Hi Gary,
Yep, am on both CRF lists ... He's been getting fluids for about 3
1/2 years now, gets binders, potassium, heart meds and all kinds of
other goodies. He has been doing fairly well until the last 4 or 5
months, he has lost all muscle mass in both back legs and is starting to
...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 1:33 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Hi Gary,
Yep, am on both CRF lists ... He's been getting fluids for about 3
1/2 years now, gets binders, potassium, heart meds
.
Gary
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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Gary are their side effects to the Acemannan
, 2009 11:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Gary,
I got the 1ml 2000 IU and Fred weighs 7lb 2oz. I am using a insulin
syringe that is 1/2 cc and was told to give Fred .15 or on the 15 line
on the syringe. Does that sound right to you, his HCT
thanks for the report on the acemannan, gary--i've heard really good things
about it, not necessarily in terms of cure, but re: giving cats some
additional months or years of quality time with their humans.
AND there's research behind it.
also thanks, as usual, for making the math of dosages
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 9:02 PM
Sharyl, i missed the lik for
anemia, could you send it again? asking because Lil
Bit did have a kidney infection and her count dropped
1 point
number is 1-877-453-4566.
Gary
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: MaryChristine
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk
Hi Gary,
Fred's anemia is not FeLV related, he is negative, would the
acemannan still be something to consider if the anemia is from
insufficient renal function vs FeLV+ status? He is non regenerative
anemia because of the renal insufficiency.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by
belinda, i can't remember if the archives from a couple of years ago
survived the server issues, but there was a LOT of discussion on the list
just over two years ago, i think, when hideyo was trying to obtain
some--during the period it wasn't available for some administrative problem.
i think
Thanks MC, I wrote to Hideyo and I think she wrote back will have to
double check, I ended up getting the epogen because I needed to get Fred
started on something right away and they could get that in 1 day. He
gets his second shot tomorrow.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats
Gary,
I tried the test with a used syringe and Fred's fur wasn't anywhere
near that wet yesterday so I think I figured out what happened. When I
tented and started giving him the shot, when he felt the epo going in he
started to move and I pushed against him harder to keep him from
keeping all paws crossed.
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MaryChristine
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Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team)
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MC, Belinda and all,
Yes, the archives are intact. They are on a separate
server, so they weren't affected by the issues we had
back in July of '08. Belinda, I typed in Acemannan just to
be sure. Here's the url:
http://www.mail-
archive.com/search?q=acemannanl=felvt...@felineleuk
emia.org
I
] On Behalf Of Belinda
Sauro
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Gary,
I got the 1ml 2000 IU and Fred weighs 7lb 2oz. I am using a
insulin
syringe that is 1/2 cc and was told to give Fred .15 or on the 15 line
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Gary,
I tried the test with a used syringe and Fred's fur wasn't anywhere
near that wet yesterday so I think I figured out what happened. When I
tented and started giving him
...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Gary are their side effects to the Acemannan?
I have never heard about it from my vets, although they always seem the
last to know. My cat is Felv
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Gary,
I tried the test with a used syringe and Fred's fur wasn't anywhere
near that wet yesterday so I think I figured out what happened. When I
tented and started giving
prayres for Fred dorlis
Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote:
Thanks MC, I wrote to Hideyo and I think she wrote back will have to
double check, I ended up getting the epogen because I needed to get Fred
started on something right away and they could get that in 1 day. He
melleph...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
From: Iva Lark Emily Seaberg melleph...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:32 AM
A few years ago I had a kitty with
Chronic Renal Failure. Towards the end he was extremely
YOU GOT PROCRIT FOR $300.00. WHERE DO YOU LIVE? I AM IN EASTERN MISSOURI AND
WHEN I HAD TO TAKE IT I PAID $1645.00 FOR 4 - 1MIL VIALS WHICH LASTED ME 4
WEEKS. AND THAT STILL WAS CHEAP THAN GOING TO THE CANCER CLINIC AND PAYING FOR
A DRS. VISIT AND A NURSE TO GIVE IT. THAT CAMETO $500.00
, August 07, 2009 8:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Hi Gary,
How many shots does that vial give you? I'm trying to figure out the
expense of Epogen. My vet quoted me $277 for Procrit and she said it was
almost double that at the other pharmacy
I NEVER HEARDOF WALMART SPECIALITY PHARMACY BEFORE. DORLIS
MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:
well, actually i very vaguely think that i might have been mentioned
years ago in terms of getting fluids, but since i'm not sure, i
wouldn't know where to find where i might have
...@windstream.net
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: MaryChristine
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
I NEVER HEARDOF WALMART SPECIALITY PHARMACY BEFORE. DORLIS
MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:
well, actually i very vaguely think that i might have
Gary,
I got the 1ml 2000 IU and Fred weighs 7lb 2oz. I am using a insulin
syringe that is 1/2 cc and was told to give Fred .15 or on the 15 line
on the syringe. Does that sound right to you, his HCT was 16% on
Tuesday, he got his first shot today and his fur felt wet after, not
much
Dorlis,
Here is the link to the yahoo anemia group.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline_Anemia/
Sharyl
--- On Fri, 10/23/09, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
To: felvtalk
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amy
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Hi Gary,
How many shots does that vial give you? I'm trying
, August 07, 2009 9:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Amy, check on the Anemia board. I believe that fewer shots/wk are required
with the Procrit than the Epogen. In the end I think the cost is pretty
much a wash.
Sharyl
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Gary,
Make sure it has been kept cold or it is worthless. It should be kept
in the fridge and not shaken.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
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you need.
Gary
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Amy
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Hi Gary,
How many shots does
: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Hi Gary,
This makes more sense. I saw you said you gave a dose of 100 units and I
was thrown since my vet told me to dose at 100 units per KG. The price is
actually pretty similar that way because you have 4 doses at $30 or 24 doses
at $240. My vet's quote
gary, is there a link to walmart's specialty pharmacy? i've never
heard of it as an entity before
thanks!
MC
--
Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference
MaryChristine
Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org)
Member, SCAT
well, actually i very vaguely think that i might have been mentioned
years ago in terms of getting fluids, but since i'm not sure, i
wouldn't know where to find where i might have filed it!
MC
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:26 PM, MaryChristinetwelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:
gary, is there a link to
You probably have to live in the boonies of Arkansas to know about
stuff like that, cause you can't get it anywhere else ho ho Gary -
Gloria
On Aug 8, 2009, at 4:26 PM, MaryChristine wrote:
gary, is there a link to walmart's specialty pharmacy? i've never
heard of it as an entity
: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 10:31 PM
PS. His anemia was related to
his positive status. My vet thinks the virus activated
in his bone marrow and that is what brought on the anemia,
he developed pancreatic cancer in the 6 months we
are very interested in your story. Thanks for sharing.
Sounds like Bailey was a very lucky cat to
have you.
Amy
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote:
From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date
for a accurate test result. In the mean
time you can give Super B Complex, B12 and folic acid supplements to help him.
Sharyl
--- On Fri, 8/7/09, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date
but it is not at a critical stage
by any means.
Good Luck whatever you decide to do.
Sharyl
--- On Fri, 8/7/09, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 11:15 AM
So here's my
Hi Amy,
Yes Bailey was getting the epogen ONLY for his anemia that was
related to his FeLV+ status, he did not have CRF. He was not the only
cat my vet used epogen for that was positive, she had been treating
another positive cat for a year that was positive and anemic. I don't
know the
9:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Thanks for the info. I've joined the anemia group and am reading up on it.
Has anybody on this list tried the Epogen for a leuk pos cat that is anemic?
I read a lot about Epogen being very effective for anemia and I
, 2009 3:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Hi Amy,
I am expecting to delivery of the Epogen for one of my FeLV positives
today.
I will let everyone know how it works out.
Gary
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Gary, What do you mean you are expecting a delivery of Epogen. Don't
you need to get this from your vet? I'm new to all of this.
Susan
-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Gary, What do you mean you are expecting a delivery of Epogen. Don't
you need to get this from your vet? I'm new to all
: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Sander, Sue
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Gary, What do you mean you are expecting a delivery
of Epogen. Don't
you need
Amy, check on the Anemia board. I believe that fewer shots/wk are required
with the Procrit than the Epogen. In the end I think the cost is pretty much a
wash.
Sharyl
--- On Fri, 8/7/09, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Gary,
Make sure it has been kept cold or it is worthless. It should be kept
in the fridge and not shaken.
--
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happiness is being owned by cats ...
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Procrit and Epogen are the same thing, one is basically the generic of
the other, where I live the Procrit was $20.00 cheaper, I paid $300.00
for a 6 month supply of Epogen.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
http://bemikitties.com
http://BelindaSauro.com
if I missed anything that you asked.
Hiromi :-)
From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:08:36 -0400
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
hiromi, i'd be very interested in learning about the blood values your
cat showed, what kind of anemia
...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
From: Iva Lark Emily Seaberg melleph...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:32 AM
A few years ago I had a kitty with
Chronic Renal Failure. Towards the end he was extremely
anemic and we
If nothing else is working, by
the way I have heard doxy can take as long as 6 weeks to
show results, but if his HCT is still going down don't know
that I would be thinking that. But as I was saying if
nothing else is working and you are faced with death, my
personally I would try the
I would keep doing what you're doing, 27% isn't horrible. Be sure
and keep up the pet tinic, is he getting folic acid too it isn't in pet
tinic and is needed for building new blood.
I wouldn't panic yet, just keep a close eye on him and think positive.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned
Thanks, joined both of these.
Amy
--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 9:21 AM
Amy. I haven't had any success once they start to
fail
He isn't getting a folic acid supplement but he does get some in his EVO cat
food. I'm almost done with the bottle of Pet-Tinic and then I'm going to try
Nutrived.
Amy
I would keep doing
what you're doing, 27% isn't horrible. Be sure and
keep up the pet tinic, is he getting folic acid
people have had
using it for non-regenerative anemia not due to CRF.
Thanks
Amy
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 6:48 AM
Amy,
Epogen
Great, I think as long as he seems to feel fine and his HCT doesn't
start dropping I would be too concerned yet. All kitties are
individuals and maybe that is a decent HCT for him, wouldn't want it to
get much lower though. Fred's (CRF) HCT has been between 24% and 29%
for the last 3 years
Bailey was on epogen for almost 6 months when he became anemic, it
brought his HCT from a low of 15% back up to 40% within 6 weeks or so.
When he passed he was still on a maintanence dose of epogen once a week
and his HCT was holding at 33%.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
PS. His anemia was related to his positive status. My vet thinks the
virus activated in his bone marrow and that is what brought on the
anemia, he developed pancreatic cancer in the 6 months we were trying to
figure out what was going on. It was obvious something was still wrong
because
Amy. I haven't had any success once they start to fail. Maybe others can help.
There are two yahoo groups that may help with the symptoms.
There is a assist feeding group that can offer support regarding the wt. loss.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/
There is an
Hello Amy :-)
All I know is that Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator by Imulan worked very
well for my FeLV+ cat w/ severe anemia...
http://www.imulan.com/
Hiromi :-D
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:38:44 -0700
From: awilkin...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk]
hiromi, i'd be very interested in learning about the blood values your
cat showed, what kind of anemia it had, what other things you tried,
how long it was on the lcti, etc.
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Maybe That'll Make The Difference
MaryChristine
Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred
If nothing else is working, by the way I have heard doxy can take as
long as 6 weeks to show results, but if his HCT is still going down
don't know that I would be thinking that. But as I was saying if
nothing else is working and you are faced with death, my personally I
would try the
A few years ago I had a kitty with Chronic Renal Failure. Towards the end he
was extremely anemic and we did the Epogen. I'm so glad we did it because it
did buy us some time. I decided to try the Epogen when it became clear he
was not making new blood cells, his anemia became extreme and we
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