Hi - my name is Michelle and I just recently joined this FeLV group and I'm
sure it is going to be mine and my cats lifeline.
I am in a bit of dilema already. My baby girl had to put to sleep at Easter
after a long battle with many different ailments she was found to have FIV and
was in the
Yes I believe the Feline omega interferon is quite good so am interested to
try it. But speaking of Lymphoma - has anyone heard or tried the transfer factor
for animals. I found the productwhen I did asearch on FeLV - I think
the website is www.petsbadbreath.com- then search
for transfer
I'm so sorry to hear of those of you who have lost you beloved furkids. It
is so painful and I still miss my dear girl now even though it is 2 months since
her death. I think I ended up coping by writing her a poem and drawing her
aswell as being around other animals and taking my 3 new
I don't know if Bramble has ever had a FeLV shot. Like I said I've only had
these 3 for just over 3 weeks now from the sanctuary. There they put FIV and
FeLV cats in a pen together which is crazy - they should never expose an FIV cat
to an FeLV cat (a) a because FeLV is easier to spread than
Oh that is such a sweet story about Bones - so please she has improved -
the just cope so remarkably well.
Bramble (FIV+) has now been on Feline Omega Interferon for 2 days and I am
learning how to inject tomorrow so that I can just do it at home to save him the
stress of the vet visits. I
Hi Guys
You may recall Bramble (FIV+) went Ataxic on Tuesday and then recovered -
he started Omega Interferon on Thursday - and is on 2.5mg daily of Fortekor for
a heart murmer. Waiting to hear results still for calicivirus, herpesvirus and
FeLV.
I was on the phone to the emergency vet
Thanks Barbs for the positive vibes for Bramble
Your right there is much more to consider than just the seizures. But the
outline is this: Bramble is FIV+ and has been very syptomatic in the sanctuary
for 2 years. I have had him for just over 3 weeks and in that time he has had a
much
Thanks for the support - I know that this is an FeLV group and Bramble's
problem is mainly FIV - althouhgawaiting FeLV results it's nice that you
are still offering the support for a probably non-FeLV problem.
Nina - the vet doesn't think it is anything to do with the flea treatment
drops
Thankyou for you support
Well I stood in the vets sobbing my heart out - she considered the flea
treatment and said she thinks it is highly unlikely but she couldn't rule it
out. She had only ever seen seizures once from stronghold in a dog whose owner
administered it orally accidently -
I am not going to read about them as I will get too disturbed but what a horrendous thing to find out. You assume that animals at least get safety when they are placed in a sanctuary from past neglet and abuse - to think that they are just being prisoned to be abused again makes my heart bleed so
I have just left my views about the military issue - hope they choke on it
too - that it so horrendous - the amount of fear those poor dogs must have felt
is just to heartbreaking to consider.
My transfer factor has arrived today so I have given Bramble one straight
away. His pupils have
Barbara- I just emailed it to them.
Michelle L
I just had an interesting conversation with my dogs vet. Unfortunately
Bramble has to go to a different vet because the sanctuary pay but I sure wish
he went to my dogs vet. I mentioned the current episode and my concerns about
stronghold/Revolution. When I told her she was nodding her head
Thanks Jenn for adding that.
Thanks for offering to find out Nina - if anyone else can find anything out
too that would be great - baring in mind the neurological problems probably are
FIV related.
PS - Bramble is on feline omega interferon - not human form
interferon.
Thanks Michelle
I
I should also mention that he takes 2.5mg of Fortekor daily too for a heart
murmer. And also that he has been treated for many secondary infections -
respiratory, earmites, dental etc... over the last two years.
Michelle L
I should have just put the whole information to begin with sorry.
He is currently taking Antirobe (antibiotic) for gingivitis following his
dental op - has about a week of these left.
2.5mg of Fortekor for heart Murmer -Daily
Has had 5 injections of Feline Omega Interferon - starts the next 5
The vet prescribed the omega interferon Barbara - it's they only one they
use in UK
Michelle L
So good that Ginger is eating. My last cat Tidge had periactin to stimulate
her appetite it worked a treat for her too. Hope she continues to be well.
Michelle L
I have to nip out now but am going to read the rest of the FeLV group
updates when I return and update on Bramble.
Thanks
So sorry to hear of the problems that a couple of you have been having but
thankgoodness the kittens temperature is normal.
Bramble is still getting along although he his stools are loose (he has
never covered it up properly since the day I got him - he just scratches at the
tray instead of
Nina I didn't ask where that vet practised although I wish I had and took
him there. Bramble's sight has restored anymore - he seems to seemore when
there is very little light but but not really see much at all when the light is
on - I've kept the light down as much as possible for him - he
Erika
If you go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FivCats/
you should be able to join from there
Michelle, bramble, buddy, and minstrel
Hello
Bramble is still managing ok at the moment although I supect he is still having mild seizures although nothing like he was for the 3 days following that blasted revolution/stronghold treatment - never again will I use that on my cats. He is now just having moments where he appears
Hi
It's too early to say yet so I don't want to run before I can walk here but
Bramble has been on the Transfer Factor noe since Saturday and his coat is
shining. His coat was always dull and full of dandruff - the dandruff is going
and his coat is shining and feels so silky. He has jumped
I need to mention that also anyone in Florida (will find out which area) I
have a friend who is a volunteer at a local sanctuary who are a non-kill shelter
for cats and dogs they set up because they thought that kill shelters are
barbaric and they wanted to save the animals and quite
That email address should have been [EMAIL PROTECTED] not samietoo - sorry
Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel, Buddy
Tonya his vet is back on Monday so I will schedule something for next week.
Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel Buddy.
The boy was doing so well - I've come home to find he has scratched fur and
skin off the side of his face over the last couple of hours and it's a big
chunk. He will need to go back to the vet tomorrow but he is not going to that
particular vet - I'll demand a different vet. He either has an
His fur feels soft and silky nowother than around his ears and face
Is amber ok now - was there anything that you identified as causing it?
Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel Buddy
Yes I changed Bramble's diet to organic whiskers instead of usual but he as
scratched his ears whilst he was on the normal stuff as does Minstrel. It could
be dust mite allergy too. Bramble hasn't made anymore mess of his face. I have
been putting E45 cream it - I would usually put 50% E45
Such good news Gloria for George and the otherkittie who has just been released from her cage and tremendous progress that she got on the bed with you even though she freaked when you woke up and moved - she must know you are not a threat.
They'll soon learn that you just want to care for them
Thanks for the info on nutrition and supplements. Unfortunately for Bramble
I am unable to cook it for him myself or make broth etc... as I am vegan and can
only just manage scraping fish out of a tin (which he isn't eating) or breaking
up ready cooked chicken, or emptying food out of a
Bramble has been doing well with the scratching thanks- his skin has
improved a lot - only a small scab left now and no fur of course bless
him.
The pill that the vet put him on is doing good for his skin but the
steroids will help stop the itch too. It has been a risk assesment really and
My thoughts and prayers are with all of you whose cats are sick at the
moment.
george may be sick but at least now he has the care he so much deserves no
matter what happens.
Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel, Buddy
I hope Flavia and George are doing ok - I will keep praying for them. Jenn how is bones doing - hope he is ok too?
As for my furboy - Bramble ate nearly a full pouch of whiskers cat food this morning along with 3 slices of chicken and I was so proud of him - he even came out and ate the cat food
Why does everything published need to written by a vet - half of them don't
have a clue. I don't see any reason why a group of FIV+or FeLV+ kittie
owners can't get together and write about thier experiences of living and
dealing with FIV or FeLV and even the problems we face in that so many
Erika, Hiyedo and anyone else who likes the idea
I'd be happy to be involved I think it would take planning about what kind of info we would include but I think so long as we state that people should discuss with an experienced vet before using any treatments we may mention then I think that
So pleased that George and Flavia are getting along ok - prayers that the continue on the path to prolonged quality of life.
Stephanie - I'm horrified at the thought of a vet trying to kill any animal by overdosing although as Hiyedo said I'm sure there are many who just don't know and just do
Poor Flavia - Tidge started to eat cat litter when she was getting ill but that went on for months. Sometimes it can be because they are lacking in a vitamin or mineral (can't remember which though), or some cats just like the feel of chewing litter although if she has just started on the litter
Kerry is regular at food is whiskers pouches with biscuits - I now add a
general multi vit once a day. He has the fish and chicken also as extras - I
can't just about handle that.
Michelle, Bramble, Buddy Minstrel
SO sorry to hear about ling but good you are there to help him and ease his suffering in his time of need.
My thoughts are with you, Ling, and your family.
Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel Buddy
1) Such a horrible thing to happen at Angel Wings but thank goodness the cats and dogs are now out of there - and even the ones who get euthanased have got to be better off than they were suffering in there. Sanctuary's are supposed to be safe for the animals - at least they are safe now.
2)
If Your kittie does have allergies Gloria - we have a drug in UK called cyclosporin that is supposed to be the new up and coming drug for treating allergies and is supposed to be really good. I don't think it weakens the immune system as steroids do but I would need to double check on that -
Anne
Don't do it is the answer. As I found out the hard way with my Bramble and
the help of this group - you are not supposed to give it cats with concomitant
disease. Also never put it near any recent injection sites. The Revolution
caused Bramble (FIV+) to have nasty severe seizures and I
I discovered yesterday that Bramble is still having very mild seizures - however, now that the revolution is out of his system the seizures are very mild compared to afterrevolution was given to him. He just freezes with his jaw open for seconds then carries on. He won't eat for a few hoursafter
I went to the vet - I had fun trying to catch Buddy to get her in the cat carrier. She tried to jump off the vet consult table twice - I had to catch her in mid air. We are waiting to see if she will be able to fight off the virus over the weekend - if she does we will leave her for now - if not
Sorry not read or posted for a while - I have been in Istanbul for a few
days to go to a wedding there- my mum was cat sitting. A bomb went off at the
Galata bridgeclose to where we were eating on Saturday night but
fortunately very few casualties. Unbeliveable - Bobms going off in Egypt,
Hi Nina
Bramble has had sooo sooo many treatments in the 2 months or so that I've
had him.
He has had antirobe for his skin and gums -his skin is much better
now. Again for his bacterial folliculitis he had antirobe plus grisovin and
iodine for his ringworm. He has had ovarid to help his
I phoned the vet toremind myself whattime Bramble's appointment
was today - just aswell I did as it was booked for next week - so I booked him
in and tookhim today also.The vet had thought he had scratched his
nose last week but I felt it was an ulcer he scratched - today they say it now
I am in the UK so the vets cannot write up Interferon Alpha - I would be
prepared to ship in Alpha and give daily - but I am not sure (a) if it legal
for me to import Interferon Alpha to the UK and (b) if the Interferon Alpha can
be shipped overnight to the UK - anyone with knowledge or
I too would question what happened during Brandy's first year of life - he
may even have contracted both from his mother at Birth - but unless tests are
done at about a year old you don't really know - often you don't find out until
they are symptomatic.
Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel Bramble
Any ideas please
Bramble has Calici again after catching it from Buddy as I mentioned last week
- his nose is ulcerated and I'm sure his throat is too as he is really hungry
and wants his food but can't seem to eat much of it. I've tried mashing it for
him but I think his throat is too sore.
Thanks for your ideas - I will store and try.
Well I panicked but the vet was fairly calm. When I put Bramble in his
carry case to go vet he sulked and slammed his tail down covering his bottom - I
wonder if he remembered the temperature taking last visit bless him. I told the
vet what had
Bramble managed to eat nearly 2 sachets of cat food yesterday - he won't
touch any of the extra bits I got to try - cottage cheese, ice cream, cream,
butter, etc... He seems to like the John west pressed cod roe though (if he eats
it he can have it). I came home from work and worked from
Today Bramble is worse - he is very lethargic, has swollen lymph
nodesand refuses to eat showing no interest in food. Iforce fed him
bits but he gets stressed by it all. He looks so depressed and I fear that he is
starting to give up - if he is the same over weekend I think I will need to
Thankyou all for kind words and prayers. I syringed fed a little chicken
soup last night and got his tablets down him but it was not easy. He slept on my
bed most of the night and mostly on top of me. He was so so sick yesterday - his
head was stooping as he was constantlydozing and had an
Bramble went to the vet yesterday. He is probably bodering was was not
considered to be too dehydrated - he does still drink water though, he was given
some sub-Q fluids but would only tolerate 45ml. The vet gave me some Hills a/d
food to syringe feed him and we have put him on periactin to
What an ordeal you have all had. I am glad it has all ended well for the
humans and the felines in your family and hope it continues to get better.
Despite things having been overlooked in your husbands
casewhichhappens fairly often -you are both fortunate to have
come out of it -
Hi Nina
No no-one has discussed valium - I'll see how he goes for a couple of days
- he has his second bout of interferon from thursday. I'll mention it to the vet
when I see her.
Thanks
Michelle, bramble, Minstrel Buddy
I think I should just clarify this interferon question a little. As you
know the animal sanctuary that Bramble came from pay the vet bill for his FIV
related problems - and that bill must be quite substantial already.
It is not that I want to use Alpha over Omega - and would be happier to
Nina - The interferon omega is given differently depending on what they
give it for. For Claicivirus they would give it orally usually but for FIV
protocol it is injected - There is 5mu in a vial (5 vials = £170) and they need
1mu per kilo of body weight daily for 5 days then 2 weeks from
Yes Bramble is getting periactin - half a tablet 2 times a day. He is also
drinking water and getting extra water with his syringed food so is hydrated.
When the vet weighed him the other day he hadn't actually last too much weight
surprisingly and feels as though he has a put a little on
Today Bramble would only tolerate 25ml of syringe feeding but he ate a full
tin of Purina Gourmet complemetary food along with a few complete food biscuits
a little complete food kitekat meat - all on his own. Fingers crossed he carries
on this way. My mum is on cat care duties for most of
I sent a message for Kerry as she requested my address - but think I sent
it to someone elses e-mail address first accidently - whoever got it please
ignore - sorry for the mishap.
Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel Buddy
PS - Michelle - I'm scared offlyingtoo (ha ha) - jumping out
wasa
I thought I'd better update - it saddens me to say that on Monday I will
most likely be saying goodbye to my boy Bramble. I know I've been here before
wondering if I should put to sleep or not - at all other times I had doubt and
it felt wrong - now it feels right. He hasn't taken well to
My dear boy Bramble was put to sleep about an hour ago. I mentioned
yesterday that he started to get very stressed with syringe feedingdespite
trying to be as calm as possible for him. But aside from that - he was drinking
excess so I wondered about this kidneys failing, he went a bit
Thankyou all for kind words over Brambles passing. I am at peace becase I
know it was right for him. He told me he had had enough and I am in no doubt of
that. I can't remember who it was here who suggeted communicating with your cats
in that way but I thank you so much - it is the way I
signing Angel Bramble is a lovely idea - thanks. I just visited the Candle
light service site today for the first time to have a browse wondering how to
add Bramble and it was lovely to see he is already there. The candle light
service wasn't something I was too familiar with but who ever
So sorry to hear of Ewok's tumor - I hope all works out well and Ewok
regains his health.
Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy Angel Bramble
Jennifer - this is such an awful situation for you. I am unable to help in the
UK but I hope all works out well and that lives can be turned around - it must
surely be your turn for good fortune after all what has happened. I find it
frustrating that bad things happen to innocent decent caring
John - how old is Smokey? and why is Smokey on steroids. If Smokey is on FeLV
then long term cortico-steroid use weakens the immune system so not ideal for
FIV or FeLV cats. (Someone correct me if Prednisilone is not cortico - please
but I thought it was).
As for the drinking then I'd agree
John also be aware that if cats don't eat enough they are in danger of fatty
liver disease - so it's a case of trying every food possible until they eat it
and sometimes assistfeeding to supplement - with syringes - some acts tolerate
well but others don't. Smokey will still need to get her
SO sorry to hear about Salome Terri - it hurts so much but when you know they
are suffering and are tired and have no spirit left to fight then it is right
to help to give them the dignity they deserve and to help ease their pain
humanely.
Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy Angel Bramble
I had to take Buddy to the vet on Monday. She has Gingivitis and needs dental
op - she is booed in next Monday. I was ok going to the vet and didn't expect
what I was to feel when I went in the door. The second I walked through the
door I just had some subconscious reaction and started to
Jen I pray that you and everyone else involved manages to keep safe and keep
their animals safe too. I hope that homes etc... don't get too damaged either.
Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy Angel Bramble
Hi
I am posting this for a friend who rescues in Florida - she sent me this
message
"I have a cat, Kitty Boy, who is VERY
skinny!! He hasn't been playful either, and I know there is definitely
something very wrong!! He's always hungry! His belly is big in
comparison to the rest of him!
Nina
so sorry to hear of this sad time. Having Euthanased my dear Tidge and
Bramble I can say that they were different experiences. I personally wouldn't
sedate another who was weak before the shot as Tidge's veins collapsed due to
the sedative so they had to give her the shot through her
Yes please Hideyo - thanks
Just out of interest - did you get the full thyroid test done or the basic
test?
Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy Angel Bramble
Hi - the cat I was asking about I have discovered is 2.5 years old.
Michelle, Minstrel, buddy Angel Bramble
Nina I am sat here in floods of tears - it brought Brambles last moments
ack to me - I understand how special it is when they warm your heart in those
last moments - both Bramble and Tidge did for me and they always stay so
important. It will be a nice memory for you to cherish.
I'm pleased
I'm just catching up and read about Paulie.
So many losses and sick kitties - so sorry Julie. Paulie and Gracie can
cross to the bridge together.
Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy, Angel Bramble
My friend is panicking in relation to the possible vet costs that could
occur with the cat I was asking about - the one who has Hyperthyroid symptoms. I
told her to get thyroid liver and kidney function blood work done. She is
worried about how much that would cost as she couldn't afford a
My darling Gemma has gone to the bridge. I asked her brother to come and
get her and told Gemma to go to go to sleep and find her brother. I told her not
to chase Tidge and Bramble around too much.
We had her put to sleep in the car as I lay at the side of her. I have
selected a photo
Firstly I hope the cat with Hartz poisoning manages to pull throgh - their
products are lethal and I thought they had withdrawn from the shelf now in
stores. If it is a flea treatment then wash the area thoroughly to get the
excess off. Before Bramble passed he had a reaction to Revolution
One of the FIV group members once told us his flea ridding story and I couldn't
stop laughing.
He said use a comb which I agree after seeing the horror of topical flea
treatments I wouldn't use them on an FIV or FeLV cat again.
He said when you get a flea off pop it in some water in a pot
Julie
You are going through a rough time and my prayers are with you. Pleased that
Eduardo came back so lets hope he gets stronger from here. So sorry about Mandy
not doing so well.
Also good thought going out to all furbabies who are doing doing so well at the
moment and also to protect the
I had to post this because I couldn't believe what I was reading.
It is FIV and not FeLV but still this place is supposed to be a humane society
and they would treat FeLV in the same way. The message came from a lady on the
FIV group and it really did sicken me. If anyone wants to post her with
Although I have my kitties I've always had adult kitties and never kittens and
some one asked me a question I couldn't answer yesterday. Does anyone know what
age kittens should be on average before you start weaning them from kitten food
onto general adult cat food?
I suspected introducing
Hello
Sorry for not replying to all individually but as I read through the many posts
I see so many heartbreaking stories again of our sick kitties. So I would just
like to add my positive thoughts to all our sick kitties and our other animals.
I'm sure they all gain comfort knowing that they
Prayers going out for Mandy's soul as she goes to the bridge. It's heart
breaking but I understand what you say about the value of having a lovely last
day together - it is priceless.
I hope you can be comforted knowing she loved and trusted you enough to do the
right thing and she showed that
I thought I'd share this
I had a strange exprience this morning. I got up around 6.30am to go to the
bathroom which is next door to my bedroom. It was dark and I did not put any
lights on as I intended to go back to bed. Of course the cats stay with me and
I close the door so they don't get
Yes unfortunately very true. It is much cheaper to import cat and dog fur
from china than fake fur. Last year I voiced my disgust at a couple of shops
here in the uk for passing furry ball scarfs off as fake - they were not
labelled and smelled like animal and you could see the animal skin
Children are more suseptible than adults but if you have dryer sking then
you are more likely to catch it. I caught it when Bramble had it. You can apply
iodiene on the ringworm areas to help the fungal spores from spreading - Bramble
used to like the iodiene as it is kept in the fridge so
Ringworm in humans generally doesn't present as spots. It will generally look
like circles under your skin and can itch. Drove me mad itching i thought it
was prickly heat.
The iodiene did stop the spores spreading from Bramble to Minstrel and Buddy
though - they didn't get it and they are in
Iodiene just helps to stop the fungal spores from spreading.
It doesn't have any therapeutic effect but I think just the fact it is cold
from the fridge that gives a little soothing effect for them. It is also good
for preventing secondary bacterial infection (like bacterial folliculitis)
Wendy
I don't know if you were a member when I had Bramble so apologies if you
heard this already and to those who have already heard this story as many of you
have.
I had never really attempted animal communication before either but decided
to try following advice from people here when I
Wendy
Our animals certainly know when we are unhappy and worried which we generally
are when they are sick. I think the most important thing is that you are just
honest with them and relaxed - tell cricket how you are feeling and that you
may cry because you care etc... I'm sure one day you
Prayers coming your way for you and your babies Hideyo - hope all works out
well.
Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy Angel Bramble
I too feel anger at owner who owned Bramble and Tidge before I had them for a
short time - both FIV+. However the fact that they trusted me and loved me for
that short time as Max did with you is an honour and they let us know we at
least made them happy and gave them a sense of safety. I think
So sorry to hear Cricket is crossing to the bridge. I had both Tidge and
Bramble PTS with a sedative first. I have had good and bad experiences with
sedatives before the pts injection but even so I would never pts without giving
a sedative first. What I've found is that even if they have a
I'm glad you mentioned that Jenn - I wasn't sure how much info to leave or not
but it is an important one. When I had to have Tidge put to sleep the sedatiev
worked quickly but her veins collapsed as teh sedative causes a drop in blood
pressure so the vet had to go through her stomache. I can't
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