Re: [Finale] Page margins

2007-02-06 Thread Hans Swinnen
You can realise it: either if you like the method inserting a blank page, but thereafter you have to go to Page Layout Redefine pages all pages and delete the blank page; or -and that's what I'm doing yet for years- is go to Options Page Format Score and switch the numbers from right

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-06 Thread Ken Moore
Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I was surprised at how big the MP3 files were for the movements of a piano trio--6 MB each, on the average. I thought the big advantage of MP3 was its compactness. I just compared versions of a couple of my compositions. MP3 is about 1

Re: [Finale] Page margins (add.)

2007-02-06 Thread Hans Swinnen
In addition I have to go deeper: Finale is considering each first page as being on the right side, even when you start numbering at #2, 4, and so on. That's why you should play with the page layout settings. Furthermore you have to redefine all pages after switching the numbers in the

Re: [Finale] OT Floral Dance

2007-02-06 Thread Lawrence David Eden
Thanks, Horace. That was I. At least I have access to the brass band score as arraged by Derek Broadbent. I'm working on getting you a copy. Horace On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 07:36:18 -0500, you wrote: I can't remember who said they had this scoreplease remind me. Larry

Re: [Finale] Drum Set parts redux

2007-02-06 Thread Christopher Smith
On 6-Feb-07, at 12:56 AM, Carl Dershem wrote: Be that as it may, I've never had any complaints from drummers, and when using the standard Finale drum set, the top line gives a round notehead, not an X. Actually, it depends on how you enter it. If you use the default perc map for the

[Finale] OT: Apple Settles Beatles Lawsuit

2007-02-06 Thread Phil Daley
Apple Settles Beatles Lawsuit - Under the agreement, which replaces a 1991 deal, Apple will own all of the trademarks related to the name, and license some of those to Apple Corps, the companies said. By Antone Gonsalves InformationWeek Feb 5, 2007 10:21 AM Apple and the Beatles have

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-06 Thread Thurletta Brown-Gavins
I think I read it is incorporated in the 10.4.8 update. Those of us still using 10.3.9 may have to do it manually, according to a number of Mac newsgroups. Thurletta Brown-Gavins On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 A-NO-NE Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

Re: [Finale] OT: Apple Settles Beatles Lawsuit

2007-02-06 Thread dhbailey
Phil Daley wrote: [snip] We love the Beatles, and it has been painful being at odds with them over these trademarks, Apple chief executive Steve Jobs said. It feels great to resolve this in a positive manner, and in a way that should remove the potential of further disagreements in the future.

Re: [Finale] long URLs

2007-02-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 19:32, Mark D Lew wrote: On Feb 5, 2007, at 10:01 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote: I don't want to get into yet another platform/application war. But Phil's URL was not wrapped by the listserv, because it showed up just fine in my Eudora for Windows. I know that using

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Feb 2007 at 9:34, Ken Moore wrote: Andrew Stiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I was surprised at how big the MP3 files were for the movements of a piano trio--6 MB each, on the average. I thought the big advantage of MP3 was its compactness. I just compared versions of a

Re: [Finale] Music theory

2007-02-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Feb 2007 at 0:57, Will Denayer wrote: We often seem to assume that theory follows practice, because to argue the reverse seems nonsensical, but perhaps the attitude or even the worldview which would give rise to theoretical treatises in the field of music as in many other fields became

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 5 Feb 2007 at 17:56, Carlberg Jones wrote: At 6:46 PM -0500 2/5/07, David W. Fenton wrote: [nothing quoted here] I have my Mac's clock set to automatically sync to Apple's clock server. When it trips over into DST, so will my computer. Or at least I think that's what will

RE: [Finale] Home Editions Of Windows Vista Won't Run On Mac Or LinuxVirtual Machines

2007-02-06 Thread Fisher, Allen
Yep. I agree. I've had nothing but headaches with both Media Center and WinXP HOME. You can't print on a network using HOME and you have to do a bunch of registry wizardry to get Media Center do do much of anything useful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Finale] [OT] etymological origin of royalties?

2007-02-06 Thread shirling neueweise
yes, but i'm talking about performance royalties. that is mechanical (distribution) rights. although of course in some languages royalties means essentially rights without specifications as to WHAT rights and would have to be clarified in context. Ah, but your question spoke to late 18th,

Re: [Finale] [OT] etymological origin of royalties?

2007-02-06 Thread shirling neueweise
i read that the first concert hall explicitly built for music was 1830 in vienna... it is possible that this may have been specific to the germanic lands, i'm not sure. -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com

Re: [Finale] Music theory

2007-02-06 Thread shirling neueweise
Music Theory, maybe throughout history, is and was always a result of analizing, ... Ah, yes. I've always thought this was true. hey will, don't generalize, i had some really interesting profs over the years... well, at least one. (yeh i thought that would go unnoticed too) -- shirling

[Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread verngraham
Chuck! Greetings from another bassist. I have been going nuts with Finale 2K7 since I installed it and am now going back to 2K6. The parts extraction feature nearly killed me! I have a steady client for whom I do Big Band copying, and it almost doubled the time to do the part extractions and lay

Re: [Finale] Music theory

2007-02-06 Thread Chuck Israels
On Feb 6, 2007, at 7:14 AM, shirling neueweise wrote: Music Theory, maybe throughout history, is and was always a result of analizing, ... Ah, yes. I've always thought this was true. hey will, don't generalize, i had some really interesting profs over the years... well, at least one.

Re: [Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:49 AM 2/6/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been going nuts with Finale 2K7 since I installed it and am now going back to 2K6. The parts extraction feature nearly killed me! I have a steady client for whom I do Big Band copying, and it almost doubled the time to do the part extractions

Re: [Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread Chuck Israels
On Feb 6, 2007, at 6:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck! Greetings from another bassist. I have been going nuts with Finale 2K7 since I installed it and am now going back to 2K6. The parts extraction feature nearly killed me! I have a steady client for whom I do Big Band copying, and it

Re: [Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck! Greetings from another bassist. I have been going nuts with Finale 2K7 since I installed it and am now going back to 2K6. The parts extraction feature nearly killed me! I have a steady client for whom I do Big Band copying, and it almost doubled the time to do

Re: [Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread Eric Dannewitz
No way. 2007 and linked parts, for Jazz Band, is way faster. Did you read the manual about how to do the parts correctly? Did you also get Chucks great emails a couple of months ago about doing it as well? Did you look at the templates included? It is a huge time saver once you figure it out.

RE: [Finale] Home Editions Of Windows Vista Won't Run On MacOr LinuxVirtual Machines

2007-02-06 Thread Fisher, Allen
Networked printer, not attached to a computer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dhbailey Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 9:30 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Home Editions Of Windows Vista Won't Run On MacOr

Re: [Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread verngraham
If that's true, I sure don't understand why Finale Tech Support didn't tell me that when I asked them for help. So, if I understand correctly, when I go to extract parts, (assuming I have already defined the setup for parts), it will create linked parts, which I should choose NOT to use??? What

RE: [Finale] Home Editions Of Windows Vista Won't Run On MacOr LinuxVirtual Machines

2007-02-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:43 AM 2/6/2007, Fisher, Allen wrote: Networked printer, not attached to a computer.  I'm not sure what your setup is, but this works fine for me in XP Home. I've got an old HP LaserJet6 with a print server dongle that plugs into the parallel port on the back of the printer and then gets

[Finale] music theory

2007-02-06 Thread Will Denayer
Music Theory, maybe throughout history, is and was always a result of analizing, ... Ah, yes. I've always thought this was true. hey will, don't generalize, i had some really interesting profs over the years... well, at least one. (yeh i thought that would go unnoticed too) I did not write

Re: [Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that's true, I sure don't understand why Finale Tech Support didn't tell me that when I asked them for help. So, if I understand correctly, when I go to extract parts, (assuming I have already defined the setup for parts), it will create linked parts, which I should

Re: [Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread Rich Caldwell
I was skeptical at first, and downright irate because of the issues linked parts. I never thought I'd want to use it as it currently exists. However, I recently did my first score (large orchestral) using linked parts via a parts score and found it a huge time saver. True, it's another

[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 43, Issue 8

2007-02-06 Thread Will Denayer
I can think of at least one example where practice followed theory, and that's the case of modal/Garlandian notation in the Parisian Organum repertory. The fact is that the theorists wrote about the rhythmic modes and invented mode 2 (short long) to balance mode 1 (long short), but at the

Re: [Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:59 AM 2/6/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that's true, I sure don't understand why Finale Tech Support didn't tell me that when I asked them for help. I have an answer for that, but it's unprintable. g So, if I understand correctly, when I go to extract parts, (assuming I have already

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 5, 2007, at 6:46 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Timer servers have to supply time-zone agnostic time signals, which means they can't include settings for daylight savings and the like, because different regions in different time zones have different rules for when (and if) they enter DST. It

Re: [Finale] TAN: Audacity

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 5, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On 5-Feb-07, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: OK, I downloaded Audacity and read the manual. But when I go to open one of my MP3 files, the program tells me both that it can't read the file type *and* that the file doesn't exist!

Re: [Finale] Piano Bracket

2007-02-06 Thread George Ports
I agree with you concerning the right bracket but, it's a must in this case since the customer wants it that way. I'd rather let it go and do it his way. Thanks for your help, George - Original Message - From: shirling neueweise [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday,

Re: [Finale] Piano Bracket

2007-02-06 Thread George Ports
Hi David, Can't get what you suggested to work. This is what was my original problem. The piano bracket won't show up and is why I wondered if it has anything to do with the fact that I'm using guitar staves instead of piano staves. Any ideas? Is there something I checked or didn't check on

Re: [Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread Eric Dannewitz
You should try the Smartmusic support dhbailey wrote: Finale Tech Support aren't the brightest bulbs in the chandelier, if you get my drift. They don't seem to take the time to actually read what you've sent them, or to think through what it is you're asking them about. They give

Re: [Finale] OT networked printers (was: Home Editions Of Windows Vista Won't Run On MacOr LinuxVirtual Machines)

2007-02-06 Thread Bruce K H Kau
I have XP home and our household prints to a networked printer (using a linksys wireless print server). It wasn't pretty, as the printer is technically a USB printer, so initial config was painful (long story, more about stupidity and ignorance), but once I figured out, it works just fine. I

Re: [Finale] Music theory

2007-02-06 Thread Bruce K H Kau
Sorry. My bad, I may have quoted the original wrong, but Will didn't put that silly remark. Actually, I would have loved to have a good theory prof, but alas I was not a music major and my knowledge is from friends, books, and this list. I was just remarking on the spelling error. :-)

Re: [Finale] Piano Bracket

2007-02-06 Thread shirling neueweise
it sounds like maybe you are doing it in scroll view but have already optimized (page view) the score... or in scroll view but in a staff set in an unoptimized score... you can assign any bracket to any group of staves, no matter what kind of staff. Can't get what you suggested to work.

Re: [Finale] music theory

2007-02-06 Thread shirling neueweise
hey will, no condescension was intended, it was meant entirely in fun, but yes i did in fact mean hey bruce, don't generalize in response to bruce's response to your response. (sorry for confusion in attribution) nothing nasty meant at all, just picking up the subtle and mostly unnoticed

Re: [Finale] Piano Bracket

2007-02-06 Thread shirling neueweise
I agree with you concerning the right bracket but, it's a must in this case since the customer wants it that way. I'd rather let it go and do it his way. george, clients don't always know enough about notation to best make these decisions... of course a portion of the ones that know the

Re: [Finale] Piano Bracket

2007-02-06 Thread George Ports
Yeahespecially since I do a lot of work for him. George - Original Message - From: shirling neueweise [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Piano Bracket I agree with you concerning the right bracket

Re: [Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread dhbailey
Rich Caldwell wrote: [snip] I'm nervous hearing of rare bugs, however, which cause weird things to happen in the parts. Hopefully MM will fix them within years. [snip] You can count on MM to fix it within years. Just remember that a century isn't anything more than a collection of

Re: [Finale] [OT] etymological origin of royalties?

2007-02-06 Thread shirling neueweise
in most cases in this transition period (and later to some extent) the payments to the composer (the more significant ones anyways) would have come directly from the extended royalty i meant the more significant payments, not the more significant composers, would have come... since

Re: [Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread dhbailey
Eric Dannewitz wrote: You should try the Smartmusic support dhbailey wrote: Finale Tech Support aren't the brightest bulbs in the chandelier, if you get my drift. They don't seem to take the time to actually read what you've sent them, or to think through what it is you're asking

Re: [Finale] Piano Bracket

2007-02-06 Thread George Ports
Tried it again with 'optimized' and 'unoptimized' in page view to no avail. I usually always enter in page view because of habit. I'd hate to have to create a piano bracket just for this when there must be an easy way to merely hit a button. George - Original Message - From: shirling

Re: [Finale] MP3--listen only?

2007-02-06 Thread Ken Moore
David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What bit-rate is that for the MP3 files? My experience is that size can vary quite a bit depending on bit-rate and the musical content. I was using MusicMatch (provided by HP on my desktop) at 128 kbit/s. for those figures. I just tried again at

RE: [Finale] Home Editions Of Windows Vista Won't Run On Mac

2007-02-06 Thread Ken Moore
Fisher, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...]I've had nothing but headaches with both Media Center and WinXP HOME. You can't print on a network using HOME and you have to do a bunch of registry wizardry to get Media Center do do much of anything useful. I don't like Windows XP and I don't

Re: [Finale] music theory

2007-02-06 Thread verngraham
Hey-anybody out there know anything about MusicPress (from the software company in Vermont)? hey will, no condescension was intended, it was meant entirely in fun, but yes i did in fact mean hey bruce, don't generalize in response to bruce's response to your response. (sorry for confusion in

Re: [Finale] 2007a frustration - linked parts

2007-02-06 Thread Chuck Israels
On Feb 6, 2007, at 9:00 AM, Rich Caldwell wrote: I was skeptical at first, and downright irate because of the issues linked parts. I never thought I'd want to use it as it currently exists. However, I recently did my first score (large orchestral) using linked parts via a parts score and

Re: [Finale] Page margins

2007-02-06 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Friends, Where Hans Swinnen wrote, in part: I'm sure Finale doesn't regognize page numbers…! This is not consistent with my experience, which is that Finale is set so that the first page in a file defaults to a right hand side page 1. ns ___ Finale

Re: [Finale] Page margins

2007-02-06 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
I've had a few issues with the page numbers myself, for example, my editor wanted the first violin part of a sinfonia to have the first movement which fit on two pages as a spread. Meaning pages 2, and 3. Inserting a blank page at the beginning and using a page range just didn't work. I tried

Re: [Finale] music theory

2007-02-06 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:41 PM 2/6/2007 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anybody out there know anything about MusicPress (from the software company in Vermont)? Formerly available. I have it. I wrote the last documentation for it, as far as it got. It is very different from Finale. The last version is fully

[Finale] Double time swing playback

2007-02-06 Thread Lon Price
I'm working on a slow blues that has a double time swing figure, and I can't seem to get Finale to interpret it correctly on playback. Does anyone know if this is possible in Finale? Lon Price, Los Angeles [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Finale] music theory

2007-02-06 Thread Williams, Jim
Hey-anybody out there know anything about MusicPress (from the software company in Vermont)? try www.graphire.com and see for yourself. When does the last update appear to be?Also seems to have migrated to the left coast. ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-06 Thread Stephen Ellis
When we Mac users set up our computer, we are asked what time zone we are in, and what is the closest city to us on a list. This gives enough info to find the offset. One of the notes to the update for Mac OS X 10.4.6 noted that the update Makes Mac OS X aware of United States Daylight

Re: [Finale] Page margins

2007-02-06 Thread dhbailey
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Friends, Where Hans Swinnen wrote, in part: I'm sure Finale doesn't regognize page numbers…! This is not consistent with my experience, which is that Finale is set so that the first page in a file defaults to a right hand side page 1. I think what Hans was saying

Re: [Finale] Piano Bracket

2007-02-06 Thread dhbailey
George Ports wrote: Tried it again with 'optimized' and 'unoptimized' in page view to no avail. I usually always enter in page view because of habit. I'd hate to have to create a piano bracket just for this when there must be an easy way to merely hit a button. George So you've defined the

Re: [Finale] music theory

2007-02-06 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey-anybody out there know anything about MusicPress (from the software company in Vermont)? [snip] Graphire Music Press is/was a terrific engraving program which had very elegant output, but they had an unfortunate pricing scheme which made many of the

Re: [Finale] Double time swing playback

2007-02-06 Thread Christopher Smith
On 6-Feb-07, at 2:35 PM, Lon Price wrote: I'm working on a slow blues that has a double time swing figure, and I can't seem to get Finale to interpret it correctly on playback. Does anyone know if this is possible in Finale? Well, that depends on your definition of possible and

Re: [Finale] Double time swing playback

2007-02-06 Thread Dick Hauser
On Feb 6, 2007, at 11:35 AM, Lon Price wrote: I'm working on a slow blues that has a double time swing figure, and I can't seem to get Finale to interpret it correctly on playback. Does anyone know if this is possible in Finale? I don't suppose you could use 12/8 ? Dick H

Re: [Finale] Piano Bracket

2007-02-06 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Friends, I've so far kept my oar out of this puddle, because I'm not sure I have enough information to make a meaningful contribution. For example, when George Ports wrote: Is there a way to put a piano bracket connecting two guitar (single staves)? These are not piano staveswill

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Feb 2007 at 12:43, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Feb 5, 2007, at 6:46 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Timer servers have to supply time-zone agnostic time signals, which means they can't include settings for daylight savings and the like, because different regions in different time zones have

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Feb 2007 at 15:11, Stephen Ellis wrote: When we Mac users set up our computer, we are asked what time zone we are in, and what is the closest city to us on a list. This gives enough info to find the offset. Similar to Windows, though Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, decided to

Re(2): [Finale] TAN: Audacity

2007-02-06 Thread Leigh Daniels
Andrew, I just downloaded Audacity (Mac OS X) and had no trouble importing an MP3 and exporting it as a WAV. I have LAME installed. I'm guessing that Christopher is right and you need the LAME framework installed. Are you sure that the MP3 file is valid? Will the Quicktime Player play it?

Re: [Finale] [OT] etymological origin of royalties?

2007-02-06 Thread John Howell
At 4:11 PM +0100 2/6/07, shirling neueweise wrote: yes, but i'm talking about performance royalties. that is mechanical (distribution) rights. although of course in some languages royalties means essentially rights without specifications as to WHAT rights and would have to be clarified in

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-06 Thread John Howell
At 6:11 PM -0500 2/6/07, David W. Fenton wrote: I believe Indiana's legislature voted to stop their strange situation (they are so close to Central Time that they didn't go to DST, so, basically the result was that they stayed on the same Eastern Time clock, which means as a result flipped back

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-06 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Stephen Ellis / 2007/02/06 / 03:11 PM wrote: One of the notes to the update for Mac OS X 10.4.6 noted that the update Makes Mac OS X aware of United States Daylight Savings Time (DST) changes enacted by the Energy Policy Act of 2005. A similar update was part of OS X 10.4.5. And if you

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-06 Thread Mark D Lew
On Feb 6, 2007, at 3:11 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: [answering Andrew Stiller] Apparently the only exceptions now are 1) Hawaii and 2) the Navaho nation. I believe Indiana's legislature voted to stop their strange situation (they are so close to Central Time that they didn't go to DST, so,

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Feb 6, 2007, at 6:11 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: but according to the article on this topic in the Philadelphia Inquirer a few days ago, devices that rely on time-servers *will* in fact be automatically adjusted to accomodate the new DST regime. The main problem will be with older computers

Re: [Finale] Double time swing playback

2007-02-06 Thread Lon Price
On Feb 6, 2007, at 12:50 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On 6-Feb-07, at 2:35 PM, Lon Price wrote: I'm working on a slow blues that has a double time swing figure, and I can't seem to get Finale to interpret it correctly on playback. Does anyone know if this is possible in Finale?

Re: [Finale] OT: daylight savings changes

2007-02-06 Thread Randolph Peters
Mark D Lew wrote: Most (but not all) of Indiana used to behave like that as well, but, as David notes, last year the state legislature voted to abandon that plan and go back to observing DST. The state is now once again split between Central and Eastern time zones, with each part observing

[Finale] Tuplet-Slur thickness

2007-02-06 Thread Raimund Lintzen
Hello to all, does anybody know how to change the thickness of a tuplet-slur? I know how to change the thickness of the tuplet-bracket but... Thank you Raimund Lintzen ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu