--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
p...]
Can one be falsely inspired and uplifted? Many proclamations,
initiatives and themes of the TMO inspired many us in the past. At
least some now seem empty -- a false inspiration. Inspired by a
I think the key here is simple authenticity regardless
if the experience is good or bad, pleasant or
unpleasant. Most spiritual movements like the TMO
generate an atmosphere of subtle (and at times not so
subtle) moodmaking that denies one's simple experience
if it is not in accord with the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I think the key here is simple authenticity regardless
if the experience is good or bad, pleasant or
unpleasant. Most spiritual movements like the TMO
generate an atmosphere of subtle (and at times not so
subtle)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
The Internet, whatever else it may be, is NOT a
suitable forum for satsang, or for any style of
teaching that requires the student to perceive
the overall vibe of the teacher and respond to
it. The vibe just
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
The Internet, whatever else it may be, is NOT a
suitable forum for satsang, or for any style of
teaching that requires the student to perceive
the overall vibe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
no_reply@ wrote:
snip
The Internet, whatever else it may be, is NOT a
suitable forum for satsang, or for any style
on 5/24/06 12:29 AM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Is there already a silent presumption that Tolle is realized -- and
thus a parallel presumption that his words are valid and/or relevant?
He says he is, and speaks as though he is.
Do you find the words inspiring
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TorguiseB writes snipped:
Diggin' in the dirt looking for the cause of darkness is fine if
that's your predilection in life, but I've had remarkable success
with just turning on the light, and
Thanks for your comments. My questions are not leading ones. I
don't have a goal I am trying to lead readers to. I could answer many
of the questions from different angles with different answers. But I
find such questions useful in clarifying core assumptions. Even the
most interesting -- those
on 5/24/06 10:15 AM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Thanks for your comments. My questions are not leading ones. I
don't have a goal I am trying to lead readers to. I could answer many
of the questions from different angles with different answers. But I
find such
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not digging in the dirt is the rationale used by many sidhas here
when they move into a S-ved home as a way of solving their marital
communication problems, or do a yagya as a way to treat their
chronic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the key here is simple authenticity regardless
if the experience is good or bad, pleasant or
unpleasant. Most spiritual movements like the TMO
generate an atmosphere of subtle (and at times not so
subtle)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
wrote:
--- authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
no_reply@ wrote:
snip
The Internet, whatever
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
markmeredith@ wrote:
Not digging in the dirt is the rationale used by many sidhas here
when they move into a S-ved home as a way of solving their marital
on 5/24/06 10:28 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not digging in the dirt is the rationale used by many sidhas here
when they move into a S-ved home as a way of solving their marital
communication
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the key here is simple authenticity regardless
if the experience is good or bad, pleasant or
unpleasant. Most spiritual movements like the TMO
generate an atmosphere of subtle (and at times not so
subtle)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote:
TorguiseB writes snipped:
Diggin' in the dirt looking for the cause of darkness is fine if
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
wrote:
--- authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
wrote:
--- authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
markmeredith@ wrote:
Not digging in the dirt is the rationale used by many sidhas here
when they move into a S-ved home as a way of solving their marital
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
markmeredith@ wrote:
Not digging in the dirt is the rationale used by many sidhas
here when they move into a S-ved home as a way of solving their
marital
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shirleybrahman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark et al
On the other hand, talk therapy with a good therapist can be
invaluable. I grew up in a fairly typical and extremely dysfuntional
home-too many kids, one parent clearly shouldn't have had any kids
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shirleybrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark et al
On the other hand, talk therapy with a good therapist can be
invaluable. I grew up in a fairly typical and extremely dysfuntional
home-too many kids, one parent clearly shouldn't have had any kids
Nearly all of my friends everywhere are TMers, whether lapsed, moved
on to other orgs or like myself moved on to none at all and just
living life. I do think my TM mantra every day, sometimes just lying
down on my way to dreamland at night, sometimes I use other mantras,
sometimes I just enjoy
So, if all this is extremely helpful and you haven't been involved in
TM in 15 years, what are you doing here? Participation here is a waste
of time for everyone, of course, but certainly for someone who outgrew
TM 15 years ago and has had great experiences since...
I know this was not
on 5/24/06 11:19 AM, shirleybrahman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FFLife is a way to see what's what. It's flavor has changed and since
LB and DOug Hamilton, Phil Goldberg and a few others have stopped
posting it's a lot less interesting, yet I find there is still
something to be gained from
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, if all this is extremely helpful and you haven't been
involved in TM in 15 years, what are you doing here?
Participation here is a waste of time for everyone, of
course, but certainly for someone who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, if all this is extremely helpful and you haven't been involved in
TM in 15 years, what are you doing here? Participation here is a waste
of time for everyone, of course, but certainly for someone who outgrew
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
So, if all this is extremely helpful and you haven't been
involved in TM in 15 years, what are you doing here?
Participation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
So, if all this is extremely helpful and you haven't been
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
In a way, it's like that bar where the regulars had
heard all the jokes so many times that they didn't
even bother telling them any more. They
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
In a way, it's like that bar where the regulars had
heard all the jokes so
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree there's a severe limit to the progress that can be made with
talk therapy that focuses on intellectual analysis of past hurts. But
the fact remains that you can't transcend your way out of deep
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree there's a severe limit to the progress that can be made with
talk therapy that focuses on intellectual analysis of past hurts. But
the fact remains that you can't transcend your way out of deep
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I
have several friends who Awakened recently, and they say that soon
thereafter, the shit hit the fan. They began feeling guilt and other
emotions that needed dealing with a thousand times more intensely than
before
on 5/24/06 1:42 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I
have several friends who Awakened recently, and they say that soon
thereafter, the shit hit the fan. They began feeling guilt and other
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I
have several friends who Awakened recently, and they say that soon
thereafter, the shit hit the fan. They began feeling guilt and other
emotions that needed dealing with a thousand times more intensely than
before
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
I
have several friends who Awakened recently, and they say that soon
thereafter, the shit hit the fan. They began feeling guilt and other
emotions that needed dealing with a thousand times more intensely
than
On May 24, 2006, at 2:42 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I
have several friends who Awakened recently, and they say that soon
thereafter, the shit hit the fan. They began feeling guilt and other
emotions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
wrote:
I
have several friends who Awakened recently, and they say that
soon
thereafter, the shit hit the fan. They began feeling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The Self in each of us recognizes the Self in another. We are
conscious of this to one degree or another, whether our Self has
been fully awakened to us, or not.
This is how someone somewhat Awake will
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
on 5/24/06 2:02 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I
have several friends who Awakened recently, and they say that soon
thereafter, the shit hit the fan. They began feeling guilt and other
on 5/24/06 2:11 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
I
have several friends who Awakened recently, and they say that soon
thereafter, the shit hit the fan. They began feeling guilt and other
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/24/06 2:02 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Or that the
label Awakening has much of a common connotation to many --
and thus elucidates more than it obscures?
I think most of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 5/24/06 2:02 PM, new_morning_blank_slate
Asking the same question that you asked Vaj, why do you make
unprovable assumption that these people are Awakened?
'cause I have more to go on than he did. I've
on 5/24/06 3:04 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could it be that the post-wakening period you're
talking about is similar? Some people have nothing
but a good time with it, and others have some issues
to work through. But it depends on what they carried
with them into the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 5/24/06 3:04 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could it be that the post-wakening period you're
talking about is similar? Some people have nothing
but a good time with it, and others have some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
fairfieldlife@ wrote:
on 5/24/06 2:02 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Or that the
label Awakening has much of a common
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
wrote:
on 5/24/06 3:04 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could it be that the post-wakening period you're
talking about is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
fairfieldlife@ wrote:
on 5/24/06 2:02 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at
[EMAIL
On May 24, 2006, at 4:21 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote:
My question stems from some/many here appear to reject some /many
attributes that MMY associates with CC.
Yeah I noticed that to. However there is a tendency to use more
convenient parts of those definitions. In almost all cases
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 24, 2006, at 4:21 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote:
My question stems from some/many here appear to reject some /many
attributes that MMY associates with CC.
Yeah I noticed that to. However there is a tendency
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
wrote:
on 5/24/06 3:04 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
I am not sure anyone can claim this is the original -- but the way I
always heard it was, some people just can't tell a joke.
And while this is one of my favorite jokes, I can't image anyone who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/24/06 1:42 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
wrote:
I
have several friends who Awakened recently, and they say that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
wrote:
I
have several friends who Awakened recently, and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
This reminds me of a comedy 'concert' I attended in the SF Bay area
many years ago (...included Ellen Degeneres (sp?) before she was
well known), and one of the routines consisted of a comic getting on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
On May 24, 2006, at 5:28 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/24/06 1:42 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
wrote:
I
on 5/24/06 4:28 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/24/06 1:42 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
wrote:
I
have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/24/06 4:28 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote:
on 5/24/06 1:42 PM, new_morning_blank_slate at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
On May 24, 2006, at 6:08 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
No, his term was Self Actualization. Most people on this forum share a
common definition of Self Realization.
Which is?
To subscribe, send a message to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Or go to:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK. Then you appear to be stating that Awakening or at
least your personal awakening, is a state of constant and
non-ending illusion. Is that correct?
Can't speak for Jim, but I have no problem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 24, 2006, at 6:08 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
wrote:
---
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On May 24, 2006, at 4:21 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote:
I ask you both, with no rancor, do you believe that
the higher states of consciousness can
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
And in your worldview, what do you call the state where all
illusions
have been dissolved?
'the state where all illusions have been
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
And in your worldview, what do you call the state where all
illusions
have been dissolved?
'the state where all
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On May 24, 2006, at 4:21 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote:
I ask you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
And in your worldview, what do you call the state where all
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On May 24, 2006, at 4:21 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote:
I ask you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
And in your worldview, what do you call
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
So shit is rejection. OK Rev. Jim.
Fuck you.
So I assume ideal social behavior and no anger (from the MMY
18)
are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
So shit is rejection. OK Rev. Jim.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
I have asked because some/many would not associate illusions with
awakening. They describe the state of illusion with terms
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
I have asked because some/many would not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
I have asked because some/many would not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
no_reply@ wrote:
As I said before, whether you
accept it or not makes no difference to me.
I rarely accept unprovable assertions as a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
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If one is using E. or similar terms, but meaning a
state with different attributes than the MMY 18, its honest
and an act of integrity to clarify that.
I define enlightenment as having all of the
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As I said before, whether you
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no_reply@ wrote:
If one is using E. or similar terms, but meaning a
state with different attributes than the MMY 18, its honest
and an act of
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If one is using E. or similar terms, but meaning a
state with different attributes than the MMY 18, its honest
and an act of
on 5/24/06 3:04 PM, TurquoiseB at
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Could it be that the post-wakening period you're
talking about is similar? Some people have nothing
but a good time with it, and others have some issues
to work through. But it
--Thanks, but this (the Sahaj or natural state) doesn't address the
question of material addictions that some (apparently) E'd Gurus have
after the Realization. Their names are legend.
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on 5/24/06 3:04 PM,
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--Thanks, but this (the Sahaj or natural state) doesn't address the
question of material addictions that some (apparently) E'd Gurus
have
after the Realization. Their names are legend.
Yes, this is a good
Funny! The way I heard the punchline to this was, finally one of the
residents stood up and said 92 and the place just fell apart with
laughter, people banging on the tables, rolling on the floor with
side-splitting, gut-busting laughter.
The new guy turned to his friend and asked Why is that
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From my 12 year experience in Alanon 12 step it would appear to me
that virtualy all of us were attracted to the movement because of
our abusive backgrounds. Not only were most of us that way
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
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blissbunn1 writes snipped:
Whoever asked about how many meditators, siddha's, teachers yadda
yadda had abusive childhoods is on to a very illuminating thesis. Do
you think a study like that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote:
blissbunn1 writes snipped:
Whoever asked about how many meditators, siddha's, teachers yadda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
In other words, after nearly 40 years on a spiritual
path, I really don't believe that the only way one can
get past one's samskaras is to bottom out on them.
One can also transcend them, or have them fall away
TorquiseB writes snipped:
Just following up because I think it's an interesting
subject, I think that the key to the above point of
view is in the last sentence. That is, one tends to
view the world in terms of one's own experience. The
author in question had problems with addiction; there-
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TorquiseB writes snipped:
Just following up because I think it's an interesting
subject, I think that the key to the above point of
view is in the last sentence. That is, one tends to
view
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TorquiseB writes snipped:
Just following up because I think it's an interesting
subject, I
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