[FairfieldLife] File - FFL Acronyms
BC - Brahman Consciousness BN - Bliss Ninny or Bliss Nazi CC - Cosmic Consciousness GC - God Consciousness MMY - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi OTP - Off the Program - a phrase used in the TM movement meaning to do something (such as see another spiritual teacher) considered in violation of Maharishi's program. POV - Point of View SBS - Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Maharishi's master SCI Science of Creative Intelligence SOC - State of Consciousness SSRS - Sri Sri Ravi Shankar (Pundit-ji) SV - Stpathya Ved (Vedic Architecture) TB - True Believer (in TM doctrines) TNB - True Non-Believer TMO - The Transcendental Meditation organization TTC TM Teacher Training Course UC - Unity Consciousness WYMS - World Youth Meditation Society later changed to World Youth Movement for the Science of Creative Intelligence was founded by Peter Hübner in Germany, as a national TM outlet competing with SIMS, Students International Meditation Society YMMV = Your Mileage may vary To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] God Savitri comes seeing (all) creatures?
hiraNyayena savitaa rathena aa devo yaati bhuvanaani pashyan. http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=1977286 On his golden car god SavitR comes seeing (all) creatures. - Rgveda I 35, 2 hiraNyayena --- (instrumental singular) on golden [car] savitaa ... (nominative singular) Savitri rathena ... (instrumental singular) on car aa ... yaati --- comes devaH ... god (-aH -o before a *voiced* consonant) bhuvanaani ... (nominative/*accusative* plural) them creatures'im pashyan --- seeing
[FairfieldLife] Seekliberations prediction comes true, Shotokan defeated by kickboxing
Well not really, the Shotokan master(Lyoto Machida) took the decision over Mauricio Shogun Rua (a Muay Thai Kickboxer), much to the disgust of all the fans in the stadium, all the writers on blogs, and even the President of UFC, Dana White. After 5 round of fighting, the Shotokan Master was bloodied, bruised and cut and is now even undergoing surgery as a result of the fight. All commentators are claiming Shogun was robbed, but Shogun doesn't care as long as he gets his rematch. Although it's a win in the books for the Shotokan Master, it's a loss in the minds of those who watchedeven Machida fans are not happy with the victory. Hopefully we'll see the rematch soon, it will be interesting. Seekliberation
[FairfieldLife] GyPSii on Chinese iPhone!
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[FairfieldLife] Directory of Active FF Spiritual Practice Groups
Spiritual Practice Groups of Fairfield Directory of Active Fairfield Spiritual Practice Groups Outside of Fairfield, people intently ask, What is going on in Fairfield? The spiritual, utopian side of Fairfield is something they are wondering about. Fairfield has become recognized as a spiritual Mecca of sorts, ranking with Sedona, Arizona, Boulder and Crestone, Colorado, Ashville, North Carolina and the like. Within these past three decades, Fairfield spiritual practice groups have matured, giving this community a rich, new face. The long-time Fairfield meditating community today is its own center for spiritual practice. The breadth of spiritual practice groups in Fairfield is now a unique feature of our town in the 21st Century. ___Alphabetical: A Course in Miracles, Mondays 7:30 pm. Local contact: 472-7148. The Afternoon Satsang, at Revelations Coffee Shop. North room 2:30pm most days. Spiritual experience and understanding. Ammachi Fairfield Satsang Ammachi Fairfield weekly schedule of meditation, chanting, and bhajans. http://amma-fairfield.org/ contact: 472-8563 or 472-9336 Art of Living Foundation -Sri Sri Ravi Shankar Meditation and program schedule in Fairfield. 472-9892 http://us.artofliving.org/index.html Babaji Group: Local contact: 472-9952 Bapuji Group Shri Avadoot, better known as ³Bapuji². Local contact: 472-9260 Chalanda Sai Maa Satang in Fairfield Group meditations based on the teachings of Chalanda Sai Maa Lakshmi Devi. First and third Monday of the month at 7:30 PM. Call for location information: 641-919-5223 or email directly at: fairfieldsai...@humanityinunity.org http://www.humanityinunity.org Circle of Sophia a holy order for women at St. Gabriel and All Angels, the Liberal Catholic Church. Original worship celebration, written from sources in ancient Christianity, enlivens the Feminine Divine for both men and women. Celebrations monthly. 300 E. Burlington. www.stgabe.org Contact 472-1645 Deeksha Darshan and teachings of Bhagavan Kalki Padmavati Amma Fairfield contact for local program: 472-6948 Divine Mother Church in Fairfield `We don¹t talk about God, we commune with God'. Interfaith Service: Sundays 11 AM; 51 North Court, East Entrance Contact 641.209.9900 Eckankar Local meetings, lectures and meditation Bringing speakers from the regional and national movement http://www.eckankar.org Fairfield Vedic Pujas, Yagyas and Ceremonies Scheduled public events always open to interested persons. By Vedic Scholar and Priest, Pandit Dhruv Narain Sharma: 630-240-3368 http://yagya108.org/default.aspx Fellowship of the Holy Spirit in Fairfield `Consciousness, Joy, and Devotion: Christianity that works.' Sundays, 11 AM, 51 North Court. 472-8737. Gangaji Group Local contact: 472-9476. Golden Shield Qi Gong Fairfield practice: 641-919-3913. Golden Shield Qi Gong www.jingui.com 641-472-5998 Hatha Yoga classes. Sue Berkey: 472-6577 Henry Hertzberger Chanting, Pujas Yagyas. Mahaganapati Temple Schedule: Fairfield Shri Karunamayi Satsang Fairfield Group Meditation and Program. 472-8422 http://www.karunamayi.org/tour/2008Fairfield.shtml Liberal Catholic Church in Fairfield St Gabriel and all Angels, 300 E. Burlington. Contact, 472-1625www.stgabe.org Manavata Mandir Vedic Temple 800 W. Burlington in Fairfield. 469-6041. Master Spiritual Healer John Douglas Biannual visits to Fairfield Workshops, meetings, meditation. http://www.spirit-repair.com/ Mother Meera: 641.472.5149 http://www.mothermeera-fairfield.com/default.jsp Quaker Meeting Fairfield Society of Friends (Conservative Un-programmed) silent meeting for worship. 472-8422. St. Germain Meditation. Two active groups meeting for meditation weekly http://www.reiki-seichem.com/germain.html http://saintgermainfoundation.com/ Saniel Bonder, `Waking Down' in Fairfield. Sittings calendar: call 472-2001. http://wakingdowninfairfield.com/ Scalar Group Meditation Programs facilitated by Lilli Botchis. A unique opportunity as a group to research in mind/body consciousness the universal themes of pure energy and manifestation potential of HHFe Scalar wave regeneration system. Programs designed to clear, balance and open the chakra system. Contact, 472-0129. http://earthspectrum.com/ http://www.timeportalpubs.com/index.htm Shivabalayogi Group All are welcome. There is never any charge for Swamiji's blessings. For further information, contact: 641-233-1025. Svaroopa Yoga (641) 472-7499. Tetra Building Meditation Room. Daily morning and afternoon meditation facility for the practice of the TM-Sidhi meditation. A quiet, clean and convenient and unaffiliated place, `to do program'. Contact David Hawthorne for use and membership information: 472-3799. Transcendental Meditation Programs: TMmovement: 472-1174 Transformational Prayer in Fairfield For information on Fairfield activities, call 472-0662. Wednesday Night Satsang - Every Wednesday
[FairfieldLife] Greetings from Anamay Ashram - November 1, 2009
Ning http://www.ning.com/ Create Your Own Social Network http://vedatradition.ning.com/xn/authenticate?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.n\ ing.com%2Fmain%2Fcreateyourown%3Fsource%3Dvedatradition Search http://vedatradition.ning.com/profiles/blogs/greetings-from-anamay-ashr\ am# * Sign Up http://vedatradition.ning.com/main/authorization/signUp?target=http%3A%\ 2F%2Fvedatradition.ning.com%2Fprofiles%2Fblogs%2Fgreetings-from-anamay-a\ shram * Sign In http://vedatradition.ning.com/main/authorization/signIn?target=http%3A%\ 2F%2Fvedatradition.ning.com%2Fprofiles%2Fblogs%2Fgreetings-from-anamay-a\ shram http://vedatradition.ning.com/profiles/blogs/greetings-from-anamay-ashr\ am# Veda Tradition Himalaya http://vedatradition.ning.com/ To Preserve, and Promote the Heritage of Ancient India [Pierre Baierle] http://vedatradition.ning.com/profile/PierreBaierle Greetings from Anamay Ashram November 1, 2009 * Posted by Pierre Baierle http://vedatradition.ning.com/profile/PierreBaierle on November 1, 2009 at 2:10pm * View Pierre Baierle's blog http://vedatradition.ning.com/profiles/blog/list?user=00zq9e9ins05k [http://api.ning.com/files/Ok*ZkuNNvRhMUw2Eg5629cbctvkQn2UOUQZOOixAlIQ_/\ Himalayan_range_dawn_1.jpg] Namaskar, Dear friends of Anamay Ashram, Receive our warmest greetings, and very best wishes from our beautiful himalayan retreat, where life is flourishing in waves of achievements, and fulfilment. [http://api.ning.com/files/ULEpoMjfgo8jCVR6icsgm3lqbVEvNQkdaF9BwiTBXFw_/\ P1020522.jpg] Swami-ji Ashutosh is currently very busy with millions of things happening here: the coming back of the students after the Diwali Holiday (it is, for most of them, the only time they get to go back home for a couple of weeks), the new constructions to supervise, all the details of daily life to organize, and unexpected problems to solve. Yes, quite a few of these errupted here during the last few weeks... No need to dwell on that now, just to say that we need all the vigilance, nature support, and divine blessings we can get in order to proceed on this path! And we are so fortunate to get all of the above here! [http://api.ning.com/files/my4F74fldiEqf-G*dJ3UitF3Lg9uwnzj0INFgukmQlY_/\ P1020540.jpg] Trilochana-ji (formerly known as Massoud) is here too, supporting the whole administration, and expansion, with his great expertise, and wisdom, and good humor. So, all in all, the progress is good, the situation stable, the future bright. It is my great joy to be back here after a few months spent in Switzerland, sorting out my affairs, in order to be more and more free to spend most of my time here at the ahsram. [http://api.ning.com/files/orhfEB6xjB0JsMVY5i3yLxrdUYkjzxT*a1jP3Ae*hYQ_/\ P1020521.jpg] A delightful suprise to receive the visit of our dear friends from Quebec, Gilles Rochette, et Jay-Paul Lapointe (see next picture), we hadn't met in so many years. How good to spend time with old friends, sharing experience, doing long meditation together in the Ashram temple! [http://api.ning.com/files/scTTytKOdDOu08V84JFZin9XG7ihLvNZ2sFLdw5f0cE_/\ P1020525_2.jpg] Ashutosh just tells me he is planning to write a newletter in the next few days, so, more news coming to you soon. In the mean time, receive our very best wishes, and warmest greetings. Jai Guru Dev Pierre [http://api.ning.com/files/yBmADgIv-UQGPtsVYRIoaXyuR9KD0zXcF9Xnwkiy2SE_/\ P1020539.jpg] PS : food is still delicious here, and our four-legged-friends still so friendly! [http://api.ning.com/files/6*fxfNrMZP3Qa2klXiB6zg9mNQlad2akwvKkgycvlWE_/\ P1020533.jpg] [http://api.ning.com/files/MJARKWgJTi9bYCaoZyq-zWca*t0zkZykFAD2sDQPpbA_/\ P1020536.jpg] Tags: Share http://vedatradition.ning.com/main/sharing/share?id=3116016%253ABlogPos\ t%253A2989 * Previous Post http://vedatradition.ning.com/profiles/blogs/news-from-the-ashram-a-let\ ter-1 Add a Comment You need to be a member of Veda Tradition Himalaya to add comments! Join this social network
[FairfieldLife] Re: Manning, Archer, Bhairitu, et al: kill your pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:49 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Manning, Archer, Bhairitu, et al: kill your pets The article below gives the reasons you should no longer own a pet if you believe in catastrophic man-made global warming. Manning, eat your schnauzer and save the planet Dogs and cats don't eat any more than small omnivorous children, so by this logic everyone should kill their children, or any extra ones not needed to perpetuate the species. Killing your own children for the sake of preventing global warming, Rick? Now I think you're going a little too far.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: FFL Indexing For Researching purposes, The Fairfield Meditating Community, the TM.Org and Fairfield life. Fairfield Life, Indexing the Story Here at: Homepage http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ I usually just skip by this indexing post that Doug makes on a regular basis, but this time I skimmed through it, and found this near the end, where Doug explains why he's compiled the index: snip For some time now I have been inviting outsiders to this list. Since about Thanksgiving, I have been going to the major print-media, radio and cable editors inviting their writers to look in on the story here. I have persistently gone through at least all of the major print media once or twice going to their web pages ferreting out their editors and inviting them with a cover letter about the story here. To academia also. Some one a little while ago on the list here cautioned that we should be careful what we are saying here , that the Des Moines Register or the AP might pick it up. Well, actually they are here too in all likelihood. There is more than just us here lurking. Out of curiosity, I did a search and found that Doug had posted what he quotes above in January 2003. Seems that for close to seven years, nobody in the media has found anything on FFL newsworthy enough to write about (if anybody even had the interest to look). But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: FFL Indexing For Researching purposes, The Fairfield Meditating Community, the TM.Org and Fairfield life. Fairfield Life, Indexing the Story Here at: Homepage http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ I usually just skip by this indexing post that Doug makes on a regular basis, but this time I skimmed through it, and found this near the end, where Doug explains why he's compiled the index: snip For some time now I have been inviting outsiders to this list. Since about Thanksgiving, I have been going to the major print-media, radio and cable editors inviting their writers to look in on the story here. I have persistently gone through at least all of the major print media once or twice going to their web pages ferreting out their editors and inviting them with a cover letter about the story here. To academia also. Some one a little while ago on the list here cautioned that we should be careful what we are saying here , that the Des Moines Register or the AP might pick it up. Well, actually they are here too in all likelihood. There is more than just us here lurking. Out of curiosity, I did a search and found that Doug had posted what he quotes above in January 2003. Seems that for close to seven years, nobody in the media has found anything on FFL newsworthy enough to write about (if anybody even had the interest to look). But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right? Yeah, right, a major major expose. Read all about it! Read all about it! Group of sincere hearts abused by tyrant and cronies. What could be a more common headline? Anyone born in 1980 grew up thinking Paul was in a group called Wings -- maybe in the early Seventies you could get an editor to think this story was fit for print, but the movement's 15 minutes sputtered its last right about the time the Beatles broke up. This is the way the world ends This is the way the world ends This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper. -- T.S. Eliot Edg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!'
If FairfieldLife's very own expatriot postal worker was trying to answer for Robert, you failed. The Question was, How dou you know the Afganis in that photo were Taliban? Mujaheddin had several factions, one of which were Taliban. The Northern Alliance helped our special forces drive the Taliban out of Afghanistan. Equating anybody that opposed the Soviet Union as *Taliban* sounds ...xenophbic. From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 2:16:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!' --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote: So, how is it that you know that those are Taliban? They are the radical Muslim Mujahidin. The Taliban is/was a faction of that group. I guess in 1983 they could have been, although the taliban didn't take control of Afghjanistan till some time in the 90's. The Saudis backed the Taliban and the US backed the Northern Alliance, who helped kick the Taliban out of the country. The Southern redneck needs a good history review: Fisking the War on Terror by Juan Cole - August 02, 2005 Once upon a time, a dangerous radical gained control of the US Republican Party. Reagan increased the budget for support of the radical Muslim Mujahidin conducting terrorism against the Afghanistan government to half a billion dollars a year. One fifth of the money, which the CIA mostly turned over to Pakistani military intelligence to distribute, went to Gulbuddin Hikmatyar, a violent extremist who as a youth used to throw acid on the faces of unveiled girls in Afghanistan. Not content with creating a vast terrorist network to harass the Soviets, Reagan then pressured the late King Fahd of Saudi Arabia to match US contributions. He had earlier imposed on Fahd to give money to the Contras in Nicaragua, some of which was used to create rightwing death squads. (Reagan liked to sidestep Congress in creating private terrorist organizations for his foreign policy purposes, which he branded freedom fighters, giving terrorists the idea that it was all right to inflict vast damage on civilians in order to achieve their goals). Fahd was a timid man and resisted Reagan's instructions briefly, but finally gave in to enormous US pressure. Fahd not only put Saudi government money into the Afghan Mujahideen networks, which trained them in bomb making and guerrilla tactics, but he also instructed the Minister of Intelligence, Turki al-Faisal, to try to raise money from private sources. Turki al-Faisal checked around and discovered that a young member of the fabulously wealthy Bin Laden construction dynasty, Usama, was committed to Islamic causes. Turki thus gave Usama the task of raising money from Gulf millionaires for the Afghan struggle. This whole effort was undertaken, remember, on Reagan Administration instructions. Bin Laden not only raised millions for the effort, but helped encourage Arab volunteers to go fight for Reagan against the Soviets and the Afghan communists. The Arab volunteers included people like Ayman al-Zawahiri, a young physician who had been jailed for having been involved in the assassination of Egyptian president Anwar El-Sadat. Bin Laden kept a database of these volunteers. In Arabic the word for base is al-Qaeda. In the US, the Christian Right adopted the Mujahideen as their favorite project. They even sent around a biblical checklist for grading US congressman as to how close they were to the Christian political line. If a congressman didn't support the radical Muslim Muj, he or she was downgraded by the evangelicals and fundamentalists. Reagan wanted to give more and more sophisticated weapons to the Mujahideen (freedom fighters). The Pakistani generals were forming an alliance with the fundamentalist Jamaat-i Islam and begining to support madrasahs or hardline seminaries that would teach Islamic extremism. But even they balked at giving the ragtag Muj really advanced weaponry. Pakistan had a close alliance with China, and took advice from Beijing. In 1985 Reagan sent Senator Orrin Hatch, Undersecretary of Defense Fred Iklé and others to Beijing to ask China to put pressure on Pakistan to allow the US to give the Muslim radicals, such as Hikmatyar, more sophisticated weapons. Hatch succeeded in this mission. By giving the Muj weaponry like the stinger shoulderheld missile, which could destroy advanced Soviet arms like their helicopter gunships, Reagan demonstrated to the radical Muslims that they could defeat a super power. Reagan also decided to build up Saddam Hussein in Iraq as a counterweight to Khomeinist Iran, authorizing US and Western companies to send him precursors for chemical and biological weaponry. At one point Donald Rumsfeld was sent to Iraq to assure Saddam that it was all right if he used chemical weapons against the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!'
So, the CIA's main business is to keep the drugs flowing so they can make money, but not to keep blacks down. Robert a *real* liberal (progressive) would recognize the CIA not only sees to it that blacks are kept down on drugs but are also infected with CIA engineered HIV, jees, you really do need to go to church more often or atleast subscribe to Rev Wrights audio tapes. From: Robert babajii...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 9:10:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!' --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote: So, how is it that you know that those are Taliban? I guess in 1983 they could have been, although the taliban didn't take control of Afghjanistan till some time in the 90's. The Saudis backed the Taliban and the US backed the Northern Alliance, who helped kick the Taliban out of the country. So Robert, do you go to Reverend Wrights church? I mean if the CIA is in control of Afghan Opium it must be to keep our *uppidy* negros down, doncha think? The U.S. left the Northern Alliance, hanging, and their main leader was assassinated. .. I am not sure what you mean by uppity negros, other than it shows your prejudice... Most of the Opium, from Afghanistan, will be mostly traveling to the addicts in Europe...although, I am sure some will make it to the United States... The Republican War Machine, like money to come in steadily, on commodities, that people need, like oil...when you run out of gas, you don't have a choice, but to give more money to the Texas/Saudi Connection.. .right? When you have people addicted to Heroin, they will be sure to get you the money, for the drug, any way they can...the Republicans like that... That is why they are fighting so hard to keep the medical system the same...so, they can get their cut... I know for a fact, that the CIA's main business, is to keep the drugs flowing... They don't want to legalize marijuana, because, it's too easy to grow, and they will lose business... Sorry if this blows your image of what really goes on... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Turning to the fringe right, Republicans are the sure losers
The G.O.P. Stalinists Invade Upstate New York [or, The Face of the Self-Destruction of the G.O.P.] The more rightists who win G.O.P. primaries, the greater the Democrats' prospects next year. But the electoral math is less interesting than the pathology of this movement. Its antecedent can be found in the early 1960s, when radical-right hysteria carried some of the same traits we're seeing now: seething rage, fear of minorities, maniacal contempt for government, and a Freudian tendency to mimic the excesses of political foes. by Frank Rich BARACK OBAMA'S most devilish political move since the 2008 campaign was to appoint a Republican congressman from upstate New York as secretary of the Army. This week's election to fill that vacant seat has set off nothing less than a riotous and bloody national G.O.P. civil war. No matter what the results in that race on Tuesday, the Republicans are the sure losers. This could be a gift that keeps on giving to the Democrats through 2010, and perhaps beyond. The governors' races in New Jersey and Virginia were once billed as the marquee events of Election Day 2009 a referendum on the Obama presidency and a possible Republican comeback. But preposterous as it sounds, the real action migrated to New York's 23rd, a rural Congressional district abutting Canada. That this pastoral setting could become a G.O.P. killing field, attracting an all-star cast of combatants led by Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, William Kristol and Newt Gingrich, is a premise out of a Depression-era screwball comedy. But such farces have become the norm for the conservative movement whether the participants are dressing up in full tea party drag or not. The battle for upstate New York confirms just how swiftly the right has devolved into a wacky, paranoid cult that is as eager to eat its own as it is to destroy Obama. The movement's undisputed leaders, Palin and Beck, neither of whom has what Palin once called the actual responsibilities of public office, would gladly see the Republican Party die on the cross of right-wing ideological purity. Over the short term, at least, their wish could come true. The New York fracas was ignited by the routine decision of 11 local Republican county chairmen to anoint an assemblywoman, Dede Scozzafava, as their party's nominee for the vacant seat. The 23rd is in safe Republican territory that hasn't sent a Democrat to Congress in decades. And Scozzafava is a mainstream conservative by New York standards; one statistical measure found her voting record slightly to the right of her fellow Republicans in the Assembly. But she has occasionally strayed from orthodoxy on social issues (abortion, same-sex marriage) and endorsed the Obama stimulus package. To the right's Jacobins, that's cause to send her to the guillotine. Sure enough, bloggers trashed her as a radical leftist and ditched her for a third-party candidate they deem a true conservative, an accountant and businessman named Doug Hoffman. When Gingrich dared endorse Scozzafava anyway as did other party potentates like John Boehner and Michael Steele he too was slimed. Mocking Newt's presumed 2012 presidential ambitions, Michelle Malkin imagined him appointing Al Sharpton as secretary of education and Al Gore as global warming czar. She's quite the wit. The wrecking crew of Kristol, Fred Thompson, Dick Armey, Michele Bachmann, The Wall Street Journal editorial page and the government-bashing Club for Growth all joined the Hoffman putsch. Then came the big enchilada: a Hoffman endorsement from Palin on her Facebook page. Such is Palin's clout that Steve Forbes, Rick Santorum and Tim Pawlenty, the Minnesota governor (and presidential aspirant), promptly fell over one another in their Pavlovian rush to second her motion. They were joined by far-flung Republican congressmen from Kansas, Georgia, Oklahoma and California, not to mention a gaggle of state legislators from Colorado. On Fox News, Beck took up the charge, insinuating that Hoffman's Republican opponent might be a fan of Karl Marx. Some $3 million has now been dumped into this race by outside groups. Who exactly is the third-party maverick arousing such ardor? Hoffman doesn't even live in the district. When he appeared before the editorial board of The Watertown Daily Times 10 days ago, he showed no grasp of local issues, as the subsequent editorial put it. Hoffman complained that he should have received the questions in advance blissfully unaware that they had been asked by the paper in an editorial on the morning of his visit. Last week it turned out that Hoffman's prime attribute to the radical right as a take-no-prisoners fiscal conservative was bogus. In fact he's on the finance committee of a hospital that happily helped itself to a $479,000 federal earmark. Then again, without the
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: If FairfieldLife's very own expatriot postal worker was trying to answer for Robert, you failed. The Question was, How dou you know the Afganis in that photo were Taliban? Mujaheddin had several factions, one of which were Taliban. The Northern Alliance helped our special forces drive the Taliban out of Afghanistan. News Flash for Southern Man: The Taliban were never driven out of Afghanistan by the Northern Alliance or anybody else. Equating anybody that opposed the Soviet Union as *Taliban* sounds ...xenophbic. Making a distorted, false suggestion like that confirms that don't have a clue what you're talking about. From: do.rflex do.rf...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 2:16:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!' --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote: So, how is it that you know that those are Taliban? They are the radical Muslim Mujahidin. The Taliban is/was a faction of that group. I guess in 1983 they could have been, although the taliban didn't take control of Afghjanistan till some time in the 90's. The Saudis backed the Taliban and the US backed the Northern Alliance, who helped kick the Taliban out of the country. The Southern redneck needs a good history review: Fisking the War on Terror by Juan Cole - August 02, 2005 Once upon a time, a dangerous radical gained control of the US Republican Party. Reagan increased the budget for support of the radical Muslim Mujahidin conducting terrorism against the Afghanistan government to half a billion dollars a year. One fifth of the money, which the CIA mostly turned over to Pakistani military intelligence to distribute, went to Gulbuddin Hikmatyar, a violent extremist who as a youth used to throw acid on the faces of unveiled girls in Afghanistan. Not content with creating a vast terrorist network to harass the Soviets, Reagan then pressured the late King Fahd of Saudi Arabia to match US contributions. He had earlier imposed on Fahd to give money to the Contras in Nicaragua, some of which was used to create rightwing death squads. (Reagan liked to sidestep Congress in creating private terrorist organizations for his foreign policy purposes, which he branded freedom fighters, giving terrorists the idea that it was all right to inflict vast damage on civilians in order to achieve their goals). Fahd was a timid man and resisted Reagan's instructions briefly, but finally gave in to enormous US pressure. Fahd not only put Saudi government money into the Afghan Mujahideen networks, which trained them in bomb making and guerrilla tactics, but he also instructed the Minister of Intelligence, Turki al-Faisal, to try to raise money from private sources. Turki al-Faisal checked around and discovered that a young member of the fabulously wealthy Bin Laden construction dynasty, Usama, was committed to Islamic causes. Turki thus gave Usama the task of raising money from Gulf millionaires for the Afghan struggle. This whole effort was undertaken, remember, on Reagan Administration instructions. Bin Laden not only raised millions for the effort, but helped encourage Arab volunteers to go fight for Reagan against the Soviets and the Afghan communists. The Arab volunteers included people like Ayman al-Zawahiri, a young physician who had been jailed for having been involved in the assassination of Egyptian president Anwar El-Sadat. Bin Laden kept a database of these volunteers. In Arabic the word for base is al-Qaeda. In the US, the Christian Right adopted the Mujahideen as their favorite project. They even sent around a biblical checklist for grading US congressman as to how close they were to the Christian political line. If a congressman didn't support the radical Muslim Muj, he or she was downgraded by the evangelicals and fundamentalists. Reagan wanted to give more and more sophisticated weapons to the Mujahideen (freedom fighters). The Pakistani generals were forming an alliance with the fundamentalist Jamaat-i Islam and begining to support madrasahs or hardline seminaries that would teach Islamic extremism. But even they balked at giving the ragtag Muj really advanced weaponry. Pakistan had a close alliance with China, and took advice from Beijing. In 1985 Reagan sent Senator Orrin Hatch, Undersecretary of Defense Fred Iklé and others to Beijing to ask China to put pressure on Pakistan to allow the US to give the Muslim radicals, such as Hikmatyar, more sophisticated weapons. Hatch succeeded in this mission. By giving the Muj weaponry like the stinger shoulderheld missile, which could destroy advanced Soviet arms like
[FairfieldLife] Re: Manning, Archer, Bhairitu, et al: kill your pets
ShempMcGurk The article below gives the reasons you should no longer own a pet if you believe in catastrophic man-made global warming. Manning, eat your schnauzer and save the planet Rick Archer Dogs and cats don't eat any more than small omnivorous children, so by this logic everyone should kill their children, or any extra ones not needed to perpetuate the species. ShempMcGurk Killing your own children for the sake of preventing global warming, Rick? Now I think you're going a little too far. A test perhaps? The Abraham thing. Rick's deity Gaia may be thirsting for sacrifice! One should always follow right through with one's beliefs. Check out Rod Liddle below. (Two Brits figure in his piece: Lord Stern = idiotic but highy influential economist who last week urged everyone to become vegetarian. Meat is a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts enormous pressure on the world's resources. A vegetarian diet is better. Lord Stern is not himself a vegetarian. John Prescott = former Brit deputy prime minister who led the UK delegation to Kyoto. Not famous for his slim figure or modest appetites. Nor (like Gore) for his miniscule carbon footprint. Hence in modern parlance the phrase Two jags Prescott - a person who cannot be satisfied with just one gas guzzler): As someone who yearns to live a green, ethical life, I wish these climate-change experts would agree upon a common strategy. Last week we were told to help the environment by eating dogs, but I scarcely had time to sauté a spaniel before Lord Stern announced that we should give up meat altogether. That's all very well but I have three dalmatians and a golden retriever in the freezer, so what am I meant to do? I'm not even sure what bin to put them in. They'll probably end up as landfill, and that's not going to help anyone, is it? Lord Stern thinks meat is bad because the animals we eat tend to be extremely flatulent. Well, sure, but has he been out for a curry with John Prescott? One rogan josh and that's both icecaps gone. The cows, by comparison, are nowt. Meanwhile, the climate-change lobby has been urged to be a little less sensationalist (Eat dogs or all the polar bears will die!) in its apocalyptic warnings, so as to get the message across a little better. And what is the message? Another report, from last week: global temperatures have been dropping since 1998 and are expected to do so for quite a bit yet. Hold the fricassee of poodle for a while, then, and hold the mung-bean risotto. More Rod Liddle on apocalyptycism: I wonder where this yearning for catastrophe comes from? It seems to exist inside most of us; perhaps it is a Darwinian trait, a by-product of self- consciousness. Obviously, only people with lime jelly for a brain, or those who have become the captives of some psychotic cult, seriously believe the stuff about 2012 (or 2017). And continues... http://tinyurl.com/ydne8bu
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Seems that for close to seven years, nobody in the media has found anything on FFL newsworthy enough to write about (if anybody even had the interest to look). But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right? Yeah, right, a major major expose. (That was sarcasm, I hope you realize.) Read all about it! Read all about it! Group of sincere hearts abused by tyrant and cronies. What could be a more common headline? Reminds me a bit of the TMO fantasy that the CIA had infiltrated the movement because they were terrified it was going to take over the world. I wouldn't be surprised to find that the CIA *did* do some investigating, but the resultant memo would have concluded that the movement was way too silly and f*cked up to ever be any kind of threat to national security, so there was no need to waste any more time on it. Seems to me this campaign of Doug's is one instance where Barry's self-importance trope actually applies. Oh, wait--isn't it Barry who's been agitating for dissident TMers to run to the media with the Big Story about the petition refusing to participate in group meditation? Never mind... cackle
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!'
Still dodging the question, eh? How do you know anybody in the photo of Reagan meeting Afghan Mujaheddin were Taliban or belonged to any other group? Taliban never driven out of Afghanistan? Tell that to Mullah Omar and his government, tens of thousands of Afghani refugees living in Pakistan's tribal regions and Obama Bin Laden. They are radical Muslim Mujahidin. The Taliban is/was a faction of that group. Sorry, but it sounds like you are equating all Mujaheddin as radical Muslims on a level with the Taliban. Don't they call that *painting with a broad brush*, xenaphobic? From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 7:33:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!' --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote: If FairfieldLife' s very own expatriot postal worker was trying to answer for Robert, you failed. The Question was, How dou you know the Afganis in that photo were Taliban? Mujaheddin had several factions, one of which were Taliban. The Northern Alliance helped our special forces drive the Taliban out of Afghanistan. News Flash for Southern Man: The Taliban were never driven out of Afghanistan by the Northern Alliance or anybody else. Equating anybody that opposed the Soviet Union as *Taliban* sounds ...xenophbic. Making a distorted, false suggestion like that confirms that don't have a clue what you're talking about. _ _ __ From: do.rflex do.rf...@.. . To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 2:16:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!' --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote: So, how is it that you know that those are Taliban? They are the radical Muslim Mujahidin. The Taliban is/was a faction of that group. I guess in 1983 they could have been, although the taliban didn't take control of Afghjanistan till some time in the 90's. The Saudis backed the Taliban and the US backed the Northern Alliance, who helped kick the Taliban out of the country. The Southern redneck needs a good history review: Fisking the War on Terror by Juan Cole - August 02, 2005 Once upon a time, a dangerous radical gained control of the US Republican Party. Reagan increased the budget for support of the radical Muslim Mujahidin conducting terrorism against the Afghanistan government to half a billion dollars a year. One fifth of the money, which the CIA mostly turned over to Pakistani military intelligence to distribute, went to Gulbuddin Hikmatyar, a violent extremist who as a youth used to throw acid on the faces of unveiled girls in Afghanistan. Not content with creating a vast terrorist network to harass the Soviets, Reagan then pressured the late King Fahd of Saudi Arabia to match US contributions. He had earlier imposed on Fahd to give money to the Contras in Nicaragua, some of which was used to create rightwing death squads. (Reagan liked to sidestep Congress in creating private terrorist organizations for his foreign policy purposes, which he branded freedom fighters, giving terrorists the idea that it was all right to inflict vast damage on civilians in order to achieve their goals). Fahd was a timid man and resisted Reagan's instructions briefly, but finally gave in to enormous US pressure. Fahd not only put Saudi government money into the Afghan Mujahideen networks, which trained them in bomb making and guerrilla tactics, but he also instructed the Minister of Intelligence, Turki al-Faisal, to try to raise money from private sources. Turki al-Faisal checked around and discovered that a young member of the fabulously wealthy Bin Laden construction dynasty, Usama, was committed to Islamic causes. Turki thus gave Usama the task of raising money from Gulf millionaires for the Afghan struggle. This whole effort was undertaken, remember, on Reagan Administration instructions. Bin Laden not only raised millions for the effort, but helped encourage Arab volunteers to go fight for Reagan against the Soviets and the Afghan communists. The Arab volunteers included people like Ayman al-Zawahiri, a young physician who had been jailed for having been involved in the assassination of Egyptian president Anwar El-Sadat. Bin Laden kept a database of these volunteers. In Arabic the word for base is al-Qaeda. In the US, the Christian Right adopted the Mujahideen as their favorite project. They even sent around a biblical checklist for grading US congressman as to how close they were to the Christian political line. If a congressman didn't support the radical Muslim Muj, he or she was downgraded by the evangelicals and fundamentalists. Reagan wanted to
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Still dodging the question, eh? How do you know anybody in the photo of Reagan meeting Afghan Mujaheddin were Taliban or belonged to any other group? See response to your last point below. Basically, it's a distinction without a difference. Taliban never driven out of Afghanistan? Tell that to Mullah Omar and his government, tens of thousands of Afghani refugees living in Pakistan's tribal regions and Obama Bin Laden. Uh, some were driven out, a lot were not. They are radical Muslim Mujahidin. The Taliban is/was a faction of that group. Sorry, but it sounds like you are equating all Mujaheddin as radical Muslims on a level with the Taliban. Point is, back then we didn't bother to make such fine distinctions. Anybody who was fighting the Russkies was A-OK with us. To paraphrase somebody-or-other, they may have been sons-of-bitches, but they were *our* sons- of-bitches. I doubt you'll find anything from that era approving of the mujahidin in general but singling out the Taliban for special condemnation. We really didn't care. By the same token, however, it's a little disingenuous to claim Reagan *approved* of the Taliban qua Taliban. What he approved of was hostility to the Russians; other qualities were unimportant. Don't they call that *painting with a broad brush*, xenaphobic? No. From Mr. Dictionary: xenophobia--fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Seems that for close to seven years, nobody in the media has found anything on FFL newsworthy enough to write about (if anybody even had the interest to look). But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right? Yeah, right, a major major expose. (That was sarcasm, I hope you realize.) Read all about it! Read all about it! Group of sincere hearts abused by tyrant and cronies. What could be a more common headline? Reminds me a bit of the TMO fantasy that the CIA had infiltrated the movement because they were terrified it was going to take over the world. I wouldn't be surprised to find that the CIA *did* do some investigating, but the resultant memo would have concluded that the movement was way too silly and f*cked up to ever be any kind of threat to national security, so there was no need to waste any more time on it. Seems to me this campaign of Doug's is one instance where Barry's self-importance trope actually applies. Oh, wait--isn't it Barry who's been agitating for dissident TMers to run to the media with the Big Story about the petition refusing to participate in group meditation? Never mind... cackle There's babies laughing, and too, there's cats purring, and there's the sound that Goofy makes at 5:32 into this cartoon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGsJmHhfnzg but there's nothing purer, nothing more definitive, nothing with quite the imprimatur that the cackle cackled by the Cacklemeister can stamp on a conceit!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Manning, Archer, Bhairitu, et al: kill your pets
ShempMcGurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:49 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Manning, Archer, Bhairitu, et al: kill your pets The article below gives the reasons you should no longer own a pet if you believe in catastrophic man-made global warming. Manning, eat your schnauzer and save the planet Dogs and cats don't eat any more than small omnivorous children, so by this logic everyone should kill their children, or any extra ones not needed to perpetuate the species. Killing your own children for the sake of preventing global warming, Rick? Now I think you're going a little too far. Not to worry, the H1N1 vaccine will cull the population. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Still dodging the question, eh? How do you know anybody in the photo of Reagan meeting Afghan Mujaheddin were Taliban or belonged to any other group? You're not paying attention, fella. The Taliban are/were a faction of the radical Muslim Mujahidin. Taliban never driven out of Afghanistan? Tell that to Mullah Omar and his government, tens of thousands of Afghani refugees living in Pakistan's tribal regions and Obama Bin Laden. The Taliban is today classified by security analysts as an alternative government in Afghanistan. It operates fifteen Sharia law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_law courts in the country's southern provinces handling civil and commercial cases and collects taxes on harvests in farming areas. Reflecting its persistent power to intimidate the populace, the Taliban implemented one of the strictest interpretation[s] of Sharia law ever seen in the Muslim world http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world , yet still occasionally updates its code of conduct.[11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#cite_note-10 In mid-2009, it established an ombudsman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman office in northern Kandahar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandahar , which has been described as a direct challenge to the ISAF [International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#cite_note-11 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban = = Taliban strength in Afghanistan nears military proportionMcClatchy - Wed Oct 14, 2009 WASHINGTON -- A recent U.S. intelligence assessment has raised the estimated number of full-time Taliban -led insurgents fighting in Afghanistan to at least 25,000, underscoring how the crisis has worsened even as the U.S. and its allies have beefed up their military forces, a U.S. official said Thursday. The U.S. official, who requested anonymity because the assessment is classified, said the estimate represented an increase of at least 5,000 fighters, or 25 percent, over what an estimate found last year. http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20091015/wl_mcclatchy/450 They are radical Muslim Mujahidin. The Taliban is/was a faction of that group. Sorry, but it sounds like you are equating all Mujaheddin as radical Muslims on a level with the Taliban. Now the Southern Man makes up stuff. Never did I equate the radical Muslim Mujahidin on the same level with the Taliban. All I did was state that the Taliban was a faction of the radical Muslim Mujahidin. The KKK, it could be said, is a faction of the Confederate loving South. That doesn't mean that all Southerners are members of the KKK. They certainly aren't. What's with your bullshit, Dixon? Don't they call that *painting with a broad brush*, xenaphobic? There's nothing xenophobic about reporting the facts, Southern Man. From: do.rflex do.rf...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 7:33:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!' --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote: If FairfieldLife' s very own expatriot postal worker was trying to answer for Robert, you failed. The Question was, How dou you know the Afganis in that photo were Taliban? Mujaheddin had several factions, one of which were Taliban. The Northern Alliance helped our special forces drive the Taliban out of Afghanistan. News Flash for Southern Man: The Taliban were never driven out of Afghanistan by the Northern Alliance or anybody else. Equating anybody that opposed the Soviet Union as *Taliban* sounds ...xenophbic. Making a distorted, false suggestion like that confirms that don't have a clue what you're talking about. _ _ __ From: do.rflex do.rflex@ . To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sat, October 31, 2009 2:16:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!' --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote: So, how is it that you know that those are Taliban? They are the radical Muslim Mujahidin. The Taliban is/was a faction of that group. I guess in 1983 they could have been, although the taliban didn't take control of Afghjanistan till some time in the 90's. The Saudis backed the Taliban and the US backed the Northern Alliance, who helped kick the Taliban out of the country. The Southern redneck needs a good history review: Fisking the War on Terror by Juan Cole - August 02, 2005 Once upon a time, a dangerous radical gained control of the US Republican Party. Reagan increased the budget for support of the radical Muslim Mujahidin conducting terrorism against the Afghanistan government to half a billion dollars a year. One fifth of the money, which the CIA mostly turned over to Pakistani
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip cackle There's babies laughing, [baby cackle] http://www.flickr.com/photos/36189...@n02/4064323061/ and too, there's cats purring, [kitty purr 01] http://www.flickr.com/photos/36189...@n02/4064323119/ and there's the sound that Goofy makes at 5:32 into this cartoon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGsJmHhfnzg but there's nothing purer, nothing more definitive, nothing with quite the imprimatur that the cackle cackled by the Cacklemeister can stamp on a conceit! [cackle cloud] http://www.flickr.com/photos/36189...@n02/4065070138/
[FairfieldLife] America, stop sucking up to Israel
America, stop sucking up to Israel By Gideon Levy mailto:l...@haaretz.co.il Obama meeting with Netanyahu and Abbas in New York. Reuters Haaretz Newspaper in Israel - Barack Obama has been busy - offering the Jewish People blessings for Rosh Hashanah, and recording a flattering video for the President's Conference in Jerusalem and another for Yitzhak Rabin's memorial rally. Only Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah surpasses him in terms of sheer output of recorded remarks. In all the videos, Obama heaps sticky-sweet praise on Israel, even though he has spent nearly a year fruitlessly lobbying for Israel to be so kind as to do something, anything - even just a temporary freeze on settlement building - to advance the peace process. The president's Mideast envoy, George Mitchell, has also been busy, shuttling between a funeral (for IDF soldier Asaf Ramon, the son of Israel's first astronaut Ilan Ramon) and a memorial (for Rabin, though it was postponed until next week due to rain), in order to find favor with Israelis. Polls have shown that Obama is increasingly unpopular here, with an approval rating of only 6 to 10 percent. He decided to address Israelis by video, but a persuasive speech won't persuade anyone to end the occupation. He simply should have told the Israeli people the truth. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who arrived here last night, will certainly express similar sentiments: commitment to Israel's security, strategic alliance, the need for peace, and so on . Before no other country on the planet does the United States kneel and plead like this. In other trouble spots, America takes a different tone. It bombs in Afghanistan, invades Iraq and threatens sanctions against Iran and North Korea. Did anyone in Washington consider begging Saddam Hussein to withdraw from occupied territory in Kuwait? But Israel the occupier, the stubborn contrarian that continues to mock America and the world by building settlements and abusing the Palestinians, receives different treatment. Another massage to the national ego in one video, more embarrassing praise in another. Now is the time to say to the United States: Enough flattery. If you don't change the tone, nothing will change. As long as Israel feels the United States is in its pocket, and that America's automatic veto will save it from condemnations and sanctions, that it will receive massive aid unconditionally, and that it can continue waging punitive, lethal campaigns without a word from Washington, killing, destroying and imprisoning without the world's policeman making a sound, it will continue in its ways. Illegal acts like the occupation and settlement expansion, and offensives that may have involved war crimes, as in Gaza, deserve a different approach. If America and the world had issued condemnations after Operation Summer Rains in 2006 - which left 400 Palestinians dead and severe infrastructure damage in the first major operation in Gaza since the disengagement - then Operation Cast Lead never would have been launched. It is true that unlike all the world's other troublemakers, Israel is viewed as a Western democracy, but Israel of 2009 is a country whose language is force. Anwar Sadat may have been the last leader to win our hearts with optimistic, hope-igniting speeches. If he were to visit Israel today, he would be jeered off the stage. The Syrian president pleads for peace and Israel callously dismisses him, the United States begs for a settlement free ze and Israel turns up its nose. This is what happens when there are no consequences for Israel's inaction. When Clinton returns to Washington, she should advocate a sharp policy change toward Israel. Israeli hearts can no longer be won with hope, promises of a better future or sweet talk, for this is no longer Israel's language. For something to change, Israel must understand that perpetuating the status quo will exact a painful price. Israel of 2009 is a spoiled country, arrogant and condescending, convinced that it deserves everything and that it has the power to make a fool of America and the world. The United States has engendered this situation, which endangers the entire Mideast and Israel itself. That is why there needs to be a turning point in the coming year - Washington needs to finally say no to Israel and the occupation. An unambiguous, presidential no. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1124928.html?
Re: [FairfieldLife] America, stop sucking up to Israel
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:47 AM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: America, stop sucking up to Israel By Gideon Levy We can't stop sucking up to Israel. Israel is closer to the 51st state of the US than Canada. Too many Americans consider Israel their real, historic home. Too much money raising. Too many jews in power in the US who exert their power to keep us kissing Israel's ass. Hell, you've heard it all before. We even supplied a prime minister of Israel some years ago. Add to that the Reservations thing with the Christians wanting to bring on the Second Coming to Israel, and we'll never stop sucking up to Israel. The Israel situation could have been solved many times over the past 60 years if the US had just turned its back on Israel. But we can't. That plot of land has biblical title on it saying it belongs to Israel and the US has to help enforce the biblical title on the land. Yes, I've been to Israel many times. Yes, I think it's populated by a bunch of religious fanatics who rival the homicide bomb people, but best never say that in Israel. -- Life is not what you see, but what you've projected. It's not what you've felt, but what you've decided. It's not what you've experienced, but how you've remembered it. It's not what you've forged, but what you've allowed. And it's not who's appeared, but who you've summoned.
[FairfieldLife] 3 Ways To Life Happy And Healthy With Irritable Bowel Syndrome!
Let me ask you something. What do Tyra Banks, Camille Grammer and Cybil Sheppard all have in common? They all suffer from irritable bowel syndrome along with about 20% of the rest of the population, according to recent studies. I'm the IBS Diva. And I say having irritable bowel syndrome doesn't have to be a death sentence. There are ways not only to cope but to thrive and live a happy, healthy life Read more: http://a.lazaza.com/?p=10
[FairfieldLife] Intelligence
by Isaac Asimov What is intelligence, anyway? When I was in the army, I received the kind of aptitude test that all soldiers took and, against a normal of 100, scored 160. No one at the base had ever seen a figure like that, and for two hours they made a big fuss over me. (It didn't mean anything. The next day I was still a buck private with KP - kitchen police - as my highest duty.) All my life I've been registering scores like that, so that I have the complacent feeling that I'm highly intelligent, and I expect other people to think so too. Actually, though, don't such scores simply mean that I am very good at answering the type of academic questions that are considered worthy of answers by people who make up the intelligence tests - people with intellectual bents similar to mine? For instance, I had an auto-repair man once, who, on these intelligence tests, could not possibly have scored more than 80, by my estimate. I always took it for granted that I was far more intelligent than he was. Yet, when anything went wrong with my car I hastened to him with it, watched him anxiously as he explored its vitals, and listened to his pronouncements as though they were divine oracles - and he always fixed my car. Well, then, suppose my auto-repair man devised questions for an intelligence test. Or suppose a carpenter did, or a farmer, or, indeed, almost anyone but an academician. By every one of those tests, I'd prove myself a moron, and I'd be a moron, too. In a world where I could not use my academic training and my verbal talents but had to do something intricate or hard, working with my hands, I would do poorly. My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in and of the fact that a small subsection of that society has managed to foist itself on the rest as an arbiter of such matters. Consider my auto-repair man, again. He had a habit of telling me jokes whenever he saw me. One time he raised his head from under the automobile hood to say: Doc, a deaf-and-mute guy went into a hardware store to ask for some nails. He put two fingers together on the counter and made hammering motions with the other hand. The clerk brought him a hammer. He shook his head and pointed to the two fingers he was hammering. The clerk brought him nails. He picked out the sizes he wanted, and left. Well, doc, the next guy who came in was a blind man. He wanted scissors. How do you suppose he asked for them? Indulgently, I lifted by right hand and made scissoring motions with my first two fingers. Whereupon my auto-repair man laughed raucously and said, Why, you dumb jerk, He used his voice and asked for them. Then he said smugly, I've been trying that on all my customers today. Did you catch many? I asked. Quite a few, he said, but I knew for sure I'd catch you. Why is that? I asked. Because you're so goddamned educated, doc, I knew you couldn't be very smart. And I have an uneasy feeling he had something there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 7 States of Consciousness (Was: Is CC flat suffering?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Or Shearer: There are 7 stages in the growth of this wisdom. Lemme stop you there before you swallow your whole leg. Thanks for sharing the smarmy Shearer translation which I found very entertaining to read. What exactly is so smarmy in that translation?
[FairfieldLife] Is Obama another Alex Haley?
November 01, 2009 Before Dreams, There Was Roots By Jack Cashill Americanthinker.com This is the first president that actually writes his own books since Teddy Roosevelt and arguably the first to write them really well since Lincoln, gushed Rocco Landesman, the new chairman of the National Endowment for the Arts. Landesman was referring, of course, to Barack Obama, specifically for Obama's presumed role as author of the acclaimed 1995 memoir, Dreams From My Father. As evidence mounts that Obama did not exactly write Dreams unassisted, Landesman gives us a good indication of how America's cultural honchos will react. For a century, in fact, they have been heaping uncritical praise on undeserving artists of a certain political stripe, especially minority artists. And for a century, they have been pulling the curtain shut behind their pet wizards when anyone questions their wizardry. There is no better case study of a literary cover-up than that surrounding the publishing phenomenon known as Roots: The Saga of an American Family. The book, first published in 1976, generated extraordinary reviews and spectacular sales. The mini-series based on the book captured more viewers than any series before it. 130 million Americans watched the final episode alone. And its author, Alex Haley, won a special Pulitzer Prize for telling the true story of a black family. As Haley tells the story, he decides to trace his family's heritage to its African roots. All that he has to guide him are the tales his grandmother and great aunts have told him about the farthest-back person they could recall, the African. According to his relatives, the African's master had called him Toby after he first arrived by ship in Naplis. Proud and defiant, Toby continued to call himself Kin-tay. In time, Toby had a little girl named Kizzy. Working from little more than this and the names of Kizzy's descendants, Haley finds his way back to an old-time griot, who tells him the allegedly true story of his own ancestor, Kunta Kinte. As the story goes, Kinte grows up in a peaceful, sheltering community along the Gambia River in West Africa. He is well-schooled in math, writing, and the Islamic faith. Admittedly, there is slavery in this part of the world, but slaves were respected people, whose rights were secured by the laws of Kinte's ancestors. There is also war, but it is fought under Marquis-of-Queensbury-like rules. Only the greed and treason introduced by white slave traders keeps Kinte's land from realizing its potential as an African Eden. At age seventeen, Kinte is snatched from his youthful idyll by the evil, club-bearing toubobs, or white people. When he finally regains his senses four days later, Kinte finds himself chained in the stinking hold of an ocean-going vessel, manned by ugly toubobs, all of them seemingly British or American. After a hellish journey, he arrives in Annapolis, attempts to escape four times, and is subdued only after some poor white bounty hunters chop off half his foot. The year is 1767. Despite the book's easy-going tone, Haley is quietly laying out an indictment against the United States that is always loaded and often gratuitous. In Haley's tale, it is the whites who enter the forest and enslave the blacks, not Arab slave traders, not other blacks. Since Kinte is unconscious through the period of transaction, the reader has no picture of African participation in the slave market, nor of any Portuguese or Hispanic involvement in the slave trade. As a Muslim, Kinte does not sense any virtue in Christianity. Indeed, it strikes him as crude and hypocritical. Coming of age during the revolutionary period in Virginia, Kinte sees the revolution as inherently fraudulent: 'Give me liberty or give me death,' Kunta liked that, but he couldn't understand how somebody white could say it; white folks looked pretty free to him. Fraud is the means Haley uses to indulge his bias, and this he does in an extraordinarily reckless fashion. Unfortunately for Haley, at least one person in the cultural establishment was not about to give him a pass because of race or agenda. Approaching seventy when Roots debuted, Harold Courlander was shocked to read it. Courlander, who himself was white, was well-recognized in the field of cultural anthropology since 1947 when he coauthored The Cow-Tail Switch and Other West African Stories. In 1967, he wrote a more conventional novel titled The African. He earned $14,000 for it. Less than ten years later, Haley flagrantly rewrote large sections of his book and made $2.6 million in hardcover royalties alone. Courlander was not a happy camper. In 1978, Courlander sued Haley in a U.S. District Court for copyright infringement. Throughout the six weeks of testimony, U.S. District Court Judge Robert Ward listened in disbelief to denial after denial by Haley. On one occasion, he noted that Haley used Yoo-hooo-ah-hoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligence
In the vedic varnas, the brahmanas are the smartest of all the four groups in society. However, they don't rule the people, nor do the hard work. The brahmans are responsible for the priestly or advisory duties in society. The kshatreyas are in charge of the executive and enforcement work. For busines and mercantile work, the vaishas perform them. The rest of the hard work is given to the sudras. So in this system, everyone benefits for the sake of forming a society or a community. Anyone who doesn't fit in the system becomes a chandala, or the untouchables. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: by Isaac Asimov What is intelligence, anyway? When I was in the army, I received the kind of aptitude test that all soldiers took and, against a normal of 100, scored 160. No one at the base had ever seen a figure like that, and for two hours they made a big fuss over me. (It didn't mean anything. The next day I was still a buck private with KP - kitchen police - as my highest duty.) All my life I've been registering scores like that, so that I have the complacent feeling that I'm highly intelligent, and I expect other people to think so too. Actually, though, don't such scores simply mean that I am very good at answering the type of academic questions that are considered worthy of answers by people who make up the intelligence tests - people with intellectual bents similar to mine? For instance, I had an auto-repair man once, who, on these intelligence tests, could not possibly have scored more than 80, by my estimate. I always took it for granted that I was far more intelligent than he was. Yet, when anything went wrong with my car I hastened to him with it, watched him anxiously as he explored its vitals, and listened to his pronouncements as though they were divine oracles - and he always fixed my car. Well, then, suppose my auto-repair man devised questions for an intelligence test. Or suppose a carpenter did, or a farmer, or, indeed, almost anyone but an academician. By every one of those tests, I'd prove myself a moron, and I'd be a moron, too. In a world where I could not use my academic training and my verbal talents but had to do something intricate or hard, working with my hands, I would do poorly. My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in and of the fact that a small subsection of that society has managed to foist itself on the rest as an arbiter of such matters. Consider my auto-repair man, again. He had a habit of telling me jokes whenever he saw me. One time he raised his head from under the automobile hood to say: Doc, a deaf-and-mute guy went into a hardware store to ask for some nails. He put two fingers together on the counter and made hammering motions with the other hand. The clerk brought him a hammer. He shook his head and pointed to the two fingers he was hammering. The clerk brought him nails. He picked out the sizes he wanted, and left. Well, doc, the next guy who came in was a blind man. He wanted scissors. How do you suppose he asked for them? Indulgently, I lifted by right hand and made scissoring motions with my first two fingers. Whereupon my auto-repair man laughed raucously and said, Why, you dumb jerk, He used his voice and asked for them. Then he said smugly, I've been trying that on all my customers today. Did you catch many? I asked. Quite a few, he said, but I knew for sure I'd catch you. Why is that? I asked. Because you're so goddamned educated, doc, I knew you couldn't be very smart. And I have an uneasy feeling he had something there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: In the vedic varnas, the brahmanas are the smartest of all the four groups in society. However, they don't rule the people, nor do the hard work. The brahmans are responsible for the priestly or advisory duties in society. The kshatreyas are in charge of the executive and enforcement work. For busines and mercantile work, the vaishas perform them. The rest of the hard work is given to the sudras. So in this system, everyone benefits for the sake of forming a society or a community. Anyone who doesn't fit in the system becomes a chandala, or the untouchables. Is there upward or downward mobility between the groups during one's lifetime? Can a sudra become a Brahman or a kshatreya become a Brahman? Or can a Brahman who messes his life up end up a sudra by the end of his life? Or does this just happen between lifetimes, ie. if you start off at the lower rung -- sudras -- if you do a good job at each level you will get to be braman in four lifetimes? And can you be enlightened as a, say, sudra? Or do you have to wait until you are a Brahman before the opportunity for enlightenment is available to you? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: by Isaac Asimov What is intelligence, anyway? When I was in the army, I received the kind of aptitude test that all soldiers took and, against a normal of 100, scored 160. No one at the base had ever seen a figure like that, and for two hours they made a big fuss over me. (It didn't mean anything. The next day I was still a buck private with KP - kitchen police - as my highest duty.) All my life I've been registering scores like that, so that I have the complacent feeling that I'm highly intelligent, and I expect other people to think so too. Actually, though, don't such scores simply mean that I am very good at answering the type of academic questions that are considered worthy of answers by people who make up the intelligence tests - people with intellectual bents similar to mine? For instance, I had an auto-repair man once, who, on these intelligence tests, could not possibly have scored more than 80, by my estimate. I always took it for granted that I was far more intelligent than he was. Yet, when anything went wrong with my car I hastened to him with it, watched him anxiously as he explored its vitals, and listened to his pronouncements as though they were divine oracles - and he always fixed my car. Well, then, suppose my auto-repair man devised questions for an intelligence test. Or suppose a carpenter did, or a farmer, or, indeed, almost anyone but an academician. By every one of those tests, I'd prove myself a moron, and I'd be a moron, too. In a world where I could not use my academic training and my verbal talents but had to do something intricate or hard, working with my hands, I would do poorly. My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in and of the fact that a small subsection of that society has managed to foist itself on the rest as an arbiter of such matters. Consider my auto-repair man, again. He had a habit of telling me jokes whenever he saw me. One time he raised his head from under the automobile hood to say: Doc, a deaf-and-mute guy went into a hardware store to ask for some nails. He put two fingers together on the counter and made hammering motions with the other hand. The clerk brought him a hammer. He shook his head and pointed to the two fingers he was hammering. The clerk brought him nails. He picked out the sizes he wanted, and left. Well, doc, the next guy who came in was a blind man. He wanted scissors. How do you suppose he asked for them? Indulgently, I lifted by right hand and made scissoring motions with my first two fingers. Whereupon my auto-repair man laughed raucously and said, Why, you dumb jerk, He used his voice and asked for them. Then he said smugly, I've been trying that on all my customers today. Did you catch many? I asked. Quite a few, he said, but I knew for sure I'd catch you. Why is that? I asked. Because you're so goddamned educated, doc, I knew you couldn't be very smart. And I have an uneasy feeling he had something there.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: How to leave a cult with style
When he wrote this post on Thursday, Barry was still smarting mightily from being caught in one mistake after another in a Tuesday post designed to show off his tech savvy (and, not incidentally, to demean mine). So what does this paragon of spirituality, who lectures us all constantly on our bad behavior and negative emotions and delusions, do to relieve his own annoyance? Naturally, he makes up a load of horsesh*it to throw at me in retaliation for my *factual* post pointing out the howling errors in his post about the Salon redesign. When Barry posts horsesh*t (when doesn't he?), I usually refer to it as fantasizing, to leave an element of doubt as to whether he believes what he's saying. In this case, though, he's just lying. He's posted this same rant probably a dozen times (although he's hoping Hugo never saw it, and its rebuttal), and each time I've corrected the falsehoods. The facts are amply documented in the record. Of all the statements he makes below, only two are factual: that I hadn't seen the film, and that it wasn't necessary to see the film to make the observation I made about Gibson. Everything else is false, and he knows it's false. (If anybody's interested, I'll be happy to repost the refutations thereof, with documentation.) And we don't laugh this person off the forum when he tells us how to be spiritual?? In a more recent post, he wrote: People say that they dislike lying. They're lying. Either that or they are fools who have never realized the important part that lying plays in everyday life. We already know lying plays an *extremely* important part in Barry's life, at least on FFL (and before that on alt.m.t, and also on Knapp's TMFree blog). Notice the black-and-white formulation (wasn't he extolling shades of gray in a recent post?) that fails to account for the very obvious fact that there is a wide range of types of lies. One type *is* indispensable in everyday life; we all tell these types of lies. They grease the social skids and are generally quite benign. And then there are the types of lies Barry tells: the malicious ones, intended to do harm, like the ones he tells in the post I'm responding to: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip As an example of how easily people with weak minds can be programmed to believe they've had an experience they have not, one might consider the example of someone convincing themselves that Mel Gibson's film Apocalypto reveals him to be a Christian bigot, based *solely* on something she had read. The person who did this manufactured the experience of knowing that Gibson was a bigot and *continues to defend* that she knows he is a Christian bigot, even though she has *still* never had the personal experience ofseeing the movie. She has, in fact, hallucinated seeing the movie based on the roadmap of an article she read and chose to believe was accurate. Furthermore, she will defend knowing that Mel Gibson is a Christian bigot till her dying day rather than *admit* that she was programmed by something she read to believe that she had the experience of knowing the truth about Gibson. As she has said many times, she doesn't *need* to ever see the movie to know the truth. She already knows it...based *solely* on what she was told to believe. I think that the metaphor she was searching for above is that she believes in roadmaps that con- vince you to believe what you already want to believe. Given her clear example, it doesn't *matter* whether you've ever been there or not, as long as you can convince yourself that reading about it is just as good as having been there. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dan Brown's next novel is based on the TM movement
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip This particular rap is probably not universal, in that people who have not paid their dues in the TM movement would think that I was making up stuff like enormous ice elephants and yogic flying and yagyas performed to impulses of creative intelligence that are really Hindu gods and goddesses, much less a bunch of people dressed up in robes and crowns considering them- selves the Rajas and King of an imaginary Global Country Of World Peace. It's just so weird that most people would not believe it could be true. One of the reasons I wrote this rap, though (besides the purging-Dan-Brown's-vibe thang) is that a lot of hanger-on TM True Believers manage to put this stuff out of sight, out of mind. They continue to defend TM as if it were *only* TM that was being sold and marketed, and as if this craziness at the top didn't exist. Or because they don't think the craziness at the top affects the value of the techniques. It exists. It is arguably weirder than any other cult on the planet Um, except maybe Hinduism? guffaw
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to leave a cult with style
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Oct 31, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Premanand wrote: The quote I offered very definitely came from Maharishi on 8th July 1971. You can a copy of 19710708_Amherst_2_MMY_on_GuruDev at:- http://www.spiritualregeneration.org/LecturesMMYPage1971.html The quote appears between 00:21:00 and 00:22:30 I had no doubt to the veracity of your attribution, I was just pointing out these are obviously two different quotations from two very different sources. Fascinating response from Vaj. There was only one single quotation being discussed in this thread, the one Paul cited, not two. Vaj questioned Paul's attribution, saying the quote came from Prakashanand, not MMY. Paul reiterated that it was indeed from MMY. Vaj needed to back down, but he couldn't just say he was wrong; he had to pretend there were two different quotations involved, one from MMY and one from Prakashanand, and that he'd never challenged Paul's attribution of the one from MMY. Another spiritual giant among us...
[FairfieldLife] Now Educational Loans to learn TM
Recent News Affordable educational loans now available to learn the Transcendental Meditation technique! People ages 16 and over can now learn the Transcendental Meditation program through affordable educational loans with low interest and low monthly payments available to pay for the course. Most people will qualify for 5-6 year loans with monthly payments of $50 Private educational loans that fully cover the course tuition. $2,000 loans from CitiBank or Sallie Mae http://www.mum.edu/tmcourse/financial.html Jai Adi Shankara, -D in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: In the vedic varnas, the brahmanas are the smartest of all the four groups in society. However, they don't rule the people, nor do the hard work. The brahmans are responsible for the priestly or advisory duties in society. The kshatreyas are in charge of the executive and enforcement work. For busines and mercantile work, the vaishas perform them. The rest of the hard work is given to the sudras. So in this system, everyone benefits for the sake of forming a society or a community. Anyone who doesn't fit in the system becomes a chandala, or the untouchables. Is there upward or downward mobility between the groups during one's lifetime? Can a sudra become a Brahman or a kshatreya become a Brahman? Or can a Brahman who messes his life up end up a sudra by the end of his life? In an ideal varna system, the status in society is earned not inherited by families. Those who have the aptitude for intellectual pursuits and education should be considered as brahmanas. It should not matter whether he or she was born under the other groups in society. Conversely, those who were born into a brahmana family but do not have the aptitude for intellectual work should not be considered as a brahmana in society. Or does this just happen between lifetimes, ie. if you start off at the lower rung -- sudras -- if you do a good job at each level you will get to be braman in four lifetimes? Ideally, if a person is qualified for intellectual work, then he or she should be considered a brahmana. And can you be enlightened as a, say, sudra? Or do you have to wait until you are a Brahman before the opportunity for enlightenment is available to you? A sudra can be enlightened just like anybody else. Enlightenment is independent of your status in life. As MMY states, enlightenment is attainable by anybody. It's a matter of achieving the highest level of consciousness, Unity Consciousness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: by Isaac Asimov What is intelligence, anyway? When I was in the army, I received the kind of aptitude test that all soldiers took and, against a normal of 100, scored 160. No one at the base had ever seen a figure like that, and for two hours they made a big fuss over me. (It didn't mean anything. The next day I was still a buck private with KP - kitchen police - as my highest duty.) All my life I've been registering scores like that, so that I have the complacent feeling that I'm highly intelligent, and I expect other people to think so too. Actually, though, don't such scores simply mean that I am very good at answering the type of academic questions that are considered worthy of answers by people who make up the intelligence tests - people with intellectual bents similar to mine? For instance, I had an auto-repair man once, who, on these intelligence tests, could not possibly have scored more than 80, by my estimate. I always took it for granted that I was far more intelligent than he was. Yet, when anything went wrong with my car I hastened to him with it, watched him anxiously as he explored its vitals, and listened to his pronouncements as though they were divine oracles - and he always fixed my car. Well, then, suppose my auto-repair man devised questions for an intelligence test. Or suppose a carpenter did, or a farmer, or, indeed, almost anyone but an academician. By every one of those tests, I'd prove myself a moron, and I'd be a moron, too. In a world where I could not use my academic training and my verbal talents but had to do something intricate or hard, working with my hands, I would do poorly. My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in and of the fact that a small subsection of that society has managed to foist itself on the rest as an arbiter of such matters. Consider my auto-repair man, again. He had a habit of telling me jokes whenever he saw me. One time he raised his head from under the automobile hood to say: Doc, a deaf-and-mute guy went into a hardware store to ask for some nails. He put two fingers together on the counter and made hammering motions with the other hand. The clerk brought him a hammer. He shook his head and pointed to the two fingers he was hammering. The clerk brought him nails. He picked out the sizes he wanted, and left. Well, doc, the next guy who came in was a blind man. He wanted scissors. How do you suppose he asked for them? Indulgently, I lifted by right hand and made scissoring motions with my first two fingers. Whereupon my auto-repair man laughed
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right? Yeah, right, a major major expose. Well, actually it is mighty interesting to see who looks in and comes through FF and FFL. Is also amusing to wonder who some people here think they are writing for here as their audience as they push the `send' button.
[FairfieldLife] This looks fun...
From the director of Napoleon Dynamite, Gentleman Broncos: http://www.foxsearchlight.com/gentlemenbroncos/ Should be in wide release Friday.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: [I wrote:] But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right? [Edg wrote:] Yeah, right, a major major expose. Well, actually it is mighty interesting to see who looks in and comes through FF and FFL. So when should we expect to see the expose? Is also amusing to wonder who some people here think they are writing for here as their audience as they push the `send' button. But not amusing to you, because you don't read their posts. snicker
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The CIA~Addicted to Death and Drugs!'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: So, the CIA's main business is to keep the drugs flowing so they can make money, but not to keep blacks down. (snip) I'm not sure, who they are trying to keep 'Down'... I think they are an equal opportunity organization. Their their primary interest is Money and Control(In God We Trust!)... If they are attempting to keep the 'Blacks' down, they aren't doing such a good job, since we miraculously have a black President... I don't think they care anything, for anybody, other than to keep power at all costs... You notice what just happened in Afghanistan...status quo..all the way. I first learned of this, through a friend, in Philly, who claimed he made a million dollars, flying heroin in from Thailand, with CIA clearance, in the 1980's... He had no reason to make up such a story... He also told me, that the money he made, was 'Dirty Money'... And when he decided to 'Clean up his Life'... He had to go through and spend all the dirty money, and start over... I remember Maharishi saying, that the way money is earned, affects it's karma... So, all the money involved with drugs, weapons sales, and the other Billions, have bad karma attached to it... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligence
You used the word ideally below several times in answering questions. I'm wondering whether ideally reflects your own feeling on what is ideal (perhaps with a touch of the western idea of meritocracy thrown in that is influencing the use of that word) or whether that is, in fact, what the vedas say. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: In the vedic varnas, the brahmanas are the smartest of all the four groups in society. However, they don't rule the people, nor do the hard work. The brahmans are responsible for the priestly or advisory duties in society. The kshatreyas are in charge of the executive and enforcement work. For busines and mercantile work, the vaishas perform them. The rest of the hard work is given to the sudras. So in this system, everyone benefits for the sake of forming a society or a community. Anyone who doesn't fit in the system becomes a chandala, or the untouchables. Is there upward or downward mobility between the groups during one's lifetime? Can a sudra become a Brahman or a kshatreya become a Brahman? Or can a Brahman who messes his life up end up a sudra by the end of his life? In an ideal varna system, the status in society is earned not inherited by families. Those who have the aptitude for intellectual pursuits and education should be considered as brahmanas. It should not matter whether he or she was born under the other groups in society. Conversely, those who were born into a brahmana family but do not have the aptitude for intellectual work should not be considered as a brahmana in society. Or does this just happen between lifetimes, ie. if you start off at the lower rung -- sudras -- if you do a good job at each level you will get to be braman in four lifetimes? Ideally, if a person is qualified for intellectual work, then he or she should be considered a brahmana. And can you be enlightened as a, say, sudra? Or do you have to wait until you are a Brahman before the opportunity for enlightenment is available to you? A sudra can be enlightened just like anybody else. Enlightenment is independent of your status in life. As MMY states, enlightenment is attainable by anybody. It's a matter of achieving the highest level of consciousness, Unity Consciousness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: by Isaac Asimov What is intelligence, anyway? When I was in the army, I received the kind of aptitude test that all soldiers took and, against a normal of 100, scored 160. No one at the base had ever seen a figure like that, and for two hours they made a big fuss over me. (It didn't mean anything. The next day I was still a buck private with KP - kitchen police - as my highest duty.) All my life I've been registering scores like that, so that I have the complacent feeling that I'm highly intelligent, and I expect other people to think so too. Actually, though, don't such scores simply mean that I am very good at answering the type of academic questions that are considered worthy of answers by people who make up the intelligence tests - people with intellectual bents similar to mine? For instance, I had an auto-repair man once, who, on these intelligence tests, could not possibly have scored more than 80, by my estimate. I always took it for granted that I was far more intelligent than he was. Yet, when anything went wrong with my car I hastened to him with it, watched him anxiously as he explored its vitals, and listened to his pronouncements as though they were divine oracles - and he always fixed my car. Well, then, suppose my auto-repair man devised questions for an intelligence test. Or suppose a carpenter did, or a farmer, or, indeed, almost anyone but an academician. By every one of those tests, I'd prove myself a moron, and I'd be a moron, too. In a world where I could not use my academic training and my verbal talents but had to do something intricate or hard, working with my hands, I would do poorly. My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in and of the fact that a small subsection of that society has managed to foist itself on the rest as an arbiter of such matters. Consider my auto-repair man, again. He had a habit of telling me jokes whenever he saw me. One time he raised his head from under the automobile hood to say: Doc, a deaf-and-mute guy went into a hardware store to ask for some nails. He put two fingers
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism
HOWEVER, both teachers made a clear distinction between that and the entity with which one has this feeling actually TELLING you things. If there is any kind of *information* being conveyed, then the voice is NOT TO BE TRUSTED. I have found this same teaching in quite a few spir- itual traditions, all of whom make this same distinc- tion. If you hear voices, if you have visions in which someone or something is telling you what to do or what to convince others to do, you may be in fairly serious trouble. Interesting point about this particualar commonality in spiritual traditions. I find it too in the old Quaker ways for instance. Quaker meditation from way back was Patanjali-like and they were group meditators, very spiritual and cultivated that way. They clearly discerned the difference between spiritual practice and spiritualism. Completely discounting the troublesome interference of spiritism in spiritual progress. Shaker spirituality from their writings: While Shakers have little sympathy or affiliation with those coarser phenomena characterized as spiritism, seldom visit séances and have held themselves aloof from the spiristic developments of the times, they have watched with full sympathy the unfolding of a purer, higher type of manifestation and recognize with hope and pleasure the gradual evolution of a portion of mankind to whom the world of spirit is a living reality. The Shakers by contrast were a different movement entirely from Quakerism. Shakers started off in the days of their founder as a spiritual (shakti) movement but seg-wayed in to spiritualism in their succession after the founding generation passed on. Following their founder Shaker generation came the turning of the spiritism trick until it even died out in some time. Seems the first half of the 19th century and then parts of the late 19th century again were fascinated with spiritualists. The shakti of spiritual progress would die down with doctrinal religion of the rise in tide by contrast. Shakers died out with the loss of shakti and then after that the loss or turn down of spiritualism phenomena. Shakers late in the 19th Century and through the 20th century became at a loss for much of anything to keep them going, other than the doctrine of how it once was. See the theme by comparison? The American Transcendentalists, as in Ralph Waldo Emerson, a pure spiritual critic, commentated on this in that day too: Animal magnetism, omens, spiritism, mesmerism have great interest for some minds. They run into this twilight and say, There's more than is dreamed of in your philosophy. Certainly these fact are interesting and deserve to be considered. But they are entitled only to a share of attention, and not a large share. It is a low curiosity or lust of structure, and it is separated by celestial diameters from the love of spiritual truths. It is wholly a false view to couple these things in any manner with the religious nature and sentiment, and a most dangerous superstition to raise them to the lofty place of motives and sanctions. This is to prefer halos and rainbows to the sun and moon. These adepts have mistaken flatulency for inspiration. Were this drivel which they report as the voice of spirits really such we must find out a more decisive suicide. The whole world is an omen and a sign. Why look so wistfully in a corner. Man is the image of God. Why run after a ghost or a dream? -Emerson essay, Demonology Is an old teaching evidently. Like Guru Dev's comment. However, is noteable to find Maharaj Tony and Raja Konhaus lately 'pitching' channeling and spiritualism as a direction for re- kindle and salvation for the TMmovement after Maharishi, in distinction to what was a meditator shakti movement. Seemingly becomes now a contest on the road to Damascus to find who 'hears' from Maharishi the clearest, as they are framing it. Who will be the next Saul? While Konhaus confronts anyone, If you don't beleive, then find another guru. Not a lot of shakti in that teaching. Is a lesson in history too. One thing folks mostly have in common here though is that they came as meditators, or are meditaors from that standpoint. That commonality in itself is a lot different than channeling or even belief in Maharishi. These guys are fighting history with their moodmaking and play-acting spiritism. Run! Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF Think of it this way -- you suddenly find yourself dropped into a completely different city. You don't know anyone you meet, or what their intentions are. You don't even know WHERE you are, or where these beings you see come from. And then one of them walks up to you and starts talking to you and telling you things that you should do in your life to make it better, or to make the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: snip However, is noteable to find Maharaj Tony and Raja Konhaus lately 'pitching' channeling and spiritualism as a direction for re-kindle and salvation for the TMmovement after Maharishi, in distinction to what was a meditator shakti movement. Seemingly becomes now a contest on the road to Damascus to find who 'hears' from Maharishi the clearest, as they are framing it. I must have missed this. When and where and how, exactly, have Tony and Konhaus pitched channeling and spiritualism and hearing from Maharishi? Do we know this for a fact? What are some examples?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: You used the word ideally below several times in answering questions. I'm wondering whether ideally reflects your own feeling on what is ideal (perhaps with a touch of the western idea of meritocracy thrown in that is influencing the use of that word) or whether that is, in fact, what the vedas say. I used the word ideal to differentiate the varna system in actual practice in India. As practiced today, the varna system is a devolution of the intent of the vedas. You are right that I am inserting my own interpretation of meritocracy as thought of in the western culture. I believe that the vedas had the same intent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: In the vedic varnas, the brahmanas are the smartest of all the four groups in society. However, they don't rule the people, nor do the hard work. The brahmans are responsible for the priestly or advisory duties in society. The kshatreyas are in charge of the executive and enforcement work. For busines and mercantile work, the vaishas perform them. The rest of the hard work is given to the sudras. So in this system, everyone benefits for the sake of forming a society or a community. Anyone who doesn't fit in the system becomes a chandala, or the untouchables. Is there upward or downward mobility between the groups during one's lifetime? Can a sudra become a Brahman or a kshatreya become a Brahman? Or can a Brahman who messes his life up end up a sudra by the end of his life? In an ideal varna system, the status in society is earned not inherited by families. Those who have the aptitude for intellectual pursuits and education should be considered as brahmanas. It should not matter whether he or she was born under the other groups in society. Conversely, those who were born into a brahmana family but do not have the aptitude for intellectual work should not be considered as a brahmana in society. Or does this just happen between lifetimes, ie. if you start off at the lower rung -- sudras -- if you do a good job at each level you will get to be braman in four lifetimes? Ideally, if a person is qualified for intellectual work, then he or she should be considered a brahmana. And can you be enlightened as a, say, sudra? Or do you have to wait until you are a Brahman before the opportunity for enlightenment is available to you? A sudra can be enlightened just like anybody else. Enlightenment is independent of your status in life. As MMY states, enlightenment is attainable by anybody. It's a matter of achieving the highest level of consciousness, Unity Consciousness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: by Isaac Asimov What is intelligence, anyway? When I was in the army, I received the kind of aptitude test that all soldiers took and, against a normal of 100, scored 160. No one at the base had ever seen a figure like that, and for two hours they made a big fuss over me. (It didn't mean anything. The next day I was still a buck private with KP - kitchen police - as my highest duty.) All my life I've been registering scores like that, so that I have the complacent feeling that I'm highly intelligent, and I expect other people to think so too. Actually, though, don't such scores simply mean that I am very good at answering the type of academic questions that are considered worthy of answers by people who make up the intelligence tests - people with intellectual bents similar to mine? For instance, I had an auto-repair man once, who, on these intelligence tests, could not possibly have scored more than 80, by my estimate. I always took it for granted that I was far more intelligent than he was. Yet, when anything went wrong with my car I hastened to him with it, watched him anxiously as he explored its vitals, and listened to his pronouncements as though they were divine oracles - and he always fixed my car. Well, then, suppose my auto-repair man devised questions for an intelligence test. Or suppose a carpenter did, or a farmer, or, indeed, almost anyone but an academician. By every one of those tests, I'd prove myself a moron, and I'd be a moron, too. In a world where I could not use my academic training and my verbal talents but had to do something intricate or hard,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: In the vedic varnas, the brahmanas are the smartest of all the four groups in society. However, they don't rule the people, nor do the hard work. The brahmans are responsible for the priestly or advisory duties in society. The kshatreyas are in charge of the executive and enforcement work. For busines and mercantile work, the vaishas perform them. The rest of the hard work is given to the sudras. So in this system, everyone benefits for the sake of forming a society or a community. Anyone who doesn't fit in the system becomes a chandala, or the untouchables. You understand that the last sentence above includes you, right? And that nothing you can possibly do can ever change that, right? Systematized elitism and bigotry. It never ceases to astound me that people here defend it because it's in a book they consider The Word Of God. People *really* need to see The Invention Of Lying. It's an interesting take on religion, by an atheist, but one with more heart and compassion in his little toe than many religious people seem to have in their entire bodies. The bit where he presents his ten eternal truths to the people mounted on two pizza boxes like the Ten Commandments is not only hilarious, it's one of the best commentaries on religion ever.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right? Yeah, right, a major major expose. Well, actually it is mighty interesting to see who looks in and comes through FF and FFL. Is also amusing to wonder who some people here think they are writing for here as their audience as they push the `send' button. I agree. It is even more interesting to see the ones who honestly don't care. They *don't care* whether what they say on a regular basis reflects poorly on TM or the TMO, as long as they can score points in their imaginary battles. Can you imagine what a real lurker with real spiritual aspirations must think of the TM TBs here? This forum must have resulted in hundreds of such lurkers vowing never to have anything to do with TM, based on their own assessment of how 30-year meditators turned out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: In the vedic varnas, the brahmanas are the smartest of all the four groups in society. However, they don't rule the people, nor do the hard work. The brahmans are responsible for the priestly or advisory duties in society. The kshatreyas are in charge of the executive and enforcement work. For busines and mercantile work, the vaishas perform them. The rest of the hard work is given to the sudras. So in this system, everyone benefits for the sake of forming a society or a community. Anyone who doesn't fit in the system becomes a chandala, or the untouchables. Is there upward or downward mobility between the groups during one's lifetime? Can a sudra become a Brahman or a kshatreya become a Brahman? Or can a Brahman who messes his life up end up a sudra by the end of his life? In an ideal varna system... Which has never existed. ...the status in society is earned not inherited by families. Those who have the aptitude for intellectual pursuits and education should be considered as brahmanas. It should not matter whether he or she was born under the other groups in society. But it does. In India everyone knows your caste the moment they hear your last name. You are consigned to the position allotted to that caste *no matter what*. It controls your entire life -- how you are treated in restaurants and hotels, who you can marry, where you can work, everything. John's claim above is a fantasy, an ideal that has never once existed in the entire history of the caste system. If John had been born a sudra, he could get 20 Ph.D.s and never be allowed to work in an intel- lectual capacity in India or even in an Indian- owned company in America. I've seen it happen in programming. I worked on a large programming project for Pepsico, one that was staffed largely by an Indian company. The first step of the resume review process was to put all resumes with last names that were not Brahmins straight in the trash bin. I sat in a room and listened to a few of these more evolved Brahmins brag about how they had beat the shit out of an Indian guy of another caste who had dared to ask a Brahmin woman on a date. This was in New York, not Delhi. John is defending barbarism and institutionalized bigotry as if it were holy. Says a lot about his concept of religion.
