Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
Long time ago, before the radiation therapy for hyperthyroidism came here from Houston, one of my tiny calicos began having thyroid issues, ate a lot, lost weight, tested and had it. At that time, they were still doing surgery. I went to a very expensive cat specialist who I will not name because he treated me like dinosaurs used to treat women, like I did not have a brain. However, he was an excellent surgeon and Cutie Pie lived several more years without losing another ounce of weight. She didn't gain much either but she had always been a slim cat. She passed of old age. There is also the transdermal treatment with the same meds as the pill has. I was very unsuccessful with treating Vinney that way. He was not a candidate for radiation therapy because of the money involved and also because he lost weight so rapidly that he became weakened and the vet said that since he was over 15 years old, the treatment would not extend his life or quality of life much. Vinney passed away two years ago. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food We had one cat with hyperthyroidism and we did the one time iodine treatment, brought him home 4 days later and he has been great ever since. We did not want to force pills down his gullet twice a day for the rest of his life. Plus there was the cost factor, $1,000 a year for the rest of his life or one time $1,675 treatment. We opted for the one time treatment. Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:31:49 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I had 2 cats with hyper thyroid. Shallie i took to Missou at Columbia and had to leave her there for 3 weeks because she was radioactive. Convinced them to let me bring her home early after I agreed to keep her seperate for the others and dispose of her litter safely. She was on Tapazole, but it did not do much good as she kept spitting them out when I was not looking. I kept finding little white pills all over. Second was her brother 1 year later. I decided not to pursue treatment considering results with Shallie. She lost much of her hair, never was able to ut on wieight and every time she sneezed, it was blood. Like the meds were a blood thinner. She was miserable and I did not want to ut tigger thru that. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: BTW – Re :HYPERTHYROIDISM – my vet told me that RadioCat has a 4-month, ½ price special for radioiodine treatments, starting Nov. 1 – performed at area veterinary clinics on East Coast, check with them if it’s going on in other areas. I’ve had bad experiences with Tapazole/Methimazole….and this would be a lot cheaper in the long run! Have had 3 cats done, and 2 more are getting it done by RadioCat (www.RadioCat.com ) at a super price. My new email address is:atia@gmail.com From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:58 AM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Costco's Kirkland is excellent. Unfortunately, it just went up in price a dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99. It was about $17.59 a couple of weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality cat food. I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away from the ACO's who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats. Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place. Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems. I finally have it under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well known in the rescue community. I got several adoptions through her organization which culled the herd nicely. A couple of my older cats passed on from kidney failure, one from cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who was about 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor. I think it was all due to the stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. Anyway, to straighten out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland because it has the highest fat content of any of the dry foods. Several months and several bags of Kirkland later, one of my cats who was almost bald now has a really nice coat (long fur girl, house feral) and the scabs on her skin are gone. She has put on at least a pound, if not two. The other cats are gaining weight, all except one. He needs a thyroid profile when I get some money. But he's holding his own also. Of course, my fat cats are getting fatter by the minute. But on the whole
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
Rascal has not gained a lot of weight back but he did gain a little and is doing well. Sorry to hear about Cutie Pie and Vinney :( We take our cats to Gulf Coast Veterinary Specialists when they need specialized treatment AND what many people do not know about is the Care Credit card. It is a medical credit card that can be used both for animals and people :) Anything over $1,000 is one year to 18 months no interest, $500 and under is six months no interest. Best credit card we have. Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:14:16 -0700 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Long time ago, before the radiation therapy for hyperthyroidism came here from Houston, one of my tiny calicos began having thyroid issues, ate a lot, lost weight, tested and had it. At that time, they were still doing surgery. I went to a very expensive cat specialist who I will not name because he treated me like dinosaurs used to treat women, like I did not have a brain. However, he was an excellent surgeon and Cutie Pie lived several more years without losing another ounce of weight. She didn't gain much either but she had always been a slim cat. She passed of old age. There is also the transdermal treatment with the same meds as the pill has. I was very unsuccessful with treating Vinney that way. He was not a candidate for radiation therapy because of the money involved and also because he lost weight so rapidly that he became weakened and the vet said that since he was over 15 years old, the treatment would not extend his life or quality of life much. Vinney passed away two years ago. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food We had one cat with hyperthyroidism and we did the one time iodine treatment, brought him home 4 days later and he has been great ever since. We did not want to force pills down his gullet twice a day for the rest of his life. Plus there was the cost factor, $1,000 a year for the rest of his life or one time $1,675 treatment. We opted for the one time treatment. Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:31:49 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I had 2 cats with hyper thyroid. Shallie i took to Missou at Columbia and had to leave her there for 3 weeks because she was radioactive. Convinced them to let me bring her home early after I agreed to keep her seperate for the others and dispose of her litter safely. She was on Tapazole, but it did not do much good as she kept spitting them out when I was not looking. I kept finding little white pills all over. Second was her brother 1 year later. I decided not to pursue treatment considering results with Shallie. She lost much of her hair, never was able to ut on wieight and every time she sneezed, it was blood. Like the meds were a blood thinner. She was miserable and I did not want to ut tigger thru that. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: BTW – Re :HYPERTHYROIDISM – my vet told me that RadioCat has a 4-month, ½ price special for radioiodine treatments, starting Nov. 1 – performed at area veterinary clinics on East Coast, check with them if it’s going on in other areas. I’ve had bad experiences with Tapazole/Methimazole….and this would be a lot cheaper in the long run! Have had 3 cats done, and 2 more are getting it done by RadioCat (www.RadioCat.com ) at a super price. My new email address is:atia@gmail.com From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:58 AM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Costco's Kirkland is excellent. Unfortunately, it just went up in price a dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99. It was about $17.59 a couple of weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality cat food. I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away from the ACO's who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats. Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place. Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems. I finally have it under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well known in the rescue community. I got several adoptions through her organization which culled the herd nicely. A couple of my older cats passed on from kidney failure, one from cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who was about 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor. I think it was all due to the stress of moving
[Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
Costco's Kirkland is excellent. Unfortunately, it just went up in price a dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99. It was about $17.59 a couple of weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality cat food. I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away from the ACO's who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats. Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place. Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems. I finally have it under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well known in the rescue community. I got several adoptions through her organization which culled the herd nicely. A couple of my older cats passed on from kidney failure, one from cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who was about 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor. I think it was all due to the stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. Anyway, to straighten out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland because it has the highest fat content of any of the dry foods. Several months and several bags of Kirkland later, one of my cats who was almost bald now has a really nice coat (long fur girl, house feral) and the scabs on her skin are gone. She has put on at least a pound, if not two. The other cats are gaining weight, all except one. He needs a thyroid profile when I get some money. But he's holding his own also. Of course, my fat cats are getting fatter by the minute. But on the whole, I'm very happy with Kirkland. I also use Paws and Claws, which is the brand Tractor Supply feed store puts out. It's quite a bargain although not as fatty as Kirkland but costs $20 for 36 pounds. I only use canned for the cat who has stomatitis. Since Kirkland is smaller pellets than other cat food, he is able to eat it without trouble. I have a membership at Costco through my animal rights organization. There are three of us who do cat rescue and we share the membership fee each year. We are tax exempt, which helps also with the price. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too!___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
They also had q recall not to long ago. I don't remember what happened but I know somranimalsgot very sick, including a friend of mine's cats. But that can happen with any brand esp if they are buying ingredients from other suppliers. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Costco's Kirkland is excellent. Unfortunately, it just went up in price a dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99. It was about $17.59 a couple of weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality cat food. I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away from the ACO's who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats. Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place. Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems. I finally have it under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well known in the rescue community. I got several adoptions through her organization which culled the herd nicely. A couple of my older cats passed on from kidney failure, one from cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who was about 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor. I think it was all due to the stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. Anyway, to straighten out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland because it has the highest fat content of any of the dry foods. Several months and several bags of Kirkland later, one of my cats who was almost bald now has a really nice coat (long fur girl, house feral) and the scabs on her skin are gone. She has put on at least a pound, if not two. The other cats are gaining weight, all except one. He needs a thyroid profile when I get some money. But he's holding his own also. Of course, my fat cats are getting fatter by the minute. But on the whole, I'm very happy with Kirkland. I also use Paws and Claws, which is the brand Tractor Supply feed store puts out. It's quite a bargain although not as fatty as Kirkland but costs $20 for 36 pounds. I only use canned for the cat who has stomatitis. Since Kirkland is smaller pellets than other cat food, he is able to eat it without trouble. I have a membership at Costco through my animal rights organization. There are three of us who do cat rescue and we share the membership fee each year. We are tax exempt, which helps also with the price. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
BTW Re :HYPERTHYROIDISM my vet told me that RadioCat has a 4-month, ½ price special for radioiodine treatments, starting Nov. 1 performed at area veterinary clinics on East Coast, check with them if its going on in other areas. Ive had bad experiences with Tapazole/Methimazole .and this would be a lot cheaper in the long run! Have had 3 cats done, and 2 more are getting it done by RadioCat (www.RadioCat.com ) at a super price. My new email address is:atia@gmail.com From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:58 AM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Costco's Kirkland is excellent. Unfortunately, it just went up in price a dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99. It was about $17.59 a couple of weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality cat food. I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away from the ACO's who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats. Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place. Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems. I finally have it under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well known in the rescue community. I got several adoptions through her organization which culled the herd nicely. A couple of my older cats passed on from kidney failure, one from cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who was about 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor. I think it was all due to the stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. Anyway, to straighten out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland because it has the highest fat content of any of the dry foods. Several months and several bags of Kirkland later, one of my cats who was almost bald now has a really nice coat (long fur girl, house feral) and the scabs on her skin are gone. She has put on at least a pound, if not two. The other cats are gaining weight, all except one. He needs a thyroid profile when I get some money. But he's holding his own also. Of course, my fat cats are getting fatter by the minute. But on the whole, I'm very happy with Kirkland. I also use Paws and Claws, which is the brand Tractor Supply feed store puts out. It's quite a bargain although not as fatty as Kirkland but costs $20 for 36 pounds. I only use canned for the cat who has stomatitis. Since Kirkland is smaller pellets than other cat food, he is able to eat it without trouble. I have a membership at Costco through my animal rights organization. There are three of us who do cat rescue and we share the membership fee each year. We are tax exempt, which helps also with the price. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That was Diamond brand cat food, from a manufacturer on the East Coast - I think in Georgia. Kirkland purple bag cat food made for Costco was not involved. The Diamond cat food that was involved had salmonella. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food They also had q recall not to long ago. I don't remember what happened but I know somranimalsgot very sick, including a friend of mine's cats. But that can happen with any brand esp if they are buying ingredients from other suppliers. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Costco's Kirkland is excellent. Unfortunately, it just went up in price a dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99. It was about $17.59 a couple of weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality cat food. I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away from the ACO's who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats. Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place. Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems. I finally have it under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well known in the rescue community. I got several adoptions through her organization which culled the herd nicely. A couple of my older cats passed on from kidney failure, one from cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who was about 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor. I think it was all due to the stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. Anyway, to straighten out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland because it has the highest fat content of any of the dry foods. Several months and several bags of Kirkland later, one of my cats who was almost bald now has a really nice coat (long fur girl, house feral) and the scabs on her skin are gone. She has put on at least a pound, if not two. The other cats are gaining weight, all except one. He needs a thyroid profile when I get some money. But he's holding his own also. Of course, my fat cats are getting fatter by the minute. But on the whole, I'm very happy with Kirkland. I also use Paws and Claws, which is the brand Tractor Supply feed store puts out. It's quite a bargain although not as fatty as Kirkland but costs $20 for 36 pounds. I only use canned for the cat who has stomatitis. Since Kirkland is smaller pellets than other cat food, he is able to eat it without trouble. I have a membership at Costco through my animal rights organization. There are three of us who do cat rescue and we share the membership fee each year. We are tax exempt, which helps also with the price. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Every time you hear about a recall, it involves a company in Georgia that does foods for almost every brand of cat and dog food. i got hung up in the one with the filler that caused kidney and liver damage. My guys didn't get hurt, but I had to test to be sure they were safe and they were on Hill's Science Diet at the time. You know the SAFE food. That and the fact that everyoe seems to put corn, wheat and soy + other things in their food and I started looking for something better. On Blud Bufalo now. We expecially like DUCK. Now it is treats that the FDA can't figure out what is wrong with the treats so they have not issued a recall. Pretty soon we will be forced to make our own if we want safe, quality food. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: That was Diamond brand cat food, from a manufacturer on the East Coast - I think in Georgia. Kirkland purple bag cat food made for Costco was not involved. The Diamond cat food that was involved had salmonella. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food They also had q recall not to long ago. I don't remember what happened but I know somranimalsgot very sick, including a friend of mine's cats. But that can happen with any brand esp if they are buying ingredients from other suppliers. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Costco's Kirkland is excellent. Unfortunately, it just went up in price a dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99. It was about $17.59 a couple of weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality cat food. I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away from the ACO's who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats. Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place. Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems. I finally have it under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well known in the rescue community. I got several adoptions through her organization which culled the herd nicely. A couple of my older cats passed on from kidney failure, one from cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who was about 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor. I think it was all due to the stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. Anyway, to straighten out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland because it has the highest fat content of any of the dry foods. Several months and several bags of Kirkland later, one of my cats who was almost bald now has a really nice coat (long fur girl, house feral) and the scabs on her skin are gone. She has put on at least a pound, if not two. The other cats are gaining weight, all except one. He needs a thyroid profile when I get some money. But he's holding his own also. Of course, my fat cats are getting fatter by the minute. But on the whole, I'm very happy with Kirkland. I also use Paws and Claws, which is the brand Tractor Supply feed store puts out. It's quite a bargain although not as fatty as Kirkland but costs $20 for 36 pounds. I only use canned for the cat who has stomatitis. Since Kirkland is smaller pellets than other cat food, he is able to eat it without trouble. I have a membership at Costco through my animal rights organization. There are three of us who do cat rescue and we share the membership fee each year. We are tax exempt, which helps also with the price. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
I had 2 cats with hyper thyroid. Shallie i took to Missou at Columbia and had to leave her there for 3 weeks because she was radioactive. Convinced them to let me bring her home early after I agreed to keep her seperate for the others and dispose of her litter safely. She was on Tapazole, but it did not do much good as she kept spitting them out when I was not looking. I kept finding little white pills all over. Second was her brother 1 year later. I decided not to pursue treatment considering results with Shallie. She lost much of her hair, never was able to ut on wieight and every time she sneezed, it was blood. Like the meds were a blood thinner. She was miserable and I did not want to ut tigger thru that. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: BTW Re :HYPERTHYROIDISM my vet told me that RadioCat has a 4-month, ½ price special for radioiodine treatments, starting Nov. 1 performed at area veterinary clinics on East Coast, check with them if its going on in other areas. Ive had bad experiences with Tapazole/Methimazole .and this would be a lot cheaper in the long run! Have had 3 cats done, and 2 more are getting it done by RadioCat (www.RadioCat.com ) at a super price. My new email address is:atia@gmail.com From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:58 AM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Costco's Kirkland is excellent. Unfortunately, it just went up in price a dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99. It was about $17.59 a couple of weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality cat food. I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away from the ACO's who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats. Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place. Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems. I finally have it under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well known in the rescue community. I got several adoptions through her organization which culled the herd nicely. A couple of my older cats passed on from kidney failure, one from cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who was about 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor. I think it was all due to the stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. Anyway, to straighten out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland because it has the highest fat content of any of the dry foods. Several months and several bags of Kirkland later, one of my cats who was almost bald now has a really nice coat (long fur girl, house feral) and the scabs on her skin are gone. She has put on at least a pound, if not two. The other cats are gaining weight, all except one. He needs a thyroid profile when I get some money. But he's holding his own also. Of course, my fat cats are getting fatter by the minute. But on the whole, I'm very happy with Kirkland. I also use Paws and Claws, which is the brand Tractor Supply feed store puts out. It's quite a bargain although not as fatty as Kirkland but costs $20 for 36 pounds. I only use canned for the cat who has stomatitis. Since Kirkland is smaller pellets than other cat food, he is able to eat it without trouble. I have a membership at Costco through my animal rights organization. There are three of us who do cat rescue and we share the membership fee each year. We are tax exempt, which helps also with the price. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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We had one cat with hyperthyroidism and we did the one time iodine treatment, brought him home 4 days later and he has been great ever since. We did not want to force pills down his gullet twice a day for the rest of his life. Plus there was the cost factor, $1,000 a year for the rest of his life or one time $1,675 treatment. We opted for the one time treatment. Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:31:49 -0500 From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I had 2 cats with hyper thyroid. Shallie i took to Missou at Columbia and had to leave her there for 3 weeks because she was radioactive. Convinced them to let me bring her home early after I agreed to keep her seperate for the others and dispose of her litter safely. She was on Tapazole, but it did not do much good as she kept spitting them out when I was not looking. I kept finding little white pills all over. Second was her brother 1 year later. I decided not to pursue treatment considering results with Shallie. She lost much of her hair, never was able to ut on wieight and every time she sneezed, it was blood. Like the meds were a blood thinner. She was miserable and I did not want to ut tigger thru that. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: BTW – Re :HYPERTHYROIDISM – my vet told me that RadioCat has a 4-month, ½ price special for radioiodine treatments, starting Nov. 1 – performed at area veterinary clinics on East Coast, check with them if it’s going on in other areas. I’ve had bad experiences with Tapazole/Methimazole….and this would be a lot cheaper in the long run! Have had 3 cats done, and 2 more are getting it done by RadioCat (www.RadioCat.com ) at a super price. My new email address is:atia@gmail.com From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:58 AM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Costco's Kirkland is excellent. Unfortunately, it just went up in price a dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99. It was about $17.59 a couple of weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality cat food. I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away from the ACO's who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats. Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place. Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems. I finally have it under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well known in the rescue community. I got several adoptions through her organization which culled the herd nicely. A couple of my older cats passed on from kidney failure, one from cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who was about 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor. I think it was all due to the stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. Anyway, to straighten out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland because it has the highest fat content of any of the dry foods. Several months and several bags of Kirkland later, one of my cats who was almost bald now has a really nice coat (long fur girl, house feral) and the scabs on her skin are gone. She has put on at least a pound, if not two. The other cats are gaining weight, all except one. He needs a thyroid profile when I get some money. But he's holding his own also. Of course, my fat cats are getting fatter by the minute. But on the whole, I'm very happy with Kirkland. I also use Paws and Claws, which is the brand Tractor Supply feed store puts out. It's quite a bargain although not as fatty as Kirkland but costs $20 for 36 pounds. I only use canned for the cat who has stomatitis. Since Kirkland is smaller pellets than other cat food, he is able to eat it without trouble. I have a membership at Costco through my animal rights organization. There are three of us who do cat rescue and we share the membership fee each year. We are tax exempt, which helps also with the price. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi - can you tell me what Kirkland is? Is it a brand of food? Where do you buy it? From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD. THEY LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT. I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM. i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE. AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month. On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats. Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might throw it up at first. Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day. My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane. The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month. With the price of Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the Kirkland due to fat content. Seems to fill them up better. I used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that). Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison. Stopped buying that also. They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it. One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin. I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur. The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland. I need to widen the doorway for him. I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond
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Kirkland is Costco's store brand name. The Kirkland dry food in the purple bag is very high quality at a low price. (In California, where I am, the Kirkland dry in the purple bag is $18 for 25 pounds. First ingredient is chicken, the second is chicken meal. No byproducts or corn. Best deal out there. They also make a no-grain dry in an orange bag, I think they call it Nature's Domain, that is around $20 for an 18 pound bag. I'd pay for my Costco membership for access to the dry food alone. Do you have a Costco nearby? From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Hi - can you tell me what Kirkland is? Is it a brand of food? Where do you buy it? From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD. THEY LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT. I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM. i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE. AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month. On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats. Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might throw it up at first. Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day. My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane. The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month. With the price of Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the Kirkland due to fat content. Seems to fill them up better. I used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that). Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison. Stopped buying that also. They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it. One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin. I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur. The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland. I need to widen the doorway for him. I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save
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Should have tied a string to the rabbit and dragged it along the floor. They chase and eat anything that moves in my house! If flies had enough protein several of mine could live off them. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 4:09 pm i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD. THEY LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT. I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM. i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE. AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month. On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats. Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might throw it up at first. Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day. My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane. The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month. With the price of Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the Kirkland due to fat content. Seems to fill them up better. I used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that). Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison. Stopped buying that also. They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it. One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin. I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur. The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland. I need to widen the doorway for him. I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Actually, a lot of ferals live on/supplement with insects. We don't have water bugs inside here, but I've seen them around, so the cats must be eating them.(BTW, just read that insects are the healthiest meat humans can eat, as they are low-fat and animal fat is hard on humans.) On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 3:34 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: ** Should have tied a string to the rabbit and dragged it along the floor. They chase and eat anything that moves in my house! If flies had enough protein several of mine could live off them. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 4:09 pm i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD. THEY LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT. I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM. i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE. AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month. On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats. Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might throw it up at first. Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day. My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane. The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month. With the price of Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the Kirkland due to fat content. Seems to fill them up better. I used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that). Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison. Stopped buying that also. They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it. One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin. I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur. The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland. I need to widen the doorway for him. I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake
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Yum! It's lunch time here. So glad I'm a vegetarian and don't have to face a plate of meat after that tidbit of information. But yes, cats do eat the whole animal and I won't get into the things that they have so generously given me after they caught a bird or lizard but they don't eat cows or sheep or pigs or intestines with the crap in them and that's what commercial by-products are. No one is going to empty and wash out intestines before adding them to the heap. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food They do eat by-products when they eat the whole prey, but they are getting all the rest, too, which they don't get with just by-products (where the good stuff has been taken out for human consumption). By-products contain much less nutrition and are often indigestible. Note that cats also get some minerals by eating the dirt that's on the animals. Guess that's why some feral feeders just put the food on the ground. :-) That has always surprised me when people report that their cat doesn't eat the organs, as those (exept for feces-filled intestines) are the most nutritious things in the prey's body, and also (I've read that) the big cats eat the organs first and bury the rest of the body for the next day. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:22 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: While we are on the subject of raw diet, don't they eat some of those things when they catch a mouse, rabbit or squirrel or bird? The only things my guys don't eat are the organs, especially intestines. Other wise, they eat the whole thing. -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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It's even worse than that: http://siriusdog.com/rendering-plants-pet-food.htm And I've heard that at a local plant, the animals weren't even all dead. The tough guy who told me that was crying, so I believe him. On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Yum! It's lunch time here. So glad I'm a vegetarian and don't have to face a plate of meat after that tidbit of information. But yes, cats do eat the whole animal and I won't get into the things that they have so generously given me after they caught a bird or lizard but they don't eat cows or sheep or pigs or intestines with the crap in them and that's what commercial by-products are. No one is going to empty and wash out intestines before adding them to the heap. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2012 4:36 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food They do eat by-products when they eat the whole prey, but they are getting all the rest, too, which they don't get with just by-products (where the good stuff has been taken out for human consumption). By-products contain much less nutrition and are often indigestible. Note that cats also get some minerals by eating the dirt that's on the animals. Guess that's why some feral feeders just put the food on the ground. :-) That has always surprised me when people report that their cat doesn't eat the organs, as those (exept for feces-filled intestines) are the most nutritious things in the prey's body, and also (I've read that) the big cats eat the organs first and bury the rest of the body for the next day. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:22 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: While we are on the subject of raw diet, don't they eat some of those things when they catch a mouse, rabbit or squirrel or bird? The only things my guys don't eat are the organs, especially intestines. Other wise, they eat the whole thing. -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That is especially true of my Harley, he will chase, catch and eat anything that moves. He was chasing a moth one night an it flew to the ceiling. He jumped and hit his head on the ceiling. I didn't see if he caught the moth, I was laughing at him. Had the funniest look on his face. Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, a lot of ferals live on/supplement with insects. We don't have water bugs inside here, but I've seen them around, so the cats must be eating them.(BTW, just read that insects are the healthiest meat humans can eat, as they are low-fat and animal fat is hard on humans.) On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 3:34 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: ** Should have tied a string to the rabbit and dragged it along the floor. They chase and eat anything that moves in my house! If flies had enough protein several of mine could live off them. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 4:09 pm i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD. THEY LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT. I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM. i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE. AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month. On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats. Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might throw it up at first. Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day. My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane. The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month. With the price of Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the Kirkland due to fat content. Seems to fill them up better. I used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that). Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison. Stopped buying that also. They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it. One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin. I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur. The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland. I need to widen the doorway for him. I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org
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I never thought about that! I cry at $100 a month. $1000 would give me heart failure! Will try those cards. Great idea! Susan Hoffman wrote: I spend about $1000 a month with a population that ranges from 25-40, depending on adoptions and new intake. We feed primarily canned but with dry (mostly Kirkland Premium and the no-grain in the orange bag). It's a big chunk of money every month but the cats are happy and healthy. For the past year I've been planning ahead and buying discounted PetSmart gift cards through http://www.giftcardbin.com/ and http://www.cardpool.com/ They also have petco cards but nothing for Costco. Take a look. It really has helped my budget. (I recently combined gift cards discounted by 18% with the PetSmart Friends Family sale discount of 15%, and used a few random coupons. For awhile there I had a lot of cases of friskies stacked up in the living room!) From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Since Homey and Nitnoy, I feed half canned and dry. I also have water fountains and that makes a diffrence in how much they drink. I have to fill up the 2 fountains every morning and afternoon. Each takes 64 ounces. Course Casey spills some. She likes to bat at the water before she drinks. I never thought about how much per day per cat, just feed them. I usually give about 1/4 cup in morning, afternoon and evening of the dry Blue Buffalo and 1 can divided by 7. I mix the can with 2 cans of hot water. The heat makes it smell more and they always drink the liquid and later on eat the meat. Kathryn Hargreaves wrote: I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans wrote:Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space.Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hey Susan, where do you get PetsMart discounted gift cards. I have never seen them. Is this one of those online places or eBay or where? Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I spend about $1000 a month with a population that ranges from 25-40, depending on adoptions and new intake. We feed primarily canned but with dry (mostly Kirkland Premium and the no-grain in the orange bag). It's a big chunk of money every month but the cats are happy and healthy. For the past year I've been planning ahead and buying discounted PetSmart gift cards through http://www.giftcardbin.com/ and http://www.cardpool.com/ They also have petco cards but nothing for Costco. Take a look. It really has helped my budget. (I recently combined gift cards discounted by 18% with the PetSmart Friends Family sale discount of 15%, and used a few random coupons. For awhile there I had a lot of cases of friskies stacked up in the living room!) From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Since Homey and Nitnoy, I feed half canned and dry. I also have water fountains and that makes a diffrence in how much they drink. I have to fill up the 2 fountains every morning and afternoon. Each takes 64 ounces. Course Casey spills some. She likes to bat at the water before she drinks. I never thought about how much per day per cat, just feed them. I usually give about 1/4 cup in morning, afternoon and evening of the dry Blue Buffalo and 1 can divided by 7. I mix the can with 2 cans of hot water. The heat makes it smell more and they always drink the liquid and later on eat the meat. Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo
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I spend half again that much.However, it's not a numbers game, it's what you can handle. I know of someone who has 40 colonies in three cities. She gets up at 2:30 a.m. each morning to do half each day, and then goes to work full time. (BTW, she spends $1000/month on mostly kibble.) Do you have pet food banks near you? You can also contact pet food stores to see if they will give you outdated food. Even if the cans are dented, they are OK, as they have a protective lining. On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:13 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I never thought about that! I cry at $100 a month. $1000 would give me heart failure! Will try those cards. Great idea! Susan Hoffman wrote: I spend about $1000 a month with a population that ranges from 25-40, depending on adoptions and new intake. Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I'm not quite sure how you arrived at the $9/day, at least not based on what I said. It seems too low. Yes, transition to raw is sometimes a slow one, at least for some cats. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month. On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats. Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might throw it up at first. Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day. My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane. The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month. With the price of Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the Kirkland due to fat content. Seems to fill them up better. I used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that). Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison. Stopped buying that also. They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it. One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin. I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur. The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland. I need to widen the doorway for him. I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.comwrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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This is why my check register and my bank account never balance. You're right. It's more like $24 a day. Back to the 36 pounds of corn meal and by-product powder in a bag. Incidentally, a by-product can be anything that is not the main product of what is being produced. So a by-product of meat production can be animal poop, hair, bone, hoofs, and other unmentionables. It's usually intestines and organs that humans would not consider eating. The exception is cow hooves. Gelatin is made from cow hooves. I guess Jello sounds more appetizing than Hoofo. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I'm not quite sure how you arrived at the $9/day, at least not based on what I said. It seems too low. Yes, transition to raw is sometimes a slow one, at least for some cats. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month. On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats. Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might throw it up at first. Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day. My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane. The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month. With the price of Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the Kirkland due to fat content. Seems to fill them up better. I used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that). Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison. Stopped buying that also. They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it. One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin. I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur. The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland. I need to widen the doorway for him. I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform
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i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD. THEY LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT. I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM. i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE. AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month. On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats. Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might throw it up at first. Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day. My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane. The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month. With the price of Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the Kirkland due to fat content. Seems to fill them up better. I used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that). Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison. Stopped buying that also. They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it. One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin. I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur. The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland. I need to widen the doorway for him. I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list
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While we are on the subject of raw diet, don't they eat some of those things when they catch a mouse, rabbit or squirrel or bird? The only things my guys don't eat are the organs, especially intestines. Other wise, they eat the whole thing. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: This is why my check register and my bank account never balance. You're right. It's more like $24 a day. Back to the 36 pounds of corn meal and by-product powder in a bag. Incidentally, a by-product can be anything that is not the main product of what is being produced. So a by-product of meat production can be animal poop, hair, bone, hoofs, and other unmentionables. It's usually intestines and organs that humans would not consider eating. The exception is cow hooves. Gelatin is made from cow hooves. I guess Jello sounds more appetizing than Hoofo. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I'm not quite sure how you arrived at the $9/day, at least not based on what I said. It seems too low. Yes, transition to raw is sometimes a slow one, at least for some cats. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month. On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats. Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might throw it up at first. Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day. My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane. The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month. With the price of Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the Kirkland due to fat content. Seems to fill them up better. I used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that). Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison. Stopped buying that also. They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it. One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin. I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur. The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland. I need to widen the doorway for him. I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact
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I tried raw with my 15 year old calico a few years ago. She wouldn't touch it, wanted me to fry it up in some butter first. From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD. THEY LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT. I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM. i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE. AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month. On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats. Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might throw it up at first. Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day. My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane. The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month. With the price of Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the Kirkland due to fat content. Seems to fill them up better. I used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that). Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison. Stopped buying that also. They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it. One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin. I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur. The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland. I need to widen the doorway for him. I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org/ More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis
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Remember, rabbits don't produce Taurine the way cats don't, so if you feed rabbits again, add Taurine. Cats died in studies where they were only fed rabbit. I have forgotten to get meat out of the freezer, but put it in a plastic bag and float it in cold water. That defrosts it really quickly. That's a tip I got from Harmony Farms. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:09 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD. THEY LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT. I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM. i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE. AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY. -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
Sounds like a girl after my own heart ;) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:28:35 -0700 From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I tried raw with my 15 year old calico a few years ago. She wouldn't touch it, wanted me to fry it up in some butter first. From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD. THEY LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT. I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM. i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE. AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month. On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats. Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might throw it up at first. Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day. My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane. The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month. With the price of Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the Kirkland due to fat content. Seems to fill them up better. I used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that). Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison. Stopped buying that also. They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it. One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin. I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur. The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland. I need to widen the doorway for him. I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org/ More fun reading: http
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
They do eat by-products when they eat the whole prey, but they are getting all the rest, too, which they don't get with just by-products (where the good stuff has been taken out for human consumption). By-products contain much less nutrition and are often indigestible. Note that cats also get some minerals by eating the dirt that's on the animals. Guess that's why some feral feeders just put the food on the ground. :-) That has always surprised me when people report that their cat doesn't eat the organs, as those (exept for feces-filled intestines) are the most nutritious things in the prey's body, and also (I've read that) the big cats eat the organs first and bury the rest of the body for the next day. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:22 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: While we are on the subject of raw diet, don't they eat some of those things when they catch a mouse, rabbit or squirrel or bird? The only things my guys don't eat are the organs, especially intestines. Other wise, they eat the whole thing. -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
Yes, searing the raw meat is a good way to get the smell factor up. I had one cat that took six months to get off kibble and onto raw. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.comwrote: I tried raw with my 15 year old calico a few years ago. She wouldn't touch it, wanted me to fry it up in some butter first. -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too!___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
We went the good food route and were feeding everyone Blue for a long time and everyone kept throwing up (A LOT) so we went back to Purina Complete and everyone seems happy, there is no more throwing up and they are healthy. Our vet said some cats cannot tolerate the high fat and protein in some of the holistic brands and considering it was $40 a bag, I am A OK with that ;) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:06:37 -0700 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
ME TOO! I only have 7 and their food and litter costs over $100.00 per month. Vet bills are something else. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
Since Homey and Nitnoy, I feed half canned and dry. I also have water fountains and that makes a diffrence in how much they drink. I have to fill up the 2 fountains every morning and afternoon. Each takes 64 ounces. Course Casey spills some. She likes to bat at the water before she drinks. I never thought about how much per day per cat, just feed them. I usually give about 1/4 cup in morning, afternoon and evening of the dry Blue Buffalo and 1 can divided by 7. I mix the can with 2 cans of hot water. The heat makes it smell more and they always drink the liquid and later on eat the meat. Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
Muyltiply that by 10 + - Natalie -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food ME TOO! I only have 7 and their food and litter costs over $100.00 per month. Vet bills are something else. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
I spend about $1000 a month with a population that ranges from 25-40, depending on adoptions and new intake. We feed primarily canned but with dry (mostly Kirkland Premium and the no-grain in the orange bag). It's a big chunk of money every month but the cats are happy and healthy. For the past year I've been planning ahead and buying discounted PetSmart gift cards through http://www.giftcardbin.com/ and http://www.cardpool.com/ They also have petco cards but nothing for Costco. Take a look. It really has helped my budget. (I recently combined gift cards discounted by 18% with the PetSmart Friends Family sale discount of 15%, and used a few random coupons. For awhile there I had a lot of cases of friskies stacked up in the living room!) From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Since Homey and Nitnoy, I feed half canned and dry. I also have water fountains and that makes a diffrence in how much they drink. I have to fill up the 2 fountains every morning and afternoon. Each takes 64 ounces. Course Casey spills some. She likes to bat at the water before she drinks. I never thought about how much per day per cat, just feed them. I usually give about 1/4 cup in morning, afternoon and evening of the dry Blue Buffalo and 1 can divided by 7. I mix the can with 2 cans of hot water. The heat makes it smell more and they always drink the liquid and later on eat the meat. Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month. On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats. Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might throw it up at first. Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day. My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane. The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month. With the price of Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the Kirkland due to fat content. Seems to fill them up better. I used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that). Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison. Stopped buying that also. They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it. One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin. I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur. The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland. I need to widen the doorway for him. I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of food. Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
I have 24 cats total... 14 at home and 10 in my shelter/sanctuary. Plus I feed a feral colony. I use Purina One which is moderately priced. About $23.00 for a 16 pound bag at Walmart. I spend about $150.00 to $200. a week on cat food and litter and it is infuriating how they keep cutting the size of the bags! Every few months there is less in the bag. My cats also get canned Friskies and Fancy Feast or Sheba for my special needs cats. Lorrie On 10-11, Lee Evans wrote: Oh, @#$%!!!. The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be $16.99. Then it went up a year later to $17.59. Well, I bought two 20 lb. bags a week and a half ago. This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!! It went up $1.49 in about a week. This is robbery. I'm so depressed. The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20 for a 36 pound bag. Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online. Sigh. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
