Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
is your kitty on a grain free diet? one of my babies get terrible eye gunk and sneezy congestion on grains. it might not be the answer, but something to consider. Shannon --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Melinda Kerr wrote: From: Melinda Kerr Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 5:29 PM Maybe I can find the Benedryl. Thanks, On 07 Dec, 2010,at 08:20 AM, Edna Taylor wrote: You can give cats children's Benadryl (ONLY .10 (one/tenth) of a cc) or if you have access to a nebulizer, those are great too. > From: msk...@me.com > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 07:37:33 +0900 > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion > > As I wrote in my previous post on mixing, my little kitty is extremely > congested. The vet has given him antibiotics and anti-inflammatory medicine, > but since he isn't too interested in eating, I am having trouble getting them > into him. I have very limited access to medications or natural remedies > unless they are homemade using easily accessible ingredients. I read > something about saline drops or using children's Afrin. Does anyone have any > suggestions? > > Thank you, > Melinda and VooDoo > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
Our kitty Scampi lived to be 13 years old with his FeLV. He was never sick in all the years we took care of him. He only became ill about 2 weeks prior to his passing away but even then he still loved to snooze in the sun whenever he could. There is always hope, sometimes it's just harder to find. Brenda > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:58 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats > > It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years. Does anyone > else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life? If so, please tell me. I > want to have hope. > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
Stephanie, as others have already said it is a very personal decision. IMO a lot depends on the ages of your negative cats. If they are adults and vaccinated with the one month booster I'd have no issues with mixing. Over the last 4 yrs I have rescued 10 FeLV+ kittens. My negative cats were adults and current on their vaccine. They played together, ate together and drank from the same water bowels with no problems. >From what I could tell the kittens all got FeLV from their Mommas. I lost the >last ones this summer. They were 4 yrs old. I am now fostering 6 kittens. Since kittens are more susceptible I will not take in any positive kitties. We each do what is best for our own situation. What is important is to love them and provide a stress free environment for these special angels. Sharyl --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: > From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:01 PM > Hi Everyone, > > I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My > husband and I recently > took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our > yard and on our > porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV > negative cats for six > weeks now and love her dearly. > > At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested > positive on two different > snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA > test. Magic is about > five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, > growing and gaining > weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, > she lives in our > master bedroom separated from our other cats. > > One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to > integrate her with > our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did > tell me that the vaccine > isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. > Right now, I do not feel > like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to > expose my FELV negative to > cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to > her. However, I thought I > would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their > experience has been. The > vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see > and I am waiting for my > regular vet to come back to work later this week. > > Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is > currently living in > our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not > an ideal set-up for > us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle > with what is fair for > her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her > space is limited or to > find her a home where she can have more space and possibly > time with her > owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we > still vaccinate our > other cats as a precaution? > > Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these > issues would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Stephanie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
That is on my checks too! happiness is being owned by cats ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
If no nebulizer you cam do a humidifier or sit kitty in a carrier/ bathroom with hot steamy shower. Not as good as a nebulizer but it's been suggested to me before. Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote: As I wrote in my previous post on mixing, my little kitty is extremely congested. The vet has given him antibiotics and anti- inflammatory medicine, but since he isn't too interested in eating, I am having trouble getting them into him. I have very limited access to medications or natural remedies unless they are homemade using easily accessible ingredients. I read something about saline drops or using children's Afrin. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you, Melinda and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introductions & Questions
My Tucson had a couple of episodes of very low wbc & vet treated her with immune regulin injections. Seemed to have brought her blood count up pretty quickly... -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of brenda_osbou...@hotmail.com Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Introductions & Questions Hi Everyone, I hope I'm doing this right. I've not belonged to a group like this before so I'm hoping this message is going to the right place. My husband and I have some experience with FeLV kitties as we took in a feral cat several years ago who tested positive. We were very lucky with Scampi in that he didn't have any problems from his disease until he was 13 years old when it got the better of him and we had to euthanize him. We now have another kitty who has tested positive for FeLV and has recently started having some problems so I would love to get some opinions on her from some of the more experienced members. Eden was a stray who came up to us in a field where we run our 5 dogs at night. We heard a cat meowing and as we got closer the meowing got louder. My husband pinpointed the sound and then suddenly this very skinny cat came walking out of the brush towards my husband. She was sweet as can be and starving nearly to death. We picked her up and brought her home and at her first vet check she tested positive for FeLV. She has been retested since then and has again come up with what the vet called a "strong positive". Eden is about 9 or 10 months old and had been doing well for the couple of months that we've had her. She recently stopped eating and just sort of looked like she wasn't feeling well so we took her to the vet. My regular vet was off so another vet cared for Eden. She did some blood work and found that Eden had a low WBC and neutrophil count, which as we know, is not that unusual for a FeLV kitty. But Eden also had a high temp so she got some IV fluids and antibiotics. She was able to come home after spending the night at the clinic but then a few days later she had the same symptoms. This time her temp was a bit higher then it had been the first time. She stayed again at the clinic, got some IV fluids and rebounded again. She came home this past Saturday and has been doing pretty well. She eats small meals several times a day and takes her antibiotics in a pill pocket without any trouble at all. She sleeps alot though and is not back to her normal self yet. The vet who took care of Eden thought that she was in the end stages of her FeLV and wasn't sure Eden would recover. But she has and we hope she continues to get better. Eden seems young to be in the end stage of her disease, although her system overall seems quite sensitive so maybe she's just more affected by the virus then other cats tend to be. The vet did not mention any of the treatments that are currently being used for FeLV and I'm wondering if there is anything that would be of benefit to Eden. She is so young and so precious and clearly didn't have a great start in life so we are so hoping to be able to give her a good life for however many years she has. Any thoughts or advice for our sweet girl would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Brenda ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
Got my Tucson as a 6 week old kitten in 5/98 and she's still here, a chunky 17 lbs! Brought my Romeo in 2/04 (stray I was feeding) & he was estimated to be 4-5 at the time. He died from lymphoma last fall & was never sick until the last 2 weeks of his life. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years. Does anyone else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life? If so, please tell me. I want to have hope. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and none of them ever became positive. He was 5 months old when I found him and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate after I discovered that. He lived with his housemates for over 10 years, they were all vaccinated. They slept, ate, played, groomed and on occasion had spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious but there was blood drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever became positive in those 10 years. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] planning for Whimsy's checkup-what to get
Awesome! Thanks for the info. ~B. - Original Message - From: "Emeraldkittee" To: Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] planning for Whimsy's checkup-what to get hi Bonnie, oh it's canned pumpkin, when he seems a bit blocked up or his stool is hard, I give him some canned pumpkin (warmed with a few freeze dried chicken crumbles - Halo's Liv a littles) - it helps very quickly :) Shannon --- On Sun, 12/5/10, Bonnie Hogue wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] planning for Whimsy's checkup-what to get To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 10:04 PM Pumpkin? Is that a toy or...a food? thx. B. - Original Message - From: "Emeraldkittee" To: Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] planning for Whimsy's checkup-what to get hi Natalie! Actually, I almost wrote that I was leary of the microchip, because wouldn't his little system view it as a foreign object? I figured since he is a 'flight risk' though (and never heard anyone else chime in on this) I would do it - really glad you brought it up. Whimsy got out just a few days ago and it was really hard to catch him, so I will weigh this carefully. Ditto on the vax as well. Would rather not give any shots. We likely will sedate him for the visit :( because this is all new stuff to my wild boy - but paws crossed he will be agreeable unlike last time! He's liking his pumpkin every now and then, and I will add some probiotics too, good idea. would love to see that microchip article whenever you have time to post. thanks for weighing in, Natalie. Shannon --- On Sun, 12/5/10, Natalie wrote: From: Natalie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] planning for Whimsy's checkup-what to get To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 6:10 PM Shannon - Did you know that microchips have been found to be carcinogenic? I have articles on it, confirmed by a holistic veterinarian. Is there really a need for it - if Whimsy's safe inside, why do it. I am in a rush right now, but if you'd like, I can post the articles. This falls into the category of unnecessary vaccines - only vaccinate for the cat's lifestyle No, I wouldn't suggest needless X-rays - they have to sedate a cat and slight constipation is not good enough of a reason - try some probiotics and fiber in Whimsy's food. My vet sedates as little and as rarely as possible. For x-rays, they must be very still. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 5:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] planning for Whimsy's checkup-what to get Whimsy's check up is in a few weeks and wanted to get your opinions on what to get done. We will likely have to have him under like before, as I don't see him being cooperative, but we'll see. I'll be touching base with my vet to solidify 'the plan'. I am going to have the snap test re-done because theoretically he could be double positive (FIV), full blood panel, urine tested (stool was recently tested already), micro chipped, oral exam - anything else that is good to do as long as he is there? The only 'issue' I notice is he tends towards mild constipation (ever since I met him) - given the issues that can face an FeLV's intestines, is it prudent to do an xray? or anything else? The temps have plummeted here in the Midwest and I'm so grateful he's safe and warm inside. We bought him lots of toys and warm bedding. Because he's in the sun room, he has more square footage than any other cat (or person!) living here. It's so wonderful to spoil him as he should be. Thanks for any input. Shannon and Sir Whimsy the Spoiled ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
My 3 neg cat have lived with Tucson, my pos cat, for most their lives and she is 12 1/2 years old. I also had another pos cat, Romeo, who I brought in 2004 (adult cat) & until his death last year, they all lived together. They share dishes, boxes, groom each other, occasionally nip each other, sleep together and none of my neg have ever turned positive. I personally think that FELV is not as contagious as some folks make it out to be. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats Hi Everyone, I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My husband and I recently took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for six weeks now and love her dearly. At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two different snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. Magic is about five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, she lives in our master bedroom separated from our other cats. One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her with our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did tell me that the vaccine isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. Right now, I do not feel like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative to cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. However, I thought I would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been. The vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for my regular vet to come back to work later this week. Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living in our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle with what is fair for her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or to find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our other cats as a precaution? Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
Maybe I can find the Benedryl. Thanks, On 07 Dec, 2010,at 08:20 AM, Edna Taylor wrote: You can give cats children's Benadryl (ONLY .10 (one/tenth) of a cc) or if you have access to a nebulizer, those are great too. From: msk...@me.com Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 07:37:33 +0900 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion As I wrote in my previous post on mixing, my little kitty is extremely congested. The vet has given him antibiotics and anti-inflammatory medicine, but since he isn't too interested in eating, I am having trouble getting them into him. I have very limited access to medications or natural remedies unless they are homemade using easily accessible ingredients. I read something about saline drops or using children's Afrin. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you, Melinda and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
He was given a shot last week, unfortunately I don't know what. He was given some powder to add to his food yesterday, but he isn't eating too much. I'm actually thinking it is a viral infection. Having a bit of trouble asking the vet about that one! His english isn't the best. I plan to check in after a couple of days if we can't beat it! On 07 Dec, 2010,at 08:19 AM, Susan Hoffman wrote: Little Noses brand salineBut it sounds like you may need a heavier duty antibiotic. What antibiotic was already given? I swear by zithromax but have also seen good results from the Convenia antibiotic injection. --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Melinda Kerr wrote: From: Melinda Kerr Subject: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:37 PM As I wrote in my previous post on mixing, my little kitty is extremely congested. The vet has given him antibiotics and anti-inflammatory medicine, but since he isn't too interested in eating, I am having trouble getting them into him. I have very limited access to medications or natural remedies unless they are homemade using easily accessible ingredients. I read something about saline drops or using children's Afrin. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you, Melinda and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] planning for Whimsy's checkup-what to get
hi Bonnie, oh it's canned pumpkin, when he seems a bit blocked up or his stool is hard, I give him some canned pumpkin (warmed with a few freeze dried chicken crumbles - Halo's Liv a littles) - it helps very quickly :) Shannon --- On Sun, 12/5/10, Bonnie Hogue wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] planning for Whimsy's checkup-what to get To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 10:04 PM Pumpkin? Is that a toy or...a food? thx. B. - Original Message - From: "Emeraldkittee" To: Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] planning for Whimsy's checkup-what to get > hi Natalie! > > Actually, I almost wrote that I was leary of the microchip, because wouldn't > his little system view it as a foreign object? I figured since he is a > 'flight risk' though (and never heard anyone else chime in on this) I would > do it - really glad you brought it up. Whimsy got out just a few days ago and > it was really hard to catch him, so I will weigh this carefully. Ditto on the > vax as well. Would rather not give any shots. > > We likely will sedate him for the visit :( because this is all new stuff to > my wild boy - but paws crossed he will be agreeable unlike last time! > > He's liking his pumpkin every now and then, and I will add some probiotics > too, good idea. > > would love to see that microchip article whenever you have time to post. > > thanks for weighing in, Natalie. > Shannon > --- On Sun, 12/5/10, Natalie wrote: > > > From: Natalie > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] planning for Whimsy's checkup-what to get > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 6:10 PM > > > Shannon - Did you know that microchips have been found to be carcinogenic? > I have articles on it, confirmed by a holistic veterinarian. Is there really > a need for it - if Whimsy's safe inside, why do it. I am in a rush right > now, but if you'd like, I can post the articles. This falls into the > category of unnecessary vaccines - only vaccinate for the cat's > lifestyle > No, I wouldn't suggest needless X-rays - they have to sedate a cat and > slight constipation is not good enough of a reason - try some probiotics and > fiber in Whimsy's food. My vet sedates as little and as rarely as possible. > For x-rays, they must be very still. Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 5:29 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] planning for Whimsy's checkup-what to get > > Whimsy's check up is in a few weeks and wanted to get your opinions on what > to get done. > > We will likely have to have him under like before, as I don't see him being > cooperative, but we'll see. I'll be touching base with my vet to solidify > 'the plan'. > > I am going to have the snap test re-done because theoretically he could be > double positive (FIV), full blood panel, urine tested (stool was recently > tested already), micro chipped, oral exam - anything else that is good to do > as long as he is there? The only 'issue' I notice is he tends towards mild > constipation (ever since I met him) - given the issues that can face an > FeLV's intestines, is it prudent to do an xray? or anything else? > > The temps have plummeted here in the Midwest and I'm so grateful he's safe > and warm inside. We bought him lots of toys and warm bedding. Because he's > in the sun room, he has more square footage than any other cat (or person!) > living here. It's so wonderful to spoil him as he should be. > > Thanks for any input. > > Shannon and Sir Whimsy the Spoiled > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
You can give cats children's Benadryl (ONLY .10 (one/tenth) of a cc) or if you have access to a nebulizer, those are great too. > From: msk...@me.com > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 07:37:33 +0900 > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion > > As I wrote in my previous post on mixing, my little kitty is extremely > congested. The vet has given him antibiotics and anti-inflammatory medicine, > but since he isn't too interested in eating, I am having trouble getting them > into him. I have very limited access to medications or natural remedies > unless they are homemade using easily accessible ingredients. I read > something about saline drops or using children's Afrin. Does anyone have any > suggestions? > > Thank you, > Melinda and VooDoo > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
Little Noses brand salineBut it sounds like you may need a heavier duty antibiotic. What antibiotic was already given? I swear by zithromax but have also seen good results from the Convenia antibiotic injection. --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Melinda Kerr wrote: > From: Melinda Kerr > Subject: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:37 PM > As I wrote in my previous post on > mixing, my little kitty is extremely congested. The > vet has given him antibiotics and anti-inflammatory > medicine, but since he isn't too interested in eating, I am > having trouble getting them into him. I have very > limited access to medications or natural remedies unless > they are homemade using easily accessible ingredients. > I read something about saline drops or using children's > Afrin. Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Thank you, > Melinda and VooDoo > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky - first IV chemo today
Also, I forgot to add that Fuji had her first follow-up appointment from her second round of chemo. The vet believes the second mass has been shrunk! Besides a sneeze or two, probably inherited from her baby brother, she is in excellent condition. We will do blood work later this week and look at a second treatment (round two) to help completely get rid of it! Melinda and Fuji On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: > Hi: > > PLease send some healing thoughts and purrayers for Spanky today - he > has his first chemo - vincristine. Paws crossed everything goes well. > He's FELV+, age 13, mediastinal cranial mass - lymphoblastic large cell > lymphoma dx'ed recently with the mass. I am worried about all the > odds, side effects etc. but like everyone has said - you won't know if > it will work until you try. Oncologist gave us 4 options and > recommended the UW-Madison CHOP protocol. So here we go...very > nervously! > Thanks. > > > > Purrs, > > Stacy and Spanky > > stacy_zac...@yahoo.com > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
As I wrote in my previous post on mixing, my little kitty is extremely congested. The vet has given him antibiotics and anti-inflammatory medicine, but since he isn't too interested in eating, I am having trouble getting them into him. I have very limited access to medications or natural remedies unless they are homemade using easily accessible ingredients. I read something about saline drops or using children's Afrin. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you, Melinda and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
I brought a very young stray kitten into my home at about 6 weeks. His initial test was negative and he was vaccinated even though he was a bit too young for it. I am in Japan and they have very different beliefs. (Their first vaccine is a 5 in one and includes it.) Anyway, I kept the kitten separate from my positive cat for about a week. They continued to have separate bowls and litter pans and the kitten hid most of the time. My vet believed that prolonged exposure was necessary and after vaccination he should be OK. 4 weeks later, he went to get his booster and retested a very faint positive. My Fuji, another stray who also tested negative initially was diagnosed when she was one year old. I do not believe she got it from exposure as she stayed inside until she was 8 months old. Then her outside time was extremely limited. She did not have prolonged exposure to any other cats and did not get into any fights. It is my belief she got it from her mom and simply suppressed it until it came out later in life. She was pretty sickly when we got her and we managed to almost entirely suppress her secondary virus issue. To make a very long story even longer, I actually believe that the kitten was probably also from a positive mother. Here in Japan, people buy pets from shops at a very high price! Strays tend to be very common and are very sickly. It is possible they pay so much for their pets in order to get healthy ones. While I could blame myself for making the baby sick, I try not to. I know that as far as love, affection and vet care he is better off than he would have been with another family. His mom and sister are still lose and homeless. All of this being said, everything that I read indicated that older cats tend to have a natural immunity. If your other cats are older and you vaccinate them, it seems as though they would be OK. The bottom line is, you have to make your own decision and then be prepared to deal with the consequences. We all love our little VooDoo kitten to pieces and he loves us right back. He will have the best and longest life he can possibly have! I do not regret for one minute taking him in, even as he sits in my lap with a terrible stuffed up nose and sneezing. He has been to the vet twice and everything is being done to get him healthy! You will get some very strong opinions on this one and most will actually be positive. You do what is best for you:) Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo On Dec 7, 2010, at 4:01 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My husband and I > recently > took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our > porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for > six > weeks now and love her dearly. > > At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two > different > snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. Magic is > about > five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining > weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, she lives in our > master bedroom separated from our other cats. > > One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her > with > our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did tell me that the > vaccine > isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. Right now, I do not > feel > like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative > to > cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. However, I > thought I > would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been. > The > vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for > my > regular vet to come back to work later this week. > > Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living > in > our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for > us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle with what is fair > for > her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or > to > find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her > owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our > other cats as a precaution? > > Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be > greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Stephanie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
"happiness is being owned by cats ..." Amen! - Original Message - From: "Sander, Sue" To: Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years. Does anyone else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life? If so, please tell me. I want to have hope. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and none of them ever became positive. He was 5 months old when I found him and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate after I discovered that. He lived with his housemates for over 10 years, they were all vaccinated. They slept, ate, played, groomed and on occasion had spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious but there was blood drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever became positive in those 10 years. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky - first IV chemo today
Exactly the first drug that was used on Fuji! I hope it works as well for Spanky:) Melinda and Fuji On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote: > Hi: > > PLease send some healing thoughts and purrayers for Spanky today - he > has his first chemo - vincristine. Paws crossed everything goes well. > He's FELV+, age 13, mediastinal cranial mass - lymphoblastic large cell > lymphoma dx'ed recently with the mass. I am worried about all the > odds, side effects etc. but like everyone has said - you won't know if > it will work until you try. Oncologist gave us 4 options and > recommended the UW-Madison CHOP protocol. So here we go...very > nervously! > Thanks. > > > > Purrs, > > Stacy and Spanky > > stacy_zac...@yahoo.com > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years. Does anyone else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life? If so, please tell me. I want to have hope. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and none of them ever became positive. He was 5 months old when I found him and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate after I discovered that. He lived with his housemates for over 10 years, they were all vaccinated. They slept, ate, played, groomed and on occasion had spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious but there was blood drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever became positive in those 10 years. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and none of them ever became positive. He was 5 months old when I found him and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate after I discovered that. He lived with his housemates for over 10 years, they were all vaccinated. They slept, ate, played, groomed and on occasion had spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious but there was blood drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever became positive in those 10 years. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
Hi, my experience is that very young kittens don't live long. But, other than that my cats are vaccinated, I have a few postive cats. I have water drinking fountains, and they are all together.Your kitten is strong, I think you should let her/him out with your other cats.Cathy --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:01 PM Hi Everyone, I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My husband and I recently took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for six weeks now and love her dearly. At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two different snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. Magic is about five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, she lives in our master bedroom separated from our other cats. One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her with our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did tell me that the vaccine isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. Right now, I do not feel like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative to cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. However, I thought I would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been. The vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for my regular vet to come back to work later this week. Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living in our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle with what is fair for her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or to find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our other cats as a precaution? Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
Hi Stephanie, I've just joined this group today so I'm not sure if I should be responding to this and I'm sure others may have varying opinions on this topic but for me and for my own cats, we allow our FeLV +ve kitty to interact with our other cats. She is not isolated at all nor did we isolate our previous FeLV +ve cat from the others. The others are vaccinated and we have 12 cats all together. They were all strays, some were feral and we try to provide them all with the best possible life that we can. I think the contagious aspect of FeLV is a bit over blown, although obviously not a disease that you want to take lightly. I've read differing views on how contagious it is. I've read that it is really only a concern if cats are fighting or engaging in mating behavior. I've also read that the virus is shed through saliva so even sharing the same water bowl can be a danger to the cats who are not FeLV. So I think you can find both ends of the spectrum in whatever you read. As with anything you should do what you feel is right, keeping in mind that not many people will want to take on a cat who is FeLV +ve so finding your new one a new home may not be that easy. Our previous cat who was FeLV positive lived with us for 6 years. He was feral so we cared for him while he lived outside for 7 years. One day he decided to come inside and he never left. We didn't have any problems with him spreading anything to the other cats and we're really not all that concerned about our newest kitty Eden spreading anything around. She loves the other cats and has great fun playing with two of our younger ones, who were feral alley kittens. I think it's a very personal choice but whatever you decided to do just know that we all do what we feel is right for our own pets and for our individual situations and there are no wrong choices when they are made with love and compassion. Brenda > Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:01:24 -0800 > From: steph.she...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats > > Hi Everyone, > > I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My husband and I > recently > took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our > porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for > six > weeks now and love her dearly. > > At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two > different > snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. Magic is > about > five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining > weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, she lives in our > master bedroom separated from our other cats. > > One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her > with > our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did tell me that the > vaccine > isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. Right now, I do not > feel > like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative > to > cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. However, I > thought I > would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been. > The > vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for > my > regular vet to come back to work later this week. > > Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living > in > our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for > us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle with what is fair > for > her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or > to > find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her > owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our > other cats as a precaution? > > Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be > greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Stephanie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
I'm writing this on my phone so limited on what I can write. But everyone of course follows their own heart on this. I've been mixing mine for a few years As others do with no problem. I think they hype up the contagion something terrible. I just don't think it that contagious. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:01 PM, "Stephanie \(Merkel\) Sherry" wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My husband and I > recently > took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our > porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for > six > weeks now and love her dearly. > > At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two > different > snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. Magic is > about > five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining > weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, she lives in our > master bedroom separated from our other cats. > > One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her > with > our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did tell me that the > vaccine > isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. Right now, I do not > feel > like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative > to > cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. However, I > thought I > would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been. > The > vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for > my > regular vet to come back to work later this week. > > Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living > in > our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for > us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle with what is fair > for > her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or > to > find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her > owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our > other cats as a precaution? > > Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be > greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Stephanie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
Hi Everyone, I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My husband and I recently took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for six weeks now and love her dearly. At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two different snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. Magic is about five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, she lives in our master bedroom separated from our other cats. One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her with our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did tell me that the vaccine isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. Right now, I do not feel like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative to cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. However, I thought I would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been. The vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for my regular vet to come back to work later this week. Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living in our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle with what is fair for her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or to find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our other cats as a precaution? Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introductions & Questions
Brenda, My experience was 4 years ago but I remember like it was yesterday. Junior ran on and off high fevers. As high as 106.5. It was actually probably early stage for him. I decided to do the immunoregulin protocol. It kicked the fevers and his anemia which was treated with antibiotics never came back. He lived about 2 years after being diagnosed. Like many have said euthanasia was suggested. Now he was sick on and off over those years and we just treated what came along. In the end he had fluid and labored breathing and I knew he had no fight left. Others here have tried other protocols. We also used Transfer factor Plus human version Sally Davis ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introductions & Questions
Hi Brenda I'm not a good person to give you advice, but I read your post and wanted to thank you for taking care of Eden. You and your husband are clearly very compassionate people. You will certainly get some wonderful inputs from the very experienced, knowledgeable and caring people on this list. I wish you and little Eden all the best! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:31 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Introductions & Questions Hi Everyone, I hope I'm doing this right. I've not belonged to a group like this before so I'm hoping this message is going to the right place. My husband and I have some experience with FeLV kitties as we took in a feral cat several years ago who tested positive. We were very lucky with Scampi in that he didn't have any problems from his disease until he was 13 years old when it got the better of him and we had to euthanize him. We now have another kitty who has tested positive for FeLV and has recently started having some problems so I would love to get some opinions on her from some of the more experienced members. Eden was a stray who came up to us in a field where we run our 5 dogs at night. We heard a cat meowing and as we got closer the meowing got louder. My husband pinpointed the sound and then suddenly this very skinny cat came walking out of the brush towards my husband. She was sweet as can be and starving nearly to death. We picked her up and brought her home and at her firs! t vet check she tested positive for FeLV. She has been retested since then and has again come up with what the vet called a "strong positive". Eden is about 9 or 10 months old and had been doing well for the couple of months that we've had her. She recently stopped eating and just sort of looked like she wasn't feeling well so we took her to the vet. My regular vet was off so another vet cared for Eden. She did some blood work and found that Eden had a low WBC and neutrophil count, which as we know, is not that unusual for a FeLV kitty. But Eden also had a high temp so she got some IV fluids and antibiotics. She was able to come home after spending the night at the clinic but then a few days later she had the same symptoms. This time her temp was a bit higher then it had been the first time. She stayed again at the clinic, got some IV fluids and rebounded again. She came home this past Saturday and has been doing pretty well. She eats small meals several times a day and tak! es her antibiotics in a pill pocket without any trouble at all. She sl eeps alot though and is not back to her normal self yet. The vet who took care of Eden thought that she was in the end stages of her FeLV and wasn't sure Eden would recover. But she has and we hope she continues to get better. Eden seems young to be in the end stage of her disease, although her system overall seems quite sensitive so maybe she's just more affected by the virus then other cats tend to be. The vet did not mention any of the treatments that are currently being used for FeLV and I'm wondering if there is anything that would be of benefit to Eden. She is so young and so precious and clearly didn't have a great start in life so we are so hoping to be able to give her a good life for however many years she has. Any thoughts or advice for our sweet girl would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Brenda ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Spanky - first IV chemo today
Hey Stacy & Spanky Here's some love and healing energy coming your way! Keep your heart and head held high. Best of everything, Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Stacy Zacher" To: "FELVTalk" Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 5:53 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Spanky - first IV chemo today Hi: PLease send some healing thoughts and purrayers for Spanky today - he has his first chemo - vincristine. Paws crossed everything goes well. He's FELV+, age 13, mediastinal cranial mass - lymphoblastic large cell lymphoma dx'ed recently with the mass. I am worried about all the odds, side effects etc. but like everyone has said - you won't know if it will work until you try. Oncologist gave us 4 options and recommended the UW-Madison CHOP protocol. So here we go...very nervously! Thanks. Purrs, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Microchip - part 1
What are the dogs telling Doctor Blake about the safest way to provide ID for them in case they get lost? At the bottom of this page you can find the safest way to protect you against identity theft and provides 24/7 phone service to get your pet back to you safely as fast as it takes to make a phone call I have never been comfortable with micro-chipping and have never recommended it to my clients or readers. Recently I came across multiple articles on the dangers of micro-chipping, I would like to share that with you. Facts about Microchips in animals. Melvin T. Massey, DVM (Doctor of Veterinary Medicine) from Brownsboro, Texas, brought this to the attention of the American Horse Council when he wrote, "I am a retired Equine Veterinarian and still breed a few horses. Because of migration-infection-increased risk of sarcoids I will not want to have microchips in my horses." The Institute of Experimental Pathology at Hannover Medical School in Germany reported, "An experiment using 4279 CBA/J mice of two generations was carried out to investigate the influence of parental preconceptual exposure to X-ray radiation or to chemical carcinogens. Microchips were implanted subcutaneously in the dorsolateral back for unique identification of each animal. The animals were kept for life span under standard laboratory conditions. In 36 mice a circumscribed neoplasm occurred in the area of the implanted microchip. Macroscopically, firm, pale white nodules up to 25 mm in diameter with the microchip in its center were found. Macroscopically, soft tissue tumors such as fibrosarcoma and malignant fibrous histiocytoma were detected." Ecole Nationale Veterinaire of Unite d'Anatomie Pathologique in Nantes, France, reported, "Fifty-two subcutaneous tumors associated with microchip were collected from three carcinigenicity B6C3F1 mice studies. Two of these 52 tumors were adenocarcinoma of the mammary gland located on the dorsal region forming around the chip. All the other 50 were mesenchymal in origin and were difficult to classify on morphological grounds with haematoxylin- eosin." Marta Vascellari of Instituto Zooprofilattico Sperimentale delle Venezie at Viale dell'Universita in Legnaro, Italy reported examining a 9-year-old male French Bulldog for a subcutaneous mass located at the site of a microchip implant. "The mass was confirmed as a high-grade infiltrative fibrosarcoma, with multi focal necrosis and peripheral lymphoid aggregates." Even the limited research available clearly indicates that implantation of microchips within an animal is gambling with the animal's well being. For additional information, go to http://www.scribd.com/doc/28660991/RFID-Microchip-Implants-FAQ-by-Dr-Katheri ne-Albrecht, National Library of Medicine and National Institutes of Health, www.pubmed.gov, and google for "sarcomas associated with implanted microchips". "Microchip-Induced Tumors in Laboratory Rodents and Dogs: A Review of the Literature 1990-2006" by Katherine Albrecht, Ed.D http://www.antichips.com/cancer Dr. Blake recommends you not panic and try to have the chip removed. This would be very difficult to do, because of how small these chips are and the fact that they migrate. He recommend you palpate the area from around the neck and shoulders down to the forearms weekly. If you find a swelling in these areas, go to your veterinarian and have your animal checked out. If they find the chip is in the swelling area, they recommend immediate removal and biopsy. Chips fail 30% of the time; there are five different manufacturers of these microchips and they are not universally scanned by the same device. If your pet ends up at a location where they do not have the matching scanner for the chip in your pet, it will come up negative. * 22 calls made to "pet recovery lines" 15 made you leave a message (APA 2003) * Less than 1% of veterinarians scan every new client's pet to see if they are chipped (APA 2003) * APA states: " A recent poll showed that of 82 humane shelters contacted randomly, 61 did not have scanners (to read microchips). 8 had scanners but didn't use them and only 3 scanned microchips. * NONE contacted had more than one Microchip scanner. * Dr. Blake recommends only one safe way to make sure your pet returns home if he is lost and that is Smart-I-tag. You can learn more about this great idea that protects you against identity theft and provides 24/7 phone service to get your pet or anything you may loose , back to you safely as fast as it takes to make a phone call. How to order! Click this link to order the tags you want for you and your pets security http://www.smartitag.com/ Not only will you be protecting your most precious belongings, you will be helping the elephants in Tennessee, who need your help to survive. Thank you all for paying it forward. Please share my web site www.thepetwhisperer.com with three other people or lists and ask them to do the same. Your Frie
[Felvtalk] Introductions & Questions
Hi Everyone, I hope I'm doing this right. I've not belonged to a group like this before so I'm hoping this message is going to the right place. My husband and I have some experience with FeLV kitties as we took in a feral cat several years ago who tested positive. We were very lucky with Scampi in that he didn't have any problems from his disease until he was 13 years old when it got the better of him and we had to euthanize him. We now have another kitty who has tested positive for FeLV and has recently started having some problems so I would love to get some opinions on her from some of the more experienced members. Eden was a stray who came up to us in a field where we run our 5 dogs at night. We heard a cat meowing and as we got closer the meowing got louder. My husband pinpointed the sound and then suddenly this very skinny cat came walking out of the brush towards my husband. She was sweet as can be and starving nearly to death. We picked her up and brought her home and at her first vet check she tested positive for FeLV. She has been retested since then and has again come up with what the vet called a "strong positive". Eden is about 9 or 10 months old and had been doing well for the couple of months that we've had her. She recently stopped eating and just sort of looked like she wasn't feeling well so we took her to the vet. My regular vet was off so another vet cared for Eden. She did some blood work and found that Eden had a low WBC and neutrophil count, which as we know, is not that unusual for a FeLV kitty. But Eden also had a high temp so she got some IV fluids and antibiotics. She was able to come home after spending the night at the clinic but then a few days later she had the same symptoms. This time her temp was a bit higher then it had been the first time. She stayed again at the clinic, got some IV fluids and rebounded again. She came home this past Saturday and has been doing pretty well. She eats small meals several times a day and takes her antibiotics in a pill pocket without any trouble at all. She sleeps alot though and is not back to her normal self yet. The vet who took care of Eden thought that she was in the end stages of her FeLV and wasn't sure Eden would recover. But she has and we hope she continues to get better. Eden seems young to be in the end stage of her disease, although her system overall seems quite sensitive so maybe she's just more affected by the virus then other cats tend to be. The vet did not mention any of the treatments that are currently being used for FeLV and I'm wondering if there is anything that would be of benefit to Eden. She is so young and so precious and clearly didn't have a great start in life so we are so hoping to be able to give her a good life for however many years she has. Any thoughts or advice for our sweet girl would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Brenda ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Spanky - first IV chemo today
Hi: PLease send some healing thoughts and purrayers for Spanky today - he has his first chemo - vincristine. Paws crossed everything goes well. He's FELV+, age 13, mediastinal cranial mass - lymphoblastic large cell lymphoma dx'ed recently with the mass. I am worried about all the odds, side effects etc. but like everyone has said - you won't know if it will work until you try. Oncologist gave us 4 options and recommended the UW-Madison CHOP protocol. So here we go...very nervously! Thanks. Purrs, Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
