as they occur. As they occur *to whom* (or *to what*)? It's all globby and whirly and we are all going to have to deal with it sooner or later. We can't deal with it until we realize the nature of the problem.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
On 04/13/2013 09:30 AM, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 04/13/2013 04:56 AM, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, -Buck in the Dome Two things: of course many of us are getting old. We aren't spring chickens anymore, we're the elderly though we ain't our grandmother's style of elderly which is another thing that American marketing seems to have trouble with: Rock 'n Roll senior citizens. And two, IMHO I don't think we're going to live as long as we thought or was projected. snip But one thing you should at least be taking away from TM is any fear of death. You practice for that every night when you go to sleep. The only thing we can best do is hope we don't have a painful or prolonged death. Son, Death, like an overflowing stream, Sweeps us away; our life's a dream, An empty tale, a morning flow'r, Cut down and wither'd in an hour. Our age to [sev'nty] years is set; How short the time! How frail the state! And if to [eighty] we arrive, We'd rather sigh and groan than live. Teach us, Om Unified Field, how frail is man; And kindly lengthen out the span, Till a wise care of piety Fit us to die and dwell with Thee. Those who have made it over the hump probably don't care. Those who haven't probably still fear death. It's all karma anyway and like I sometimes say maybe these early deceasers are gettin' while the gettins good. We may be in for a terribly dark century. When you cross over you might wind up greeting them and saying you got out just in the nick of time!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
The St. Germain schtick - 'splains a lot - even if you read the books there are some dead giveaways that those two were frauds From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight! seventhray is a carry over from the time (the few months I spent with The Saint Germain Foundation here is St. Louis)and also some of the literature I've read regarding the Ascended Masters. Now before MJ wets his pants with another (tired) tirade about Guy and Edna Ballard, or the fantasy of the Ascended Masters, it's nothing I really think about anymore, but I simply liked the concept of the seventhray. Well okay, the whole concept of Saint Germain, and the Ascended Masters is something I still keep in the back of my mind. Naturally it isn't anything I would bring up here because, you know, you bring this stuff here at your own risk. Plus, anything thoughts I have about it are quite personal. I wanted to be seventhray1, but it was taken. For a while I was seventhray2, but that ID got messed up when I changed my e-mail, so I just went with seventhray27 Ah, Roller Ball, aka Indian Ball. A couple years ago, we had a family whose house burned down in a predominantly black part of town, and their insurance payed for them to move into our neighborhood, (not that it's exclusive or anything, but its a historic neighborhood with many large homes settled by the wealthy German population who settled here. (Our home is quite a bit smaller, the original home having been destroyed in the 1900 tornado, and a smaller house built in it's place. Anyway there were about 6 kids living in that house who had never played any baseball, so that summer and fall, (before they moved back), I had fun teaching them how to ride a bike and playing catch, and hitting and throwing, riding a scooter, along with my kids of course. Good times! http://comptonheights.org/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@... wrote: Those were part of our rules, seventhray. What does seventhray stand for, if you don't mind me asking? Well, I guess I'll ask about significance of 27 also? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: There was also a version where at some point, someone would lay the bat down, and someone else would roll the ball in, and if it hit the bat and bounced up, and you were able to catch the ball on the bounce, you won that round,or got some points. But I can't remember the name of that game. So, when you say roller ball that also comes to mind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Seventhray...it is Indian Ball. I don't recall ever learning about that. Thank you. Share...fascinating about cellular memory/response and the skin cells. Do you know if this experiment was duplicated? I wonder if any responses are dependent on other factors such as individual's constitution or how much time the cells are detached from the body. This brings to mind Donna Eden's book on Energy Medicine and one of her accounts regarding an amputated finger. I'd have to look up the details now, but it seems their was communication between the finger and the hand from which it was amputated. I know energy medicine is controversial and some (most?) scientists tout it as pseudo science. One day maybe we will have the mechanisms for more reliable hard data. Regardless, once a person experiences something, it's difficult for one to deny that experience and remain stable. I mean, to deny it can produce a cognitive dissonance which can eventually be detrimental to one's well being. I think of one of Audubon's quotes: When the bird and the book disagree, always believe the bird. [But I'd take out the word always. ;) ] I posted in another FFL thread about Paul Pearsall. I think I posted about his interviews with organ transplant patients and the cellular memory transferred to the patient. Patients (at least at the time the book was written) could not know who their donors were for one year; yet, the patients had picked up words and/or memories and/or certain behaviors and tastes that the patient didn't have previous to receiving their new organ. Come to learn a year later, that those changes coincided with their donors' memories/tastes/words/etc. Life sure is complex and rich. I was updating my poetry archive last night. It was fun reading through poems I've penned in the last 4 years. One piece reminded me of how so much life surrounds us every moment of every day; life is everywhere. And the seeds of life...such an abundance of seeds. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27
Re: [FairfieldLife] Undiagnosed celiac disease
On 04/12/2013 11:57 PM, card wrote: After hearing on TV a young M.D. tell, that all his allergy symptoms had disappeared after his starting gluten free diet, I decided to give it a try. Some of the results: 1. Within two days of starting it, became so horny that had to spank the monkey in the night because couldn't sleep due to that. I gather that might somehow be associated with the liver and its production several hormones?? Usually I only jerk off for fun, not because I have no choice! Also my armpits and balls started sweating much more than they usually do. Somehow felt like a teenage chap for those reasons. 2. The irritation in my lungs caused by room dust became over 80% less, I'd say. 3. (Unstressing?) The worst lower back pain for years, but mainly only positional(?). That might be just a coincidence... 4. During the night my hands became so hot I thought I'd done g-tummo without realising it, LOL! Prolly associated with number 1. So, for undiagnosed celiac brahmacaarins that gluten free diet might be extremely challenging. Even they need sleep, y'know? :-) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2796.1999.00403.x/full There's a bunch of naturopaths promoting people getting off of wheat and other grains because of this. They say about 70% of the population has a problem with guten. I'm apparently from the 30% that doesn't. OTOH, I also like to eat corn a bit which is safe and that reduces my use of wheat products. The ND's say that in an attempt to get plenty of fiber that we may have gone overboard and that some fibers irritate or damage the colon. Closest to that I've come was with my love for berries, granola and yogurt during summer months. And it may well do with how fast stuff moves through your digestive tract. Not much understood but studied at least by Japanese researchers is the fact that people may different rates of transit and can effect how well digested stuff is or even if it winds up impacted in the colon. Apples are a good source of fiber and pectin but one has to be careful because they can also set off a glycemic reaction. The ND's also recommend getting your fiber from vegetables. Of course which vegetables depends on your dosha.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
As far as I remember I only tiraded about the Ballard frauds once From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight! seventhray is a carry over from the time (the few months I spent with The Saint Germain Foundation here is St. Louis)and also some of the literature I've read regarding the Ascended Masters. Now before MJ wets his pants with another (tired) tirade about Guy and Edna Ballard, or the fantasy of the Ascended Masters, it's nothing I really think about anymore, but I simply liked the concept of the seventhray. Well okay, the whole concept of Saint Germain, and the Ascended Masters is something I still keep in the back of my mind. Naturally it isn't anything I would bring up here because, you know, you bring this stuff here at your own risk. Plus, anything thoughts I have about it are quite personal. I wanted to be seventhray1, but it was taken. For a while I was seventhray2, but that ID got messed up when I changed my e-mail, so I just went with seventhray27 Ah, Roller Ball, aka Indian Ball. A couple years ago, we had a family whose house burned down in a predominantly black part of town, and their insurance payed for them to move into our neighborhood, (not that it's exclusive or anything, but its a historic neighborhood with many large homes settled by the wealthy German population who settled here. (Our home is quite a bit smaller, the original home having been destroyed in the 1900 tornado, and a smaller house built in it's place. Anyway there were about 6 kids living in that house who had never played any baseball, so that summer and fall, (before they moved back), I had fun teaching them how to ride a bike and playing catch, and hitting and throwing, riding a scooter, along with my kids of course. Good times! http://comptonheights.org/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@... wrote: Those were part of our rules, seventhray. What does seventhray stand for, if you don't mind me asking? Well, I guess I'll ask about significance of 27 also? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: There was also a version where at some point, someone would lay the bat down, and someone else would roll the ball in, and if it hit the bat and bounced up, and you were able to catch the ball on the bounce, you won that round,or got some points. But I can't remember the name of that game. So, when you say roller ball that also comes to mind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Seventhray...it is Indian Ball. I don't recall ever learning about that. Thank you. Share...fascinating about cellular memory/response and the skin cells. Do you know if this experiment was duplicated? I wonder if any responses are dependent on other factors such as individual's constitution or how much time the cells are detached from the body. This brings to mind Donna Eden's book on Energy Medicine and one of her accounts regarding an amputated finger. I'd have to look up the details now, but it seems their was communication between the finger and the hand from which it was amputated. I know energy medicine is controversial and some (most?) scientists tout it as pseudo science. One day maybe we will have the mechanisms for more reliable hard data. Regardless, once a person experiences something, it's difficult for one to deny that experience and remain stable. I mean, to deny it can produce a cognitive dissonance which can eventually be detrimental to one's well being. I think of one of Audubon's quotes: When the bird and the book disagree, always believe the bird. [But I'd take out the word always. ;) ] I posted in another FFL thread about Paul Pearsall. I think I posted about his interviews with organ transplant patients and the cellular memory transferred to the patient. Patients (at least at the time the book was written) could not know who their donors were for one year; yet, the patients had picked up words and/or memories and/or certain behaviors and tastes that the patient didn't have previous to receiving their new organ. Come to learn a year later, that those changes coincided with their donors' memories/tastes/words/etc. Life sure is complex and rich. I was updating my poetry archive last night. It was fun reading through poems I've penned in the last 4 years. One piece reminded me of how so much life surrounds us every moment of every day; life is everywhere. And the seeds of life...such an abundance of seeds. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: I think it's what we used to
[FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
Hey Michael, I'm sorry that your filter gets clogged so easily and that you seem unable to separate the positive aspects from an experience from the negative ones. I never bought into the aura of the Ballards. I was intriqued by the story of St. Germain, and the Ascended Master deal and spent about three months checking it out. And there were some good things that I took away from it. You love to parrot how the Ballards were frauds. You've made that pretty clear. I think we, (or at least I), have a pretty good idea of what you're against. I'm still not sure what you're for. And too bad you feel the need jump all over people for what was an exploratory process. I mean you childhood sounds like it was pretty darned good. But I guess you suffered abuse later from spiritual teachers that has left you somewhat jaded. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: The St. Germain schtick - 'splains a lot - even if you read the books there are some dead giveaways that those two were frauds From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight! Â seventhray is a carry over from the time (the few months I spent with The Saint Germain Foundation here is St. Louis)and also some of the literature I've read regarding the Ascended Masters. Now before MJ wets his pants with another (tired) tirade about Guy and Edna Ballard, or the fantasy of the Ascended Masters, it's nothing I really think about anymore, but I simply liked the concept of the seventhray. Well okay, the whole concept of Saint Germain, and the Ascended Masters is something I still keep in the back of my mind. Naturally it isn't anything I would bring up here because, you know, you bring this stuff here at your own risk. Plus, anything thoughts I have about it are quite personal. I wanted to be seventhray1, but it was taken. For a while I was seventhray2, but that ID got messed up when I changed my e-mail, so I just went with seventhray27 Ah, Roller Ball, aka Indian Ball. A couple years ago, we had a family whose house burned down in a predominantly black part of town, and their insurance payed for them to move into our neighborhood, (not that it's exclusive or anything, but its a historic neighborhood with many large homes settled by the wealthy German population who settled here. (Our home is quite a bit smaller, the original home having been destroyed in the 1900 tornado, and a smaller house built in it's place. Anyway there were about 6 kids living in that house who had never played any baseball, so that summer and fall, (before they moved back), I had fun teaching them how to ride a bike and playing catch, and hitting and throwing, riding a scooter, along with my kids of course. Good times! http://comptonheights.org/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Those were part of our rules, seventhray. What does seventhray stand for, if you don't mind me asking? Well, I guess I'll ask about significance of 27 also? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: There was also a version where at some point, someone would lay the bat down, and someone else would roll the ball in, and if it hit the bat and bounced up, and you were able to catch the ball on the bounce, you won that round,or got some points. But I can't remember the name of that game. So, when you say roller ball that also comes to mind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Seventhray...it is Indian Ball. I don't recall ever learning about that. Thank you. Share...fascinating about cellular memory/response and the skin cells. Do you know if this experiment was duplicated? I wonder if any responses are dependent on other factors such as individual's constitution or how much time the cells are detached from the body. This brings to mind Donna Eden's book on Energy Medicine and one of her accounts regarding an amputated finger. I'd have to look up the details now, but it seems their was communication between the finger and the hand from which it was amputated. I know energy medicine is controversial and some (most?) scientists tout it as pseudo science. One day maybe we will have the mechanisms for more reliable hard data. Regardless, once a person experiences something, it's difficult for one to deny that experience and remain stable. I mean, to deny it can produce a cognitive dissonance which can eventually be detrimental to one's well being. I think of one of Audubon's quotes: When the bird and the book disagree, always believe the bird. [But
[FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
I bet its a minimum of four, and possibly six. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: As far as I remember I only tiraded about the Ballard frauds once From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight! Â seventhray is a carry over from the time (the few months I spent with The Saint Germain Foundation here is St. Louis)and also some of the literature I've read regarding the Ascended Masters. Now before MJ wets his pants with another (tired) tirade about Guy and Edna Ballard, or the fantasy of the Ascended Masters, it's nothing I really think about anymore, but I simply liked the concept of the seventhray. Well okay, the whole concept of Saint Germain, and the Ascended Masters is something I still keep in the back of my mind. Naturally it isn't anything I would bring up here because, you know, you bring this stuff here at your own risk. Plus, anything thoughts I have about it are quite personal. I wanted to be seventhray1, but it was taken. For a while I was seventhray2, but that ID got messed up when I changed my e-mail, so I just went with seventhray27 Ah, Roller Ball, aka Indian Ball. A couple years ago, we had a family whose house burned down in a predominantly black part of town, and their insurance payed for them to move into our neighborhood, (not that it's exclusive or anything, but its a historic neighborhood with many large homes settled by the wealthy German population who settled here. (Our home is quite a bit smaller, the original home having been destroyed in the 1900 tornado, and a smaller house built in it's place. Anyway there were about 6 kids living in that house who had never played any baseball, so that summer and fall, (before they moved back), I had fun teaching them how to ride a bike and playing catch, and hitting and throwing, riding a scooter, along with my kids of course. Good times! http://comptonheights.org/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Those were part of our rules, seventhray. What does seventhray stand for, if you don't mind me asking? Well, I guess I'll ask about significance of 27 also? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: There was also a version where at some point, someone would lay the bat down, and someone else would roll the ball in, and if it hit the bat and bounced up, and you were able to catch the ball on the bounce, you won that round,or got some points. But I can't remember the name of that game. So, when you say roller ball that also comes to mind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Seventhray...it is Indian Ball. I don't recall ever learning about that. Thank you. Share...fascinating about cellular memory/response and the skin cells. Do you know if this experiment was duplicated? I wonder if any responses are dependent on other factors such as individual's constitution or how much time the cells are detached from the body. This brings to mind Donna Eden's book on Energy Medicine and one of her accounts regarding an amputated finger. I'd have to look up the details now, but it seems their was communication between the finger and the hand from which it was amputated. I know energy medicine is controversial and some (most?) scientists tout it as pseudo science. One day maybe we will have the mechanisms for more reliable hard data. Regardless, once a person experiences something, it's difficult for one to deny that experience and remain stable. I mean, to deny it can produce a cognitive dissonance which can eventually be detrimental to one's well being. I think of one of Audubon's quotes: When the bird and the book disagree, always believe the bird. [But I'd take out the word always. ;) ] I posted in another FFL thread about Paul Pearsall. I think I posted about his interviews with organ transplant patients and the cellular memory transferred to the patient. Patients (at least at the time the book was written) could not know who their donors were for one year; yet, the patients had picked up words and/or memories and/or certain behaviors and tastes that the patient didn't have previous to receiving their new organ. Come to learn a year later, that those changes coincided with their donors' memories/tastes/words/etc. Life sure is complex and rich. I was updating my poetry archive last night. It was fun reading through poems I've penned in the last 4 years. One piece reminded me of how so much life surrounds us every moment of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
oh dear Judy I think you have participated in the Centrifuge Brain Project one too many times otherwise you would not be claiming to know what I was aware of at the moment that I wrote my reply to turq. Nor would you be claiming to know what I don't understand about a convention used on FFL. Nor would you be claiming to know the contents of anyone's thought processes other than your own. If that, wicked grin. oh dear Judy, archives are a record. They are not reality. But you already knew that. Hopefully. From the thread called a TM poster boy's eulogy: Salyavin: It's all globby and whirly and we are all going to have to deal with it sooner or later. Judy: We can't deal with it until we realize the nature of the problem. Share: Judy may be a hard nosed philosopher but here she seems unable to follow salyavin's logic, albeit couched in a colorful phrase. Isn't he saying that the nature of the problem IS that it's all globby and whirly? From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: [SHARE]ality #1: I was replying to turq, not to Curtis. Oh, dear, Share, that's a very bad start. You were responding to a post of Barry's *in which he quoted Curtis*, so you were aware of what Curtis had said and thought you'd help him out by supporting it. [SHARE]ality #2: I don't know what it means when you put the word check between asterisks. And this puts you even further back. You've encountered this convention over and over on FFL and never had any difficulty understanding what it meant. [SHARE]ality #3: I don't equate checking archives with a willingness to find reality. No, I don't imagine you would. You'd rather go with the SHAREality you make up in your head, even when it's contradicted by the actual reality of what's in the archives. Or *especially* when it's contradicted by what's in the archives. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What I remember is that Robin initially posted a one big paragraph post but then added paragraph breaks after people requested that. No, you'd be remembering incorrectly. Not a good idea to assume Curtis's remarks about Robin are reliable, especially those he makes when Robin isn't around. It's not difficult to *check* these things, you know. Finding Robin's initial posts in the archive takes about 30 seconds and requires no technical skill, just the will to find out what the reality is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Eternal Freedom, it's a wonderful thing. The fact is it can take some spiritual discipline to get there from here, as in a life well lived. From the Gita somewhere: Disciplined people, freed from [attachments], who have disciplined their thoughts and have realized the Unified Field, find eternal freedom in divine consciousness everywhere. Having left external contacts outside; with the vision within the eyebrows; having balanced the ingoing and outgoing breaths that flow through the nostrils, The seers, whose sins are destroyed, whose doubts are dispelled, who are self-controlled and take delight in doing good to all creatures, attain eternal freedom in divine consciousness. What? You're not a seer? What [in hell] on earth have you been doing with your life? There's a beautiful hymn from the Christian tradition about this Unified Field thing on earth as it is in heaven: In the Unified Field- Salvation, Om the joyful sound! 'Tis pleasure to my ears; A sov'reign balm for ev'ry wound, A cordial for our fears. Buried in sorrow and in sin At hell's dark door we lay; But we arise by grace divine To see a heav'nly day. Salvation! Let the echo fly The spacious earth around; While all the armies of the sky Conspire to raise the sound. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, And if you read these books it appears, also, for the dead (but not gone). -Buck in the Dome When the mind, through the practice of transcendental meditation, rises to the state of cosmic consciousness, absolute Field becomes permanently established in the nature of the mind, and it attains the state of Unified Field, the universal state of Being. Then the mind finds itself on a level of life from which all the gross and subtle levels of creation can be stimulated, controlled and commanded. It's a wonderful thing in Fairfield having the campus radio station to listen to. I came out of the Dome meditation this morning and there was this above discussion from the Gita on the truck radio as me and my farm sheep dog drove along. It's true. -Buck, at home and out standing in his Field
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: It was a serious response. That's too bad. Not really. It's kind of the $64,000 question, after all. For me, the serious question is why there is anything here at all. You're right, that's probably the $64,001 question. Has it ever occurred to you to wonder if they could possibly be related? Why are you so fucking arch all the time? What does that say about your consciousness? Once you've got your head round that the mechanics of how it all works will depend on measurement and an ability to accept that what we are looking at inside our brains What *who* or *what* are looking at? translates into our conscious experiences. Who or what is conscious of these experiences? We haven't worked it out yet but so what? That doesn't mean we have to go running to the paranormal just because we haven't got an explanation Oh, crap, I'm not talking about paranormal. I'm talking hard-nosed philosophy. that's what kept our ancestors believing in god and astrology. It's a natural tendency but mistaken, especially as we can see individual thoughts as they occur. As they occur *to whom* (or *to what*)? It's all globby and whirly and we are all going to have to deal with it sooner or later. We can't deal with it until we realize the nature of the problem.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy New Vedic Year!
and From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 12:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Happy New Vedic Year! The Sun has entered Aries today.
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: oh dear Judy I think you have participated in the Centrifuge Brain Project one too many times otherwise you would not be claiming to know what I was aware of at the moment that I wrote my reply to turq. Nor would you be claiming to know what I don't understand about a convention used on FFL. Nor would you be claiming to know the contents of anyone's thought processes other than your own. You mean, the way you just claimed to know the contents of *my* thought processes? oh dear Judy, archives are a record. They are not reality. But you already knew that. Hopefully. They are a record, dear Share, of the reality of what has been said here on FFL, which is what was at issue. But you already knew that. Hopefully. From the thread called a TM poster boy's eulogy: Salyavin: It's all globby and whirly and we are all going to have to deal with it sooner or later. Judy: We can't deal with it until we realize the nature of the problem. Share: Judy may be a hard nosed philosopher but here she seems unable to follow salyavin's logic, albeit couched in a colorful phrase. Isn't he saying that the nature of the problem IS that it's all globby and whirly? All globby and whirly, dear Share, in this context means We don't know what the hell we're dealing with. But you already knew that, hopefully. And I never said I was a hard-nosed philosopher. Pretty pathetic attempt all the way around, Share. Have you been into the sugar lately? From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: [SHARE]ality #1: I was replying to turq, not to Curtis. Oh, dear, Share, that's a very bad start. You were responding to a post of Barry's *in which he quoted Curtis*, so you were aware of what Curtis had said and thought you'd help him out by supporting it. [SHARE]ality #2: I don't know what it means when you put the word check between asterisks. And this puts you even further back. You've encountered this convention over and over on FFL and never had any difficulty understanding what it meant. [SHARE]ality #3: I don't equate checking archives with a willingness to find reality. No, I don't imagine you would. You'd rather go with the SHAREality you make up in your head, even when it's contradicted by the actual reality of what's in the archives. Or *especially* when it's contradicted by what's in the archives. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What I remember is that Robin initially posted a one big paragraph post but then added paragraph breaks after people requested that. No, you'd be remembering incorrectly. Not a good idea to assume Curtis's remarks about Robin are reliable, especially those he makes when Robin isn't around. It's not difficult to *check* these things, you know. Finding Robin's initial posts in the archive takes about 30 seconds and requires no technical skill, just the will to find out what the reality is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: It was a serious response. That's too bad. Not really. It's kind of the $64,000 question, after all. For me, the serious question is why there is anything here at all. You're right, that's probably the $64,001 question. Has it ever occurred to you to wonder if they could possibly be related? Why are you so fucking arch all the time? It was a serious question, actually. What does that say about your consciousness? Huh?? No responses to my other questions, I guess. Once you've got your head round that the mechanics of how it all works will depend on measurement and an ability to accept that what we are looking at inside our brains What *who* or *what* are looking at? translates into our conscious experiences. Who or what is conscious of these experiences? We haven't worked it out yet but so what? That doesn't mean we have to go running to the paranormal just because we haven't got an explanation Oh, crap, I'm not talking about paranormal. I'm talking hard-nosed philosophy. that's what kept our ancestors believing in god and astrology. It's a natural tendency but mistaken, especially as we can see individual thoughts as they occur. As they occur *to whom* (or *to what*)? It's all globby and whirly and we are all going to have to deal with it sooner or later. We can't deal with it until we realize the nature of the problem.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
You are living in your own head - I never said anything about or against you studying with the St Germain people From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight! Hey Michael, I'm sorry that your filter gets clogged so easily and that you seem unable to separate the positive aspects from an experience from the negative ones. I never bought into the aura of the Ballards. I was intriqued by the story of St. Germain, and the Ascended Master deal and spent about three months checking it out. And there were some good things that I took away from it. You love to parrot how the Ballards were frauds. You've made that pretty clear. I think we, (or at least I), have a pretty good idea of what you're against. I'm still not sure what you're for. And too bad you feel the need jump all over people for what was an exploratory process. I mean you childhood sounds like it was pretty darned good. But I guess you suffered abuse later from spiritual teachers that has left you somewhat jaded. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: The St. Germain schtick - 'splains a lot - even if you read the books there are some dead giveaways that those two were frauds From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight! Â seventhray is a carry over from the time (the few months I spent with The Saint Germain Foundation here is St. Louis)and also some of the literature I've read regarding the Ascended Masters. Now before MJ wets his pants with another (tired) tirade about Guy and Edna Ballard, or the fantasy of the Ascended Masters, it's nothing I really think about anymore, but I simply liked the concept of the seventhray. Well okay, the whole concept of Saint Germain, and the Ascended Masters is something I still keep in the back of my mind. Naturally it isn't anything I would bring up here because, you know, you bring this stuff here at your own risk. Plus, anything thoughts I have about it are quite personal. I wanted to be seventhray1, but it was taken. For a while I was seventhray2, but that ID got messed up when I changed my e-mail, so I just went with seventhray27 Ah, Roller Ball, aka Indian Ball. A couple years ago, we had a family whose house burned down in a predominantly black part of town, and their insurance payed for them to move into our neighborhood, (not that it's exclusive or anything, but its a historic neighborhood with many large homes settled by the wealthy German population who settled here. (Our home is quite a bit smaller, the original home having been destroyed in the 1900 tornado, and a smaller house built in it's place. Anyway there were about 6 kids living in that house who had never played any baseball, so that summer and fall, (before they moved back), I had fun teaching them how to ride a bike and playing catch, and hitting and throwing, riding a scooter, along with my kids of course. Good times! http://comptonheights.org/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Those were part of our rules, seventhray. What does seventhray stand for, if you don't mind me asking? Well, I guess I'll ask about significance of 27 also? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: There was also a version where at some point, someone would lay the bat down, and someone else would roll the ball in, and if it hit the bat and bounced up, and you were able to catch the ball on the bounce, you won that round,or got some points. But I can't remember the name of that game. So, when you say roller ball that also comes to mind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Seventhray...it is Indian Ball. I don't recall ever learning about that. Thank you. Share...fascinating about cellular memory/response and the skin cells. Do you know if this experiment was duplicated? I wonder if any responses are dependent on other factors such as individual's constitution or how much time the cells are detached from the body. This brings to mind Donna Eden's book on Energy Medicine and one of her accounts regarding an amputated finger. I'd have to look up the details now, but it seems their was communication between the finger and the hand from which it was amputated. I know energy medicine is controversial and some (most?) scientists tout it as pseudo science. One day maybe we will have the mechanisms for more reliable hard data. Regardless, once a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
You're the only one counting From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 3:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight! I bet its a minimum of four, and possibly six. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: As far as I remember I only tiraded about the Ballard frauds once From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight! Â seventhray is a carry over from the time (the few months I spent with The Saint Germain Foundation here is St. Louis)and also some of the literature I've read regarding the Ascended Masters. Now before MJ wets his pants with another (tired) tirade about Guy and Edna Ballard, or the fantasy of the Ascended Masters, it's nothing I really think about anymore, but I simply liked the concept of the seventhray. Well okay, the whole concept of Saint Germain, and the Ascended Masters is something I still keep in the back of my mind. Naturally it isn't anything I would bring up here because, you know, you bring this stuff here at your own risk. Plus, anything thoughts I have about it are quite personal. I wanted to be seventhray1, but it was taken. For a while I was seventhray2, but that ID got messed up when I changed my e-mail, so I just went with seventhray27 Ah, Roller Ball, aka Indian Ball. A couple years ago, we had a family whose house burned down in a predominantly black part of town, and their insurance payed for them to move into our neighborhood, (not that it's exclusive or anything, but its a historic neighborhood with many large homes settled by the wealthy German population who settled here. (Our home is quite a bit smaller, the original home having been destroyed in the 1900 tornado, and a smaller house built in it's place. Anyway there were about 6 kids living in that house who had never played any baseball, so that summer and fall, (before they moved back), I had fun teaching them how to ride a bike and playing catch, and hitting and throwing, riding a scooter, along with my kids of course. Good times! http://comptonheights.org/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Those were part of our rules, seventhray. What does seventhray stand for, if you don't mind me asking? Well, I guess I'll ask about significance of 27 also? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: There was also a version where at some point, someone would lay the bat down, and someone else would roll the ball in, and if it hit the bat and bounced up, and you were able to catch the ball on the bounce, you won that round,or got some points. But I can't remember the name of that game. So, when you say roller ball that also comes to mind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Seventhray...it is Indian Ball. I don't recall ever learning about that. Thank you. Share...fascinating about cellular memory/response and the skin cells. Do you know if this experiment was duplicated? I wonder if any responses are dependent on other factors such as individual's constitution or how much time the cells are detached from the body. This brings to mind Donna Eden's book on Energy Medicine and one of her accounts regarding an amputated finger. I'd have to look up the details now, but it seems their was communication between the finger and the hand from which it was amputated. I know energy medicine is controversial and some (most?) scientists tout it as pseudo science. One day maybe we will have the mechanisms for more reliable hard data. Regardless, once a person experiences something, it's difficult for one to deny that experience and remain stable. I mean, to deny it can produce a cognitive dissonance which can eventually be detrimental to one's well being. I think of one of Audubon's quotes: When the bird and the book disagree, always believe the bird. [But I'd take out the word always. ;) ] I posted in another FFL thread about Paul Pearsall. I think I posted about his interviews with organ transplant patients and the cellular memory transferred to the patient. Patients (at least at the time the book was written) could not know who their donors were for one year; yet, the patients had picked up words and/or memories and/or certain behaviors and tastes that the patient didn't have previous to receiving their new organ. Come to learn a year later, that those changes coincided with their donors'
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
In my earlier post dissecting Curtis's long post to Barry about Robin and Ann, I identified one HUGE lie from Curtis and promised to make a separate post about it. This is the massive lie: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: (snippola) My initial motivation for interacting with Robin was to see how a cult leader thought. At first he seemed to have a cool perspective on his previous life. I believe that my misread of his meaning when he made a big fuss about me NEVER questioning his enlightenment experience was pivotal. I thought he was doing schtick on being sensitive about it. He was not. When he sussed out that I was not gunna buy his interpretation of his glorious previous state of mind he turned on me. Curtis had said the same thing directly to Robin near the beginning of their most recent exchange: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: (snip) I have never gotten back to a trusting sincere space with you. It's funny, I was looking at some old posts from our beginning run and there was a comment you made that at the time I think I took completely the wrong way. You were saying that the one thing I must never do is question your enlightenment in the past. I realized now that I thought you were being snarky and self-effacing, making a joke about insisting that I take that seriously, you know wink, wink, nudge, nudge style. I thought it meant that you were beyond taking that part of your life seriously. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/339021 I'm going to respond to that earlier post: Yes, very funny, especially since it isn't true, Curtis. I looked up the post. I gather you didn't expect anyone to do that. In fact, Robin was indeed kidding about your not questioning his enlightenment--but not because he himself didn't take his enlightenment seriously. He was well aware that it was unlikely others, especially you, would do so. However, if you believed (mistakenly) at the time that he was beyond taking it seriously himself, as you claim, that was in no way reflected in your response. I don't think you did believe that. I think the purpose of the paragraph I quoted above was to try to make him look like a jerk by pretending he had made a big fuss about [you] NEVER questioning his enlightenment experience. Here's what he actually wrote: It's going to be fun, Curtis. I appreciate the warning and the hidden admonition. But don't you DARE question the truth of my enlightenment, OK? That's where we part company. Just be as flattering, fawning, and sycophantic as you can. When it comes to my beautiful achievement of Unity Consciousness. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280412 You knew exactly where he was coming from: he fully expected you to try to refute his claim--the phrasing I just quoted is obviously ironic--but he wasn't about to back down from it. And *that* is what your response reflected: I don't question that you had a shift of your internal state that was radical enough for you to associate it with the terms Maharishi used for higher states. My experience of the term is based on my own experiences with his programs, so we may differ on what we mean by the term 'enlightenment'. I'm not sure how clear Maharishi himself was on the concept of it or what he was experiencing. I am interested to understand the reasons you came to that conclusion, and whether or not there were reasons that would be compelling to someone else, like me. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280422 There's not a thing wrong with what you said in that quote. The deception is in your saying *now* that you thought *at the time* that he was beyond taking that part of [his] life seriously. Obviously you understood, then, that he *did* take it seriously. Equally obviously, however, he had no problem with your being skeptical. He's known from the start that it was extremely unlikely folks would accept that he'd been in Unity Consciousness simply on the basis of his say-so. By the same token, he wasn't going to *retract* his claim on the basis of somebody's unbelief. Again, Curtis, Robin's claim to enlightenment was *not* the basis of your disagreement and ultimately the collapse of your friendship. Here, just for kicks, is where your dialogue began to break down: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/292125 Not a thing about Robin's enlightenment in it. As he said in your recent exchange: All your comments about me are disingenuous and absurd. He found out about your disingenuty some time ago, the hard way. It's very tough to get back into a trusting sincere space with someone you've betrayed and continue to be willing to betray, even if you wanted to reoccupy that space. But you don't want to. You were only pretending to occupy it in the first place. Personal note: When I look at some of those very early exchanges between
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
Well Richard I haven't seen T20 live either - but I like it because it is dramatic like you say and the game only lasts 3 and half hours. I haven't played too much of it though it was my main outdoor sport as well - mostly with my brother because my mom would never let us play with the neighborhood kids because they were never good enough for her. But anyway I liked staying indoors - because I was very introverted, liked books and music, chess, cards, carrom - very nerdy. I liked your description of my bowling very much :-) - it was very close, corridor of uncertainty LOL. I'm not good at batting but was good at bowling and I was ambidextrous when I was young - could bowl both left and right armed. I got a chance to play cricket this past year - I had lot of fun and it was all bowling. Couldn't bowl fast left armed anymore - but could still bat both ways :-). If I had to take a guess based on your posts - you are probably a good bowler as well and a decent bat? Did you get a chance to watch England beat India this year - it wasn't fun for me. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:59 AM, PaliGap compost...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:11 AM, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: I've heard that one game of cricket can go on for hours and hours! Five days for a proper international match. Then again, the golfers at the Masters will be playing for four days. But you will at least have a result. Very often a five day cricket match will end in a draw. Five or so hours with a break for tea and cakes is par for the course for a friendly match between pub teams. Hey how about T20 - do you watch IPL? There aren't many English players around this season - of course KP's injured, he was in Delhi the other day cheering his team - I saw Eoin Morgan playing. I've seen a bit of T20 on the TV - but not live. Very dramatic I expect. Have you played much Ravi? It was my main sport in my youth. I wonder...I can imagine you as perhaps a left arm quickie. Maybe a whippy action off quite a short run? Bowling over the wicket you'd be slanting it across the orthodox right-hander, perhaps creating a little doubt in their mind as they reach to play or leave just outside the off stump in the 'corridor of uncertainty'. And maybe trying to get the odd one to hit the seam hard, rear alarmingly, and come back in at them? Just the thing to dislodge a stone-walling opening pair who are starting to look a bit too comfortable at the crease.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For True Cat Lovers Only
Here's a video for you dear Ann - http://youtu.be/bZKuvcwC6t8 On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Now, you tell me if you could have one of these in your house, to pet and cuddle. If so, you are a better person (or at least a stronger one) than me. Welcome to the world of hairless cats. And I know there are a lot of cat lovers here. They just make me want to cover them up with a knitted sweater or something. Poor little things. On second thought, I would want one, just so I could let it know it is loved despite its appearance. Did humans breed these or do they occur naturally? Surely not. (The nose on the bottom photo looks like the same one the Straw Man has in the Wizard of Oz.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy New Vedic Year!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: The Sun has entered Aries today. For us tropical heretics it enters Taurus within a week or so??
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
Thanks for this, you knew Curtis was twisting here since they were full of mutual admiration back then. Robin was certainly a very fascinating character but I couldn't understand Robin's fascination and admiration for Curtis when he came on board but then figured he would have to figure Curtis out for himself, which he did. I don't believe you and I ever interfered in their correspondence, I certainly never did and had zero interest in their dialogue at that point - I used to be too high anyway. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:06 PM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: ** In my earlier post dissecting Curtis's long post to Barry about Robin and Ann, I identified one HUGE lie from Curtis and promised to make a separate post about it. This is the massive lie: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: (snippola) My initial motivation for interacting with Robin was to see how a cult leader thought. At first he seemed to have a cool perspective on his previous life. I believe that my misread of his meaning when he made a big fuss about me NEVER questioning his enlightenment experience was pivotal. I thought he was doing schtick on being sensitive about it. He was not. When he sussed out that I was not gunna buy his interpretation of his glorious previous state of mind he turned on me. Curtis had said the same thing directly to Robin near the beginning of their most recent exchange: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: (snip) I have never gotten back to a trusting sincere space with you. It's funny, I was looking at some old posts from our beginning run and there was a comment you made that at the time I think I took completely the wrong way. You were saying that the one thing I must never do is question your enlightenment in the past. I realized now that I thought you were being snarky and self-effacing, making a joke about insisting that I take that seriously, you know wink, wink, nudge, nudge style. I thought it meant that you were beyond taking that part of your life seriously. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/339021 I'm going to respond to that earlier post: Yes, very funny, especially since it isn't true, Curtis. I looked up the post. I gather you didn't expect anyone to do that. In fact, Robin was indeed kidding about your not questioning his enlightenment--but not because he himself didn't take his enlightenment seriously. He was well aware that it was unlikely others, especially you, would do so. However, if you believed (mistakenly) at the time that he was beyond taking it seriously himself, as you claim, that was in no way reflected in your response. I don't think you did believe that. I think the purpose of the paragraph I quoted above was to try to make him look like a jerk by pretending he had made a big fuss about [you] NEVER questioning his enlightenment experience. Here's what he actually wrote: It's going to be fun, Curtis. I appreciate the warning and the hidden admonition. But don't you DARE question the truth of my enlightenment, OK? That's where we part company. Just be as flattering, fawning, and sycophantic as you can. When it comes to my beautiful achievement of Unity Consciousness. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280412 You knew exactly where he was coming from: he fully expected you to try to refute his claim--the phrasing I just quoted is obviously ironic--but he wasn't about to back down from it. And *that* is what your response reflected: I don't question that you had a shift of your internal state that was radical enough for you to associate it with the terms Maharishi used for higher states. My experience of the term is based on my own experiences with his programs, so we may differ on what we mean by the term 'enlightenment'. I'm not sure how clear Maharishi himself was on the concept of it or what he was experiencing. I am interested to understand the reasons you came to that conclusion, and whether or not there were reasons that would be compelling to someone else, like me. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280422 There's not a thing wrong with what you said in that quote. The deception is in your saying *now* that you thought *at the time* that he was beyond taking that part of [his] life seriously. Obviously you understood, then, that he *did* take it seriously. Equally obviously, however, he had no problem with your being skeptical. He's known from the start that it was extremely unlikely folks would accept that he'd been in Unity Consciousness simply on the basis of his say-so. By the same token, he wasn't going to *retract* his claim on the basis of somebody's unbelief. Again, Curtis, Robin's claim to enlightenment was *not* the basis of your disagreement and ultimately the collapse of your friendship.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy New Vedic Year!
John - There's very few in India who use Solar New Year, most including Jyotishis use the Soli-Lunar year, the first day of the month of Chaitra i.e. the new Moon, Sun-Moon conjunction in Sidereal Pisces - which was April 10th - Share had indicated that in her email from that day. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: ** and *From:* John jr_...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 13, 2013 12:08 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Happy New Vedic Year! ** The Sun has entered Aries today.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy New Vedic Year!
Ravi, Dr. Pillai is using the entrance of the Sun in Aries as the New Year in the Vedic tradition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG_sCmKXr9Q However, I am aware of the point you're making. We're appreciative that you're keeping a close watch on the accuracy of the facts being presented here on FFL. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: John - There's very few in India who use Solar New Year, most including Jyotishis use the Soli-Lunar year, the first day of the month of Chaitra i.e. the new Moon, Sun-Moon conjunction in Sidereal Pisces - which was April 10th - Share had indicated that in her email from that day. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: ** and *From:* John jr_esq@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 13, 2013 12:08 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Happy New Vedic Year! ** The Sun has entered Aries today.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy New Vedic Year!
Mike, Ordinarily, the Sun in Aries is excellent since it is exalted at that position. However, the Sun is conjunct with Mars and both are in opposition to Saturn and Rahu in Libra. IMO, this is going to create some trouble for the world. This is the reason why Kim Jong Un is acting belligerent to the USA and South Korea. Fortunately, Venus has also joined the conjunction in Aries. So, the North Korean leader may be open to a political negotiation to reduce the threat of a nuclear war. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: and From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 12:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Happy New Vedic Year! Â The Sun has entered Aries today.
[FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
Michael, I would appreciate you not make me wasting posts pointing out your ineptness. You were the one who raised the issue of the count. It has been more than one. Start the research if you want, and I'll finish it if necessary. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: You're the only one counting From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 3:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight! Â I bet its a minimum of four, and possibly six. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: As far as I remember I only tiraded about the Ballard frauds once From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight! ÃÂ seventhray is a carry over from the time (the few months I spent with The Saint Germain Foundation here is St. Louis)and also some of the literature I've read regarding the Ascended Masters. Now before MJ wets his pants with another (tired) tirade about Guy and Edna Ballard, or the fantasy of the Ascended Masters, it's nothing I really think about anymore, but I simply liked the concept of the seventhray. Well okay, the whole concept of Saint Germain, and the Ascended Masters is something I still keep in the back of my mind. Naturally it isn't anything I would bring up here because, you know, you bring this stuff here at your own risk. Plus, anything thoughts I have about it are quite personal. I wanted to be seventhray1, but it was taken. For a while I was seventhray2, but that ID got messed up when I changed my e-mail, so I just went with seventhray27 Ah, Roller Ball, aka Indian Ball. A couple years ago, we had a family whose house burned down in a predominantly black part of town, and their insurance payed for them to move into our neighborhood, (not that it's exclusive or anything, but its a historic neighborhood with many large homes settled by the wealthy German population who settled here. (Our home is quite a bit smaller, the original home having been destroyed in the 1900 tornado, and a smaller house built in it's place. Anyway there were about 6 kids living in that house who had never played any baseball, so that summer and fall, (before they moved back), I had fun teaching them how to ride a bike and playing catch, and hitting and throwing, riding a scooter, along with my kids of course. Good times! http://comptonheights.org/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Those were part of our rules, seventhray. What does seventhray stand for, if you don't mind me asking? Well, I guess I'll ask about significance of 27 also? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: There was also a version where at some point, someone would lay the bat down, and someone else would roll the ball in, and if it hit the bat and bounced up, and you were able to catch the ball on the bounce, you won that round,or got some points. But I can't remember the name of that game. So, when you say roller ball that also comes to mind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Carol jchwelch@ wrote: Seventhray...it is Indian Ball. I don't recall ever learning about that. Thank you. Share...fascinating about cellular memory/response and the skin cells. Do you know if this experiment was duplicated? I wonder if any responses are dependent on other factors such as individual's constitution or how much time the cells are detached from the body. This brings to mind Donna Eden's book on Energy Medicine and one of her accounts regarding an amputated finger. I'd have to look up the details now, but it seems their was communication between the finger and the hand from which it was amputated. I know energy medicine is controversial and some (most?) scientists tout it as pseudo science. One day maybe we will have the mechanisms for more reliable hard data. Regardless, once a person experiences something, it's difficult for one to deny that experience and remain stable. I mean, to deny it can produce a cognitive dissonance which can eventually be detrimental to one's well being. I think of one of Audubon's quotes: When the bird and the book disagree, always believe the bird. [But I'd take out the word always. ;) ] I posted in another FFL thread about Paul Pearsall. I think I posted about his interviews with organ transplant patients
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
As I pointed out earlier, Guilio Tononi's phi formula, if taken to its logical conclusion, supports Hagelin's assertion about the unified field and consciousness. Tononi doesn't like it when people do that, but he has to add in all sorts of exceptions to the formula to invalidate the conclusion. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: [...] For me, the serious question is why there is anything here at all. Once you've got your head round that the mechanics of how it all works will depend on measurement and an ability to accept that what we are looking at inside our brains translates into our conscious experiences. We haven't worked it out yet but so what? That doesn't mean we have to go running to the paranormal just because we haven't got an explanation, that's what kept our ancestors believing in god and astrology. It's a natural tendency but mistaken, especially as we can see individual thoughts as they occur. It's all globby and whirly and we are all going to have to deal with it sooner or later.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy New Vedic Year!
Thanks John - I figured you were aware of it. Pillai is a Keralite and Kerala is one of the very few places in India where they celebrate this Solar New Year - Vishu as they call it there. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:56 PM, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Ravi, Dr. Pillai is using the entrance of the Sun in Aries as the New Year in the Vedic tradition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG_sCmKXr9Q However, I am aware of the point you're making. We're appreciative that you're keeping a close watch on the accuracy of the facts being presented here on FFL. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: John - There's very few in India who use Solar New Year, most including Jyotishis use the Soli-Lunar year, the first day of the month of Chaitra i.e. the new Moon, Sun-Moon conjunction in Sidereal Pisces - which was April 10th - Share had indicated that in her email from that day. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: ** and *From:* John jr_esq@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 13, 2013 12:08 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Happy New Vedic Year! ** The Sun has entered Aries today.
Re: [FairfieldLife] For True Cat Lovers Only
Even better - the Sphynx kittens and the whole Too Cute playlist !!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWT7aNofciolist=PL5075BB69F757047E On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Here's a video for you dear Ann - http://youtu.be/bZKuvcwC6t8 On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Now, you tell me if you could have one of these in your house, to pet and cuddle. If so, you are a better person (or at least a stronger one) than me. Welcome to the world of hairless cats. And I know there are a lot of cat lovers here. They just make me want to cover them up with a knitted sweater or something. Poor little things. On second thought, I would want one, just so I could let it know it is loved despite its appearance. Did humans breed these or do they occur naturally? Surely not. (The nose on the bottom photo looks like the same one the Straw Man has in the Wizard of Oz.)
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Sun 14-Apr-13 00:15:03 UTC
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 04/13/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 04/20/13 00:00:00 95 messages as of (UTC) 04/14/13 00:06:31 15 authfriend 12 Buck 9 Ann 7 Share Long 6 Ravi Chivukula 6 Bhairitu 5 seventhray27 5 Michael Jackson 5 John 4 Carol 3 PaliGap 3 Alex Stanley 2 salyavin808 2 doctordumbass 2 curtisdeltablues 2 card 2 Richard J. Williams 1 turquoiseb 1 sparaig 1 nablusoss1008 1 Rick Archer 1 Mike Dixon Posters: 22 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: For True Cat Lovers Only
Thanks Ravi. See, even the Chinese crested puppy was cuter than the Sphynx kittens. They just aren't quite doing it for me, I am a certified 'dog person'. Maybe when I'm enlightened I'll come to appreciate them more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Even better - the Sphynx kittens and the whole Too Cute playlist !!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWT7aNofciolist=PL5075BB69F757047E On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...wrote: Here's a video for you dear Ann - http://youtu.be/bZKuvcwC6t8 On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: ** Now, you tell me if you could have one of these in your house, to pet and cuddle. If so, you are a better person (or at least a stronger one) than me. Welcome to the world of hairless cats. And I know there are a lot of cat lovers here. They just make me want to cover them up with a knitted sweater or something. Poor little things. On second thought, I would want one, just so I could let it know it is loved despite its appearance. Did humans breed these or do they occur naturally? Surely not. (The nose on the bottom photo looks like the same one the Straw Man has in the Wizard of Oz.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a blue world, back into a green one
Wonderful description of your cruise, Doc, thanks. I am very glad you enjoyed it all so much. Now, for a picture of you in that tee shirt... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Thanks! YES! More than exceeded my expectations, from every angle. It was equal parts, adventurous, disruptive, seductive, and colorful, so very very fun, and informative! Also, every turn inside the ship or out, was a postcard view. If I can figure out how to post a link to my photos, I will - took around 800 good ones. An instant memory of a lifetime. It was a sedate, refined environment, with the demographic centered around 50 or so, some older, and a lot younger too. And it is an incredibly huge and varied space on the vessel, beautifully designed, so crowd, or quiet, is a choice, vs. a scramble. We surprised ourselves by never going to the formal dining rooms - the food was so good, so varied, and so plentiful everywhere else, that there was no need to. There is an excellent library on board, and I actually had the time to read a book, with real paper pages, cover to cover. Best drink was a Beverly Hills Ice Tea; vodka, rum, tequila, gin, citrus, and sparkling wine (US$7.95). My tolerance is pretty good, though the one I had took me two hours (!) to finish, which wasn't a bad thing. Didn't drink a lot at the bars on board or otherwise, and the tequila price, for value, we can get at the local Costco, is competitive with that sold at a tequila factory we visited, outside Puerto Vallarta. We still drank the obligatory samples of course. Among some truly beautiful and amazing purchases, I also picked up a t-shirt in Cabo that tastefully queries, Where the fuck was I last night? - Cabo San Lucas, Mexico. I saw it in a shop window on the pier as we were leaving for our excursion, tastefully in black and white. On the way back, some of the stores had closed, but this one was open! My wife has vowed to never be seen in public, with me wearing it - not sure yet if *I* want to be seen in public, with me wearing it... When I made the arrangements four months ago, I envisioned this cruise as a portal, from my old life, mostly work-based, with its rigid schedules, and quick rates of achievement, to my new life, where the grid of responsibilities has largely been replaced by simple expediency, wants and needs. My labor/leisure ratio has gone from 75/25, to about 20/80. So far, so good, and we really want to do this again, or perhaps a train ride next. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: Welcome back. I was thinking about you out there on the ocean somewhere. Was it as wonderful as you had hoped? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Loved the ocean, and experienced all of her, sunny days where an hour gets you a deep tan, to thudding through thirty foot waves on the way home. 3,000 miles in ten days, with 2,600 passengers. The first song is called Princess At Sea. Same fleet as the original Love Boat - kept asking for Captain Stueben, to no avail. Didn't see Ike either...Started composing this on deck one morning around 5:30: https://www.box.com/s/x99kl70nh60gjkydg2st copyright temple dog The next song is called Princess In Port. Impressions. Visited Catalina Island, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo San Lucas, and San Diego, then back to SF: https://www.box.com/s/ukuw1b766qcefwa856uk copyright temple dog The voyage is like one fluid set of hatha yoga exercises, always reacting subtly, with every muscle, to the waves and wind, gently and cleanly moving assumptions of the physical world aside. Very much a journey back through time for me, too, as my father was working in Mexico when I was born near San Diego. Many of the crew were from The Philippines and Indonesia, where I grew up, so it was easy to start a conversation that way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Thanks for this, you knew Curtis was twisting here since they were full of mutual admiration back then. Robin was certainly a very fascinating character but I couldn't understand Robin's fascination and admiration for Curtis when he came on board but then figured he would have to figure Curtis out for himself, which he did. Curtis was on his very best behavior, at his most charming, with Robin at first. Their dialogue was really scintillating, some of the best I've seen on any Web forum. It was beautiful to see how much Robin was enjoying himself after his bleak quarter-century in virtual exile. He just expanded like a flower. I had no clue what was going to happen down the road. Even after they first began to fall out, reading their exchanges was like watching a highly competitive contest between two extremely skilled players. After each post, you couldn't wait to see how the other guy could possibly top it. I don't believe you and I ever interfered in their correspondence, I certainly never did At one point toward the end I became a topic of their arguments, and I had to step in and correct some things Curtis said about me that were not accurate. But otherwise I just soaked up their brilliance. and had zero interest in their dialogue at that point - I used to be too high anyway. Yeah, you were doing your own thing. If you ever have a dull patch, though, go back and take a look at their exchanges. Terrifically entertaining, and heart-wrenching to watch it crash and burn.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Undiagnosed celiac disease
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: Gawd... that's TMI even for me. Yes, it seems the lack of gluten has rendered carde very liberal with the descriptions of his personal situation. And I thought it was only me who a little shocked. Maybe certain men here could dispense with the Viagra by simply cutting out gluten. It's worth a try. But then, no one here NEEDS Viagra, I'm sure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@ wrote: After hearing on TV a young M.D. tell, that all his allergy symptoms had disappeared after his starting gluten free diet, I decided to give it a try. Some of the results: 1. Within two days of starting it, became so horny that had to spank the monkey in the night because couldn't sleep due to that. I gather that might somehow be associated with the liver and its production several hormones?? Usually I only jerk off for fun, not because I have no choice! Also my armpits and balls started sweating much more than they usually do. Somehow felt like a teenage chap for those reasons. 2. The irritation in my lungs caused by room dust became over 80% less, I'd say. 3. (Unstressing?) The worst lower back pain for years, but mainly only positional(?). That might be just a coincidence... 4. During the night my hands became so hot I thought I'd done g-tummo without realising it, LOL! Prolly associated with number 1. So, for undiagnosed celiac brahmacaarins that gluten free diet might be extremely challenging. Even they need sleep, y'know? :-) http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2796.1999.00403.x/full
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Eternal Freedom, it's a wonderful thing. The fact is it can take some spiritual discipline to get there from here, as in a life well lived. From the Gita somewhere: Disciplined people, freed from [attachments], who have disciplined their thoughts and have realized the Unified Field, find eternal freedom in divine consciousness everywhere. Having left external contacts outside; with the vision within the eyebrows; having balanced the ingoing and outgoing breaths that flow through the nostrils, The seers, whose sins are destroyed, whose doubts are dispelled, who are self-controlled and take delight in doing good to all creatures, attain eternal freedom in divine consciousness. What? You're not a seer? What [in hell] on earth have you been doing with your life? Sage advice, The sage, whose senses, mind and intellect are controlled, whose aim is liberation, from whom desire, fear and anger have departed, is indeed for ever free. There's a beautiful hymn from the Christian tradition about this Unified Field thing on earth as it is in heaven: In the Unified Field- Salvation, Om the joyful sound! 'Tis pleasure to my ears; A sov'reign balm for ev'ry wound, A cordial for our fears. Buried in sorrow and in sin At hell's dark door we lay; But we arise by grace divine To see a heav'nly day. Salvation! Let the echo fly The spacious earth around; While all the armies of the sky Conspire to raise the sound. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, And if you read these books it appears, also, for the dead (but not gone). -Buck in the Dome When the mind, through the practice of transcendental meditation, rises to the state of cosmic consciousness, absolute Field becomes permanently established in the nature of the mind, and it attains the state of Unified Field, the universal state of Being. Then the mind finds itself on a level of life from which all the gross and subtle levels of creation can be stimulated, controlled and commanded. It's a wonderful thing in Fairfield having the campus radio station to listen to. I came out of the Dome meditation this morning and there was this above discussion from the Gita on the truck radio as me and my farm sheep dog drove along. It's true. -Buck, at home and out standing in his Field
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy New Vedic Year!
Oh and Dr. Pillai can talk all he wants about Sun - but every Jyotishi worth his salt knows Sun stands for the Atma, purusha and Moon for jiva (atma), Prakriti, the play of the Purusha and Prakriti representing the metaphor for creation . Hence Soli-Lunar year is the way to if you stand by the principles of Hindu philosophy. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks John - I figured you were aware of it. Pillai is a Keralite and Kerala is one of the very few places in India where they celebrate this Solar New Year - Vishu as they call it there. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:56 PM, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Ravi, Dr. Pillai is using the entrance of the Sun in Aries as the New Year in the Vedic tradition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG_sCmKXr9Q However, I am aware of the point you're making. We're appreciative that you're keeping a close watch on the accuracy of the facts being presented here on FFL. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: John - There's very few in India who use Solar New Year, most including Jyotishis use the Soli-Lunar year, the first day of the month of Chaitra i.e. the new Moon, Sun-Moon conjunction in Sidereal Pisces - which was April 10th - Share had indicated that in her email from that day. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: ** and *From:* John jr_esq@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 13, 2013 12:08 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Happy New Vedic Year! ** The Sun has entered Aries today.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
Really nice hymn on the general subject. Though very Sorry Nablusoss, it's a hillbilly from the mountains of western Massachusetts. The alto singer is fabulous. -Buck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u50IoS2nY7Ilist=PL0A66F691478F74EE And am I born to die? To lay this body down! And must my trembling spirit fly Into a world unknown? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Eternal Freedom, it's a wonderful thing. The fact is it can take some spiritual discipline to get there from here, as in a life well lived. From the Gita somewhere: Disciplined people, freed from [attachments], who have disciplined their thoughts and have realized the Unified Field, find eternal freedom in divine consciousness everywhere. Having left external contacts outside; with the vision within the eyebrows; having balanced the ingoing and outgoing breaths that flow through the nostrils, The seers, whose sins are destroyed, whose doubts are dispelled, who are self-controlled and take delight in doing good to all creatures, attain eternal freedom in divine consciousness. What? You're not a seer? What [in hell] on earth have you been doing with your life? Sage advice, The sage, whose senses, mind and intellect are controlled, whose aim is liberation, from whom desire, fear and anger have departed, is indeed for ever free. There's a beautiful hymn from the Christian tradition about this Unified Field thing on earth as it is in heaven: In the Unified Field- Salvation, Om the joyful sound! 'Tis pleasure to my ears; A sov'reign balm for ev'ry wound, A cordial for our fears. Buried in sorrow and in sin At hell's dark door we lay; But we arise by grace divine To see a heav'nly day. Salvation! Let the echo fly The spacious earth around; While all the armies of the sky Conspire to raise the sound. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, And if you read these books it appears, also, for the dead (but not gone). -Buck in the Dome When the mind, through the practice of transcendental meditation, rises to the state of cosmic consciousness, absolute Field becomes permanently established in the nature of the mind, and it attains the state of Unified Field, the universal state of Being. Then the mind finds itself on a level of life from which all the gross and subtle levels of creation can be stimulated, controlled and commanded. It's a wonderful thing in Fairfield having the campus radio station to listen to. I came out of the Dome meditation this morning and there was this above discussion from the Gita on the truck radio as me and my farm sheep dog drove along. It's true. -Buck, at home and out standing in his Field
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ
Goddamn it! Stop this death of MJ thread! It makes me nervous! From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ Really nice hymn on the general subject. Though very Sorry Nablusoss, it's a hillbilly from the mountains of western Massachusetts. The alto singer is fabulous. -Buck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u50IoS2nY7Ilist=PL0A66F691478F74EE And am I born to die? To lay this body down! And must my trembling spirit fly Into a world unknown? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Eternal Freedom, it's a wonderful thing. The fact is it can take some spiritual discipline to get there from here, as in a life well lived. From the Gita somewhere: Disciplined people, freed from [attachments], who have disciplined their thoughts and have realized the Unified Field, find eternal freedom in divine consciousness everywhere. Having left external contacts outside; with the vision within the eyebrows; having balanced the ingoing and outgoing breaths that flow through the nostrils, The seers, whose sins are destroyed, whose doubts are dispelled, who are self-controlled and take delight in doing good to all creatures, attain eternal freedom in divine consciousness. What? You're not a seer? What [in hell] on earth have you been doing with your life? Sage advice, The sage, whose senses, mind and intellect are controlled, whose aim is liberation, from whom desire, fear and anger have departed, is indeed for ever free. There's a beautiful hymn from the Christian tradition about this Unified Field thing on earth as it is in heaven: In the Unified Field- Salvation, Om the joyful sound! 'Tis pleasure to my ears; A sov'reign balm for ev'ry wound, A cordial for our fears. Buried in sorrow and in sin At hell's dark door we lay; But we arise by grace divine To see a heav'nly day. Salvation! Let the echo fly The spacious earth around; While all the armies of the sky Conspire to raise the sound. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, And if you read these books it appears, also, for the dead (but not gone). -Buck in the Dome When the mind, through the practice of transcendental meditation, rises to the state of cosmic consciousness, absolute Field becomes permanently established in the nature of the mind, and it attains the state of Unified Field, the universal state of Being. Then the mind finds itself on a level of life from which all the gross and subtle levels of creation can be stimulated, controlled and commanded. It's a wonderful thing in Fairfield having the campus radio station to listen to. I came out of the Dome meditation this morning and there was this above discussion from the Gita on the truck radio as me and my farm sheep dog drove along. It's true. -Buck, at home and out standing in his Field
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
One thing I will say. No one can best Judy at analysis, sticking to facts or ultimately backing them up. You know why? Not because she is necessarily smarter, not because she is better at knowing how to access archives but because she doesn't appear to have a lazy bone in her body. Caring has something to do with it as well. Caring about accuracy and reality as it stands here, in print, in English, here at FFL (Share?). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: In my earlier post dissecting Curtis's long post to Barry about Robin and Ann, I identified one HUGE lie from Curtis and promised to make a separate post about it. This is the massive lie: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: (snippola) My initial motivation for interacting with Robin was to see how a cult leader thought. At first he seemed to have a cool perspective on his previous life. I believe that my misread of his meaning when he made a big fuss about me NEVER questioning his enlightenment experience was pivotal. I thought he was doing schtick on being sensitive about it. He was not. When he sussed out that I was not gunna buy his interpretation of his glorious previous state of mind he turned on me. Curtis had said the same thing directly to Robin near the beginning of their most recent exchange: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: (snip) I have never gotten back to a trusting sincere space with you. It's funny, I was looking at some old posts from our beginning run and there was a comment you made that at the time I think I took completely the wrong way. You were saying that the one thing I must never do is question your enlightenment in the past. I realized now that I thought you were being snarky and self-effacing, making a joke about insisting that I take that seriously, you know wink, wink, nudge, nudge style. I thought it meant that you were beyond taking that part of your life seriously. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/339021 I'm going to respond to that earlier post: Yes, very funny, especially since it isn't true, Curtis. I looked up the post. I gather you didn't expect anyone to do that. In fact, Robin was indeed kidding about your not questioning his enlightenment--but not because he himself didn't take his enlightenment seriously. He was well aware that it was unlikely others, especially you, would do so. However, if you believed (mistakenly) at the time that he was beyond taking it seriously himself, as you claim, that was in no way reflected in your response. I don't think you did believe that. I think the purpose of the paragraph I quoted above was to try to make him look like a jerk by pretending he had made a big fuss about [you] NEVER questioning his enlightenment experience. Here's what he actually wrote: It's going to be fun, Curtis. I appreciate the warning and the hidden admonition. But don't you DARE question the truth of my enlightenment, OK? That's where we part company. Just be as flattering, fawning, and sycophantic as you can. When it comes to my beautiful achievement of Unity Consciousness. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280412 You knew exactly where he was coming from: he fully expected you to try to refute his claim--the phrasing I just quoted is obviously ironic--but he wasn't about to back down from it. And *that* is what your response reflected: I don't question that you had a shift of your internal state that was radical enough for you to associate it with the terms Maharishi used for higher states. My experience of the term is based on my own experiences with his programs, so we may differ on what we mean by the term 'enlightenment'. I'm not sure how clear Maharishi himself was on the concept of it or what he was experiencing. I am interested to understand the reasons you came to that conclusion, and whether or not there were reasons that would be compelling to someone else, like me. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280422 There's not a thing wrong with what you said in that quote. The deception is in your saying *now* that you thought *at the time* that he was beyond taking that part of [his] life seriously. Obviously you understood, then, that he *did* take it seriously. Equally obviously, however, he had no problem with your being skeptical. He's known from the start that it was extremely unlikely folks would accept that he'd been in Unity Consciousness simply on the basis of his say-so. By the same token, he wasn't going to *retract* his claim on the basis of somebody's unbelief. Again, Curtis, Robin's claim to enlightenment was *not* the basis of your disagreement and ultimately the collapse of your friendship. Here, just for kicks, is where your dialogue began to
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
I'm only a lurker in this dialog. I haven't read all the exchanges that have gone on in the latest conflict. Until these last few posts, I knew next to nothing about what you have expounded here Judy. Thanks for filling in some history for me. I don't know if I will go back and read all of the recent conflict or the prior history, but at least I have a place to start if I decide to. Reading the bit I have as I have lurked, the dialog is all too familiar within the anti-cult circles I've had brushes with. Projection. Sidestepping accountability for one's words. Speculating of other people's motives. As I've read, I've not been sure who to believe and wondered why I even care. I thought how I sometimes long for innocence and wish to be an ostrich...as trite and childish as that may sound. I wrote some thoughts earlier after reading Judy's initial post today, trying to work through some of the muddle in my own head as I've read bits of this recent conflict. In writing those thoughts, I wondered why am I muddled? Why does this stuff even matter to me? Should I state anything publicly? Will I sound foolish? What if I do sound foolish, what difference does it really make? Has some of the dialog 'triggered' my own stuff that I am still working through after my involvement in a 'cult' and certain anti-cult 'cults?' I questioned my own biases and fairness. Do I judge other's motives? How much do I project? How much do my biases play into reading others? Like others, my own experiences have caused me to be less trusting of others; I already had been well trained to not trust my self and was gaining much ground in that area until the Knapp crap. I have picked up many of those pieces, but reading this recent dialog brought some of that stuff up again. Years ago, Judy had read Knapp correctly and called him out. I won't go into how I had rationalized the Knapp I thought I knew when I first came to FFL in 2010(?) or maybe it was 2009(?) and read some of Judy's posts calling Knapp out. I would never (at that time) have imagined she would be so spot on. But she was. Could she be right again? I'll stop here... A few of my muddled thoughts...for what they're worth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Thanks for this, you knew Curtis was twisting here since they were full of mutual admiration back then. Robin was certainly a very fascinating character but I couldn't understand Robin's fascination and admiration for Curtis when he came on board but then figured he would have to figure Curtis out for himself, which he did. Curtis was on his very best behavior, at his most charming, with Robin at first. Their dialogue was really scintillating, some of the best I've seen on any Web forum. It was beautiful to see how much Robin was enjoying himself after his bleak quarter-century in virtual exile. He just expanded like a flower. I had no clue what was going to happen down the road. Even after they first began to fall out, reading their exchanges was like watching a highly competitive contest between two extremely skilled players. After each post, you couldn't wait to see how the other guy could possibly top it. I don't believe you and I ever interfered in their correspondence, I certainly never did At one point toward the end I became a topic of their arguments, and I had to step in and correct some things Curtis said about me that were not accurate. But otherwise I just soaked up their brilliance. and had zero interest in their dialogue at that point - I used to be too high anyway. Yeah, you were doing your own thing. If you ever have a dull patch, though, go back and take a look at their exchanges. Terrifically entertaining, and heart-wrenching to watch it crash and burn.
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
It's astonishing to me that anyone would care so much, and put so much time into it. I find it bizarre and obsessive. Most peculiar. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: One thing I will say. No one can best Judy at analysis, sticking to facts or ultimately backing them up. You know why? Not because she is necessarily smarter, not because she is better at knowing how to access archives but because she doesn't appear to have a lazy bone in her body. Caring has something to do with it as well. Caring about accuracy and reality as it stands here, in print, in English, here at FFL (Share?). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: In my earlier post dissecting Curtis's long post to Barry about Robin and Ann, I identified one HUGE lie from Curtis and promised to make a separate post about it. This is the massive lie: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: (snippola) My initial motivation for interacting with Robin was to see how a cult leader thought. At first he seemed to have a cool perspective on his previous life. I believe that my misread of his meaning when he made a big fuss about me NEVER questioning his enlightenment experience was pivotal. I thought he was doing schtick on being sensitive about it. He was not. When he sussed out that I was not gunna buy his interpretation of his glorious previous state of mind he turned on me. Curtis had said the same thing directly to Robin near the beginning of their most recent exchange: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: (snip) I have never gotten back to a trusting sincere space with you. It's funny, I was looking at some old posts from our beginning run and there was a comment you made that at the time I think I took completely the wrong way. You were saying that the one thing I must never do is question your enlightenment in the past. I realized now that I thought you were being snarky and self-effacing, making a joke about insisting that I take that seriously, you know wink, wink, nudge, nudge style. I thought it meant that you were beyond taking that part of your life seriously. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/339021 I'm going to respond to that earlier post: Yes, very funny, especially since it isn't true, Curtis. I looked up the post. I gather you didn't expect anyone to do that. In fact, Robin was indeed kidding about your not questioning his enlightenment--but not because he himself didn't take his enlightenment seriously. He was well aware that it was unlikely others, especially you, would do so. However, if you believed (mistakenly) at the time that he was beyond taking it seriously himself, as you claim, that was in no way reflected in your response. I don't think you did believe that. I think the purpose of the paragraph I quoted above was to try to make him look like a jerk by pretending he had made a big fuss about [you] NEVER questioning his enlightenment experience. Here's what he actually wrote: It's going to be fun, Curtis. I appreciate the warning and the hidden admonition. But don't you DARE question the truth of my enlightenment, OK? That's where we part company. Just be as flattering, fawning, and sycophantic as you can. When it comes to my beautiful achievement of Unity Consciousness. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280412 You knew exactly where he was coming from: he fully expected you to try to refute his claim--the phrasing I just quoted is obviously ironic--but he wasn't about to back down from it. And *that* is what your response reflected: I don't question that you had a shift of your internal state that was radical enough for you to associate it with the terms Maharishi used for higher states. My experience of the term is based on my own experiences with his programs, so we may differ on what we mean by the term 'enlightenment'. I'm not sure how clear Maharishi himself was on the concept of it or what he was experiencing. I am interested to understand the reasons you came to that conclusion, and whether or not there were reasons that would be compelling to someone else, like me. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280422 There's not a thing wrong with what you said in that quote. The deception is in your saying *now* that you thought *at the time* that he was beyond taking that part of [his] life seriously. Obviously you understood, then, that he *did* take it seriously. Equally obviously, however, he had no problem with your being skeptical. He's known from the start that it was extremely unlikely folks would accept that he'd been in Unity Consciousness simply on the basis
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
Hi Carol - this was a very beautiful post, lot of intelligence in it. I have talked about this before - the strength of Judy is her clear intellect - this amazing ability to detect inconsistencies even from online posts and her ability to not let any discomfort, bias of her own in expressing what she believes to be right. And I have actual experience, evidence of this back from Dec 2011 And to comment on one of you lines I thought how I sometimes long for innocence and wish to be an ostrich...as trite and childish as that may sound. Yes innocence will inevitably be lost - but there does exist a state where innocence is regained - a beautiful state of vulnerability where one is innocent and also totally aware of that innocence. And the way is not to be an Ostrich and not let any discomfort, bias, fear, insecurity of our own in confronting the truth and letting that pain, suffering lead us to that state. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Carol jchwe...@gmail.com wrote: ** I'm only a lurker in this dialog. I haven't read all the exchanges that have gone on in the latest conflict. Until these last few posts, I knew next to nothing about what you have expounded here Judy. Thanks for filling in some history for me. I don't know if I will go back and read all of the recent conflict or the prior history, but at least I have a place to start if I decide to. Reading the bit I have as I have lurked, the dialog is all too familiar within the anti-cult circles I've had brushes with. Projection. Sidestepping accountability for one's words. Speculating of other people's motives. As I've read, I've not been sure who to believe and wondered why I even care. I thought how I sometimes long for innocence and wish to be an ostrich...as trite and childish as that may sound. I wrote some thoughts earlier after reading Judy's initial post today, trying to work through some of the muddle in my own head as I've read bits of this recent conflict. In writing those thoughts, I wondered why am I muddled? Why does this stuff even matter to me? Should I state anything publicly? Will I sound foolish? What if I do sound foolish, what difference does it really make? Has some of the dialog 'triggered' my own stuff that I am still working through after my involvement in a 'cult' and certain anti-cult 'cults?' I questioned my own biases and fairness. Do I judge other's motives? How much do I project? How much do my biases play into reading others? Like others, my own experiences have caused me to be less trusting of others; I already had been well trained to not trust my self and was gaining much ground in that area until the Knapp crap. I have picked up many of those pieces, but reading this recent dialog brought some of that stuff up again. Years ago, Judy had read Knapp correctly and called him out. I won't go into how I had rationalized the Knapp I thought I knew when I first came to FFL in 2010(?) or maybe it was 2009(?) and read some of Judy's posts calling Knapp out. I would never (at that time) have imagined she would be so spot on. But she was. Could she be right again? I'll stop here... A few of my muddled thoughts...for what they're worth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Thanks for this, you knew Curtis was twisting here since they were full of mutual admiration back then. Robin was certainly a very fascinating character but I couldn't understand Robin's fascination and admiration for Curtis when he came on board but then figured he would have to figure Curtis out for himself, which he did. Curtis was on his very best behavior, at his most charming, with Robin at first. Their dialogue was really scintillating, some of the best I've seen on any Web forum. It was beautiful to see how much Robin was enjoying himself after his bleak quarter-century in virtual exile. He just expanded like a flower. I had no clue what was going to happen down the road. Even after they first began to fall out, reading their exchanges was like watching a highly competitive contest between two extremely skilled players. After each post, you couldn't wait to see how the other guy could possibly top it. I don't believe you and I ever interfered in their correspondence, I certainly never did At one point toward the end I became a topic of their arguments, and I had to step in and correct some things Curtis said about me that were not accurate. But otherwise I just soaked up their brilliance. and had zero interest in their dialogue at that point - I used to be too high anyway. Yeah, you were doing your own thing. If you ever have a dull patch, though, go back and take a look at their exchanges. Terrifically entertaining, and heart-wrenching to watch it crash and burn.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
Nothing astonishing and peculiar about your post - you show zero intelligence and effort in understanding any of the conflict here, you have strong opinions even as you admit that you don't have time to read any of the posts. No worries you have company - you and Steve should interact more. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:45 PM, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote: ** It's astonishing to me that anyone would care so much, and put so much time into it. I find it bizarre and obsessive. Most peculiar. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: One thing I will say. No one can best Judy at analysis, sticking to facts or ultimately backing them up. You know why? Not because she is necessarily smarter, not because she is better at knowing how to access archives but because she doesn't appear to have a lazy bone in her body. Caring has something to do with it as well. Caring about accuracy and reality as it stands here, in print, in English, here at FFL (Share?). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: In my earlier post dissecting Curtis's long post to Barry about Robin and Ann, I identified one HUGE lie from Curtis and promised to make a separate post about it. This is the massive lie: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: (snippola) My initial motivation for interacting with Robin was to see how a cult leader thought. At first he seemed to have a cool perspective on his previous life. I believe that my misread of his meaning when he made a big fuss about me NEVER questioning his enlightenment experience was pivotal. I thought he was doing schtick on being sensitive about it. He was not. When he sussed out that I was not gunna buy his interpretation of his glorious previous state of mind he turned on me. Curtis had said the same thing directly to Robin near the beginning of their most recent exchange: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: (snip) I have never gotten back to a trusting sincere space with you. It's funny, I was looking at some old posts from our beginning run and there was a comment you made that at the time I think I took completely the wrong way. You were saying that the one thing I must never do is question your enlightenment in the past. I realized now that I thought you were being snarky and self-effacing, making a joke about insisting that I take that seriously, you know wink, wink, nudge, nudge style. I thought it meant that you were beyond taking that part of your life seriously. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/339021 I'm going to respond to that earlier post: Yes, very funny, especially since it isn't true, Curtis. I looked up the post. I gather you didn't expect anyone to do that. In fact, Robin was indeed kidding about your not questioning his enlightenment--but not because he himself didn't take his enlightenment seriously. He was well aware that it was unlikely others, especially you, would do so. However, if you believed (mistakenly) at the time that he was beyond taking it seriously himself, as you claim, that was in no way reflected in your response. I don't think you did believe that. I think the purpose of the paragraph I quoted above was to try to make him look like a jerk by pretending he had made a big fuss about [you] NEVER questioning his enlightenment experience. Here's what he actually wrote: It's going to be fun, Curtis. I appreciate the warning and the hidden admonition. But don't you DARE question the truth of my enlightenment, OK? That's where we part company. Just be as flattering, fawning, and sycophantic as you can. When it comes to my beautiful achievement of Unity Consciousness. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280412 You knew exactly where he was coming from: he fully expected you to try to refute his claim--the phrasing I just quoted is obviously ironic--but he wasn't about to back down from it. And *that* is what your response reflected: I don't question that you had a shift of your internal state that was radical enough for you to associate it with the terms Maharishi used for higher states. My experience of the term is based on my own experiences with his programs, so we may differ on what we mean by the term 'enlightenment'. I'm not sure how clear Maharishi himself was on the concept of it or what he was experiencing. I am interested to understand the reasons you came to that conclusion, and whether or not there were reasons that would be compelling to someone else, like me. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280422 There's not a thing wrong with what you said in that
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Death and dying book review For MJ
This is exactly what I was thinking. MJ - you may be obsessive and paranoid in your ani-TM rants but calling for your death was too harsh..LOL. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Goddamn it! Stop this death of MJ thread! It makes me nervous! -- *From:* Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:53 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Death For MJ Really nice hymn on the general subject. Though very Sorry Nablusoss, it's a hillbilly from the mountains of western Massachusetts. The alto singer is fabulous. -Buck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u50IoS2nY7Ilist=PL0A66F691478F74EE And am I born to die? To lay this body down! And must my trembling spirit fly Into a world unknown? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Eternal Freedom, it's a wonderful thing. The fact is it can take some spiritual discipline to get there from here, as in a life well lived. From the Gita somewhere: Disciplined people, freed from [attachments], who have disciplined their thoughts and have realized the Unified Field, find eternal freedom in divine consciousness everywhere. Having left external contacts outside; with the vision within the eyebrows; having balanced the ingoing and outgoing breaths that flow through the nostrils, The seers, whose sins are destroyed, whose doubts are dispelled, who are self-controlled and take delight in doing good to all creatures, attain eternal freedom in divine consciousness. What? You're not a seer? What [in hell] on earth have you been doing with your life? Sage advice, The sage, whose senses, mind and intellect are controlled, whose aim is liberation, from whom desire, fear and anger have departed, is indeed for ever free. There's a beautiful hymn from the Christian tradition about this Unified Field thing on earth as it is in heaven: In the Unified Field- Salvation, Om the joyful sound! 'Tis pleasure to my ears; A sov'reign balm for ev'ry wound, A cordial for our fears. Buried in sorrow and in sin At hell's dark door we lay; But we arise by grace divine To see a heav'nly day. Salvation! Let the echo fly The spacious earth around; While all the armies of the sky Conspire to raise the sound. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: I'm about halfway through 'Dying To Be Me'. So far so good. Emily, you might want to pick this one up. I'll let you know when I get this finished Michael. Yes, demographically very topical. There's been a bunch of meditators dying to get out of here recently in Fairfield. It seems there is a memorial every other day to go to. Life goes on for the living, And if you read these books it appears, also, for the dead (but not gone). -Buck in the Dome When the mind, through the practice of transcendental meditation, rises to the state of cosmic consciousness, absolute Field becomes permanently established in the nature of the mind, and it attains the state of Unified Field, the universal state of Being. Then the mind finds itself on a level of life from which all the gross and subtle levels of creation can be stimulated, controlled and commanded. It's a wonderful thing in Fairfield having the campus radio station to listen to. I came out of the Dome meditation this morning and there was this above discussion from the Gita on the truck radio as me and my farm sheep dog drove along. It's true. -Buck, at home and out standing in his Field
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: It's astonishing to me that anyone would care so much, and put so much time into it. I find it bizarre and obsessive. Most peculiar. When you think about it, it is not so peculiar or bizarre. Many here take great umbrage at other's posts, at their opinion on things. Great calamities and arguments and dissension often follows. A huge amount of energy and angst is often generated with arguing and reasoning and back pedalling. It is a very contentious forum. So when one can actually access archives or proof of various statements or events that happened in the past that might possibly soothe the masses this seems worthwhile to me - not bizarre and obsessive. We are, presumably, about communicating here. It would be nice if we could all get it right at least half the time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: One thing I will say. No one can best Judy at analysis, sticking to facts or ultimately backing them up. You know why? Not because she is necessarily smarter, not because she is better at knowing how to access archives but because she doesn't appear to have a lazy bone in her body. Caring has something to do with it as well. Caring about accuracy and reality as it stands here, in print, in English, here at FFL (Share?). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: In my earlier post dissecting Curtis's long post to Barry about Robin and Ann, I identified one HUGE lie from Curtis and promised to make a separate post about it. This is the massive lie: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: (snippola) My initial motivation for interacting with Robin was to see how a cult leader thought. At first he seemed to have a cool perspective on his previous life. I believe that my misread of his meaning when he made a big fuss about me NEVER questioning his enlightenment experience was pivotal. I thought he was doing schtick on being sensitive about it. He was not. When he sussed out that I was not gunna buy his interpretation of his glorious previous state of mind he turned on me. Curtis had said the same thing directly to Robin near the beginning of their most recent exchange: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: (snip) I have never gotten back to a trusting sincere space with you. It's funny, I was looking at some old posts from our beginning run and there was a comment you made that at the time I think I took completely the wrong way. You were saying that the one thing I must never do is question your enlightenment in the past. I realized now that I thought you were being snarky and self-effacing, making a joke about insisting that I take that seriously, you know wink, wink, nudge, nudge style. I thought it meant that you were beyond taking that part of your life seriously. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/339021 I'm going to respond to that earlier post: Yes, very funny, especially since it isn't true, Curtis. I looked up the post. I gather you didn't expect anyone to do that. In fact, Robin was indeed kidding about your not questioning his enlightenment--but not because he himself didn't take his enlightenment seriously. He was well aware that it was unlikely others, especially you, would do so. However, if you believed (mistakenly) at the time that he was beyond taking it seriously himself, as you claim, that was in no way reflected in your response. I don't think you did believe that. I think the purpose of the paragraph I quoted above was to try to make him look like a jerk by pretending he had made a big fuss about [you] NEVER questioning his enlightenment experience. Here's what he actually wrote: It's going to be fun, Curtis. I appreciate the warning and the hidden admonition. But don't you DARE question the truth of my enlightenment, OK? That's where we part company. Just be as flattering, fawning, and sycophantic as you can. When it comes to my beautiful achievement of Unity Consciousness. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280412 You knew exactly where he was coming from: he fully expected you to try to refute his claim--the phrasing I just quoted is obviously ironic--but he wasn't about to back down from it. And *that* is what your response reflected: I don't question that you had a shift of your internal state that was radical enough for you to associate it with the terms Maharishi used for higher states. My experience of the term is based on my own experiences with his programs, so we may differ on what we mean by the term
