date:20131206

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> I admit that I am fascinated by Atlantis subject matter.  I tend to
gobble up books on the subject.  And yes,  pretty much the tales end up
the same - evil overcoming good and the place gets destroyed.

I, on the other hand, am fascinated mainly by the fascination with it. I
have seen this fascination act itself out in several spiritual trips,
and it's always the same.

The myth, all springing from one tiny, never verified mention in Greek
history, is *perfect* to project one's fantasies onto, because there is
no detail and no facts (even claimed facts) to get in the way. It's a
"blank slate," onto which supposed seers and spiritual teachers have
been projecting *their* fantasies for centuries.

See the world in terms of duality, and a constant struggle between
"good" and "evil," and *of course* that's what Atlantis was all about.
And even though there is no mention of *how* the mythical Atlantis sunk
beneath the waves, or *why*, again *of course* it's because the people
of Atlantis were being "punished" for somehow straying from the path of
"good" and into the world of "evil."

What's most fascinating is to sit in a room full of people who are
already committed to some spiritual teacher or guru or cult leader of
some kind, and see that person spin made-up tales of "Old Atlantis" and
watch the followers nod their heads and say, "Yeah, I remember that."
Yeah, right. They just want to believe that if these events took place,
that *they* -- being so important and all -- were right there, right
then, right in the center of the action.

On the whole, I'm more comfortable with truly fictional fantasy like the
Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones than the same thing pretending to
be "seeing." There is an honesty about real fiction that you just don't
find in fiction being presented as if it were fact.

[FairfieldLife] Bruce learned his lesson!

2013-12-06 Thread cardemaister

http://www.iltasanomat.fi/kotimaa/art-1288628994762.html

[FairfieldLife] RE: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

Well, good morning to you too. The chinese wont have much to shoot at after the 
sea-level changes soon coming from anthropocentric global climate change. If we 
can just put off this attack long enough they wont have Seattle or LA to shoot 
at.
 -Buck

[FairfieldLife] RE: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

In the meanwhile, let's hold the chinese reds off by staying current on our 
payments of consumer debt to them. Prudently let us tighten the belt, spend a 
lot more time meditating and a lot less time and credit on frivolous consumer 
goods.
 -Buck 
 


 Buck> wrote:

 Well, good morning to you too. The chinese wont have much to shoot at after 
the sea-level changes soon coming from anthropocentric global climate change. 
If we can just put off this attack long enough they wont have Seattle or LA to 
shoot at.
 -Buck

[FairfieldLife] RE: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

Fall-out from Red Chinese sneak attack on USA:
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Well, good morning to you too. The chinese wont have much to shoot at after 
the sea-level changes soon coming from anthropocentric global climate change. 
If we can just put off this attack long enough they wont have Seattle or LA to 
shoot at.
 -Buck

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> In the meanwhile, let's hold the chinese reds off by staying current
on our payments of consumer debt to them. Prudently let us tighten the
belt, spend a lot more time meditating and a lot less time and credit on
frivolous consumer goods.

I wouldn't hold your breath. Americans spend over $230 billion a year on
"New Age" products:

http://specialtyretail.com/issue/2003/10/retail-products/retail-product-\
features/new_age_products/
 

And that doesn't even include the $10.4 billion per year market in
seminars and self-improvement programs.

http://www.marketresearch.com/Marketdata-Enterprises-Inc-v416/Self-Impro\
vement-Products-Services-7284574/


"There's a sucker reborn every minute."  - Sri Parmahansa Boddhisatva
Barnum

[FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

Right.  Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures ones 
interest.  
  
 And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially the early 
installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of 
fantasy.  
  
 And also, for me, likely a form of escape.
  
 I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the existence of 
Atlantis.  I just enjoy reading about it.
  
 But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James Cameron 
dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean (and not fining 
much) spent on some research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled 
civilization

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

Wow, Steve, I think Neo just sent 2 posts before I even hit Send button! More 
later.





On Friday, December 6, 2013 6:47 AM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Right.  Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures ones 
interest.  
 
And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially the early 
installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of 
fantasy.  
 
And also, for me, likely a form of escape.
 
I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the existence of 
Atlantis.  I just enjoy reading about it.
 
But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James Cameron dedicate 
the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean (and not fining much) spent 
on some research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled civilization

[FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> Right.  Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures
ones interest.
>
>  And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially
the early installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable -
that element of fantasy.
>
>  And also, for me, likely a form of escape.
>
>  I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the
existence of Atlantis.  I just enjoy reading about it.
>
>  But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James
Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean
(and not fining much) spent on some research to see if there was any
evidence of the fabled civilization

I would tend to agree. I have no opinion one way or another on the
existence of a large civilization now covered by ocean, but it does seem
odd that no one has really found traces of one. Or at least not one that
can be carbon-dated to have existed before the age of our modern
recorded history.

I feel about "tales of Atlantis" sorta the same way I feel about the
tales told by Carlos Castaneda and T. Lobsong Rampa. They're great
tales, often told well. If they had been presented as what they were --
fiction -- no one would ever have had any problems with them. But they
weren't; they were presented as if they were fact. So that kinda
"taints" a good story and removes some of its interest, at least for me.

Since my instantaneous reaction to almost *anyone* saying things that
they have "seen" or "cognized" using their super-secret paranormal
powers is, "Yeah, right," I tend to feel that way about anyone talking
about Atlantis as if what they said was in any way authoritative. :-)

Still, if this latest BBC America offering had been entertaining and
even halfway intelligent, I'd probably continue watching it, just to see
what they came up with. Sadly, it was neither.

[FairfieldLife] Congress holds hearing on ET life

2013-12-06 Thread authfriend

The House science committee carved out two hours of time on Wednesday to 
discuss the search for extraterrestrial life. Because the House has just seven 
days of work left before the end of the year, this hearing idea has generated 
some pretty harsh criticism. But laments about an unproductive Congress finding 
time to look for aliens of all things are sadly misguided. Today's hearing is a 
great idea, and it's doing something remarkable: getting the Republican-led, 
scientifically challenged committee to seriously discuss an important field of 
research — and the funding needed to keep it going. So stop making fun of it.
 

 Read more:
 

 
http://www.thewire.com/technology/2013/12/alien-hearing-best-thing-congress-has-done-months/355784/
 
http://www.thewire.com/technology/2013/12/alien-hearing-best-thing-congress-has-done-months/355784/

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Wear

2013-12-06 Thread Richard Williams

Today I am wearing a Hanes sweat suit, shirt and pants, grey; with Nike
running shoes, white. If I go out to the Roadhouse, I may wear some brown
corduroy pants, a red and black checkered flannel shirt, and a black
leather jacket and a wooly cap, pulled down over my ears.


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Share Long  wrote:

>
>
> People in Annapolis dress nautically, even in the winter, dockers,
> windbreakers, etc. It's a watery place featuring the Chesapeake Bay, the
> Severn and South Rivers, Weems Creek. It's a haven for boating people, home
> of US Naval Academy. I'm not a boating person. If I'm near the water, I
> want to be in it not on it!  But on this blustery, rainy day I found myself
> reveling in the elements, sailing on land, leaving my umbrella in the car.
> The power of the group consciousness of the town.
>
>
>
>
>   On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:53 PM, Richard J. Williams <
> pundits...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   Today at the mall, I saw a teenager gal wearing a pair of Converse
> All-Star "lace-up" knee-high "boots", lime green tennis shoes. Do those
> things have a zipper in back? Otherwise, you'd have to add at least fifteen
> minutes onto your dressing time just to get your feet ready to go out. Go
> figure.
>
>
> On 11/26/2013 11:56 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> Denims are durable - you can wash them hundreds of times and they just get
> more and more comfy. But, you're right about wearing them in the heat and
> the cold. There's nothing like soft cords for comfort and warmth! I used to
> have a nice brown cord sports coat with leather on the elbows, but I wore
> it out and so I left it in a Goodwill donation box back in 1995.
>
> Another thing that is real popular around here are Wrangler denim shirts
> with snaps instead of buttons, available at Shepler's Western Store.
>
> Maybe I should get a new hat to wear - one of the most popular places to
> get hats of all kinds is at 'Paris Hatters' in downtown San Antonio -
> Stetson, Panama, and Resitol, (family owned and operated since 1917).
>
> http://www.yelp.com/biz/paris-hatters-san-antonio
>
> I'm thinking about getting a hat like Jack Hannah wears at the Columbus
> Zoo and on TV - an Indy Jones type hat and some khaki cargo pants and
> shirts (with the shoulder flaps for carrying a camera) at Banana Republic.
>
>
>  On 11/26/2013 11:21 AM, Share Long wrote:
>
>
> My Mom bought me a real stretchy pair of jeans to wear during my sojourn
> in the big bad city of Annapolis (-:
> I tend to cords in Fairfield. IMH experience jeans are NOT at all warm in
> winter. And in the summer they're too hot! How the heck are they so
> popular?! Asking the important questions LOL.
>
>
>
>   On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:44 AM, Richard J. Williams
>   wrote:
>
>   One of the most talked about subjects in conversation is fashion, or
> lack of it. It's taken some adjustment for me to "dress down" every day,
> not that I used to really "dress up", much anyway. But, compared to some
> others, I'm usually "over-dressed", even at Starbucks.
>
> One of the geeks I worked with used to have a pocket protector in his
> shirt pocket filled with assorted cheap ball-point pens he bought at the
> Dollar Store or Walmart. But, I like to have just one pen in my pocket -
> maybe a Cross felt-tip or a fake Mont Blanc fountain pen.
>
> One time the Director of my department threw a Christmas party at her
> mansion up in the hills. Naturally she was dressed up in a stunning outfit,
> and most of the others looked real fine too. But one geek guy showed up
> dressed in cut-offs and a tank-top with rubber thongs on his feet. Go
> figure.
>
> These days, I'm fond of wearing Levi's and T-shirts or a sweat shirt and
> Nike running shoes. Some of the denims I bought were kinda baggy looking,
> so I got me a pair of Levi's "skinny jeans" at Cavender's Boot City. They
> look pretty good, but I can hardly get my hands in the pockets to fetch my
> cell phone! So, I went to the Gap and bought some pocket T-shirts. Sweet!
>
> But, I passed on buying the new faded Wrangler jeans with the ragged holes
> built in. LoL!
>
> This is really funny! Thanks for the tip.
>
> 'The Seven Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About'
> http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/511/transcript
>
> On 11/25/2013 8:06 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
> There was a "This American Life" episode a few weeks back that was pretty
> humorous: "the 7 things you are not supposed to talk about" in
> conversation.  Clothes wasn't on that list, and you've got a good start
> here on some good dinner conversation, for sure.
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
>  In the summer, people around here like to wear short pants, cargo style,
> T-shirts and boots. Up around Austin, people like to wear denim pants and
> black T-shirts when they go out. Some people just don't like to dress up
> anymore, unless maybe they are going to church, a wedding, or a funeral. Go
> figure.
>
>  W

[FairfieldLife] How Thin?

http://www.upworthy.com/5-minutes-of-what-the-media-actually-does-to-women-8 
http://www.upworthy.com/5-minutes-of-what-the-media-actually-does-to-women-8 

 There is really nothing new in this short segment but the visuals are useful 
in adding impact to the message - which we have all heard.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.

Or, does the real Toby know you're posting here under his name?

On 12/5/2013 7:53 PM, Toby Walker wrote:

maybe?

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Richard J. Williams 
mailto:pundits...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Are you the famous Toby Walker?

On 12/5/2013 2:08 PM, Toby Walker wrote:

Oh this is great! lol!

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:49 AM, mailto:awoelfleba...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote:

See Barry. See Barry stalk Judy. Stalk, stalk, stalk. Nothing
new here; move along, folks.

I wrote:

> Buck, reflect a minute. What makes you think I "stalk"?

Barry replied:

> You mean, other than the fact that you're doing it right
now?  :-)

> When you go out of your way to write a post dumping on the
person you've been dumping on consistently for nearly twenty
years, about whom you've written literally thousands of posts
dumping on him, you're stalking.

You mean, the way you've gone out of your way to write posts
dumping on me and have done relentlessly for nearly twenty
years over thousands of posts, and are doing right now?
That's what you mean by "stalking," what you've been spending
most of your time on the Web doing to me and many others ever
since I've known you?

> Get over your self-delusions, honey...you're a stalker.

Well, that's an interesting definition. Trouble is, it
applies to you far more than it does to me. You da
talker-in-chief, sweet cheeks.

I didn't "go out of my way" to write the post, BTW. As you
know, I was responding to Buck.

If I'm a "stalker" according to your new definition, at least
I'm an honest stalker. You are a viciously malicious,
profoundly and consistently dishonest stalker. That was (as
you know) my point to Buck. We'll see a demonstration in the
very next paragraphs:

> You even stalked Curtis recently when one of your former
minions said he liked him, and he hasn't been here since August:

You mean, after Dr. Dumbass responded to one of your long
dump-on-Judy rants that fawned over Curtis? In which he said
he liked Curtis but found him "emotionally duplicitous," and
I agreed? Because that's the post of mine you're quoting,
along with my follow-up:

"Curtis, in stark contrast, went to considerable lengths to
hide his emotional duplicity."

"To be a little more specific, if I may: Curtis pretended to
be "comfortable" with who he was, as Barry puts it. But that
was a carefully constructed facade, and it took very little
in the way of chipping to expose the real Curtis underneath. "

*You went on to stalk Dr. Dumbass for what he had said about
Curtis, and in that post added Robin to your list of stalkees
for the day--Robin, who hadn't been here since early April.*

*
*

*Did you think I wasn't going to provide the context you
dishonestly left out? (And it was obviously deliberate
dishonesty, folks, since he had actually looked up the posts
in question.)*

*
*

*If anybody would like to verify what I just wrote, let me
know and I'll provide the URLs to the posts.*

*
*

*As I said in a post a couple of days ago, Barry doesn't have
the wherewithal to make an honest case. He'd have to refrain
from stalking if he had to be honest, because he'd have
nothing to say.*

> Stalking is just what you DO, Judy. Everyone here knows
this but you.

*Says the Master Stalker of FFL.*

*
*

*Your hypocrisy is unparalleled. It's stupefying. And that's
giving you the benefit of the doubt, because if you really
believe what you're saying, you're insane, completely out of
touch with reality.*

*
*

*Now, how do you explain your claim that I have "stalked you
from forum to forum"?*

*
*

*(See, Barry has switched definitions. Before, he meant
"stalking" in the standard sense of following someone around,
as in his claim above. But now he's using it as a synonym for
"dumping on.")*

*
*

*How about explaining the fact that you were "stalking" me on
FFL before I even arrived here?*

*
*

*I can find the URLs for those posts as well if anyone is
interested.*

*
*

*I swear to God, interacting with Barry is like being in a
hall of funhouse mirrors. Everything he says is warped,
twisted, turned inside-out and upside-down. And t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism

2013-12-06 Thread Mike Dixon

So , what was your point?




On Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:05 AM, Share Long  
wrote:
  
  
I think we got a barbell situation right here on FFL!




On Thursday, December 5, 2013 12:02 PM, Jason  wrote:
  
  

You don't understand. It's called the barbell strategy. You 
create a system which has some positives and drawbacks. You 
again create another reverse mirror image system. The two 
systems balance each other out.

A 'socialistic political system' will balance out a 
'capitalistic economic system'.

Political subsidies for political parties will ease the 
pressure off the parties and prevent them from playing to 
the gallery.  They will stop worrying about funds and start 
focussing on real policies for growth.

It also prevents crony capitalism and promotes real 
pro-market capitalism.


---  
 wrote:
>
> Re "At least, 3% of the total budget should be allocated to political parties 
> as subsidies.":
>  
> 
>  WTF! I don't want one cent of my money to go to a political party. Let them 
>pay for their own propaganda. 
>  Extremist parties wouldn't arise if mainstream parties actually pursued 
>policies that were in the interests of the voters. How hard can it be?
>
>
> > > ---   wrote:
> > > 
> > > Re "Capitalist governments shouldn't be bailing anybody out . . . If
> > > the government takes the risk out of the equation by offering a bailout,
> > > any fool could run a business and risk everyone's investments in
 it with
> > > no lessons learned.:"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Precisely my point. You can argue that we should move towards a more
> > > Ayn Rand set-up and get governments off our backs. It's states offering
> > > bailouts that has encouraged the banks to take idiotic risks.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You could argue the opposite though - financial institutions should
> > > come under more strenuous oversight from financial regulators with the
> > > state limiting bonuses and having a veto on risky investments.
> > > 
> > > 
> >  > It's the current mixed-economy model that isn't fit
 for purpose.
> > > "Bankers socialism" pisses off everyone.
> > > 
> > > 
> > ---  "Jason"  wrote:
> > 
> > The 'capitalistic political system' is the greatest dogma of
> > the 20th century.
> > 
> > The 'socialistic economic system' is the second greatest
> > dogma of the 20th century.
> >
> > A 'capitalistic political system' is tantamount to
> > 'corporate dictatorship'.
> > 
> > Atleast, 3% percent of the total budget money should be
> > allocated to political parties as political subsidies.
> > These political subsidies should be distributed to
 parties
> > on vote proportion basis.  This will force political parties
> > to take a more centrist position and prevent extreme fringe
> > ideologies from arising.
> >

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Go Out and Radiate!

Maybe you are confusing a personality with practice. And, it may be that 
you never practiced TM - you were and still are practicing "Guru Yoga". 
In fact, MMY has nothing to do with your transcending, or not.


Complain; shift blame; be bitter.

On 12/5/2013 10:48 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:



I know that there is still the mind set that no matter what M may have 
done that wasn't ethical, the effect of TM and TMSP is so good and so 
powerful, it is best to ignore or rationalize that the negative or 
dark side of M and the Movement is outweighed by the vast positive 
benefit to the individual and the world.


I know there is that mind set but I don't agree with it. I do not see 
any evidence the group practice of TMSP is having any kind of effect 
of offsetting the "negative" energy around the world. If you take the 
current state of the world as evidence of Marshy effect then it is 
clear the Marshy Effect is either non-existent or a colossal failure.


I have come to feel that TM itself seems to work well for a couple 
years and then for some reason the positive benefits seem to fade 
away. I mean even old timers like Rick don't just strictly do TM - 
they do other stuff. If TM is so fabulous, people would not step away 
from it.


There have been too many suicides, too many mental breakdowns and too 
many high ups in the Movement whose behavior is the opposite of what 
you would expect from folks practicing daily the royal technique for 
enlightenment. That last is of great importance to me. I don't feel 
you can make the grandiose claims for a mental technique and have the 
actual results be totally off base or totally different than what is 
promised and still legitimately believe the technique will do what is 
claimed for it.


When the people who have been doing TMSP the longest behave in the 
arrogant, elitist, unethical manner I have seen in people like 
Hagelin, Morris, Greg Wilson, Susan Humphries, Chris Crowell, Neal 
Patterson, Bill Sands, Reed Martin and so on and so forth I see that 
the TMSP has had the OPPOSITE effect on their behavior that it should 
have had.


So while I admire your desire to change the world, it won't change 
through folks doing TM and TMSP - if it was going to do so, it would 
already have done it.


The state to the world today is a testament to Marshy's monumental 
failure to make significant changes in world consciousness through his 
programs. Of course, I believe his real program was to make himself 
into a demigod in people's minds, make tons of money for himself and 
his family and get laid a whole bunch while he was still young enough 
to enjoy it, so he actually did have the effect he wanted to have, it 
just wasn't the effect he promoted in public.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What I Did Today

Maybe number one and number two son should consider attending a local 
community college for the first two years. That way, you save tons of 
money and you could tell based on their attendance and grades whether or 
not they are ready to attend college in the first place.


It's sometimes isn't much fun living in a dorm with strangers, eating 
cafeteria food, doing your own laundry, working as a fast food server or 
cook and having no car or any money for even a date! LoL!


It could be that one or both might do better learning a vocation or 
trade that pays money when they graduate. One gal I know went to a 
two-year LVN vocational nursing school and landed a job before one year 
was over at $12.00 an hour.


Then she saved up some money and went to a two-year nursing school to be 
an RN. Before she graduated she got a job paying $24 an hour, and was 
offered a $10.000 incentive to work at the M.D. Anderson medical center 
in Houston. Go figure.


One guy I know got a degree in Pshychology from Trinity U., not 
realizing that with a mere B.S. in psycholgy, he would only qualify for 
a job as an aide at the State School. Another guy I know got a B.A. in 
German literature, and he's still working at an Exxon Tiger Mart in Austin.


On 12/5/2013 10:51 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:


Yes, number one son in the midst of his junior year, trying to get his 
bearings to some extent.  But this year he has had to take on a job to 
help meet his living expenses.  I think, that was part of the problem 
last year - too much time on his hands.


Wife and number two son are in Milwaukee right now visiting some 
colleges.  He was not accepted into Madison, but there are other 
colleges in the area he is considering.  Not that he would have gone 
to Madison.  There were many other considerations, not the least of 
which was financial and the large size of the university.


But about those lobster tails.  I had been wanting lobster tails for 
about the last five years, (at least), but never could bring myself to 
shell out the cheddar for them.  But on Saturday, I had it in my mind 
that was what I was going to get.  As I was going through the menu, 
and seeing the ultra high prices on things, I said to myself, (before 
I got to the lobster tails), that as long as they were in the $40.00 
range, I would get them.  Well, turns out they were $50.00 and some 
odd cents, and I got them anyway, and thoroughly enjoyed them.


But you know what's bad?  Now I want them again!  So much for 
impressions.


Cold and snowy here!

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pretty Stunning

If you do that, I'd probably say "wup?" But, that's the number to my 
old Virgin Mobile phone - the one with the extended texting keyboard - 
the one that doesn't ring anymore and can't be locked, resulting in 
numerous butt calls. So, I'll probably just get a $10 top-up card for it 
and keep it at my bedside table so I don't miss any calls from all my 
followers. LoL!


About a month ago I got a Nokia Windows 8 phone with T-Mobile prepaid at 
Walmart for $99, and it's working great so far. It has 4.7 inch screen 
with gorilla glass, a mini-USB port and a micro-SD card slot. Sweet! 
Thanks for the post.


On 12/5/2013 10:59 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:


Share, you've brought out a different side of Richard, if you don't 
mind me saying. A much more enjoyable to read side.


Hell, I was tempted to call  him on his cell phone the other day just 
to say, "hey"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism

Mike, my point was and is: it's all pretty funny so I hope you can just enjoy 
the humor of it all (-:






On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:52 AM, Mike Dixon  wrote:
 
  
So , what was your point?



On Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:05 AM, Share Long  
wrote:
 
  
I think we got a barbell situation right here on FFL!




On Thursday, December 5, 2013 12:02 PM, Jason  wrote:
 
  

You don't understand. It's called the barbell strategy. You 
create a system which has some positives and drawbacks. You 
again create another reverse mirror image system. The two 
systems balance each other out.

A 'socialistic political system' will balance out a 
'capitalistic economic system'.

Political subsidies for political parties will ease the 
pressure off the parties and prevent them from playing to 
the gallery.  They will stop worrying about funds and start 
focussing on real policies for growth.

It also prevents crony capitalism and promotes real 
pro-market capitalism.


---  
 wrote:
>
> Re "At least, 3% of the total budget should be allocated to political parties 
> as subsidies.":
>  
> 
>  WTF! I don't want one cent of my money to go to a political party. Let them 
>pay for their own propaganda. 
>  Extremist parties wouldn't arise if mainstream parties actually pursued 
>policies that were in the interests of the voters. How hard can it be?
>
>
> > > ---   wrote:
> > > 
> > > Re "Capitalist governments shouldn't be bailing anybody out . . . If
> > > the government takes the risk out of the equation by offering a bailout,
> > > any fool could run a business and risk everyone's investments in
 it with
> > > no lessons learned.:"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Precisely my point. You can argue that we should move towards a more
> > > Ayn Rand set-up and get governments off our backs. It's states offering
> > > bailouts that has encouraged the banks to take idiotic risks.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You could argue the opposite though - financial institutions should
> > > come under more strenuous oversight from financial regulators with the
> > > state limiting bonuses and having a veto on risky investments.
> > > 
> > > 
> >  > It's the current mixed-economy model that isn't fit
 for purpose.
> > > "Bankers socialism" pisses off everyone.
> > > 
> > > 
> > ---  "Jason"  wrote:
> > 
> > The 'capitalistic political system' is the greatest dogma of
> > the 20th century.
> > 
> > The 'socialistic economic system' is the second greatest
> > dogma of the 20th century.
> >
> > A 'capitalistic political system' is tantamount to
> > 'corporate dictatorship'.
> > 
> > Atleast, 3% percent of the total budget money should be
> > allocated to political parties as political subsidies.
> > These political subsidies should be distributed to
 parties
> > on vote proportion basis.  This will force political parties
> > to take a more centrist position and prevent extreme fringe
> > ideologies from arising.
> >

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Pretty Stunning

Steve, I just saw Richard's fun side and commented on it. Like when he says 
that someone got to the office early this morning. Or I say something dumb and 
he says keep up the good work. I like that gentle chiding and humor combo. 
Maybe it has to do with being a grandfather. I can tell that for my sister and 
brother in law, it's a lot easier to be a grandparent than a parent!

On Friday, December 6, 2013 9:16 AM, Richard J. Williams  
wrote:

If you do that, I'd probably say "wup?" But, that's the number to my old 
Virgin Mobile phone - the one with the extended texting keyboard - the one that 
doesn't ring anymore and can't be locked, resulting in numerous butt calls. So, 
I'll probably just get a $10 top-up card for it and keep it at my bedside table 
so I don't miss any calls from all my followers. LoL!

About a month ago I got a Nokia Windows 8 phone with T-Mobile
  prepaid at Walmart for $99, and it's working great so far. It has
  4.7 inch screen with gorilla glass, a mini-USB port and a micro-SD
  card slot. Sweet! Thanks for the post.

On 12/5/2013 10:59 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:

>Share, you've brought out a different side of Richard, if you don't mind me 
>saying.  A much more enjoyable to read side.
> 
>Hell, I was tempted to call  him on his cell phone the other day just to say, 
>"hey"

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Wear

Richard, we're twins as I'm wearing brown cords too! But with a pink hoody 
because it's fleece and my warmest. You probably shouldn't wear pink to the 
Roadhouse imho! I'm also wearing 2 pairs of socks, wool on the outside. My toes 
are still cold. Poor circulation!

When I went to the Dome I wore my long, blue, hooded down coat which makes me 
look like a blue elongated marshmallow. But who cares?! It was 12 degrees when 
I left the Dome and 11 when I got home! Vanity flies out the window!





On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:48 AM, Richard Williams  
wrote:
 
  
Today I am wearing a Hanes sweat suit, shirt and pants, grey; with Nike running 
shoes, white. If I go out to the Roadhouse, I may wear some brown corduroy 
pants, a red and black checkered flannel shirt, and a black leather jacket and 
a wooly cap, pulled down over my ears.



On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Share Long  wrote:

 
>  
>People in Annapolis dress nautically, even in the winter, dockers, 
>windbreakers, etc. It's a watery place featuring the Chesapeake Bay, the 
>Severn and South Rivers, Weems Creek. It's a haven for boating people, home of 
>US Naval Academy. I'm not a boating person. If I'm near the water, I want to 
>be in it not on it!  But on this blustery, rainy day I found myself reveling 
>in the elements, sailing on land, leaving my umbrella in the car. The power of 
>the group consciousness of the town.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:53 PM, Richard J. Williams 
> wrote:
> 
>  
>Today at the mall, I saw a teenager gal wearing a pair of Converse All-Star 
>"lace-up" knee-high "boots", lime green tennis shoes. Do those things have a 
>zipper in back? Otherwise, you'd have to add at least fifteen minutes onto 
>your dressing time just to get your feet ready to go out. Go figure.
>
>
>On 11/26/2013 11:56 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
>Denims are durable - you can wash them hundreds of times and they just get 
>more and more comfy. But, you're right about wearing them in the heat and the 
>cold. There's nothing like soft cords for comfort and warmth! I used to have a 
>nice brown cord sports coat with leather on the elbows, but I wore it out and 
>so I left it in a Goodwill donation box back in 1995. 
>>
>>Another thing that is real popular around here are Wrangler
denim shirts with snaps instead of buttons, available at
Shepler's Western Store. 
>>
>>Maybe I should get a new hat to wear - one of the most popular
places to get hats of all kinds is at 'Paris Hatters' in
downtown San Antonio - Stetson, Panama, and Resitol, (family
owned and operated since 1917).
>>
>>http://www.yelp.com/biz/paris-hatters-san-antonio
>>
>>I'm thinking about getting a hat like Jack Hannah wears at the
Columbus Zoo and on TV - an Indy Jones type hat and some khaki
cargo pants and shirts (with the shoulder flaps for carrying a
camera) at Banana Republic.
>>
>>
>> On 11/26/2013 11:21 AM, Share Long wrote:
>>
>>  
>>>My Mom bought me a real stretchy pair of jeans to wear during my sojourn in 
>>>the big bad city of Annapolis (-: 
>>>I tend to cords in Fairfield. IMH experience jeans are
NOT at all warm in winter. And in the summer they're too
hot! How the heck are they so popular?! Asking the
important questions LOL.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:44 AM, Richard J. Williams 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>>One of the most talked about subjects in conversation is fashion, or lack of 
>>>it. It's taken some adjustment for me to "dress down" every day, not that I 
>>>used to really "dress up", much anyway. But, compared to some others, I'm 
>>>usually "over-dressed", even at Starbucks. 
>>>
>>>One of the geeks I worked with used
to have a pocket protector in his
shirt pocket filled with assorted
cheap ball-point pens he bought at
the Dollar Store or Walmart. But, I
like to have just one pen in my
pocket - maybe a Cross felt-tip or a
fake Mont Blanc fountain pen.
>>>
>>>One time the Director of my
department threw a Christmas party
at her mansion up in the hills.
Naturally she was dressed up in a
stunning outfit, and most of the
others looked real fine too. But one
geek guy showed up dressed in
cut-offs and a tank-top with rubber
thongs on his feet. Go figure. 
>>>
>>>These days, I'm fond of wearing
Levi's and T-shirts or a sweat shirt

[FairfieldLife] MMY's Vedic Vibration

MMY taught a meditation (dhyana) technique (yoga) using sound vibrations 
(mantras) as a means for going beyond (transcending) the normal states 
of consciousness to a transcendental state that is beyond the senses. A 
mantra is a sound vibration whose effects are known, assigned to the 
practitioner to be used in their meditation. Mantras are non-ideational, 
non semantic sounds that provide the ideal opportunity to transcend to 
altered states of consciousness.

The idea being that every thing, substance or entity in that exists has 
a vibration of some kind; from this vibration come consciousness, mind, 
ideas, name and form (nama-rupa). Thus everything is sound vibration - 
no matter how gross or fine.The Indian philosophy that supports this 
practice is Yoga. In this philosophy of sound the supreme (para) subtle 
vibration is the first cause, which set in motion the myriad other 
sounds and hence other sounds - the whole phenomenological universe is 
sound vibration starting with a single primordial vibration which set 
the cosmos in motion.

So, the whole creation is made up of sound currents; from the original 
subtle sound vibration down to objects and hence to human speech. The 
original vibration did not contain any grossness but when entering the 
plane of relativity takes on a coarseness, experienced as the human word 
arranged in speech. MMY called this "the science of subtle sounds", 
which produced "Vac", the Goddess of Speech and "Chit" universal 
consciousness, as "Saraswati", the Goddess of Knowldege, which is one 
and includes the whole: Shiva - creation, dissolution, and maintenance.

The spiritual exercises of yoga meditation includes silent repetition, 
"simran" on a seed (bija) by means of repetition (bhajan) and meditation 
given in intiation by a guru. Bija mantras are not words but subtle 
vibrations, the most subtle of which are the imperishable letters of the 
Sanskrit alphabet, which were cognized by the ancient rishis and are 
revealed to us as devine sounds and words.

According to Swami Sivananda Radha, in order to attain 
single-pointedness of mind, a mantra can be used in the following ways: 
by chanting (japa) speaking (vaikhari japa), whispering or humming 
(upamsu japa) or by writing (likhita japa), or by silent mental 
repetition (dhyana).

Universal Consciousness and subtle vibration theory is called "spanda" 
in the Trika philosophy of Kashmere. Trika refers to the three states: 
waking, sleeping, and dreaming; and a fourth state (turyia) which is 
beyond the "three cities" - Transcendental Wisdom (srividya). Turiya, 
pure consciousness, is the fundamental, basic component of the universe.

The spanda system is described as the "vibration/movement" of 
consciousness, a kind of throb, which is the essence of some sort of 
movement; a vibration that is charterized as an ecstatic self-recurrent 
universal consciousness.

As a yoga system, Trika draws teachings from the scriptures, such as the 
monist Bhairava Tantra by Abhinava Gupta and the Sound Arya Lahari by 
the Adi Shankara. The Absolute universal consciousness is the Purusha, 
the Transcendtal Person, which does not change - it is the world itself 
that changes; the 'world' being composed of the interplay of the three 
gunas born of nature. Purusha, the absolute, which is unchanging is, 
according to the Trika and Sri Vidya, the source of a subtle science of 
sound vibrations (shabd).

Shabd never disappears and the sound current is always present as subtle 
asideas or thought. For our practice a TMer does not concentrate on a 
particular sound, but instead just becomes aware of the seed sound, not 
by concentration but by just sitting quietly with eyes closed, with 
purpose in mind, and a spontaneous awareness occurs when the bija is 
cognized as a thought.

Thus a TMer's meditation is not stressful, but an awareness followed by 
an arrangement in intelligent and coherent impulse to activity. If a 
tree falls and there is nobody around to hear it, does it make a sound? 
A stone thrown into a pond produces ripples all around. So, every 
thought and action produces a reaction; a cause produces an effect 
somewhere in the cosmos.

Yoga, as explained by Patanjali, is concerned with mental activity, and 
as every sadhak knows means that yoga is mental activity cessation 
"yogash chittavritti nirodha",or as Charles Johnston translates: 
"Spiritual conciousness is gained through the use of the versatile 
psychic nature." Varenne writes that the idea being conveyed is that the 
mind consists of an uninterrupted succession of thoughts all linked to 
one another like the circle of fire traced in the air by Sri Nata-raja.

The mind (manas) can never be at rest belonging as it does to the world 
of existence, and is thus a permanent dynamism, multiplying and 
diversifying its activity to infinity. According to Varenne, "It goes 
without saying that this mental agitation is in the highest degree 
distracting; the din it sets

[FairfieldLife] RE: What I Did Today

2013-12-06 Thread sharelong60

Steve, good luck to J with his search for the right university. I've been 
enjoying as my great nieces go about this process. Two are really into soccer 
and that's how they choose their colleges!

Hope you all are holding at snow with no ice.

FWIW, if I paid $50 for a meal, it had better pop me at least into GC! (-:

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What I Did Today

2013-12-06 Thread sharelong60

Steve, D told me it's the hum of the universe. I guess that could change 
perception (-:

[FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread sharelong60

Steve, it's great to have you back at the Funny Farm Lounge! Speaking of 
fantasy, my sister and brother in law have convinced me to see Hunger Games 
which I thought was and is for teens. They're pretty picky so it must be 
worthwhile. 

As for Atlantis, it makes sense to me just in context of how the continents 
were connected and then drifted apart, that some land masses were completely 
lost.

Has hockey started up yet?

Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

Richard, my electric bill was $11 last month. In summer it can be as high as 
$90, depending on how much I run the window air conditioners. 

Are you all in a drought area? I've heard that much of the west gets its water 
from the Rocky mountains and that's why water is so expensive. Water wars 
around the corner!

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:28 PM, Richard Williams  
wrote:

In September our water bill was $90; so we cut back; then in October the bill 
was $40.

We tried to use less water by:

1. Only doing full loads of wash using cold water once a week. 
2. Filling the sink with water for dish washing, instead of leaving the water 
running.
3. Taking quick showers and low tub fills for bathing.
4. Stopped watering the front lawn and half of the back yard.

Then, the November water bill came in at $110. This is just outrageous!!!

Who are you going to call? So, I called the San Antonio Water System (SAWS) to 
complain, to no avail. The water company is a monopoly! One guy's bill was over 
$500 for one month, and he was out of town for ten days. Go figure. They found 
a leak at his place - in the concrete foundation pipe!

So, I've started to monitor the water meter. Do they actually read those 
meters, or is it just a guestimate? 

The rent is too damned high!

On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Richard Williams  wrote:

The rent is too damn high!
>
>
>
>Now we're going to have to pay higher taxes in order to get heath insurance. 
>You can't keep your plan or your doctor and you can't sign up at the exchange. 
>And now I'm finding out  there's a marriage penalty.It's just outrageous!
>
>
>The rent is too damn high!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:26 PM,  wrote:
>
> 
>>  
>>Not only has it already been passed long since, it's survived a Supreme Court 
>>challenge. The Republicans--a minority of the most conservative--aren't 
>>trying to keep it from passing, they're trying to get it repealed, defunded. 
>>It's just insane. That's why the government is shut down and why the debt 
>>limit increase is in jeopardy, threatening default. This small group of House 
>>members is holding the country hostage.
>>
>>
>>Once Obamacare is fully in effect, unless things go badly wrong somehow, a 
>>lot of people will change their tune. Folks are bellyaching, generally 
>>speaking, because they're either misinformed (by the Republicans) or 
>>uninformed.
>>
>>
>>Somebody took a poll the other day asking people if they approved of 
>>Obamacare; then asking them if they approved of the Affordable Care Act. A 
>>sizeable percentage approved of the latter but not the former. In fact, 
>>Obamacare IS the Affordable Care Act. Just different ways of referring to the 
>>same exact thing.
>>
>>
>>The new government Web site where people can find out about and apply for 
>>Obamacare has been mobbed the past few days. That's the good news. The bad 
>>news is that it wasn't prepared for such a huge onslaught and has been 
>>malfunctioning rather seriously. You just want to tear your hair out.
>>
>>
>>Ann wrote: 
>>
>>I gotta tell you I do not, for the life of me, understand why Americans are 
>>belly aching about a new health care set up in the US. Nothing could be any 
>>more expensive and out of reach for the average American than it is now. I 
>>think if the damn thing ever passes all this fear-mongering and whining will 
>>prove unjustified. Christ, I hear some people are even afraid the US will 
>>become a (gasp) socialistic society as a result. I've got news for you guys, 
>>you already are. 
>>
>>
>

[FairfieldLife] Early Holiday Spirit -- new Walk off the Earth song

Does anyone remember a group called Walk off the Earth? I think I posted
their video cover version of "Someone I Used To Know" here a while back.
Since then it has gained 155,337,705 views on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9NF2edxy-M


Well, they've got a Christmas video, adding a couple of new members to
do their version of "Little Drummer Boy." Enjoy, and Merry Woofness...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5v07eIFfNY

Re: [FairfieldLife] How Thin?

Thanks for posting this, Ann. Powerful stuff! I really like this woman and 
kudos to Kate Winslet too. I bet all this obsession with thinness is 
contributing also to the obesity epidemic! 





On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:49 AM, "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
http://www.upworthy.com/5-minutes-of-what-the-media-actually-does-to-women-8

There is really nothing new in this short segment but the visuals are useful in 
adding impact to the message - which we have all heard.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Go Out and Radiate!



 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Maybe you are confusing a personality with practice. And, it may be that you 
never practiced TM - you were and still are practicing "Guru Yoga". In fact, 
MMY has nothing to do with your transcending, or not. 
 
 Complain; shift blame; be bitter.
 
 On 12/5/2013 10:48 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 
   
 I know that there is still the mind set that no matter what M may have done 
that wasn't ethical, the effect of TM and TMSP is so good and so powerful, it 
is best to ignore or rationalize that the negative or dark side of M and the 
Movement is outweighed by the vast positive benefit to the individual and the 
world.
 
 I know there is that mind set but I don't agree with it. I do not see any 
evidence the group practice of TMSP is having any kind of effect of offsetting 
the "negative" energy around the world. If you take the current state of the 
world as evidence of Marshy effect then it is clear the Marshy Effect is either 
non-existent or a colossal failure. 
 
 I have come to feel that TM itself seems to work well for a couple years and 
then for some reason the positive benefits seem to fade away. I mean even old 
timers like Rick don't just strictly do TM - they do other stuff. If TM is so 
fabulous, people would not step away from it.
 
 There have been too many suicides, too many mental breakdowns and too many 
high ups in the Movement whose behavior is the opposite of what you would 
expect from folks practicing daily the royal technique for enlightenment. That 
last is of great importance to me. I don't feel you can make the grandiose 
claims for a mental technique and have the actual results be totally off base 
or totally different than what is promised and still legitimately believe the 
technique will do what is claimed for it.
 
 When the people who have been doing TMSP the longest behave in the arrogant, 
elitist, unethical manner I have seen in people like Hagelin, Morris, Greg 
Wilson, Susan Humphries, Chris Crowell, Neal Patterson, Bill Sands, Reed Martin 
and so on and so forth I see that the TMSP has had the OPPOSITE effect on their 
behavior that it should have had. 
 
 So while I admire your desire to change the world, it won't change through 
folks doing TM and TMSP - if it was going to do so, it would already have done 
it. 
 
 The state to the world today is a testament to Marshy's monumental failure to 
make significant changes in world consciousness through his programs. Of 
course, I believe his real program was to make himself into a demigod in 
people's minds, make tons of money for himself and his family and get laid a 
whole bunch while he was still young enough to enjoy it, so he actually did 
have the effect he wanted to have, it just wasn't the effect he promoted in 
public.
 
 
 
 
 I think one can only be so disappointed in a result or outcome of something if 
one has put one's full belief in it. I just never totally "fell" for or 
believed all of the things that the Movement and MMY promised. The ME, the 
flying all of that I took with a shaker of salt because I know that life rarely 
delivers, in full, what is promised by human beings. I am not an idealist and I 
never have been - so far. Idealists are those who are in danger of falling the 
hardest when circumstances don't pan out as promised. There is nothing wrong 
with being an idealist but there are probably more bitter and cynical idealists 
out there than there are bitter, cynical skeptics.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

2013-12-06 Thread Michael Jackson

 frivolous consumer goods= Amrit kalash
 frivolous consumer goods = pictures of vedic observatory
 frivolous consumer goods = plastic model made in China of a vedic observatory
 frivolous consumer goods = yagyas that don't do shit
 frivolous consumer goods = expensive sthapatya veda makeover of your home and 
office
 frivolous consumer goods = TM adjuncts of every shape and description

On Fri, 12/6/13, TurquoiseB  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of 
widespread attack on U.S.
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 12:22 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
 >
 > In the meanwhile, let's hold the chinese reds off
 by staying current on our payments of consumer debt to them.
 Prudently let us tighten the belt, spend a lot more time
 meditating and a lot less time and credit on frivolous
 consumer goods.
 
 
 I wouldn't hold your breath. Americans spend over $230
 billion a year on "New Age" products:
 
 
http://specialtyretail.com/issue/2003/10/retail-products/retail-product-features/new_age_products/
  
 And that doesn't even include the $10.4 billion per year
 market in seminars and self-improvement programs.
 
 
http://www.marketresearch.com/Marketdata-Enterprises-Inc-v416/Self-Improvement-Products-Services-7284574/
 
 
 "There's a sucker reborn every minute." 
 - Sri Parmahansa Boddhisatva Barnum

[FairfieldLife] RE: How Thin?



 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Thanks for posting this, Ann. Powerful stuff! I really like this woman and 
kudos to Kate Winslet too. I bet all this obsession with thinness is 
contributing also to the obesity epidemic! 
 

 I would be curious to know what percentage of male model photographs are as 
highly photoshopped. I would say pretty much just as high a percentage. If it 
isn't perfecting the chest hair or lack of it, it would include pumping up 
certain muscle groups or refining others. Perhaps some of the men require a 
heftier addition of that two-day-old beard growth look if the follicles are 
coming in less than robustly.
 

 

 

 

 
 
 On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:49 AM, "awoelflebater@..."  
wrote:
 
   http://www.upworthy.com/5-minutes-of-what-the-media-actually-does-to-women-8 
http://www.upworthy.com/5-minutes-of-what-the-media-actually-does-to-women-8
 

 There is really nothing new in this short segment but the visuals are useful 
in adding impact to the message - which we have all heard.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread Michael Jackson

Well, now see heah, the real deal is that accordin' to all the new agey 
channels and what not, the Atlantean civilization was of such a much more high 
vibration, that it existed beyond the current visible physical vibration, so 
when it vanished, it literally vanished - convenient excuse that LOTS of folk 
swallow for why no physical evidence exists.

On Fri, 12/6/13, TurquoiseB  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 2:08 PM

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
 >
 > Right.  Sometimes there's no explaining why a
 subject matter captures ones interest.  

 >   

 >  And it could be the same reason that I found Star
 Wars, (especially the early installments), Avatar, and Lord
 of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of fantasy.  

 >   

 >  And also, for me, likely a form of escape.

 >   

 >  I can't say that I would be singled out as a
 proponent of the existence of Atlantis.  I just enjoy
 reading about it.

 >   

 >  But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to
 see James Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the
 bottom of the ocean (and not fining much) spent on some
 research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled
 civilization

 I would tend to agree. I have no
 opinion one way or another on the existence of a large
 civilization now covered by ocean, but it does seem odd that
 no one has really found traces of one. Or at least not one
 that can be carbon-dated to have existed before the age of
 our modern recorded history. 

 I feel about "tales of Atlantis" sorta the same
 way I feel about the tales told by Carlos Castaneda and T.
 Lobsong Rampa. They're great tales, often told
 well. If they had been presented as what they were --
 fiction -- no one would ever have had any problems with
 them. But they weren't; they were presented as if they
 were fact. So that kinda "taints" a good story and
 removes some of its interest, at least for me. 

 Since my instantaneous reaction to almost *anyone* saying
 things that they have "seen" or
 "cognized" using their super-secret paranormal
 powers is, "Yeah, right," I tend to feel that way
 about anyone talking about Atlantis as if what they said was
 in any way authoritative. :-)

 Still, if this latest BBC America offering had been
 entertaining and even halfway intelligent, I'd probably
 continue watching it, just to see what they came up with.
 Sadly, it was neither.

[FairfieldLife] RE: How Thin?



 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Thanks for posting this, Ann. Powerful stuff! I really like this woman and 
kudos to Kate Winslet too. I bet all this obsession with thinness is 
contributing also to the obesity epidemic! 
 

 Oops, forgot to do my usual purple highlight of my response:
 I would be curious to know what percentage of male model photographs are as 
highly photoshopped. I would say pretty much just as high a percentage. If it 
isn't perfecting the chest hair or lack of it, it would include pumping up 
certain muscle groups or refining others. Perhaps some of the men require a 
heftier addition of that two-day-old beard growth look if the follicles are 
coming in less than robustly.
 

 

 

 

 
 
 On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:49 AM, "awoelflebater@..."  
wrote:
 
   http://www.upworthy.com/5-minutes-of-what-the-media-actually-does-to-women-8 
http://www.upworthy.com/5-minutes-of-what-the-media-actually-does-to-women-8
 

 There is really nothing new in this short segment but the visuals are useful 
in adding impact to the message - which we have all heard.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread anartaxius

This situation is nicely summed up by a story told by Carl Sagan:
 A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage 
 

 Suppose I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check 
it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over 
the centuries, but no real evidence. What an opportunity! 
 

 "Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and see a ladder, 
empty paint cans, an old tricycle--but no dragon. 
 

 "Where's the dragon?" you ask. 
 

 "Oh, she's right here," I reply, waving vaguely. "I neglected to mention that 
she's an invisible dragon." 
 

 You propose spreading flour on the floor of the garage to capture the dragon's 
footprints. 
 

 "Good idea," I say, "but this dragon floats in the air." 
 

 Then you'll use an infrared sensor to detect the invisible fire. 
 

 "Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless." 
 

 You'll spray-paint the dragon and make her visible. 
 

 "Good idea, but she's an incorporeal dragon and the paint won't stick." And so 
on. I counter every physical test you propose with a special explanation of why 
it won't work. 
 

 Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal, floating dragon 
who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? If there's no way to disprove my 
contention, no conceivable experiment that would count against it, what does it 
mean to say that my dragon exists? Your inability to invalidate my hypothesis 
is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that cannot be tested, 
assertions immune to disproof are veridically worthless, whatever value they 
may have in inspiring us or in exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking 
you to do comes down to believing, in the absence of evidence, on my say-so.
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 
 Well, now see heah, the real deal is that accordin' to all the new agey 
channels and what not, the Atlantean civilization was of such a much more high 
vibration, that it existed beyond the current visible physical vibration, so 
when it vanished, it literally vanished - convenient excuse that LOTS of folk 
swallow for why no physical evidence exists.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread Bhairitu

I watched the BBC America version last night and it seemed to be 
targeted at teen audiences. It was a about a cut above some of the 
Asylum films that are on Syfy.

On 12/06/2013 06:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> Right. Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures 
ones interest.

>
> And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially 
the early installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - 
that element of fantasy.

>
> And also, for me, likely a form of escape.
>
> I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the 
existence of Atlantis. I just enjoy reading about it.

>
> But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James 
Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean 
(and not fining much) spent on some research to see if there was any 
evidence of the fabled civilization

/I would tend to agree. I have no opinion one way or another on the 
existence of a large civilization now covered by ocean, but it does 
seem odd that no one has really found traces of one. Or at least not 
one that can be carbon-dated to have existed before the age of our 
modern recorded history.

I feel about "tales of Atlantis" sorta the same way I feel about the 
tales told by Carlos Castaneda and T. Lobsong Rampa. They're _great_ 
tales, often told well. If they had been presented as what they were 
-- fiction -- no one would ever have had any problems with them. But 
they weren't; they were presented as if they were fact. So that kinda 
"taints" a good story and removes some of its interest, at least for me.

Since my instantaneous reaction to almost *anyone* saying things that 
they have "seen" or "cognized" using their super-secret paranormal 
powers is, "Yeah, right," I tend to feel that way about anyone talking 
about Atlantis as if what they said was in any way authoritative. :-)

Still, if this latest BBC America offering had been entertaining and 
even halfway intelligent, I'd probably continue watching it, just to 
see what they came up with. Sadly, it was neither.

/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

2013-12-06 Thread Bhairitu

I think that $230 billion a year is globally not the US.  Otherwise 
there would "new age" shops on every corner.  Many in this area have 
closed up since the 1990s. And also I think they are folding not 
necessarily "new age" in to their count such as environmental items.

On 12/06/2013 04:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> In the meanwhile, let's hold the chinese reds off by staying current 
on our payments of consumer debt to them. Prudently let us tighten the 
belt, spend a lot more time meditating and a lot less time and credit 
on frivolous consumer goods.

I wouldn't hold your breath. Americans spend over $230 billion a year 
on "New Age" products:

http://specialtyretail.com/issue/2003/10/retail-products/retail-product-features/new_age_products/

And that doesn't even include the $10.4 billion per year market in 
seminars and self-improvement programs.

http://www.marketresearch.com/Marketdata-Enterprises-Inc-v416/Self-Improvement-Products-Services-7284574/ 

"There's a sucker reborn every minute."  - Sri Parmahansa Boddhisatva 
Barnum

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-12-06 Thread Bhairitu

My electric bill through the summer and up until November is usually 
around $45.  California homes are built for cooling not heating.  My 
November bill is $20 more.  I'm not looking forward to the bill now that 
the furnace has kicked in.  The new roof I had added in 2007 improved 
cooling quite a bit so AC seldom needs to be run but that December was 
very cold so at the first of the year I had more insulation put in.  The 
old shake roof was actually better for heating and not so good for cooling.


On 12/06/2013 07:50 AM, Share Long wrote:
Richard, my electric bill was $11 last month. In summer it can be as 
high as $90, depending on how much I run the window air conditioners.


Are you all in a drought area? I've heard that much of the west gets 
its water from the Rocky mountains and that's why water is so 
expensive. Water wars around the corner!




On Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:28 PM, Richard Williams 
 wrote:
In September our water bill was $90; so we cut back; then in October 
the bill was $40.


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We tried to use less water by:

1. Only doing full loads of wash using cold water once a week.
2. Filling the sink with water for dish washing, instead of leaving 
the water running.

3. Taking quick showers and low tub fills for bathing.
4. Stopped watering the front lawn and half of the back yard.

Then, the November water bill came in at $110. This is just outrageous!!!

Who are you going to call? So, I called the San Antonio Water System 
(SAWS) to complain, to no avail. The water company is a monopoly! One 
guy's bill was over $500 for one month, and he was out of town for ten 
days. Go figure. They found a leak at his place - in the concrete 
foundation pipe!


So, I've started to monitor the water meter. Do they actually read 
those meters, or is it just a guestimate?


The rent is too damned high!

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On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Richard Williams 
mailto:pundits...@gmail.com>> wrote:


The rentistoo damn high!

Now we're going to have to pay higher taxes in order to get heath
insurance. You can't keep your plan or your doctor and you can't
sign up at the exchange. And now I'm finding out  there's a
marriage penalty.It's just outrageous!

The rentistoo damn high!

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On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:26 PM, mailto:authfri...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

Not only has it already been passed long since, it's survived
a Supreme Court challenge. The Republicans--a minority of the
most conservative--aren't trying to keep it from passing,
they're trying to get it repealed, defunded. It's just insane.
That's why the government is shut down and why the debt limit
increase is in jeopardy, threatening default. This small group
of House members is holding the country hostage.

Once Obamacare is fully in effect, unless things go badly
wrong somehow, a lot of people will change their tune. Folks
are bellyaching, generally speaking, because they're either
misinformed (by the Republicans) or uninformed.

Somebody took a poll the other day asking people if they
approved of Obamacare; then asking them if they approved of
the Affordable Care Act. A sizeable percentage approved of the
latter but not the former. In fact, Obamacare IS the
Affordable Care Act. Just different ways of referring to the
same exact thing.

The new government Web site where people can find out about
and apply for Obamacare has been mobbed the past few days.
That's the good news. The bad news is that it wasn't prepared
for such a huge onslaught and has been malfunctioning rather
seriously. You just want to tear your hair out.

Ann wrote:
I gotta tell you I do not, for the life of me, understand why
Americans are belly aching about a new health care set up in
the US. Nothing could be any more expensive and out of reach
for the average American than it is now. I think if the damn
thing ever passes all this fear-mongering and whining will
prove unjustified. Christ, I hear some people are even afraid
the US will become a (gasp) socialistic society as a result.
I've got news for you guys, you already are.

[FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis

Hi Share,
 

 Just checking in for a minute.  But had to offer a second opinion abut Hunger 
Games II.  Luckily we saw it at a matinee, when it was only $5.00.  I found it 
boring, with uninspired acting.  IMO, you won't be missing anything if you skip 
it.
 

 That goes for Gravity as well.  Another boring ass movie IMHO.
 

 Yes, I always like some new insight into Atlantis.  I don't know if it 
existed, but if I had to make a wager on it, I would say it did exist.
 

 Hockey is off to a great start, and we've able to go to many games.
 

 Theresa is such a conscientious student that she sometimes is not able to go.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What I Did Today

Oh, okay.  I'm not sure if it's something so grand as that, but it generally 
seems to be a pleasant sensation.

[FairfieldLife] RE: How Thin?

2013-12-06 Thread j_alexander_stanley

Even fitness models are photoshopped to make them look even more fit than they 
already are. And, when they do photo shoots, the models dehydrate themselves to 
make the skin tighten up in order to better show off the rippling musculature 
beneath.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism

2013-12-06 Thread Mike Dixon

Share I was asking Bharitu what his point was,regarding that court case he was 
sighting.

On Friday, December 6, 2013 7:18 AM, Share Long  wrote:

Mike, my point was and is: it's all pretty funny so I hope you can just enjoy 
the humor of it all (-:

On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:52 AM, Mike Dixon  wrote:

So , what was your point?

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 10:05 AM, Share Long  
wrote:

I think we got a barbell situation right here on FFL!

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 12:02 PM, Jason  wrote:

You don't understand. It's called the barbell strategy. You 
create a system which has some positives and drawbacks. You 
again create another reverse mirror image system. The two 
systems balance each other out.

A 'socialistic political system' will balance out a 
'capitalistic economic system'.

Political subsidies for political parties will ease the 
pressure off the parties and prevent them from playing to 
the gallery.  They will stop worrying about funds and start 
focussing on real policies for growth.

It also prevents crony capitalism and promotes real 
pro-market capitalism.

---  
 wrote:
>
> Re "At least, 3% of the total budget should be allocated to political parties 
> as subsidies.":
>  
> 
>  WTF! I don't want one cent of my money to go to a political party. Let them 
>pay for their own propaganda. 
>  Extremist parties wouldn't arise if mainstream parties actually pursued 
>policies that were in the interests of the voters. How hard can it be?
>
>
> > > ---   wrote:
> > > 
> > > Re "Capitalist governments shouldn't be bailing anybody out . . . If
> > > the government takes the risk out of the equation by offering a bailout,
> > > any fool could run a business and risk everyone's investments in
 it with
> > > no lessons learned.:"
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Precisely my point. You can argue that we should move towards a more
> > > Ayn Rand set-up and get governments off our backs. It's states offering
> > > bailouts that has encouraged the banks to take idiotic risks.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You could argue the opposite though - financial institutions should
> > > come under more strenuous oversight from financial regulators with the
> > > state limiting bonuses and having a veto on risky investments.
> > > 
> > > 
> >  > It's the current mixed-economy model that isn't fit
 for purpose.
> > > "Bankers socialism" pisses off everyone.
> > > 
> > > 
> > ---  "Jason"  wrote:
> > 
> > The 'capitalistic political system' is the greatest dogma of
> > the 20th century.
> > 
> > The 'socialistic economic system' is the second greatest
> > dogma of the 20th century.
> >
> > A 'capitalistic political system' is tantamount to
> > 'corporate dictatorship'.
> > 
> > Atleast, 3% percent of the total budget money should be
> > allocated to political parties as political subsidies.
> > These political subsidies should be distributed to
 parties
> > on vote proportion basis.  This will force political parties
> > to take a more centrist position and prevent extreme fringe
> > ideologies from arising.
> >

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Go Out and Radiate!

2013-12-06 Thread anartaxius

What were the forces in your life that led to your being deceived so badly?
Having found yourself in that situation, and then realising that you needed to
extract yourself from it, it would seem reasonable to ask what factors resulted
in such gullibility in the first place.

Parents, educational systems contribute to this. Politicians certainly do not
want you to be able to think clearly. It is harder to control people who have
mental tools to see through deceptions, but it also takes a bit of learning to
develop them; we do not seem to be born with them intact, we seem to have an
innate capacity for self-deception right from the start.

It does not seem there have been many studies of TM and the TMSP that have been
designed to determine if they are effective in specific ways of social
interaction. The movement does not seem to care for studies that show how many
people stop praciticing its techniques. We all have personal accounts of some
people becoming somewhat 'better' after learning TM but is that because of TM
or the effect of peer pressure and belief that TM is doing this? And there is
the opposite, people that seemed fairly 'normal' becoming total assholes after
learning these things. The same things happen in other movements. So what is at
work here? Do we really know anything to an extent that we can determine a
cause?

If you got burned in the TM movement, one can postulate many antecedent causes
leading up to that. How do you choose which one to blame and why is that choice
the correct one, what sort of criterion or criteria makes that choice probably
right? Do you have a choice? - Do those thought about how bad it all was just
come streaming out on their own, effortlessly, spontaneously?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

I know that there is still the mind set that no matter what M may have done
that wasn't ethical, the effect of TM and TMSP is so good and so powerful, it
is best to ignore or rationalize that the negative or dark side of M and the
Movement is outweighed by the vast positive benefit to the individual and the
world.

I know there is that mind set but I don't agree with it. I do not see any
evidence the group practice of TMSP is having any kind of effect of offsetting
the "negative" energy around the world. If you take the current state of the
world as evidence of Marshy effect then it is clear the Marshy Effect is either
non-existent or a colossal failure.

I have come to feel that TM itself seems to work well for a couple years and
then for some reason the positive benefits seem to fade away. I mean even old
timers like Rick don't just strictly do TM - they do other stuff. If TM is so
fabulous, people would not step away from it.

There have been too many suicides, too many mental breakdowns and too many
high ups in the Movement whose behavior is the opposite of what you would
expect from folks practicing daily the royal technique for enlightenment. That
last is of great importance to me. I don't feel you can make the grandiose
claims for a mental technique and have the actual results be totally off base
or totally different than what is promised and still legitimately believe the
technique will do what is claimed for it.

When the people who have been doing TMSP the longest behave in the arrogant,
elitist, unethical manner I have seen in people like Hagelin, Morris, Greg
Wilson, Susan Humphries, Chris Crowell, Neal Patterson, Bill Sands, Reed Martin
and so on and so forth I see that the TMSP has had the OPPOSITE effect on their
behavior that it should have had.

So while I admire your desire to change the world, it won't change through
folks doing TM and TMSP - if it was going to do so, it would already have done
it.

The state to the world today is a testament to Marshy's monumental failure to
make significant changes in world consciousness through his programs. Of
course, I believe his real program was to make himself into a demigod in
people's minds, make tons of money for himself and his family and get laid a
whole bunch while he was still young enough to enjoy it, so he actually did
have the effect he wanted to have, it just wasn't the effect he promoted in
public.

On Thu, 12/5/13, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Go Out and Radiate!
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 5, 2013, 3:15 PM

MJ,
did you miss that this was a spiritual revival movement in a
muddy
world filled with vasana? I feel you are being too hard on
how he
did it and what all we did. Like, was Christ perfect
in everything? Never stubbed his toe? We could
surely use some help changing
the world to a better place. Give up this negativistic POV
and come
back to meditation wit

[FairfieldLife] RE: What I Did Today

Well as regards the meal.  It sounds like our expectations are similar.  And in 
this case I think they were met.  At least for the moment!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.

Yes,  Bhairitu is entirely right, it clearly is not just some new-agers 
consuming some spiritual trinkets.  It is a much larger problem.  However, we 
do know from the example of the Meissner Effect [ME] that just a few of us can 
change things; even the course of history. 
 Yep, frivolous consumerism is seriously perilous in so many ways.  We 
evidently all just need more Self-discipline around both our incessant 
materialism and then actually taking the time for meditation.  Taking quiet 
time twice a day at the least to practice a transcending meditation.   -Buck  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 I think that $230 billion a year is globally not the US.  Otherwise there 
would "new age" shops on every corner.  Many in this area have closed up since 
the 1990s.  And also I think they are folding not necessarily "new age" in to 
their count such as environmental items.

 On 12/06/2013 04:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
wrote:
 >
 > In the meanwhile, let's hold the chinese reds off by staying current on our 
 > payments of consumer debt to them. Prudently let us tighten the belt, spend 
 > a lot more time meditating and a lot less time and credit on frivolous 
 > consumer goods. 

 I wouldn't hold your breath. Americans spend over $230 billion a year on "New 
Age" products:

http://specialtyretail.com/issue/2003/10/retail-products/retail-product-features/new_age_products/

 And that doesn't even include the $10.4 billion per year market in seminars 
and self-improvement programs.

http://www.marketresearch.com/Marketdata-Enterprises-Inc-v416/Self-Improvement-Products-Services-7284574/

http://www.marketresearch.com/Marketdata-Enterprises-Inc-v416/Self-Improvement-Products-Services-7284574/

 "There's a sucker reborn every minute."  - Sri Parmahansa Boddhisatva Barnum

[FairfieldLife] For all romantics out there

2013-12-06 Thread Richard Williams

There are a few things you guys or gals can do to be romantic to your
significant other this time of year. One thing you can do is tell him or
her: "I'm setting up speed-dialing on my cell phone - and you're number
one."

Or, you could play this song in front of a blazing fireplace curled up on a
bear-skin rug:

[image: Inline image 1]

Suzi Quatro & Chris Norman - Stumblin' In
http://youtu.be/iGaF4tKUl0o

This a very romantic song by Suzi Quatro and Chris Norman. Suzi Quatro was
born in Detroit, MI, USA and grew up there - her father worked for General
Motors. Rita is from Detroit and Suzi was one her contemporaries and an
inspiration to start her own band. I'm re-posting this song because I like
it so much in case you missed it. Back when people could sing and play for
real. You old timers may remember Suzi from Happy Days where she guest
starred as "Leather Tuscadero".

[FairfieldLife] Re: What I Did Today

2013-12-06 Thread Richard Williams

Today, I went to this place to see Manny, Moe, and Jack about an oil change
for one of my cars.

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On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Richard Williams wrote:

> Last night we went to this place for a beer:
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Richard Williams wrote:
>
>> Alright, I'm back on the discussion board; sorry for the delay but I had
>> to go here::
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inside China: Nuclear submarines capable of widespread attack on U.S.