Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-28 Thread dlgegg
are. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 8:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors My thoughts exactly

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-28 Thread dlgegg
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Benfield Health at Petsmart has a big promotion for kitten health which includes declawing. Many people think it's just a manicure, where nails are pulled out, which to me sounds like torture used by third world countries and barbarians

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-28 Thread dlgegg
@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors The rental apartment I own, in my two story cat shelter, allows cats As many as they want, within reason of course, and I'd never ask anyone to declaw a cat, but they must be neutered or spayed. I do not allow dogs

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-28 Thread dlgegg
: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Sorry! This is a 62 email thread in gmail. I don't know how your email program organizes stuff. Anyway I did not look at the date. I've seen cats (especially senior cats) mourn their owners literally to death after being given away, and honestly

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-27 Thread Marcia Baronda
7:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Sorry! This is a 62 email thread in gmail. I don't know how your email program organizes stuff. Anyway I did not look at the date. I've seen cats (especially senior cats) mourn their owners

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-27 Thread Lorrie
The rental apartment I own, in my two story cat shelter, allows cats As many as they want, within reason of course, and I'd never ask anyone to declaw a cat, but they must be neutered or spayed. I do not allow dogs however, as the last time I had a tenant with a dog (a big lab) we had a

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-27 Thread Lynda Wilson
My thoughts exactly! - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors My cats have destroyed my new furniture, but I love my cats much much more

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-27 Thread Natalie
Of Lorrie Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 8:23 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors The rental apartment I own, in my two story cat shelter, allows cats As many as they want, within reason of course, and I'd never ask anyone to declaw a cat

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-27 Thread Natalie
] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 8:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors My cats have destroyed my new furniture, but I love my cats much much more than I like my furniture, and declawing has never been an option at my

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-27 Thread Natalie
, August 27, 2011 8:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors My thoughts exactly! - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-27 Thread Natalie
Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of katskat1 Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 12:07 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Just add this to the consideration. To summarize, 'declawing

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-27 Thread Natalie
@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors And who is going to take care of the cat if the owner isn't available? In many rural areas the cat will be taken to the pound or thrown out to take care of himself/herself. This is particularly hard for older cats. It is a judgment

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-27 Thread Natalie
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors It wouldn't be you going without the cat, it would be the cat going without you. I have seen cats given up by their owners grieve and mourn themselves TO DEATH. I've seen cats given away by their owners be fine. I've seen

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-27 Thread Lynda Wilson
I will never use Banfield in Petsmart...oh the horror stories!! - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Benfield Health at Petsmart has a big promotion

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-27 Thread MaiMaiPG
...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 8:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors My thoughts exactly! - Original Message - From: Marcia Baronda marciabmar

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
Because if the owner has to go into the nursing home and is fortunate enough to find one where they can take their cat, the nursing home is likely to require declawing. On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: That is true, but I don't understand why an old person

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
the ramifications and dealt with the problems as well as they could. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Kelley Saveika *Sent:* Friday, August 26, 2011 6:45 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors ** ** Because if the owner has to go into the nursing home and is fortunate enough to find one where they can take

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Natalie
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Sorry! This is a 62 email thread in gmail. I don't know how your email program organizes stuff. Anyway I did not look at the date. I've seen cats (especially senior cats) mourn their owners literally to death after

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Kelley Saveika
...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Kelley Saveika *Sent:* Friday, August 26, 2011 6:45 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Because if the owner has to go into the nursing home and is fortunate

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread MaiMaiPG
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Sorry! This is a 62 email thread in gmail. I don't know how your email program organizes stuff. Anyway I

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Terri Brown
: Nataliemailto:at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors I would seriously consider declawing very, very seriously- it is the most devastating thing for a cat. Knowing what

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Gloria Lane
: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Sorry! This is a 62 email thread in gmail. I don't know how your

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread katskat1
...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Sorry! This is a 62 email thread in gmail. I don't know how your email program organizes stuff

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-08-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Problem is declawing is so harmful to adult cats- painful, hard to adjust to, it can ruin them. Not right for kittens, but for adults it's just mean, torturous. Just not a good thing to do. There are places that allow cats w claws but folks may not think

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-25 Thread Lorrie
On 03-24, MaiMaiPG wrote: I deal with ferals too and all of my house cats have been ferals. One cost me two surgeries thanks to biting through a finger...my fault not hers. A lot of older people are on blood thinners, have extremely thin skin etc. I've been scratched more times than I

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-25 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
: Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors My housemate and I were faced with such a decision 10 or 11 years ago, when we moved from our separate apartments to our formerly-two-flat house, and melded our cat families. She had two

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-25 Thread Natalie
: Friday, March 25, 2011 4:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Dr. Nicholas Dodman wrote an awesome book about cat personalities and problems, including aggression towards housemates and people. It's called The Cat Who Cried For Help, and addresses

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-25 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
] On Behalf Of POTT, BEVERLY Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Dr. Nicholas Dodman wrote an awesome book about cat personalities and problems, including aggression towards housemates and people. It's called The Cat Who Cried

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-25 Thread dlgegg
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Dr. Nicholas Dodman wrote an awesome book about cat personalities and problems, including aggression towards housemates and people. It's called The Cat Who Cried For Help, and addresses situations like yours

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-25 Thread dlgegg
My first feral, Shorty, got me 2 times, both my fault. My father had built a house for my strays complete with lapped siding, a small porch with columns and I got leftovers from a client's new carpet ($50.00 a yard, wool) to line the walls and floor. Of course, we put in 2 styrofoam

[Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-25 Thread Maureen Olvey
My friend does that too and she's had negatives and positives running around together for many years with no problems. However, even knowing what I do about FeLV I would have been very hesistant to bring a FeLV + cat into my house with all my negative cats so I understand Jannes'

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Those may be very reasonable options for a lot of people. However, I suspect you overestimate the resources available to everyone. Not everyone can drive; not everyone has someone who can

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 7:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors I deal with ferals too and all of my house cats have been ferals. One cost me two surgeries thanks to biting through a finger...my fault not hers. A lot of older people

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors I can see some times where it is either declaw the cat or end its life.for the safety of an elderly owner for example. That being said

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread dlgegg
] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors I can see some times where it is either declaw the cat or end its life.for the safety of an elderly owner for example. That being said, Copper

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
, March 23, 2011 4:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors I can see some times where it is either declaw the cat or end its life.for the safety of an elderly owner for example. That being said, Copper and Thomas have their claws and, with a little

[Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Natalie
Edna, that's exactly what I tell people about letting their cats out just because they want to. I ask them if they would allow their 3-yr old to play in the middle of the street just because he/she wanted to? When I hear but the cat gets out, I tell them that they control the door, period! Our

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Beth
at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 12:55 PM Edna, that's exactly what I tell people about letting their cats out just because they want to.  I ask them

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Natalie
: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 1:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Natalie, I am with you about the declawing. Someone I know adopted two

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread MaiMaiPG
. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 1:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Natalie, I am with you about

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Natalie
and trimming their nails works well. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 1:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread MaiMaiPG
catatonic (according to Dr.Nicholas Dodman). -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 5:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Natalie
: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors That is a good optionif the owner is able to trim nails and put SoftPaws

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread MaiMaiPG
...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors That is a good optionif the owner is able to trim nails and put SoftPaws on. A lot of elderly people don't have the physical dexterity

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Shoot, why send it privately? Put it up here for all to see. Name and shame! From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] Sent: Wed 3/23/2011 5:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors That's horrible, and many people

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-23 Thread Natalie
-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors Those may be very reasonable options for a lot of people. However, I suspect you