[FairfieldLife] My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Ravi Yogi
Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
really appreciate your input and blessings. 


Thank you,

Much Love - Ravi Yogi

Anatomy of the Turqster

Small Penis Disorder

Small Penis Complex (SPC) or Small Penis disorder(SPD) has been defined by Dr. 
Ravi Yogi [1], Psy.D, U.C Berkeley as a personality disorder characterized by a 
pattern of behavior that includes extreme grief, panic triggered by references 
to any spiritual experience that gives the person a huge inferiority complex 
and 
results in the person spending their entire time in various online spiritual 
chat groups trying to harass and hound believers. They try convince the 
believers of their false freedom and happiness that purportedly had arisen from 
their philosophy of no practice or atheistic non-spiritual practices.

Characteristics
People with small penis disorder usually have good verbal and interpersonal 
skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and become 
the center of attention [2]. People with SPC exhibit most or all of the 
following symptoms

1. Predominantly spend their time in spiritual online chat circles.
2. Display extreme sensitivity to any spiritual experiences or altered 
states 
of consciousness achieved through meditation, yoga.
3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative or one-sided 
portrayals of 
religion.
4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw by stopping to 
respond 
and adopting a holier-than-thou attitude.
5. Strong dislike of authority and morals, and react by accusations of 
fear and 
retribution on people who display humility and respect of authority and morals.
6. Demand scientific proof of mystical experiences and berate 
subjective 
experiences while having no qualms about using their subjective experiences in 
other matters.
7. Constantly remind everyone of their projected freedom and happiness 
achieved 
through no practice practice which could include references to atheism, 
Neo-Advaita and Neo-Buddhist practices.
8. Exhibitionist behavior and a need to be the center of attention.

Causes
The cause of this disorder is known to be caused by involvement in religious 
cults [3]. The scars and trauma of being manipulated, rejected and isolated in 
cults is known to be affect some to develop full blown symptoms of Small Penis 
Disorder [4].

Dr. Ravi Yogi has identified by the following maladaptive schemas using Dr. 
Jeffrey Young's schema theory [5] with SPC - DEFECTIVENESS / SHAME  (DS), 
SOCIAL 
ISOLATION / ALIENATION   (SI), FAILURE  (FA) and/or ABANDONMENT / 
 INSTABILITY   (AB).

Diagnosis
The person's behavior, history, involvement in spiritual circles especially 
their behavior of haranguing believers along with a psychological evaluation, 
are usually sufficient to establish the diagnosis. Treatment is often prompted 
by depression associated with dissolved cult relationships and/or by family and 
friends who notice their overbearing harassing behavior on spiritual online 
portals.

Treatment
Because of the lack of research support for work on personality disorders and 
long-term treatment with psychotherapy, the empirical findings on the treatment 
of these disorders remain based on the case report method and not on clinical 
trials.

Dr. Ravi Yogi, the pioneer in SPC recommends the following.

* Schema Therapy
* Cognitive behavioral therapy
* Dr. Ravi Yogi's TTWFAR Therapy (TTWFAR - Taking the world for a ride™)

References
1. Dr. Ravi Yogi (formerly Ravi Chivukula), Psy.D, U.C Berkeley is one 
of the 
leading researchers of SPC and is lobbying to include SPC in DSM V - Diagnostic 
and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) the fifth edition.
2. See Histrionic Personality Disorder
3. Frederick Lenz, former Cult leader on Amazon
4. Seekers, Gurus, SPC and the rise of Skeptic Gurus by Dr. Ravi Yogi, 
Psy.D, 
U.C Berkeley
5. Schema Therapy


[FairfieldLife] Re: Congresswoman shot in Arizona

2011-01-10 Thread cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:

 As I worship Pall, from the heart of my bottom.

For speakers of a Uralic (Fenno-Ugric) -- rather awkward -- 
language, Hungarians are surprisingly gifted.

 Perhaps Tom *doesn't* have Hungarian ancestry, but we think Pall
is a fairly common family name in Hungary... :-)



 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@ wrote:
  
   I have no idea what motivates Vaj or Barry.  I could never grok what
   motivates them.  I only worship the very quicksand upon which they tread.
  
  
  Haha, very funny ! :-)
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti-Immigrant Backlash -- the biggest problem of our time

2011-01-10 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Jan 9, 2011, at 12:14 PM, sparaig wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  [...]
   Many hospitals near the southern border of the US have been driven out of 
   business by the huge influx of illegals, seeking free care.
   
  
  Do you have a citation for that, Vaj?
 
 
 I believe I first heard of it on 60 Minutes or some similar news magazine. 
 But here's a quick grab off the web:
 
 As detailed in Illegal aliens threaten U.S. medical system between 1993 and 
 2003, 60 California hospitals closed because half their services were unpaid. 
 Another 24 California hospitals are on the verge of closure. Both PA and NJ 
 hospitals recently reported that they provided almost $2 billion in free 
 emergency and short term care services, in large part to illegal aliens. 
 Minnesota county commissioners say that the cost of medical care for 
 uninsured immigrants is too high for local governments to bear and they 
 expect a $4.2 billion budget shortfall over the next two years. NC has about 
 $1.4 billion in un-reimbursed hospital expenses annually. The Texas Hospital 
 Association directly spent $393 million treating illegal aliens in 2002. One 
 third of the patients treated by the LA County Health System are illegal 
 aliens and the system is facing a $300 million deficient. In AZ, the 
 Southeast Arizona Medical Center had a $1 billion shortfall and recently 
 filled for bankruptcy.


Hmmm... WorldNetDaily...

Do you have a backup reference, please?


Lawson




[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti-Immigrant Backlash -- the biggest problem of our time

2011-01-10 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Jan 9, 2011, at 12:14 PM, sparaig wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  [...]
   Many hospitals near the southern border of the US have been driven out of 
   business by the huge influx of illegals, seeking free care.
   
  
  Do you have a citation for that, Vaj?
 
 
 I believe I first heard of it on 60 Minutes or some similar news magazine. 
 But here's a quick grab off the web:
 
 As detailed in Illegal aliens threaten U.S. medical system between 1993 and 
 2003, 60 California hospitals closed because half their services were unpaid. 
 Another 24 California hospitals are on the verge of closure. Both PA and NJ 
 hospitals recently reported that they provided almost $2 billion in free 
 emergency and short term care services, in large part to illegal aliens. 
 Minnesota county commissioners say that the cost of medical care for 
 uninsured immigrants is too high for local governments to bear and they 
 expect a $4.2 billion budget shortfall over the next two years. NC has about 
 $1.4 billion in un-reimbursed hospital expenses annually. The Texas Hospital 
 Association directly spent $393 million treating illegal aliens in 2002. One 
 third of the patients treated by the LA County Health System are illegal 
 aliens and the system is facing a $300 million deficient. In AZ, the 
 Southeast Arizona Medical Center had a $1 billion shortfall and recently 
 filled for bankruptcy.


Hmmm... WorldNetDaily...

Do you have a backup reference, please?


Lawson




[FairfieldLife] Crazy Talk

2011-01-10 Thread TurquoiseB
An article by Vaughan Bell, reposted from Slate because it's about
bloody time somebody said this. Oh...he did it because he's crazy is
IMO just a way of saying I'm too lazy to think past the first
convenient box I found with which to pigeonhole him. Emphasis (bolding)
is mine.
We're too quick to use mental illness as an explanation for
violence.Shortly after Jared Lee Loughner had been identified as the
alleged shooter
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-08/jared-lee-lou\
ghner-details-on-gabrielle-giffords-alleged-shooter/  of Arizona Rep.
Gabrielle Giffords, online sleuths turned up pages of rambling text and
videos http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4  he
had created. A wave of amateur diagnoses soon followed, most of which
concluded that Loughner was not so much a political extremist
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6198004/jared_lee_loughners_st\
range_youtube.html?cat=9  as a man suffering from paranoid
schizophrenia
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/tploomis/jared-lee-loughner-gabrie\
lle-giffords-shooter_n_806243_73192186.html .
For  many, the investigation will stop there. No need to explore
personal  motives, out-of-control grievances or distorted political
anger. The  mere mention of mental illness is explanation enough. This 
presumed link between psychiatric disorders and violence has become so 
entrenched in the public consciousness that the entire weight of the 
medical evidence is unable to shift it. Severe mental illness, on its 
own, is not an explanation for violence, but don't expect to hear that 
from the media in the coming weeks.

Seena Fazel is an Oxford  University psychiatrist who has led the most
extensive scientific  studies to date of the links between violence and
two of the most  serious psychiatric diagnoses—schizophrenia and
bipolar disorder, either  of which can lead to delusions,
hallucinations, or some other loss of  contact with reality. Rather than
looking at individual cases, or even  single studies, Fazel's team
analyzed all the scientific findings they  could find. As a result, they
can say with confidence that psychiatric  diagnoses tell us next to
nothing about someone's propensity or motive  for violence.

A 2009 analysis
http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.10001\
20   of nearly 20,000 individuals concluded that increased risk of
violence  was associated with drug and alcohol problems, regardless of
whether the  person had schizophrenia. Two similar
http://dx.doi.org/10.1001/archgenpsychiatry.2010.97  analyses
http://dx.doi.org/10.1001/archgenpsychiatry.2010.171   on bipolar
patients showed, along similar lines, that the risk of  violent crime is
fractionally increased by the illness, while it goes up  substantially
among those who are dependent on intoxicating substances.  In other
words, it's likely that some of the people in your local bar  are at
greater risk of committing murder than your average person with  mental
illness.
Advertisement

Of  course, like the rest of the population, some people with mental 
illness do become violent, and some may be riskier when they're 
experiencing delusions and hallucinations. But these infrequent cases do
not make schizophrenia or bipolar a helpful general-purpose 
explanation for criminal behavior. If that doesn't make sense to you, 
here's an analogy: Soccer hooligans are much more likely to be violent 
when they attend a match, but if you tell me that your friend has gone 
to a soccer match, I'll know nothing about how violent a person he is. 
Similarly, if you tell me your friend punched someone, the fact that he 
goes to soccer matches tells me nothing about what caused the 
confrontation. This puts recent speculation about the Arizona suspect in
a distinctly different light: If you found evidence on the Web that 
Jared Lee Loughner or some other suspected killer was obsessed with 
soccer or football or hockey and suggested it might be an explanation 
for his crime, you'd be laughed at. But do the same with schizophrenia
and people nod in solemn agreement. This is despite the fact that your 
chance of being murdered by a stranger with schizophrenia is so 
vanishingly small that a recent study
http://dx.doi.org/10.1093/schbul/sbp112  of four Western countries put
the figure at one in 14.3 million. To put it in perspective, statistics
http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/medical.htm  show you are about
three times more likely to be killed by a lightning strike.

The  fact that mental illness is so often used to explain violent acts 
despite the evidence to the contrary almost certainly flows from how 
such cases are handled in the media. Numerous studies
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16424966   show that crimes by
people with psychiatric problems are over-reported,  usually with gross
inaccuracies that give a false impression of risk.  With this constant
misrepresentation, it's not surprising that the  public sees mental
illness 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shooter described as Left-Wing Pothead.

2011-01-10 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   BillyG, you are so utterly useless. There's better 
   evidence that Loughner is a right-wing crackpot than
   that he's a left-wing crackpot.
  
  Since you admit he's a crackpot, what difference does
  it make? NONE!
 
 I don't admit that he's a crackpot, I *assert* that
 he's a crackpot (and have done so almost from the
 beginning).
 
 And I assert that you're worse than useless, you're
 thoroughly dishonest, for quoting the first paragraph
 of my post but not the next two:
 
 But for a person who is clinically mentally ill,
 which very much appears to be the case with Loughner,
 partisan politics is basically irrelevant.
 
 In any case, his classmate knew him back in 2007.
 People change--especially crazy people. What we know
 of him since then, from his YouTube text-videos and
 his MySpace and Facebook pages, is that his thinking
 was too incoherent to represent any particular
 political position.
 
 In other words: *I* was the one pointing out that it
 made no difference--as I have almost from the beginning--
 in response to *your* chortling over having found a
 classmate of Loughner's from three years ago who thought
 he was a lefty.
 
 Now that you find there's evidence he was a righty, all
 of a sudden it's you who's demanding to know what
 difference it makes.
 
 God doesn't like hypocrites or liars, BillyG. And you're
 both.

Don't get your panties in a bunch, go meditate! :-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Crazy Talk

2011-01-10 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoi...@... wrote:

 An article by Vaughan Bell, reposted from Slate because it's about
 bloody time somebody said this. Oh...he did it because he's crazy is
 IMO just a way of saying I'm too lazy to think past the first
 convenient box I found with which to pigeonhole him. Emphasis (bolding)
 is mine.
 We're too quick to use mental illness as an explanation for
 violence.Shortly after Jared Lee Loughner had been identified as the
 alleged shooter
 http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-08/jared-lee-lou\
 ghner-details-on-gabrielle-giffords-alleged-shooter/  of Arizona Rep.
 Gabrielle Giffords, online sleuths turned up pages of rambling text and
 videos http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4  he
 had created. A wave of amateur diagnoses soon followed, most of which
 concluded that Loughner was not so much a political extremist
 http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6198004/jared_lee_loughners_st\
 range_youtube.html?cat=9  as a man suffering from paranoid
 schizophrenia
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/tploomis/jared-lee-loughner-gabrie\
 lle-giffords-shooter_n_806243_73192186.html .
 For  many, the investigation will stop there. No need to explore
 personal  motives, out-of-control grievances or distorted political
 anger. The  mere mention of mental illness is explanation enough. This 
 presumed link between psychiatric disorders and violence has become so 
 entrenched in the public consciousness that the entire weight of the 
 medical evidence is unable to shift it. Severe mental illness, on its 
 own, is not an explanation for violence, but don't expect to hear that 
 from the media in the coming weeks.
 
 Seena Fazel is an Oxford  University psychiatrist who has led the most
 extensive scientific  studies to date of the links between violence and
 two of the most  serious psychiatric diagnoses—schizophrenia and
 bipolar disorder, either  of which can lead to delusions,
 hallucinations, or some other loss of  contact with reality. Rather than
 looking at individual cases, or even  single studies, Fazel's team
 analyzed all the scientific findings they  could find. As a result, they
 can say with confidence that psychiatric  diagnoses tell us next to
 nothing about someone's propensity or motive  for violence.
 
 A 2009 analysis
 http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.10001\
 20   of nearly 20,000 individuals concluded that increased risk of
 violence  was associated with drug and alcohol problems, regardless of
 whether the  person had schizophrenia. Two similar
 http://dx.doi.org/10.1001/archgenpsychiatry.2010.97  analyses
 http://dx.doi.org/10.1001/archgenpsychiatry.2010.171   on bipolar
 patients showed, along similar lines, that the risk of  violent crime is
 fractionally increased by the illness, while it goes up  substantially
 among those who are dependent on intoxicating substances.  In other
 words, it's likely that some of the people in your local bar  are at
 greater risk of committing murder than your average person with  mental
 illness.
 Advertisement
 
 Of  course, like the rest of the population, some people with mental 
 illness do become violent, and some may be riskier when they're 
 experiencing delusions and hallucinations. But these infrequent cases do
 not make schizophrenia or bipolar a helpful general-purpose 
 explanation for criminal behavior. If that doesn't make sense to you, 
 here's an analogy: Soccer hooligans are much more likely to be violent 
 when they attend a match, but if you tell me that your friend has gone 
 to a soccer match, I'll know nothing about how violent a person he is. 
 Similarly, if you tell me your friend punched someone, the fact that he 
 goes to soccer matches tells me nothing about what caused the 
 confrontation. This puts recent speculation about the Arizona suspect in
 a distinctly different light: If you found evidence on the Web that 
 Jared Lee Loughner or some other suspected killer was obsessed with 
 soccer or football or hockey and suggested it might be an explanation 
 for his crime, you'd be laughed at. But do the same with schizophrenia
 and people nod in solemn agreement. This is despite the fact that your 
 chance of being murdered by a stranger with schizophrenia is so 
 vanishingly small that a recent study
 http://dx.doi.org/10.1093/schbul/sbp112  of four Western countries put
 the figure at one in 14.3 million. To put it in perspective, statistics
 http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/medical.htm  show you are about
 three times more likely to be killed by a lightning strike.
 
 The  fact that mental illness is so often used to explain violent acts 
 despite the evidence to the contrary almost certainly flows from how 
 such cases are handled in the media. Numerous studies
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16424966   show that crimes by
 people with psychiatric problems are over-reported,  usually 

[FairfieldLife] Re: This one is for Turqster

2011-01-10 Thread wgm4u

Turq's problem is he believes that since a trail guide map (for 
instance,i.e.Religion) is man made, it is unreliable, which is really a 
no-brainer as the only way to prove if the map is accurate is to walk the path 
yourself.

You don't dismiss all the experiences of the past (past trail guide maps) 
because they themselves are subject to errors! Only a moron would believe 
everything and everybody at face value but perhaps that is what Turq did when 
he became a Siddha (or a TM'er)?

It's called throwing out the baby with the bath water!

Turq, there can be no *proof* of God other than your OWN experience! If you 
wish to reinvent the wheel and forgo all the experiences and teachings of the 
past that is your choice, though I would submit not a very good one!

Everything is taken on Faith until it becomes your own direct experience, even 
simple directions to the post office! Roll up your sleeves you have to walk the 
path yourself, there is no such thing as an infallible Religion until you 
yourself KNOW it to be so!

Correct me if I'm wrong


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raviyogi2009 no_re...@... wrote:

 
 God is not an argument, it is a fulfillment, a feeling of fulfillment.
 You may have observed that whenever you are discontent, you want to deny
 God. Whenever you are dissatisfied, your whole being wants to say: There
 is no God. Atheism is not out of logic, it is out of discontent. You may
 rationalize it -- that's another thing. You may not say you are an
 atheist because you are discontent. You may say: There is no God and I
 have got proofs. But that is not the true thing.
 
 
 
 If you are satisfied, suddenly your whole being says: THERE is god.
 Suddenly you feel it! The whole existence becomes divine. If love is
 there you will be really for the first time in the feeling that
 existence is divine and everything is a blessing. But much has to be
 done before this can happen. Much has to be destroyed before this can
 happen. You have to destroy all that creates barriers in you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote:
 
 
  Did I say I meant 'real' religion? (Not that you believe there is such
 a thing).
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote:
  
   In response to his persistent message that the world would be better
 off
   if we all were just more religious. Proud of the company you keep,
   Billy?
   Westboro Baptist Church To Picket Funerals Of Arizona Shooting
 Victims
  
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/09/westboro-baptist-church-arizon\
 \
   a_n_806319.html Westboro Baptist Church, the Topeka church known
 for
   its inflammatory  anti-gay protests, plans to picket the funerals of
 the
   six people gunned down in Arizona
  
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-shot-c_n_80\
 \
   6211.html  on Saturday.
   In a flier posted on its web site, the controversial church writes,
   THANK GOD FOR THE SHOOTER -- 6 DEAD! The message continues:
   God appointed this rod for your sins!  God sent the shooter!  This
   hateful nation unleashed violent veterans on the servants of God  at
   WBC--hoping to silence our kind warning to obey God and flee the 
 wrath
   to come.
   The flier claims that the shooting of both a House member and a
 federal
   judge -- the latter of whom was killed
  
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/judge-john-roll-dead-killed_n_\
 \
   806239.html  -- is god's punishment for judicial and Congressional
   action against the WBC. God  sent  the shooter to shoot you!  And
 He's
   sitting in Heaven laughing at you! the announcement reads.
  
   In graphic language, it continues:
   Your federal judge is dead and your  (fag-promoting,  baby-killing,
   proud-sinner) Congresswoman fights for her life.  God is  avenging
   Himself on this rebellious house! WBC prays for your
 destruction--more
   shooters, more dead carcasses piling up, young, old, leader and
   commoner--all.  Your doom is upon you!
   In December, Westboro Baptist Church picketed the funeral
  
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/09/elizabeth-edwards-funeral-west\
 \
   boro-baptist-church_n_794333.html  of Elizabeth Edwards. The group
 is
   known to display signs that say God Hates Fags and Thank God For
 Dead
   Soldiers.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread wgm4u
Turq_Please don't submit the size of your penis! :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviy...@... wrote:

 Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
 really appreciate your input and blessings. 
 
 
 Thank you,
 
 Much Love - Ravi Yogi
 
 Anatomy of the Turqster
 
 Small Penis Disorder
 
 Small Penis Complex (SPC) or Small Penis disorder(SPD) has been defined by 
 Dr. 
 Ravi Yogi [1], Psy.D, U.C Berkeley as a personality disorder characterized by 
 a 
 pattern of behavior that includes extreme grief, panic triggered by 
 references 
 to any spiritual experience that gives the person a huge inferiority complex 
 and 
 results in the person spending their entire time in various online spiritual 
 chat groups trying to harass and hound believers. They try convince the 
 believers of their false freedom and happiness that purportedly had arisen 
 from 
 their philosophy of no practice or atheistic non-spiritual practices.
 
 Characteristics
 People with small penis disorder usually have good verbal and interpersonal 
 skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and 
 become 
 the center of attention [2]. People with SPC exhibit most or all of the 
 following symptoms
 
   1. Predominantly spend their time in spiritual online chat circles.
   2. Display extreme sensitivity to any spiritual experiences or altered 
 states 
 of consciousness achieved through meditation, yoga.
   3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative or one-sided 
 portrayals of 
 religion.
   4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw by stopping to 
 respond 
 and adopting a holier-than-thou attitude.
   5. Strong dislike of authority and morals, and react by accusations of 
 fear and 
 retribution on people who display humility and respect of authority and 
 morals.
   6. Demand scientific proof of mystical experiences and berate 
 subjective 
 experiences while having no qualms about using their subjective experiences 
 in 
 other matters.
   7. Constantly remind everyone of their projected freedom and happiness 
 achieved 
 through no practice practice which could include references to atheism, 
 Neo-Advaita and Neo-Buddhist practices.
   8. Exhibitionist behavior and a need to be the center of attention.
 
 Causes
 The cause of this disorder is known to be caused by involvement in religious 
 cults [3]. The scars and trauma of being manipulated, rejected and isolated 
 in 
 cults is known to be affect some to develop full blown symptoms of Small 
 Penis 
 Disorder [4].
 
 Dr. Ravi Yogi has identified by the following maladaptive schemas using Dr. 
 Jeffrey Young's schema theory [5] with SPC - DEFECTIVENESS / SHAME  (DS), 
 SOCIAL 
 ISOLATION / ALIENATION   (SI), FAILURE  (FA) and/or ABANDONMENT / 
  INSTABILITY   (AB).
 
 Diagnosis
 The person's behavior, history, involvement in spiritual circles especially 
 their behavior of haranguing believers along with a psychological evaluation, 
 are usually sufficient to establish the diagnosis. Treatment is often 
 prompted 
 by depression associated with dissolved cult relationships and/or by family 
 and 
 friends who notice their overbearing harassing behavior on spiritual online 
 portals.
 
 Treatment
 Because of the lack of research support for work on personality disorders and 
 long-term treatment with psychotherapy, the empirical findings on the 
 treatment 
 of these disorders remain based on the case report method and not on clinical 
 trials.
 
 Dr. Ravi Yogi, the pioneer in SPC recommends the following.
 
   * Schema Therapy
   * Cognitive behavioral therapy
   * Dr. Ravi Yogi's TTWFAR Therapy (TTWFAR - Taking the world for a 
 ride™)
 
 References
   1. Dr. Ravi Yogi (formerly Ravi Chivukula), Psy.D, U.C Berkeley is one 
 of the 
 leading researchers of SPC and is lobbying to include SPC in DSM V - 
 Diagnostic 
 and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) the fifth edition.
   2. See Histrionic Personality Disorder
   3. Frederick Lenz, former Cult leader on Amazon
   4. Seekers, Gurus, SPC and the rise of Skeptic Gurus by Dr. Ravi Yogi, 
 Psy.D, 
 U.C Berkeley
   5. Schema Therapy





[FairfieldLife] Fighting Spiritual Malaise

2011-01-10 Thread Buck
Touring:

...enlightenment is possible. Not only is it possible. It can definitely be 
attained in this lifetime. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Fighting Spiritual Malaise

2011-01-10 Thread Buck



 Touring:
 
 ...enlightenment is possible. Not only is it possible. It can definitely be 
 attained in this lifetime.


*If you've been on the spiritual path for many years and haven't experienced 
what you expected, don't be discouraged. You can, and will, experience 
enlightenment.*



[FairfieldLife] Re: Fighting Spiritual Malaise

2011-01-10 Thread Buck



 
 
 
  Touring:
  
  ...enlightenment is possible. Not only is it possible. It can definitely 
  be attained in this lifetime.
 
 
 *If you've been on the spiritual path for many years and haven't experienced 
 what you expected, don't be discouraged. You can, and will, experience 
 enlightenment.*


*If you were disappointed by teachers that you felt didn't have integrity, or 
if you got turned off by the politics of spiritual organizations, don't be 
dismayed.*



[FairfieldLife] Re: Fighting Spiritual Malaise

2011-01-10 Thread Buck


 
 
 
  
  
  
   Touring:
   
   ...enlightenment is possible. Not only is it possible. It can definitely 
   be attained in this lifetime.
  
  
  *If you've been on the spiritual path for many years and haven't 
  experienced what you expected, don't be discouraged. You can, and will, 
  experience enlightenment.*
 
 
 *If you were disappointed by teachers that you felt didn't have integrity, or 
 if you got turned off by the politics of spiritual organizations, don't be 
 dismayed.*


*If you've been meditating for years, but wonder why you haven't experienced 
what the guru's described in the books that inspired you in your youth, don't 
blame yourself.*



[FairfieldLife] Re: Fighting Spiritual Malaise

2011-01-10 Thread Buck



 
 
  
  
  
   
   
   
Touring:

...enlightenment is possible. Not only is it possible. It can 
definitely be attained in this lifetime.
   
   
   *If you've been on the spiritual path for many years and haven't 
   experienced what you expected, don't be discouraged. You can, and will, 
   experience enlightenment.*
  
  
  *If you were disappointed by teachers that you felt didn't have integrity, 
  or if you got turned off by the politics of spiritual organizations, don't 
  be dismayed.*
 
 
 *If you've been meditating for years, but wonder why you haven't experienced 
 what the guru's described in the books that inspired you in your youth, don't 
 blame yourself.*


*If you lost hope and got diverted along the way, please don't settle for 
anything less than what you know in your heart is your true purpose in life.*





[FairfieldLife] Re: Fighting Spiritual Malaise

2011-01-10 Thread Buck



 
 
 
  
  
   
   
   



 Touring:
 
 ...enlightenment is possible. Not only is it possible. It can 
 definitely be attained in this lifetime.


*If you've been on the spiritual path for many years and haven't 
experienced what you expected, don't be discouraged. You can, and will, 
experience enlightenment.*
   
   
   *If you were disappointed by teachers that you felt didn't have 
   integrity, or if you got turned off by the politics of spiritual 
   organizations, don't be dismayed.*
  
  
  *If you've been meditating for years, but wonder why you haven't 
  experienced what the guru's described in the books that inspired you in 
  your youth, don't blame yourself.*
 
 
 *If you lost hope and got diverted along the way, please don't settle for 
 anything less than what you know in your heart is your true purpose in life.*


*As all the saints and sages throughout the ages have said, Human life is 
precious. Don't waste it.* 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Fighting Spiritual Malaise

2011-01-10 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 
 
 
  
  
  
   
   



 
 
 
  Touring:
  
  ...enlightenment is possible. Not only is it possible. It can 
  definitely be attained in this lifetime.
 
 
 *If you've been on the spiritual path for many years and haven't 
 experienced what you expected, don't be discouraged. You can, and 
 will, experience enlightenment.*


*If you were disappointed by teachers that you felt didn't have 
integrity, or if you got turned off by the politics of spiritual 
organizations, don't be dismayed.*
   
   
   *If you've been meditating for years, but wonder why you haven't 
   experienced what the guru's described in the books that inspired you in 
   your youth, don't blame yourself.*
  
  
  *If you lost hope and got diverted along the way, please don't settle for 
  anything less than what you know in your heart is your true purpose in 
  life.*
 
 
 *As all the saints and sages throughout the ages have said, Human life is 
 precious. Don't waste it.*


Burma Shave



[FairfieldLife] Re: Fighting Spiritual Malaise

2011-01-10 Thread Buck


 
  
  
  
   
   
   


 
 
 
  
  
  
   Touring:
   
   ...enlightenment is possible. Not only is it possible. It can 
   definitely be attained in this lifetime.
  
  
  *If you've been on the spiritual path for many years and haven't 
  experienced what you expected, don't be discouraged. You can, and 
  will, experience enlightenment.*
 
 
 *If you were disappointed by teachers that you felt didn't have 
 integrity, or if you got turned off by the politics of spiritual 
 organizations, don't be dismayed.*


*If you've been meditating for years, but wonder why you haven't 
experienced what the guru's described in the books that inspired you in 
your youth, don't blame yourself.*
   
   
   *If you lost hope and got diverted along the way, please don't settle for 
   anything less than what you know in your heart is your true purpose in 
   life.*
  
  
  *As all the saints and sages throughout the ages have said, Human life is 
  precious. Don't waste it.*
 
 
 Burma Shave


Personally, I think the guy is being too *nice*.
Rather, it now would be time to say, *Get some
fucking discipline and sit up.  In a busy
world it will take you some will-power and concentration.
Git going.  Shake off that *faint-heartedness*,
come to meditation.*
-Buck



[FairfieldLife] Obsessive love affair with guns

2011-01-10 Thread raunchydog
In a middle-aged person's lifetime we Democrats have managed to
see,  just to point out a few things, two Kennedy Brothers and Martin
Luther  King, Jr. assassinated, the murders of several physicians who
performed  abortions, and now this.  A little fact that makes it rather 
understandable some of us have a problem, not with the Second Amendment 
as written, but rather the unhealthy obsessive love affair too many 
people have with it.  It's a legal document, not your 
mother/binky/savior/God/manhood.
Michael Moore
http://www.americablog.com/2011/01/michael-moore-on-sarah-palin-and.htm\
l  made a trenchant point about this seeming fetish with
bullet fashion that applies to its most notable current
adherent Sarah Palin
http://my.firedoglake.com/jimwhite/2011/01/08/rep-gabrielle-giffords-in\
-march-interview-with-msnbc-re-palins-targeting/ :

  [aligncenter size-medium wp-image-125105] 
http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/10/forgive-me-my-delicate-sensibilities/\
moore/

I think it would be safe to say we'd also immediately see irrational
blog posts and tweets from many on the right with overblown responses 
favoring crushing every available Constitutional right and 
privilege…except the Second Amendment, of course.

So I guess it would be another day ending in Y.



http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/10/forgive-me-my-delicate-sensibilities/
http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/10/forgive-me-my-delicate-sensibilities/\


In the comments:


The disease of the neo-cons and their enablers sickens the nation.  I 
was in the 6th grade when Kennedy was assassinated.  I've witnessed
too  much of this senseless violence for the sake of political
expediency.

I've seen many posts online lately complaining about how the 
government gets the new, better weapons while the citizens have 
antiquated ones not capable of overthrowing the government.  Is this 
what we want?  Is this what America has become?  Are we now a nation of 
vigilantes living out fantasies of how life might have been 150 years 
ago when the Civil War ended and (mostly) Confederate soldiers headed 
out west with their weapons, becoming the gunslingers of the late 19th 
century?  Have we become a nation of Lee Harvey Oswalds?

I'm disgusted with our media, our politicians and our unequal, 
extremely partial judicial system where money and race equal justice.  
I'm ashamed I live in a nation that coddles – even glorifies
–  torturers.  And I'm tired of listening to incessant talking
heads  offering lies as truth, hatred as freedom and war as peace.

The billionaires paying for this are beyond contempt.  The Koch 
brothers.  The Bush family.  The Murdochs.  The Rockefellers.  The 
European and American bankers whose policies of personal enrichment 
corrupt our banking institutions.  And all of the rest of the moneyed 
caste who've wrecked this nation and manipulate its citizens daily
to  act out against their own government and against their own
interests.   These obscenely wealthy rats paid handsomely for this
malevolence – more  money than it would take to build a society that
would be the envy of  the world in all respects.  And all they've
brought us is war,  destitution, abuse of power, fraud and corruption.

Those people need to be brought to account for what they've done.  
But our courts are led by the same sorts of men lacking in character as 
those others who are misleading the nation.  Roberts?  Alito?  Thomas?  
Kennedy? Scalia?  They have no honor and no integrity.  The same can be 
said for our well-paid pundit class of habitual liars and professional 
propagandists.  Each and every one of them is every bit as responsible 
for what happened in Tucson as the assassin himself.  Each and every one
of them had their hands on the stock and their finger squeezing the 
trigger as good, honest, hardworking people fell silent on the ground.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread Vaj


On Jan 8, 2011, at 2:41 PM, seventhray1 wrote:

The thing about effortlessness, to me is like the same about gold.   
Is pure gold, pure?  No, it is only 99.999% pure.  Is TM completely  
effortless ?   No, but why quibble about the amount of effort to  
introduce or come back to the mantra.  Maybe it's only 90%  
effortless.  I'll give it a pass on that basis.  Is this really an  
area of contention?



The primary reason is that in Indian (and Buddhist or Jain)  
meditation systems, Patanjali for example, explains that effort is  
necessary in a dualistic system. ANY system of meditation that relies  
on objects or props (alambanas) will, ipso facto, require some  
effort. The more balanced and innocent the effort, the better the  
technique. Effortless meditation, in eastern metaphysics, refers to  
either the higher end of prop-based meditation practice where the  
intent to enter absorption is all that is necessary (for hours of  
effortless deep meditation) OR, more importantly, it refers to  
nondual meditation.


It's the naive confusion of the style of non-meditation  in nondual  
mediation practice, like used in Advaita Vedanta or Dzogchen that  
should be a warning sign to any careful listener. It's a sure way to  
tell if the person is a programmed parrot or not.


In the west such nuances are easily glossed over. But in the east, in  
front of a knowledgeable pundit, you wouldn't fare as well.


It it has alambanas, it has effort. Period.

Otherwise you'd have to deny that TM relies on the support of mantras  
and the memory to return to the mantra when transcending stops and  
engagement with thinking starts again.


Alambana
n. depending on or resting upon ; hanging from Pa1n2. ; supporting ,  
sustaining Megh. ; foundation , base Prab. Kat2hUp. ; reason ,  
cause ; (in rhetoric) the natural and necessary connection of a  
sensation with the cause which excites it Sa1h. ; the mental exercise  
practised by the Yogin in endeavouring to realize the gross form of  
the Eternal VP. ; silent repetition of a prayer [W.] ; (with  
Buddhists) the five attributes of things (apprehended by or connected  
with the five senses , viz. form , sound , smell , taste , and  
touch ; also %{dharma} or law belonging to %{manas}).

[FairfieldLife] Re: This one is for Turqster

2011-01-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wg...@... wrote:

 Turq's problem is he believes that since a trail guide map 
 (for instance,i.e.Religion) is man made, it is unreliable, 
 which is really a no-brainer as the only way to prove if 
 the map is accurate is to walk the path yourself.
 
 You don't dismiss all the experiences of the past (past 
 trail guide maps) because they themselves are subject to 
 errors! Only a moron would believe everything and everybody 
 at face value but perhaps that is what Turq did when he 
 became a Siddha (or a TM'er)?

Billy, since you admit above that all paths (trail
guides) are prone to errors, doesn't it follow that
only a moron would consider any of them infallible
and worth following as if they were gospel or Truth?

 It's called throwing out the baby with the bath water!
 
 Turq, there can be no *proof* of God other than your 
 OWN experience! 

Billy, this is why we can never agree. Subjective
experience is NOT proof. It's only subjective
experience. That may be enough to convince *you*
of God's existence, but that's the only person on
the planet you can ever convince using your subjec-
tive experience as an argument. 

I'm NOT denying the value of making one's own
judgments based on one's own subjective experiences.
I do that, too. I just don't call it proof, because
it isn't and never will be.

For example, I've seen siddhis performed that other
people here only talk about, and have never experienced
personally. That doesn't mean that they existed, or
prove anything about their existence; it's only an 
assertion on my part that I experienced them. Unlike
you, I am content to *leave it* at that assertion;
I seek to prove nothing to anyone. That's what 
people who are selling something do; I am selling
nothing.

 If you wish to reinvent the wheel and forgo all the 
 experiences and teachings of the past that is your 
 choice, though I would submit not a very good one!

It's also something I have never said. You made it
up and attributed it to me. I follow lots of advice
from past teachings; I just don't hold any of them
to be infallible or Truth. The ones I still follow
worked out for me, that's all. If they stop working
for me, I'll drop them in an instant and never
think about them again. I owe none of these teach-
ings or suggestions any allegiance just because
they worked for me for a while, at one stage of
my spiritual development. 

 Everything is taken on Faith until it becomes your 
 own direct experience, even simple directions to the 
 post office! 

Everything in the spiritual realm is taken on faith 
even after you have validated it to your satisfaction
via direct experience. Your experience with non-
verifiable phenomena proves nothing, *except to you*. 
Someday you may understand this.
 
 Roll up your sleeves you have to walk the path yourself, 
 there is no such thing as an infallible Religion until 
 you yourself KNOW it to be so!

Billy, you always get carried away and write too much
when you should have stopped when you had a winner.
In this case, you should have stopped with ...there
is no such thing as an infallible religion.  :-)

 Correct me if I'm wrong

I did.

Billy, I'm NOT challenging your personal experience 
or declaring it wrong. I'm just trying to remind
you what it is -- a completely unverifiable subjective
experience. That is all it is, and all it will remain.
No experience you ever have of a phenomenon that can't
be objectively verified will allow you to claim that 
you KNOW something. That's just hubris, narcissism, 
and self-importance IMO.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Naked Passion

2011-01-10 Thread Buck


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoi...@... wrote:

 In a flashback to Spain, 

Dear Turqb, Rory had some excel spiritual instruction the other day here on 
dealing with obstacles like this in the pain-body.  We know you don't get along 
with Rory and you've said you don't read a number of us anymore here, but 
Rory's comment from experience was quite good about this kind of affliction of 
yours in the subtle body.  It was a pearl of wisdom.  The thing of your not 
needing necessarily to swim in every toilet along the way and then smear it 
over here too.
Best Regards from FF,
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Fighting Spiritual Malaise

2011-01-10 Thread TurquoiseB
Oh, I get it...it's Spiritual Platitude Day. That's 
where one passes along advice to those who neither 
need it nor consider you a viable dispenser of advice. 

Here's mine: If you have a feeling that you're 
going to post a bunch of platitudes, try to do it 
in one post rather than take six posts over 18
minutes to do it.  :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:

  Touring:
  
  ...enlightenment is possible. Not only is it possible. It can 
  definitely be attained in this lifetime.
 
 
 *If you've been on the spiritual path for many years and haven't 
 experienced what you expected, don't be discouraged. You can, and 
 will, experience enlightenment.*


*If you were disappointed by teachers that you felt didn't have 
integrity, or if you got turned off by the politics of spiritual 
organizations, don't be dismayed.*
   
   
   *If you've been meditating for years, but wonder why you haven't 
   experienced what the guru's described in the books that inspired you in 
   your youth, don't blame yourself.*
  
  
  *If you lost hope and got diverted along the way, please don't settle for 
  anything less than what you know in your heart is your true purpose in 
  life.*
 
 
 *As all the saints and sages throughout the ages have said, Human life is 
 precious. Don't waste it.*





[FairfieldLife] Re: Congresswoman shot in Arizona

2011-01-10 Thread WillyTex


 But it's these kind of statements and actions 
 (putting the congressman in gun cross-hairs) 
 that creates an atmosphere where the unhinged 
 feel they have the OK to go ahead...

  The images long described as crosshairs or rifle 
  sights were actually just surveyor's symbols...
 
authfriend
 Not.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/scriptingnews/5339914742

So, you're suggesting that Palin wanted someone to shoot 
Giffords with a gun, so Palin had a bullseyes put on her 
site? That's what it sounds like, that you're saying the
shooter saw the symbols on Palin's web site and then
bought a gun to shoot Giffords. Do you have any evidence
that the shooter saw Palin's web site?

 The images long described as crosshairs or rifle 
 sights were actually just surveyor's symbols...
 
 The Atlantic, January 9, 2011
 http://tinyurl.com/2dcwj6b





Re: [FairfieldLife] Obsessive love affair with guns

2011-01-10 Thread Vaj


On Jan 10, 2011, at 8:06 AM, raunchydog wrote:

In a middle-aged person's lifetime we Democrats have managed to  
see, just to point out a few things, two Kennedy Brothers and  
Martin Luther King, Jr. assassinated, the murders of several  
physicians who performed abortions, and now this. A little fact  
that makes it rather understandable some of us have a problem, not  
with the Second Amendment as written, but rather the unhealthy  
obsessive love affair too many people have with it. It's a legal  
document, not your mother/binky/savior/God/manhood.


clip


Very well said collection.

[FairfieldLife] The Vatican does Reality TV...kinda

2011-01-10 Thread TurquoiseB
Bet it won't ever achieve even a fraction of the ratings of its
competition. After all, six million people watch Jersey Shore,
thinking that to be reality. My bet is that this show will never draw
even a 1/10th of that number of viewers. Bitches get better ratings than
witches any day. :-)

Exorcism Reality Show 'The Exorcist Files' Planned By Discovery Channel
And Vatican
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/05/exorcism-reality-show-the_n_80\
5046.html   The Discovery Channel is teaming up with the
Vatican to create an exorcism reality show, James Hibberd reports
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/01/05/discovery-exorcist-files/ :  The
Exorcist Files will recreate stories of real-life  hauntings and demonic
possession, based on cases investigated by the  Catholic Church. The
project includes access into the Vatican's case  files, as well as
interviews with the organization's top exorcists --  religious experts
who are rarely seen on television.
If the show's first season is successful, the network hopes its 
partnership with the Church will pave the way for producers GoGo Luckey 
to take the series to the next level -- joining Catholic investigators 
on live demon-purging ride-alongs. (Move over, Syfy's Ghost Hunters.)

Hibberd has more info on the show here
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/01/05/discovery-exorcist-files/ .

We're not sure this is exactly in their target range, but if they're
looking for fresh cases of witchcraft to dig into, Romania should prove
fertile ground
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20110105/eu-romania-witchcraft\
/ .
Everyone curses the tax man, but Romanian witches angry  about having to
pay up for the first time are planning to use cat  excrement and dead
dogs to cast spells on the president and government.
Also among Romania's newest taxpayers are fortune tellers -- but they
probably should have seen it coming.

Superstitions are no laughing matter in Romania -- the land of the 
medieval ruler who inspired the Dracula tale -- and have been part of 
its culture for centuries. President Traian Basescu and his aides have 
been known to wear purple on certain days, supposedly to ward off evil.

Romanian witches from the east and west will head to the southern 
plains and the Danube River on Thursday to threaten the government with 
spells and spirits because of the tax law, which came into effect Jan. 
1.
Story continues below Advertisement
A dozen witches will hurl the poisonous mandrake plant into the  Danube
to put a hex on government officials so evil will befall them,  said a
witch named Alisia. She identified herself with one name --  customary
among Romania's witches.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Congresswoman shot in Arizona

2011-01-10 Thread WillyTex


Joe:
 Exactly...just more of Palin's make-it-up-as-she-goes-along 
 version of truth...
 
So, you're trying to what, blame Palin and the 'Tea Party' for
killing all those people? But, at the same time, you're saying 
that we should 'tone down' the rhetoric? You're not making any 
sense.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsessive love affair with guns

2011-01-10 Thread WillyTex


raunchydog:
 The disease of the neo-cons and their enablers 
 sickens the nation...

So, let's blame the 'neo-cons' and their enablers
for the recent Arizona massacre. Forget toning
down the rhetoric! Let's do something about those
gun-owners and politicians.
 
 The billionaires paying for this are beyond 
 contempt... 

Kill the Jewish Cabal!!! Kill all the neo-cons 
rats!!! Kill all the enablers too!!!

 The Bush family... 

Don't you just hate that Bush family! Gawd, now 
they're targeting 9-year old children in Arizona. 

The Bush's were probably behind the Kennedy 
killings, and the Martin Luther King murder.

 The Murdochs. The Rockefellers... 

Shit, the Murdochs and the Rockefellers probably 
started the fukin' Civil War!




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsessive love affair with guns

2011-01-10 Thread WillyTex


  In a middle-aged person's lifetime we Democrats have managed to  
  see, just to point out a few things, two Kennedy Brothers and  
  Martin Luther King, Jr. assassinated, the murders of several  
  physicians who performed abortions, and now this. A little fact  
  that makes it rather understandable some of us have a problem, not  
  with the Second Amendment as written, but rather the unhealthy  
  obsessive love affair too many people have with it. It's a legal  
  document, not your mother/binky/savior/God/manhood.
 
Vaj:
 Very well said collection.

Don't you just hate those fukin' Republicans!!! 
The Republicans probably killed Abraham Lincoln.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsessive love affair with guns

2011-01-10 Thread sparaig
I agree with the point you are making Willy, but when you use that kind of 
language to make it, people are very unlikely to pay attention.

I just quote our good Sherrif Dupnik at 'em and leave it at that.

Lawson (accused of being a rightwing fanatic on Talking Points Memo for quoting 
a [now internationally] respected sheriff basically saying can't we all just 
get along?)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:

 
 
 raunchydog:
  The disease of the neo-cons and their enablers 
  sickens the nation...
 
 So, let's blame the 'neo-cons' and their enablers
 for the recent Arizona massacre. Forget toning
 down the rhetoric! Let's do something about those
 gun-owners and politicians.
  
  The billionaires paying for this are beyond 
  contempt... 
 
 Kill the Jewish Cabal!!! Kill all the neo-cons 
 rats!!! Kill all the enablers too!!!
 
  The Bush family... 
 
 Don't you just hate that Bush family! Gawd, now 
 they're targeting 9-year old children in Arizona. 
 
 The Bush's were probably behind the Kennedy 
 killings, and the Martin Luther King murder.
 
  The Murdochs. The Rockefellers... 
 
 Shit, the Murdochs and the Rockefellers probably 
 started the fukin' Civil War!





[FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Jan 8, 2011, at 2:41 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
 
  The thing about effortlessness, to me is like the same about gold.   
  Is pure gold, pure?  No, it is only 99.999% pure.  Is TM completely  
  effortless ?   No, but why quibble about the amount of effort to  
  introduce or come back to the mantra.  Maybe it's only 90%  
  effortless.  I'll give it a pass on that basis.  Is this really an  
  area of contention?
 
 
 The primary reason is that in Indian (and Buddhist or Jain)  
 meditation systems, Patanjali for example, explains that effort is  
 necessary in a dualistic system. ANY system of meditation that relies  
 on objects or props (alambanas) will, ipso facto, require some  
 effort. The more balanced and innocent the effort, the better the  
 technique. Effortless meditation, in eastern metaphysics, refers to  
 either the higher end of prop-based meditation practice where the  
 intent to enter absorption is all that is necessary (for hours of  
 effortless deep meditation) OR, more importantly, it refers to  
 nondual meditation.

Or, it refers to TM, where either situation (and countless more) can arise.
[...]
 Alambana
 n. depending on or resting upon ; hanging from Pa1n2. ; supporting ,  
 sustaining Megh. ; foundation , base Prab. Kat2hUp. ; reason ,  
 cause ; (in rhetoric) the natural and necessary connection of a  
 sensation with the cause which excites it Sa1h. ; the mental exercise  
 practised by the Yogin in endeavouring to realize the gross form of  
 the Eternal VP. ; silent repetition of a prayer [W.] ; (with  
 Buddhists) the five attributes of things (apprehended by or connected  
 with the five senses , viz. form , sound , smell , taste , and  
 touch ; also %{dharma} or law belonging to %{manas}).


As a friend of mine puts it, you meditate for days/weeks/months/years and 
suddenly realize you've been doing it all wrong. Then you meditate for 
days/weeks/months/years and suddenly realize you've been doing it all wrong.

The process of TM isn't something that can be described. You're hung up on 
gross descriptions of various possible scenarios and assume they arise from 
different pedagogy.


Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences

2011-01-10 Thread do.rflex


Congresswoman and shooting victim Gabrielle Giffords 
may have foreseen her own future last year when she 
warned Sarah Palin that there would be consequences.

Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tTDiZZYCAs












Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread Vaj


On Jan 10, 2011, at 10:20 AM, sparaig wrote:

As a friend of mine puts it, you meditate for days/weeks/months/ 
years and suddenly realize you've been doing it all wrong. Then  
you meditate for days/weeks/months/years and suddenly realize  
you've been doing it all wrong.


The process of TM isn't something that can be described. You're  
hung up on gross descriptions of various possible scenarios and  
assume they arise from different pedagogy.



It's really just Indian meditational metaphysics 101, which is lost  
when we become more interested in marketing catch-phrases than in  
empowering our students with knowledge and wisdom. Consequently  
there's a huge gap between such foundational understanding and mere  
pedagogy.


A moot point anyway, TM is most likely a dying meditation form and  
it's successor, Sahaj Meditation, seems more geared for  
reestablishing authenticity.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fighting Spiritual Malaise

2011-01-10 Thread Joe
Now that's funny! (But only because I'm old enough to know why.)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  
  
  
   
   
   


 
 
 
  
  
  
   Touring:
   
   ...enlightenment is possible. Not only is it possible. It can 
   definitely be attained in this lifetime.
  
  
  *If you've been on the spiritual path for many years and haven't 
  experienced what you expected, don't be discouraged. You can, and 
  will, experience enlightenment.*
 
 
 *If you were disappointed by teachers that you felt didn't have 
 integrity, or if you got turned off by the politics of spiritual 
 organizations, don't be dismayed.*


*If you've been meditating for years, but wonder why you haven't 
experienced what the guru's described in the books that inspired you in 
your youth, don't blame yourself.*
   
   
   *If you lost hope and got diverted along the way, please don't settle for 
   anything less than what you know in your heart is your true purpose in 
   life.*
  
  
  *As all the saints and sages throughout the ages have said, Human life is 
  precious. Don't waste it.*
 
 
 Burma Shave





[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread tartbrain
OK. And how does that make you feel?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviy...@... wrote:

 Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
 really appreciate your input and blessings. 
 
 
 Thank you,
 
 Much Love - Ravi Yogi
 
 Anatomy of the Turqster
 
 Small Penis Disorder
 
 Small Penis Complex (SPC) or Small Penis disorder(SPD) has been defined by 
 Dr. 
 Ravi Yogi [1], Psy.D, U.C Berkeley as a personality disorder characterized by 
 a 
 pattern of behavior that includes extreme grief, panic triggered by 
 references 
 to any spiritual experience that gives the person a huge inferiority complex 
 and 
 results in the person spending their entire time in various online spiritual 
 chat groups trying to harass and hound believers. They try convince the 
 believers of their false freedom and happiness that purportedly had arisen 
 from 
 their philosophy of no practice or atheistic non-spiritual practices.
 
 Characteristics
 People with small penis disorder usually have good verbal and interpersonal 
 skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and 
 become 
 the center of attention [2]. People with SPC exhibit most or all of the 
 following symptoms
 
   1. Predominantly spend their time in spiritual online chat circles.
   2. Display extreme sensitivity to any spiritual experiences or altered 
 states 
 of consciousness achieved through meditation, yoga.
   3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative or one-sided 
 portrayals of 
 religion.
   4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw by stopping to 
 respond 
 and adopting a holier-than-thou attitude.
   5. Strong dislike of authority and morals, and react by accusations of 
 fear and 
 retribution on people who display humility and respect of authority and 
 morals.
   6. Demand scientific proof of mystical experiences and berate 
 subjective 
 experiences while having no qualms about using their subjective experiences 
 in 
 other matters.
   7. Constantly remind everyone of their projected freedom and happiness 
 achieved 
 through no practice practice which could include references to atheism, 
 Neo-Advaita and Neo-Buddhist practices.
   8. Exhibitionist behavior and a need to be the center of attention.
 
 Causes
 The cause of this disorder is known to be caused by involvement in religious 
 cults [3]. The scars and trauma of being manipulated, rejected and isolated 
 in 
 cults is known to be affect some to develop full blown symptoms of Small 
 Penis 
 Disorder [4].
 
 Dr. Ravi Yogi has identified by the following maladaptive schemas using Dr. 
 Jeffrey Young's schema theory [5] with SPC - DEFECTIVENESS / SHAME  (DS), 
 SOCIAL 
 ISOLATION / ALIENATION   (SI), FAILURE  (FA) and/or ABANDONMENT / 
  INSTABILITY   (AB).
 
 Diagnosis
 The person's behavior, history, involvement in spiritual circles especially 
 their behavior of haranguing believers along with a psychological evaluation, 
 are usually sufficient to establish the diagnosis. Treatment is often 
 prompted 
 by depression associated with dissolved cult relationships and/or by family 
 and 
 friends who notice their overbearing harassing behavior on spiritual online 
 portals.
 
 Treatment
 Because of the lack of research support for work on personality disorders and 
 long-term treatment with psychotherapy, the empirical findings on the 
 treatment 
 of these disorders remain based on the case report method and not on clinical 
 trials.
 
 Dr. Ravi Yogi, the pioneer in SPC recommends the following.
 
   * Schema Therapy
   * Cognitive behavioral therapy
   * Dr. Ravi Yogi's TTWFAR Therapy (TTWFAR - Taking the world for a 
 ride™)
 
 References
   1. Dr. Ravi Yogi (formerly Ravi Chivukula), Psy.D, U.C Berkeley is one 
 of the 
 leading researchers of SPC and is lobbying to include SPC in DSM V - 
 Diagnostic 
 and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) the fifth edition.
   2. See Histrionic Personality Disorder
   3. Frederick Lenz, former Cult leader on Amazon
   4. Seekers, Gurus, SPC and the rise of Skeptic Gurus by Dr. Ravi Yogi, 
 Psy.D, 
 U.C Berkeley
   5. Schema Therapy





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsessive love affair with guns

2011-01-10 Thread tartbrain

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:

 I agree with the point you are making Willy, but when you use that kind of 
 language to make it, people are very unlikely to pay attention.
 
 I just quote our good Sherrif Dupnik at 'em and leave it at that.
 
 Lawson (accused of being a rightwing fanatic on Talking Points Memo for 
 quoting a [now internationally] respected sheriff basically saying can't we 
 all just get along?)

Sounds more like a left wing nut case. CAn't we all just get along? What a 
perposterous idea! Why if the founding fathers wanted us to get along they 
would have written Kumbaya into the Constitution. GEtting along means giving up 
our god given rights to individual liberty and freedom to pursue even our most 
deviant of desires, is counter to the sacredness of ones vibrant ego stretched 
across the land from sea to shining sea, and violates the sacred vow that I am 
right, damn it. Always.  

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote:
 
  
  
  raunchydog:
   The disease of the neo-cons and their enablers 
   sickens the nation...
  
  So, let's blame the 'neo-cons' and their enablers
  for the recent Arizona massacre. Forget toning
  down the rhetoric! Let's do something about those
  gun-owners and politicians.
   
   The billionaires paying for this are beyond 
   contempt... 
  
  Kill the Jewish Cabal!!! Kill all the neo-cons 
  rats!!! Kill all the enablers too!!!
  
   The Bush family... 
  
  Don't you just hate that Bush family! Gawd, now 
  they're targeting 9-year old children in Arizona. 
  
  The Bush's were probably behind the Kennedy 
  killings, and the Martin Luther King murder.
  
   The Murdochs. The Rockefellers... 
  
  Shit, the Murdochs and the Rockefellers probably 
  started the fukin' Civil War!
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:38 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:

 Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
 really appreciate your input and blessings. 

 Thank you,
 
 Much Love - Ravi Yogi
 
 Anatomy of the Turqster
 
 Small Penis Disorder

Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
If it doesn't, I would wonder what does.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsessive love affair with guns

2011-01-10 Thread tartbrain

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  I agree with the point you are making Willy, but when you use that kind of 
  language to make it, people are very unlikely to pay attention.
  
  I just quote our good Sherrif Dupnik at 'em and leave it at that.
  
  Lawson (accused of being a rightwing fanatic on Talking Points Memo for 
  quoting a [now internationally] respected sheriff basically saying can't 
  we all just get along?)
 
 Sounds more like a left wing nut case. CAn't we all just get along? What a 
 perposterous idea! Why if the founding fathers wanted us to get along they 
 would have written Kumbaya into the Constitution. GEtting along means giving 
 up our god given rights to individual liberty and freedom to pursue even our 
 most deviant of desires, is counter to the sacredness of ones vibrant ego 
 stretched across the land from sea to shining sea, and violates the sacred 
 vow that I am right, damn it. Always.  

And dab nabbit the founding fathers would not have made the national symbol the 
Golden Ego if they did not want us to let out egos soar high and across the 
vastness of the sky. 




 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote:
  
   
   
   raunchydog:
The disease of the neo-cons and their enablers 
sickens the nation...
   
   So, let's blame the 'neo-cons' and their enablers
   for the recent Arizona massacre. Forget toning
   down the rhetoric! Let's do something about those
   gun-owners and politicians.

The billionaires paying for this are beyond 
contempt... 
   
   Kill the Jewish Cabal!!! Kill all the neo-cons 
   rats!!! Kill all the enablers too!!!
   
The Bush family... 
   
   Don't you just hate that Bush family! Gawd, now 
   they're targeting 9-year old children in Arizona. 
   
   The Bush's were probably behind the Kennedy 
   killings, and the Martin Luther King murder.
   
The Murdochs. The Rockefellers... 
   
   Shit, the Murdochs and the Rockefellers probably 
   started the fukin' Civil War!
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Fighting Spiritual Malaise

2011-01-10 Thread jpgillam
My favorite:

   Within this vale
   Of toil and sin
   Your head grows bald
   But not your chin


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:

 Now that's funny! (But only because I'm old enough to know why.)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   
   
   



 
 
  
  
  
   
   
   
Touring:

...enlightenment is possible. Not only is it possible. It can 
definitely be attained in this lifetime.
   
   
   *If you've been on the spiritual path for many years and haven't 
   experienced what you expected, don't be discouraged. You can, and 
   will, experience enlightenment.*
  
  
  *If you were disappointed by teachers that you felt didn't have 
  integrity, or if you got turned off by the politics of spiritual 
  organizations, don't be dismayed.*
 
 
 *If you've been meditating for years, but wonder why you haven't 
 experienced what the guru's described in the books that inspired you 
 in your youth, don't blame yourself.*


*If you lost hope and got diverted along the way, please don't settle 
for anything less than what you know in your heart is your true purpose 
in life.*
   
   
   *As all the saints and sages throughout the ages have said, Human life 
   is precious. Don't waste it.*
  
  
  Burma Shave
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Jan 10, 2011, at 10:20 AM, sparaig wrote:
 
  As a friend of mine puts it, you meditate for days/weeks/months/ 
  years and suddenly realize you've been doing it all wrong. Then  
  you meditate for days/weeks/months/years and suddenly realize  
  you've been doing it all wrong.
 
  The process of TM isn't something that can be described. You're  
  hung up on gross descriptions of various possible scenarios and  
  assume they arise from different pedagogy.
 
 
 It's really just Indian meditational metaphysics 101, which is lost  
 when we become more interested in marketing catch-phrases than in  
 empowering our students with knowledge and wisdom. Consequently  
 there's a huge gap between such foundational understanding and mere  
 pedagogy.
 
 A moot point anyway, TM is most likely a dying meditation form and  
 it's successor, Sahaj Meditation, seems more geared for  
 reestablishing authenticity.


If its moot, why are you here?

Come to think of it, if it's not moot, why are  you here?

Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, James Peterson enjoyhumanbe...@... 
wrote:

 Effortless  Thing  Again..
 
 Lest  WE  forget..    K?   Big  Boy  was  confronted on THIS 
 relentlessly    finally  admitted:
  O.K.,  Half-Effort .


Anything to shut up the obsessive-compulsives in the audience.

HInt hint...


Lawson



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 10, 2011, at 9:43 AM, tartbrain wrote:

 OK. And how does that make you feel?

I hope it makes him feel like he's about to
get his ass suspended.  At least that
would be my inclination, if it were up to
me.  Which it's not.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] The Tell

2011-01-10 Thread raunchydog
Right wingers are falling all over themselves saying, It's not my fault, the 
crazy guy is responsible for shooting people. Even if NOT directly accused, 
they're busily scrubbing websites, saying Loughner was a lefty, gun-sight 
cross-hairs were surveyor's cross-hairs, and Sheriff Dupnik who never says 
right-wing vitriol or conservative hate speech — or even mentioned Faux 
News or El Rushbo gets accused of stirring more vitriol when he simply called 
for more civility. The right wing certainly acts like they own it. What say you?

http://tinyurl.com/479c3l8
http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/10/early-morning-swim-fox-news-megyn-kelly-browbeats-arizona-sheriff-for-speaking-out-against-vitriolic-rhetoric/



[FairfieldLife] On pointing fingers...

2011-01-10 Thread sparaig
http://www.facebook.com/notes/lawson-english/on-pointing-fingers/155227804529673
  I should have been a pundit

Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: Fighting Spiritual Malaise

2011-01-10 Thread pranamoocher
Classic!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoi...@...
wrote:
Here's mine: If you have a feeling that you're
 going to post a bunch of platitudes, try to do it
 in one post rather than take six posts over 18
 minutes to do it.  :-)

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
   Touring:
  
   ...enlightenment is possible. Not only is it possible. It
can definitely be attained in this lifetime.
  
 
  *If you've been on the spiritual path for many years and
haven't experienced what you expected, don't be discouraged. You can,
and will, experience enlightenment.*
 

 *If you were disappointed by teachers that you felt didn't
have integrity, or if you got turned off by the politics of spiritual
organizations, don't be dismayed.*

   
*If you've been meditating for years, but wonder why you haven't
experienced what the guru's described in the books that inspired you in
your youth, don't blame yourself.*
   
  
   *If you lost hope and got diverted along the way, please don't
settle for anything less than what you know in your heart is your true
purpose in life.*
  
 
  *As all the saints and sages throughout the ages have said, Human
life is precious. Don't waste it.*
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread tartbrain

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  
  On Jan 10, 2011, at 10:20 AM, sparaig wrote:
  
   As a friend of mine puts it, you meditate for days/weeks/months/ 
   years and suddenly realize you've been doing it all wrong. Then  
   you meditate for days/weeks/months/years and suddenly realize  
   you've been doing it all wrong.
  
   The process of TM isn't something that can be described. You're  
   hung up on gross descriptions of various possible scenarios and  
   assume they arise from different pedagogy.
  
  
  It's really just Indian meditational metaphysics 101, which is lost  
  when we become more interested in marketing catch-phrases than in  
  empowering our students with knowledge and wisdom. Consequently  
  there's a huge gap between such foundational understanding and mere  
  pedagogy.
  
  A moot point anyway, TM is most likely a dying meditation form and  
  it's successor, Sahaj Meditation, seems more geared for  
  reestablishing authenticity.
 
 
 If its moot, why are you here?
 
 Come to think of it, if it's not moot, why are  you here?
 
 Lawson


I think it has something to do with A G N. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread docwhammo
Yogi?  as in what?  yogi bear?

Wow, what a forum



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviy...@... wrote:

 Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
 really appreciate your input and blessings. 
 
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences

2011-01-10 Thread WillyTex


do.rflex:
 Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will 
 be consequences
 

FFL informants now race to blame Palin after Arizona 
shootings!

Yep, all the leftists out there quickly tried to 
blame the Tea Party for this assassination, and it 
turns out it was one of their own. I think it's 
obvious which side truly believes in free speech 
and open debate, and which side believes in silencing 
and punishing conflicting opinions. It's no surprise 
really, this is classic Marxist/Communist? behavior 
here, look at history people.

Washington Examiner, January 0, 2011
http://tinyurl.com/3a9ny3e

 Congresswoman and shooting victim Gabrielle Giffords 
 may have foreseen her own future last year when she 
 warned Sarah Palin that there would be consequences.
 
 Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tTDiZZYCAs





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsessive love affair with guns

2011-01-10 Thread WillyTex


sparaig:
 I agree with the point you are making Willy, but 
 when you use that kind of language to make it, 
 people are very unlikely to pay attention.
 
 I just quote our good Sherrif Dupnik at 'em and 
 leave it at that.
 
Yes, let's just leave it at that.

If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a 
Gun. - Barack Obama

I think the vitriolic rhetoric that we hear day 
in and day out from people in the radio business 
and some people in the TV business and what (we) 
see on TV and how our youngsters are being raised, 
that this has not become the nice United States of 
America that most of us grew up in. And I think 
it's time that we do the soul-searching, the 
sheriff said.

Fox News, January 9, 2011
http://tinyurl.com/26vzt72



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread Vaj


On Jan 10, 2011, at 11:56 AM, sparaig wrote:


If its moot, why are you here?

Come to think of it, if it's not moot, why are you here?


The Holy Tradition sent me. They'll be airbrushing me in any day now.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obsessive love affair with guns

2011-01-10 Thread WillyTex


  I just quote our good Sherrif Dupnik at 
  'em and leave it at that...
  
tartbrain:  
 Sounds more like a left wing nut case...
 
Look who else put 'bull's-eye' on Giffords:

Moulitsas, however, had also posted what he 
called a target list identifying Giffords. 

In a 2008 Daily Kos post, Moulitsas listed 
Giffords as one of dozens of representatives 
with a bull's-eye on their district for 
being a bad apple Democrat...

World Net Daily, January 9, 2011
http://tinyurl.com/2ayyct8



[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread whynotnow7
lol- I assume you are joking Sal, right? At least I hope you are. turquoiseb 
talks about big dicks (as in penises) regularly and you've never asked for 
the moderators to intervene on your behalf regarding his remarks. 

I recall the last time he did this was in reference to that fellow Mario who 
was pestering people for the advanced techniques and turquoiseb said something 
about a side effect being the guy would grow a gigantic dick. Crickets from you 
Sal at that time. 

I thought Ravi's article was pretty good satire.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:

 On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:38 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
 
  Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
  really appreciate your input and blessings. 
 
  Thank you,
  
  Much Love - Ravi Yogi
  
  Anatomy of the Turqster
  
  Small Penis Disorder
 
 Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
 If it doesn't, I would wonder what does.
 
 Sal





[FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, James Peterson enjoyhumanbeing@ wrote:
 
  Effortless  Thing  Again..
  
  Lest WE forget...Big Boy was confronted on THIS relentlessly
  and finally admitted:
   O.K., Half-Effort.
 
 Anything to shut up the obsessive-compulsives in the audience.
 
 HInt hint...

So you're saying that you would prefer to believe
that Maharishi was lying in this case to shut someone 
up rather than telling the truth. Says a lot about you.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obsessive love affair with guns

2011-01-10 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/10/2011 08:26 AM, tartbrain wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrainno_re...@...  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaigLEnglish5@  wrote:
 I agree with the point you are making Willy, but when you use that kind of 
 language to make it, people are very unlikely to pay attention.

 I just quote our good Sherrif Dupnik at 'em and leave it at that.

 Lawson (accused of being a rightwing fanatic on Talking Points Memo for 
 quoting a [now internationally] respected sheriff basically saying can't 
 we all just get along?)
 Sounds more like a left wing nut case. CAn't we all just get along? What a 
 perposterous idea! Why if the founding fathers wanted us to get along they 
 would have written Kumbaya into the Constitution. GEtting along means giving 
 up our god given rights to individual liberty and freedom to pursue even our 
 most deviant of desires, is counter to the sacredness of ones vibrant ego 
 stretched across the land from sea to shining sea, and violates the sacred 
 vow that I am right, damn it. Always. 
 And dab nabbit the founding fathers would not have made the national symbol 
 the Golden Ego if they did not want us to let out egos soar high and across 
 the vastness of the sky.

Or perhaps our educational system since the 1980s has been too obsessed 
with raising the self-esteem of students.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread Vaj


On Jan 10, 2011, at 11:55 AM, sparaig wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, James Peterson  
enjoyhumanbe...@... wrote:


 Effortless  Thing  Again..

 Lest  WE  forget..    K?   Big  Boy  was  confronted on  
THIS relentlessly    finally  admitted:

  O.K.,  Half-Effort .


Anything to shut up the obsessive-compulsives in the audience.

HInt hint...



Hey it's like Shiva says:

Effort achieves the goal.  - Shiva Sutra

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obsessive love affair with guns

2011-01-10 Thread Tom Pall
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:00 AM, WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Don't you just hate those fukin' Republicans!!!
 The Republicans probably killed Abraham Lincoln.



Better reel it in, Willy.  Dontcha see where this is going?  New laws will
be passed, perhaps ex post facto, making it a crime to give a crazy guy
ideas which he uses to justify murder or to raise a public debate to
anything above a whispered yes, Dear.   The Beetles (Helter-Skelter) and
Jodi Foster might be charged under these new laws.  Perhaps Kellogg, the
makers of Rice Crispies, the cereal which, when moistened, talks to some and
God (made me do it) might also be charged under these new laws.  It's just a
matter of time before there's a knock on your and my doors, charged with
violating one of the new Gifford acts.


[FairfieldLife] Re: The Tell

2011-01-10 Thread tartbrain

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 Right wingers are falling all over themselves saying, It's not my fault, the 
 crazy guy is responsible for shooting people. Even if NOT directly accused, 
 they're busily scrubbing websites, saying Loughner was a lefty, gun-sight 
 cross-hairs were surveyor's cross-hairs, and Sheriff Dupnik who never says 
 right-wing vitriol or conservative hate speech — or even mentioned Faux 
 News or El Rushbo gets accused of stirring more vitriol when he simply called 
 for more civility. The right wing certainly acts like they own it. What say 
 you?
 
 http://tinyurl.com/479c3l8
 http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/10/early-morning-swim-fox-news-megyn-kelly-browbeats-arizona-sheriff-for-speaking-out-against-vitriolic-rhetoric/

See the Buddha in all beings? 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread docwhammo
How many of you were taught that the point of meditation is to look good in 
front of a knowledgeable pundit?  Seems like a great disservice.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Jan 8, 2011, at 2:41 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
 
  The thing about effortlessness, to me is like the same about gold.   
  Is pure gold, pure?  No, it is only 99.999% pure.  Is TM completely  
  effortless ?   No, but why quibble about the amount of effort to  
  introduce or come back to the mantra.  Maybe it's only 90%  
  effortless.  I'll give it a pass on that basis.  Is this really an  
  area of contention?
 
 
 The primary reason is that in Indian (and Buddhist or Jain)  
 meditation systems, Patanjali for example, explains that effort is  
 necessary in a dualistic system. ANY system of meditation that relies  
 on objects or props (alambanas) will, ipso facto, require some  
 effort. The more balanced and innocent the effort, the better the  
 technique. Effortless meditation, in eastern metaphysics, refers to  
 either the higher end of prop-based meditation practice where the  
 intent to enter absorption is all that is necessary (for hours of  
 effortless deep meditation) OR, more importantly, it refers to  
 nondual meditation.
 
 It's the naive confusion of the style of non-meditation  in nondual  
 mediation practice, like used in Advaita Vedanta or Dzogchen that  
 should be a warning sign to any careful listener. It's a sure way to  
 tell if the person is a programmed parrot or not.
 
 In the west such nuances are easily glossed over. But in the east, in  
 front of a knowledgeable pundit, you wouldn't fare as well.
 
 It it has alambanas, it has effort. Period.
 
 Otherwise you'd have to deny that TM relies on the support of mantras  
 and the memory to return to the mantra when transcending stops and  
 engagement with thinking starts again.
 
 Alambana
 n. depending on or resting upon ; hanging from Pa1n2. ; supporting ,  
 sustaining Megh. ; foundation , base Prab. Kat2hUp. ; reason ,  
 cause ; (in rhetoric) the natural and necessary connection of a  
 sensation with the cause which excites it Sa1h. ; the mental exercise  
 practised by the Yogin in endeavouring to realize the gross form of  
 the Eternal VP. ; silent repetition of a prayer [W.] ; (with  
 Buddhists) the five attributes of things (apprehended by or connected  
 with the five senses , viz. form , sound , smell , taste , and  
 touch ; also %{dharma} or law belonging to %{manas}).





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Tell

2011-01-10 Thread Tom Pall
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:50 AM, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

 See the Buddha in all beings?


 I have two nominations for post of the week.  This one and Vaj's saying he
was sent by the Holy Tradition.  Good one, Vaj!


[FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread yifuxero
No Vajall practices from all traditions require effort in the form of Work; 
analogous to the Law of physics: Work = ET = energy * time.
So if the time factor is reduced, the energy must increase. Possibly, a program 
can be effortless if the time is reduced to zero; say you hear you're already 
Enlightened and it sticks...but unlikely.
...
In the Traditions/programs you have an affinity for, there's the time factor 
and Work. Take your 10 day Vipassana retreats. Obviously, there's plenty of 
work involved in even getting to the retreat.
...
Basically, you're confused, Vaj; and prejudicial to boot. Hang it up
.
http://www.fantasygallery.net/stone/art_0_Winged-Elf-Lord.html 
...



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   
   On Jan 10, 2011, at 10:20 AM, sparaig wrote:
   
As a friend of mine puts it, you meditate for days/weeks/months/ 
years and suddenly realize you've been doing it all wrong. Then  
you meditate for days/weeks/months/years and suddenly realize  
you've been doing it all wrong.
   
The process of TM isn't something that can be described. You're  
hung up on gross descriptions of various possible scenarios and  
assume they arise from different pedagogy.
   
   
   It's really just Indian meditational metaphysics 101, which is lost  
   when we become more interested in marketing catch-phrases than in  
   empowering our students with knowledge and wisdom. Consequently  
   there's a huge gap between such foundational understanding and mere  
   pedagogy.
   
   A moot point anyway, TM is most likely a dying meditation form and  
   it's successor, Sahaj Meditation, seems more geared for  
   reestablishing authenticity.
  
  
  If its moot, why are you here?
  
  Come to think of it, if it's not moot, why are  you here?
  
  Lawson
 
 
 I think it has something to do with A G N.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread Vaj


On Jan 10, 2011, at 12:50 PM, docwhammo wrote:

How many of you were taught that the point of meditation is to look  
good in front of a knowledgeable pundit? Seems like a great  
disservice.



The foot-in-mouth asana comes effortlessly for fools.

No need to try. ;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Tell

2011-01-10 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/10/2011 09:13 AM, raunchydog wrote:
 Right wingers are falling all over themselves saying, It's not my fault, the 
 crazy guy is responsible for shooting people. Even if NOT directly accused, 
 they're busily scrubbing websites, saying Loughner was a lefty, gun-sight 
 cross-hairs were surveyor's cross-hairs, and Sheriff Dupnik who never says 
 right-wing vitriol or conservative hate speech — or even mentioned Faux 
 News or El Rushbo gets accused of stirring more vitriol when he simply called 
 for more civility. The right wing certainly acts like they own it. What say 
 you?

 http://tinyurl.com/479c3l8
 http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/10/early-morning-swim-fox-news-megyn-kelly-browbeats-arizona-sheriff-for-speaking-out-against-vitriolic-rhetoric/



All the rhetoric is just a solid indicator that the US is in decline and 
people are losing it. I also have predicted that the US may look like 
warn-torn Bosnia by 2014 and things seem to be on schedule for that. And 
as I said at the start of 2011 is going to be a very interesting year. 
When you have 1% of the populace relatively controlling how the other 
99% live you have a situation for upheaval and rightly so. But the tea 
partiers see the wrong culprit (the government) rather than the 
oligarchs because they foolishly believe they will be rich some day and 
want to be able to lord their fractured political beliefs over the 
masses. Dream on tea partiers.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Crazy Talk

2011-01-10 Thread authfriend
I read this article when it first went up on Slate and 
thought it was one of the most pointless pieces I'd ever
read. Read it again just now and had the same reaction.

What Barry has taken from it demonstrates how pointless
it is:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoi...@... wrote:

 An article by Vaughan Bell, reposted from Slate because it's
 about bloody time somebody said this. Oh...he did it because
 he's crazy is IMO just a way of saying I'm too lazy to
 think past the first convenient box I found with which to 
 pigeonhole him.

We know why Barry posted this: because I've been insisting
that Loughner is almost certainly mentally ill, and Barry
thinks the article is an authoritative slam on me. But
beyond that, Barry has no idea what the author is trying
to say, because the author himself doesn't make a coherent
argument, any more than Barry does above.

What is the presumably preferable alternative to pointing
out that Loughner is most likely clinically mentally ill?
What *should* we be saying about Loughner? What do we come
up with, according to the author, if we aren't too lazy
to think past the first convenient box for Loughner?

Moreover, many people's *first* reaction (including
mine) wasn't that Loughner was crazy, but that he was
an extreme right-winger who attempted to assassinate
Giffords for her political views, egged on by right-
wing rhetoric that seemed to justify violence against
those who dissent from Tea Party-type positions. *That*
was the first convenient box--the lazy box--in which
Loughner was put.

So the author and Barry have it wrong from the get-go.
The crazy box is the less-lazy one, the one we come
up with when we think past the first one, when we know
more about Loughner from his YouTube and MySpace rants.

The author doesn't say whether he thinks Loughner is a
paranoid schizophrenic. It appears that *he* wants to
stick with the first box, to lay all the blame on the
right wing, to assume that Loughner had a sane basis
for attempting to kill Giffords (and everyone who had
come to her event, including a nine-year-old girl).

BTW, paranoid schizophrenia isn't just an amateur
diagnosis. A number of mental health professionals who
read Loughner's rantings have come to that conclusion at
least tentatively, because the form and content of those
rantings are *paradigmatic* of paranoid schizophrenia.
Of course he'd need to be examined in person and at
length by qualified professionals for the diagnosis to
be considered definitive, but it does seem like a good
possibility.

One of the gross flaws in the author's argument, such as
it is, is that the issue isn't the percentage of mentally
ill people who commit violence, but the percentage of 
those who commit violence who are mentally ill. The first
isn't much different from the percentage of the sane
population who commit violence, but the latter is 
disproportionately high.

Basically, the author of the Slate piece has debunked a
claim nobody was making, one that's entirely irrelevant
to the reaction to the Giffords case. Actually, *both*
statistics are irrelevant. Nobody is claiming Loughner
is mentally ill on the basis of either statistic, but
rather on the basis of what we know about him as an
individual.

And then the issue is, if he *is* crazy, does it make
any sense to do extensive analysis of personal  motives,
out-of-control grievances or distorted political anger?
Or would this be appropriate only if Loughner were sane?

Ultimately it all boils down to whether Loughner can be
considered responsible for his actions. Obviously he
needs to be put away so he can't harm anybody else, but
should he be punished for his crime, or treated for his
mental condition? That's a question about which
reasonable people can disagree, and if Loughner is
determined to be mentally ill, that will be a major 
focus of public discussion.

Anyway, the above is the kind of analysis with which
Barry can't be bothered; it's too much work, and Barry
is one of the most mentally lazy people I've ever
encountered. He isn't interested in issues; all he
wants to do is find something he can use to attempt to 
bash those he doesn't like, whether it makes sense or
not.


 We're too quick to use mental illness as an explanation for
 violence.Shortly after Jared Lee Loughner had been identified as the
 alleged shooter
 http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-08/jared-lee-lou\
 ghner-details-on-gabrielle-giffords-alleged-shooter/  of Arizona Rep.
 Gabrielle Giffords, online sleuths turned up pages of rambling text and
 videos http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4  he
 had created. A wave of amateur diagnoses soon followed, most of which
 concluded that Loughner was not so much a political extremist
 http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6198004/jared_lee_loughners_st\
 range_youtube.html?cat=9  as a man suffering from paranoid
 schizophrenia
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Congresswoman shot in Arizona

2011-01-10 Thread Tom Pall
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Joe geezerfr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 A self-proclaimed enlightened' bigot. Just what the world needs


Bigot:  anyone who doesn't hold Joe's worldview.  Joe can jump up and down,
call people names, but that's righteous.

This whole thing is just amazing if you step back for a few minutes and just
watch.  It's like a madness bomb got dropped on FFL.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread docwhammo
So how long will it take people to realize they are all fools?  

Thats the question, isnt it?

Perhaps they should ask Horatio.  Of course, they may be afraid of how they 
will fare... and so he waits until they are ready to face it.

What an asshole!  I say: just kick em in the ass until they get the point.  
This aint no motherfuckin games, homeboy!




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 The foot-in-mouth asana comes effortlessly for fools.
 
 No need to try. ;-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:

 On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:38 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
 
  Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
  really appreciate your input and blessings. 
 
  Thank you,
  
  Much Love - Ravi Yogi
  
  Anatomy of the Turqster
  
  Small Penis Disorder
 
 Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
 If it doesn't, I would wonder what does.

Trollish dumbassery that happens to contain the word 'penis' is not what I 
would define as pornography. As I understand it, what would make Yahoo classify 
FFL as an adult group (which is what we're trying to avoid and the reason why 
we have the porno rule) is the posting of pornographic imagery. Ravi's post did 
not contain any images or links to images. It also contained no written 
descriptions of sexual acts or other overt sexual vulgarity, which, as I 
recall, got some troll in a bit of hot water with Rick a while back. As always, 
Rick has the final say, but I don't see Ravi's post as being in violation of 
FFL rules.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread Vaj


On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:32 PM, docwhammo wrote:


So how long will it take people to realize they are all fools?

Thats the question, isnt it?



Hey, as long as you ain't buyin' a mantra, it's cheap entertainment.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Tell

2011-01-10 Thread PaliGap


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 Right wingers are falling all over themselves saying, It's not my fault, the 
 crazy guy is responsible for shooting people. Even if NOT directly accused, 
 they're busily scrubbing websites, saying Loughner was a lefty, gun-sight 
 cross-hairs were surveyor's cross-hairs, and Sheriff Dupnik who never says 
 right-wing vitriol or conservative hate speech — or even mentioned Faux 
 News or El Rushbo gets accused of stirring more vitriol when he simply called 
 for more civility. The right wing certainly acts like they own it. What say 
 you?
 
 http://tinyurl.com/479c3l8
 http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/10/early-morning-swim-fox-news-megyn-kelly-browbeats-arizona-sheriff-for-speaking-out-against-vitriolic-rhetoric/


Just a drive by post...

Even progressives succumb to casual hate-speech.

I know this might seem to be from far-away Brit land,
but George Monbiot is a VERY important player in the
climate debate globally. He (and the Guardian) are on
the side of what many here would take a priori to be
the goodies.

So what do we say we about this kind of hate-speech?

Every time someone dies as a result of floods in
Bangladesh, an airline executive should be dragged
out of his office and drowned.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/dec/05/comment.politics

Just recently the coldest December in the UK for around
100 years caused widespread travel chaos, especially for
those trying to fly. Imagine, in the light of Monbiot's
comment, if some deranged loonie had had a pop at an
airline boss! Say Richard Branson...

In my view intemperance is all bad - but it's not 
always owned by the Right is it? Or in the US of A
is it really divided up cleanly and simply between
goodiea and baddies on right/left (progressive) lines?











Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 10, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

 Trollish dumbassery 

LOL!  Another great expression...

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread WillyTex
3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative 
or one-sided portrayals of religion.

TurquoiseB:
 On my walk this morning I passed a church, through the
 windows of which I heard the voices of children in a 
 catechism class. I didn't understand the Dutch, but I
 certainly understood the scene. The pastor or whatever
 he is called in that church would spout a phrase and
 then the children were expected to repeat it. Rinse
 and repeat, first with all the children repeating the
 phrase in unison, and then singly, as the pastor went
 around the room listening to each of them say it. The
 kids who got it right (in his view) were praised; the
 ones who didn't were chastised and shamed in front
 of the other kids.
 
 This reminded me of what I see as the basis of the 
 recent Pile On Vaj fest. Some people, many of whom
 never became TM teachers themselves, declared him 
 not a real TM practitioner because some of his
 descriptions of the practice deviated from the TM
 catechism. In my view, children who had settled for 
 learning something by rote were trying to play the 
 role of the pastor and chastise someone who committed 
 the dastardly sin of describing things in his own words.
 
 The TM movement is all about catechism. Pretty much
 the only things you could possibly get brownie points
 for in the TMO were 1) giving them large amounts of
 money, and 2) repeating what you'd been taught ver-
 batim. TM teachers were taught that deviating from
 the verbatim catechism was a violation of the purity
 of the teaching. Pretty much the only strokes or 
 attaboys that lower-class TM citizens (non-teachers,
 non-Governors) could get were for repeating back to
 higher-class TM citizens (teachers, Governors) what
 they'd been taught, verbatim. Catechism 'R Us. 
 Parrots 'R Us.
 
 Back in my TM days I was a parrot, too, and was 
 considered one of the best at the art of verbatim 
 squawking. :-) But long ago I stopped trying to 
 please the parrots who taught me to parrot the 
 things they were taught to parrot by other parrots
 and started phrasing things the way I felt like 
 phrasing them. I see nothing wrong with this.
 
 Thus while those still in the TM fold may speak of
 the practice as effortless, I cannot. I know that
 some minimal amount of effort is involved, and is
 involved in ALL forms of meditation that require
 the practitioner to return their focus to an object
 of meditation (a mantra, yantra, whatever). I've 
 also been exposed to forms of meditation that are
 truly effortless, in that they have no object of
 focus at all. So, knowing this, it would be a lie
 for me to describe TM as effortless; my personal
 experience tells me it is not.
 
 Some would probably berate me for this. You will 
 have to forgive me if I ignore them, and use my own
 words. I hope Vaj continues to do so, too. I may 
 not always agree with his choice of phrasing and 
 the way that he describes things, but I respect 
 the fact that he chooses his own words, often with
 precision and clarity. I have no such respect for 
 the parrots.





[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Ravi Yogi

Dear tartbrain,

Thank you, I was feeling very depressed, lonely and downright needy. I knew I 
could count on your love, kindness and support.

You have literally saved a life by responding !! May God bless you !!!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote:

 OK. And how does that make you feel?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
  really appreciate your input and blessings. 
  
  
  Thank you,
  
  Much Love - Ravi Yogi
  
  Anatomy of the Turqster
  
  Small Penis Disorder
  
  Small Penis Complex (SPC) or Small Penis disorder(SPD) has been defined by 
  Dr. 
  Ravi Yogi [1], Psy.D, U.C Berkeley as a personality disorder characterized 
  by a 
  pattern of behavior that includes extreme grief, panic triggered by 
  references 
  to any spiritual experience that gives the person a huge inferiority 
  complex and 
  results in the person spending their entire time in various online 
  spiritual 
  chat groups trying to harass and hound believers. They try convince the 
  believers of their false freedom and happiness that purportedly had arisen 
  from 
  their philosophy of no practice or atheistic non-spiritual practices.
  
  Characteristics
  People with small penis disorder usually have good verbal and interpersonal 
  skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and 
  become 
  the center of attention [2]. People with SPC exhibit most or all of the 
  following symptoms
  
  1. Predominantly spend their time in spiritual online chat circles.
  2. Display extreme sensitivity to any spiritual experiences or altered 
  states 
  of consciousness achieved through meditation, yoga.
  3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative or one-sided 
  portrayals of 
  religion.
  4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw by stopping to 
  respond 
  and adopting a holier-than-thou attitude.
  5. Strong dislike of authority and morals, and react by accusations of 
  fear and 
  retribution on people who display humility and respect of authority and 
  morals.
  6. Demand scientific proof of mystical experiences and berate 
  subjective 
  experiences while having no qualms about using their subjective experiences 
  in 
  other matters.
  7. Constantly remind everyone of their projected freedom and happiness 
  achieved 
  through no practice practice which could include references to atheism, 
  Neo-Advaita and Neo-Buddhist practices.
  8. Exhibitionist behavior and a need to be the center of attention.
  
  Causes
  The cause of this disorder is known to be caused by involvement in 
  religious 
  cults [3]. The scars and trauma of being manipulated, rejected and isolated 
  in 
  cults is known to be affect some to develop full blown symptoms of Small 
  Penis 
  Disorder [4].
  
  Dr. Ravi Yogi has identified by the following maladaptive schemas using Dr. 
  Jeffrey Young's schema theory [5] with SPC - DEFECTIVENESS / SHAME  (DS), 
  SOCIAL 
  ISOLATION / ALIENATION   (SI), FAILURE  (FA) and/or ABANDONMENT / 
   INSTABILITY   (AB).
  
  Diagnosis
  The person's behavior, history, involvement in spiritual circles especially 
  their behavior of haranguing believers along with a psychological 
  evaluation, 
  are usually sufficient to establish the diagnosis. Treatment is often 
  prompted 
  by depression associated with dissolved cult relationships and/or by family 
  and 
  friends who notice their overbearing harassing behavior on spiritual online 
  portals.
  
  Treatment
  Because of the lack of research support for work on personality disorders 
  and 
  long-term treatment with psychotherapy, the empirical findings on the 
  treatment 
  of these disorders remain based on the case report method and not on 
  clinical 
  trials.
  
  Dr. Ravi Yogi, the pioneer in SPC recommends the following.
  
  * Schema Therapy
  * Cognitive behavioral therapy
  * Dr. Ravi Yogi's TTWFAR Therapy (TTWFAR - Taking the world for a 
  ride™)
  
  References
  1. Dr. Ravi Yogi (formerly Ravi Chivukula), Psy.D, U.C Berkeley is one 
  of the 
  leading researchers of SPC and is lobbying to include SPC in DSM V - 
  Diagnostic 
  and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) the fifth edition.
  2. See Histrionic Personality Disorder
  3. Frederick Lenz, former Cult leader on Amazon
  4. Seekers, Gurus, SPC and the rise of Skeptic Gurus by Dr. Ravi Yogi, 
  Psy.D, 
  U.C Berkeley
  5. Schema Therapy
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Tell

2011-01-10 Thread PaliGap


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 Right wingers are falling all over themselves saying, It's not my fault, the 
 crazy guy is responsible for shooting people. Even if NOT directly accused, 
 they're busily scrubbing websites, saying Loughner was a lefty, gun-sight 
 cross-hairs were surveyor's cross-hairs, and Sheriff Dupnik who never says 
 right-wing vitriol or conservative hate speech — or even mentioned Faux 
 News or El Rushbo gets accused of stirring more vitriol when he simply called 
 for more civility. The right wing certainly acts like they own it. What say 
 you?
 
 http://tinyurl.com/479c3l8
 http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/10/early-morning-swim-fox-news-megyn-kelly-browbeats-arizona-sheriff-for-speaking-out-against-vitriolic-rhetoric/


Just a drive by post...

Even progressives succumb to casual hate-speech.

I know this might seem to be from far-away Brit land,
but George Monbiot is a VERY important player in the
climate debate globally. He (and the Guardian) are on
the side of what many here would take a priori to be
the goodies.

So what do we say we about this kind of hate-speech?

Every time someone dies as a result of floods in
Bangladesh, an airline executive should be dragged
out of his office and drowned.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/dec/05/comment.politics

Just recently the coldest December in the UK for around
100 years caused widespread travel chaos, especially for
those trying to fly. Imagine, in the light of Monbiot's
comment, if some deranged loonie had had a pop at an
airline boss! Say Richard Branson...

In my view intemperance is all bad - but it's not 
always owned by the Right is it? Or in the US of A
is it really divided up cleanly and simply between
goodiea and baddies on right/left (progressive) lines?











[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread WillyTex
  Small Penis Disorder
 
Sal:
 Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
 
4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw 
by stopping to respond and adopting a holier-than-thou 
attitude.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Naked Passion

2011-01-10 Thread RoryGoff
Actually, Buck, I was saying that the Buck stops here, in Us: not out there 
in Turq, or Vaj, or whoever else appears to be bringing up dissonance or pain 
in our awareness. 

In this respect, Turq, Vaj, et al. are in this moment our greatest teachers, 
inadvertent or not, as they are pointing out areas of pain in Us which need our 
unconditional Love and awareness to heal.

*Love*Light*Laughter* always!

:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote:
 
  In a flashback to Spain, 
 
 Dear Turqb, Rory had some excel spiritual instruction the other day here on 
 dealing with obstacles like this in the pain-body.  We know you don't get 
 along with Rory and you've said you don't read a number of us anymore here, 
 but Rory's comment from experience was quite good about this kind of 
 affliction of yours in the subtle body.  It was a pearl of wisdom.  The thing 
 of your not needing necessarily to swim in every toilet along the way and 
 then smear it over here too.
 Best Regards from FF,





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Tell

2011-01-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost...@... wrote:
snip
 In my view intemperance is all bad - but it's not 
 always owned by the Right is it? Or in the US of A
 is it really divided up cleanly and simply between
 goodiea and baddies on right/left (progressive) lines?

Intemperance--in the form of eliminationist rhetoric--
isn't owned *exclusively* by the right, but the right
owns *much more of it* than the left. It's pervasive
on the right but merely occasional on the left (in
this country, at least; can't speak for the U.K.).

Those who are doing their damndest to set up some kind
of moral equivalence tend to cherry-pick intemperate
remarks from lefty blog and news-site commenters. But
you'll rarely find it coming from pundits and
broadcasters and politicians on the left, whereas you
hear it *constantly* from pundits and broadcasters and
politicians on the right (not to mention from right-
wing commenters on blogs and news sites).

(Interestingly, awhile back a poster here--I won't
mention the name--made a suggestion startlingly
similar to that of Monbiot: that those who oppose
action to prevent global warming should be tied up
and left on the beach to be drowned by rising ocean
levels. And this poster considers himself to be a
lefty.)

That's 50 for me; see you all next week.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Naked Passion

2011-01-10 Thread RoryGoff
Actually, Buck, I am saying the Buck stops here, that is, in Us, not in Turq 
or in anyone out there. 

If Turq (or Vaj, or anyone else) is bringing up pain or dissonance in Us, then 
to me it makes the most sense to see Turq (or Vaj, etc.) as our best teacher in 
this moment, inadvertent or not, for his pointing out something in Us which 
needs our unconditional Love and attention.

*Love*Light*Laughter* always!

:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote:
 
  In a flashback to Spain, 
 
 Dear Turqb, Rory had some excel spiritual instruction the other day here on 
 dealing with obstacles like this in the pain-body.  We know you don't get 
 along with Rory and you've said you don't read a number of us anymore here, 
 but Rory's comment from experience was quite good about this kind of 
 affliction of yours in the subtle body.  It was a pearl of wisdom.  The thing 
 of your not needing necessarily to swim in every toilet along the way and 
 then smear it over here too.
 Best Regards from FF,





[FairfieldLife] Re: Naked Passion

2011-01-10 Thread yifuxero
right, they need to be nurtured.
http://www.fantasygallery.net/kolb/art_7_Jungfrau.html
...with a whole spectrum of love, sometimes toughlove. Best way to deal with 
drug cartel kingpins: shoot them dead, giving them lots of love at the same 
time.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote:

 Actually, Buck, I am saying the Buck stops here, that is, in Us, not in 
 Turq or in anyone out there. 
 
 If Turq (or Vaj, or anyone else) is bringing up pain or dissonance in Us, 
 then to me it makes the most sense to see Turq (or Vaj, etc.) as our best 
 teacher in this moment, inadvertent or not, for his pointing out something in 
 Us which needs our unconditional Love and attention.
 
 *Love*Light*Laughter* always!
 
 :-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote:
  
   In a flashback to Spain, 
  
  Dear Turqb, Rory had some excel spiritual instruction the other day here on 
  dealing with obstacles like this in the pain-body.  We know you don't get 
  along with Rory and you've said you don't read a number of us anymore here, 
  but Rory's comment from experience was quite good about this kind of 
  affliction of yours in the subtle body.  It was a pearl of wisdom.  The 
  thing of your not needing necessarily to swim in every toilet along the way 
  and then smear it over here too.
  Best Regards from FF,
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Naked Passion

2011-01-10 Thread RoryGoff
They don't need anything, as far as I can see. It is We who need the 
attention and love, if We are in pain. And again, I am advocating no particular 
action or inaction in the world; actions arise perfectly to meet the needs of 
the moment. What I am speaking of is a kind of meta-action, giving loving 
attention to our own pain to bring an end to karmic repetition and suffering, 
by transmuting all of our demons back into devotees.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:

 right, they need to be nurtured.
 http://www.fantasygallery.net/kolb/art_7_Jungfrau.html
 ...with a whole spectrum of love, sometimes toughlove. Best way to deal 
 with drug cartel kingpins: shoot them dead, giving them lots of love at the 
 same time.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  Actually, Buck, I am saying the Buck stops here, that is, in Us, not in 
  Turq or in anyone out there. 
  
  If Turq (or Vaj, or anyone else) is bringing up pain or dissonance in Us, 
  then to me it makes the most sense to see Turq (or Vaj, etc.) as our best 
  teacher in this moment, inadvertent or not, for his pointing out something 
  in Us which needs our unconditional Love and attention.
  
  *Love*Light*Laughter* always!
  
  :-)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote:
   
In a flashback to Spain, 
   
   Dear Turqb, Rory had some excel spiritual instruction the other day here 
   on dealing with obstacles like this in the pain-body.  We know you don't 
   get along with Rory and you've said you don't read a number of us anymore 
   here, but Rory's comment from experience was quite good about this kind 
   of affliction of yours in the subtle body.  It was a pearl of wisdom.  
   The thing of your not needing necessarily to swim in every toilet along 
   the way and then smear it over here too.
   Best Regards from FF,
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread tartbrain

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviy...@... wrote:

 
 Dear tartbrain,
 
 Thank you, I was feeling very depressed, lonely and downright needy. I knew I 
 could count on your love, kindness and support.
 
 You have literally saved a life by responding !! May God bless you !!!
I thought your piece was clever, well researched, and well done. While I 
chuckled, I also thought whats the point? why not use such cleverness for 
dissolving boundaries, not creating them. It was more a message to myself than 
to you. I am not immune to attempting creative dings, but I ask my self, whats 
the point.

Besides, Turq is a national treasure. Though its tough sometimes to figure out 
which nation he is a treasure of -- being that he adheres to the vedic, 
christian and buddhist ideal that the world is my home.

And dick size is so arbitrary. Anyone can perform the great tapas of some 
indian sadhus who tie heavy weights to such and let it seek infinite size.   


 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote:
 
  OK. And how does that make you feel?
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
  
   Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I 
   would 
   really appreciate your input and blessings. 
   
   
   Thank you,
   
   Much Love - Ravi Yogi
   
   Anatomy of the Turqster
   
   Small Penis Disorder
   
   Small Penis Complex (SPC) or Small Penis disorder(SPD) has been defined 
   by Dr. 
   Ravi Yogi [1], Psy.D, U.C Berkeley as a personality disorder 
   characterized by a 
   pattern of behavior that includes extreme grief, panic triggered by 
   references 
   to any spiritual experience that gives the person a huge inferiority 
   complex and 
   results in the person spending their entire time in various online 
   spiritual 
   chat groups trying to harass and hound believers. They try convince the 
   believers of their false freedom and happiness that purportedly had 
   arisen from 
   their philosophy of no practice or atheistic non-spiritual practices.
   
   Characteristics
   People with small penis disorder usually have good verbal and 
   interpersonal 
   skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and 
   become 
   the center of attention [2]. People with SPC exhibit most or all of the 
   following symptoms
   
 1. Predominantly spend their time in spiritual online chat circles.
 2. Display extreme sensitivity to any spiritual experiences or altered 
   states 
   of consciousness achieved through meditation, yoga.
 3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative or one-sided 
   portrayals of 
   religion.
 4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw by stopping to 
   respond 
   and adopting a holier-than-thou attitude.
 5. Strong dislike of authority and morals, and react by accusations of 
   fear and 
   retribution on people who display humility and respect of authority and 
   morals.
 6. Demand scientific proof of mystical experiences and berate 
   subjective 
   experiences while having no qualms about using their subjective 
   experiences in 
   other matters.
 7. Constantly remind everyone of their projected freedom and happiness 
   achieved 
   through no practice practice which could include references to 
   atheism, 
   Neo-Advaita and Neo-Buddhist practices.
 8. Exhibitionist behavior and a need to be the center of attention.
   
   Causes
   The cause of this disorder is known to be caused by involvement in 
   religious 
   cults [3]. The scars and trauma of being manipulated, rejected and 
   isolated in 
   cults is known to be affect some to develop full blown symptoms of Small 
   Penis 
   Disorder [4].
   
   Dr. Ravi Yogi has identified by the following maladaptive schemas using 
   Dr. 
   Jeffrey Young's schema theory [5] with SPC - DEFECTIVENESS / SHAME  (DS), 
   SOCIAL 
   ISOLATION / ALIENATION   (SI), FAILURE  (FA) and/or ABANDONMENT / 
INSTABILITY   (AB).
   
   Diagnosis
   The person's behavior, history, involvement in spiritual circles 
   especially 
   their behavior of haranguing believers along with a psychological 
   evaluation, 
   are usually sufficient to establish the diagnosis. Treatment is often 
   prompted 
   by depression associated with dissolved cult relationships and/or by 
   family and 
   friends who notice their overbearing harassing behavior on spiritual 
   online 
   portals.
   
   Treatment
   Because of the lack of research support for work on personality disorders 
   and 
   long-term treatment with psychotherapy, the empirical findings on the 
   treatment 
   of these disorders remain based on the case report method and not on 
   clinical 
   trials.
   
   Dr. Ravi Yogi, the pioneer in SPC recommends the following.
   
 * Schema Therapy
 * Cognitive behavioral therapy
 * Dr. Ravi Yogi's TTWFAR Therapy (TTWFAR - Taking the world for a 
   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Naked Passion

2011-01-10 Thread yifuxero
good point; but since the Meta-Universe is holographic, whether in the 
conventional other people or in us; demonic possessions make no difference. 
If one exorcizes the demons, wherever they may be, it's all in the giant 
Hologram.
...If this were not true, doctors would be hampered in their attempts to excise 
the cancers in others.
...them, us,...it's all in the Cosmic Mandala.
http://www.fantasygallery.net/lockwood/art_3_demonclr.html


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote:

 They don't need anything, as far as I can see. It is We who need the 
 attention and love, if We are in pain. And again, I am advocating no 
 particular action or inaction in the world; actions arise perfectly to meet 
 the needs of the moment. What I am speaking of is a kind of meta-action, 
 giving loving attention to our own pain to bring an end to karmic repetition 
 and suffering, by transmuting all of our demons back into devotees.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote:
 
  right, they need to be nurtured.
  http://www.fantasygallery.net/kolb/art_7_Jungfrau.html
  ...with a whole spectrum of love, sometimes toughlove. Best way to deal 
  with drug cartel kingpins: shoot them dead, giving them lots of love at the 
  same time.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
   Actually, Buck, I am saying the Buck stops here, that is, in Us, not in 
   Turq or in anyone out there. 
   
   If Turq (or Vaj, or anyone else) is bringing up pain or dissonance in Us, 
   then to me it makes the most sense to see Turq (or Vaj, etc.) as our best 
   teacher in this moment, inadvertent or not, for his pointing out 
   something in Us which needs our unconditional Love and attention.
   
   *Love*Light*Laughter* always!
   
   :-)
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote:

 In a flashback to Spain, 

Dear Turqb, Rory had some excel spiritual instruction the other day 
here on dealing with obstacles like this in the pain-body.  We know you 
don't get along with Rory and you've said you don't read a number of us 
anymore here, but Rory's comment from experience was quite good about 
this kind of affliction of yours in the subtle body.  It was a pearl of 
wisdom.  The thing of your not needing necessarily to swim in every 
toilet along the way and then smear it over here too.
Best Regards from FF,
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly on MUM Campus

2011-01-10 Thread Rick Archer
The film was going to be shown. Official posters were up in the Student
Union. But it got cancelled, ostensibly because there was some disagreement
with the producers over how funds from such a showing were to be dispersed.



[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Ravi Yogi

Dear docwhammo,

Thank you for your resonse.


There seems to be lot of confusion in this list on my last name. I have 
clarified this several times in the past. Since you are new I don't mind 
repeating it again. My last name is spelled Y-O-G-I, but pronounced yoo-gee-oh.

Aah..I love and hate the English language..LOL..hope this clarifies everything.

Love - Ravi Yugeeoh


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, docwhammo docwha...@... wrote:

 Yogi?  as in what?  yogi bear?
 
 Wow, what a forum
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
  really appreciate your input and blessings. 
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Congresswoman shot in Arizona

2011-01-10 Thread Bhairitu
I often don't understand why companies want to locate in SF because of 
the much higher rent.  It must be for the prestige.  Office space is 
much cheaper around other parts of the Bay Area.  I  had an unsolicited 
offer to apply for a gig at a smart phone company that was adding 
Android to their line up.  It was in a very nice part of town and yes 
their offices were actually there (instead of it being a rented mail 
box).  The position was a little junior for me and also I wouldn't like 
the commute anyway.

On 01/09/2011 03:11 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
 If I have to, I'll use a garage. When I worked in the City, it was costing me 
 240/mo. for a parking space, and that was a few years ago. Other than that I 
 go to areas like GG park where I've got my favorite places to park.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozg...@...  wrote:
 How do you find parking in SF?  I always think they ought to rename the
 city no parking.  Hence I almost NEVER go there.  In fact most folks
 who live in the East Bay never like to cross that bridge. :-D


 On 01/09/2011 01:40 PM, whynotnow7 wrote:
 All sounds great - Because of the hills in SF, I find going to  Chinatown 
 is the closest to visiting Hong Kong without going there. Every time I 
 drive up to SF it is an adventure. The Bay Area too is so full of micro 
 environments that you can easily experience whatever you want here, coast, 
 rural, urban, mountains.






[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Ravi Yogi
Dear Sally,

Thank you for your input, I'm humbled and touched by your loving guidance. I 
know I behave like a petulant child (I'm sure this can be classified as some 
disorder , I would love your input here, banking on your wisdom and equanimity 
here).

Since you love and admire Uncle Barry so much can you please suggest an 
alternative name for this disorder so we don't violate the rules? I had a 
fallout with Uncle Barry, though I love him so much (I still read every email 
of his - is this an obsession of mine?), he never responds to me anymore which 
makes me sad, lonely and depressed :-(

Love - Ravi Yogi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:

 On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:38 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
 
  Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
  really appreciate your input and blessings. 
 
  Thank you,
  
  Much Love - Ravi Yogi
  
  Anatomy of the Turqster
  
  Small Penis Disorder
 
 Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
 If it doesn't, I would wonder what does.
 
 Sal





[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Ravi Yogi

Dear tartbrain,

You have made 2 excellent observations

Why not use the cleverness for dissolving boundaries?

I have come to realize that intellect is a whore, it can only be used to 
analyze, dissect and divide. Though it has a great practical utility it cannot 
be used to dissolve boundaries - however it can help you to reach to the verge 
of realizing the futility of using intellect to dissolve boundaries which 
itself is a great achievement. I have decided to use my intellect like a car, 
never again will I let it deceive me.

What is the point?
I asked this myself several times. I have reached to a state that I never 
imagined was possible, I felt  I had nothing left to do now. So I got depressed 
for a while constantly asking myself - what now. Then I realized I let my 
mind deceive myself and that the whole world is just a leela - a divine play 
and I just promised myself to just be playful and have fun. Meaning can only be 
attributed to practical things like a car or a house and not to existence or 
life, it is just meant to be enjoyed. So there is no point!!!

Though I pick on Barry I have nothing against him, I know I need to be careful 
with my choice of words but then I'm really not serious.

Love - Ravi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  
  Dear tartbrain,
  
  Thank you, I was feeling very depressed, lonely and downright needy. I knew 
  I could count on your love, kindness and support.
  
  You have literally saved a life by responding !! May God bless you !!!
 I thought your piece was clever, well researched, and well done. While I 
 chuckled, I also thought whats the point? why not use such cleverness for 
 dissolving boundaries, not creating them. It was more a message to myself 
 than to you. I am not immune to attempting creative dings, but I ask my self, 
 whats the point.
 
 Besides, Turq is a national treasure. Though its tough sometimes to figure 
 out which nation he is a treasure of -- being that he adheres to the vedic, 
 christian and buddhist ideal that the world is my home.
 
 And dick size is so arbitrary. Anyone can perform the great tapas of some 
 indian sadhus who tie heavy weights to such and let it seek infinite size.   
 
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote:
  
   OK. And how does that make you feel?
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
   
Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I 
would 
really appreciate your input and blessings. 


Thank you,

Much Love - Ravi Yogi

Anatomy of the Turqster

Small Penis Disorder

Small Penis Complex (SPC) or Small Penis disorder(SPD) has been defined 
by Dr. 
Ravi Yogi [1], Psy.D, U.C Berkeley as a personality disorder 
characterized by a 
pattern of behavior that includes extreme grief, panic triggered by 
references 
to any spiritual experience that gives the person a huge inferiority 
complex and 
results in the person spending their entire time in various online 
spiritual 
chat groups trying to harass and hound believers. They try convince the 
believers of their false freedom and happiness that purportedly had 
arisen from 
their philosophy of no practice or atheistic non-spiritual practices.

Characteristics
People with small penis disorder usually have good verbal and 
interpersonal 
skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people 
and become 
the center of attention [2]. People with SPC exhibit most or all of the 
following symptoms

1. Predominantly spend their time in spiritual online chat 
circles.
2. Display extreme sensitivity to any spiritual experiences or 
altered states 
of consciousness achieved through meditation, yoga.
3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative or 
one-sided portrayals of 
religion.
4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw by 
stopping to respond 
and adopting a holier-than-thou attitude.
5. Strong dislike of authority and morals, and react by 
accusations of fear and 
retribution on people who display humility and respect of authority and 
morals.
6. Demand scientific proof of mystical experiences and berate 
subjective 
experiences while having no qualms about using their subjective 
experiences in 
other matters.
7. Constantly remind everyone of their projected freedom and 
happiness achieved 
through no practice practice which could include references to 
atheism, 
Neo-Advaita and Neo-Buddhist practices.
8. Exhibitionist behavior and a need to be the center of 
attention.

Causes
The cause of this disorder is known 

[FairfieldLife] MAHARISHIJIS BIRTHDAY

2011-01-10 Thread merlin
 
 
January 12 Celebration
 
on Wednesday, January 12, 2011
9:40 AM Holland time -  2:40 AM US CT
Celebrations start with Rahstriya Gita followed by global Puja to Guru Dev, 
recitation by the Maharishi Vedic Pandits at the Brahmasthan of India and the 
Brahmasthan of Maharishi’s PeacePalace in MERU, and the keynote address for the 
year by Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam, First Ruler of the Global Country of World 
Peace. 
There will also  be an afternoon session with reports from leaders of 
Maharishi’s organisation around the world.
 
Please check this page again for replay times
 
http://www.maharishichannel.in/SCHEDULE/index.html
 
 
          Jai  Guru  Dev      
 



[FairfieldLife] Catechism R' Us as Parrot food

2011-01-10 Thread Yifu Xero
Re: Statement about Parrot food (did I spell that correctly?). Anyway, this 
type 
of input can be of worth.  The fact that it comes from a parrot doesn't equate 
(in all instances) to a devalued benefit.  In fact, the benefits of TM are 
enhanced by a succession of Gurus repeating the same rituals and mantras in a 
parrot-like fashion, from Guru to disciple without much change.
...
The changeless character of the rituals and mantras going back centuries or 
millenia acts to enhance the Shakti level. (Gregorian chants for example).
Also, the fact that parts of the religious aspect accompanying techniques may 
be 
purely mythological likewise, may be irrelevant insofar as acting as a vehicle 
for Shakti.



  

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Alex Stanley
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:26 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

 

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:

 On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:38 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
 
  Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I
would really appreciate your input and blessings. 
 
  Thank you,
  
  Much Love - Ravi Yogi
  
  Anatomy of the Turqster
  
  Small Penis Disorder
 
 Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
 If it doesn't, I would wonder what does.

Trollish dumbassery that happens to contain the word 'penis' is not what I
would define as pornography. As I understand it, what would make Yahoo
classify FFL as an adult group (which is what we're trying to avoid and the
reason why we have the porno rule) is the posting of pornographic imagery.
Ravi's post did not contain any images or links to images. It also contained
no written descriptions of sexual acts or other overt sexual vulgarity,
which, as I recall, got some troll in a bit of hot water with Rick a while
back. As always, Rick has the final say, but I don't see Ravi's post as
being in violation of FFL rules.

I agree. It's a parody, written to appear as a scientific paper. Many
genuine scientific papers contain the word penis and aren't pornographic.
Others use that word here, or vulgar synonyms of it, and still don't cross
the line. So I don't have a problem with Ravi's post.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Naked Passion

2011-01-10 Thread tartbrain

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff roryg...@... wrote:

 They don't need anything, as far as I can see. It is We who need the 
 attention and love, if We are in pain. And again, I am advocating no 
 particular action or inaction in the world; actions arise perfectly to meet 
 the needs of the moment. What I am speaking of is a kind of meta-action, 
 giving loving attention to our own pain to bring an end to karmic repetition 
 and suffering, by transmuting all of our demons back into devotees.

Better yet, or as a sequence, to let everything be absorbed into the Bliss Body.

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote:
 
  right, they need to be nurtured.
  http://www.fantasygallery.net/kolb/art_7_Jungfrau.html
  ...with a whole spectrum of love, sometimes toughlove. Best way to deal 
  with drug cartel kingpins: shoot them dead, giving them lots of love at the 
  same time.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
   Actually, Buck, I am saying the Buck stops here, that is, in Us, not in 
   Turq or in anyone out there. 
   
   If Turq (or Vaj, or anyone else) is bringing up pain or dissonance in Us, 
   then to me it makes the most sense to see Turq (or Vaj, etc.) as our best 
   teacher in this moment, inadvertent or not, for his pointing out 
   something in Us which needs our unconditional Love and attention.
   
   *Love*Light*Laughter* always!
   
   :-)
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote:

 In a flashback to Spain, 

Dear Turqb, Rory had some excel spiritual instruction the other day 
here on dealing with obstacles like this in the pain-body.  We know you 
don't get along with Rory and you've said you don't read a number of us 
anymore here, but Rory's comment from experience was quite good about 
this kind of affliction of yours in the subtle body.  It was a pearl of 
wisdom.  The thing of your not needing necessarily to swim in every 
toilet along the way and then smear it over here too.
Best Regards from FF,
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Why the Banksters liked the weekend's top story

2011-01-10 Thread Bhairitu
In case you missed it on Friday the Supreme Judicial Court of 
Massachusetts ruled to void the seizure of two homes by Wells Fargo and 
US Bankcorp.  This brings into question thousands of foreclosures across 
the land and the ability of people to keep their homes until this mess 
is sorted out.  Problem is many banks don't often have the title on the 
home so their claims are fraudulent.  Undoubtedly many a bankster might 
have been happy that story got buried with the weekend massacre.  We 
need to make sure the public knows this ruling came down:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/40969628/Massachusetts_High_Court_Slams_Banks_on_Mortgage_Foreclosures



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 10, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

 I agree. It’s a parody, written to appear as a scientific paper. Many genuine 
 scientific papers contain the word “penis” and aren’t pornographic. Others 
 use that word here, or vulgar synonyms of it, and still don’t cross the line. 
 So I don’t have a problem with Ravi’s post.

Rick, I don't have any objection to the word either, of course.
It was the semi-pornographic imagery along with the 
personal attack that I felt crossed the line.

Then again, I didn't read the whole thing either.
Sal





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Tell

2011-01-10 Thread Bhairitu
On 01/10/2011 10:43 AM, PaliGap wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydograunchy...@...  wrote:
 Right wingers are falling all over themselves saying, It's not my fault, 
 the crazy guy is responsible for shooting people. Even if NOT directly 
 accused, they're busily scrubbing websites, saying Loughner was a lefty, 
 gun-sight cross-hairs were surveyor's cross-hairs, and Sheriff Dupnik who 
 never says right-wing vitriol or conservative hate speech — or even 
 mentioned Faux News or El Rushbo gets accused of stirring more vitriol when 
 he simply called for more civility. The right wing certainly acts like they 
 own it. What say you?

 http://tinyurl.com/479c3l8
 http://firedoglake.com/2011/01/10/early-morning-swim-fox-news-megyn-kelly-browbeats-arizona-sheriff-for-speaking-out-against-vitriolic-rhetoric/

 Just a drive by post...

 Even progressives succumb to casual hate-speech.

 I know this might seem to be from far-away Brit land,
 but George Monbiot is a VERY important player in the
 climate debate globally. He (and the Guardian) are on
 the side of what many here would take a priori to be
 the goodies.

 So what do we say we about this kind of hate-speech?

 Every time someone dies as a result of floods in
 Bangladesh, an airline executive should be dragged
 out of his office and drowned.

 http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/dec/05/comment.politics

 Just recently the coldest December in the UK for around
 100 years caused widespread travel chaos, especially for
 those trying to fly. Imagine, in the light of Monbiot's
 comment, if some deranged loonie had had a pop at an
 airline boss! Say Richard Branson...

I'm surprised that executives haven't been the target of loonies. The 
loonies seem to often be misdirected to the government rather than the 
owners. I don't think if a bankster got knocked off you'd see a nation 
mourning though. Block parties maybe especially in areas of high 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread Ravi Yogi



Dear wgm4u,

Well my research has shown that it's not about the physical size but the mental 
perception of it. However he is welcome to submit his size, I think it does add 
a new exciting dimension to this research and I look forward to working with 
him on this!!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wg...@... wrote:

 Turq_Please don't submit the size of your penis! :-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
 
  Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I would 
  really appreciate your input and blessings. 
  
  
  Thank you,
  
  Much Love - Ravi Yogi
  
  Anatomy of the Turqster
  
  Small Penis Disorder
  
  Small Penis Complex (SPC) or Small Penis disorder(SPD) has been defined by 
  Dr. 
  Ravi Yogi [1], Psy.D, U.C Berkeley as a personality disorder characterized 
  by a 
  pattern of behavior that includes extreme grief, panic triggered by 
  references 
  to any spiritual experience that gives the person a huge inferiority 
  complex and 
  results in the person spending their entire time in various online 
  spiritual 
  chat groups trying to harass and hound believers. They try convince the 
  believers of their false freedom and happiness that purportedly had arisen 
  from 
  their philosophy of no practice or atheistic non-spiritual practices.
  
  Characteristics
  People with small penis disorder usually have good verbal and interpersonal 
  skills, but they tend to use these skills to manipulate other people and 
  become 
  the center of attention [2]. People with SPC exhibit most or all of the 
  following symptoms
  
  1. Predominantly spend their time in spiritual online chat circles.
  2. Display extreme sensitivity to any spiritual experiences or altered 
  states 
  of consciousness achieved through meditation, yoga.
  3. Constantly bombard others with extremely negative or one-sided 
  portrayals of 
  religion.
  4. Follow an aggressive strategy of attack and withdraw by stopping to 
  respond 
  and adopting a holier-than-thou attitude.
  5. Strong dislike of authority and morals, and react by accusations of 
  fear and 
  retribution on people who display humility and respect of authority and 
  morals.
  6. Demand scientific proof of mystical experiences and berate 
  subjective 
  experiences while having no qualms about using their subjective experiences 
  in 
  other matters.
  7. Constantly remind everyone of their projected freedom and happiness 
  achieved 
  through no practice practice which could include references to atheism, 
  Neo-Advaita and Neo-Buddhist practices.
  8. Exhibitionist behavior and a need to be the center of attention.
  
  Causes
  The cause of this disorder is known to be caused by involvement in 
  religious 
  cults [3]. The scars and trauma of being manipulated, rejected and isolated 
  in 
  cults is known to be affect some to develop full blown symptoms of Small 
  Penis 
  Disorder [4].
  
  Dr. Ravi Yogi has identified by the following maladaptive schemas using Dr. 
  Jeffrey Young's schema theory [5] with SPC - DEFECTIVENESS / SHAME  (DS), 
  SOCIAL 
  ISOLATION / ALIENATION   (SI), FAILURE  (FA) and/or ABANDONMENT / 
   INSTABILITY   (AB).
  
  Diagnosis
  The person's behavior, history, involvement in spiritual circles especially 
  their behavior of haranguing believers along with a psychological 
  evaluation, 
  are usually sufficient to establish the diagnosis. Treatment is often 
  prompted 
  by depression associated with dissolved cult relationships and/or by family 
  and 
  friends who notice their overbearing harassing behavior on spiritual online 
  portals.
  
  Treatment
  Because of the lack of research support for work on personality disorders 
  and 
  long-term treatment with psychotherapy, the empirical findings on the 
  treatment 
  of these disorders remain based on the case report method and not on 
  clinical 
  trials.
  
  Dr. Ravi Yogi, the pioneer in SPC recommends the following.
  
  * Schema Therapy
  * Cognitive behavioral therapy
  * Dr. Ravi Yogi's TTWFAR Therapy (TTWFAR - Taking the world for a 
  ride™)
  
  References
  1. Dr. Ravi Yogi (formerly Ravi Chivukula), Psy.D, U.C Berkeley is one 
  of the 
  leading researchers of SPC and is lobbying to include SPC in DSM V - 
  Diagnostic 
  and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) the fifth edition.
  2. See Histrionic Personality Disorder
  3. Frederick Lenz, former Cult leader on Amazon
  4. Seekers, Gurus, SPC and the rise of Skeptic Gurus by Dr. Ravi Yogi, 
  Psy.D, 
  U.C Berkeley
  5. Schema Therapy
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread docwhammo
aint no motherfuckin games, homeboy!  

hol up - ima get my motherfuckin pistol.  dont hit reset that shit is warped 
model of reality, no consequences and all that

plus the world is going to hell in a handbasket, so ima stuff my sorrys in a 
sack - got it for .99 at walmart... 

always low prices - walmart  because its made in a sweat shop!!  we need to 
nuke china immediately before they destroy the planet, im telling you man 

Nuclear war - mothers love it, kids ask for it by name! ... no more ovaltine 
for you, pinko commie scum!




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 Hey, as long as you ain't buyin' a mantra, it's cheap entertainment.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread yifuxero
Brilliant, a hair raising post! I'm forwarding to N. Korea and Iran.
http://www.startlingart.com/Viewer.asp?ImageSource=fine_artFileName=ifthoughtscouldkill

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, docwhammo docwha...@... wrote:

 aint no motherfuckin games, homeboy!  
 
 hol up - ima get my motherfuckin pistol.  dont hit reset that shit is 
 warped model of reality, no consequences and all that
 
 plus the world is going to hell in a handbasket, so ima stuff my sorrys in a 
 sack - got it for .99 at walmart... 
 
 always low prices - walmart  because its made in a sweat shop!!  we need to 
 nuke china immediately before they destroy the planet, im telling you man 
 
 Nuclear war - mothers love it, kids ask for it by name! ... no more 
 ovaltine for you, pinko commie scum!
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  
  Hey, as long as you ain't buyin' a mantra, it's cheap entertainment.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Catechism 'R Us

2011-01-10 Thread docwhammo
ho yifuxero

i dont think forwarding is nearly enough, they have firewalls to prevent that 
sort of email.. what you need to do is cook up a virus that penetrates the root 
level encryption of each and every system on the globe, so you can start 
recruiting an army of zombie computers to do your bidding.. then, one day...  

...


...


wait for it...


...


WHAMMO!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:

 Brilliant, a hair raising post! I'm forwarding to N. Korea and Iran.
 http://www.startlingart.com/Viewer.asp?ImageSource=fine_artFileName=ifthoughtscouldkill
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, docwhammo docwhammo@ wrote:
 
  aint no motherfuckin games, homeboy!  
  
  hol up - ima get my motherfuckin pistol.  dont hit reset that shit is 
  warped model of reality, no consequences and all that
  
  plus the world is going to hell in a handbasket, so ima stuff my sorrys in 
  a sack - got it for .99 at walmart... 
  
  always low prices - walmart  because its made in a sweat shop!!  we need 
  to nuke china immediately before they destroy the planet, im telling you 
  man 
  
  Nuclear war - mothers love it, kids ask for it by name! ... no more 
  ovaltine for you, pinko commie scum!
  
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   
   Hey, as long as you ain't buyin' a mantra, it's cheap entertainment.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] I'M NOT A PART OF YOUR SYSTEM!

2011-01-10 Thread docwhammo
http://www.hulu.com/watch/99944/saturday-night-live-snl-digital-short-on-the-ground



[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread whynotnow7
Uncle Barry...never responds to me anymore

I noticed today too that among us regulars, his group he will not interact with 
anymore here on FFL is larger than the one he interacts with. He holds that 
unique distinction among those here. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviy...@... wrote:

 Dear Sally,
 
 Thank you for your input, I'm humbled and touched by your loving guidance. I 
 know I behave like a petulant child (I'm sure this can be classified as some 
 disorder , I would love your input here, banking on your wisdom and 
 equanimity here).
 
 Since you love and admire Uncle Barry so much can you please suggest an 
 alternative name for this disorder so we don't violate the rules? I had a 
 fallout with Uncle Barry, though I love him so much (I still read every email 
 of his - is this an obsession of mine?), he never responds to me anymore 
 which makes me sad, lonely and depressed :-(
 
 Love - Ravi Yogi
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
 
  On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:38 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
  
   Hi everyone, here's a research article that I have been working on. I 
   would really appreciate your input and blessings. 
  
   Thank you,
   
   Much Love - Ravi Yogi
   
   Anatomy of the Turqster
   
   Small Penis Disorder
  
  Uh, Rick, Alex~~doesn't this violate the porno rule?
  If it doesn't, I would wonder what does.
  
  Sal
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: My research article

2011-01-10 Thread whynotnow7
It was the semi-pornographic imagery (wrt Ravi's research article)

Sal, what on earth are you referring to? I missed this in his spoof the first 
time I read it, or so I thought, and just now went back and couldn't find 
anything including in all of his Wikipedia links, that comes remotely close to 
what you are claiming - have you read the definition of pornography? 

I mentioned turquoiseb's similar imagery earlier, which was at least as graphic 
as anything in Ravi's post. If you want to ban people using this type of 
language, why not be fair about it?  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:

 On Jan 10, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
  I agree. It's a parody, written to appear as a scientific paper. Many 
  genuine scientific papers contain the word penis and aren't pornographic. 
  Others use that word here, or vulgar synonyms of it, and still don't cross 
  the line. So I don't have a problem with Ravi's post.
 
 Rick, I don't have any objection to the word either, of course.
 It was the semi-pornographic imagery along with the 
 personal attack that I felt crossed the line.
 
 Then again, I didn't read the whole thing either.
 Sal





[FairfieldLife] Some devotees of Ramana Maharshi

2011-01-10 Thread yifuxero
http://www.premanandasatsang.org
http://www.myajjia.org
http://www.brahmam.net
http://www.arshavidya.in
http://www.rameshbalsekar.com
http://www.srinannaguru.com
http://www.purnavidya.org
http://www.samdarshi.com
http://www.anandashram.org
http://www.selfknowledge.in
http://www.sriramanamaharshi.org
...
from Blueprints for Awakening, Open Sky press.
...
http://www.fantasygallery.net/goldhawk/art_5_surf.html



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