at http://www.tinyurl.com/2p7pvh
Allen says MMY is dim-witted in politics.
http://www.tinyurl.com/2xpc8s
Sunflower Sutra
I walked on the banks of the tincan banana dock and
sat down under the huge shade of a Southern
Pacific locomotive to look at the sunset over the
box house hills and cry.
Jack Kerouac sat beside me on a busted rusty iron
pole, companion, we though
---Used car salesman. Would that be Werner Erhard of est fame?
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> TurquoiseB wrote:
> > I'm on a few "spiritual forums," and on only one of
> > them has Maharishi's name even come up.
> >
> Hey, Barry, you
---Precisely! and btw; promoting "just" the technique is problematic
since TM is fully entrenched within the "Holy Tradition", part and
parcel of Sanatana Dharma; all wrapped within a cake. The frosting
on the cake is the outer covering of what people call "religion". So,
no, one cannot reall
---Question to anyone: What was MMY's original objective?. Was it
accomplished...if not fully, what %?
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> An MUM Governor-faculty member sent this to a friend, as fairly
accurate
> notes of today's most historic tim
---Interesting anti-TM diatribe. Who wrote that, Manning? -ro-flex?
OK, what's his (Manning, if you're reading this...) solution to life's
problems. Do nothing?
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.suggestibility.org/surprise.php
>
> Stumbleupo
---True, but not all paths have the same objective. Some want the 72
Virgins.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Steve, that sounds really sensible.
>
> steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I really
Individual defined as: (online dictionary).
1. a single human being, as distinguished from a group.
2. a person: a strange individual.
3. a distinct, indivisible entity; a single thing, being, instance,
or item.
4. a group considered as a unit.
5. Biology. a. a single organism capable of
---No, you're wrong. In a broad definition of "individual", one can
define an entity as become composed of relative components that do
not converge on a "entity" called the I. Thus, Ramana Maharshi is
definitely an individual, otherwise he would not dare use such words
as "I" and "me" in the
-`Be that word our sign of parting, bird or fiend!' I shrieked
upstarting -
`Get thee back into the tempest and the Night's Plutonian shore!
Leave no black plume as a token of that lie thy soul hath spoken!
Leave my loneliness unbroken! - quit the bust above my door!
Take thy beak from out my hear
--thanks, I have that book; but he's incorrect: the mind doesn't die.
An "I" associated with mind-identification dies. Mind was a medium
by which the message of Sri Lakshmana was conveyed to David Godman.
Therefore, it's very much alive. Also, shortly after Lakshmana
realized the Self, he wen
---quite true, authfriend, I like your analysis! Looks like she was
on the verge of a genuine spontaneous breakthrough into pure
Consciousness (the "Presense" mentioned); but the organized Church is
basically incapable of providing a nurturing environment for such
development; since although th
http://theworsthorse.net/brit.html
---Somebody mentioned that an insult naming an anatomical part would
be inappropriate. Saythe part that follows from "go suck
your.". Of course, this would be the elbow since that would not
only be inappropriate, but impossible for most people.
Instead of medications, I would recomme
--The bottom like is what is the "meaning" of redemption, of the
purported substitionary death? I haven't seen any difference in the
karma of fundie Christians and others. They seem to pay karmically
just as others; if so, then the payoff could be after death?
This is speculative. Personally,
---they could be extraterrestrial aliens, in which case they would
be "hatchlings".
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "martyboi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I was walking down a street in SF once when I came upon a clutch
> (gaggle, swarm, school?) of her sisters walking towards me. I heard
>
---It's either "us" getting control of the oil or "them". Better us!
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> (snip)
> >
> > Robert, we understand your point. But we cannot just criticize
the
> > system in this one particular country. IMHO, the att
---http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garab_Dorje
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Huen Tisang was as real/unreal as you or me. Uddiyana was as
real/unreal as the USA.
> The muslims jihadists who murdered everyone and turned uddiyana
into a wasteland wer
---Below: Robert says we don't get Enlightened in order to perform
magic tricks. First, true Siddhis are not tricks, by definition.
Second, my POV is different. The whole point of Enlightenment is to
reach a platform where (having captured the fort); one is in a
position to evolve further in t
--"Be that word our sign in parting, bird or fiend," I shrieked,
upstarting-
"Get thee back into the tempest and the Night's Plutonian shore!
Leave no black plume as a token of that lie thy soul hath spoken!
Leave my loneliness unbroken!- quit the bust above my door!
Take th
---"Onward TM Soldiers":
Onward, TM soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of The Mahareeshee going on before.
King Nader, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
Forward into battle see His banners go!
Refrain:
Onward, TM soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Bevan going on befo
---except for the natural "drugs" (neurotransmitters) produced by your
own body, some of them similar to the drug DMT.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote:
> > Yet Jim in a post yesterday dismi
---
But why in the world would "one" want to be internalized in a
disasociative state oblivous to the outside world? The idea that
such a state of Samadhi is somehow an advanced symptom of
Spirituality was propagated by Ramakrishna, who frequently "went into
Samadhi", all the while traveling (
--
Below - primordial sounds prior to mantras. (Precisely the point of
the Sant Mat Gurus!)the so-called Yoga of Light and Sound.
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On May 23, 200
http://www.tinyurl.com/ypre54
-"Seeing into the Buddha fields" is irrelevant, unless you define it
(the seeing of something) rather broadly. Did Shankara see into the
Buddha fields? Did Ramana Maharshi.??
How about: "seeing into the Ramana Maharshi fields" as a requirement,
or "seeing into the SBS fields"??
-- In Fairfie
---IMO : the "pure" (Consciousness only) neo-Advaitin viewpoint begs
the question of why in the world "one" would even talk about
Enlightenment, or even "accept" something such as the statement of a
neo-Advaitin Guru such as HWL Poonja: "Ye are already Enlightened".
Doesn't make sense. If "th
---thanks, all has to do with the arrows of time; ie. about 8 semi-
distinct (but all related) apparent, real, (or both) groups of
phenomena which point to a linear progression of events which people
interpret as time. Among the various arrows, physicists are MOST
interested in the Entropic arr
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Feb 22, 2007, at 7:45 PM, qntmpkt wrote:
> >
> > > As could be expected, Harris batted Sullivan's pseudo-argument
out of
> > > the park into the next co
--Re: Vaj says that Tibetan Buddhist yidam worship is not "really"
god worship and therefore (a) is dissimilar to Hindui worship -
being part of "wisdom" oriented sadhana.(b) doesn't fall under the
scrutiny of Sam Harris' attacks on faith-based religion.
Nope, factually incorrect since the G
--- Thanks, re: MMY not publishing the 2nd half of the Gita, some
speculations have arisen on this point, from different quarters. The
Hare Krishnas believe that he's being ignorant, obstinate, and
malicious in leaving out Krishna-Bhakti.
A few others have mentioned that the inclusion of Kris
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>(below): typical Neo-Advaita nonsense. The discussion pertains to
the body, in the relative sense.
> You are making assumptions out of waking state. In
> realization there is nobody to go anyplace.
>
> --- Jeff Fischer <[EM
http://www.tibetancho.com/Assets/Cho.html
One might construe N's orientation as being fully "non-attached" ...or
not; perhaps he lacks interest in relative considerations. Being
external obserers, we don't know what the true situation is for sure.
It's analogous to a Turing machine test: either a computer or a real
person is answering
---Thanks, actually Harris is a Buddhist, (although he tends not to
publicize this fact); but in any event, he's a different brand of
athiest than Dawkins and Dennett. He's not a great fan of scientism,
but would prefer to have rational discourses on the nature of the
mind, in the context of di
-- Nisargadata Maharaj is one of those Neo-Advaitin "Nihilists" who
states that he's Pure Consciousness, but refuses to acknowledge his
existence in the relative world. (these teachings are inconsistent
with what MMY says...since Brahman has two aspects in One, not one
aspect in One.). Thanks
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel"
> wrote:
> >
> > "My Dome Rejection" From Shiva Ma Ryan
> >
> >
> > FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, "My Dome Rejection"
> > Please share this letter I wrote to Joh
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock
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> > >
> > > The flying program was not wonderful. A total failure.
> Yogi
--- Re: US News and World Reprt, July 24, 2006, "An Alarming Link";
"New studies say diabetes leads to Alzheimer's. Still, that raises
hope for novel brain treatments".
More Evidence that Alzheimer's is Type 3 diabetes:
http://www.tinyurl.com/fsgy9,
http://www.tinyurl.com/kzznm
Controlling blo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>(below: Peter says E not "caused" by a physiological state. ) I
don't believe various groups of people are saying that. They are
saying "correlation", not cause. We can point to at least 3 known
groups of people whose sup
--Chimps have better short-term memory than humans.
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---Thanks, Jim...(below - do I have any answers of my own? Not to
any single, arbitrarily picked Sidhi you can pick out of a hat, or a
particular solution to a mathematical problem) (say, the Riemann
Hypothesis); but I do have at least 500 entries in Sloane's
Encyclopedia of Integer sequences
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "hyperbolicgeometry"
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"No words can describe it,
No example can point to it,
Samsara does not make it worse,
Nirvana does not make it better,
It has never been born,
It has never ceased,
It has never been liberat
During the 70's a large Monastery existed in the Topanga/Malibu area;
which was unfortunately leveled by a fire (not surprising, since
fires are frequent in those hills).
In regard to the contributor a few posts back who remarked that
the "karmic" explanation for such events often serve no
---
---Now I'm wondering if the Scientology "Dark Lord Xenu" was one of
these Mormon gods in another universe.
--- http://www.utlm.org/faqs/faqgeneral.htm
>
> Interesting set of questions and answers by Evangelical Christian
> (and great-great-granddaughter of LDS leader Brigham Young); San
---
Religion & Paranormal
The Transcendental Temptation: A Critique of Religion and the
Paranormal
by Paul Kurtz. Published by Prometheus Books.
Guide Rating -
Is there some basic connection between religious beliefs and
paranormal beliefs? Some commonality which helps ex
---
from http://www.secularhumanism.org
2. If religion were necessary for morality, there should be some
evidence that atheists are less moral than believers.
People of faith regularly allege that atheism is responsible for some
of the most appalling crimes of the twentieth century. Are
--
from http://www.secularhumanism.org
Evolution
Today the theory of evolution is again under heavy attack by
religious fundamentalists. Although the theory of evolution cannot be
said to have reached its final formulation, or to be an infallible
principle of science, it is nonetheless supp
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Paul Kurtz says no. ("Free Inquiry", June/July, 2006, p. 33 "Why I
am
a Skeptic about Religious Claims"):
"...theists maintain that one cannot be good unless one believes in
God. Skepticism about God's existence and divine plan does not imply
pessimism, nihilism, the collapse of all
---
good question!!
"Where was God?'
The leader of 1.1 billion Roman Catholics also prayed for peace in
his native German, which he has mostly avoided to not hurt Polish and
Jewish sensitivities. He was forced to join the Hitler Youth and
drafted into the army during the war.
Scattere
The QM theories of Hagelin, et al; are relative considerations and have
nothing to do with the topic of Pure Consciousness.
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Some of the early quantum pioneers considered the relationship
between pure Consciousness and phenomena, concluding that the
Transcendent in the context of Brahman "points" to analogous concepts
in physics; but contrary to what MMY would have people believe, there
is no physics of his "Unifi
--Right, Charlie wasn't interested in the Sidhis "crap". The
question is, what's right for YOU?
Try the following program, and you will see noticeable benefits in
30 days:
1. Practice TM
2. Take one tablet of Vinpocetine sublingual before meditation.
(warning - be careful if you are taking
--- HMuktananda's case differed since strong evidence points
to the "victims" being underage. Thus, they (some, many, all?) were
not adults. Thus, they were victims.
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(has a sprinkling of Hindus and Buddhists, but no TM'ers - as a
religion). This shows that the TM'ers are unlikely to develop into
Superheros without some Supernatural guidance.
http://
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Says Superman is Methodist and "Kryptonian".
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Imaginary scenario...what are the responses of the Gurus?:
A Guru is lecturing in a hall with devotees, when some terrorist
bandits come in and demand money from everyone; if the money is not
forthcoming, the Guru's fingers will be cut off.
Some people in the group fail to fork over their
---Effortless or not (nothing in the world is "absolutely" effortless
btw); the key point is Transcendental awareness. If it (pure
Consciousness, Self-awareness), occurs for you regardless of the
amount of effort, excellent.
Having exposed the primary goal, the question of effort is important
in d
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> http://tinyurl.com/7j6nc
and check out his website at http://www.samharris.org
Here's an except from the above tinyurl in which Harris compares
Western religion and Eastern Mysticism (particularly Buddhism).:
With respect to spiritual practice, however, the disparity clearly
runs th
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Photos and excerpts from the book of Swami Krishnananda, a disciple of
Swami Sivananda. The latter (a contemporary of Guru Dev who had an
Ashram in Rishikesh ) asserts that the "TM" mantras are names of the
Gods. Find out for yourself with a brief google search.
http://www.swami-krishnanand
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--- "hyperbolicgeometry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Douglas Harding is an important Neo-Advaitin by virtue of his first
> book, "On Having No Head"...which ironically is all about a stage,
or
> progressive level of attainment on the road to Enligh
--- "hyperbolicgeometry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A closer examination of some of the Source material of the Neo-
Advaitin school (Andrew Cohen, I Nome, Arunachala Ramana, Adyashanti,
Gangaji...etc); reveals a distictive body of arguments designed to
convert the aspirant
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---Can't find pics of these Dudes, but they claim to be Enlightend
devotees of Ramana Maharshi. Website at http://www.satramana.org
Various criticisms of interest; (the usual messing around with
disciples wives, m
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Get a synchronistic picture of your psychological state before and
after meditation. Pics change each minute and are sent in from around
the world:
http://www.humanclock.com
Click on to the square at top
--That's the flaw in your reasoning, Peter: supposed multiple
Dharmas. There's just "Dharma"...not one for CC, one for other
states, etc. In any state of awareness, desires "occur" since they
are DRIVEN by bodily impulses which are ingrained patterns of
behavior. (occuring before, and after En
-Excellent point! but even with "evidence" the diehard scientific
materialists like the Amazing Randi, Michael Shermer, biologist
Richard Dawkins, etcwouldn't even accept the reality of ordinary
psychic experiences let alone the extraordinary ones. Basically, it
(the paradigm shift) all bo
In private conversations with Charlie Lutes, he stated that he didn't
approve of the "scientific baloney" coming out of MIU; and he
questioned MMY's "wisdom" in bringing the flying siddhi, saying it was
a lot of crap.
I tried to convince him to take over as leader of an alternative (to
MIU an
---Right! As a matter of fact, Ramakrishna Himself predicted a
future incarnation of his own, (I believe 200 years after his death)
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shanti2218411" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ---The assertion that enlightenment results in the cessation of the
> expereince of
---Right on!...and "a foolish fish never takes the same bait twice".
and "you can't fool all of the fools all of the timebut "
...hyperbolic geometry.
"Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For me it's more like:
>
> I see with my own eyes that dad cannot swim, even though
> I believed he
--Or, "they" are really Enlightened but Enlightenment isn't what it's
cracked up to be.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 5/16/05 4:56 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I've got a serious question for everybody and no
> > implicit c
-More jewels of wisdom (below). In addition, most Buddhists are
nihilists and have been duped into the false idea that after getting
Enlightened, dropping the body (and all subtle bodies) is a "higher"
state of evolution than maintaining a body. Even on logical grounds
this is baloney since th
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