[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke

2005-10-27 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you leave dualistic vision and begin integrating non-dual Vision many people encounter a plane filled with what seems to be an endless plane of small pyramids. A city of pyramids. On closer inspection you see these

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news.....now studies

2005-10-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unlikely to be the other factors that were considered, of course. The problem with research like this is that you can never prove that you allowed for ALL possible factors. This is why scientists prefer

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke

2005-10-27 Thread Vaj
On Oct 27, 2005, at 5:28 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote:Can anyone with a human body be really like that?Of course. For some people spirituality is a refined form of narcissism. That's why it's always important to know your deepest intent--and to "check" that intent--when undergoing practice.

[FairfieldLife] 27 States of consciousness: gaps in transcendence etc.

2005-10-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I think you are on to something here. My attunement these days is definitely, and perhaps always has been in the visible light to ultraviolet spectrum. Love that ultraviolet!!! Here's some more on the

[FairfieldLife] was [Re: HA HA - A name and form joke] Pyramid souls

2005-10-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 2005, at 5:28 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote: Can anyone with a human body be really like that? Of course. For some people spirituality is a refined form of narcissism. That's why it's always important to know

[FairfieldLife] Re: 27 States of consciousness: gaps in transcendence etc.

2005-10-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I think you are on to something here. My attunement these days is definitely, and perhaps always has been in the visible light

[FairfieldLife] was [Re: HA HA - A name and form joke] Pyramid souls

2005-10-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These 'pyramid people' present an interesting challenge to our attachments and boundaries. If we look within ourselves, particularly in waking state, who of us would not want to cease struggling, cease dealing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Florida anyone out there?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/26/05 8:43 PM, pibssmith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any Floridians with power that are online here on our stie yet? Very frustrating not to be able to get thru to family and friends even by cellphones. That would be Dr. Pete. I think his area got hit pretty hard. May be a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 27 States of consciousness: gaps in transcendence etc.

2005-10-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I think you are on to something here. My

Re: [FairfieldLife] Florida anyone out there?

2005-10-27 Thread Vaj
On Oct 27, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 10/26/05 8:43 PM, pibssmith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any Floridians with power that are online here on our stie yet? Very frustrating not to be able to get thru to family and friends even by cellphones. That would be Dr. Pete. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news.....now studies

2005-10-27 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unlikely to be the other factors that were considered, of course. The problem with research like this is that you can never prove that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Visual Studio Rot The Mind?

2005-10-27 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: http://charlespetzold.com/etc/DoesVisualStudioRotTheMind.html For those of you who are developers, or just interested in computers, here is an extremely funny and wonderful and spot-on talk by computing pioneer Charles Petzold. I enjoyed it for its own merits and humor, but at

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news.....now studies

2005-10-27 Thread markmeredith2002
For example: Quote: Hagelin's study used time series analysis to rule out a long list of alternative explanations, including weather variables, seasonal effects, changes in police surveillance, and trends and cyclical patterns inherent in the crime data.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news.....now studies

2005-10-27 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming that this is the case, that still doesn't rule out some OTHER factor that wasn't considered, like I said... Yes it does.

[FairfieldLife] heroin overdose

2005-10-27 Thread gerbal88
I don't know if this has been discussed, but I heard that last week some young (ish?) person overdosed there at Fairfield. Does anyone have any information about this? Thanks G Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo!

[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke

2005-10-27 Thread gerbal88
Mahesh was, probably still in, a clever manipulator of words. If you follow him (his talks) over time, you will notice that he seems to pick up more information as he goes -or- as time passed he became more confident in talking about the things he had learned. Anyone who has been on TTC or ATR

[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke

2005-10-27 Thread gerbal88
I doubt Mahesh could care less about the world. Good grief, he's way too self-centred for that!! The TMO exists as his means of support, his do nothing and accomplish everything translation: manipulate others into doing the work for you -- well, the work is another way of saying give me your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Asheville TM center

2005-10-27 Thread gerbal88
Wow! if ever we needed proof brainwashing works. What really works with TM is getting yourself hooked on the next great thing ... well, it works for Mahesh as that's where he gets his $. -- aside from vague references to feeling better, has anyone actually been convincing or articulate with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Nirvana

2005-10-27 Thread Bhairitu
BTW, it's available now on DVD which extras which include some of the discourses. I also recommend this DVD of the Mela too: http://www.kmp2001.com/kumbh_mela_dvd_documentary.html Rick Archer wrote: From a friend: for those you in fairfield... tonight, sunday, oct. 23rd, at cafe paradiso,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank for the Hog support

2005-10-27 Thread gerbal88
Mark, Rick, some confusion here: does Mahesh drink or are we talking about the next great TM cost available for even more money than even god imagines? G 8-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer

[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke

2005-10-27 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is why he's devoted 50 years of his life, non-stop, to the TMO... Which is primarily a diversified real estate business with side

[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke

2005-10-27 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mahesh turned his whole movement into a fascinating train-wreck. I've long believed the very same thing. My observation is that since the mid-70s when the popularity of TM began to decline Maharishi has seemed set on a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank for the Hog support

2005-10-27 Thread gerbal88
Rick -- I am assuming you own this site. My congratulations for attracting some really intelligent and perceptive people to post here. I have a friend who has connections at MUM. My friend wouldn't post here or at a.m.t. for any reason but from what I learn via that channel, Sal's report below

[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke

2005-10-27 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mahesh turned his whole movement into a fascinating train-wreck. I've long believed the very same thing. My observation is that since the mid-70s when the popularity of TM began to decline Maharishi has seemed set on a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke

2005-10-27 Thread Vaj
On Oct 27, 2005, at 3:06 PM, gerbal88 wrote:If you read closely in Mason's bio of Mahesh, the chapters about the  Beatles involvement, you will notice an interesting little statement  about Mahesh expecting the Beatles to put a percentage of their  earnings in his Swiss Account.  I had sort of

[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke

2005-10-27 Thread Jason Spock
I think the first blunder Maharishi did was to ask The Beatles, a ten percent cut from their income. If he had treated the Beatles like any other disciples, None of the subsequent problems might have occured. Jason ---OriginalMessage-- From:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Florida anyone out there?

2005-10-27 Thread Peter
Hey, I made it! We got power last night which was quite a surprise. All I can say is that Wilma kicked our ass...trees uprooted, broken and splintered, devoid of all their leaves. All these power lines down, no traffic lights (blown away!) Luckily our house had no damage to the roof. The hurricane

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Asheville TM center

2005-10-27 Thread Peter
--- gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! if ever we needed proof brainwashing works. What really works with TM is getting yourself hooked on the next great thing ... well, it works for Mahesh as that's where he gets his $. -- aside from vague references to feeling better, has anyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke

2005-10-27 Thread gerbal88
umm, the bagel, that is. Yes, Mahesh is absolutely nutso, biting the hand that fed him. I guess he has such a high opinion of himself (himself being, basically, a thief and malignant narcissist) that he has to manufacture those who are worthy of supporting him in the style

[FairfieldLife] Re: Florida anyone out there?

2005-10-27 Thread vashtirama
Here in the Sarasota-Bradenton area we had been expecting the worst after 6 days of forecasting but had only some strong gusts, light rain, not even any coastal flooding. The storm moved very quickly. We stayed on the line with relatives in Ft. Laud. in the morning because we were all in the

[FairfieldLife] News From Miami

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Archer
Hi Rick, A few very fortunate people in Miami-Dade have power on again, like us. Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach County still have many without power, and Florida Power and Light are saying it could be 3 weeks or so until everyone is back on. :o( People who followed the advice of

[FairfieldLife] FW: For Hilary

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Archer
Title: FW: For Hilary Hi Hilary, I spoke to Doug Hamilton today about the list of sprititual groups that the Fairfield Weekly Reader published last week. Two changes need to be made on the list. 1. Please remove Henry Herzberger's name and phone number listed there. He does not want this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thank for the Hog support

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Archer
The post is referring to Bush. on 10/27/05 2:03 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, Rick, some confusion here: does Mahesh drink or are we talking about the next great TM cost available for even more money than even god imagines? G 8-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] probably not appropriate for the TB TM type

2005-10-27 Thread gerbal88
B. Alan Wallace: Genuine Happiness Analayo: Satipatthana, the direct path to realization Both look at the same thing from different points of view. G Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank for the Hog support

2005-10-27 Thread gerbal88
Yes, I knew that, hence: 8-) Bush did TM, didn't he? And look what became of him! Of course, I screded up by not noticing that I had typed cost rather than course. Funny how those two words seem identical when talking abou TM!!! G --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thank for the Hog support

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/27/05 2:10 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick -- I am assuming you own this site. My congratulations for attracting some really intelligent and perceptive people to post here. I have a friend who has connections at MUM. My friend wouldn't post here or at a.m.t. for any reason

Re: [FairfieldLife] probably not appropriate for the TB TM type

2005-10-27 Thread Vaj
You might also enjoy B. Alan Wallace's article on Shamatha The Buddhist Tradition of Shamatha: Methods for Refining and Examining Consciousness. from the Journal of Consciousness Studies--a great way to take a TM-style meditation to it's ultimate limit and potential. It's on his website.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank for the Hog support

2005-10-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/27/05 2:10 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick -- I am assuming you own this site. My congratulations for attracting some really intelligent and perceptive people to post here. I have a friend who

[FairfieldLife] Re: heroin overdose

2005-10-27 Thread feste37
And why would you care, unless it's to use such information to go on another anti-TM rant? Your cynicism is a bore. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if this has been discussed, but I heard that last week some young (ish?) person overdosed

[FairfieldLife] 'Whether Indicted or Not: They'll Still Be There'

2005-10-27 Thread Robert Gimbel
Because of the family atmosphere; At the WH. And the tech. of 'Blackberry's and Cells'; Then why not just fire them; But really keep them on? A lie is a lie is a lie, right? And since this administration is built on lies anyway, As everyone in the world knows, including you;

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news.....now studies

2005-10-27 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example: Quote: Hagelin's study used time series analysis to rule out a long list of alternative explanations, including weather variables, seasonal effects, changes in police

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news.....now studies

2005-10-27 Thread off_world_beings
Thus the need for mutltiple studies by different groups of independent researchers. Good statistical modeling is part art, part technical -- based on a deep knowledge of hard-core statisics. One study, even if peer reviewed, doesn't establish that much -- it is not definitive. Except if

Re: [FairfieldLife] News From Miami

2005-10-27 Thread Peter
My power came back on because I only face east while thinking. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rick, A few very fortunate people in Miami-Dade have power on again, like us. Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach County still have many without power, and Florida Power and Light

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke

2005-10-27 Thread Peter
A couple of questions, GerbYou seem to have a rather strong anti-MMY orientation to your posts. What was your experience in the TMO. Gov, Initiator, Purusha, MD? I'm not trying to set you up, I'm just curious what your experience has been because you seem to find no value whatsoever in the the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Florida anyone out there?

2005-10-27 Thread pibssmith
Dr Pete Where exactly are you located? I still have family with no ppwer and sporadic cell phones. Hey, I made it! We got power last night which was quite a surprise. All I can say is that Wilma kicked our ass...trees uprooted, broken and splintered, devoid of all their leaves. All these

[FairfieldLife] Re: News From Miami

2005-10-27 Thread pibssmith
Dr Pete Do you know of any hotels in your area that have power? I think my family would rather go north if you are in Miami but whatever. I guess it all depends where you are. I have cousins in West Broward and one has power and a few blocks away do not. the one that does also has underground

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Florida anyone out there?

2005-10-27 Thread Peter
Coconut Creek, which is just west Pompano Beach --- pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr Pete Where exactly are you located? I still have family with no ppwer and sporadic cell phones. Hey, I made it! We got power last night which was quite a surprise. All I can say is that Wilma

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: News From Miami

2005-10-27 Thread Peter
Have them check motels in Margate. --- pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr Pete Do you know of any hotels in your area that have power? I think my family would rather go north if you are in Miami but whatever. I guess it all depends where you are. I have cousins in West Broward and

[FairfieldLife] Re: News From Miami

2005-10-27 Thread pibssmith
Thanks Have them check motels in Margate. --- pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr Pete Do you know of any hotels in your area that have power? I think my family would rather go north if you are in Miami but whatever. I guess it all depends where you are. I have cousins in

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news.....now studies

2005-10-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unlikely to be the other factors that were

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news.....now studies

2005-10-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example: Quote: Hagelin's study used time series analysis to rule out a long list of alternative explanations, including weather variables, seasonal effects, changes in police

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank for the Hog support

2005-10-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/27/05 2:10 PM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick -- I am assuming you own this site. My congratulations for

[FairfieldLife] was [Re: HA HA - A name and form joke] Pyramid souls

2005-10-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These 'pyramid people' present an interesting challenge to our attachments and boundaries. If we look within ourselves, particularly

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news.....now studies

2005-10-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thus the need for mutltiple studies by different groups of independent researchers. Good statistical modeling is part art, part technical -- based on a deep knowledge of hard-core statisics. One study,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news.....now studies

2005-10-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The research grant system ensures that a researcher is under pressure to prove their pet theory. Another way of saying this is that the researcher is

[FairfieldLife] Re: News From Miami

2005-10-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My power came back on because I only face east while thinking. There's some evidence that physical orientation affects the long-term functioning of the hippocampus. Mind you, that doesn't prove vaastu has any merit, but

Re: [FairfieldLife] was [Re: HA HA - A name and form joke] Pyramid souls

2005-10-27 Thread Vaj
On Oct 27, 2005, at 8:50 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Yes, my take on this also. However, I believe the clue in all of this to be Vaj's statement that the 'pyramid people' are seen when one *begins* to transcend duality. And that some would seek enlightenment as a further narcissistic tendency.

[FairfieldLife] was [Re: HA HA - A name and form joke] Pyramid souls

2005-10-27 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, my take on this also. However, I believe the clue in all of this to be Vaj's statement that the 'pyramid people' are seen when one *begins* to transcend duality. And that some would seek enlightenment as

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news.....now studies

2005-10-27 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The research grant system ensures that a researcher is under pressure to prove their pet theory. Another way of saying this is that the researcher is

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news.....now studies

2005-10-27 Thread off_world_beings
Sparaig: There is no such thing as scientific proof. Oh great. Now there is an encouraging statement if ever I have heard one, OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page

[FairfieldLife] Re: The latest 'Maharishi says' from MIU news.....now studies

2005-10-27 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The research grant system ensures that a researcher is under pressure to

[FairfieldLife] Bentov, was [Re: HA HA - A name and form joke] Pyramid souls

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/27/05 8:28 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bentov's two solitary works are the best the TM movement has ever produced. Read them and move on. He certainly did. The Movement didn't produce them, any more than the Movement produced John Gray's books. Less so, since John underwent most

[FairfieldLife] Intelligent FFLers

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Intelligent FFLers Gerbal88 made some comment about the intelligent people FFL has attracted. Seems to me MMY deserves the credit for that. He attracted a bunch of intelligent people. But I would add that perhaps the most intelligent, in a certain sense, have now distanced themselves

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke on 10/27/05 2:23 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the first blunder Maharishi did was to ask The Beatles, a ten percent cut from their income. If he had treated the Beatles like any other disciples, None of

[FairfieldLife] was [Re: HA HA - A name and form joke] Pyramid souls

2005-10-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, my take on this also. However, I believe the clue in all of this to be Vaj's statement that the 'pyramid people' are seen