Re: [Finale] OT: Historical Musical Instrument Question

2010-12-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sat, December 11, 2010 2:19 pm, Blake Richardson wrote: I've been watching the HBO show Boardwalk Empire lately, which is set in 1920s Prohibition-era Atlantic City, and they've had several scenes set in a dance hall with a band in a reverse orchestra pit (in a balcony up near the rafters

Re: [Finale] OT: Historical Musical Instrument Question

2010-12-11 Thread Barbara Touburg
Blake Richardson wrote: I've been watching the HBO show Boardwalk Empire lately, which is set in 1920s Prohibition-era Atlantic City, and they've had several scenes set in a dance hall with a band in a reverse orchestra pit (in a balcony up near the rafters as opposed to below the stage). One

Re: [Finale] OT: Historical Musical Instrument Question

2010-12-11 Thread Bob Morabito
is this it? http://strohviolin.com/index.php?act=viewProdproductId=35 Bob Morabito On Dec 11, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Blake Richardson wrote: I've been watching the HBO show Boardwalk Empire lately, which is set in 1920s Prohibition-era Atlantic City, and they've had several scenes set in a

Re: [Finale] OT: Historical Musical Instrument Question

2010-12-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi all, Definitely Stroh violins. I heard the Boardwalk Empire MD talk about them on WNYC. Terry Riley's Transylvanian Horn Courtship for Kronos calls for custom-built Stroh instruments (not just violins but Stroh viola and Stroh cello) built for them Walter Kitundu, and tuned a full fifth

Re: [Finale] OT: Historical Musical Instrument Question

2010-12-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Darcy, That's cool info about the Kronos instruments. I haven't been following them in recent years, so I'd like to hear that one. As for loud, yeah, this is the guy in Bruges, and he was loud: http://maltedmedia.com/photos/stroh.jpg I build a cello with a resonator bowl rather than a horn; it

Re: [Finale] OT: Historical Musical Instrument Question

2010-12-11 Thread John Howell
At 2:19 PM -0500 12/11/10, Blake Richardson wrote: I've been watching the HBO show Boardwalk Empire lately, which is set in 1920s Prohibition-era Atlantic City, and they've had several scenes set in a dance hall with a band in a reverse orchestra pit (in a balcony up near the rafters as

Re: [Finale] OT: Historical Musical Instrument Question

2010-12-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Dec 2010 at 15:37, Darcy James Argue wrote: Terry Riley's Transylvanian Horn Courtship for Kronos calls for custom-built Stroh instruments (not just violins but Stroh viola and Stroh cello) built for them Walter Kitundu, and tuned a full fifth lower than the standard instruments. You

{Spam} Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread David H. Bailey
On 11/21/2010 1:43 PM, John Howell wrote: At 7:24 AM -0500 11/21/10, David H. Bailey wrote: I understand the use of clefs to transpose from concert pitch music to the differently keyed transposing instruments, but is there a chart somewhere which does things in reverse? So that looking at a

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread John Howell
At 6:46 AM -0500 11/22/10, David H. Bailey wrote: What I meant by in reverse is that if I'm looking at a written F in an F horn part, I can use the mezzo-soprano clef to get the concert pitch note (Bb). But what if I'm looking at a concert pitch score, how do I figure out what note the F

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread christopher.smith
- Original Message - From: John Howell john.how...@vt.edu Date: Monday, November 22, 2010 1:17 pm Subject: Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts To: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com, finale@shsu.edu At 6:46 AM -0500 11/22/10, David H. Bailey wrote

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread Ryan
with the other clefs that it would slow me down immeasurably. I have nothing but respect for those among you who read them easily! christopher - Original Message - From: John Howell john.how...@vt.edu Date: Monday, November 22, 2010 1:17 pm Subject: Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-22 Thread christopher.smith
- Original Message - From: Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com Date: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:56 pm Subject: Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts To: finale@shsu.edu What method do you use if the horn part doesn't have a key signature? On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: Converting to PDF on a PC

2010-11-21 Thread David H. Bailey
No, it doesn't assault the user with ads. When you select doPDF as the printer driver, the program does its thing and presents you with a dialog box asking where you would like the pdf file saved. In this box is a single ad for another of their products. The only annoying thing I find with

{Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-21 Thread David H. Bailey
I understand the use of clefs to transpose from concert pitch music to the differently keyed transposing instruments, but is there a chart somewhere which does things in reverse? So that looking at a part for F horn, for example, which is printed in the treble clef, what clef would one use to

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-21 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Subject: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:24 PM I understand the use of clefs to transpose from concert pitch music to the differently keyed transposing instruments

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-21 Thread David H. Bailey
or something the like). Or it equals horn in Bb basso (ad 2 flats). Klaus, who will rather transpose than read C clefs --- On Sun, 11/21/10, David H. Baileydhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: From: David H. Baileydhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Subject: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical

Re: [Finale] (OT) ProTools

2010-11-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
And? ProTools is pretty much the standard in a studio Sent from my iSomething On Nov 21, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote: I had an arrangement recorded by a group that laid down tracks prior to the session where I was present. I noticed that the engineer was

Re: [Finale] (OT) ProTools

2010-11-21 Thread Randolph Peters
Richard Huggins wrote: I had an arrangement recorded by a group that laid down tracks prior to the session where I was present. I noticed that the engineer was using PT. And then what happened? -Randolph Peters ___ Finale mailing list

{Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: Darcy Argue in the Globe Mail

2010-11-21 Thread SN jef chippewa
For those of you not familiar with the newspaper, The Globe and Mail is Canada's **national Toronto** paper. interesting but somehow appropriate geographical-political comment... if you ask torontonians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] OT: Darcy Argue

2010-11-21 Thread timothy . price
Perhaps some on the list would enjoy this video of the Secret Society, On Canvas http://video.whyy.org/video/1383585488/ tim On Nov 21, 2010, at 6:26 PM, Randolph Peters wrote: There is a nice article (and video) of Finale List member Darcy Argue in Saturday's Globe and Mail.

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-21 Thread John Howell
At 7:24 AM -0500 11/21/10, David H. Bailey wrote: I understand the use of clefs to transpose from concert pitch music to the differently keyed transposing instruments, but is there a chart somewhere which does things in reverse? So that looking at a part for F horn, for example, which is

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: Converting to PDF on a PC

2010-11-20 Thread Allen Fisher
Hey David-- Looks cool. Does it assault you with ads like PDF 995 did? I may start recommending this to friends and clients. Allen Sent from my iDon'tKnowWhat On 5 Nov, 2010, at 5:26 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: On 11/5/2010 5:41 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 5 Nov 2010 at 14:03, Ryan wrote:

Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-20 Thread Allen Fisher
My trumpet teacher at Ohio State in the early 1990's insisted that all his students learn clefs in order to transpose on sight. Drives all my friends nuts... :) Allen On 6 Nov, 2010, at 1:22 PM, John Howell wrote: As a bonus, once you have learned to use the entire system of movable clefs,

Re: [Finale] OT: Danish Translation

2010-11-16 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
Slutning means ending. I don’t know the music, so I don’t know whether Coda will be right here. English movies used to end with the text: The End. The Danish equivalent is Slut. Some foreigners took offense from that. Klaus --- On Tue, 11/16/10, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ryan

{Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-06 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Florence + Michael wrote: I recently received the conductor's score of Gounod's Faust (Henschelverlag Berlin, 1972). I was surprised to find C-clefs used for the voice parts in a score this recent I'm not surprised to see them in a conductors score, as I've run across others, while

Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-06 Thread John Howell
At 10:14 AM +0100 11/6/10, Florence + Michael wrote: I recently received the conductor's score of Gounod's Faust (Henschelverlag Berlin, 1972). I was surprised to find C-clefs used for the voice parts in a score this recent: all female voices are written in soprano clef and the tenors in

Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Nov 2010 at 10:14, Florence + Michael wrote: I recently received the conductor's score of Gounod's Faust (Henschelverlag Berlin, 1972). I was surprised to find C-clefs used for the voice parts in a score this recent: all female voices are written in soprano clef and the tenors in tenor

Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-06 Thread Florence + Michael
On 6 Nov 2010, at 19:22, John Howell wrote: Gounod is hardly what I'd call a recent composer, since he died in 1910. And that score is undoubtedly a reprint of a much earlier edition. Of course Gounod isn't a recent composer, but that edition is recent and certainly not a reprint of an

Re: [Finale] OT: historical use of C clefs for voice parts

2010-11-06 Thread John Howell
At 10:06 PM +0100 11/6/10, Florence + Michael wrote: Of course Gounod isn't a recent composer, but that edition is recent and certainly not a reprint of an earlier edition. It was completely new in 1972, edited by Fritz Oeser who put back passages that Gounod had cut before the premiere.

Re: [Finale] OT: Converting to PDF on a PC

2010-11-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Nov 2010 at 14:03, Ryan wrote: What's the best way to create a PDF file on a PC? Trying to help a friend, but I'm a Mac user. Looks like he'll have to get a 3rd party program but I'm hoping someone can recommend a good share- or freeware option. The answer depends on the source from

{Spam} Re: [Finale] OT: Converting to PDF on a PC

2010-11-05 Thread David H. Bailey
On 11/5/2010 5:41 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 5 Nov 2010 at 14:03, Ryan wrote: What's the best way to create a PDF file on a PC? Trying to help a friend, but I'm a Mac user. Looks like he'll have to get a 3rd party program but I'm hoping someone can recommend a good share- or freeware

Re: [Finale] OT: Converting to PDF on a PC

2010-11-05 Thread Ryan
Sorry, should have clarified. He wants to create a PDF of a Finale 2011 document. I don't have 2011, so I can't open the file and convert it for him. On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:41 PM, David W. Fenton lists.fin...@dfenton.comwrote: On 5 Nov 2010 at 14:03, Ryan wrote: What's the best way to

Re: [Finale] OT: Converting to PDF on a PC

2010-11-05 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Nov 2010 at 14:54, Ryan wrote: Sorry, should have clarified. He wants to create a PDF of a Finale 2011 document. I don't have 2011, so I can't open the file and convert it for him. I don't see why you think my answer doesn't apply. PDF995 and PDFCreator are still options for Finale. I

RE: [Finale] OT: Converting to PDF on a PC

2010-11-05 Thread Richard Yates
I like Bullzip a lot. http://www.bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php Richard Yates -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 2:04 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] OT: Converting to

Re: [Finale] OT: Converting to PDF on a PC

2010-11-05 Thread Ryan
Thanks for your help. He figured it out. On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Richard Yates rich...@yatesguitar.comwrote: I like Bullzip a lot. http://www.bullzip.com/products/pdf/info.php Richard Yates -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars and a question on organ notation

2010-09-28 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
, 9/27/10, John Howell john.how...@vt.edu wrote: From: John Howell john.how...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars and a question on organ notation To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 7:16 PM At 2:57 AM -0700 9/27/10, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: Visually I

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars and a question on organ notation

2010-09-27 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
reading problems or confusion. The same would go for frequent shifts between treble and bass clefs. What to do? Klaus --- On Fri, 9/24/10, Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars and a question on organ notation

2010-09-27 Thread John Howell
At 2:57 AM -0700 9/27/10, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: Visually I could improve the writing by using alto clef, tenor clef, or treble clef octave down, but that would create reading problems or confusion. The same would go for frequent shifts between treble and bass clefs. What to do?

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars and a question on organ notation

2010-09-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
to do? Klaus --- On Fri, 9/24/10, Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 2:21 AM If you have the full version of Acrobat

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-24 Thread Fiskum, Steve
Thanks for this insight Matthew. I'm always looking for more notation books. I eagerly checked out the sample PDFs ( http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/contents/ ) and was disappointed to see inconsistency. Look at the time signatures images in Size and placing and then look at Placing

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-24 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2010-09-24 17:01, Fiskum, Steve wrote: I eagerly checked out the sample PDFs ( http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/contents/ ) and was disappointed to see inconsistency. Look at the time signatures images in Size and placing and then look at Placing time-signature changes on the same page

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-24 Thread Fiskum, Steve
9/24/10 10:41 AM, Jari Williamsson jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote: It's the left example of the Size and placing that isn't correct, isn't it? The numbers don't fully fill the vertical space. No, those on the left are preferred and the word not between the right and left examples

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-24 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2010-09-24 18:53, Fiskum, Steve wrote: 9/24/10 10:41 AM, Jari Williamssonjari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote: It's the left example of the Size and placing that isn't correct, isn't it? The numbers don't fully fill the vertical space. No, those on the left are preferred and the word

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-24 Thread Howard Weiner
On 24.09.2010 17:01, Fiskum, Steve wrote: I eagerly checked out the sample PDFs ( http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/contents/ ) and was disappointed to see inconsistency. Look at the time signatures images in Size and placing and then look at Placing time-signature changes on the same page

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-24 Thread David H. Bailey
On 9/24/2010 2:42 PM, Howard Weiner wrote: On 24.09.2010 17:01, Fiskum, Steve wrote: I eagerly checked out the sample PDFs ( http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/contents/ ) and was disappointed to see inconsistency. Look at the time signatures images in Size and placing and then look at

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-24 Thread Fiskum, Steve
9/24/10 2:52 PM, Williams, Jim jwilli...@franklincollege.edu wrote: I also like the large amount of cross-referencing in the body of the text to related topics elsewhere in the text. I agree Jim. I really like the cross-referencing. Looks like a nice book to have on the shelves. On Behalf Of

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-23 Thread David McKay
Looks good. I'd be interested to see it compared with Gardner read. Is it more comprehensive? How? David McKay On 23 September 2010 18:25, Bob Morabito bobmorab...@optonline.net wrote: Any thoughts on this? http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/ Behind Bars is the indispensable reference

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-23 Thread Matthew Hindson (gmail)
I have seen this book, both when it was being written, and on a recent trip to the UK. (Faber, who publish this book, are my publishers). Elaine Gould is a super, super fussy editor, which is exactly what is required of course from such a position. This is her labour of love covering about

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-23 Thread David McKay
Thanks Matthew David McKay On 23 September 2010 19:19, Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.comwrote: I have seen this book, both when it was being written, and on a recent trip to the UK. (Faber, who publish this book, are my publishers). Elaine Gould is a super, super fussy editor,

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-23 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 11:19 AM I have seen this book, both when it was being written, and on a recent trip to the UK.  (Faber, who publish this book, are my publishers). Elaine

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-23 Thread Bob Morabito
for immediate delivery if ordered now? (Shipping to Denmark from the UK isn’t much of a delay). Klaus --- On Thu, 9/23/10, Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-23 Thread SN jef chippewa
looks like a good reference for the foundations of notation. 14pp extract available: http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/contents/ By far the best layout is one five-line stave, even if this entails placing notes on one or two ledger lines to create sufficient lines for the required

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-23 Thread Wade KOTTER
There's a pre-publication offer through 31 December 2010: http://www.behindbarsnotation.co.uk/buying/ Wade Kotter On 9/23/2010 at 6:58 AM, in message f3a21784-686d-44ec-a7d3-6372c167a...@optonline.net, Bob Morabito bobmorab...@optonline.net wrote: Behind Bars: The Definitive Guide to Music

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-23 Thread Matthew Hindson (gmail)
Heard back from Faber - the price is a pre-release price, sadly. So it won't be delivered until Jan. Matthew On 23/09/10 7:38 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: One matter didn’t occur clearly to me when reading the site linked to by the OP: Is this book ready for immediate delivery if

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-23 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
information to potential helpers, I see no immediate way to place an order. Klaus --- On Fri, 9/24/10, Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, September 24

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-23 Thread Matthew Hindson (gmail)
an order. Klaus --- On Fri, 9/24/10, Matthew Hindson (gmail)mhindson2...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Hindson (gmail)mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 1:41 AM Heard back from Faber - the price is a pre-release price

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-23 Thread Darcy James Argue
)mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 1:41 AM Heard back from Faber - the price is a pre-release price, sadly. So it won't be delivered until Jan. Matthew On 23/09/10 7:38 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: One matter

Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars

2010-09-23 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Hindson (gmail) mhindson2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Behind Bars To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 2:21 AM If you have the full version of Acrobat, you can run Form Field Recognition on the PDF which allows you to type

Re: [Finale] [OT] new music notation seminars

2010-09-21 Thread Christopher Smith
Wow! Looks like you have it covered. The only thing I see missing is something about talking to composers/ clients. You mentioned a few times with me about how part of your job was education and how hard it was to tread a fine line between pissing off the client and helping him. That is

Re: [Finale] [OT] new music notation seminars

2010-09-21 Thread mmathew1942
http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ Phone and Fax: 503 641 6127 - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:31:43 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] [OT] new music

Re: [Finale] [OT] new music notation seminars

2010-09-21 Thread mmathew1942
://oregonmts.com/mathew/ Phone and Fax: 503 641 6127 - Original Message - From: Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:31:43 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] [OT] new music notation seminars Wow! Looks like you have it covered

Re: [Finale] [OT] new music notation seminars

2010-09-21 Thread SN jef chippewa
The only thing I see missing is something about talking to composers/clients. You mentioned a few times with me about how part of your job was education and how hard it was to tread a fine line between pissing off the client and helping him. That is something I haven't mastered yet, and few

Re: [Finale] [OT] new music notation seminars

2010-09-21 Thread SN jef chippewa
Where and when will the first of these seminars morelia, mexico on 18 november. dates in the future include chicago (pretty much confirmed for spring 2011), winnipeg and montréal (in discussion). once i get through the 1st one i'll look at future possibilities a little more closely.

Re: [Finale] OT: Electronic Keyboards and Organ Samples

2010-07-21 Thread David W. Fenton
So, I'm not getting anywhere on this that's useful. Here's a thread on OrganForum that I started: http://tinyurl.com/32gdbhk = http://www.organforum.com/forums/showthread.php?14300-Creating-an- electronic-portative-organ-for-continuo-in-small-ensembles Does any of that clarify any of the

Re: [Finale] OT: Electronic Keyboards and Organ Samples

2010-07-20 Thread A-NO-NE Music
On 2010/07/18, at 17:43, David W. Fenton wrote: Has anyone mucked about with using high-quality samples of pipe organs with relatively simple keyboards? My viol consort may need a rehearsal instrument while the pipe organ is being rebuilt, and I was wondering if perhaps there are proper

Re: [Finale] OT: Electronic Keyboards and Organ Samples

2010-07-20 Thread David W. Fenton
On 20 Jul 2010 at 2:06, A-NO-NE Music wrote: On 2010/07/18, at 17:43, David W. Fenton wrote: Has anyone mucked about with using high-quality samples of pipe organs with relatively simple keyboards? My viol consort may need a rehearsal instrument while the pipe organ is being

Re: [Finale] OT: Electronic Keyboards and Organ Samples

2010-07-20 Thread John Howell
At 2:06 AM -0400 7/20/10, A-NO-NE Music wrote: In fact it's a consistent problem for us who use amplification. I, too, do EQ my rig before the show every venue, trying to sound my flute as seamless as possible. Yes, when one uses amplification, the amplification itself become part of your

Re: [Finale] OT: Electronic Keyboards and Organ Samples

2010-07-19 Thread David W. Fenton
On 18 Jul 2010 at 23:03, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: I don't have any specific experience with what you're looking for, although I strongly suspect that it does, in fact exist, but that it when you find it, it will be an expensive piece of equipment to purchase. My best suggestions: check with

Re: [Finale] OT: Electronic Keyboards and Organ Samples

2010-07-19 Thread David W. Fenton
On 19 Jul 2010 at 0:20, John Howell wrote: At 11:15 PM -0400 7/18/10, David W. Fenton wrote: I can't quite understand the product space here. It seems that nobody really makes anything at a professional level of quality in both keyboard and sound output. Perhaps around 10 years ago,

Re: [Finale] OT: Electronic Keyboards and Organ Samples

2010-07-18 Thread David W. Fenton
All right, it seems that 5-octave F-to-F keyboards don't exist (people are incredibly stupid, since that gives you a far more usable compass than 5-octave C-to-C). Does anyone know of decent 88-key keyboards with no bells and whistles, that I could load a Hauptwerk sample set into and that has

Re: [Finale] OT: Electronic Keyboards and Organ Samples

2010-07-18 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
David: I don't have any specific experience with what you're looking for, although I strongly suspect that it does, in fact exist, but that it when you find it, it will be an expensive piece of equipment to purchase. My best suggestions: check with the local Allen or Rogers organ dealers,

Re: [Finale] OT: Electronic Keyboards and Organ Samples

2010-07-18 Thread John Howell
At 11:15 PM -0400 7/18/10, David W. Fenton wrote: I can't quite understand the product space here. It seems that nobody really makes anything at a professional level of quality in both keyboard and sound output. Perhaps around 10 years ago, Opera Roanoke did Monteverdi's L'Orfeo. (A very

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-12 Thread Blake Richardson
From: David W. Fenton lists.fin...@dfenton.com Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:11:41 -0400 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music On 10 Jul 2010 at 5:59, dhbailey wrote: my post was quoted by Blake Richardson, who then went

Re: [Finale] OT: Google Search

2010-07-11 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/11/2010 09:29 AM, Nigel Hanley wrote: I receive Google alerts whenever someone searches for my blog, or my name, which is hardly ever, but last night I got one and instead of it being from How do you sign up for alerts? ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] OT: Google Search

2010-07-11 Thread Bob Morabito
Hi Phil-- http://www.google.com/alerts Monitor the Web for interesting new content Google Alerts are email updates of the latest relevant Google results (web, news, etc.) based on your choice of query or topic. Enter the topic you wish to monitor, then click preview to see the type of

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread Blake Richardson
From: John Howell john.how...@vt.edu Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 13:01:44 -0400 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music If there IS a single problem, it's obviously the one we've all been aware of all the time: the progress

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Jul 2010 at 5:59, dhbailey wrote: my post was quoted by Blake Richardson, who then went on the tirade against stupid things done in the name of copyright protection. No, those were done in the name of enforcing performance rights, which is distinctly different from copyright.

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Jul 2010 at 19:42, Blake Richardson wrote: It's this sort of draconian, heavy-handed thuggish approach to copyright that's turning off an entire generation of people from respecting it. Not a single one of your examples has anything at all to do with copyright or copyright enforcement.

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread John Howell
At 1:41 PM -0400 7/11/10, Blake Richardson wrote: From: John Howell john.how...@vt.edu If there IS a single problem, it's obviously the one we've all been aware of all the time: the progress of technology has made new crimes not only possible but really, really EASY! Copyright

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread dhbailey
David W. Fenton wrote: On 10 Jul 2010 at 5:59, dhbailey wrote: my post was quoted by Blake Richardson, who then went on the tirade against stupid things done in the name of copyright protection. No, those were done in the name of enforcing performance rights, which is distinctly different

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread dhbailey
Blake Richardson wrote: [snip] All sorts of scary stuff is happening in Europe under the umbrella of artists' rights. There's a proposal (don't know whether it's made it into law yet) to give sculptors and painters the right of first refusal on sales of their work. Under such a system, if

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: At 1:41 PM -0400 7/11/10, Blake Richardson wrote: From: John Howell john.how...@vt.edu If there IS a single problem, it's obviously the one we've all been aware of all the time: the progress of technology has made new crimes not only possible but really, really EASY!

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread John Howell
At 2:38 PM -0400 7/11/10, dhbailey wrote: David W. Fenton wrote: It's really crucial to maintain the distinction between the two, seems to me, and getting all bent out of shape about the idiots going after the Girl Scouts (ASCAP will surely lose in court if EFF or somebody else steps up to

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Indeed. There is a BIG difference between Criminal and Civil Cases. I think the original poster needs to bone up on this.. On Jul 11, 2010, at 11:45 AM, dhbailey wrote: O.J. was never convicted of anything -- he simply lost a lawsuit as defendant and was forced to pay the penalty that

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
As far as the Nicole Simpson murder, you are correct, but of course O.J. Simpson was convicted of armed robbery, kidnapping, and other felonies on Oct. 3, 2008, and is currently serving a minimum 9-year sentence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O._J._Simpson Cheers, - DJA - WEB:

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-11 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: As far as the Nicole Simpson murder, you are correct, but of course O.J. Simpson was convicted of armed robbery, kidnapping, and other felonies on Oct. 3, 2008, and is currently serving a minimum 9-year sentence. You're correct -- I should have been more specific that

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: From: dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Let's be fair about things here. Yes, there's a problem with people who believe that just because the internet makes it easy, they're entitled to whatever they want without paying. But you also have to take into account the

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
dhbailey wrote: John Howell wrote: From: dhbailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Let's be fair about things here. Yes, there's a problem with people who believe that just because the internet makes it easy, they're entitled to whatever they want without paying. But you also have to take

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread Graeme Gerrard
I am from an older generation, but kids these days have the attitude that the money goes to multinational companies, with only a trickle to the composers and performers, their heroes. My generation bought into the arrangement and that's who passed the laws (same with plant/gene/life ownership).

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
Graeme Gerrard wrote: I am from an older generation, but kids these days have the attitude that the money goes to multinational companies, with only a trickle to the composers and performers, their heroes. My generation bought into the arrangement and that's who passed the laws (same with

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread Nigel Hanley
David, I think that's a very accurate summation of the industry then, and also now. I was surprised to read that most older major league rock bands continue touring not just for the glory of it, but because, for that year, the bulk of their income will come from the tour. The Rollingstones were

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread Cecil Rigby
I'm not trying to pick a fight here, just understand WHY, exactly, is it offensive in any degree that anyone can (having enough money and a willing seller) become a holder of copyrights? The individual artist's rights are NOT abridged just because someone may buy their publisher's

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread Nigel Hanley
Cecil, in many ways I agree with you. Full stop. I 'm equally not trying to pick a fight, but am merely attempting to understand why the original owners of such monumental works of popular music such as the Beatles' library are forced to undergo legal proceedings to retain their work , or

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread John Howell
At 5:59 AM -0400 7/10/10, dhbailey wrote: You misread the quotation attributes, John. I didn't say that at all -- my post was quoted by Blake Richardson, who then went on the tirade against stupid things done in the name of copyright protection. I am most definitely arguing that 2 wrongs

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Nigel Hanley wrote: Cecil, in many ways I agree with you. Full stop. I 'm equally not trying to pick a fight, but am merely attempting to understand why the original owners of such monumental works of popular music such as the Beatles' library are forced to undergo legal proceedings to

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread Blake Richardson
On 7/10/10 1:00 PM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: From: John Howell john.how...@vt.edu Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 20:26:23 -0400 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music From: Blake Richardson btr1

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread John Howell
At 8:22 AM -0400 7/10/10, dhbailey wrote: I have no idea if the situation has improved any these days, but for many years that was very true, often with performers being on the hook to the record labels for a lot of money which was never recouped by the record sales, due in large part to

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread John Howell
No, you didn't miss something Cecil. It's a difference between considering copyrights and patents as property, which can be traded, sold, leased, assigned, rented, or otherwise treated like any other property, and considering them a somehow philosophically belonging to their creators and to

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
Cecil Rigby wrote: I'm not trying to pick a fight here, just understand WHY, exactly, is it offensive in any degree that anyone can (having enough money and a willing seller) become a holder of copyrights? The individual artist's rights are NOT abridged just because someone may buy

Re: [Finale] OT: Copyright and downloadable music

2010-07-10 Thread dhbailey
Nigel Hanley wrote: Cecil, in many ways I agree with you. Full stop. I 'm equally not trying to pick a fight, but am merely attempting to understand why the original owners of such monumental works of popular music such as the Beatles' library are forced to undergo legal proceedings to retain

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