Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
Congratulations on our new additions! I'm sure Murphy sent them your way :) I am so drawn to black kitties. I just lost mine this morning from complications from Stomatitis. It seems many times they have realized they need super personalities to overcome the black kitty syndrome. I have had adopters come to our shelter & say they did not want to look at any black cats & then leave with a black cat because their personalities were just what they were looking for. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Alice Flowers wrote: From: Alice Flowers Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 8:55 PM Well, here we go into the fray!! After losing 5 FeLV+ boys in the past 1 1/2 years and suffering the worst heartache and financial strain-we were down to just Rosie-littermate to 4 of the boys who passed first, a month apart, all by the time they were a year old. We just lost Murphy the end of October, he was 2 1/2, and our big, elderly Aussie on Nov 6. We went to Petsmart to get some dog food and a local rescue had their adoptable kitties there. I had already asked the SPCA, been honest with Rosie's FeLV+ status-they said no kitty for me. I fell in love with 2 of the boys there and had picked one out-a semi long haired lilac colored kitty. He was so cuddly and also played tough with the other kittens-he was about 5 months old and fully vaccinated for the regular stuff and neutered. I asked them to consult their vet about letting me adopt-they did and she said no problem!! They kept him an extra month and vaccinated him twice for FeLV. He had already tested negative for it. So "Miso" has been home for a week now and our home is active again-Rosie is playing-they chase each other all over the house! Oh-Miso had been a feral baby-and had a badly infected eye which had to be removed-but he isn't hampered at all by it!! He is 100 mph all over the place and up the cat trees! When we went to pick him up, I visited the first kitty and he wants to live with us also-so we adopted him too-he's a solid black, compact kitty-mellow purr machine, also about 6 months old-the rescue people were so happy-he'd been with them for a long time-black kitty syndrome, I guess. But I had gravitated to him first because my lap kitty that passed 2nd was Jack-a solid black boy who insisted on cuddling with me as soon as I got home every day and I missed him so much. So in a month, he will be coming home to our kitty disneyland-with a living room full of cat towers and pop tents, ball toys in the tracks and tons of kitty toys! I can't wait. But I think it helps to get older kittens who have already tested negative and then vaccinate-it may not be foolproof, but we are trying. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
WTG Alice!! Sounds like Miso and your new black kitten have a wonderful new home. As someone who does TNR and is fostering 3 black kittens I thank you for giving these boys a forever home. Sharyl --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Alice Flowers wrote: > From: Alice Flowers > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 8:55 PM > Well, here we go into the fray!! > After losing 5 FeLV+ boys in the past 1 1/2 > years and suffering the worst heartache and financial > strain-we were down to > just Rosie-littermate to 4 of the boys who passed first, a > month apart, all by > the time they were a year old. We just lost Murphy the end > of October, he was 2 > 1/2, and our big, elderly Aussie on Nov 6. We went to > Petsmart to get some dog > food and a local rescue had their adoptable kitties there. > I had already asked > the SPCA, been honest with Rosie's FeLV+ status-they said > no kitty for me. I > fell in love with 2 of the boys there and had picked one > out-a semi long haired > lilac colored kitty. He was so cuddly and also played tough > with the other > kittens-he was about 5 months old and fully vaccinated for > the regular stuff and > neutered. I asked them to consult their vet about letting > me adopt-they did and > she said no problem!! They kept him an extra month and > vaccinated him twice for > FeLV. He had already tested negative for it. So "Miso" has > been home for a week > now and our home is active again-Rosie is playing-they > chase each other all over > the house! Oh-Miso had been a feral baby-and had a badly > infected eye which had > to be removed-but he isn't hampered at all by it!! He is > 100 mph all over the > place and up the cat trees! When we went to pick him up, I > visited the first > kitty and he wants to live with us also-so we adopted him > too-he's a solid > black, compact kitty-mellow purr machine, also about 6 > months old-the rescue > people were so happy-he'd been with them for a long > time-black kitty syndrome, I > guess. But I had gravitated to him first because my lap > kitty that passed 2nd > was Jack-a solid black boy who insisted on cuddling with me > as soon as I got > home every day and I missed him so much. So in a month, he > will be coming home > to our kitty disneyland-with a living room full of cat > towers and pop tents, > ball toys in the tracks and tons of kitty toys! I can't > wait. But I think it > helps to get older kittens who have already tested negative > and then > vaccinate-it may not be foolproof, but we are trying. > Alice > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
Well, here we go into the fray!! After losing 5 FeLV+ boys in the past 1 1/2 years and suffering the worst heartache and financial strain-we were down to just Rosie-littermate to 4 of the boys who passed first, a month apart, all by the time they were a year old. We just lost Murphy the end of October, he was 2 1/2, and our big, elderly Aussie on Nov 6. We went to Petsmart to get some dog food and a local rescue had their adoptable kitties there. I had already asked the SPCA, been honest with Rosie's FeLV+ status-they said no kitty for me. I fell in love with 2 of the boys there and had picked one out-a semi long haired lilac colored kitty. He was so cuddly and also played tough with the other kittens-he was about 5 months old and fully vaccinated for the regular stuff and neutered. I asked them to consult their vet about letting me adopt-they did and she said no problem!! They kept him an extra month and vaccinated him twice for FeLV. He had already tested negative for it. So "Miso" has been home for a week now and our home is active again-Rosie is playing-they chase each other all over the house! Oh-Miso had been a feral baby-and had a badly infected eye which had to be removed-but he isn't hampered at all by it!! He is 100 mph all over the place and up the cat trees! When we went to pick him up, I visited the first kitty and he wants to live with us also-so we adopted him too-he's a solid black, compact kitty-mellow purr machine, also about 6 months old-the rescue people were so happy-he'd been with them for a long time-black kitty syndrome, I guess. But I had gravitated to him first because my lap kitty that passed 2nd was Jack-a solid black boy who insisted on cuddling with me as soon as I got home every day and I missed him so much. So in a month, he will be coming home to our kitty disneyland-with a living room full of cat towers and pop tents, ball toys in the tracks and tons of kitty toys! I can't wait. But I think it helps to get older kittens who have already tested negative and then vaccinate-it may not be foolproof, but we are trying. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have read in holistic reviews that since rabies is required by law, and you take a chance on vaccinating or not. However, the FVRCP given to kittens, then again, and then a year later (new protocol says every 3 yrs), however, vets still do it yearly because they make money on them. After the initial series for kittens, FVRCP technically should last a lifetimeis anyone listening? NO! It's a money maker. If I didn't operate a rescue group, with cats not going out except in safe outdoor enclosures, I would not vaccinate every year, especially not any cat with FIV/FeLV! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:01 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats The other thing is that among adult cats with healthy immune systems, it may not matter whether they're vaccinated or not. I'm of the camp that thinks it doesn't matter. I've seen articles about this but sorry don't have a reference right now - that healthy adult cats are going to throw the virus off whether they're vaccinated or not. Gloria On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: > Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback. It is > definitely helpful > and encouraging. For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is > Magic and she > is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis. I have > three other > cats. Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they > were > kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter. > My biggest > concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2. She has only > received her rabies > shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to > her vaccines > when she was a kitten. Since she is an indoor cat, the vet > recommended against > further vaccines many years ago. > > The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after > vaccinating > also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as > easily from cat > to cat as we might be led to believe. She told me that it generally > takes > prolonged consistent contact to be passed. My FELV+ kitten is > currently > separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned > about > accidental exposure to my negative cats. She also emphasized that > it does not > survive long in normal household conditions. > > I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or > Friday. My > husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if > possible. I'm still > on the fence. > > Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective. > It definitely > helps. > > Thanks, > Stephanie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
The other thing is that among adult cats with healthy immune systems, it may not matter whether they're vaccinated or not. I'm of the camp that thinks it doesn't matter. I've seen articles about this but sorry don't have a reference right now - that healthy adult cats are going to throw the virus off whether they're vaccinated or not. Gloria On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback. It is definitely helpful and encouraging. For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is Magic and she is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis. I have three other cats. Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they were kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter. My biggest concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2. She has only received her rabies shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to her vaccines when she was a kitten. Since she is an indoor cat, the vet recommended against further vaccines many years ago. The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after vaccinating also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as easily from cat to cat as we might be led to believe. She told me that it generally takes prolonged consistent contact to be passed. My FELV+ kitten is currently separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned about accidental exposure to my negative cats. She also emphasized that it does not survive long in normal household conditions. I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or Friday. My husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if possible. I'm still on the fence. Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective. It definitely helps. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
The other thing is that among adult cats with healthy immune systems, it may not matter whether they're vaccinated or not. I'm of the camp that thinks it doesn't matter. I've seen articles about this but sorry don't have a reference right now - that healthy adult cats are going to throw the virus off whether they're vaccinated or not. Gloria On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback. It is definitely helpful and encouraging. For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is Magic and she is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis. I have three other cats. Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they were kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter. My biggest concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2. She has only received her rabies shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to her vaccines when she was a kitten. Since she is an indoor cat, the vet recommended against further vaccines many years ago. The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after vaccinating also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as easily from cat to cat as we might be led to believe. She told me that it generally takes prolonged consistent contact to be passed. My FELV+ kitten is currently separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned about accidental exposure to my negative cats. She also emphasized that it does not survive long in normal household conditions. I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or Friday. My husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if possible. I'm still on the fence. Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective. It definitely helps. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
Sue, my brother and I both have had FELV+ cats that lived to be 17 -- and this was "back in the day" before the current treatments were available... -Original Message- From: Sander, Sue [mailto:sue.san...@ssa.gov] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years. Does anyone else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life? If so, please tell me. I want to have hope. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback. It is definitely helpful and encouraging. For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is Magic and she is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis. I have three other cats. Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they were kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter. My biggest concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2. She has only received her rabies shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to her vaccines when she was a kitten. Since she is an indoor cat, the vet recommended against further vaccines many years ago. The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after vaccinating also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as easily from cat to cat as we might be led to believe. She told me that it generally takes prolonged consistent contact to be passed. My FELV+ kitten is currently separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned about accidental exposure to my negative cats. She also emphasized that it does not survive long in normal household conditions. I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or Friday. My husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if possible. I'm still on the fence. Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective. It definitely helps. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Our kitty Scampi lived to be 13 years old with his FeLV. He was never sick in all the years we took care of him. He only became ill about 2 weeks prior to his passing away but even then he still loved to snooze in the sun whenever he could. There is always hope, sometimes it's just harder to find. Brenda > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:58 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats > > It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years. Does anyone > else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life? If so, please tell me. I > want to have hope. > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Stephanie, as others have already said it is a very personal decision. IMO a lot depends on the ages of your negative cats. If they are adults and vaccinated with the one month booster I'd have no issues with mixing. Over the last 4 yrs I have rescued 10 FeLV+ kittens. My negative cats were adults and current on their vaccine. They played together, ate together and drank from the same water bowels with no problems. >From what I could tell the kittens all got FeLV from their Mommas. I lost the >last ones this summer. They were 4 yrs old. I am now fostering 6 kittens. Since kittens are more susceptible I will not take in any positive kitties. We each do what is best for our own situation. What is important is to love them and provide a stress free environment for these special angels. Sharyl --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: > From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:01 PM > Hi Everyone, > > I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My > husband and I recently > took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our > yard and on our > porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV > negative cats for six > weeks now and love her dearly. > > At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested > positive on two different > snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA > test. Magic is about > five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, > growing and gaining > weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, > she lives in our > master bedroom separated from our other cats. > > One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to > integrate her with > our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did > tell me that the vaccine > isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. > Right now, I do not feel > like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to > expose my FELV negative to > cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to > her. However, I thought I > would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their > experience has been. The > vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see > and I am waiting for my > regular vet to come back to work later this week. > > Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is > currently living in > our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not > an ideal set-up for > us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle > with what is fair for > her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her > space is limited or to > find her a home where she can have more space and possibly > time with her > owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we > still vaccinate our > other cats as a precaution? > > Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these > issues would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Stephanie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
That is on my checks too! happiness is being owned by cats ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Got my Tucson as a 6 week old kitten in 5/98 and she's still here, a chunky 17 lbs! Brought my Romeo in 2/04 (stray I was feeding) & he was estimated to be 4-5 at the time. He died from lymphoma last fall & was never sick until the last 2 weeks of his life. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years. Does anyone else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life? If so, please tell me. I want to have hope. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and none of them ever became positive. He was 5 months old when I found him and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate after I discovered that. He lived with his housemates for over 10 years, they were all vaccinated. They slept, ate, played, groomed and on occasion had spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious but there was blood drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever became positive in those 10 years. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My 3 neg cat have lived with Tucson, my pos cat, for most their lives and she is 12 1/2 years old. I also had another pos cat, Romeo, who I brought in 2004 (adult cat) & until his death last year, they all lived together. They share dishes, boxes, groom each other, occasionally nip each other, sleep together and none of my neg have ever turned positive. I personally think that FELV is not as contagious as some folks make it out to be. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats Hi Everyone, I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My husband and I recently took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for six weeks now and love her dearly. At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two different snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. Magic is about five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, she lives in our master bedroom separated from our other cats. One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her with our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did tell me that the vaccine isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. Right now, I do not feel like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative to cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. However, I thought I would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been. The vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for my regular vet to come back to work later this week. Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living in our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle with what is fair for her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or to find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our other cats as a precaution? Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
I brought a very young stray kitten into my home at about 6 weeks. His initial test was negative and he was vaccinated even though he was a bit too young for it. I am in Japan and they have very different beliefs. (Their first vaccine is a 5 in one and includes it.) Anyway, I kept the kitten separate from my positive cat for about a week. They continued to have separate bowls and litter pans and the kitten hid most of the time. My vet believed that prolonged exposure was necessary and after vaccination he should be OK. 4 weeks later, he went to get his booster and retested a very faint positive. My Fuji, another stray who also tested negative initially was diagnosed when she was one year old. I do not believe she got it from exposure as she stayed inside until she was 8 months old. Then her outside time was extremely limited. She did not have prolonged exposure to any other cats and did not get into any fights. It is my belief she got it from her mom and simply suppressed it until it came out later in life. She was pretty sickly when we got her and we managed to almost entirely suppress her secondary virus issue. To make a very long story even longer, I actually believe that the kitten was probably also from a positive mother. Here in Japan, people buy pets from shops at a very high price! Strays tend to be very common and are very sickly. It is possible they pay so much for their pets in order to get healthy ones. While I could blame myself for making the baby sick, I try not to. I know that as far as love, affection and vet care he is better off than he would have been with another family. His mom and sister are still lose and homeless. All of this being said, everything that I read indicated that older cats tend to have a natural immunity. If your other cats are older and you vaccinate them, it seems as though they would be OK. The bottom line is, you have to make your own decision and then be prepared to deal with the consequences. We all love our little VooDoo kitten to pieces and he loves us right back. He will have the best and longest life he can possibly have! I do not regret for one minute taking him in, even as he sits in my lap with a terrible stuffed up nose and sneezing. He has been to the vet twice and everything is being done to get him healthy! You will get some very strong opinions on this one and most will actually be positive. You do what is best for you:) Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo On Dec 7, 2010, at 4:01 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My husband and I > recently > took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our > porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for > six > weeks now and love her dearly. > > At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two > different > snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. Magic is > about > five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining > weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, she lives in our > master bedroom separated from our other cats. > > One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her > with > our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did tell me that the > vaccine > isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. Right now, I do not > feel > like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative > to > cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. However, I > thought I > would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been. > The > vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for > my > regular vet to come back to work later this week. > > Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living > in > our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for > us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle with what is fair > for > her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or > to > find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her > owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our > other cats as a precaution? > > Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be > greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Stephanie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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"happiness is being owned by cats ..." Amen! - Original Message - From: "Sander, Sue" To: Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years. Does anyone else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life? If so, please tell me. I want to have hope. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and none of them ever became positive. He was 5 months old when I found him and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate after I discovered that. He lived with his housemates for over 10 years, they were all vaccinated. They slept, ate, played, groomed and on occasion had spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious but there was blood drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever became positive in those 10 years. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years. Does anyone else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life? If so, please tell me. I want to have hope. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and none of them ever became positive. He was 5 months old when I found him and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate after I discovered that. He lived with his housemates for over 10 years, they were all vaccinated. They slept, ate, played, groomed and on occasion had spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious but there was blood drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever became positive in those 10 years. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and none of them ever became positive. He was 5 months old when I found him and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate after I discovered that. He lived with his housemates for over 10 years, they were all vaccinated. They slept, ate, played, groomed and on occasion had spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious but there was blood drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever became positive in those 10 years. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi, my experience is that very young kittens don't live long. But, other than that my cats are vaccinated, I have a few postive cats. I have water drinking fountains, and they are all together.Your kitten is strong, I think you should let her/him out with your other cats.Cathy --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:01 PM Hi Everyone, I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My husband and I recently took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for six weeks now and love her dearly. At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two different snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. Magic is about five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, she lives in our master bedroom separated from our other cats. One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her with our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did tell me that the vaccine isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. Right now, I do not feel like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative to cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. However, I thought I would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been. The vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for my regular vet to come back to work later this week. Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living in our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle with what is fair for her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or to find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our other cats as a precaution? Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Stephanie, I've just joined this group today so I'm not sure if I should be responding to this and I'm sure others may have varying opinions on this topic but for me and for my own cats, we allow our FeLV +ve kitty to interact with our other cats. She is not isolated at all nor did we isolate our previous FeLV +ve cat from the others. The others are vaccinated and we have 12 cats all together. They were all strays, some were feral and we try to provide them all with the best possible life that we can. I think the contagious aspect of FeLV is a bit over blown, although obviously not a disease that you want to take lightly. I've read differing views on how contagious it is. I've read that it is really only a concern if cats are fighting or engaging in mating behavior. I've also read that the virus is shed through saliva so even sharing the same water bowl can be a danger to the cats who are not FeLV. So I think you can find both ends of the spectrum in whatever you read. As with anything you should do what you feel is right, keeping in mind that not many people will want to take on a cat who is FeLV +ve so finding your new one a new home may not be that easy. Our previous cat who was FeLV positive lived with us for 6 years. He was feral so we cared for him while he lived outside for 7 years. One day he decided to come inside and he never left. We didn't have any problems with him spreading anything to the other cats and we're really not all that concerned about our newest kitty Eden spreading anything around. She loves the other cats and has great fun playing with two of our younger ones, who were feral alley kittens. I think it's a very personal choice but whatever you decided to do just know that we all do what we feel is right for our own pets and for our individual situations and there are no wrong choices when they are made with love and compassion. Brenda > Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:01:24 -0800 > From: steph.she...@yahoo.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats > > Hi Everyone, > > I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My husband and I > recently > took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our > porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for > six > weeks now and love her dearly. > > At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two > different > snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. Magic is > about > five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining > weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, she lives in our > master bedroom separated from our other cats. > > One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her > with > our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did tell me that the > vaccine > isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. Right now, I do not > feel > like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative > to > cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. However, I > thought I > would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been. > The > vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for > my > regular vet to come back to work later this week. > > Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living > in > our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for > us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle with what is fair > for > her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or > to > find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her > owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our > other cats as a precaution? > > Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be > greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Stephanie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I'm writing this on my phone so limited on what I can write. But everyone of course follows their own heart on this. I've been mixing mine for a few years As others do with no problem. I think they hype up the contagion something terrible. I just don't think it that contagious. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:01 PM, "Stephanie \(Merkel\) Sherry" wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My husband and I > recently > took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our > porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for > six > weeks now and love her dearly. > > At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two > different > snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. Magic is > about > five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining > weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, she lives in our > master bedroom separated from our other cats. > > One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her > with > our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did tell me that the > vaccine > isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. Right now, I do not > feel > like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative > to > cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. However, I > thought I > would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been. > The > vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for > my > regular vet to come back to work later this week. > > Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living > in > our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for > us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle with what is fair > for > her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or > to > find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her > owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our > other cats as a precaution? > > Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be > greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Stephanie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
Hi Everyone, I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV. My husband and I recently took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our porch. We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for six weeks now and love her dearly. At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two different snap tests. She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. Magic is about five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl. For now, she lives in our master bedroom separated from our other cats. One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her with our other cats if we had them all vaccinated. She did tell me that the vaccine isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. Right now, I do not feel like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative to cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. However, I thought I would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been. The vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for my regular vet to come back to work later this week. Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living in our bedroom. She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for us, it is something we could manage long term. I struggle with what is fair for her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or to find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her owners. If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our other cats as a precaution? Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
