[FairfieldLife] A veritable *demonstration* of intellectual dishonesty
Now that we've managed to tweak the Judy Wind-Up Doll to the point that she's already pissed away a quarter of her posts for this coming week in the first four hours of the posting week :-), let's put her whole performance this past week into some perspective, shall we? What wound her up was me posting some FACTS -- in his own words -- about her fantasy boyfriend Robin Carlsen in response to Card's post of Clinton looking into the camera and telling the American public, I did NOT have sex with that woman. That struck me as a *perfect* parallel to what Robin did with the I did NOT strike my students routine that backfired on him so badly. Robin, trying to make Vaj's claims go away, homed in on a Judy Steinian nitpick and took advantage of the phrase during a seminar to deny that he had ever struck his students. In the course of doing this, he used phrases like, this is not something I would have done and I never once struck someone on stage. He was clearly using the nitpick of during a seminar to LIE, and claim he had *never* struck his students, using the same equivocal trick that Clinton was trying to use by relying on a subjective, self-serving definition of sex that did not include blowjobs to LIE about Monica Lewinsky. Judy Stein, self-appointed hall monitor of honesty on Fairfield Life, sees nothing wrong with this. And the thing is, Robin was even lying about THAT, the nitpick, as Judy herself admits in a later post. She says that Ann did not join Robin's cult until after the public seminars had started, but then says that *even she* witnessed Robin striking someone during one of them. So there is no *question* about it -- Robin was LYING. And to Judy Stein, that's just FINE. The only problem that she sees with any of this is that a few people on this forum are persecuting him by pointing out that he LIED. It seems to me that this exercise in making excuses for someone she's got a crush on has demonstrated once and for all WHO it is on this forum who exemplifies intellectual dishonesty. It's JUDY STEIN. She -- the person who has hurled the epithet LIAR! more times than anyone in the history of FFL -- is willing to defend someone who even *she* has to admit was LYING, just because she's got a crush on him. If that's not intellectual dishonesty, I don't know what is. Now we know why she can look into the camera and say, I did NOT comment on a film I had never seen and imply that if Barry says so, he's LYING. Same phenomenon -- intellectual dishonesty.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption
Mike, You sound like Qoheleth from the Old Testament. But for now, the Vatican must weed out the Curia of its bad apples. It sounds like there's a sinister group of people that's controlling the pulse of the Roman Catholic Church. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Whited Sepulchers, all clean and white on the outside and nothing but dead men's bones and all corruption inside. Nothing new under the sun From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption  He tried to bring in millions of euros in cash from Switzerland without going through customs. Further investigation of this case could disclose many ugly details. One wonders how many mistresses this crook is keeping by stealing from the church coffers. This is a case of Jupiter turning into a malefic. When it does, it steals millions through organized crime. http://news.yahoo.com/vatican-official-arrested-corruption-plot-075720910.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Mike, You sound like Qoheleth from the Old Testament. ??You mean like: havel havelim, omar kohelet, havel havelim. hakol havel!
[FairfieldLife] The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
One of my good friends in Santa Fe was a psychiatrist who had, over the course of his career, treated many individuals suffering from Naricissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). When I met him, he had already given up on psychiatric treatment, having been convinced over the course of 20+ years that the condition was untreatable. But knowing of my interest in the subject (caused by having studied with at least two NPD spiritual teachers), he was willing to talk with me about his experiences back when he *was* treating NPD, and some of the conclusions he had drawn from those experiences. One of these conclusions seems relevant to recent events on FFL, so I'll rap about it a little. The symptom he spoke of as the #1 tip-off that he was dealing with someone with NPD was what he called blame displacement. To explain a bit, NPD sufferers live in an illusory/delusory world inside their own heads; they rarely, if ever, interact with reality as it is seen by other people. Subjectivity rules for the NPD individual, and they tend to sincerely believe that how they see the world *equates* to how the world is. So it is often a SHOCK to them when someone calls them on their own antisocial or unethical behavior. According to my friend the shrink, their *first* impulse at that point is to DENY it. They cannot accept that the view of them being proposed by this other person could be correct, because it contradicts their own internal, subjective view of themselves. Their *second* impulse is to attempt to SHIFT THE BLAME for these contradictory views of themselves. They call the person criticizing them or their behavior liars, and furthermore (and this is the tip-off) claim that the critic *does not even believe what they are saying*, and that they are *consciously* lying about them in an attempt to get them. Now think back to recent discussions about what Robin did when Vaj pointed out that Robin had struck his students. First he DENIED it vociferously, lying through his teeth the whole time. But second, he attempted to SHIFT THE BLAME, and portray Vaj as the Bad Guy In This Scenario, claiming that *he* was lying, and claiming furthermore than Vaj even knew that he was lying. Classic NPD behavior. Next, think about Judy Stein, and her well-established patterns on this forum. When faced with a critic -- someone who calls her on her behavior in a way that contradicts her internal view of who she is and what she's doing -- her first impulse is to DENY the behavior. But her second is *almost always* to attempt to SHIFT THE BLAME and claim that the critic is not only lying, but *consciously* lying, and doesn't really believe the thing he or she is saying about her. Again, classic NPD behavior. We really DO believe the things we say about you, Judy. Your inability to comprehend or accept this is based on your own disability -- Narcissistic Peronsality Disorder -- not on some superior insight or intuition or seeing. You cannot accept that we *really* see you this way because it so strongly contradicts your view of yourself. This is called Narcissism. *Six and a half years* after you made your Mel Gibson, Christian bigot post, you *still* cannot bring yourself to say, OK, I did it. I commented on a film I'd never seen. You *still* have to equivocate, and pretend not only that it never happened, but that Barry is lying about it happening. It happened. The proof is here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 ), and it's incontrovertible. How do you explain your inability to admit it *except* as an indicator of Narcissistic Personality Disorder? We'll wait...
[FairfieldLife] Barry's blindness to his faults [Re: The #1 Symptom]
I am not defending Robin, but displacement of blame is something you *always* do - it is your life's motto. I've never known someone who constantly bitches about so many faults in the world, while absolutely blind to his own. You must be the guy no one wants to sit next to, at dinner parties. Mr. Downer. One of a kind, Little Barry. So, a pretty piss poor way, in your case, of pointing the finger at someone else. Also, I almost feel I know this shrink from Santa Fe, because you trot him out, every time you want to dump on someone, in some pseudo-scientific way. I personally rate your post, VL, for *Very Lame*. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: One of my good friends in Santa Fe was a psychiatrist who had, over the course of his career, treated many individuals suffering from Naricissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). When I met him, he had already given up on psychiatric treatment, having been convinced over the course of 20+ years that the condition was untreatable. But knowing of my interest in the subject (caused by having studied with at least two NPD spiritual teachers), he was willing to talk with me about his experiences back when he *was* treating NPD, and some of the conclusions he had drawn from those experiences. One of these conclusions seems relevant to recent events on FFL, so I'll rap about it a little. The symptom he spoke of as the #1 tip-off that he was dealing with someone with NPD was what he called blame displacement. To explain a bit, NPD sufferers live in an illusory/delusory world inside their own heads; they rarely, if ever, interact with reality as it is seen by other people. Subjectivity rules for the NPD individual, and they tend to sincerely believe that how they see the world *equates* to how the world is. So it is often a SHOCK to them when someone calls them on their own antisocial or unethical behavior. According to my friend the shrink, their *first* impulse at that point is to DENY it. They cannot accept that the view of them being proposed by this other person could be correct, because it contradicts their own internal, subjective view of themselves. Their *second* impulse is to attempt to SHIFT THE BLAME for these contradictory views of themselves. They call the person criticizing them or their behavior liars, and furthermore (and this is the tip-off) claim that the critic *does not even believe what they are saying*, and that they are *consciously* lying about them in an attempt to get them. Now think back to recent discussions about what Robin did when Vaj pointed out that Robin had struck his students. First he DENIED it vociferously, lying through his teeth the whole time. But second, he attempted to SHIFT THE BLAME, and portray Vaj as the Bad Guy In This Scenario, claiming that *he* was lying, and claiming furthermore than Vaj even knew that he was lying. Classic NPD behavior. Next, think about Judy Stein, and her well-established patterns on this forum. When faced with a critic -- someone who calls her on her behavior in a way that contradicts her internal view of who she is and what she's doing -- her first impulse is to DENY the behavior. But her second is *almost always* to attempt to SHIFT THE BLAME and claim that the critic is not only lying, but *consciously* lying, and doesn't really believe the thing he or she is saying about her. Again, classic NPD behavior. We really DO believe the things we say about you, Judy. Your inability to comprehend or accept this is based on your own disability -- Narcissistic Peronsality Disorder -- not on some superior insight or intuition or seeing. You cannot accept that we *really* see you this way because it so strongly contradicts your view of yourself. This is called Narcissism. *Six and a half years* after you made your Mel Gibson, Christian bigot post, you *still* cannot bring yourself to say, OK, I did it. I commented on a film I'd never seen. You *still* have to equivocate, and pretend not only that it never happened, but that Barry is lying about it happening. It happened. The proof is here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 ), and it's incontrovertible. How do you explain your inability to admit it *except* as an indicator of Narcissistic Personality Disorder? We'll wait...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
http://youtu.be/EI4mutjhwJI --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: One of my good friends in Santa Fe was a psychiatrist who had, over the course of his career, treated many individuals suffering from Naricissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). When I met him, he had already given up on psychiatric treatment, having been convinced over the course of 20+ years that the condition was untreatable. But knowing of my interest in the subject (caused by having studied with at least two NPD spiritual teachers), he was willing to talk with me about his experiences back when he *was* treating NPD, and some of the conclusions he had drawn from those experiences. One of these conclusions seems relevant to recent events on FFL, so I'll rap about it a little. The symptom he spoke of as the #1 tip-off that he was dealing with someone with NPD was what he called blame displacement. To explain a bit, NPD sufferers live in an illusory/delusory world inside their own heads; they rarely, if ever, interact with reality as it is seen by other people. Subjectivity rules for the NPD individual, and they tend to sincerely believe that how they see the world *equates* to how the world is. So it is often a SHOCK to them when someone calls them on their own antisocial or unethical behavior. According to my friend the shrink, their *first* impulse at that point is to DENY it. They cannot accept that the view of them being proposed by this other person could be correct, because it contradicts their own internal, subjective view of themselves. Their *second* impulse is to attempt to SHIFT THE BLAME for these contradictory views of themselves. They call the person criticizing them or their behavior liars, and furthermore (and this is the tip-off) claim that the critic *does not even believe what they are saying*, and that they are *consciously* lying about them in an attempt to get them. Now think back to recent discussions about what Robin did when Vaj pointed out that Robin had struck his students. First he DENIED it vociferously, lying through his teeth the whole time. But second, he attempted to SHIFT THE BLAME, and portray Vaj as the Bad Guy In This Scenario, claiming that *he* was lying, and claiming furthermore than Vaj even knew that he was lying. Classic NPD behavior. Next, think about Judy Stein, and her well-established patterns on this forum. When faced with a critic -- someone who calls her on her behavior in a way that contradicts her internal view of who she is and what she's doing -- her first impulse is to DENY the behavior. But her second is *almost always* to attempt to SHIFT THE BLAME and claim that the critic is not only lying, but *consciously* lying, and doesn't really believe the thing he or she is saying about her. Again, classic NPD behavior. We really DO believe the things we say about you, Judy. Your inability to comprehend or accept this is based on your own disability -- Narcissistic Peronsality Disorder -- not on some superior insight or intuition or seeing. You cannot accept that we *really* see you this way because it so strongly contradicts your view of yourself. This is called Narcissism. *Six and a half years* after you made your Mel Gibson, Christian bigot post, you *still* cannot bring yourself to say, OK, I did it. I commented on a film I'd never seen. You *still* have to equivocate, and pretend not only that it never happened, but that Barry is lying about it happening. It happened. The proof is here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 ), and it's incontrovertible. How do you explain your inability to admit it *except* as an indicator of Narcissistic Personality Disorder? We'll wait...
[FairfieldLife] Raj Patel
Raj Patel on malnutrition, communism, hunger in the USA, breastfeeding, CocaCola, the Green Revolution, peasant struggle, Standard Oil Company, land reform, John Rockefeller, grass-roots-democracy, G8, decentralization, population growth, food sovereignity, amongst other things http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOa40e96Vmg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sure sounds like Robin to me...
You wear me out Ravi. Shine a different light on the whole affair and see what happens. Take it out of these tiny confines and see what the larger perspective would be. Not this would ever happen, but a better suggestion than your constant +%$@#!(#@$% mailto:#@$% .. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: What moronic stuff again. You are clueless to your contradictions, your hypocrisy, your dishonesty - no charitable stuff coming through Stevie baby. Certainly not any kind of values anywhere - this hypocrisy, this dishonesty. A classic example of what I was talking about. I had to double down on your bullshit so you could perhaps look at your hypocrisy and dishonesty, but no you said I was harsh. Of course I was harsh, I was intentionally harsh. How about Robin being labelled sociopath - was that harsh? Where's your charity that you talk about? Aligning yourself with the maliciousness of the sadist Barry and the one with the self-professed sociopathic traits - Xeno. Pathetic Stevie baby. On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:41 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: where was I? BTW, just had a delicious Caesar salad with the wife and toasted raviolis. Don't you just love it when those croutons are perfect, not really crunchy, but not too spongy either. I do. Anyway, back to the business at hand. About this American thing, Rav. What I'm saying is that growing up in the culture, we don't really feel like we always need to be proving ourselves. I think we feel pretty blessed and generally try to have a charitable attitude. You seem like you've got something to prove. Or maybe that worshipping Amma trip that got laid on you was just too much for you to handle. Anyway, it's really not that original to label people with whom you disagree as needing to be institutionalized. But if makes you feel good, by all means keep it up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Stevie's world Lying, dishonesty = Blind spots Bullying, malicious vindictiveness, assigning people labels = Difference of opinion When pointed out he says he is an American. Steve baby - you, Barry and Xeno have some psychological issues, you guys need to be drugged, institutionalized. Or you are just pathological liars. Xeno says he is sociopathic, that he lacks empathy. Barry lacks empathy, is a sadistic bully. God have mercy on your souls. On 6/28/13 4:43 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: God what silly nonsense Steve. You are so fucking moronic, clueless to how you have completely changed your tune here. No distorting the truth is not difference of opinion. I clearly showed your distortion of facts - whether it be aversion to men, or my posts on Ammachi free speech. You accused me of bullying and being an American, LOL how hilarious. No - it's not a difference of opinion. You may not be sociopathic like Xeno and Barry but you are dishonest and by clearly lack any integrity by your support of malicious, vindictive behavior of Xeno and Barry. Your behavior is sickening Steve, don't know how you function in a normal society - a lowly, superficial, inauthentic, pathetic existence indeed. Are these your American values - moronic dishonesty, malicious vindictiveness? God what a joke. On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:29 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Am I screaming loud Steve baby - what do you think about the behavior of Xeno and Barry? Is that bullying? Is that sociopathic behavior? Trying their darnedest to associate, attach a label of sociopath on Robin in spite of all the facts that are presented by Judy, Ann and I? My goodness Ravi, you really don't get it do you. And to be so scared of some kind of label!! So, let me make sure I have it straight. You are protesting that in spite of the all facts that have been presented by you and Judy and Ann, some people remain unconvinced that something about Robin is not out of whack. All I can do is apologize for that Ravi. Differences of opinion are to be expected when people come together to discuss something. This is pretty basic, but apparently lost on you. I guess that explains all your indignation. But it is fun to watch. How about screaming loud to protect someone innocent, someone being maliciously, sociopathically targeted - is that bullying? Settle down Ravi, settle down. This is what we call, in the trade, a difference of opinion. You say your mom cherished you so much that she was willing to overlook what she felt might have been your faults. This likely was a disservice on her part. Glad for reminding me you are an American, LOL, what a weird angle - trust me this online forum gives you the
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Night Sky
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thanks, Xeno, this is very cool. And just remember, Twinkies will reappear on grocer's shelf on July 15 (-: What do you think: should I see Monsters Univ or White House Down? I read (note: did not see), that Monsters Univ. was probably the least good of Pixar produced films. I know nothing of the other one. The first film, Monsters, Inc. just rocked. Very funny movie. I've only seen the first few minutes of Monsters University, and so far it hasn't struck me as being as good as the first one, but then what do I know? I'm an adult. http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2013/06/the_best_pixar_movies_as_chosen_by_children_critics_say_they_re_on_the_decline.html That said, I'm off to see Despicable Me 2, known in these parts as Moi, moche et méchant tonight. Just can't wait. Call me elitist, but some minions are definitely better than others. :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwXbtZXjbVE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption
I would love to know. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Was it Billy Clayton that got busted trying to smuggle course fees(Cash) out of Majorca to Switzerland in a suit case about '71 or '72? From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Lawson, We don't know if that is the case in Italy today. They'll have to interrogate this official to find out who ordered the operation, for what purpose, and for how long has this been going on. This case could make Dan Brown's new novel a factual tale, which I have not read yet. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: The only incident I heard of was in Spain many decades ago at a time when, if a company or organization was NOT doing that, they were plain stupid. Some countries have had a triple digit inflation rate relatively recently. Not sure if Spain was one of them, but when I was there in 1980 or thereabouts, they had national police with submachine guns at ever major street corner in anticipation of riots due to the closing of the national banks. L --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: He should have talked to Girish and marshy's other kin folk - I hear the Movement people did that crap all the time and got away with it. From: John jr_esq@ To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 1:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption  He tried to bring in millions of euros in cash from Switzerland without going through customs. Further investigation of this case could disclose many ugly details. One wonders how many mistresses this crook is keeping by stealing from the church coffers. This is a case of Jupiter turning into a malefic. When it does, it steals millions through organized crime. http://news.yahoo.com/vatican-official-arrested-corruption-plot-075720910.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sure sounds like Robin to me...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: (snip) It was ALWAYS about the hitting. It's only the die-hard cultists trying to protect their past or present investment in fantasies about Robin who are trying to make it appear to be something else. Robin physically struck his students, and can find ways to justify that. His defenders KNOW that he repeatedly physically struck his students, We KNOW this *because Robin admitted it*. and continue to find ways to justify that. I don't recall anybody ever trying to justify it. Robin himself has condemned it in no uncertain terms (as Barry knows). Oh, wait, I *do* remember somebody here attempting to justify it: There is plenty of compassion here for weird shit we all did in our past and this doesn't sound like such a big deal. There were a whole bunch of weird psychological 'breakthrough' cults that seem to be far worse than what you were running back then. If you weren't banging your disciples ten deep in Elvis' Graceland white panty parties, you come off as better than most people in your position of power over the entranced. This person also said: What Ann may not be aware of about the dynamics of the place is that the Robin hitting people issue wasn't really about Robin hitting people. Hmm. That's exactly what Ann said that Barry so furiously denies, calling her a cultist for even suggesting it. Guess the person who wrote the above must be a cultist too, huh? This post was made the morning after Robin posted his Open Letter, not a year and a half later. Boy, those cultish Robin-defenders got busy quick, didn't they? By this time, Barry will have figured out who wrote that post. And that will be the end of his fulminating about justifying and cultists. Anybody else want to take a guess as to who it was? Steve, how about you? Xeno? THAT is why this topic continues to come up. THAT is the very stuff of the cult mindset. No, Barry keeps bringing it up because of his own personal animus against his critics, especially Robin and his defenders. Full stop. In this instance, he brought it up because he was *infuriated* by his inability to bait Ann and me, just as Ann said. When he made a bunch of patently false claims about Robin's behavior on FFL, I easily documented the lies and laughed at him. Then he suggested Robin was a psychopath, and Ann and I both laughed at him. Then he lost control completely, hauled out the whole striking-students business again, and crowned it with one *huge whopper* of an exceptionally malicious lie. That lie was exposed and debunked as well. Now he's busy trying to save a little face by telling a whole bunch *more* lies, and failing miserably. But he can't stop himself. It's a compulsion.
[FairfieldLife] Crop Circles
Maybe this explains why our visiting aliens are so enamored of making crop circles. “There had been a popular joke on Freedom, started by a man named Calder. Looking down from space, he had said, the dominant life forms on Earth were obviously the cereals and other grasses. They occupied all the most desirable and fertile land; and they had tamed insects and animals to care for them. In particular, they had domesticated the bipeds to nurture and cultivate them and to save and plant their seed. Now, watching the farmers, Alex could easily imagine that they were worshiping and genuflecting before their masters.” ― Larry Niven
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circles
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Maybe this explains why our visiting aliens are so enamored of making crop circles. There had been a popular joke on Freedom, started by a man named Calder. Looking down from space, he had said, the dominant life forms on Earth were obviously the cereals and other grasses. They occupied all the most desirable and fertile land; and they had tamed insects and animals to care for them. In particular, they had domesticated the bipeds to nurture and cultivate them and to save and plant their seed. Now, watching the farmers, Alex could easily imagine that they were worshiping and genuflecting before their masters. - Larry Niven Great find. For a hard science SciFi writer, Larry could be very funny on occasion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A veritable *demonstration* of intellectual dishonesty
If we're going to discuss intellectual dishonesty, let's start with the fact that Barry has *no clue* about the nature of my personal relationship to Robin. Which means that when he attempts to characterize it as if he knows something about it, he is being intellectually dishonest. Not a good start, is it? Doesn't get any better, unfortunately. The next significant fact is that with regard to his FFL posts, Barry is a chronic liar--not just intellectually dishonest but factually dishonest, having made many, many seemingly factual statements that he knows to be false. The irony of the task Barry has undertaken here is immense. Now let's examine the dishonesty in what he goes on to say: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Now that we've managed to tweak the Judy Wind-Up Doll to the point that she's already pissed away a quarter of her posts for this coming week in the first four hours of the posting week :-), Actually only four of my posts so far this posting week had to do with this topic, and only two of those were in response to Barry (in both cases correcting knowingly false statements of his). Pretty pathetic tweaking, if you ask me. What's got him so hysterical is that he's been unable to get away with any of his own false statements (some of which have been flat-out lies, others due to ignorance and/or carelessness). Bottom line, he's been a flop at portraying Robin as a villain. That's because it's an intellectually dishonest concept. He knows Robin *isn't* a villain. let's put her whole performance this past week into some perspective, shall we? What wound her up was me posting some FACTS -- in his own words -- about her fantasy boyfriend Robin Carlsen in response to Card's post of Clinton looking into the camera and telling the American public, I did NOT have sex with that woman. That struck me as a *perfect* parallel to what Robin did with the I did NOT strike my students routine that backfired on him so badly. No, sorry, you posted some false statements and some quotes that were out of context. I corrected you and provided the context you carefully left out, an intellectually dishonest omission. And as you know, from the start I characterized Robin's move as Clintonesque, so you can stop your dishonest pretense that somehow I objected to that comparison. Robin, trying to make Vaj's claims go away, homed in on a Judy Steinian nitpick and took advantage of the phrase during a seminar to deny that he had ever struck his students. He did not deny that he had ever struck his students. A lie from Barry. To Robin, there was a significant distinction between smacking confrontees on stage in front of an audience during a public seminar--which would have been exceptionally stupid just from a business perspective, let alone any others--and doing so in a private setting with a residential community of people he had been working closely and intensely with for some time. That is not a difficult distinction to understand. It's intellectually dishonest to claim it's of no significance. If you read his Open Letter, he explains why he felt trying to convey on FFL what went on in the private setting--which was highly esoteric, to say the least-- would have been futile. After all, Vaj was still carrying on a prolonged and sadistic jihad against him on a number of different fronts. Not a good environment, to say the least, for communicating something as complex and mysterious as what he detailed in his Open Letter. In the course of doing this, he used phrases like, this is not something I would have done and I never once struck someone on stage. He was clearly using the nitpick of during a seminar to LIE, and claim he had *never* struck his students, No, that isn't clear at all, sorry. That's your malign interpretation, and it's intellectually dishonest. As he said in the Open Letter, he knew it would have to come out eventually. He just didn't think it was the appropriate context at that point. using the same equivocal trick that Clinton was trying to use by relying on a subjective, self-serving definition of sex that did not include blowjobs to LIE about Monica Lewinsky. Similar tactic, different situation, different motivation. Judy Stein, self-appointed hall monitor of honesty on Fairfield Life, sees nothing wrong with this. Not true. I understood why he had done it, but I wasn't comfortable with the Clintonesque aspect. And the thing is, Robin was even lying about THAT, the nitpick, as Judy herself admits in a later post. And that's another lie from Barry. I never admitted that Robin lied, because I don't think he did lie. I don't know what happened onstage, and neither does Barry. Neither does Ann, for that matter. As I pointed out in another post, it's highly unlikely he would have lied about an incident he knew Ann would have witnessed. He isn't *stupid*. There has to be some other explanation. She says that Ann
[FairfieldLife] A true culinary find in Paris
No, not five-star cuisine, comfort food -- fish and chips. And in my 'hood, no less, at a very acceptable cafe near rue Mouffetard that has free Wifi. I feel like a soccer fan shouting Score! :-) Light, crispy crust perfectly fried around a tasty morsel of fresh fish, served with acceptable fries, tartar sauce, and -- bless them! -- vinegar on the side, without me even having to ask for it. I must look English or something today. As for today, it's still overcast and slightly on the chilly side, at the end of June. I'm wearing a short-sleeved shirt, but many around me are wearing coats and sweaters. It's a gigantic leap to go from looking around the cafe at this to reading on the Net about the heat waves in the American Southwest. I wish them all well. Ten years ago I was here in Paris during the now-infamous canicule (heat wave) that killed hundreds of people in Europe. It was *intense*. High temperatures, but the killer (literally) was that it never cooled down -- not even at night -- for a couple of weeks. At that time of year, most of Paris is away on vacation. Many of the ones left behind are old, and don't have the money to travel. Their age made them susceptible to heatstroke and respiratory conditions, and many were placed in grave danger by the incessant heat. The doctors of Paris were *also* away on vacation during this period, but to their credit, when they heard about the temperatures, many of them left their families at their vacation homes and returned to Paris, because they knew what was going to happen, and wanted to be there to care for people. It has been estimated that if they hadn't done that, the number of deaths as a result of the canicule would have been several times higher than it was. But today it's cool, and so were the fish and chips. Life just rocks sometimes when you're easy to please. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sure sounds like Robin to me...
Hey Judy, thank you for the analysis. Now remember, that people do change. This is not a bad thing. Hopefully they change for the better. In this case you feel the change was for the worse. No biggy. But honestly my heart opens up to you a little. Maybe there's a little rut you happen to be stuck in. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: I just want to say that Steve never *used* to be so stupidly, deliberately obnoxious. He was a perfectly nice chap with a pretty good sense of humor who occasionally said some fairly interesting things. Sometimes he'd get into hassles of one sort or another, but mostly he was fine. Something has happened to him in the last few years, and it doesn't look like it's anything good. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: What moronic stuff again. You are clueless to your contradictions, your hypocrisy, your dishonesty - no charitable stuff coming through Stevie baby. Certainly not any kind of values anywhere - this hypocrisy, this dishonesty. A classic example of what I was talking about. I had to double down on your bullshit so you could perhaps look at your hypocrisy and dishonesty, but no you said I was harsh. Of course I was harsh, I was intentionally harsh. How about Robin being labelled sociopath - was that harsh? Where's your charity that you talk about? Aligning yourself with the maliciousness of the sadist Barry and the one with the self-professed sociopathic traits - Xeno. Pathetic Stevie baby. On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:41 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: where was I? BTW, just had a delicious Caesar salad with the wife and toasted raviolis. Don't you just love it when those croutons are perfect, not really crunchy, but not too spongy either. I do. Anyway, back to the business at hand. About this American thing, Rav. What I'm saying is that growing up in the culture, we don't really feel like we always need to be proving ourselves. I think we feel pretty blessed and generally try to have a charitable attitude. You seem like you've got something to prove. Or maybe that worshipping Amma trip that got laid on you was just too much for you to handle. Anyway, it's really not that original to label people with whom you disagree as needing to be institutionalized. But if makes you feel good, by all means keep it up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Stevie's world Lying, dishonesty = Blind spots Bullying, malicious vindictiveness, assigning people labels = Difference of opinion When pointed out he says he is an American. Steve baby - you, Barry and Xeno have some psychological issues, you guys need to be drugged, institutionalized. Or you are just pathological liars. Xeno says he is sociopathic, that he lacks empathy. Barry lacks empathy, is a sadistic bully. God have mercy on your souls. On 6/28/13 4:43 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: God what silly nonsense Steve. You are so fucking moronic, clueless to how you have completely changed your tune here. No distorting the truth is not difference of opinion. I clearly showed your distortion of facts - whether it be aversion to men, or my posts on Ammachi free speech. You accused me of bullying and being an American, LOL how hilarious. No - it's not a difference of opinion. You may not be sociopathic like Xeno and Barry but you are dishonest and by clearly lack any integrity by your support of malicious, vindictive behavior of Xeno and Barry. Your behavior is sickening Steve, don't know how you function in a normal society - a lowly, superficial, inauthentic, pathetic existence indeed. Are these your American values - moronic dishonesty, malicious vindictiveness? God what a joke. On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:29 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Am I screaming loud Steve baby - what do you think about the behavior of Xeno and Barry? Is that bullying? Is that sociopathic behavior? Trying their darnedest to associate, attach a label of sociopath on Robin in spite of all the facts that are presented by Judy, Ann and I? My goodness Ravi, you really don't get it do you. And to be so scared of some kind of label!! So, let me make sure I have it straight. You are protesting that in spite of the all facts that have been presented by you and Judy and Ann, some people remain unconvinced that something about Robin is not out of whack. All I can do is apologize for that Ravi. Differences of opinion are to be expected when people come together to discuss something. This is pretty basic, but apparently lost on you. I guess that explains all
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sure sounds like Robin to me...
Thanks Rav for the invite. For right now, I'm gonna stay on my present track. As different facts, or angles emerge I'll remain open to changing my position. But at present I'm going to stay the course. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Agree - perhaps Steve will rise, redeem, realize his mistake and display his amazing American charitable nature, this blessedness and strongly condemn Barry and Xeno for trying to maliciously label Robin as a sociopath, not dismiss it as mere difference of opinion. Very harsh and hurtful stuff Steve and no proof based on Robin's actions here 2011-13. at FFL, anyway neither Xeno nor Barry have shown us other than innuendo and distortion of facts, even these distorted facts not meeting the high burden of proof that's required here. Come on Steve, here's a chance to walk the talk !!! On Jun 28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: I just want to say that Steve never *used* to be so stupidly, deliberately obnoxious. He was a perfectly nice chap with a pretty good sense of humor who occasionally said some fairly interesting things. Sometimes he'd get into hassles of one sort or another, but mostly he was fine. Something has happened to him in the last few years, and it doesn't look like it's anything good. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: What moronic stuff again. You are clueless to your contradictions, your hypocrisy, your dishonesty - no charitable stuff coming through Stevie baby. Certainly not any kind of values anywhere - this hypocrisy, this dishonesty. A classic example of what I was talking about. I had to double down on your bullshit so you could perhaps look at your hypocrisy and dishonesty, but no you said I was harsh. Of course I was harsh, I was intentionally harsh. How about Robin being labelled sociopath - was that harsh? Where's your charity that you talk about? Aligning yourself with the maliciousness of the sadist Barry and the one with the self-professed sociopathic traits - Xeno. Pathetic Stevie baby. On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:41 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: where was I? BTW, just had a delicious Caesar salad with the wife and toasted raviolis. Don't you just love it when those croutons are perfect, not really crunchy, but not too spongy either. I do. Anyway, back to the business at hand. About this American thing, Rav. What I'm saying is that growing up in the culture, we don't really feel like we always need to be proving ourselves. I think we feel pretty blessed and generally try to have a charitable attitude. You seem like you've got something to prove. Or maybe that worshipping Amma trip that got laid on you was just too much for you to handle. Anyway, it's really not that original to label people with whom you disagree as needing to be institutionalized. But if makes you feel good, by all means keep it up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Stevie's world Lying, dishonesty = Blind spots Bullying, malicious vindictiveness, assigning people labels = Difference of opinion When pointed out he says he is an American. Steve baby - you, Barry and Xeno have some psychological issues, you guys need to be drugged, institutionalized. Or you are just pathological liars. Xeno says he is sociopathic, that he lacks empathy. Barry lacks empathy, is a sadistic bully. God have mercy on your souls. On 6/28/13 4:43 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: God what silly nonsense Steve. You are so fucking moronic, clueless to how you have completely changed your tune here. No distorting the truth is not difference of opinion. I clearly showed your distortion of facts - whether it be aversion to men, or my posts on Ammachi free speech. You accused me of bullying and being an American, LOL how hilarious. No - it's not a difference of opinion. You may not be sociopathic like Xeno and Barry but you are dishonest and by clearly lack any integrity by your support of malicious, vindictive behavior of Xeno and Barry. Your behavior is sickening Steve, don't know how you function in a normal society - a lowly, superficial, inauthentic, pathetic existence indeed. Are these your American values - moronic dishonesty, malicious vindictiveness? God what a joke. On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:29 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Am I screaming loud Steve baby - what do you think about the behavior of Xeno and Barry? Is that bullying? Is that sociopathic behavior? Trying their darnedest to associate, attach a label of sociopath on Robin in spite of all the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sure sounds like Robin to me...
Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: Thanks Rav for the invite. For right now, I'm gonna stay on my present track. As different facts, or angles emerge I'll remain open to changing my position. But at present I'm going to stay the course. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Agree - perhaps Steve will rise, redeem, realize his mistake and display his amazing American charitable nature, this blessedness and strongly condemn Barry and Xeno for trying to maliciously label Robin as a sociopath, not dismiss it as mere difference of opinion. Very harsh and hurtful stuff Steve and no proof based on Robin's actions here 2011-13. at FFL, anyway neither Xeno nor Barry have shown us other than innuendo and distortion of facts, even these distorted facts not meeting the high burden of proof that's required here. Come on Steve, here's a chance to walk the talk !!! On Jun 28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: I just want to say that Steve never *used* to be so stupidly, deliberately obnoxious. He was a perfectly nice chap with a pretty good sense of humor who occasionally said some fairly interesting things. Sometimes he'd get into hassles of one sort or another, but mostly he was fine. Something has happened to him in the last few years, and it doesn't look like it's anything good. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: What moronic stuff again. You are clueless to your contradictions, your hypocrisy, your dishonesty - no charitable stuff coming through Stevie baby. Certainly not any kind of values anywhere - this hypocrisy, this dishonesty. A classic example of what I was talking about. I had to double down on your bullshit so you could perhaps look at your hypocrisy and dishonesty, but no you said I was harsh. Of course I was harsh, I was intentionally harsh. How about Robin being labelled sociopath - was that harsh? Where's your charity that you talk about? Aligning yourself with the maliciousness of the sadist Barry and the one with the self-professed sociopathic traits - Xeno. Pathetic Stevie baby. On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:41 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: where was I? BTW, just had a delicious Caesar salad with the wife and toasted raviolis. Don't you just love it when those croutons are perfect, not really crunchy, but not too spongy either. I do. Anyway, back to the business at hand. About this American thing, Rav. What I'm saying is that growing up in the culture, we don't really feel like we always need to be proving ourselves. I think we feel pretty blessed and generally try to have a charitable attitude. You seem like you've got something to prove. Or maybe that worshipping Amma trip that got laid on you was just too much for you to handle. Anyway, it's really not that original to label people with whom you disagree as needing to be institutionalized. But if makes you feel good, by all means keep it up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Stevie's world Lying, dishonesty = Blind spots Bullying, malicious vindictiveness, assigning people labels = Difference of opinion When pointed out he says he is an American. Steve baby - you, Barry and Xeno have some psychological issues, you guys need to be drugged, institutionalized. Or you are just pathological liars. Xeno says he is sociopathic, that he lacks empathy. Barry lacks empathy, is a sadistic bully. God have mercy on your souls. On 6/28/13 4:43 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: God what silly nonsense Steve. You are so fucking moronic, clueless to how you have completely changed your tune here. No distorting the truth is not difference of opinion. I clearly showed your distortion of facts - whether it be aversion to men, or my posts on Ammachi free speech. You accused me of bullying and being an American, LOL how hilarious. No - it's not a difference of opinion. You may not be sociopathic like Xeno and Barry but you are dishonest and by clearly lack any integrity by your support of malicious, vindictive behavior of Xeno and Barry. Your behavior is sickening Steve, don't know how you function in a normal society - a lowly, superficial, inauthentic, pathetic existence indeed. Are these your American values - moronic dishonesty, malicious vindictiveness? God what a joke. On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:29 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Am I screaming loud Steve baby - what
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption
Oh yeah, it happened. I just don't remember who it was. I'm thinking Billy Clayton, who became a skin- boy later. Maybe that was the *pay back* for doing the master's bidding.That was the same course that John and Yoko came to kidnap Yoko's daughter from a previous marriage, that was there with her father. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption I would love to know. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Was it Billy Clayton that got busted trying to smuggle course fees(Cash) out of Majorca to Switzerland in a suit case about '71 or '72? From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Lawson, We don't know if that is the case in Italy today. They'll have to interrogate this official to find out who ordered the operation, for what purpose, and for how long has this been going on. This case could make Dan Brown's new novel a factual tale, which I have not read yet. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: The only incident I heard of was in Spain many decades ago at a time when, if a company or organization was NOT doing that, they were plain stupid. Some countries have had a triple digit inflation rate relatively recently. Not sure if Spain was one of them, but when I was there in 1980 or thereabouts, they had national police with submachine guns at ever major street corner in anticipation of riots due to the closing of the national banks.L--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: He should have talked to Girish and marshy's other kin folk - I hear the Movement people did that crap all the time and got away with it. From: John jr_esq@ To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, June 28, 2013 1:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption He tried to bring in millions of euros in cash from Switzerland without going through customs. Further investigation of this case could disclose many ugly details. One wonders how many mistresses this crook is keeping by stealing from the church coffers. This is a case of Jupiter turning into a malefic. When it does, it steals millions through organized crime. http://news.yahoo.com/vatican-official-arrested-corruption-plot-075720910.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Edward Snowden?
Everyone knows by now that Edward Snowden worked for Booz Allen Hamilton for only three months. We know that the purloined information appeared in the Guardian. And, we know that Snowden flew to Hong Kong and then to Moscow. The question remains Who, if anyone, aided and abetted this well-planned theft of U.S. secrets? 'Who Helped Snowden Steal State Secrets?' Wall Street Journal: http://tinyurl.com/n9gyuv2 He's encrypted thousands of documents and sent them to Wikileaks. For all we know he may be a stooge, in an elaborate scheme to get disinformation, or malware, into Chinese or Russian intelligence. (Or for all he knows). http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/170444/ Every revelation about Edward Snowden should only deepen our concerns about our private data. 'Fear of a Black Hat' Slate: http://tinyurl.com/npz2lsb
[FairfieldLife] It's all in the eyes
There is a woman in this cafe I have been unable to tear my gaze away from for several minutes now. It's *not* that I'm being lecherous, or that she is attractive (although she is). It's her eyes. I have seen those eyes staring down at me from my walls for almost 40 years. They're the eyes of a woman in the first piece of real art I ever bought. It's a lithograph from 1897 called Invocation de la Madone à l'onyx, by Marcel Lenoir. I first saw it in a gallery in Westwood when I worked for the TM Regional Office when it was still located at 1015 Gayley. I walked into the gallery one day at lunch, and this woman just stopped me into my tracks. I was transfixed. After I recovered somewhat, I asked the price. I was told it was $250, and at that time of my life, working full time for the TMO as I was, I realized that I couldn't afford it. But I bought it anyway. I talked the owner of the gallery into reserving it for me on layaway, paying for it in five monthly installments, all I could afford after rent and food. During that time it still hung on the gallery walls, and I went in several times a week to visit my lithograph. Ever since -- even though I've bought a great deal more expensive and theoretically impressive art in the meantime -- it's hung in my houses in a place of honor. It's one of the things I would grab and carry out with me if my house was on fire and I had to flee quickly. Yet in all this time I've never seen any woman in real life with eyes quite like that. Until today. The woman in question smokes, and has a boyfriend, but still...she has those eyes. Such a gift from the universe...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: One of my good friends in Santa Fe was a psychiatrist who had, over the course of his career, treated many individuals suffering from Naricissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). When I met him, he had already given up on psychiatric treatment, having been convinced over the course of 20+ years that the condition was untreatable. But knowing of my interest in the subject (caused by having studied with at least two NPD spiritual teachers), he was willing to talk with me about his experiences back when he *was* treating NPD, and some of the conclusions he had drawn from those experiences. One of these conclusions seems relevant to recent events on FFL, so I'll rap about it a little. The symptom he spoke of as the #1 tip-off that he was dealing with someone with NPD was what he called blame displacement. To explain a bit, NPD sufferers live in an illusory/delusory world inside their own heads; they rarely, if ever, interact with reality as it is seen by other people. Subjectivity rules for the NPD individual, and they tend to sincerely believe that how they see the world *equates* to how the world is. So it is often a SHOCK to them when someone calls them on their own antisocial or unethical behavior. According to my friend the shrink, their *first* impulse at that point is to DENY it. They cannot accept that the view of them being proposed by this other person could be correct, because it contradicts their own internal, subjective view of themselves. Their *second* impulse is to attempt to SHIFT THE BLAME for these contradictory views of themselves. They call the person criticizing them or their behavior liars, and furthermore (and this is the tip-off) claim that the critic *does not even believe what they are saying*, and that they are *consciously* lying about them in an attempt to get them. Now think back to recent discussions about what Robin did when Vaj pointed out (Barry means claimed.) that Robin had struck his students. First he DENIED it vociferously, lying through his teeth the whole time. He didn't lie. As he said: I did not deny something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. That's a fine distinction, but it's a valid one. But second, he attempted to SHIFT THE BLAME, and portray Vaj as the Bad Guy In This Scenario, claiming that *he* was lying, and claiming furthermore than Vaj even knew that he was lying. Classic NPD behavior. Unfortunately, Barry, nobody who has read Robin's many posts here taking full blame for his misdeeds 30-some years ago is going to fall for this. Robin has very consistently portrayed himself as the Bad Guy in That Scenario, including in his Open Letter. That he resists taking the blame for something of which he feels he isn't guilty doesn't make him a narcissist. That's just not the way it works. If he claimed Vaj was lying, it was because he was convinced Vaj was lying. Vaj lied *routinely* on FFL, as well as being exceptionally abusive. He lied about me many times. He even lied about Ann, privately to you, and you got into hot water with Ann when you believed him and repeated his lie on FFL. Next, think about Judy Stein, and her well-established patterns on this forum. When faced with a critic -- someone who calls her on her behavior in a way that contradicts her internal view of who she is and what she's doing -- her first impulse is to DENY the behavior. But her second is *almost always* to attempt to SHIFT THE BLAME and claim that the critic is not only lying, but *consciously* lying, and doesn't really believe the thing he or she is saying about her. Again, classic NPD behavior. We really DO believe the things we say about you, Judy. No, you don't, Barry. You don't even believe what you've just written (and appropriately so). Your inability to comprehend or accept this is based on your own disability -- Narcissistic Peronsality Disorder -- not on some superior insight or intuition or seeing. Plain old deductive reasoning. You cannot accept that we *really* see you this way because it so strongly contradicts your view of yourself. This is called Narcissism. It's called Barry Hates Judy and Will Say Anything He Can Think of to Get Her, even when he doesn't believe it himself. Barry, you're projecting. Pretty ironic that you try to project your own flaming narcissism onto others. (Is that the editorial or the royal we, by the way? Or maybe the MPD we? Curious minds want to know.) *Six and a half years* after you made your Mel Gibson, Christian bigot post, you *still* cannot bring yourself to say, OK, I did it. I commented on a film I'd never seen. You *still* have to equivocate, and pretend not only that it never happened, but that Barry is lying about it happening. It happened. The proof is here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122
Re: [FairfieldLife] A true culinary find in Paris
Upper 120's for Death Valley today, upper 90's for Houston with near 100% humidity, feels like Death Valley! But a, the comforts of air-conditioning. The dog doesn't want to run(swim,maybe) the Peregrine won't want to fly. We'll just chill today. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A true culinary find in Paris No, not five-star cuisine, comfort food -- fish and chips. And in my 'hood, no less, at a very acceptable cafe near rue Mouffetard that has free Wifi. I feel like a soccer fan shouting Score! :-) Light, crispy crust perfectly fried around a tasty morsel of fresh fish, served with acceptable fries, tartar sauce, and -- bless them! -- vinegar on the side, without me even having to ask for it. I must look English or something today. As for today, it's still overcast and slightly on the chilly side, at the end of June. I'm wearing a short-sleeved shirt, but many around me are wearing coats and sweaters. It's a gigantic leap to go from looking around the cafe at this to reading on the Net about the heat waves in the American Southwest. I wish them all well. Ten years ago I was here in Paris during the now-infamous canicule (heat wave) that killed hundreds of people in Europe. It was *intense*. High temperatures, but the killer (literally) was that it never cooled down -- not even at night -- for a couple of weeks. At that time of year, most of Paris is away on vacation. Many of the ones left behind are old, and don't have the money to travel. Their age made them susceptible to heatstroke and respiratory conditions, and many were placed in grave danger by the incessant heat. The doctors of Paris were *also* away on vacation during this period, but to their credit, when they heard about the temperatures, many of them left their families at their vacation homes and returned to Paris, because they knew what was going to happen, and wanted to be there to care for people. It has been estimated that if they hadn't done that, the number of deaths as a result of the canicule would have been several times higher than it was. But today it's cool, and so were the fish and chips. Life just rocks sometimes when you're easy to please. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Edward Snowden?
It's Bush's fault! From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who is Edward Snowden? Everyone knows by now that Edward Snowden worked for Booz Allen Hamilton for only three months. We know that the purloined information appeared in the Guardian. And, we know that Snowden flew to Hong Kong and then to Moscow. The question remains Who, if anyone, aided and abetted this well-planned theft of U.S. secrets? 'Who Helped Snowden Steal State Secrets?' Wall Street Journal: http://tinyurl.com/n9gyuv2 He's encrypted thousands of documents and sent them to Wikileaks. For all we know he may be a stooge, in an elaborate scheme to get disinformation, or malware, into Chinese or Russian intelligence. (Or for all he knows). http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/170444/ Every revelation about Edward Snowden should only deepen our concerns about our private data. 'Fear of a Black Hat' Slate: http://tinyurl.com/npz2lsb
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption
Damn! I never heard of that incident either. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Oh yeah, it happened. I just don't remember who it was. I'm thinking Billy Clayton, who became a skin- boy later. Maybe that was the *pay back* for doing the master's bidding.That was the same course that John and Yoko came to kidnap Yoko's daughter from a previous marriage, that was there with her father. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption I would love to know. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Was it Billy Clayton that got busted trying to smuggle course fees(Cash) out of Majorca to Switzerland in a suit case about '71 or '72? From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Lawson, We don't know if that is the case in Italy today. They'll have to interrogate this official to find out who ordered the operation, for what purpose, and for how long has this been going on. This case could make Dan Brown's new novel a factual tale, which I have not read yet. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: The only incident I heard of was in Spain many decades ago at a time when, if a company or organization was NOT doing that, they were plain stupid. Some countries have had a triple digit inflation rate relatively recently. Not sure if Spain was one of them, but when I was there in 1980 or thereabouts, they had national police with submachine guns at ever major street corner in anticipation of riots due to the closing of the national banks. L --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: He should have talked to Girish and marshy's other kin folk - I hear the Movement people did that crap all the time and got away with it. From: John jr_esq@ To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 1:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption  He tried to bring in millions of euros in cash from Switzerland without going through customs. Further investigation of this case could disclose many ugly details. One wonders how many mistresses this crook is keeping by stealing from the church coffers. This is a case of Jupiter turning into a malefic. When it does, it steals millions through organized crime. http://news.yahoo.com/vatican-official-arrested-corruption-plot-075720910.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
http://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCs2Jb53CRY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: http://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Das State has its eyes on Bhairitu
Happy Birthday. Did you find White House Down to be more of a satire? Some folks say it comes off that way. I saw Olympus Has Fallen a couple months back. I watched The Last Exorcism Part II on BD last night. Sony is the distributor so the disc wasn't rental and had the Special Features on it so listened to the commentary which was interesting. Makes for a long night. Rated PG-13 but probably not for Buck. On 06/28/2013 02:20 PM, Share Long wrote: Yeah, noozguru, I was gonna add Trader Joe's but wasn't sure and didn't want archivists to go ballistic. Or make it too easy for your NSA team (-: Anyway, saw White House Down today. Loved it. All kinds of good guys and bad guys and smart, brave females. A little humor now and then. Think Independence Day melded with Air Force One. Enough twists and turns to never sag for 2 hours! Not great cinema but just what I was in the mood for. Go figure. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Das State has its eyes on Bhairitu Fry's should hand deliver me their weekly ad flier. They might also note that I often stop my Trader Joe's on the way back from Fry's. Just listening to Gerald Celente on Alex Jones right now saying he starts out each day with meditation. Unfortunately for the TMO it's Buddhist meditation. Celente is a trends researcher and does a pretty good job of reporting where the economy is. I read it's going to be 129 degrees in Death Valley today. When I left for my walk this morning it was already 77 degrees. I might even need to run my AC today. I've got a portable unit here in the computer room. I'm waiting for a helicopter to fly by to see if it shows up on the FlightRadar24 app. It's been fun seeing whose private jet is flying out of Buchanan. Now I can keep tabs on the 1%. There was a copter flying around yesterday before I got the app but couldn't tell if it was the Regional Parks Police helicopter or channel 7 (both look about the same). The local police and county sheriff don't have a helicopter anymore so it seems they share use of the Parks one since they need one to patrol the large regional parks we have around here. The park police missed some ticket writing last weekend as I ran into several OOs who were walking their dogs even off leash in the game preserve ($300 ticket per dog). The rest of the waterfront park is open to dog (on leash only) so why they walk them there is curious and I often ask. The rest of the park is about 3 times that preserve area. On 06/28/2013 04:14 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, just keep up those Mandarin lessons and you'll be ok no matter how many times Big Brother records you driving to Fry's (-: From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Das State has its eyes on Bhairitu http://cironline.org/reports/license-plate-readers-let-police-collect-millions-records-drivers-4883 The local and state police are watching you too - not just the NSA. Blame it on Bush - as usual.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
laughing here too because I was talking to my Mom AND watching your gull youtube and she said goodbye, I can tell you're on Internet. But she said it so fast that I said, Mom, do you have to go to the bathroom? And she laughed and said yes and I said, I could tell, and then we both laughed. Me and my Mom have come a long way these past 65 years (-: Anyway, thank you for this laughingji, hope you're well and happy. You too Steve. Feeling lots of gratitude for it all, including everyone in the Funny Farm Lounge And guess what? It's only going up to 73F in FF today, yahoo! PS Happy Birthday to someone who's currently not posting on FFL but has in the past! From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share http://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
Krishna muppets! Thank you, turq for this and also for Despicable Me2 trailer. Talk about making me smile big! Anyway, was wanting to rent something special for this evening and I think I'll go for DesMe1 (-: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCs2Jb53CRY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: http://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
Re: [FairfieldLife] A true culinary find in Paris
Was 101 here and I ran the AC in the evening. It still works. I wanted to replace it as it is probably over 30 years old GE but the neighbors think there's is even older but working. I wanted to replace it with a quieter unit but most of the stores only have window not through the wall. However some of the installer blogs say they can make some of the window units work as through the wall. Around here though the installers seen to only want to do central air. I looked into it but with the required electrical upgrade was $5000. The place is prepped for it and I asked the original owner why she didn't put it in and she said it wasn't worth it because it only got really hot a few days out of the year and the wall unit was sufficient. I have a Soleus portable in this room which I run if it gets too hot. It's a Spare the Air Day but I'm still driving to the waterfront park for a walk which may have a cool breeze off the water. People hate these Spare the Air Days around here because it's a perfect day to BBQ and they can't. And Saturdays you get these gardening crews coming around as they will be in this neighborhood running movers and blowers which aren't supposed to be run either. But what can they do? People want them there on Saturday when they're home not during the week. If the BART workers strike on Monday then the Bay Area might look like Mumbai by the end of day. On 06/29/2013 07:52 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: Upper 120's for Death Valley today, upper 90's for Houston with near 100% humidity, feels like Death Valley! But a, the comforts of air-conditioning. The dog doesn't want to run(swim,maybe) the Peregrine won't want to fly. We'll just chill today. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A true culinary find in Paris No, not five-star cuisine, comfort food -- fish and chips. And in my 'hood, no less, at a very acceptable cafe near rue Mouffetard that has free Wifi. I feel like a soccer fan shouting Score! :-) Light, crispy crust perfectly fried around a tasty morsel of fresh fish, served with acceptable fries, tartar sauce, and -- bless them! -- vinegar on the side, without me even having to ask for it. I must look English or something today. As for today, it's still overcast and slightly on the chilly side, at the end of June. I'm wearing a short-sleeved shirt, but many around me are wearing coats and sweaters. It's a gigantic leap to go from looking around the cafe at this to reading on the Net about the heat waves in the American Southwest. I wish them all well. Ten years ago I was here in Paris during the now-infamous canicule (heat wave) that killed hundreds of people in Europe. It was *intense*. High temperatures, but the killer (literally) was that it never cooled down -- not even at night -- for a couple of weeks. At that time of year, most of Paris is away on vacation. Many of the ones left behind are old, and don't have the money to travel. Their age made them susceptible to heatstroke and respiratory conditions, and many were placed in grave danger by the incessant heat. The doctors of Paris were *also* away on vacation during this period, but to their credit, when they heard about the temperatures, many of them left their families at their vacation homes and returned to Paris, because they knew what was going to happen, and wanted to be there to care for people. It has been estimated that if they hadn't done that, the number of deaths as a result of the canicule would have been several times higher than it was. But today it's cool, and so were the fish and chips. Life just rocks sometimes when you're easy to please. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
Happy Birthday Share, and may this be your best year, ever! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: laughing here too because I was talking to my Mom AND watching your gull youtube and she said goodbye, I can tell you're on Internet. But she said it so fast that I said, Mom, do you have to go to the bathroom? And she laughed and said yes and I said, I could tell, and then we both laughed. Me and my Mom have come a long way these past 65 years (-: Anyway, thank you for this laughingji, hope you're well and happy. You too Steve. Feeling lots of gratitude for it all, including everyone in the Funny Farm Lounge And guess what? It's only going up to 73F in FF today, yahoo! PS Happy Birthday to someone who's currently not posting on FFL but has in the past! From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share  http://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
Thank you Doc, Geminis forever! (-: Bhairitu, thank you for good wishes and for telling me about Soleus. Not sure if White House Down was a satire but *they* say that a feature of Kali Yuga is that truth is presented in the form of fiction and fiction is presented as truth. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share Happy Birthday Share, and may this be your best year, ever! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: laughing here too because I was talking to my Mom AND watching your gull youtube and she said goodbye, I can tell you're on Internet. But she said it so fast that I said, Mom, do you have to go to the bathroom? And she laughed and said yes and I said, I could tell, and then we both laughed. Me and my Mom have come a long way these past 65 years (-: Anyway, thank you for this laughingji, hope you're well and happy. You too Steve. Feeling lots of gratitude for it all, including everyone in the Funny Farm Lounge And guess what? It's only going up to 73F in FF today, yahoo! PS Happy Birthday to someone who's currently not posting on FFL but has in the past! From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share  http://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
As I mentioned earlier, I'm heading to FF week after next for the first couple of days of the Governors' thingy, so I'll be in dome for at least a couple of programs, then it's off to Mother India. Did I mention that I'm excited? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: laughing here too because I was talking to my Mom AND watching your gull youtube and she said goodbye, I can tell you're on Internet. But she said it so fast that I said, Mom, do you have to go to the bathroom? And she laughed and said yes and I said, I could tell, and then we both laughed. Me and my Mom have come a long way these past 65 years (-: Anyway, thank you for this laughingji, hope you're well and happy. You too Steve. Feeling lots of gratitude for it all, including everyone in the Funny Farm Lounge And guess what? It's only going up to 73F in FF today, yahoo! PS Happy Birthday to someone who's currently not posting on FFL but has in the past! From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share  http://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
You are welcome - When does Gemini end in jyotish? Because in the western sign, it ends June 21, then moves into Cancer. I mention it because you are the second person I have met who has a birthday in western Cancer, but says they are Gemini, instead. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thank you Doc, Geminis forever! (-: Bhairitu, thank you for good wishes and for telling me about Soleus. Not sure if White House Down was a satire but *they* say that a feature of Kali Yuga is that truth is presented in the form of fiction and fiction is presented as truth. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share  Happy Birthday Share, and may this be your best year, ever! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: laughing here too because I was talking to my Mom AND watching your gull youtube and she said goodbye, I can tell you're on Internet. But she said it so fast that I said, Mom, do you have to go to the bathroom? And she laughed and said yes and I said, I could tell, and then we both laughed. Me and my Mom have come a long way these past 65 years (-: Anyway, thank you for this laughingji, hope you're well and happy. You too Steve. Feeling lots of gratitude for it all, including everyone in the Funny Farm Lounge And guess what? It's only going up to 73F in FF today, yahoo! PS Happy Birthday to someone who's currently not posting on FFL but has in the past! From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share àhttp://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
And barely recognizable as the chord progression to Happy Birthday to avoid royalty payments to competitor Warner. But the song was derived from Good Morning to You which being a 19th century song is public domain. http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/14/4429412/happy-birthday-lawsuit-demands-warner-music-pay-back-royalites As a copyright holder myself I'm all for reversing the mods to the Copyright Act (such as the DMCA) and giving them the original term of 14 years and one 14 year renewal. The longer terms are just corporate silliness getting out of hand. We like to refer to the DMCA as the Mickey Mouse Law since Disney lobbied for it because Mickey was falling out of copyright (though protected by trademark) and they wanted to keep selling you their old cartoons. Today it is used to keep the Prison Industrial Complex in business with the aid of the NSA by putting away people for downloading a song or video for longer than many get for armed robbery. On 06/29/2013 09:15 AM, turquoiseb wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCs2Jb53CRY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: http://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
India in the summer? You must be a glutton for punishment. Even my late guru came back early from a trip there and when I asked why he said too hot! He had become acclimated to US weather. On 06/29/2013 09:37 AM, laughinggull108 wrote: As I mentioned earlier, I'm heading to FF week after next for the first couple of days of the Governors' thingy, so I'll be in dome for at least a couple of programs, then it's off to Mother India. Did I mention that I'm excited? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: laughing here too because I was talking to my Mom AND watching your gull youtube and she said goodbye, I can tell you're on Internet. But she said it so fast that I said, Mom, do you have to go to the bathroom? And she laughed and said yes and I said, I could tell, and then we both laughed. Me and my Mom have come a long way these past 65 years (-: Anyway, thank you for this laughingji, hope you're well and happy. You too Steve. Feeling lots of gratitude for it all, including everyone in the Funny Farm Lounge And guess what? It's only going up to 73F in FF today, yahoo! PS Happy Birthday to someone who's currently not posting on FFL but has in the past! From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share  http://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
[FairfieldLife] Re: A true culinary find in Paris
The 10 day forecast for Fairfield has highs in the 70s to low 80s, with 50s and 60s at night. Of course, the science is very clear on this: FF has Maharishi brand Vedic pandits, while Texas and California do not, hence the more pleasant temperatures in FF. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Was 101 here and I ran the AC in the evening. It still works. I wanted to replace it as it is probably over 30 years old GE but the neighbors think there's is even older but working. I wanted to replace it with a quieter unit but most of the stores only have window not through the wall. However some of the installer blogs say they can make some of the window units work as through the wall. Around here though the installers seen to only want to do central air. I looked into it but with the required electrical upgrade was $5000. The place is prepped for it and I asked the original owner why she didn't put it in and she said it wasn't worth it because it only got really hot a few days out of the year and the wall unit was sufficient. I have a Soleus portable in this room which I run if it gets too hot. It's a Spare the Air Day but I'm still driving to the waterfront park for a walk which may have a cool breeze off the water. People hate these Spare the Air Days around here because it's a perfect day to BBQ and they can't. And Saturdays you get these gardening crews coming around as they will be in this neighborhood running movers and blowers which aren't supposed to be run either. But what can they do? People want them there on Saturday when they're home not during the week. If the BART workers strike on Monday then the Bay Area might look like Mumbai by the end of day. On 06/29/2013 07:52 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: Upper 120's for Death Valley today, upper 90's for Houston with near 100% humidity, feels like Death Valley! But a, the comforts of air-conditioning. The dog doesn't want to run(swim,maybe) the Peregrine won't want to fly. We'll just chill today. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A true culinary find in Paris No, not five-star cuisine, comfort food -- fish and chips. And in my 'hood, no less, at a very acceptable cafe near rue Mouffetard that has free Wifi. I feel like a soccer fan shouting Score! :-) Light, crispy crust perfectly fried around a tasty morsel of fresh fish, served with acceptable fries, tartar sauce, and -- bless them! -- vinegar on the side, without me even having to ask for it. I must look English or something today. As for today, it's still overcast and slightly on the chilly side, at the end of June. I'm wearing a short-sleeved shirt, but many around me are wearing coats and sweaters. It's a gigantic leap to go from looking around the cafe at this to reading on the Net about the heat waves in the American Southwest. I wish them all well. Ten years ago I was here in Paris during the now-infamous canicule (heat wave) that killed hundreds of people in Europe. It was *intense*. High temperatures, but the killer (literally) was that it never cooled down -- not even at night -- for a couple of weeks. At that time of year, most of Paris is away on vacation. Many of the ones left behind are old, and don't have the money to travel. Their age made them susceptible to heatstroke and respiratory conditions, and many were placed in grave danger by the incessant heat. The doctors of Paris were *also* away on vacation during this period, but to their credit, when they heard about the temperatures, many of them left their families at their vacation homes and returned to Paris, because they knew what was going to happen, and wanted to be there to care for people. It has been estimated that if they hadn't done that, the number of deaths as a result of the canicule would have been several times higher than it was. But today it's cool, and so were the fish and chips. Life just rocks sometimes when you're easy to please. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: India in the summer? You must be a glutton for punishment. Oh, I thought that was a given as to anyone who posts here on FFL. ;-) Actually, it should be cooling slightly by the time I really get into the traveling part. I'm more concerned about the road washouts in north India preventing me from getting to where I really want to go. I'll just have to wait and see, then cross that bridge when I come to it, so to speak. Even my late guru came back early from a trip there and when I asked why he said too hot! He had become acclimated to US weather. On 06/29/2013 09:37 AM, laughinggull108 wrote: As I mentioned earlier, I'm heading to FF week after next for the first couple of days of the Governors' thingy, so I'll be in dome for at least a couple of programs, then it's off to Mother India. Did I mention that I'm excited? [snip}
[FairfieldLife] Re: A true culinary find in Paris
LOL - I am OK with the trade-off...and taking three showers a day. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: The 10 day forecast for Fairfield has highs in the 70s to low 80s, with 50s and 60s at night. Of course, the science is very clear on this: FF has Maharishi brand Vedic pandits, while Texas and California do not, hence the more pleasant temperatures in FF. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Was 101 here and I ran the AC in the evening. It still works. I wanted to replace it as it is probably over 30 years old GE but the neighbors think there's is even older but working. I wanted to replace it with a quieter unit but most of the stores only have window not through the wall. However some of the installer blogs say they can make some of the window units work as through the wall. Around here though the installers seen to only want to do central air. I looked into it but with the required electrical upgrade was $5000. The place is prepped for it and I asked the original owner why she didn't put it in and she said it wasn't worth it because it only got really hot a few days out of the year and the wall unit was sufficient. I have a Soleus portable in this room which I run if it gets too hot. It's a Spare the Air Day but I'm still driving to the waterfront park for a walk which may have a cool breeze off the water. People hate these Spare the Air Days around here because it's a perfect day to BBQ and they can't. And Saturdays you get these gardening crews coming around as they will be in this neighborhood running movers and blowers which aren't supposed to be run either. But what can they do? People want them there on Saturday when they're home not during the week. If the BART workers strike on Monday then the Bay Area might look like Mumbai by the end of day. On 06/29/2013 07:52 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: Upper 120's for Death Valley today, upper 90's for Houston with near 100% humidity, feels like Death Valley! But a, the comforts of air-conditioning. The dog doesn't want to run(swim,maybe) the Peregrine won't want to fly. We'll just chill today. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A true culinary find in Paris No, not five-star cuisine, comfort food -- fish and chips. And in my 'hood, no less, at a very acceptable cafe near rue Mouffetard that has free Wifi. I feel like a soccer fan shouting Score! :-) Light, crispy crust perfectly fried around a tasty morsel of fresh fish, served with acceptable fries, tartar sauce, and -- bless them! -- vinegar on the side, without me even having to ask for it. I must look English or something today. As for today, it's still overcast and slightly on the chilly side, at the end of June. I'm wearing a short-sleeved shirt, but many around me are wearing coats and sweaters. It's a gigantic leap to go from looking around the cafe at this to reading on the Net about the heat waves in the American Southwest. I wish them all well. Ten years ago I was here in Paris during the now-infamous canicule (heat wave) that killed hundreds of people in Europe. It was *intense*. High temperatures, but the killer (literally) was that it never cooled down -- not even at night -- for a couple of weeks. At that time of year, most of Paris is away on vacation. Many of the ones left behind are old, and don't have the money to travel. Their age made them susceptible to heatstroke and respiratory conditions, and many were placed in grave danger by the incessant heat. The doctors of Paris were *also* away on vacation during this period, but to their credit, when they heard about the temperatures, many of them left their families at their vacation homes and returned to Paris, because they knew what was going to happen, and wanted to be there to care for people. It has been estimated that if they hadn't done that, the number of deaths as a result of the canicule would have been several times higher than it was. But today it's cool, and so were the fish and chips. Life just rocks sometimes when you're easy to please. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A true culinary find in Paris
We'll see if that holds up when you get ice storms this winter From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A true culinary find in Paris The 10 day forecast for Fairfield has highs in the 70s to low 80s, with 50s and 60s at night. Of course, the science is very clear on this: FF has Maharishi brand Vedic pandits, while Texas and California do not, hence the more pleasant temperatures in FF. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Was 101 here and I ran the AC in the evening. It still works. I wanted to replace it as it is probably over 30 years old GE but the neighbors think there's is even older but working. I wanted to replace it with a quieter unit but most of the stores only have window not through the wall. However some of the installer blogs say they can make some of the window units work as through the wall. Around here though the installers seen to only want to do central air. I looked into it but with the required electrical upgrade was $5000. The place is prepped for it and I asked the original owner why she didn't put it in and she said it wasn't worth it because it only got really hot a few days out of the year and the wall unit was sufficient. I have a Soleus portable in this room which I run if it gets too hot. It's a Spare the Air Day but I'm still driving to the waterfront park for a walk which may have a cool breeze off the water. People hate these Spare the Air Days around here because it's a perfect day to BBQ and they can't. And Saturdays you get these gardening crews coming around as they will be in this neighborhood running movers and blowers which aren't supposed to be run either. But what can they do? People want them there on Saturday when they're home not during the week. If the BART workers strike on Monday then the Bay Area might look like Mumbai by the end of day. On 06/29/2013 07:52 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: Upper 120's for Death Valley today, upper 90's for Houston with near 100% humidity, feels like Death Valley! But a, the comforts of air-conditioning. The dog doesn't want to run(swim,maybe) the Peregrine won't want to fly. We'll just chill today. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A true culinary find in Paris No, not five-star cuisine, comfort food -- fish and chips. And in my 'hood, no less, at a very acceptable cafe near rue Mouffetard that has free Wifi. I feel like a soccer fan shouting Score! :-) Light, crispy crust perfectly fried around a tasty morsel of fresh fish, served with acceptable fries, tartar sauce, and -- bless them! -- vinegar on the side, without me even having to ask for it. I must look English or something today. As for today, it's still overcast and slightly on the chilly side, at the end of June. I'm wearing a short-sleeved shirt, but many around me are wearing coats and sweaters. It's a gigantic leap to go from looking around the cafe at this to reading on the Net about the heat waves in the American Southwest. I wish them all well. Ten years ago I was here in Paris during the now-infamous canicule (heat wave) that killed hundreds of people in Europe. It was *intense*. High temperatures, but the killer (literally) was that it never cooled down -- not even at night -- for a couple of weeks. At that time of year, most of Paris is away on vacation. Many of the ones left behind are old, and don't have the money to travel. Their age made them susceptible to heatstroke and respiratory conditions, and many were placed in grave danger by the incessant heat. The doctors of Paris were *also* away on vacation during this period, but to their credit, when they heard about the temperatures, many of them left their families at their vacation homes and returned to Paris, because they knew what was going to happen, and wanted to be there to care for people. It has been estimated that if they hadn't done that, the number of deaths as a result of the canicule would have been several times higher than it was. But today it's cool, and so were the fish and chips. Life just rocks sometimes when you're easy to please. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: A true culinary find in Paris
Whatever the weather, I'm sure there's a world renowned quantum physicist in Fairfield who can put it all into the proper, Vedicly scientific perspective. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: We'll see if that holds up when you get ice storms this winter From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A true culinary find in Paris  The 10 day forecast for Fairfield has highs in the 70s to low 80s, with 50s and 60s at night. Of course, the science is very clear on this: FF has Maharishi brand Vedic pandits, while Texas and California do not, hence the more pleasant temperatures in FF. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Was 101 here and I ran the AC in the evening. It still works. I wanted to replace it as it is probably over 30 years old GE but the neighbors think there's is even older but working. I wanted to replace it with a quieter unit but most of the stores only have window not through the wall. However some of the installer blogs say they can make some of the window units work as through the wall. Around here though the installers seen to only want to do central air. I looked into it but with the required electrical upgrade was $5000. The place is prepped for it and I asked the original owner why she didn't put it in and she said it wasn't worth it because it only got really hot a few days out of the year and the wall unit was sufficient. I have a Soleus portable in this room which I run if it gets too hot. It's a Spare the Air Day but I'm still driving to the waterfront park for a walk which may have a cool breeze off the water. People hate these Spare the Air Days around here because it's a perfect day to BBQ and they can't. And Saturdays you get these gardening crews coming around as they will be in this neighborhood running movers and blowers which aren't supposed to be run either. But what can they do? People want them there on Saturday when they're home not during the week. If the BART workers strike on Monday then the Bay Area might look like Mumbai by the end of day. On 06/29/2013 07:52 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: Upper 120's for Death Valley today, upper 90's for Houston with near 100% humidity, feels like Death Valley! But a, the comforts of air-conditioning. The dog doesn't want to run(swim,maybe) the Peregrine won't want to fly. We'll just chill today. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A true culinary find in Paris No, not five-star cuisine, comfort food -- fish and chips. And in my 'hood, no less, at a very acceptable cafe near rue Mouffetard that has free Wifi. I feel like a soccer fan shouting Score! :-) Light, crispy crust perfectly fried around a tasty morsel of fresh fish, served with acceptable fries, tartar sauce, and -- bless them! -- vinegar on the side, without me even having to ask for it. I must look English or something today. As for today, it's still overcast and slightly on the chilly side, at the end of June. I'm wearing a short-sleeved shirt, but many around me are wearing coats and sweaters. It's a gigantic leap to go from looking around the cafe at this to reading on the Net about the heat waves in the American Southwest. I wish them all well. Ten years ago I was here in Paris during the now-infamous canicule (heat wave) that killed hundreds of people in Europe. It was *intense*. High temperatures, but the killer (literally) was that it never cooled down -- not even at night -- for a couple of weeks. At that time of year, most of Paris is away on vacation. Many of the ones left behind are old, and don't have the money to travel. Their age made them susceptible to heatstroke and respiratory conditions, and many were placed in grave danger by the incessant heat. The doctors of Paris were *also* away on vacation during this period, but to their credit, when they heard about the temperatures, many of them left their families at their vacation homes and returned to Paris, because they knew what was going to happen, and wanted to be there to care for people. It has been estimated that if they hadn't done that, the number of deaths as a result of the canicule would have been several times higher than it was. But today it's cool, and so were the fish and chips. Life just rocks sometimes when you're easy to please. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A true culinary find in Paris
I would wager that Fairfield has more hot days (90 or above) per year than we have here in the SF Bay Area. We're going into a cooling trend during the week. On 06/29/2013 10:18 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: The 10 day forecast for Fairfield has highs in the 70s to low 80s, with 50s and 60s at night. Of course, the science is very clear on this: FF has Maharishi brand Vedic pandits, while Texas and California do not, hence the more pleasant temperatures in FF. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Was 101 here and I ran the AC in the evening. It still works. I wanted to replace it as it is probably over 30 years old GE but the neighbors think there's is even older but working. I wanted to replace it with a quieter unit but most of the stores only have window not through the wall. However some of the installer blogs say they can make some of the window units work as through the wall. Around here though the installers seen to only want to do central air. I looked into it but with the required electrical upgrade was $5000. The place is prepped for it and I asked the original owner why she didn't put it in and she said it wasn't worth it because it only got really hot a few days out of the year and the wall unit was sufficient. I have a Soleus portable in this room which I run if it gets too hot. It's a Spare the Air Day but I'm still driving to the waterfront park for a walk which may have a cool breeze off the water. People hate these Spare the Air Days around here because it's a perfect day to BBQ and they can't. And Saturdays you get these gardening crews coming around as they will be in this neighborhood running movers and blowers which aren't supposed to be run either. But what can they do? People want them there on Saturday when they're home not during the week. If the BART workers strike on Monday then the Bay Area might look like Mumbai by the end of day. On 06/29/2013 07:52 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: Upper 120's for Death Valley today, upper 90's for Houston with near 100% humidity, feels like Death Valley! But a, the comforts of air-conditioning. The dog doesn't want to run(swim,maybe) the Peregrine won't want to fly. We'll just chill today. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A true culinary find in Paris No, not five-star cuisine, comfort food -- fish and chips. And in my 'hood, no less, at a very acceptable cafe near rue Mouffetard that has free Wifi. I feel like a soccer fan shouting Score! :-) Light, crispy crust perfectly fried around a tasty morsel of fresh fish, served with acceptable fries, tartar sauce, and -- bless them! -- vinegar on the side, without me even having to ask for it. I must look English or something today. As for today, it's still overcast and slightly on the chilly side, at the end of June. I'm wearing a short-sleeved shirt, but many around me are wearing coats and sweaters. It's a gigantic leap to go from looking around the cafe at this to reading on the Net about the heat waves in the American Southwest. I wish them all well. Ten years ago I was here in Paris during the now-infamous canicule (heat wave) that killed hundreds of people in Europe. It was *intense*. High temperatures, but the killer (literally) was that it never cooled down -- not even at night -- for a couple of weeks. At that time of year, most of Paris is away on vacation. Many of the ones left behind are old, and don't have the money to travel. Their age made them susceptible to heatstroke and respiratory conditions, and many were placed in grave danger by the incessant heat. The doctors of Paris were *also* away on vacation during this period, but to their credit, when they heard about the temperatures, many of them left their families at their vacation homes and returned to Paris, because they knew what was going to happen, and wanted to be there to care for people. It has been estimated that if they hadn't done that, the number of deaths as a result of the canicule would have been several times higher than it was. But today it's cool, and so were the fish and chips. Life just rocks sometimes when you're easy to please. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
Doc, whereas in Western Gemini runs approx May 22 to June 22, in jyotish Gemini runs approx June 15 to July 15. laughinggull, I'm excited for you too. And I'll wave at you and Buck from the women's Dome (-: From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share You are welcome - When does Gemini end in jyotish? Because in the western sign, it ends June 21, then moves into Cancer. I mention it because you are the second person I have met who has a birthday in western Cancer, but says they are Gemini, instead. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thank you Doc, Geminis forever! (-: Bhairitu, thank you for good wishes and for telling me about Soleus. Not sure if White House Down was a satire but *they* say that a feature of Kali Yuga is that truth is presented in the form of fiction and fiction is presented as truth. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share  Happy Birthday Share, and may this be your best year, ever! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: laughing here too because I was talking to my Mom AND watching your gull youtube and she said goodbye, I can tell you're on Internet. But she said it so fast that I said, Mom, do you have to go to the bathroom? And she laughed and said yes and I said, I could tell, and then we both laughed. Me and my Mom have come a long way these past 65 years (-: Anyway, thank you for this laughingji, hope you're well and happy. You too Steve. Feeling lots of gratitude for it all, including everyone in the Funny Farm Lounge And guess what? It's only going up to 73F in FF today, yahoo! PS Happy Birthday to someone who's currently not posting on FFL but has in the past! From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share  http://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Mike, You sound like Qoheleth from the Old Testament. ??You mean like: havel havelim, omar kohelet, havel havelim. hakol havel! Card, Please, translate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
Share, Happy Birthday, indeed!! The Moon is transiting your natal Moon today too. So, this day is very happy and special. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: http://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A true culinary find in Paris
world renowned only in the sense of the world of TMSP True Believers From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 3:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A true culinary find in Paris Whatever the weather, I'm sure there's a world renowned quantum physicist in Fairfield who can put it all into the proper, Vedicly scientific perspective. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: We'll see if that holds up when you get ice storms this winter From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A true culinary find in Paris  The 10 day forecast for Fairfield has highs in the 70s to low 80s, with 50s and 60s at night. Of course, the science is very clear on this: FF has Maharishi brand Vedic pandits, while Texas and California do not, hence the more pleasant temperatures in FF. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Was 101 here and I ran the AC in the evening. It still works. I wanted to replace it as it is probably over 30 years old GE but the neighbors think there's is even older but working. I wanted to replace it with a quieter unit but most of the stores only have window not through the wall. However some of the installer blogs say they can make some of the window units work as through the wall. Around here though the installers seen to only want to do central air. I looked into it but with the required electrical upgrade was $5000. The place is prepped for it and I asked the original owner why she didn't put it in and she said it wasn't worth it because it only got really hot a few days out of the year and the wall unit was sufficient. I have a Soleus portable in this room which I run if it gets too hot. It's a Spare the Air Day but I'm still driving to the waterfront park for a walk which may have a cool breeze off the water. People hate these Spare the Air Days around here because it's a perfect day to BBQ and they can't. And Saturdays you get these gardening crews coming around as they will be in this neighborhood running movers and blowers which aren't supposed to be run either. But what can they do? People want them there on Saturday when they're home not during the week. If the BART workers strike on Monday then the Bay Area might look like Mumbai by the end of day. On 06/29/2013 07:52 AM, Mike Dixon wrote: Upper 120's for Death Valley today, upper 90's for Houston with near 100% humidity, feels like Death Valley! But a, the comforts of air-conditioning. The dog doesn't want to run(swim,maybe) the Peregrine won't want to fly. We'll just chill today. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A true culinary find in Paris No, not five-star cuisine, comfort food -- fish and chips. And in my 'hood, no less, at a very acceptable cafe near rue Mouffetard that has free Wifi. I feel like a soccer fan shouting Score! :-) Light, crispy crust perfectly fried around a tasty morsel of fresh fish, served with acceptable fries, tartar sauce, and -- bless them! -- vinegar on the side, without me even having to ask for it. I must look English or something today. As for today, it's still overcast and slightly on the chilly side, at the end of June. I'm wearing a short-sleeved shirt, but many around me are wearing coats and sweaters. It's a gigantic leap to go from looking around the cafe at this to reading on the Net about the heat waves in the American Southwest. I wish them all well. Ten years ago I was here in Paris during the now-infamous canicule (heat wave) that killed hundreds of people in Europe. It was *intense*. High temperatures, but the killer (literally) was that it never cooled down -- not even at night -- for a couple of weeks. At that time of year, most of Paris is away on vacation. Many of the ones left behind are old, and don't have the money to travel. Their age made them susceptible to heatstroke and respiratory conditions, and many were placed in grave danger by the incessant heat. The doctors of Paris were *also* away on vacation during this period, but to their credit, when they heard about the temperatures, many of them left their families at their vacation homes and returned to Paris, because they knew what was going to happen, and wanted to be there to care for people. It has been estimated that if they hadn't done that, the number of deaths as a result of the canicule would have been several times
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
Happy Birthday, your airess. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, whereas in Western Gemini runs approx May 22 to June 22, in jyotish Gemini runs approx June 15 to July 15. laughinggull, I'm excited for you too. And I'll wave at you and Buck from the women's Dome (-: From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share  You are welcome - When does Gemini end in jyotish? Because in the western sign, it ends June 21, then moves into Cancer. I mention it because you are the second person I have met who has a birthday in western Cancer, but says they are Gemini, instead. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thank you Doc, Geminis forever! (-: Bhairitu, thank you for good wishes and for telling me about Soleus. Not sure if White House Down was a satire but *they* say that a feature of Kali Yuga is that truth is presented in the form of fiction and fiction is presented as truth. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share àHappy Birthday Share, and may this be your best year, ever! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: laughing here too because I was talking to my Mom AND watching your gull youtube and she said goodbye, I can tell you're on Internet. But she said it so fast that I said, Mom, do you have to go to the bathroom? And she laughed and said yes and I said, I could tell, and then we both laughed. Me and my Mom have come a long way these past 65 years (-: Anyway, thank you for this laughingji, hope you're well and happy. You too Steve. Feeling lots of gratitude for it all, including everyone in the Funny Farm Lounge And guess what? It's only going up to 73F in FF today, yahoo! PS Happy Birthday to someone who's currently not posting on FFL but has in the past! From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share Ãâàhttp://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
[FairfieldLife] Minions, minions, and more minions...
No, not here on FFL. I think that position has been filled with the current four suckups. But in Paris, on opening night, Despicable Me 2 was great. The theater was full of laughing bilingual French kids. (It was shown in VOST, which means version originale, sous-titré, but I assume most of the kids were English-speaking because most of them looked too young to read, and they were laughing anyway.) The voices and animated mannerisms of Steve Carroll, Kristin Wigg, and even (throwing a bone to those who will only see a movie if it has a known TMer in it) Russell Brand were wonderful. But as with its predecessor, it was Elsie Kate Fisher as Agnes who stole the show. If you have kids, you're going to see it anyway, no matter what I say. If you don't, you should consider it, because it might help you to remember what it was like to be one.
[FairfieldLife] Old? Shrii yantra crop circle!
Is this perchance a hoax? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KliBRinZHJA
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Mike, You sound like Qoheleth from the Old Testament. ??You mean like: havel havelim, omar kohelet, havel havelim. hakol havel! Card, Please, translate. 2 Vanity of vanities, said the Preacher, Vanity of vanities: the whole is vanity.
[FairfieldLife] Pretty much the bottom line on religion
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/religion
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
Cool - Thanks! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, whereas in Western Gemini runs approx May 22 to June 22, in jyotish Gemini runs approx June 15 to July 15. laughinggull, I'm excited for you too. And I'll wave at you and Buck from the women's Dome (-: From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share  You are welcome - When does Gemini end in jyotish? Because in the western sign, it ends June 21, then moves into Cancer. I mention it because you are the second person I have met who has a birthday in western Cancer, but says they are Gemini, instead. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Thank you Doc, Geminis forever! (-: Bhairitu, thank you for good wishes and for telling me about Soleus. Not sure if White House Down was a satire but *they* say that a feature of Kali Yuga is that truth is presented in the form of fiction and fiction is presented as truth. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share àHappy Birthday Share, and may this be your best year, ever! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: laughing here too because I was talking to my Mom AND watching your gull youtube and she said goodbye, I can tell you're on Internet. But she said it so fast that I said, Mom, do you have to go to the bathroom? And she laughed and said yes and I said, I could tell, and then we both laughed. Me and my Mom have come a long way these past 65 years (-: Anyway, thank you for this laughingji, hope you're well and happy. You too Steve. Feeling lots of gratitude for it all, including everyone in the Funny Farm Lounge And guess what? It's only going up to 73F in FF today, yahoo! PS Happy Birthday to someone who's currently not posting on FFL but has in the past! From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share Ãâàhttp://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sure sounds like Robin to me...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Did you have a point you wanted to make, Xeno? I don't see how you think this post helps Barry. Neither do I. I was just tired of following this thread as it had gone on so long, so I posted something on this thread but rather in-specific as to how it applied. It just happened to follow whichever post I 'replied' to. And it was a bit atypical for Barry to keep in the queue for so long, and so many other joined in. I like the title of the thread. Lots of potential. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Because no one here is on trial in a real legal sense, does it really make any difference what Robin said, what Barry said, what Judy said, etc.? While what people write down, or put on the Internet somewhere has a certain fixed property about it, human memories of events we write down may not reflect 'what actually happened'. There is enough research on human memory to indicate that each time we retrieve a memory, it gets re-written and is probably altered by dropping out certain information and including new information based on the current context in which the memory is retrieved. So if we have textual accounts of things remembered, it still may not be relevant to truth. http://www.simplypsychology.org/loftus-palmer.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Das State has its eyes on Prairie Dog Willy
Yep, I used your real name in the subject line. Oh ... the outrage, the outrage. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote: emptybill: Das State has its eyes on Bhairitu You fuk*n nerd - you're not supposed to post somebody's name in the subject line of your post, insinuating that he is being watched by the police. This is slander and an attempt to smear. LULZ!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share
Thank you, JR, I couldn't tell for sure from my ephemeris but suspected that's the case. Reborn at 65! It has been a happy day, feeling very grateful for all big and little elements of life. Pizza for lunch! BTW, if you google on cardemaister's phrase, it means something about being in vain, in vain, it's all futility. And at the library, the movie Lincoln was available to borrow. But not Despicable Me which the video store did have. But I got it for free because it's my birthday! From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 2:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Share Share, Happy Birthday, indeed!! The Moon is transiting your natal Moon today too. So, this day is very happy and special. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: http://youtu.be/IS3HSguQNM8 Translation from gull-speak: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday, dear (insert appropriate name here), Happy birthday to you! Alternate translation to true TMers everywhere: Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy CC, happy GC, happy Unity, to you! Through you, heaven on earth for all, Through you, heaven on earth for all. Jai Guru Dev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, that reminds me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY SHARE!! [Snip, snip, snip all other nonsense having nothing to do with birthday wishes, as well as changing subject line so as not to give more attention to original subject line than is deserved...not that that's a bad thing...well, yes, it *is* a bad thing...bad dog, very bad dog...]
[FairfieldLife] Re: The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: He didn't lie. As he said: I did not deny something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. Hey Judy, can you flesh this out a little. Provide some examples where this would be a meaningful distinction?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretty much the bottom line on religion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/religion The basic emotion involved in desiring another to experience religious conversion: [The basic emotion enovolded in relious conversion.]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Old? Shrii yantra crop circle!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: Is this perchance a hoax? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KliBRinZHJA Difficult to say but it could be a hoax. They are certainly not Crop Circles as there is no crops in the desert. Real ones here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYYI5e-LkCA
[FairfieldLife] Barry and the Mystery Cultist
Barry has made it clear that he thinks anyone who didn't find Robin's having struck his students a Very Bad Thing was a die-hard cultist, and he has claimed that Robin's supporters were such cultists because we had tried to defend Robin's hitting behavior. Contrary to Barry's claim, only one person on FFL, in fact, has done that. Now, who could that be? Here's what this Mystery Cultist said to Robin the morning after Robin posted his Open Letter in January 2012 (it's from the ninth paragraph of the post). I asked Barry whether he could identify the Cultist from the quote: There is plenty of compassion here for weird shit we all did in our past and this doesn't sound like such a big deal. There were a whole bunch of weird psychological 'breakthrough' cults that seem to be far worse than what you were running back then. If you weren't banging your disciples ten deep in Elvis' Graceland white panty parties, you come off as better than most people in your position of power over the entranced. Barry hasn't said who he thinks the Mystery Cultist is. Either he really has no idea--which is strange, since he's so obsessed with the folks on FFL he thinks are cultists--or for some reason he's reluctant to say who it is. I suspect it's the latter, myself. Take a guess. Then check out this link to the post in question and see whether you agree with me that Barry would *really* prefer that the Mystery Cultist remain anonymous: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302457 When I first posted this quote Thursday evening, BTW, I predicted that we would hear no more fulminating from Barry about cultists doing any justifying in connection with Robin's Open Letter. I was right. I'm going to make one more post--a repost of Robin's Open Letter itself--then I think this particular kerfuffle will be all wrapped up, and Barry will have to think of a new one.
[FairfieldLife] Repost: Robin's Open Letter of January 2012
This is long but pretty interesting, especially as it describes Robin's experience with his community of followers in the earlier days of his group, before he started giving public seminars. I'm reposting it for anyone who is curious as to whether either Barry or I have misrepresented it as we have been discussing it in the thread just past. Dear Barry Wright, It is true that before I ever gave an official seminar I did, in fact, apply in a more Western sense, the Zen Roshi method of shocking someonethat is, I did on occasion, strike someone physically. Vaj said there was a video of my acting in this way. I know that no such tape exists. And if it did (as Vaj claims) it would be a simple matter of contradicting my avowal here. You will naturally ask: But Robin, by denying that you did in fact strike someone during a seminar, you are in effect implyingsurely you know thisthat you *never* struck anyone. This was your intent, right, Robin? It was not, Barry. For me to have on the one hand denied this accusation knowing it was falseif it had been true, Vaj would be able to convince me very easily of thisand yet, then and there, admitted that I did engage in this practise, or rather *had* engaged in this practise, would mean disclosing something about me which would tend to be interpreted in an entire vacuum of understanding of just what the context of this metaphysical theatre was. I chose, since you are so hostile and prejudiced, to withhold admitting that in fact I had struck peopleon rare occasionsinside the other, more intimate and personal context of what chronologically preceded the formal seminars. When almost all the persons who were convinced of my enlightenment lived in the same residence. By itself, separated from the spiritual context within which it is practised, the Zen Roshi's blow would seem primitive and brutal and outrageous. But we must assume even Leonard Cohen accepted that this was part of the spiritual methodology to which he was subjugating himself in having determined he had a real Teacher. Now what I did resembled not at all what is the classic Zen Flesh Zen Bones move. See if you can stay with me while I try to explain the context within which this act did in fact occur. Inside a seminar setting, however, it was never necessary or appropriate. At least this is my sincere and I believe truthful recollection. Now my purported enlightenment, as I came to understand it, Barry, came about through not just my own efforts, and my devotion to the Master (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi); it was effected by the Vedic gods, these impulses of Creative Intelligence, the devas. This was shown to me in the form of a revelation once I realized that my enlightenment could not be compatible with the description of the universe and the human soul as taught to me by Thomas Aquinas and my learning of the Catholic catechism. It was not that Catholicism forced this revelation upon me; it was more the tremendous shock of having the whole context I had created [or had been created *through* me] since I returned from Switzerland come apart, and eventually disintegrate. Once I realized that certain invisible beings had had a hand in my ultimate liberation I immediately realized that these very beings were not beneficent, were not interested in my happiness. *They had deceived me*. From that point on, early in 1987, I became determined to vanquish my enlightenment, to destroy the biochemical and intellectual basis of my Unity Consciousness. I knew that if my enlightenment was an hallucination, however real it was experientially, that my actions flowing from this assumed state of consciousness, were also flawed, defective, and problematic. And this included that infrequent instance where I would, seemingly under supernatural inspiration and authority, strike someone. Why strike someone, Robin? Well, here we get to the crux of the matter, Barry. These same celestial beings who created my enlightenment, and then pretty much inspired the context out of which I then actedthey evidently knew both the inherent and unrecognized weaknesses of each individual, as well as what the Western Tradition represented in terms of individuation of one's experience through a true existential willingness to allow life to 'make' one's soul:Also*this is the key point, Barry*these same celestial beings made me see each human being as existing inside a context where actual fallen angels warred with the good forces in the universe to take away a human being's innocence, determined as they were to make an individual a tool of their purposes by subtly inducing that person to compensate for some weakness or distortion inside of them *through behaving in a particular mode*.The mode so chosen was the creation of the fallen angel. Each person's mode was unique. 'Mode' here representing the inauthentic presentation of themselves. The specific pattern of an individual's mode, then, revealed the influence of these fallen angels (or
[FairfieldLife] Re: The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: He didn't lie. As he said: I did not deny something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. Hey Judy, can you flesh this out a little. Provide some examples where this would be a meaningful distinction? Not sure what you mean by examples. As you know, it refers to one specific situation, and the meaningful distinction is inherent in the two sentences anyway. You can read them in full context in the repost I just made of Robin's Open Letter.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Repost: Robin's Open Letter of January 2012
Hey, back to square one for me. This is as Clintonesque as it gets. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky I think that is a perfect comparison. Acquit him if you don't believe oral sex is sexual relations, and convict him if you think it is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: This is long but pretty interesting, especially as it describes Robin's experience with his community of followers in the earlier days of his group, before he started giving public seminars. I'm reposting it for anyone who is curious as to whether either Barry or I have misrepresented it as we have been discussing it in the thread just past. Dear Barry Wright, It is true that before I ever gave an official seminar I did, in fact, apply in a more Western sense, the Zen Roshi method of shocking someonethat is, I did on occasion, strike someone physically. Vaj said there was a video of my acting in this way. I know that no such tape exists. And if it did (as Vaj claims) it would be a simple matter of contradicting my avowal here. You will naturally ask: But Robin, by denying that you did in fact strike someone during a seminar, you are in effect implyingsurely you know thisthat you *never* struck anyone. This was your intent, right, Robin? It was not, Barry. For me to have on the one hand denied this accusation knowing it was falseif it had been true, Vaj would be able to convince me very easily of thisand yet, then and there, admitted that I did engage in this practise, or rather *had* engaged in this practise, would mean disclosing something about me which would tend to be interpreted in an entire vacuum of understanding of just what the context of this metaphysical theatre was. I chose, since you are so hostile and prejudiced, to withhold admitting that in fact I had struck peopleon rare occasionsinside the other, more intimate and personal context of what chronologically preceded the formal seminars. When almost all the persons who were convinced of my enlightenment lived in the same residence. By itself, separated from the spiritual context within which it is practised, the Zen Roshi's blow would seem primitive and brutal and outrageous. But we must assume even Leonard Cohen accepted that this was part of the spiritual methodology to which he was subjugating himself in having determined he had a real Teacher. Now what I did resembled not at all what is the classic Zen Flesh Zen Bones move. See if you can stay with me while I try to explain the context within which this act did in fact occur. Inside a seminar setting, however, it was never necessary or appropriate. At least this is my sincere and I believe truthful recollection. Now my purported enlightenment, as I came to understand it, Barry, came about through not just my own efforts, and my devotion to the Master (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi); it was effected by the Vedic gods, these impulses of Creative Intelligence, the devas. This was shown to me in the form of a revelation once I realized that my enlightenment could not be compatible with the description of the universe and the human soul as taught to me by Thomas Aquinas and my learning of the Catholic catechism. It was not that Catholicism forced this revelation upon me; it was more the tremendous shock of having the whole context I had created [or had been created *through* me] since I returned from Switzerland come apart, and eventually disintegrate. Once I realized that certain invisible beings had had a hand in my ultimate liberation I immediately realized that these very beings were not beneficent, were not interested in my happiness. *They had deceived me*. From that point on, early in 1987, I became determined to vanquish my enlightenment, to destroy the biochemical and intellectual basis of my Unity Consciousness. I knew that if my enlightenment was an hallucination, however real it was experientially, that my actions flowing from this assumed state of consciousness, were also flawed, defective, and problematic. And this included that infrequent instance where I would, seemingly under supernatural inspiration and authority, strike someone. Why strike someone, Robin? Well, here we get to the crux of the matter, Barry. These same celestial beings who created my enlightenment, and then pretty much inspired the context out of which I then actedthey evidently knew both the inherent and unrecognized weaknesses of each individual, as well as what the Western Tradition represented in terms of individuation of one's experience through a true existential willingness to allow life to 'make' one's soul:Also*this is the key point, Barry*these same celestial beings made me see each human being as existing inside a context where actual fallen angels warred with the good forces in the universe to take away a human being's innocence, determined as they were to make an individual a tool of their
[FairfieldLife] Re: Repost: Robin's Open Letter of January 2012
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Hey, back to square one for me. This is as Clintonesque as it gets. Oh, I think it could get more Clintonesque, actually. It's certainly along the same general lines, as I've said from the start. But the situation and motivation, of course, are very different. I'm afraid you'll have to read the letter, or at least to have read my posts in this discussion, for this to be clear, so you may just have to stay at square one and be none the wiser. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky I think that is a perfect comparison. Acquit him if you don't believe oral sex is sexual relations, and convict him if you think it is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: This is long but pretty interesting, especially as it describes Robin's experience with his community of followers in the earlier days of his group, before he started giving public seminars. I'm reposting it for anyone who is curious as to whether either Barry or I have misrepresented it as we have been discussing it in the thread just past. Dear Barry Wright, It is true that before I ever gave an official seminar I did, in fact, apply in a more Western sense, the Zen Roshi method of shocking someonethat is, I did on occasion, strike someone physically. Vaj said there was a video of my acting in this way. I know that no such tape exists. And if it did (as Vaj claims) it would be a simple matter of contradicting my avowal here. You will naturally ask: But Robin, by denying that you did in fact strike someone during a seminar, you are in effect implyingsurely you know thisthat you *never* struck anyone. This was your intent, right, Robin? It was not, Barry. For me to have on the one hand denied this accusation knowing it was falseif it had been true, Vaj would be able to convince me very easily of thisand yet, then and there, admitted that I did engage in this practise, or rather *had* engaged in this practise, would mean disclosing something about me which would tend to be interpreted in an entire vacuum of understanding of just what the context of this metaphysical theatre was. I chose, since you are so hostile and prejudiced, to withhold admitting that in fact I had struck peopleon rare occasionsinside the other, more intimate and personal context of what chronologically preceded the formal seminars. When almost all the persons who were convinced of my enlightenment lived in the same residence. By itself, separated from the spiritual context within which it is practised, the Zen Roshi's blow would seem primitive and brutal and outrageous. But we must assume even Leonard Cohen accepted that this was part of the spiritual methodology to which he was subjugating himself in having determined he had a real Teacher. Now what I did resembled not at all what is the classic Zen Flesh Zen Bones move. See if you can stay with me while I try to explain the context within which this act did in fact occur. Inside a seminar setting, however, it was never necessary or appropriate. At least this is my sincere and I believe truthful recollection. Now my purported enlightenment, as I came to understand it, Barry, came about through not just my own efforts, and my devotion to the Master (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi); it was effected by the Vedic gods, these impulses of Creative Intelligence, the devas. This was shown to me in the form of a revelation once I realized that my enlightenment could not be compatible with the description of the universe and the human soul as taught to me by Thomas Aquinas and my learning of the Catholic catechism. It was not that Catholicism forced this revelation upon me; it was more the tremendous shock of having the whole context I had created [or had been created *through* me] since I returned from Switzerland come apart, and eventually disintegrate. Once I realized that certain invisible beings had had a hand in my ultimate liberation I immediately realized that these very beings were not beneficent, were not interested in my happiness. *They had deceived me*. From that point on, early in 1987, I became determined to vanquish my enlightenment, to destroy the biochemical and intellectual basis of my Unity Consciousness. I knew that if my enlightenment was an hallucination, however real it was experientially, that my actions flowing from this assumed state of consciousness, were also flawed, defective, and problematic. And this included that infrequent instance where I would, seemingly under supernatural inspiration and authority, strike someone. Why strike someone, Robin? Well, here we get to the crux of the matter, Barry. These same celestial beings who created my enlightenment, and then pretty much inspired the context out of which I
[FairfieldLife] Re: The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Why he didn't say, right from the start, yes I have struck my students, and here's the context Wouldn't that have made a lot more sense, than issuing a blanket denial? As I've said, and others as well, it's not about the hitting, it's about the cover up, or the appearance of lying. And that is why I think the comparison to Clinton is perfect. If you believe that oral sex constitutes sexual relations, then you say Bill Clinton was lying. But if you don't think oral sex constitutes sexual relations, then you give him a pass. You hold your nose, but you give him a pass. The fact that Robin didn't own up to the whole picture from the start, for me shows a lack of integrity. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: He didn't lie. As he said: I did not deny something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. Hey Judy, can you flesh this out a little. Provide some examples where this would be a meaningful distinction? Not sure what you mean by examples. As you know, it refers to one specific situation, and the meaningful distinction is inherent in the two sentences anyway. You can read them in full context in the repost I just made of Robin's Open Letter.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Repost: Robin's Open Letter of January 2012
Translation: Robin claimed he didn't hit anyone. However, if he did, it was the devil who made him do it. Is that clear enough? JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: This is long but pretty interesting, especially as it describes Robin's experience with his community of followers in the earlier days of his group, before he started giving public seminars. I'm reposting it for anyone who is curious as to whether either Barry or I have misrepresented it as we have been discussing it in the thread just past. Dear Barry Wright, It is true that before I ever gave an official seminar I did, in fact, apply in a more Western sense, the Zen Roshi method of shocking someonethat is, I did on occasion, strike someone physically. Vaj said there was a video of my acting in this way. I know that no such tape exists. And if it did (as Vaj claims) it would be a simple matter of contradicting my avowal here. You will naturally ask: But Robin, by denying that you did in fact strike someone during a seminar, you are in effect implyingsurely you know thisthat you *never* struck anyone. This was your intent, right, Robin? It was not, Barry. For me to have on the one hand denied this accusation knowing it was falseif it had been true, Vaj would be able to convince me very easily of thisand yet, then and there, admitted that I did engage in this practise, or rather *had* engaged in this practise, would mean disclosing something about me which would tend to be interpreted in an entire vacuum of understanding of just what the context of this metaphysical theatre was. I chose, since you are so hostile and prejudiced, to withhold admitting that in fact I had struck peopleon rare occasionsinside the other, more intimate and personal context of what chronologically preceded the formal seminars. When almost all the persons who were convinced of my enlightenment lived in the same residence. By itself, separated from the spiritual context within which it is practised, the Zen Roshi's blow would seem primitive and brutal and outrageous. But we must assume even Leonard Cohen accepted that this was part of the spiritual methodology to which he was subjugating himself in having determined he had a real Teacher. Now what I did resembled not at all what is the classic Zen Flesh Zen Bones move. See if you can stay with me while I try to explain the context within which this act did in fact occur. Inside a seminar setting, however, it was never necessary or appropriate. At least this is my sincere and I believe truthful recollection. Now my purported enlightenment, as I came to understand it, Barry, came about through not just my own efforts, and my devotion to the Master (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi); it was effected by the Vedic gods, these impulses of Creative Intelligence, the devas. This was shown to me in the form of a revelation once I realized that my enlightenment could not be compatible with the description of the universe and the human soul as taught to me by Thomas Aquinas and my learning of the Catholic catechism. It was not that Catholicism forced this revelation upon me; it was more the tremendous shock of having the whole context I had created [or had been created *through* me] since I returned from Switzerland come apart, and eventually disintegrate. Once I realized that certain invisible beings had had a hand in my ultimate liberation I immediately realized that these very beings were not beneficent, were not interested in my happiness. *They had deceived me*. From that point on, early in 1987, I became determined to vanquish my enlightenment, to destroy the biochemical and intellectual basis of my Unity Consciousness. I knew that if my enlightenment was an hallucination, however real it was experientially, that my actions flowing from this assumed state of consciousness, were also flawed, defective, and problematic. And this included that infrequent instance where I would, seemingly under supernatural inspiration and authority, strike someone. Why strike someone, Robin? Well, here we get to the crux of the matter, Barry. These same celestial beings who created my enlightenment, and then pretty much inspired the context out of which I then actedthey evidently knew both the inherent and unrecognized weaknesses of each individual, as well as what the Western Tradition represented in terms of individuation of one's experience through a true existential willingness to allow life to 'make' one's soul:Also*this is the key point, Barry*these same celestial beings made me see each human being as existing inside a context where actual fallen angels warred with the good forces in the universe to take away a human being's innocence, determined as they were to make an individual a tool of their purposes by subtly inducing that person to compensate for some weakness or
[FairfieldLife] Re: The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Why he didn't say, right from the start, yes I have struck my students, and here's the context Two reasons. One, he was accused of striking his students in a very specific context in which he believed he had not done so; and two--well, you'll need to read the Open Letter for that reason. Wouldn't that have made a lot more sense, than issuing a blanket denial? He didn't issue a blanket denial. Steve, you really aren't going to get this if you haven't read the posts and don't remember what the situation was. Especially if you depend on what Barry says. As I've said, and others as well, it's not about the hitting, it's about the cover up, or the appearance of lying. And that is why I think the comparison to Clinton is perfect. If you believe that oral sex constitutes sexual relations, then you say Bill Clinton was lying. But if you don't think oral sex constitutes sexual relations, then you give him a pass. You hold your nose, but you give him a pass. The fact that Robin didn't own up to the whole picture from the start, for me shows a lack of integrity. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: He didn't lie. As he said: I did not deny something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. Hey Judy, can you flesh this out a little. Provide some examples where this would be a meaningful distinction? Not sure what you mean by examples. As you know, it refers to one specific situation, and the meaningful distinction is inherent in the two sentences anyway. You can read them in full context in the repost I just made of Robin's Open Letter.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Repost: Robin's Open Letter of January 2012
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Translation: Robin claimed he didn't hit anyone. However, if he did, it was the devil who made him do it. Is that clear enough? No, because that isn't what he said at all. My goodness, I really didn't think any *more* confusion could be injected into this discussion. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: This is long but pretty interesting, especially as it describes Robin's experience with his community of followers in the earlier days of his group, before he started giving public seminars. I'm reposting it for anyone who is curious as to whether either Barry or I have misrepresented it as we have been discussing it in the thread just past. Dear Barry Wright, It is true that before I ever gave an official seminar I did, in fact, apply in a more Western sense, the Zen Roshi method of shocking someonethat is, I did on occasion, strike someone physically. Vaj said there was a video of my acting in this way. I know that no such tape exists. And if it did (as Vaj claims) it would be a simple matter of contradicting my avowal here. You will naturally ask: But Robin, by denying that you did in fact strike someone during a seminar, you are in effect implyingsurely you know thisthat you *never* struck anyone. This was your intent, right, Robin? It was not, Barry. For me to have on the one hand denied this accusation knowing it was falseif it had been true, Vaj would be able to convince me very easily of thisand yet, then and there, admitted that I did engage in this practise, or rather *had* engaged in this practise, would mean disclosing something about me which would tend to be interpreted in an entire vacuum of understanding of just what the context of this metaphysical theatre was. I chose, since you are so hostile and prejudiced, to withhold admitting that in fact I had struck peopleon rare occasionsinside the other, more intimate and personal context of what chronologically preceded the formal seminars. When almost all the persons who were convinced of my enlightenment lived in the same residence. By itself, separated from the spiritual context within which it is practised, the Zen Roshi's blow would seem primitive and brutal and outrageous. But we must assume even Leonard Cohen accepted that this was part of the spiritual methodology to which he was subjugating himself in having determined he had a real Teacher. Now what I did resembled not at all what is the classic Zen Flesh Zen Bones move. See if you can stay with me while I try to explain the context within which this act did in fact occur. Inside a seminar setting, however, it was never necessary or appropriate. At least this is my sincere and I believe truthful recollection. Now my purported enlightenment, as I came to understand it, Barry, came about through not just my own efforts, and my devotion to the Master (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi); it was effected by the Vedic gods, these impulses of Creative Intelligence, the devas. This was shown to me in the form of a revelation once I realized that my enlightenment could not be compatible with the description of the universe and the human soul as taught to me by Thomas Aquinas and my learning of the Catholic catechism. It was not that Catholicism forced this revelation upon me; it was more the tremendous shock of having the whole context I had created [or had been created *through* me] since I returned from Switzerland come apart, and eventually disintegrate. Once I realized that certain invisible beings had had a hand in my ultimate liberation I immediately realized that these very beings were not beneficent, were not interested in my happiness. *They had deceived me*. From that point on, early in 1987, I became determined to vanquish my enlightenment, to destroy the biochemical and intellectual basis of my Unity Consciousness. I knew that if my enlightenment was an hallucination, however real it was experientially, that my actions flowing from this assumed state of consciousness, were also flawed, defective, and problematic. And this included that infrequent instance where I would, seemingly under supernatural inspiration and authority, strike someone. Why strike someone, Robin? Well, here we get to the crux of the matter, Barry. These same celestial beings who created my enlightenment, and then pretty much inspired the context out of which I then actedthey evidently knew both the inherent and unrecognized weaknesses of each individual, as well as what the Western Tradition represented in terms of individuation of one's experience through a true existential willingness to allow life to 'make' one's soul:Also*this is the key point,
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Old? Shrii yantra crop circle!
cardemaister Is this perchance a hoax? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KliBRinZHJA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KliBRinZHJA It wasn't. it took them quite a few days, working in the hot sun. I just took a while before the National Guard pilot noticed it. I know the guys involved and see them regularly to this day: Bill Witherspoon, Bob Hoerlein, Mark Petrick, I think Michael Cain, a few others. I've seen photos of them working on the project. I believe in aliens and tend to believe they are involved in many of the crop circles, but they weren't involved in the Oregon yantra. FairfieldLife/message/184865 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/184865 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/184865
[FairfieldLife] Re: The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Why he didn't say, right from the start, yes I have struck my students, and here's the context Two reasons. One, he was accused of striking his students in a very specific context in which he believed he had not done so; and two--well, you'll need to read the Open Letter for that reason. Why not clarify it at the outset? Someone makes a rather serious charge, why not take the time at that moment to set the record straight. If, as he says, the truth was going to come out, address it in a pre-emptive fashion. He offers some rationale for why he did not do that, and leaves it to others to decide if this indicated integrity on his part, or a lack of integrity. From the open letter: When Vaj first accused me of hitting someone at a seminar, I knew it was not true. After all, many persons were there for the first time. Had I done what I was accused of, a majority of those who had never before attended a seminar would have walked out. I don't remember a single person leaving a seminar. It was just not ripe for me to explain all this. I did not deny something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. And knew, probably, eventually the truth would come out, which might have the appearance of my having at the very least equivocated on this matter. But my conscience is clear. I never hesitated for a moment in knowing it was premature of me to on the one hand deny having done what I was accused of in one contextwhich was true: I did not strike anyone during a seminarwhile at the same time feeling an obligation to acknowledge that this indeed did in fact happenon rare occasionsin a quite different and more intimate context. I will leave it to the readers of FFL to determine whether I am morally culpable in having acted as I have. And this part, from an earlier part of the open letter, were his reasons for the striking. So why not just address the issue since it had been raised rather than giving, at least, the appearance of trying to conceal it. But he evidently had his reasons for letting it play out the way it did, so I will respect that. If the person seemed so identified with this deceitful representation of themselves through the malice of this fallen angel that they were in fact defending or upholding the integrity of themselves in resisting the beneficent and merciful inspiration of my enlightenmentconsciously as it were, or unconsciously colluding with the fallen angelI might, on occasion shock that person out of such an identification. And this took the form sometimes of striking them. Maybe in total 4 or 5 persons were struck. I hardly think it was more than this. And this was not something that happened on a regular basis. It was in extremis. But we shall see if this testimony is contradicted by someone who was there. This was not anger, punishment, retaliation, ritualistic violence. It was an inspiredand much resisted (I hated it)response in me in order to facilitate the process whereby a person could experience liberationeven momentarilyfrom their trance caused by their being identified with the particular fallen angel which had been chosen somehow to present this formidable and ultimate existential challenge to this person's soul, and their whole sense of who they really were. Now I have come, in having repudiated and deconstructed my enlightenment, to see that once I became enlightened on that mountain above Arosa, that my perception had been played such that I could only apprehend each human being in terms of this cosmic battle between good and evil. Now I am able to see each person absolutely on their own, without respect to 'the demonic'. And therefore I am sorry for all that I did which amounted to being determined by this hallucination. Which especially included on occasion trying to shock the person out of his or her identification with the fallen angel which was tormenting and deceiving them, even if they appeared oblivious to this truth.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Das State has its eyes on Prairie Dog Willy
emptybill: Yep, I used your real name in the subject line. 'Willytex' isn't my real name. LoL! Oh ... the outrage, the outrage. You're too late. Barry already attempted to shun and shame me on Usenet by posting my real name. Steve Perino posted the url of my place of employ. John Manning trolled to my place of employ and copied a photo of me and posted it to alt.m.t. So, what? I'm retired now so you can't get me fired, Asscracker. What's really funny about this is that I had already posted my real name and where I worked. LoL! Are you with Anonymous anymore? Apparently you don't even know what 'lulz' means. Go figure. Das State has its eyes on Bhairitu You fuk*n nerd - you're not supposed to post somebody's name in the subject line of your post, insinuating that he is being watched by the police. This is slander and an attempt to smear. LULZ!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
He did have his reasons, and he explains them in his letter. It's good of you to have read the letter and to respect his reasons; I can't imagine he'd ask any more of you than that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Why he didn't say, right from the start, yes I have struck my students, and here's the context Two reasons. One, he was accused of striking his students in a very specific context in which he believed he had not done so; and two--well, you'll need to read the Open Letter for that reason. Why not clarify it at the outset? Someone makes a rather serious charge, why not take the time at that moment to set the record straight. If, as he says, the truth was going to come out, address it in a pre-emptive fashion. He offers some rationale for why he did not do that, and leaves it to others to decide if this indicated integrity on his part, or a lack of integrity. From the open letter: When Vaj first accused me of hitting someone at a seminar, I knew it was not true. After all, many persons were there for the first time. Had I done what I was accused of, a majority of those who had never before attended a seminar would have walked out. I don't remember a single person leaving a seminar. It was just not ripe for me to explain all this. I did not deny something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. And knew, probably, eventually the truth would come out, which might have the appearance of my having at the very least equivocated on this matter. But my conscience is clear. I never hesitated for a moment in knowing it was premature of me to on the one hand deny having done what I was accused of in one contextwhich was true: I did not strike anyone during a seminarwhile at the same time feeling an obligation to acknowledge that this indeed did in fact happenon rare occasionsin a quite different and more intimate context. I will leave it to the readers of FFL to determine whether I am morally culpable in having acted as I have. And this part, from an earlier part of the open letter, were his reasons for the striking. So why not just address the issue since it had been raised rather than giving, at least, the appearance of trying to conceal it. But he evidently had his reasons for letting it play out the way it did, so I will respect that. If the person seemed so identified with this deceitful representation of themselves through the malice of this fallen angel that they were in fact defending or upholding the integrity of themselves in resisting the beneficent and merciful inspiration of my enlightenmentconsciously as it were, or unconsciously colluding with the fallen angelI might, on occasion shock that person out of such an identification. And this took the form sometimes of striking them. Maybe in total 4 or 5 persons were struck. I hardly think it was more than this. And this was not something that happened on a regular basis. It was in extremis. But we shall see if this testimony is contradicted by someone who was there. This was not anger, punishment, retaliation, ritualistic violence. It was an inspiredand much resisted (I hated it)response in me in order to facilitate the process whereby a person could experience liberationeven momentarilyfrom their trance caused by their being identified with the particular fallen angel which had been chosen somehow to present this formidable and ultimate existential challenge to this person's soul, and their whole sense of who they really were. Now I have come, in having repudiated and deconstructed my enlightenment, to see that once I became enlightened on that mountain above Arosa, that my perception had been played such that I could only apprehend each human being in terms of this cosmic battle between good and evil. Now I am able to see each person absolutely on their own, without respect to 'the demonic'. And therefore I am sorry for all that I did which amounted to being determined by this hallucination. Which especially included on occasion trying to shock the person out of his or her identification with the fallen angel which was tormenting and deceiving them, even if they appeared oblivious to this truth.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Das State has its eyes on Bhairitu
One of the favorite tactics of internet pranksters is to 'raid a forum or site, essentially overwhelm it with negative rants in large numbers just for kicks - lulz. Thank God respondents are allowed only 50 posts per week on Yahoo! FFL or else we'd be hacked and shut down by the pirates and the hackers. According to what I've read on 4chan /b/, Anonymous will conduct a major DDoS, even bigger than the attack on the Church of Scientology: Project Chanology, soon. Bhairitu: I don't think FFL or the TMO is even remotely on Anonymous's radar. You have nothing to fear, Willy. It's not me that I'm worried about, it's Yahoo that might get hit, and then you won't have a discussion group to post to for at least a day or two! That will probably drive you black hat crackers wild. Don't worry about me - I'm moving to Sonoma and buying a pot farm with my retirement package and my inheritance. You can contact me at the Santa Rosa Starbucks - look for the guy in the black T-shirt with the PowerBook - the guy with the grin on his face. LoL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption
Dude where have you been? From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Damn! I never heard of that incident either. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Oh yeah, it happened. I just don't remember who it was. I'm thinking Billy Clayton, who became a skin- boy later. Maybe that was the *pay back* for doing the master's bidding.That was the same course that John and Yoko came to kidnap Yoko's daughter from a previous marriage, that was there with her father. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption I would love to know. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Was it Billy Clayton that got busted trying to smuggle course fees(Cash) out of Majorca to Switzerland in a suit case about '71 or '72? From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Lawson, We don't know if that is the case in Italy today. They'll have to interrogate this official to find out who ordered the operation, for what purpose, and for how long has this been going on. This case could make Dan Brown's new novel a factual tale, which I have not read yet. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: The only incident I heard of was in Spain many decades ago at a time when, if a company or organization was NOT doing that, they were plain stupid. Some countries have had a triple digit inflation rate relatively recently. Not sure if Spain was one of them, but when I was there in 1980 or thereabouts, they had national police with submachine guns at ever major street corner in anticipation of riots due to the closing of the national banks. L --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: He should have talked to Girish and marshy's other kin folk - I hear the Movement people did that crap all the time and got away with it. From: John jr_esq@ To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 1:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption  He tried to bring in millions of euros in cash from Switzerland without going through customs. Further investigation of this case could disclose many ugly details. One wonders how many mistresses this crook is keeping by stealing from the church coffers. This is a case of Jupiter turning into a malefic. When it does, it steals millions through organized crime. http://news.yahoo.com/vatican-official-arrested-corruption-plot-075720910.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Das State has its eyes on Prairie Dog Willy
Episode 1 of the adventures of our competent NSA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHz7iYMqSZQ episode 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA_nM1k5B2g Those who have worked for the government will note accurate depiction of a higher up government bureaucrat. On 06/29/2013 05:50 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: emptybill: Yep, I used your real name in the subject line. 'Willytex' isn't my real name. LoL! Oh ... the outrage, the outrage. You're too late. Barry already attempted to shun and shame me on Usenet by posting my real name. Steve Perino posted the url of my place of employ. John Manning trolled to my place of employ and copied a photo of me and posted it to alt.m.t. So, what? I'm retired now so you can't get me fired, Asscracker. What's really funny about this is that I had already posted my real name and where I worked. LoL! Are you with Anonymous anymore? Apparently you don't even know what 'lulz' means. Go figure. Das State has its eyes on Bhairitu You fuk*n nerd - you're not supposed to post somebody's name in the subject line of your post, insinuating that he is being watched by the police. This is slander and an attempt to smear. LULZ!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Das State has its eyes on Bhairitu
Also got a kick out of this video satire about how Americans are manipulated by the government: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=OvG62F_A2Wk authfriend: On the same general theme of government manipulation, savor this from Rep. Tammy Duckworth, who lost both legs in combat in Iraq. She is questioning a man whose business received $500 million in government contracts because it was a small business purportedly owned by a disabled vet. His disability was a twisted ankle playing football in prep school. His VA disabled rating is probably legal. If you can't be bothered to sit through the questioning, tune in at about 4:50 for her windup. Best put on your flame-retardant suit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=rPOKm20wP4s In this country, the government can't just monitor your constitutionally protected activitieslike gun ownershipjust because it wants to. ...if you're not doing anything wrong, you don't have to worry about it,' turns us into a police state. http://freebeacon.com/senators-ask-if-nsa-collected-gun-data/
[FairfieldLife] Zimmerman trial - So, it's all about race
We don't believe the focus was really race - Martin Family Attorney That's a remarkable statement to come from the Martin legal team, since race is the only reason we're having this trial at all. Everyone from the Martin family's lawyers, to the professional grievance industry, to characters like the New Black Panther Party was busy whipping up riot conditions and treating Zimmerman as a fugitive from racial justice, which led to filmmaker Spike Lee endangering the lives of an innocent couple that just happened to be named 'Zimmerman.' And there's a good reason the media referred to Zimmerman as 'white' until photos of him finally leaked out, and they had to change it to 'white Hispanic,' a very special demographic of which George Zimmerman seems to remain the only high-profile member. 'The focus most certainly is race at the Zimmerman trial' http://tinyurl.com/qz7teg2
[FairfieldLife] My real name, was Das State has its eyes on Prairie Dog Willy
Bhairitu: Episode 1 of the adventures of our competent NSA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHz7iYMqSZQ episode 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA_nM1k5B2g Those who have worked for the government will note accurate depiction of a higher up government bureaucrat. So, this is what you do on Saturday night. LoL! emptybill: Yep, I used your real name in the subject line. 'Willytex' isn't my real name. LoL! Oh ... the outrage, the outrage. You're too late. Barry already attempted to shun and shame me on Usenet by posting my real name. Steve Perino posted the url of my place of employ. John Manning trolled to my place of employ and copied a photo of me and posted it to alt.m.t. So, what? I'm retired now so you can't get me fired, Asscracker. What's really funny about this is that I had already posted my real name and where I worked. LoL! Are you with Anonymous anymore? Apparently you don't even know what 'lulz' means. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Knock, knock, Das State has its eyes on Prairie Dog Willy
BRB (be right back), the FBI is at the door. LoL! Bhairitu: Episode 1 of the adventures of our competent NSA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHz7iYMqSZQ episode 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA_nM1k5B2g Those who have worked for the government will note accurate depiction of a higher up government bureaucrat. So, this is what you do on Saturday night. LoL! emptybill: Yep, I used your real name in the subject line. 'Willytex' isn't my real name. LoL! Oh ... the outrage, the outrage. You're too late. Barry already attempted to shun and shame me on Usenet by posting my real name. Steve Perino posted the url of my place of employ. John Manning trolled to my place of employ and copied a photo of me and posted it to alt.m.t. So, what? I'm retired now so you can't get me fired, Asscracker. What's really funny about this is that I had already posted my real name and where I worked. LoL! Are you with Anonymous anymore? Apparently you don't even know what 'lulz' means. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Ahh, nothing like a little animation to the alleged story, here, boys and girls. Let's go deeper into the rabbit hole http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDxgvMHCDXA Stop, Steve! This whole thing is looking ridicules to us all and as you say, I am not Shakespeare, (Don't have a dick, like you say that I am infatuated with.) the draining of time and place on a subject to prove what? About someone not even posting here anymore...you must want to desire to see that person post again. I can't take it anymore! Stop! Steve! Stop! Please! Go after Nabby at least, because he will at least attempt to rebuttal and maybe even through in a really nice song or two from the way back machine. You sir, are picking on a man who is not present. If he were dead, than that is fair game too, to contemplate the what was, has been aspects. Become that nice person you were before. Be the husband, the father, the man with a life. Please don't let us down to think if we all had a life as grand as yours, we would be posting here on FFL? :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Why he didn't say, right from the start, yes I have struck my students, and here's the context Two reasons. One, he was accused of striking his students in a very specific context in which he believed he had not done so; and two--well, you'll need to read the Open Letter for that reason. Why not clarify it at the outset? Someone makes a rather serious charge, why not take the time at that moment to set the record straight. If, as he says, the truth was going to come out, address it in a pre-emptive fashion. He offers some rationale for why he did not do that, and leaves it to others to decide if this indicated integrity on his part, or a lack of integrity. From the open letter: When Vaj first accused me of hitting someone at a seminar, I knew it was not true. After all, many persons were there for the first time. Had I done what I was accused of, a majority of those who had never before attended a seminar would have walked out. I don't remember a single person leaving a seminar. It was just not ripe for me to explain all this. I did not deny something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. And knew, probably, eventually the truth would come out, which might have the appearance of my having at the very least equivocated on this matter. But my conscience is clear. I never hesitated for a moment in knowing it was premature of me to on the one hand deny having done what I was accused of in one contextwhich was true: I did not strike anyone during a seminarwhile at the same time feeling an obligation to acknowledge that this indeed did in fact happenon rare occasionsin a quite different and more intimate context. I will leave it to the readers of FFL to determine whether I am morally culpable in having acted as I have. And this part, from an earlier part of the open letter, were his reasons for the striking. So why not just address the issue since it had been raised rather than giving, at least, the appearance of trying to conceal it. But he evidently had his reasons for letting it play out the way it did, so I will respect that. If the person seemed so identified with this deceitful representation of themselves through the malice of this fallen angel that they were in fact defending or upholding the integrity of themselves in resisting the beneficent and merciful inspiration of my enlightenmentconsciously as it were, or unconsciously colluding with the fallen angelI might, on occasion shock that person out of such an identification. And this took the form sometimes of striking them. Maybe in total 4 or 5 persons were struck. I hardly think it was more than this. And this was not something that happened on a regular basis. It was in extremis. But we shall see if this testimony is contradicted by someone who was there. This was not anger, punishment, retaliation, ritualistic violence. It was an inspiredand much resisted (I hated it)response in me in order to facilitate the process whereby a person could experience liberationeven momentarilyfrom their trance caused by their being identified with the particular fallen angel which had been chosen somehow to present this formidable and ultimate existential challenge to this person's soul, and their whole sense of who they really were. Now I have come, in having repudiated and deconstructed my enlightenment, to see that once I became enlightened on that mountain above Arosa, that my perception had been played such that I could only apprehend each human being in terms of this cosmic battle between good and evil. Now I am able to see each person absolutely on their own, without respect to
[FairfieldLife] Trampoline Video by RD
Juliette won 3rd Place Sub-Advanced Girls Age 8, United States Trampoline Tumbling Association National Championships, Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. http://youtu.be/R7rMywzoQlU
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trampoline Video by RD
Fabulous! Thanks for sharing! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Juliette won 3rd Place Sub-Advanced Girls Age 8, United States Trampoline Tumbling Association National Championships, Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. http://youtu.be/R7rMywzoQlU
[FairfieldLife] Re: The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Good news. I've got a better understanding of the situation and am ready to move on. I'm sorry if the process didn't move along at your prescribed time table. Perhaps I can do better next time. P.S. If you ever come to St. Louis, I recommend you try the toasted raviolis. We seem to be the only place you can get them. Be sure to get some extra parmesan cheese and extra marinara sauce. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Ahh, nothing like a little animation to the alleged story, here, boys and girls. Let's go deeper into the rabbit hole http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDxgvMHCDXA Stop, Steve! This whole thing is looking ridicules to us all and as you say, I am not Shakespeare, (Don't have a dick, like you say that I am infatuated with.) the draining of time and place on a subject to prove what? About someone not even posting here anymore...you must want to desire to see that person post again. I can't take it anymore! Stop! Steve! Stop! Please! Go after Nabby at least, because he will at least attempt to rebuttal and maybe even through in a really nice song or two from the way back machine. You sir, are picking on a man who is not present. If he were dead, than that is fair game too, to contemplate the what was, has been aspects. Become that nice person you were before. Be the husband, the father, the man with a life. Please don't let us down to think if we all had a life as grand as yours, we would be posting here on FFL? :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Why he didn't say, right from the start, yes I have struck my students, and here's the context Two reasons. One, he was accused of striking his students in a very specific context in which he believed he had not done so; and two--well, you'll need to read the Open Letter for that reason. Why not clarify it at the outset? Someone makes a rather serious charge, why not take the time at that moment to set the record straight. If, as he says, the truth was going to come out, address it in a pre-emptive fashion. He offers some rationale for why he did not do that, and leaves it to others to decide if this indicated integrity on his part, or a lack of integrity. From the open letter: When Vaj first accused me of hitting someone at a seminar, I knew it was not true. After all, many persons were there for the first time. Had I done what I was accused of, a majority of those who had never before attended a seminar would have walked out. I don't remember a single person leaving a seminar. It was just not ripe for me to explain all this. I did not deny something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. And knew, probably, eventually the truth would come out, which might have the appearance of my having at the very least equivocated on this matter. But my conscience is clear. I never hesitated for a moment in knowing it was premature of me to on the one hand deny having done what I was accused of in one contextwhich was true: I did not strike anyone during a seminarwhile at the same time feeling an obligation to acknowledge that this indeed did in fact happenon rare occasionsin a quite different and more intimate context. I will leave it to the readers of FFL to determine whether I am morally culpable in having acted as I have. And this part, from an earlier part of the open letter, were his reasons for the striking. So why not just address the issue since it had been raised rather than giving, at least, the appearance of trying to conceal it. But he evidently had his reasons for letting it play out the way it did, so I will respect that. If the person seemed so identified with this deceitful representation of themselves through the malice of this fallen angel that they were in fact defending or upholding the integrity of themselves in resisting the beneficent and merciful inspiration of my enlightenmentconsciously as it were, or unconsciously colluding with the fallen angelI might, on occasion shock that person out of such an identification. And this took the form sometimes of striking them. Maybe in total 4 or 5 persons were struck. I hardly think it was more than this. And this was not something that happened on a regular basis. It was in extremis. But we shall see if this testimony is contradicted by someone who was there. This was not anger, punishment, retaliation, ritualistic violence. It was an inspiredand much resisted (I hated it)response in me in order to facilitate the process whereby a person could experience liberationeven momentarilyfrom their trance caused by their being identified with the particular fallen angel which had been
Re: [FairfieldLife] Minions, minions, and more minions...
Thank you, turq, perfect ending to my birthday, just finished watching Despicable Me. And yes, I love little Agnes but have to admit that little Edith also has a special place in my heart. As does even that silly Vector. As for Miss Hattie, well I'm sure she has her good points too...some where very deep down inside (-: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 3:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Minions, minions, and more minions... No, not here on FFL. I think that position has been filled with the current four suckups. But in Paris, on opening night, Despicable Me 2 was great. The theater was full of laughing bilingual French kids. (It was shown in VOST, which means version originale, sous-titré, but I assume most of the kids were English-speaking because most of them looked too young to read, and they were laughing anyway.) The voices and animated mannerisms of Steve Carroll, Kristin Wigg, and even (throwing a bone to those who will only see a movie if it has a known TMer in it) Russell Brand were wonderful. But as with its predecessor, it was Elsie Kate Fisher as Agnes who stole the show. If you have kids, you're going to see it anyway, no matter what I say. If you don't, you should consider it, because it might help you to remember what it was like to be one.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Old? Shrii yantra crop circle!
These were also wonderful to see on my birthday, Nabby, thank you. I had some favorites too. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 4:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Old? Shrii yantra crop circle! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: Is this perchance a hoax? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KliBRinZHJA Difficult to say but it could be a hoax. They are certainly not Crop Circles as there is no crops in the desert. Real ones here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYYI5e-LkCA
[FairfieldLife] Re: The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Good to hear, Steve. I like you, your posts. I was only trying to annoyingly put attention on something that has way too much attention. If I was to post a bunch of crap that happened around my life on here, it would become the same. Controversial, entertaining, fun, stupid and eventually annoying. Toasted ravioli's I honestly did not check out that link. ha. Maybe I could make some from home? Glad to see you back in good spirits. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Good news. I've got a better understanding of the situation and am ready to move on. I'm sorry if the process didn't move along at your prescribed time table. Perhaps I can do better next time. P.S. If you ever come to St. Louis, I recommend you try the toasted raviolis. We seem to be the only place you can get them. Be sure to get some extra parmesan cheese and extra marinara sauce. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Ahh, nothing like a little animation to the alleged story, here, boys and girls. Let's go deeper into the rabbit hole http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDxgvMHCDXA Stop, Steve! This whole thing is looking ridicules to us all and as you say, I am not Shakespeare, (Don't have a dick, like you say that I am infatuated with.) the draining of time and place on a subject to prove what? About someone not even posting here anymore...you must want to desire to see that person post again. I can't take it anymore! Stop! Steve! Stop! Please! Go after Nabby at least, because he will at least attempt to rebuttal and maybe even through in a really nice song or two from the way back machine. You sir, are picking on a man who is not present. If he were dead, than that is fair game too, to contemplate the what was, has been aspects. Become that nice person you were before. Be the husband, the father, the man with a life. Please don't let us down to think if we all had a life as grand as yours, we would be posting here on FFL? :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Why he didn't say, right from the start, yes I have struck my students, and here's the context Two reasons. One, he was accused of striking his students in a very specific context in which he believed he had not done so; and two--well, you'll need to read the Open Letter for that reason. Why not clarify it at the outset? Someone makes a rather serious charge, why not take the time at that moment to set the record straight. If, as he says, the truth was going to come out, address it in a pre-emptive fashion. He offers some rationale for why he did not do that, and leaves it to others to decide if this indicated integrity on his part, or a lack of integrity. From the open letter: When Vaj first accused me of hitting someone at a seminar, I knew it was not true. After all, many persons were there for the first time. Had I done what I was accused of, a majority of those who had never before attended a seminar would have walked out. I don't remember a single person leaving a seminar. It was just not ripe for me to explain all this. I did not deny something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. And knew, probably, eventually the truth would come out, which might have the appearance of my having at the very least equivocated on this matter. But my conscience is clear. I never hesitated for a moment in knowing it was premature of me to on the one hand deny having done what I was accused of in one contextwhich was true: I did not strike anyone during a seminarwhile at the same time feeling an obligation to acknowledge that this indeed did in fact happenon rare occasionsin a quite different and more intimate context. I will leave it to the readers of FFL to determine whether I am morally culpable in having acted as I have. And this part, from an earlier part of the open letter, were his reasons for the striking. So why not just address the issue since it had been raised rather than giving, at least, the appearance of trying to conceal it. But he evidently had his reasons for letting it play out the way it did, so I will respect that. If the person seemed so identified with this deceitful representation of themselves through the malice of this fallen angel that they were in fact defending or upholding the integrity of themselves in resisting the beneficent and merciful inspiration of my enlightenmentconsciously as it were, or unconsciously colluding with the fallen angelI might, on occasion shock that person out of such an identification. And this
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Videos Showing Destruction in Kedarnath; Interpretations of Bhagavad Gita
---BeginMessage--- Title: IndiaDivine Videos Showing Destruction in Kedarnath The following videos show some of the destruction that occurred in Kedarnath due to flash floods. The first two videos are filmed by Raghubeer Bisth who was staying at the Kedarnath helipad when the destruction hit. He has uploaded a video showing the initial heavy rain at the helipad, as well as a video walking through the Kedarnath town a couple days after the destruction. ... Read Article Interpretations of Bhagavad Gita [ by Sri A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, originally published circa 1948 ] It has become a luxurious fashion of the day, along with the progress of material civilization, that everyone can make his interpretation of the great Indian philosophy called the Bhagavad-gita. This concise form of Vedic knowledge, known as the Gitopanisad, is acknowledged by all sections of transcendental scholars, in India especially, as the cream of all Upanisads and that of Vedanta-sutras also. Scholars and acaryas... Read Article This newsletter is sent to 258,573 subscribers. To subscribe, please visit: http://www.indiadivine.com/newsletter/index.php?action="" /> To unsubscribe, please visit: http://www.indiadivine.com/newsletter/index.php?action=""> ---End Message---
Re: [FairfieldLife] Zimmerman trial - So, it's all about race
It's been political from the get- go. This has been a lame attempt at rehabilitating the unfortunate image of many young black males in America today. If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon. The media has pushed the image of a younger, more wholesome, clean-cut Trayvon being racially profiled by a *white*, oops, *white Hispanic* vigilante. NBC was caught , red-handed, editing 911 tapes in an attempt to make Zimmerman's motives look racially charged. At the same time,the media only shows us photos of Martin some 4 -5 years younger, less intimidating, no *grill*,no mention of his reputation for fighting or drug use. The facts coming out in the trial are showing why Zimmerman was not charged in the first place. As far as I'm concerned, it's the media that is on trial and I find them guilty of misuse of the facts to promote a political agenda. From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 6:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Zimmerman trial - So, it's all about race We don't believe the focus was really race - Martin Family Attorney That's a remarkable statement to come from the Martin legal team, since race is the only reason we're having this trial at all. Everyone from the Martin family's lawyers, to the professional grievance industry, to characters like the New Black Panther Party was busy whipping up riot conditions and treating Zimmerman as a fugitive from racial justice, which led to filmmaker Spike Lee endangering the lives of an innocent couple that just happened to be named 'Zimmerman.' And there's a good reason the media referred to Zimmerman as 'white' until photos of him finally leaked out, and they had to change it to 'white Hispanic,' a very special demographic of which George Zimmerman seems to remain the only high-profile member. 'The focus most certainly is race at the Zimmerman trial' http://tinyurl.com/qz7teg2
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry and the Mystery Cultist
The following is the text from post #302425 posted by Ann on Jan 22, 2012: - OK, this subject of seminars and physical violence seems to be a very important one for some of you. I am going to include a quote I received today from my newly-connected friend/FFL lurker/former Robin follower who has given me permission to use part of her email to me. She has been following my posts and obviously saw that I was going to address this subject tonight. She is an avid FFL follower as I told you before. We shall call her GL. You should also know that she is no apologist for Robin but was a Canadian involved very early on with Robin's Victoria days. I want to start with this incident she outlines in her email because chronologically it is the first real seminar setting which took place in FF back in 1982. It is the session when Lavern was allegedly struck by Robin. It is fortunate GL emailed me what she did otherwise I could tell you nothing of the incident as I was not there, I had not yet attended any Robin gathering. It is the seminar I told you my friend had attended and had piqued my interest in Robin initially. But I digress. Here is the excerpt from GL's email to me regarding the event: Dear Ann, Here's what I remember about 'hitting' or not. I think R's account Jan.17 was about right, message# 302057 (his last post). Were you in Fairfield in summer of 1982? Somewhere in the bottom of my storage boxes is a videotape of the Fairfield incident. (I was there, on the video crew.) I don't remember who else was on stage, who hit Lavern on the shoulder/back. One of R's devoted assistants, I have a couple of ideas, but don't want to name here. He said it was an accident, he turned and accidentally made contact with her, or was trying to keep her from falling off the edge of the platform. oops! It was a shock for all of us. R was furious, and found a way to somehow incorporate the incident into the bigger unfolding story of Fairfield. Now I am not sure, because I don't have the will or the stamina to go through the long list of posts dealing with the hitting issues, why this is such a hot topic or by who(m?) it has been brought up (but I am guessing perhaps Vaj) or even what the exact questions regarding hitting are. So bear with me and may I assume it is a simple question like, Did Robin ever make physical contact with a confrontee that could be described as assault ? Hopefully that is close enough. The simple answer is, Yes, I saw Robin make/imply physical contact with a confrontee that could be described as assault. There is something you first need to know about Robin in the old days. He abhorred being touched or touching people (at least the people I know). He used a silk cloth to sit on, especially in public places, he would often have a wet cloth handed to him after making contact with his hand with someone on stage. It was so rare to get a touch from Robin that it was considered a great honour to have him lay a gentle hand on your shoulder. I have witnessed so many confrontations they must number in the hundreds. They could arise during a meal, a walk or in the far more formal setting of a taped seminar. I missed virtually nothing as I was a permanent fixture as one of two camera operators. Hours and hours standing behind a big tripod my eye to the viewfinder watching every second with our switcher in the back punching between cameras for optimal camera angles. Assault figurative attack or bombard (someone or the senses) with something undesirable or unpleasant. My dictionary gave me this definition so let's run with it. Confrontation was not that fun. Trust me on this. It could be an assault on the senses, yelling or just having to hear what you did not want to hear. And in one case I remember there was what I believe to be an assault on the body, by Robin. I only remember it as an assault because the result was that the confrontee's eyeglasses were broken. The glasses fell off of the confrontee's face and hit the ground and were broken. I do not know if they were broken while still on this man's face or broke when they hit the ground. I remember feeling very shocked and very sad because this was Robin's best, oldest male friend and the vulnerability of this man standing there with his eyeglasses shattered at his feet was deep enough to stick in my memory. I can not say if there was real force involved and there certainly wasn't blood and I can not even say if there was contact or just implied contact and the confrontee moved his head quickly and the glasses spun off. But to me this was an assault because in that moment a man appeared shattered along with his glasses. And at the time I did not understand why it had to be. So I am sorry to have to disappoint anyone hoping for a real knock down drag 'em out expose. Robin simply did not punch or kick or throw people around. He was not a physically violent man. No one
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does YF need muscle power?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: [...] Even at its most extreme, I always took the rhetoric about the TM-Sidhis as concerning control or mastery, or at least working with the laws of nature, not defeating them. It's the same thing Lawson, defeating gravity is the same as mastering it, it no longer affects you. Affects you differently might be more accurate. MMY used to say that the laws of nature in the vicinity of our planet were stupid and needed to be woken up [by group meditation and group practice of the TM-Sidhis]. The laws in the vicinity of our planet are stupid? He clearly never studied physics like he claimed then, for they are the same everywhere. The laws of nature are the devas, in Maharishi-speak. When they aren't dealt with appropriately, the behavior of the devas defaults to the laws of physics and so on. When they are dealt with appropriately, they can be reasoned with, or coaxed, or something, to behave in ways different than their default mode of conduct. Or something. Or something, yes. I sense we shouldn't be relying on these guys for our science updates. L There is waking, dreaming, sleeping, and in meditation, TC. Any of these four can cross over each other in meditation. Some individuals have more leakage between these states than others, if some current research is correct. What happens if the mind is crossing between waking and dreaming and TC and something is introduced such as a conscious thought (I am relying on others here for the description of TM's sanyama)? There is one other situation in which waking and sleeping and dreaming cross over, and that is sleepwalking, and people have been reported to have done some rather astonishing things in this state. Could sanyama be a deliberate technique to foster this state?
[FairfieldLife] Sadhus of Arunachala
Here is a pictorial of Arunachala sadhus. Enjoy! http://richardarunachala.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/sadhus-of-arunachala-a-pictorial/ Richard
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry and the Mystery Cultist
I guess you missed where this post of Ann's was discussed at some length in the recent discussion, Xeno, huh? Too bad; you thought you had discovered something that was being kept under wraps. Now, any ideas about who the Mystery Cultist might be that I quoted, the one person here who actually tried to excuse Robin's striking his students in the private setting before there were any seminars? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: The following is the text from post #302425 posted by Ann on Jan 22, 2012: - OK, this subject of seminars and physical violence seems to be a very important one for some of you. I am going to include a quote I received today from my newly-connected friend/FFL lurker/former Robin follower who has given me permission to use part of her email to me. She has been following my posts and obviously saw that I was going to address this subject tonight. She is an avid FFL follower as I told you before. We shall call her GL. You should also know that she is no apologist for Robin but was a Canadian involved very early on with Robin's Victoria days. I want to start with this incident she outlines in her email because chronologically it is the first real seminar setting which took place in FF back in 1982. It is the session when Lavern was allegedly struck by Robin. It is fortunate GL emailed me what she did otherwise I could tell you nothing of the incident as I was not there, I had not yet attended any Robin gathering. It is the seminar I told you my friend had attended and had piqued my interest in Robin initially. But I digress. Here is the excerpt from GL's email to me regarding the event: Dear Ann, Here's what I remember about 'hitting' or not. I think R's account Jan.17 was about right, message# 302057 (his last post). Were you in Fairfield in summer of 1982? Somewhere in the bottom of my storage boxes is a videotape of the Fairfield incident. (I was there, on the video crew.) I don't remember who else was on stage, who hit Lavern on the shoulder/back. One of R's devoted assistants, I have a couple of ideas, but don't want to name here. He said it was an accident, he turned and accidentally made contact with her, or was trying to keep her from falling off the edge of the platform. oops! It was a shock for all of us. R was furious, and found a way to somehow incorporate the incident into the bigger unfolding story of Fairfield. Now I am not sure, because I don't have the will or the stamina to go through the long list of posts dealing with the hitting issues, why this is such a hot topic or by who(m?) it has been brought up (but I am guessing perhaps Vaj) or even what the exact questions regarding hitting are. So bear with me and may I assume it is a simple question like, Did Robin ever make physical contact with a confrontee that could be described as assault ? Hopefully that is close enough. The simple answer is, Yes, I saw Robin make/imply physical contact with a confrontee that could be described as assault. There is something you first need to know about Robin in the old days. He abhorred being touched or touching people (at least the people I know). He used a silk cloth to sit on, especially in public places, he would often have a wet cloth handed to him after making contact with his hand with someone on stage. It was so rare to get a touch from Robin that it was considered a great honour to have him lay a gentle hand on your shoulder. I have witnessed so many confrontations they must number in the hundreds. They could arise during a meal, a walk or in the far more formal setting of a taped seminar. I missed virtually nothing as I was a permanent fixture as one of two camera operators. Hours and hours standing behind a big tripod my eye to the viewfinder watching every second with our switcher in the back punching between cameras for optimal camera angles. Assault figurative attack or bombard (someone or the senses) with something undesirable or unpleasant. My dictionary gave me this definition so let's run with it. Confrontation was not that fun. Trust me on this. It could be an assault on the senses, yelling or just having to hear what you did not want to hear. And in one case I remember there was what I believe to be an assault on the body, by Robin. I only remember it as an assault because the result was that the confrontee's eyeglasses were broken. The glasses fell off of the confrontee's face and hit the ground and were broken. I do not know if they were broken while still on this man's face or broke when they hit the ground. I remember feeling very shocked and very sad because this was Robin's best, oldest male friend and the vulnerability of this man standing there with his eyeglasses shattered at his feet was deep enough to stick in my memory. I can not say if
[FairfieldLife] Re: Trampoline Video by RD
This little gal sure is a winner. You must be just bursting your buttons, raunchy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Juliette won 3rd Place Sub-Advanced Girls Age 8, United States Trampoline Tumbling Association National Championships, Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. http://youtu.be/R7rMywzoQlU
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption
well I was not a TM meditator till 1974 and didn't know there was anything untoward about TM till about 1987 so I missed some stuff From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Dude where have you been? From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Damn! I never heard of that incident either. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Oh yeah, it happened. I just don't remember who it was. I'm thinking Billy Clayton, who became a skin- boy later. Maybe that was the *pay back* for doing the master's bidding.That was the same course that John and Yoko came to kidnap Yoko's daughter from a previous marriage, that was there with her father. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption I would love to know. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Was it Billy Clayton that got busted trying to smuggle course fees(Cash) out of Majorca to Switzerland in a suit case about '71 or '72? From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption Lawson, We don't know if that is the case in Italy today. They'll have to interrogate this official to find out who ordered the operation, for what purpose, and for how long has this been going on. This case could make Dan Brown's new novel a factual tale, which I have not read yet. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: The only incident I heard of was in Spain many decades ago at a time when, if a company or organization was NOT doing that, they were plain stupid. Some countries have had a triple digit inflation rate relatively recently. Not sure if Spain was one of them, but when I was there in 1980 or thereabouts, they had national police with submachine guns at ever major street corner in anticipation of riots due to the closing of the national banks. L --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: He should have talked to Girish and marshy's other kin folk - I hear the Movement people did that crap all the time and got away with it. From: John jr_esq@ To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 1:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Vatican Official Arrested for Corruption  He tried to bring in millions of euros in cash from Switzerland without going through customs. Further investigation of this case could disclose many ugly details. One wonders how many mistresses this crook is keeping by stealing from the church coffers. This is a case of Jupiter turning into a malefic. When it does, it steals millions through organized crime. http://news.yahoo.com/vatican-official-arrested-corruption-plot-075720910.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry and the Mystery Cultist
Indeed, I had not followed the whole discussion, it was the first post in the thread you had mentioned. I do not even remember if I read the post when it was originally posted by Ann. I vaguely remember something of that thread. What I thought was most interesting about it was Robin not really liking to touch people or being touched. My interest is not much in this striking business, but what his state of mind was then, and what it might be now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: I guess you missed where this post of Ann's was discussed at some length in the recent discussion, Xeno, huh? Too bad; you thought you had discovered something that was being kept under wraps. Now, any ideas about who the Mystery Cultist might be that I quoted, the one person here who actually tried to excuse Robin's striking his students in the private setting before there were any seminars? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: The following is the text from post #302425 posted by Ann on Jan 22, 2012: - OK, this subject of seminars and physical violence seems to be a very important one for some of you. I am going to include a quote I received today from my newly-connected friend/FFL lurker/former Robin follower who has given me permission to use part of her email to me. She has been following my posts and obviously saw that I was going to address this subject tonight. She is an avid FFL follower as I told you before. We shall call her GL. You should also know that she is no apologist for Robin but was a Canadian involved very early on with Robin's Victoria days. I want to start with this incident she outlines in her email because chronologically it is the first real seminar setting which took place in FF back in 1982. It is the session when Lavern was allegedly struck by Robin. It is fortunate GL emailed me what she did otherwise I could tell you nothing of the incident as I was not there, I had not yet attended any Robin gathering. It is the seminar I told you my friend had attended and had piqued my interest in Robin initially. But I digress. Here is the excerpt from GL's email to me regarding the event: Dear Ann, Here's what I remember about 'hitting' or not. I think R's account Jan.17 was about right, message# 302057 (his last post). Were you in Fairfield in summer of 1982? Somewhere in the bottom of my storage boxes is a videotape of the Fairfield incident. (I was there, on the video crew.) I don't remember who else was on stage, who hit Lavern on the shoulder/back. One of R's devoted assistants, I have a couple of ideas, but don't want to name here. He said it was an accident, he turned and accidentally made contact with her, or was trying to keep her from falling off the edge of the platform. oops! It was a shock for all of us. R was furious, and found a way to somehow incorporate the incident into the bigger unfolding story of Fairfield. Now I am not sure, because I don't have the will or the stamina to go through the long list of posts dealing with the hitting issues, why this is such a hot topic or by who(m?) it has been brought up (but I am guessing perhaps Vaj) or even what the exact questions regarding hitting are. So bear with me and may I assume it is a simple question like, Did Robin ever make physical contact with a confrontee that could be described as assault ? Hopefully that is close enough. The simple answer is, Yes, I saw Robin make/imply physical contact with a confrontee that could be described as assault. There is something you first need to know about Robin in the old days. He abhorred being touched or touching people (at least the people I know). He used a silk cloth to sit on, especially in public places, he would often have a wet cloth handed to him after making contact with his hand with someone on stage. It was so rare to get a touch from Robin that it was considered a great honour to have him lay a gentle hand on your shoulder. I have witnessed so many confrontations they must number in the hundreds. They could arise during a meal, a walk or in the far more formal setting of a taped seminar. I missed virtually nothing as I was a permanent fixture as one of two camera operators. Hours and hours standing behind a big tripod my eye to the viewfinder watching every second with our switcher in the back punching between cameras for optimal camera angles. Assault figurative attack or bombard (someone or the senses) with something undesirable or unpleasant. My dictionary gave me this definition so let's run with it. Confrontation was not that fun. Trust me on this. It could be an assault on the senses, yelling or just having to hear what you did not want to hear. And in one case I
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry and the Mystery Cultist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Indeed, I had not followed the whole discussion, it was the first post in the thread you had mentioned. I do not even remember if I read the post when it was originally posted by Ann. I vaguely remember something of that thread. What I thought was most interesting about it was Robin not really liking to touch people or being touched. My interest is not much in this striking business, but what his state of mind was then, and what it might be now. And you find the fact that he didn't like to touch or be touched 30-some years ago, and whether he still doesn't, of interest why? You know what, Xeno? I'm much more interested in *your* state of mind. I find your obsessive fascination with Robin's current state of mind (i.e., sanity)--your attempt to find a way to publicly pin a psychiatric diagnosis on him--more than a little unhealthy. And the sneaky way you go about it is just plain creepy. Now, what about the Mystery Cultist? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: I guess you missed where this post of Ann's was discussed at some length in the recent discussion, Xeno, huh? Too bad; you thought you had discovered something that was being kept under wraps. Now, any ideas about who the Mystery Cultist might be that I quoted, the one person here who actually tried to excuse Robin's striking his students in the private setting before there were any seminars?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Thanks. (-: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Good to hear, Steve. I like you, your posts. I was only trying to annoyingly put attention on something that has way too much attention. If I was to post a bunch of crap that happened around my life on here, it would become the same. Controversial, entertaining, fun, stupid and eventually annoying. Toasted ravioli's I honestly did not check out that link. ha. Maybe I could make some from home? Glad to see you back in good spirits. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Good news. I've got a better understanding of the situation and am ready to move on. I'm sorry if the process didn't move along at your prescribed time table. Perhaps I can do better next time. P.S. If you ever come to St. Louis, I recommend you try the toasted raviolis. We seem to be the only place you can get them. Be sure to get some extra parmesan cheese and extra marinara sauce. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Ahh, nothing like a little animation to the alleged story, here, boys and girls. Let's go deeper into the rabbit hole http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDxgvMHCDXA Stop, Steve! This whole thing is looking ridicules to us all and as you say, I am not Shakespeare, (Don't have a dick, like you say that I am infatuated with.) the draining of time and place on a subject to prove what? About someone not even posting here anymore...you must want to desire to see that person post again. I can't take it anymore! Stop! Steve! Stop! Please! Go after Nabby at least, because he will at least attempt to rebuttal and maybe even through in a really nice song or two from the way back machine. You sir, are picking on a man who is not present. If he were dead, than that is fair game too, to contemplate the what was, has been aspects. Become that nice person you were before. Be the husband, the father, the man with a life. Please don't let us down to think if we all had a life as grand as yours, we would be posting here on FFL? :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Why he didn't say, right from the start, yes I have struck my students, and here's the context Two reasons. One, he was accused of striking his students in a very specific context in which he believed he had not done so; and two--well, you'll need to read the Open Letter for that reason. Why not clarify it at the outset? Someone makes a rather serious charge, why not take the time at that moment to set the record straight. If, as he says, the truth was going to come out, address it in a pre-emptive fashion. He offers some rationale for why he did not do that, and leaves it to others to decide if this indicated integrity on his part, or a lack of integrity. From the open letter: When Vaj first accused me of hitting someone at a seminar, I knew it was not true. After all, many persons were there for the first time. Had I done what I was accused of, a majority of those who had never before attended a seminar would have walked out. I don't remember a single person leaving a seminar. It was just not ripe for me to explain all this. I did not deny something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. And knew, probably, eventually the truth would come out, which might have the appearance of my having at the very least equivocated on this matter. But my conscience is clear. I never hesitated for a moment in knowing it was premature of me to on the one hand deny having done what I was accused of in one contextwhich was true: I did not strike anyone during a seminarwhile at the same time feeling an obligation to acknowledge that this indeed did in fact happenon rare occasionsin a quite different and more intimate context. I will leave it to the readers of FFL to determine whether I am morally culpable in having acted as I have. And this part, from an earlier part of the open letter, were his reasons for the striking. So why not just address the issue since it had been raised rather than giving, at least, the appearance of trying to conceal it. But he evidently had his reasons for letting it play out the way it did, so I will respect that. If the person seemed so identified with this deceitful representation of themselves through the malice of this fallen angel that they were in fact defending or upholding the integrity of themselves in resisting the beneficent and merciful inspiration of my
[FairfieldLife] Re: The #1 Symptom of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: He didn't lie. As he said: I did not deny something I knew was true. I denied what I was accused of. Hey Judy, can you flesh this out a little. Provide some examples where this would be a meaningful distinction? Not sure what you mean by examples. As you know, it refers to one specific situation, and the meaningful distinction is inherent in the two sentences anyway. You can read them in full context in the repost I just made of Robin's Open Letter. In other words, Go back and read what I wrote before, Dummy. Another way of saying, I HAVE SPOKEN. The matter is closed, because *I* have declared it closed. You get a lot of this from people suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder -- declaring their subjective experience reality, and expecting people to buy it.