Re: [Finale] Advice needed

[Lawrence David Eden]

You might have answered your own question:  "…..I am looking for other 
publishers.”

Larry Eden



> On Sep 3, 2019, at 1:31 AM, Raymond Horton  wrote:
> 
> So, I have a publisher interested in publishing a work of mine, but
> says they need the file in Sibelius format (groan!)
> 
> I have a friend who uses Sib, but he is extremely busy and I hate to
> impose upon him. it’s a fairly large file, 33 pages for brass band,23
> staves, 3000 frames. How much work is involved, approximately? It
> looks like I could purchase a lifetime license for the software for
> $200, would this be a good time for me to learn the program? (I am 66
> years old with a few health problems in my past Including a spine
> injury which makes sitting at the computer for long hours much more
> difficult than it used to be - I am not certain of my longevity
> prognosis, and I would rather spend my remaining years trying to
> create something new then learning new software. Financially, this is
> not a mass market work, so paying a professional to convert this would
> probably not make sense for me, although I haven’t been published much
> and I would like to get it out there even if I lose a little. In the
> meantime, I am trying to look for other publishers.
> 
> Any advice will be very much appreciated!
> 
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Re: [Finale] Default file with Wizard

[Lawrence Yates]

Yes, thanks, done all that - I've changed every default file I can find but
the wizard still seems to take it from somewhere else - not a clue where.

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On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 15:02, David H. Bailey 
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> On 6/21/2019 9:39 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> > At least on Mac, the setup wizard uses whichever document style you
> choose.
> > Edit the one you are choosing. (Document styles are not the same as the
> > Maestro Default file.) I can't swear it always uses the page size in the
> > style doc, though. I created a document style of my own, and it
> definitely
> > uses the page size in that when I do Custom layouts with the wizard.
> (Which
> > is almost all the time how I start.) If something is overriding the page
> > size, I would expect it to be in Configuration Files somewhere (like
> > "ensembles.txt"). But I don't see page size anywhere in there.
> >
>
> I was always under the impression that we had to edit the Maestro
> Default file, changing whatever we wanted to, adding whichever libraries
> we wanted to, then saving it to the same location with the same name,
> overwriting the original (it's good to save a copy of that somewhere
> before you edit it so you can revert to it if you wish.)
>
> At least that was how it was in the olden times before the Wizard was
> introduced.
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Re: [Finale] Default file with Wizard

[Lawrence Yates]

Hi,

thanks, I've changed that but the Wizard seems to use a different file as
the default.

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On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 14:05, Robert Patterson 
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> I believe you can modify the document style file(s) to change the default
> page size(s). On Mac the template files are in
>
> ~/Library/Application Support/MakeMusic/Finale 26/Music Files/Document
> Styles
>
> They are someplace comparable on Windows, but I don't remember exactly the
> folder path.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 7:28 AM Lawrence Yates 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi, can somebody please tell me how to change the default to A4 rather
> than
> > Letter on new files created with the wizard.  I've tried everything I can
> > think of and am getting nowhere.
> >
> > I know how to do it when creating new files without the wizard, it's just
> > the wizard version that I need to change to A4 default.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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[Finale] Default file with Wizard

[Lawrence Yates]

Hi, can somebody please tell me how to change the default to A4 rather than
Letter on new files created with the wizard.  I've tried everything I can
think of and am getting nowhere.

I know how to do it when creating new files without the wizard, it's just
the wizard version that I need to change to A4 default.

Thanks,

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Re: [Finale] Need help with HP LJ 5000 and MacOS Mojave

[Lawrence David Eden]

I had problems with my Lexmark printer after upgrading to High Sierra.  What I 
earned is that not all printers are compatible with the Mac OS.  Apple 
published a list of compatible printers when High Sierra was released.  Is the 
HP printer in question on that list?
BTW, I resolved the issue by buying a new printer.  

Larry

> On May 5, 2019, at 11:07 AM, Johannes Gebauer  
> wrote:
> 
> Just to add: The printer works just fine with exactly the same setup from my 
> wife's computer running El Capitan. So it is definitely something to do with 
> Mojave. Some security setting perhaps?
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[Finale] Printing parts

[Lawrence David Eden]

Hi Listers,

I think I might have set up something wrong with regard to printing parts.  
(FinaleMac 25)

I need some clarification:  Should I be able to print a part from the “EDIT 
PART” menu?

Do I use EXTRACT PARTS to isolate the part I want to print?


The problem that I am experiencing is that if I print a part from EDIT PARTS, 
Finale prints the entire score instead of a single part.  Is Finale behaving 
normally?


Thanks!

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Re: [Finale] Moving measures

[Lawrence David Eden]

Thanks to my colleagues who weighed in on my question about moving measures 
from one system to another.

I discovered the fix:  set the score to reflow measures and maintain system 
locks.  Gotta love Finale!  It can always "be done” but solutions require a lot 
of digging.  I know:  Preaching to the choir….


Larry 






> On Mar 12, 2019, at 9:57 AM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
> 
> ON FINMAC25 acting wonky is de rigour. Just last night I couldn't changed 
> Bold type item to italic with the title page tool. Reboot fixed it but what a 
> pain meantime.
> GJB 
> 
>On Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 9:53:00 AM EDT, Christopher Smith 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Are you in the Selection Tool? 
> 
> Otherwise, when Finale starts acting wonky, I quit, logout (or reboot the 
> computer) and start again. That usually clears the problem.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
>> On Tue Mar 12, at TuesdayMar 12 9:48 AM, Lawrence David Eden 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Listers,
>> 
>> I am running Fin 25 and Mac Mojave.
>> 
>> I used to be able to move measures from one system to another but can no 
>> longer do that.  For example:  I have a 2 page document that needs to have 2 
>> extra measures from page 3.  Used to be I could use my up/down arrows after 
>> highlighting the offending measures, and Finale would move the extra 
>> measures back onto page 2.  But it doesn’t work today.  What have I missed?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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[Finale] Moving measures

[Lawrence David Eden]

Dear Listers,

I am running Fin 25 and Mac Mojave.

I used to be able to move measures from one system to another but can no longer 
do that.  For example:  I have a 2 page document that needs to have 2 extra 
measures from page 3.  Used to be I could use my up/down arrows after 
highlighting the offending measures, and Finale would move the extra measures 
back onto page 2.  But it doesn’t work today.  What have I missed?


Thanks,

Larry Eden
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Re: [Finale] (no subject)

[Lawrence Yates]

Thanks John - tried that.  I even found the email from when I last had this
problem - the solution then was what I've just tried and it doesn't seem to
work any more.  I've given up.

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 22:30, john smith  wrote:

> I think you'd have to go and edit all of the .ftmx templates in the
> directory. On my machine they're in
> user>AppData>Roaming>MakeMusic>Finale2014>Music Files>Templates
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 1:11 PM Lawrence Yates 
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, I neglected to say that I want to change the file that opens with
> > the setup wizard.  I've changed the default file and that works with the
> > "new" from default but not with the wizard.
> >
> > I've had this problem before when I last had to re-install Finale but I
> > can't remember how I did it, nor can I find the old emails telling me how
> > to do it.
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 18:00, j...@thomastudios.com 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On the Mac, one would open and change the Finale default file and then
> > > resave it.  Would that not work for Windows?
> > >
> > > ***
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Mar 4, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Lawrence Yates 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Could someone please remind me how to change the default page size
> for
> > > new
> > > > documents.  I haven't the faintest idea what to look for in the
> manual
> > -
> > > > I've tried everything I can think of and come up with nothing.
> > > >
> > > > Finale 25 windows
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Lawrence
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Re: [Finale] (no subject)

[Lawrence Yates]

Sorry, I neglected to say that I want to change the file that opens with
the setup wizard.  I've changed the default file and that works with the
"new" from default but not with the wizard.

I've had this problem before when I last had to re-install Finale but I
can't remember how I did it, nor can I find the old emails telling me how
to do it.

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 18:00, j...@thomastudios.com 
wrote:

> On the Mac, one would open and change the Finale default file and then
> resave it.  Would that not work for Windows?
>
> ***
> J D Thomas
> ThomaStudios
>
>
>
> > On Mar 4, 2019, at 9:10 AM, Lawrence Yates 
> wrote:
> >
> > Could someone please remind me how to change the default page size for
> new
> > documents.  I haven't the faintest idea what to look for in the manual -
> > I've tried everything I can think of and come up with nothing.
> >
> > Finale 25 windows
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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[Finale] (no subject)

[Lawrence Yates]

Could someone please remind me how to change the default page size for new
documents.  I haven't the faintest idea what to look for in the manual -
I've tried everything I can think of and come up with nothing.

Finale 25 windows

Thanks,

Lawrence

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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[Lawrence David Eden]

The values I am describing are found on the MIDI keyboard itself.  MIDI 
instruments can be assigned a numeric volume level from 0 to 127 on my keyboard 
(Kawai.) 
As others have mentioned here, you can use the MIXER found in WINDOW Menu to 
assign volume, and panning.

Larry Eden

> On Mar 3, 2019, at 8:11 AM, martin nickless  wrote:
> 
> Thanks 
> Is that in the finale manual ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 3 Mar 2019, at 07:49, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:
>> 
>> You did not mention if you are using a MIDI or internal speakers, but each 
>> instrument in General MIDI can be assigned a volume via your MIDI keyboard.
>> 
>> Larry
>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 1:12 AM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi there can someone help me 
>>> My volume is not balanced when I use play back 
>>> The bones are very loud and can hardly hear the trumpets 
>>> Not sure where to find individual volume control
>>> I’m on windows 10
>>> Finale 25
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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[Lawrence David Eden]

You did not mention if you are using a MIDI or internal speakers, but each 
instrument in General MIDI can be assigned a volume via your MIDI keyboard.

Larry

> On Mar 3, 2019, at 1:12 AM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi there can someone help me 
> My volume is not balanced when I use play back 
> The bones are very loud and can hardly hear the trumpets 
> Not sure where to find individual volume control
> I’m on windows 10
> Finale 25
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[Finale] Metatools

[Lawrence David Eden]

Finale 25.5 Mac OS Mojave

Where are the transposition meta tools stored?  I used to hit “7” to transpose 
a measure down and octave, and “8” to transpose up an octave.  Right now, 
Finale is transposing up a whole step when I hit “7” and down an octave when I 
hit “8.”  

Thanks in advance,

Larry Eden
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Re: [Finale] Mac OS issue

[Lawrence David Eden]

Now you tell me….:-)

You would think that after using Finale for 30+ years I would have known to 
take this wise precaution.


Larry

> On Feb 10, 2019, at 9:51 PM, Cisraels  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Lawrence,
> 
> 
> 
> Keep a couple of copies of your uncorrupted new preference file to use if the 
> one you’re using becomes corrupted. That avoids the rebuilding process.   
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>> 
>> On Feb 10, 2019 at 6:26 PM,  > (mailto:lde...@comcast.net)>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I solved my Crashing Finale problem by deleting the Finale Preferences File. 
>> Hated setting everything up again, but Finale is now running smoothly again. 
>> I wonder if this will fix Mike G’s problem as well.
>> 
>> Larry Eden
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Mike Greensill
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just did the same and Finale 25 has slowed noticeably. Also a strange
>>> behavior has returnedwhen I use the staff tool to alter the distance
>>> between stave, all the music on the staves disappears while I'm moving them.
>>> 
>>> Mike G.
>>> 
>>> www.mikegreensill.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 4:02 AM Lawrence David Eden  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Greetings and a word of warning to others:
>>>> 
>>>> Yesterday, I installed the latest Security Update for Mac OS. (I am
>>>> running 10.13.6). I zapped the PRAM after I did the installation.
>>>> 
>>>> When I opened Finale 25.5 to continue work on a project, my MIDI settings
>>>> were different. Using Speedy when the score was displayed in transposed
>>>> pitch caused a return of the minor seconds sounding as I entered each
>>>> note. This was a problem that my colleagues on the List helped me fix last
>>>> summer. Question is: was it the Security Update or the PRAM Zap that
>>>> changed things in Finale.
>>>> 
>>>> Any ideas? Have any of you experienced this issue as well?
>>>> 
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Re: [Finale] Mac OS issue

[Lawrence David Eden]

I solved my Crashing Finale problem by deleting the Finale Preferences File.  
Hated setting everything up again, but Finale is now running smoothly again.  I 
wonder if this will fix Mike G’s problem as well.

Larry Eden

> On Feb 10, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Mike Greensill  wrote:
> 
> I just did the same and Finale 25 has slowed noticeably. Also a strange
> behavior has returnedwhen I use the staff tool to alter the distance
> between stave, all the music on the staves disappears while I'm moving them.
> 
> Mike G.
> 
> www.mikegreensill.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 4:02 AM Lawrence David Eden 
> wrote:
> 
>> Greetings and a word of warning to others:
>> 
>> Yesterday, I installed the latest Security Update for Mac OS.  (I am
>> running 10.13.6).  I zapped the PRAM after I did the installation.
>> 
>> When I opened Finale 25.5 to continue work on a project, my MIDI settings
>> were different. Using Speedy when the score was displayed in transposed
>> pitch caused a return of the minor seconds sounding as I entered each
>> note.  This was a problem that my colleagues on the List helped me fix last
>> summer.  Question is:  was it the Security Update or the PRAM Zap that
>> changed things in Finale.
>> 
>> Any ideas?  Have any of you experienced this issue as well?
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Mac OS issue

[Lawrence David Eden]

Looks like I might have jumped the shark with my warnings about the Security 
Update.  My problems with Finale 25 have proven to be unrelated to the Security 
Update.

Finale Mac 25 Mac Mini running Mac OS Mojave 10.14.3.  I can crash Finale 
simply by changing tools….very unusual for my system.

Question:  I plan on doing a reinstallation of Finale.  Should I delete the 
version (FinMac25) that is already on my Mac before reinstalling?


Thanks for any assistance!

Larry Eden

> On Feb 10, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:
> 
> Greetings and a word of warning to others:
> 
> Yesterday, I installed the latest Security Update for Mac OS.  (I am running 
> 10.13.6).  I zapped the PRAM after I did the installation.
> 
> When I opened Finale 25.5 to continue work on a project, my MIDI settings 
> were different. Using Speedy when the score was displayed in transposed pitch 
> caused a return of the minor seconds sounding as I entered each note.  This 
> was a problem that my colleagues on the List helped me fix last summer.  
> Question is:  was it the Security Update or the PRAM Zap that changed things 
> in Finale.
> 
> Any ideas?  Have any of you experienced this issue as well?
> 
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[Finale] Crashing

[Lawrence David Eden]

Finale 25 has been crashing on my Mac running OS 10.13.6 High Sierra.  I am 
using Speedy to enter notes and Finale crashes suddenly.  
I have MIDI THRU turned OFF, but after each crash, Finale enables MIDI THRU and 
I have to turn it off again.  The crashes are a new occurrence.

I got this report from Finale on its last crash.  I hope someone can tell me 
how to fix this issue as it is making Finale useless.  Thanks!

Larry Eden


Process:   Finale [9483]
Path:  /Applications/Finale25.app/Contents/MacOS/Finale
Identifier:com.makemusic.Finale
Version:   25.5.0.259 (25.5.0.259)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:??? [1]
Responsible:   Finale [9483]
User ID:   502

Date/Time: 2019-02-10 08:23:38.725 -0500
OS Version:Mac OS X 10.13.6 (17G4015)
Report Version:12
Anonymous UUID:E4398D99-8724-CB10-1514-76B5E1595BC0

Sleep/Wake UUID:   AF1DA39C-D6C2-45BD-8C34-157BFD25B749

Time Awake Since Boot: 51000 seconds
Time Since Wake:   5400 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread:0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type:EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes:   0x, 0x
Exception Note:EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Application Specific Information:
abort() called
*** error for object 0x60213bf0: Invalid pointer dequeued from free list
 

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib  0x7fff76279b66 __pthread_kill + 10
1   libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x7fff76444080 pthread_kill + 333
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3   libsystem_malloc.dylib  0x7fff762e4dc1 nanozone_error + 502
4   libsystem_malloc.dylib  0x7fff762d8d5a 
_nano_malloc_check_clear + 410
5   libsystem_malloc.dylib  0x7fff762d9185 nano_calloc + 72
6   libsystem_malloc.dylib  0x7fff762d3c7c malloc_zone_calloc + 
87
7   libsystem_malloc.dylib  0x7fff762d458e calloc + 30
8   com.apple.ImageIO.framework 0x7fff50a952fe 
IIOReadPlugin::extractOptions(__CFDictionary const*) + 190
9   com.apple.ImageIO.framework 0x7fff50a95e3f 
IIOReadPlugin::willDecode(__CFDictionary const*) + 897
10  com.apple.ImageIO.framework 0x7fff50a6953d 
PNGReadPlugin::CopyImageBlockSetProc(void*, CGImageProvider*, CGRect, CGSize, 
__CFDictionary const*) + 45
11  com.apple.ImageIO.framework 0x7fff50a73ed9 
IIOImageProviderInfo::copyImageBlockSetWithOptions(CGImageProvider*, CGRect, 
CGSize, __CFDictionary const*) + 375
12  com.apple.ImageIO.framework 0x7fff50a71bc9 
IIOImageProviderInfo::CopyImageBlockSetWithOptions(void*, CGImageProvider*, 
CGRect, CGSize, __CFDictionary const*) + 687
13  com.apple.CoreGraphics  0x7fff4e59505c 
CGImageProviderCopyImageBlockSetWithOptions + 165
14  com.apple.CoreGraphics  0x7fff4e5ba24c img_blocks_create + 
399
15  com.apple.CoreGraphics  0x7fff4e599d8d img_data_lock + 2642
16  com.apple.CoreGraphics  0x7fff4e597dd9 CGSImageDataLock + 
190
17  com.apple.CoreGraphics  0x7fff4e66d395 
RIPImageDataInitializeShared + 88
18  com.apple.CoreGraphics  0x7fff4e651ced 
RIPImageCacheGetRetained + 680
19  com.apple.CoreGraphics  0x7fff4e67afe0 ripc_DrawImage + 974
20  com.apple.CoreGraphics  0x7fff4e5e1021 
CGContextDelegateDrawImage + 63
21  com.apple.CoreGraphics  0x7fff4e597352 
CGContextDrawImageWithOptions + 632
22  com.apple.CoreGraphics  0x7fff4e5970c0 CGContextDrawImage + 
73
23  com.apple.SkyLight  0x7fff70017f86 
SLSRegisterCursorWithImages + 801
24  com.apple.AppKit0x7fff4b8154f7 -[NSCursor 
_reallySet] + 372
25  com.apple.AppKit0x7fff4b815357 -[NSCursor set] + 104
26  com.makemusic.Finale0x00010d4e469a SetMacCursor(short) 
+ 1896
27  com.makemusic.Finale0x00010d3a4516 -[MusView 
fixCursor:] + 562
28  com.apple.AppKit0x7fff4b8fc0ad -[NSTrackingArea 
mouseMoved:] + 150
29  com.apple.AppKit0x7fff4c023340 
-[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) _reallySendEvent:isDelayedEvent:] + 4787
30  com.apple.AppKit0x7fff4c021c70 
-[NSWindow(NSEventRouting) sendEvent:] + 497
31  com.makemusic.Finale0x00010d310c36 -[MusicWindow 
sendEvent:] + 782
32  com.apple.AppKit0x7fff4be8342c 
-[NSApplication(NSEvent) sendEvent:] + 2964
33  com.makemusic.Finale0x00010d4e68aa -[FCApplication 
sendEvent:] + 143
34  com.apple.AppKit0x7fff4b6e38b5 -[NSApplication run] 
+ 812
35  com.apple.AppKit   

[Finale] Mac OS issue

[Lawrence David Eden]

Greetings and a word of warning to others:

Yesterday, I installed the latest Security Update for Mac OS.  (I am running 
10.13.6).  I zapped the PRAM after I did the installation.

When I opened Finale 25.5 to continue work on a project, my MIDI settings were 
different. Using Speedy when the score was displayed in transposed pitch caused 
a return of the minor seconds sounding as I entered each note.  This was a 
problem that my colleagues on the List helped me fix last summer.  Question is: 
 was it the Security Update or the PRAM Zap that changed things in Finale.

Any ideas?  Have any of you experienced this issue as well?

Larry Eden
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Re: [Finale] Looking for sheet music

[Lawrence David Eden]

Hi Barbara,

Are you familiar with:https://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page 


It might help get you started on your quest.

Larry Eden

> On Feb 1, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone help me please?
> 
> I'm looking for
> 
>Si dolce e il tormento - Claudio Monteverdi
>Aria Alta giove - Giuseppina Bridelli
>Parta, ti lascio, o caro - Porpora
>Cari giorni from Ines de castro - Giuseppe Persiano
>Colloque sentimental - Léo Ferré
>Ecouter une chanson bien douce - Léo Ferré
>Quel jolie temps - Barbara
>Parce que je t’aime - Barbara
>Le bel âge - Barbara
>Love song - Andrzej Panufnik
>Mélodie (Andantino) flute and piano - Emile Noblot
> 
> If you can, please mail me privately.
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Re: [Finale] Sale: Dorico Pro 2 and Dorico Elements 2

[Lawrence David Eden]

This is an interesting discussion….I am interested in hearing what 3rd party 
plugins are you referring to, Robert.   I am always looking for ways to 
automate Finale.

Larry Eden

> On Jan 25, 2019, at 11:03 AM, Robert Patterson  
> wrote:
> 
> I would be very interested to know more specifics about the things that are
> "well beyond Fin/Sib". Graphically, I know about flexible slurs, and I
> would be curious to know if lines (like 8va) also have multiple inflection
> points.
> 
> Beyond that, I would be curious to know what makes Dorico so much more
> superior for part layout.
> 
> Do you use any 3rd party plugins with Finale? In my experience, working
> without key 3rd party plugins in Finale is the slag mines. But I've
> developed a workflow using several key plugins that is very fast for many
> of the things you mentioned. In fact, it is difficult to imagine them being
> much faster.
> 
> ymmv
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:38 PM Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
> 
>> I would also note Sibelius 2019 was announced this week.  It seems to be
>> roughly the same magnitude of the Finale 26 release.  I am sure the
>> improvements are welcome, but really, this is a minuscule amount of
>> improvement for a paid release.  Dorico is adding capability 10-to-100
>> times faster than either Finale or Sibelius.
>> 
>> Dorico has a steep learning curve, and it is getting steeper all the
>> time as layers of capability are added.  It still lacks a few things
>> that the other programs have. For example, there is not yet any
>> automatic way to have a single line in the score (e.g. FHorn 1&3) break
>> out to separate parts for Fhorn 1 and FHorn 3.  And Dorico's automatic
>> playback isn't as advanced as Finale Human Playback.  But Dorico already
>> does some things that are well beyond Finale and Sibelius.  Moreover,
>> the architecture is more elegant, particularly in the ability to lay out
>> music intelligently in a minimum amount of time.  On the playback side,
>> many people are using Note Performer with Dorico and claiming very good
>> results.  I don't care that much.  The playback is good enough for what
>> I do.
>> 
>> I still have Finale 25 installed in case it is required for a
>> collaboration, but I am doing all my new projects in Dorico now.  I find
>> a typical project is taking about half as long with Dorico as I would
>> have spent in Finale.  Much of that comes at the back end where I had to
>> spend hours in final editing of part layouts.  With Dorico I typically
>> spend about one minute per page for part layout -- sometimes no editing
>> at all. But Dorico also provides big opportunities for time saving
>> during the note entry and harmonization processes.
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/22/2019 8:21 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
>>> Hello Finale and Sibelius Friends,
>>> 
>>> I'm forwarding this message to both the Finale and Sibelius groups, in
>>> case anybody is interested in exploring Dorico.  Using the code
>>> DORICO30 you can get 30% off of either Dorico 2 or Dorico Elements 2
>>> (a lighter version of Dorico) for this week only apparently.
>>> 
>>> Both of those programs also have free demo versions you can download
>>> and explore.
>>> 
>>> I'm not trying to push it on anybody but I know some people might be
>>> curious.  Version 2 brought many major improvements over version 1.
>>> 
>>> I freely admit that I am still not very fluent in Dorico, knowing that
>>> it will take me a lot of work to master it, but I also know there are
>>> people in both Finale and Sibelius groups who have taken to Dorico and
>>> are doing major projects in it.
>>> 
>>> There is a forum at steinberg.net for people who want to get a sense
>>> of how users are faring with the product.
>>> 
>>> Dorico still uses their elicenser software or their extra-cost USB
>>> dongle, so for people who are vehemently opposed to such anti-piracy
>>> methods, nothing has changed and you probably won't want to explore
>>> Dorico beyond the demo versions (I don't know if those have any
>>> anti-piracy methods since they're freely distributed by Steinberg.)
>>> 
>>> However, given the lack of forward motion in Sibelius and the lack of
>>> substantive improvements in Finale beyond the automatic stacking of
>>> articulations, Dorico may well be the future of professional level
>>> computer notation software.
>>> 
>>> Just wanted to let you all know,
>>> David H. Bailey
>> 
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[Finale] Parts

[Lawrence David Eden]

Greetings,

Fin Mac 25.5.0.259

What is the difference between:  EDIT Parts   and EXTRACT Parts

Do I have to EXTRACT parts before printing, or can I PRINT parts directly from 
EDIT parts?

Thanks for the lesson,

Larry Eden
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[Finale] Finale 26 hi jacked my computer!

[Lawrence]

Hi, I recently installed fin 26 demo. It has now changed all my finale files so 
that they now use 26 as the default. I’ve now disabled 26 but the files are 
still the same and cannot be opened on Fin 25 from outside the programme. The 
“change default” function does not offer Fin 25 as an option. Any ideas please? 
 I’m on a PC. 

Thanks. 

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Re: [Finale] YKEY versus Keyboard Maestro

[Lawrence David Eden]

Chuck,

I use KM and would be interested in trying your macros.  

Thanks,

Larry Eden
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> On Oct 3, 2018, at 6:17 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
> I have Keyboard Maestro and have a bunch of successful shortcuts and macros 
> already programmed. (Also a few I haven’t been able to create successfully.) 
> I’m happy to share what I have, if it turns out I have something you can use.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2018, at 2:25 PM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
>> 
>> FYI could not get YKEY to work no how and support was arcane and useless. 
>> Looks like they will give me a refund. Just bought Keyboard Maestro and did 
>> in 5 minutes what took a week in YKEY not to do.  Have no idea for the 
>> disparity. best
>> GJB
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Re: [Finale] Fin 25 and Mojave Compatibility

[Lawrence David Eden]

While I don’t have an answer for Giovanni, I am considering installing Mojave 
and would be interested in hearing about this new OS from any of my Mac 
colleagues on this list.

Thanks,

Larry Eden

> On Oct 3, 2018, at 4:19 AM, Giovanni Andreani  
> wrote:
> 
> First time working with Finale 25 (last updated version) after installing 
> MacOS Mojave.
> When typing lyrics into score, after exiting, Finale freezes and my only 
> option is to force quit. The file is pretty much long, a 50 pages with single 
> staff, heavy use of staff styles and many lyrics inserted.
> The same issue happened in a previous version of Finale, I think it was Fin 
> 2012, but I'm not sure: I remember finding a workaround by duplicating the 
> file by working on the single page I needed to create and then re-assembling 
> it in the original one by copy-pasting it.
> Is this a known issue?
> 
> Thank you
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Re: [Finale] Missing Fonts

[Lawrence David Eden]

Many thanks to my knowledgable colleagues on this list for promptly offering 
suggestions as to how to fix a font problem in Finale.  Thanks for sharing!

Larry Eden

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:46 AM, S Jones  wrote:
> 
> The Mac version used to show missing fonts as italicized and grayed out of
> it was used by finale but no longer available on the machine. How you get
> to see this is by editing the font of one of the missing items and see what
> font it takes you to.
> 
> Scott
> 
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 7:51 AM Lawrence David Eden 
> wrote:
> 
>> Dear Listers,
>> 
>> Finale 25 Mac
>> 
>> I recently asked about having missing fonts in a few of my arrangements
>> that were created with an earlier version of Finale.  The missing fonts
>> cause some of my text blocks to appear as squares with question marks in
>> the center.
>> 
>> How do I fix this issue, given that I don’t know which font is missing?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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[Finale] Missing Fonts

[Lawrence David Eden]

Dear Listers,

Finale 25 Mac

I recently asked about having missing fonts in a few of my arrangements that 
were created with an earlier version of Finale.  The missing fonts cause some 
of my text blocks to appear as squares with question marks in the center.  

How do I fix this issue, given that I don’t know which font is missing?

Thanks,

Larry Eden
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Re: [Finale] Finale and Yosemite

[Lawrence David Eden]

Try this link, Linda:


https://www.scoringnotes.com/news/makemusic-releases-version-25-of-finale/


> On Sep 5, 2018, at 6:22 PM, Linda Cummings  wrote:
> 
> Hello friends -
> 
> Some ten years ago I was active on this list! Now I'm getting back into
> Finale, but my old Macbook is running Yosemite. Will Finale 25 run on
> Yosemite?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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[Finale] Fonts

[Lawrence David Eden]

I recently used Finale 25 to open a file that was created with Finale Mac 2K7.  
Text instructions that I used in the file are now displaying as a series of  
boxes with a  "?"   in the middle of each box.

Am I correct in thinking that I have a font issue?

How can I get these expressions to display correctly in Finale 25?


Thanks,

Larry Eden
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[Finale] Printing: off topic

[Lawrence David Eden]

I have a question regarding my Brother laser printer.  It was a low end model 
HL-L2315DW 
The printer used to handle two sided copying with ease, but now I get a paper 
jam every time the first sheet is pulled back into the printer.

I am sure that I am not the first to experience this annoyance and am looking 
forward to a suggestion as to how to fix.


Thanks,
Larry
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Re: [Finale] Sibelius group

[Lawrence]

Thanks Lawrence. 

I don’t know how to do that but I’ll look into it. 

Thanks.  (I bought Sibelius to use with students but since I no longer do that, 
have no use for the programme and the group emails are irrelevant to me - 
nothing against Sibelius or any contributors per se. 

Thanks for your suggestion. 

Lawrence. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Aug 2018, at 12:53 pm, Lawrence David Eden  wrote:
> 
> I feel your frustration, Lawrence, but wouldn’t it be easier to just use your 
> mail program to filter the messages so you don’t have to see them?  You could 
> route them directly to the trash.
> 
> Larry Eden
> 
>> On Aug 17, 2018, at 2:07 AM, Lawrence  wrote:
>> 
>> Despite being unsubscribed I am being bombarded by posts from the Sibelius 
>> group. I cannot contact them to stop them because everything is returned to 
>> me because I am  unsubscribed. 
>> 
>> Please would some one who is a memeber of that list forward this to the 
>> admins to try to stop these, otherwise I will have to take a more drastic 
>> course, which I do not wish to do  
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Sibelius group

[Lawrence David Eden]

I feel your frustration, Lawrence, but wouldn’t it be easier to just use your 
mail program to filter the messages so you don’t have to see them?  You could 
route them directly to the trash.

Larry Eden

> On Aug 17, 2018, at 2:07 AM, Lawrence  wrote:
> 
> Despite being unsubscribed I am being bombarded by posts from the Sibelius 
> group. I cannot contact them to stop them because everything is returned to 
> me because I am  unsubscribed. 
> 
> Please would some one who is a memeber of that list forward this to the 
> admins to try to stop these, otherwise I will have to take a more drastic 
> course, which I do not wish to do  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
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[Finale] Sibelius group

[Lawrence]

Despite being unsubscribed I am being bombarded by posts from the Sibelius 
group. I cannot contact them to stop them because everything is returned to me 
because I am  unsubscribed. 

Please would some one who is a memeber of that list forward this to the admins 
to try to stop these, otherwise I will have to take a more drastic course, 
which I do not wish to do  

Thanks



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[Finale] OT Sibelius list

[Lawrence]

Hi 

Does anybody know how to get off the Sibelius list?  I’ve unsubscribed and it 
won’t let me post anything but I still keep getting the posts. When I try to 
reply to them it tells me I’m unsubscribed. 

Cheers 

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Re: [Finale] test

[Lawrence David Eden]

LOL

> On Jul 12, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Raymond Horton  wrote:
> 
> C+
> 
> ​Raymond Horton
> Composer, Arranger
> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
> Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com
> 
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018, 1:25 PM rglan  wrote:
> 
>> test
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Re: [Finale] Dorico 2

[Lawrence David Eden]

Thanks, Craig.  Great review.

Larry Eden

> On Jul 3, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
> 
> I am a month into my serious usage of Dorico 2 and thought I'd provide an 
> update on my experience. Everything about Dorico is more elegant.  But that 
> means it is radically different from the mode of operation deeply ingrained 
> in long-term Finale users.  Many of us have learned Finale over a span of 10 
> or even 20 years.  There is a big learning curve with any product of this 
> complexity.  There are many resources for Dorico information (help pages, a 
> comprehensive manual, YouTube videos, monthly Facebook live sessions etc.)  
> The product is evolving so quickly that none of these sources is definitive 
> and up to date.  So the user is on his or her own to assemble one's own best 
> practices and workflow.  In my case, I started compiling a Word document of 
> tips and techniques for everything I do regularly.  Otherwise I would not be 
> able to remember most of it. Over the course of the month, this document has 
> grown to about 30 pages and 100 procedures, but I don't have to refer to it 
> very often now.
> 
> The heavy Dorico user relies on PC keystrokes and shortcuts. These can be 
> hard to remember until you develop muscle memory. Once you have that, I think 
> productivity with Dorico is far greater than Finale because Dorico takes care 
> of so many of the tedious details automatically.  For example, there is an 
> "Engraving" mode in Dorico where you can make your final layout changes.  
> With Finale, this part of the process often represented 20% of my time.  
> Layout decisions with Dorico are far beyond Finale and Sibelius.  I have done 
> some projects that literally required no layout changes whatsoever.
> 
> There has been practically no investment in Finale functions most of the past 
> decade, and I believe we should not expect much from the company.  People who 
> are completely satisfied with what Finale does for them today may have no 
> reason to look at Dorico.  People who spend many hours per week doing 
> composing, arranging or engraving really can increase their productivity (and 
> possibly income) by learning Dorico.  I do think there is a threshold of use 
> needed to make it worthwhile to take on this new learning curve.
> 
> The big issue is this.  Almost everything Dorico does is more productive and 
> more elegant than the equivalent processes in Finale.  While Dorico probably 
> does 90% of the things you can do with Finale today (and a great many things 
> you cannot easily do with Finale,) that last 10% can be a real roadblock.  I 
> have not seen a comprehensive list of the things that a Finale user would not 
> be able to accomplish in Dorico, but here are a few examples.
> 
> * Playback in general is not advanced.  There is no support for D.S., D.C. 
> and similar variations.  You can engrave these with text symbols, but 
> playback will not recognize that.
> 
> * There is no ability to set swing in playback
> 
> * If you are heavily dependent on Staff Styles in Finale, there is no real 
> equivalent (other than the slash regions and bar-repeat regions, and they 
> don't have the flexibility associated with Finale Staff Styles)
> 
> * Chord support in Dorico is light years ahead of Finale and you can really 
> fly through that part of a project that requires chord symbols.  However, it 
> is very difficult to have different chord spellings for different instruments.
> 
> There are more issues.  I'm not trying to be comprehensive. However, I have 
> reached the point that I am so much more productive with Dorico that I 
> probably will not be creating any new Finale projects.
> 
> A couple more observations to wrap up.  There many bugs in Version 2.0.  The 
> Steinberg team is large and heavily engaged in fixing these things.  There 
> should be a patch release out in the next few weeks that will bring the 
> product up to a normal "stable production" level.  Also, there is a very 
> active, and growing, user community, and that definitely helps.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/2/2018 12:45 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
>> On 5/31/2018 3:40 PM, David H. Bailey wrote:
>>> While I'm disappointed that the major thrust of Dorico version 2 seems to 
>>> be scoring to video, I realize that's a very large and growing segment of 
>>> the notation/composition software market so it should be a means to even 
>>> better cementing Dorico's future.
>> 
>> I did the free trial of Dorico 1.  I used it to do a re-transcription of 
>> several orchestral pieces that had multiple movements ("flows" in 
>> Dorico-speak) and some irregular meter / beat patterns.  It was slow going 
>> because of the learning curve but I was struck at how well the music layout 
>> happened, almost completely automatically.  I find myself spending many 
>> hours fiddling with Finale parts to get them to lay out reasonably.  It is 
>> clear to me that Dorico does many things (including layout) better 

[Finale] Fwd: MIDI

[Lawrence David Eden]

I think I found the cure for the problem described below.  Turn off MIDI thru.  
Now I have a new problem:  Finale25 crashes after several minutes with MIDI 
thru off.  

Larry Eden

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Lawrence David Eden 
> Subject: [Finale] MIDI
> Date: June 21, 2018 at 7:17:09 AM EDT
> To: FinaleList 
> Reply-To: 
> 
> I have a question about MIDI with FinaleMac 25/OS 10.13.5.
> 
> I am working on a transposed score that includes trumpets in Bb and horn in 
> F.  When I display the score in concert pitch the notes I enter return a 
> single note sound, but if I display my score in transposed pitch (score 
> showing different key signatures) Finale and my MIDI plays 2 notes at a time 
> that are a minor second apart.  Most annoying!  I prefer to have Finale 
> handle the transposition, so want to use Speedy to enter the notes in 
> transposed pitch….one pitch only.
> 
> Have I missed something in my MIDI setup or is this something that can’t be 
> fixed?  I used SCORE MANAGER to create my score.  My previous version of 
> Finale was Finale 2K11 and it did not behave this way.
> 
> Thanks for any advice that my colleagues on the List are able to provide.
> 
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[Finale] MIDI

[Lawrence David Eden]

I have a question about MIDI with FinaleMac 25/OS 10.13.5.

I am working on a transposed score that includes trumpets in Bb and horn in F.  
When I display the score in concert pitch the notes I enter return a single 
note sound, but if I display my score in transposed pitch (score showing 
different key signatures) Finale and my MIDI plays 2 notes at a time that are a 
minor second apart.  Most annoying!  I prefer to have Finale handle the 
transposition, so want to use Speedy to enter the notes in transposed 
pitch….one pitch only.

Have I missed something in my MIDI setup or is this something that can’t be 
fixed?  I used SCORE MANAGER to create my score.  My previous version of Finale 
was Finale 2K11 and it did not behave this way.

Thanks for any advice that my colleagues on the List are able to provide.

Larry Eden
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[Finale] Thanks

[Lawrence David Eden]

Many thanks and much respect to my colleagues on the Finale List who took the 
time to offer solutions to my “Finale Crisis du Jour.”  Your answers are most 
helpful!

Larry Eden
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[Finale] Dynamics placement

[Lawrence David Eden]

Listers,

I am using Finale 25 on a Mac running OS 10.13.5.

My dynamics are being automatically  placed directly on the note head instead 
of under.  How do I fix this?

Thanks,

Larry Eden
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[Finale] Meta tool dynamics

[Lawrence David Eden]

Dear Listers,

How do I change a meta tool dynamic?  For example:  the  dynamic can be 
triggered by typing the number 1 plus a mouse click.  I want to change the “1” 
to a different number.  Is this possible?

Thanks,

Larry Eden



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Re: [Finale] Score and Parts

[Lawrence David Eden]

Thanks for the suggestions, Robert.  I will try them all.  

Larry

> On May 18, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Robert Patterson <rob...@robertgpatterson.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Larry,
> 
> You can use the File->Print dialog to print score, parts, or any
> combination thereof. The Finale 25 print dialog is far from perfect but it
> is usable.
> 
> Your title problem sounds like it could be file corruption. Do you see the
> problem when you open the file fresh immediately after starting Finale?
> 
> For showing file names on parts, I suggest turning the global setting "Show
> Name in Parts" off. Then apply a staff style to the first bar to turn it on
> for the first bar.
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Lawrence David Eden <lde...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Finale 25
>> Max OS 10.13.4
>> 
>> Dear Listers,
>> 
>> I am still confused about how to get my parts to the printer.  When I used
>> Finale 2011, I printed my parts directly from the “Edit Parts” menu and it
>> worked fine.  In Finale 25, this does not work.
>> What is the correct procedure for getting my score divided into parts and
>> sent to the printer?  Are we back to extracting parts or should “generate
>> parts” give me a printer ready document?
>> 
>> Another Question:  I noticed that titles from previous arrangements are
>> finding their way into new pieces.  For example:  I arranged a "Trumpet
>> Voluntary."  I closed this document then opened a different arrangement and
>> the title showed up on my new piece as “Trumpet Voluntary.”  Is there a fix
>> that I am overlooking?
>> 
>> 
>> Final Question:  every staff in my parts has the abbreviated instrument
>> name in the margin.  While I want the instrument name on each part, I only
>> need it to appear once.  I am looking for a global fix.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any light you Finale mavins can shed.
>> 
>> Larry Eden
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[Finale] Score and Parts

[Lawrence David Eden]

Finale 25
Max OS 10.13.4

Dear Listers,

I am still confused about how to get my parts to the printer.  When I used 
Finale 2011, I printed my parts directly from the “Edit Parts” menu and it 
worked fine.  In Finale 25, this does not work.
What is the correct procedure for getting my score divided into parts and sent 
to the printer?  Are we back to extracting parts or should “generate parts” 
give me a printer ready document?

Another Question:  I noticed that titles from previous arrangements are finding 
their way into new pieces.  For example:  I arranged a "Trumpet Voluntary."  I 
closed this document then opened a different arrangement and the title showed 
up on my new piece as “Trumpet Voluntary.”  Is there a fix that I am 
overlooking?


Final Question:  every staff in my parts has the abbreviated instrument name in 
the margin.  While I want the instrument name on each part, I only need it to 
appear once.  I am looking for a global fix.



Thanks in advance for any light you Finale mavins can shed.

Larry Eden
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[Finale] thanks

[Lawrence David Eden]

Dear Listers,

I have learned so many things from this Group.  I have been a Finale user since 
Version 3.5 and the lessons taught on this List have been helpful many times.  
Despite our collective griping, Finale continues to prove itself capable.

Thanks for all the clear and concise answers that you mavens continually supply.

Larry Eden
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Re: [Finale] Finale doesn't change key signatures correctly.

[Lawrence David Eden]

 The solution can be found in Document Options/key signatures.  This is in 
Finale 25.  IIRC, earlier versions are similar.

Larry Eden





> On May 10, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Michael Edwards  wrote:
> 
> Hallo.
> 
> I have a problem in Finale with changing key signatures.  There are two 
> basic options in Finale for this - to cancel the old key signature (partially 
> or entirely) with naturals before inserting the new one, or just inserting 
> the new one.
> I always use the former option for this - the older, traditional method - 
> but Finale usually doesn't do this correctly, and I'm wondering if this is a 
> known problem and if there is anything I can do about it.
> As I'm sure most here would know, you cancel the entire old key signature 
> if you go from sharps to flats or vice-versa; but if you go from sharps to a 
> smaller sharp signature or flats to a smaller flat signature, you cancel only 
> the flats or sharps in the old signature that won't be in the new one.  And 
> if you are going from a smaller to a larger signature of the same type, then, 
> and only then, do you have no naturals at all.
> However, most of the time, I find that Finale puts in all the naturals 
> for the entire old signature regardless - sometimes even in the last case I 
> mentioned where none are needed.
> To make things more complicated, it sometimes seems to do things 
> correctly, which is why I just said "most of the time".  That seems to 
> suggest that there are unknown, invisible circumstances in each situation 
> that govern whether this problem occurs or not.  In a case where it does it 
> incorrectly, though, no amount of tweaking or re-doing it seems to make any 
> difference.
> This seems such an obvious problem that I would find it incredible that 
> it has not, over all the years Finale has being going, been noticed and 
> corrected.
> (To forestall anyone asking, yes, I have tried different settings in the 
> menu item that controls key signature changes.  It does change some 
> behaviour, but not in a way that is correct according to the normal rules for 
> changing key signatures, as I described above.)
> 
> Is this a known problem, and is there a remedy, please?  Or am I possibly 
> doing something wrong that I just don't know about?
> Thank you.
> 
> Michael Edwards.
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Re: [Finale] Showing Dc al Fine etc on all parts

[Lawrence Yates]

Thanks all.


On 24 April 2018 at 12:26, Christopher Smith <christopher.sm...@videotron.ca
> wrote:

> Yes, the plugin Global Staff Attributes. You can edit anything that
> appears in the Staff Attributes all at once for all staves, or only on
> certain staves, as you wish.
>
> Christopher
>
> > On Apr 24, 2018, at 6:59 AM, Lawrence Yates <yateslawre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you - that's it!
> >
> > It's solved my immediate problem but I've had to go through each
> individual
> > part (the music was needed for this afternoon) but is there a way to do
> > this universally?  I'm sorry, I have gone on about this before but can't
> > find my records.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > On 24 April 2018 at 11:55, Marcello Noia <marcellon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Could be on Staff properties menu?
> >>
> >> Il 24/04/2018 12:37, Lawrence Yates ha scritto:
> >>> Please could someone remind me how to change the default that DCs etc
> >> don't
> >>> appear on parts.  (Asap)
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Lawrence
> >>>
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Re: [Finale] Showing Dc al Fine etc on all parts

[Lawrence Yates]

Thank you - that's it!

It's solved my immediate problem but I've had to go through each individual
part (the music was needed for this afternoon) but is there a way to do
this universally?  I'm sorry, I have gone on about this before but can't
find my records.

Thanks again.

On 24 April 2018 at 11:55, Marcello Noia <marcellon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Could be on Staff properties menu?
>
> Il 24/04/2018 12:37, Lawrence Yates ha scritto:
> > Please could someone remind me how to change the default that DCs etc
> don't
> > appear on parts.  (Asap)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Lawrence
> >
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[Finale] Showing Dc al Fine etc on all parts

[Lawrence Yates]

Please could someone remind me how to change the default that DCs etc don't
appear on parts.  (Asap)

Cheers,

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Re: [Finale] Macros

[Lawrence David Eden]

Ouch!  I misread the ad I linked.  Sorry for the (dare I say it…) fake news.

Larry

> On Apr 7, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Martin Nickless <mnnickl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Where do you click if your a windows user ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 7 Apr 2018, at 17:44, "j...@thomastudios.com" <j...@thomastudios.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Um, I beg to differ Larry.  I also use KB and unfortunately, there is no 
>> Windows version and nothing for Windows mentioned anywhere on the website.
>> 
>> 
>> ***
>> J D Thomas
>> ThomaStudios
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 4:40 AM, Lawrence David Eden <lde...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been using Keyboard Maestro with Finale.  I am on a Mac, but the 
>>> program is also available for Windows:  
>>> Keyboard Maestro 4 Documentation: Windows 
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=2=0ahUKEwjK16TpiajaAhVr6YMKHQ86BjoQFgg4MAE=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.keyboardmaestro.com%2Fdocumentation%2F4%2Fwindows.html=AOvVaw1qKc6wgwffriPv4FN7HKWy>
>>> https://www.keyboardmaestro.com/documentation/4/windows.html
>>> Windows. Welcome Window; Macros Window; Tutorial; Macro Group Editor; Macro 
>>> Editor Window; Recording Window; Program Switcher Window; Window Switcher 
>>> Window; Clipboard Switcher Window; Clipboard History Switcher Window; 
>>> Preferences Window; Preferences General Pane; Preferences Web Server Pane 
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> Larry Eden
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Martin Nickless <mnnickl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi there anyone recommend a good third party macro programs for 
>>>> windows/finale 
>>>> Martin
>>>> 
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Re: [Finale] Macros

[Lawrence David Eden]

I have been using Keyboard Maestro with Finale.  I am on a Mac, but the program 
is also available for Windows:  
Keyboard Maestro 4 Documentation: Windows 

https://www.keyboardmaestro.com/documentation/4/windows.html
Windows. Welcome Window; Macros Window; Tutorial; Macro Group Editor; Macro 
Editor Window; Recording Window; Program Switcher Window; Window Switcher 
Window; Clipboard Switcher Window; Clipboard History Switcher Window; 
Preferences Window; Preferences General Pane; Preferences Web Server Pane ...

Hope this helps,

Larry Eden




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> 
> Hi there anyone recommend a good third party macro programs for 
> windows/finale 
> Martin
> 
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Re: [Finale] Speedy note entry

[Lawrence Yates]

I'm on Windows Fin25 and cannot replicate this problem.  Everything works
fine for me.

Sorry,

Lawrence (Yates)

On 14 March 2018 at 13:02, Lawrence David Eden <lde...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> The crisis du jour:
> Mac running OS 10.13.3 with Finale 25.
>
>
> I am trying to enter a piece into Finale.  I am copying Trumpet 1 in Bb
> and so I am showing my score with transpositions.  When I try to enter the
> notes using Speedy, Finale plays the concert pitch and the transposed pitch
> at the same time.
>
> The issue disappears if I display the score in concert pitch.
>
> Question:  is this a feature or can I still enter notes in transposed
> pitch and hear only the note I entered?  Is there something I have selected
> that will cause this problem?
>
> I never had this issue with earlier versions of Finale.
>
> Thanks,
>
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[Finale] Speedy note entry

[Lawrence David Eden]

Greetings,

The crisis du jour:  
Mac running OS 10.13.3 with Finale 25.


I am trying to enter a piece into Finale.  I am copying Trumpet 1 in Bb and so 
I am showing my score with transpositions.  When I try to enter the notes using 
Speedy, Finale plays the concert pitch and the transposed pitch at the same 
time.  

The issue disappears if I display the score in concert pitch.

Question:  is this a feature or can I still enter notes in transposed pitch and 
hear only the note I entered?  Is there something I have selected that will 
cause this problem?

I never had this issue with earlier versions of Finale.

Thanks,

Larry Eden
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Re: [Finale] [OT] article: notation for electroacoustic/digital media

[Lawrence David Eden]

Congrats on your achievement, Jef.

> On Mar 8, 2018, at 4:07 PM, SN jef chippewa  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> sooo yeah.  finally got around to starting to commit some of this 
> music notation stuff in my head to "paper".  perhaps of interest to 
> some here.  was published in the latest issue of the online journal 
> eContact!
> 
> Typology and Problematics of Fixed Notation for the Representation of 
> Electroacoustic and Digital Media: Preamble; Part I. Waveform display 
> notation
> http://econtact.ca/19_3/chippewa_notation-waveform.html
> 
> i also wrote the editorial... and i think it is one of my best in a long time
> http://econtact.ca/19_3/editorial.html
> 
> enjoy!
> jef
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Re: [Finale] Finale Tab Bar

[Lawrence David Eden]

Listers,

I have never used tabs with Finale and don’t really know how they would improve 
my workflow…..but I want to learn.  Please send me and others some examples of 
how you use tabs.

Thanks,

Larry Eden



> On Mar 6, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Robert Patterson  
> wrote:
> 
> Anne,
> 
> I have tried every permutation of drag and drop  of one window on another
> that I can think if (on Mac), with no effect. The Window->Merge Windows
> technique works for me.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Anne Erickson  wrote:
> 
>> Robert - with several Finale files open are you able to drag and drop one
>> on top of the other until the header becomes active and the top file
>> becomes a tab alongside the bottom file?
>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Robert Patterson <
>> rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just discovered that Finale now has tabs. I can't believe I never
>> noticed
>>> them before. The issue is I can't figure out how to opening anything
>> useful
>>> in a new tab. If I show the tab overview and click on the new tab icon,
>> it
>>> opens a new untitled doc in the new tab. If there's a way to replace it,
>> I
>>> can't tell.
>>> 
>>> I'd like to be able to open different part views and different docs in
>>> different tabs. Does anyone know the trick?
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[Finale] Staff names

[Lawrence David Eden]

Fin 25. Mac OS High Sierra

Dear Listers,

Here is a screen shot of my file.  Notice that Trpt 1 and Hn show up in the 
middle of the score.   How do I fix this?

Thanks,

Larry Eden
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[Finale] Part names

[Lawrence David Eden]

Dear Listers,

I created a chart using FinaleMac 25.  The arrangement was for brass quintet.  
The horn part had the abbreviated instrument name at the beginning of each 
staff.  The other parts did not include part names at the beginning of each 
staff.  I want the part name to be displayed at the top of the individual parts 
only.

How do I remove the staff names from the horn part?

Thanks,
Larry Eden
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[Finale] PRINTING PARTS

[Lawrence David Eden]

FinaleMac 25. Mac mini running 10.13.2 (High Sierra)

Dear Listers,

Finale is displaying strange behavior that I don’t understand.  

I automatically generate parts for my arrangement.
When I go to print,   (I write for brass quintet and needed a copy of the tuba 
part.)  I select EDIT PARTS and select TUBA from the list.  Finale25 opens the 
Trumpet 2 part instead of tuba.

In my previous version of Finale (2k11) that is all I needed to do to print 
parts.  Go to EDIT PARTS and select the part I wanted to print and Finale 
printed that part.
In Finale25, this doesn’t work.  Instead I have to EXTRACT PARTS in order to 
print the part I want.  Do we no longer print from our generated parts?

Is this a new “feature” of Finale25 or am I making a mistake somewhere along 
the line?

Thanks for helping,

Larry Eden
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[Finale] Font question

[Lawrence David Eden]

Listers,

FinaleMac 25. Mac OS High Sierra

I created the file in question with an earlier version of Finale…probably 
FinMac2K7.  When I open the file using Fin25 some of my text expressions are 
displaying as individual boxes with a ? In each one. The expressions seem to be 
tempo markings.  Clearly, I have a font problem, but I don’t know how to fix 
it.  

I would appreciate any help that you, my colleagues, can offer.

Thanks,

Larry Eden
M Street Brass Quintet
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[Finale] Copy and paste

[Lawrence David Eden]

Fellow Listers,

I recently started using FinaleMac 25 (I upgraded from 2K11) and I have a 
question about copy and paste.
Finale seems to be applying an octave transposition when I paste.  I don’t know 
why this is, but I want it to stop.
Clearly, I have something set wrong in my program options…or is it something 
else?

I look forward to reading your replies and wish you all a fine holiday season.

Larry Eden
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[Finale] FinMac25

[Lawrence David Eden]

Listers,

I am new to Finale 25.  I recently upgraded from FinMac2K11.
 
Question:  Are there options (like there use to be) for the appearance of the 
Main Tool Palette?  I know that I can create a Tool Set, but I miss the divider 
line that used to run up the middle of the palette, and the choice of icon 
style.

Thanks,

Larry Eden
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[Finale] trying out FinMac25

[Lawrence David Eden]

Fellow Listers,

I have no MIDI playback from my trial version of Finale25.  I can only hear 
files when played vie my Mac’s speakers.  Music scrolls but no sounds.

It looks like Finale25 imported my MIDI setup from Finale 2K11.

Please advise as I would really like to test drive Fin25.

Have I left something out?

2K11 plays back perfectly through MIDI and a stereo audio system.

Thanks,

Larry Eden
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Re: [Finale] Amiga lives? Or a blast from the past?

[Lawrence David Eden]

I had an Amiga 2000 back in the 80s.
I switched to Mac because I wanted to run better notation software.  In my 
Amiga days, I used Deluxe Music Construction Set.

Larry Eden






> On Oct 4, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Raymond Horton  wrote:
> 
> Darn, I hate that! I dictate and it is correct on the screen, but when I
> hit send I see it change, making me sound like an idiot. The last sentence
> should be "any Amiga veterans here?"
> 
> On Oct 4, 2017 2:16 PM, "Raymond Horton"  wrote:
> 
>> http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/a27437/
>> amiga-2017-a1222-tabor/?src=nl=pop=nl_pnl_news=100417
>> 
>> I never owned an Amiga, but when I was getting into computing for music
>> back around 1990, I heard a lot about them. I was told, at the time, that
>> all the musicians in New York City used Amiga. Any Omega veterans here?
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[Finale] page layout

[Lawrence David Eden]

I need a few answers regarding page layout.  I am using Finale 2011 on a Mac 
Mini.  My OS X version is 10.11.6 El Capitan.  
Lately, my generated parts are needing a lot of tweaking.  My first measure is 
indented too much, and my dynamics are being placed directly on top of notes 
instead of underneath them.
I don’t know if these annoying issues are related to an older version of Finale 
running on a modern OS, but I am allowing for this possibility.

I write mostly for Brass Quintet.  Can someone suggest good page layout margin 
numbers for me to try?  

Larry Eden 
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Re: [Finale] Changing default page layout

[Lawrence Yates]

Thanks for your help regarding default files.

It seems that there are two default files - one is in "defaults" - this one
changes the "new file" default.

The other is under "document styles" and this is the one I missed - it
changes the defaults when new files are created using the setup wizard.

Thanks again to all who responded.

On 17 September 2017 at 00:33, Dr. Ben @ Ayotte Music <ayottemu...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi, Lawrence.
>
> In Finale 25, the default templates are found here:
> C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\MakeMusic\Finale\Music Files\Default
> Files\Maestro Font Default.ftmx
>
> C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\MakeMusic\Finale\Music Files\Default
> Files\Jazz Font Default.ftmx and
>
> C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\MakeMusic\Finale\Music Files\Default
> Files\Handwritten Default.ftmx
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Cordially,
> Benjamin
>
> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Lawrence Yates <yateslawre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Could someone please tell me how to change the default page layout in
> > Finale 25.  I can't find a default file to change and the help file only
> > seems to refer to changes to individual document.
> >
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[Finale] Changing default page layout

[Lawrence Yates]

Hi folks,

Could someone please tell me how to change the default page layout in
Finale 25.  I can't find a default file to change and the help file only
seems to refer to changes to individual document.

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Re: [Finale] Auto save not working

[Lawrence David Eden]

When this happened to me, I had to “remind” Finale where to save my backups.  

Hope this is a useful clue in solving your issue.

Larry Eden







> On Sep 5, 2017, at 11:51 AM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Auto save seems not to be working.  Anyone have ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> Chuck Israels
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Re: [Finale] Dorico

[Lawrence David Eden]

I agree!  Go for it, David.

Larry Eden


> On Sep 2, 2017, at 5:31 AM, SN jef chippewa  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> david, it sounds to me like you should write an article or blog entry 
> comparing the pros and cons of the three programmes ;-)
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Re: [Finale] VOT

[Lawrence]

Overdunderer or overrule. Unsure of spelling of both - you can check. 
Information from my Dutch neighbours

Cheers,
Lawrence. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Aug 2017, at 8:41 am, Michael Edwards <mjedwa...@foxall.com.au> wrote:
> 
> [Barbara Touburg:]
> 
>> What is the Dutch translation for "override"? I really can't find any.
>> It seems that it doesn't exist in my language. Thanks!
> 
>  Google Translate just seems to give "override", so it does seem a 
> bit of a puzzle (it seems unlikely that the Dutch is also "override", so 
> this may be a way for Google Translate to draw a blank).  But does the 
> ancillary information given further on the page I saw give you any ideas 
> that seem right? - here:
> 
>   https://translate.google.com.au/?hl=en=wT#en/nl/override
> 
> Michael Edwards.
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Re: [Finale] Just bought Finale - is downloadable manual available (or third-party books on Finale)?

[Lawrence David Eden]

Michael,

The help files are within the Finale application, in the menu bar.  (I am on 
FinaleMac 2K11) 

Larry





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> 
>  Thanks for that, Lawrence and David.
>  Lawrence, would you mind please giving me a link for the help file 
> section you mentioned?  I tried looking around on the Finale site, but 
> might have been looking in the wrong area or possibly even the wrong 
> site.
>  David, I'll make a note of those books and see if I can find them.
>  I will be glad if I am able to get answers here.  But my purpose 
> in wanting a manual was twofold: I would have something to refer to when 
> I'm not on the Internet and able to post here; and also I do expect to 
> have dozens and dozens of probably quite elementary questions, and it 
> would save a lot of posting of fiddly little questions here (which have 
> probably been posted dozens of times before) if I was able to find out 
> at least the more basic things on my own.
> 
> Michael Edwards.
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Re: [Finale] Just bought Finale - is downloadable manual available (or third-party books on Finale)?

[Lawrence David Eden]

Finale has a great help file section.  That is the only user manual that I 
use…and when I can’t figure things out, I ask my colleagues on this List.  As 
far as I know, a printed manual is not available.  If I am mistaken, my fellow 
Finale Listers will certainly correct me.

Larry Eden







> On Aug 4, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Michael Edwards  wrote:
> 
> Hallo.
> 
>  After many years of considering which music notation software to 
> buy, and a decade or more of forgetting entirely about notation 
> software, I have finally bought Finale.  I have been on this mailing 
> list earlier on (possibly still am but my account was turned off, and I 
> have started a new one), and posted quite often for a couple of years, 
> but may well be long since forgotten by now.
>  Of course there are many things about Finale I will need to find 
> out, and I hope I can ask about some of them here.
>  But perhaps a reply to my first question will save me from having 
> to ask many future questions here.  It is simply this: is there an 
> up-to-date user manual I can download from anywhere?  The most recent 
> one I found was from 2009, and, while I expect a lot of information 
> there will still apply, I expect quite a bit will have changed also.  I 
> do not have Internet access at home - only when at my mother's or at the 
> local library - so I will not be able to read the on-line manual at home 
> - only at my mother's, because I cannot install and use Finale on the 
> library computers.
>  So am I likely to find a current manual anywhere?  Or can I ask 
> MakeMusic to mail me a paper copy?  Or, failing that, are there any 
> third-party reference books published on how to use Finale (preferably 
> referring to the current version)?
>  Thank you.
> 
> Michael Edwards.
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Re: [Finale] Tuplet in 6/8

[Lawrence]

I've seen both. Personally I prefer the duplet.  I did a concert last year and 
the composer (Elgar) used dotted quavers - it threw the young inexperienced 
players beside me.  As other have said, both seem acceptable. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 Jul 2017, at 6:04 pm, Michael Lawlor  wrote:
> 
> Both are valid and which you choose is down to which you think will get 
> the best result according to the context and style of the piece and 
> players involved.
> 
> Michael Lawlor
> 
> 
>> On 05/07/2017 18:00, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I am engraving a piece that is in 6/8.  There are places where the dotted
>> quarter beat is divided into 2.  I've seen scores where that is notated with
>> 2 dotted eighth notes and I've seen notated as a 2 eighth note tuplet.
>> Which is correct or can either be used?  Thanks to anyone who can offer
>> their advice.
>> 
>> Lee Dengler
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[Finale] Mac OS

[Lawrence David Eden]

Dear Listers,

Can anyone tell me if Finale 2K11 is compatible with the Sierra operating 
system?  (I am currently running El Capitan with a small playback restriction.)

Thanks,

Larry Eden
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[Finale] Garritan

[Lawrence Yates]

Hi,

Ive just installed Finale 25 (Windows) on a new machine and once again,
Gariitan doesn't seem to be there.  The last time I did this I completely
re-installed Finale to remedy this.  Is there any other way of doing this
please.

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Re: [Finale] Text enclosed in a box.

[Lawrence Yates]

Thanks Christopher,  I'm sure I used to do it in a much easier way than
that.  It's to enclose a set of details at the top of the first page
including several text inserts (date, modification, duration etc.)  I'm
sure that in the past I simply used to draw a rectangle around everything,
although maybe I dreamt that.

Thanks.

On 1 May 2017 at 12:50, Christopher Smith <christopher.sm...@videotron.ca>
wrote:

> Two ways. Text Tool, then click Standard Frame in the Text menu and add a
> line thickness (4.5 EVPUs is what I use often.)
>
> Or Expression Tool, create the expression and then mess with Enclosure
> Shape until you get what you want.
>
> The only advantages to the Text Tool method are it can be page attached,
> and it has better text formatting possibilities. The advantages to the
> Expression Tool method are it can be easily inserted more than once if you
> ever need it multiple times, it automatically attaches to the staff (though
> depending on what you need it for, that can be a disadvantage), and if you
> need several different ones you can duplicate it and simply edit the text
> instead of recreating the enclosure every time.
>
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> > On May 1, 2017, at 6:34 AM, Lawrence Yates <yateslawre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry to trouble you with so lame a question but in Finale 25 how do I
> > enclose text in a box please?  I have done this many times in the past in
> > previous versions but now have a complete mental block.  I can't find any
> > reference in the manual because I don't know what terminology it uses for
> > this.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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[Finale] Text enclosed in a box.

[Lawrence Yates]

Hi,

Sorry to trouble you with so lame a question but in Finale 25 how do I
enclose text in a box please?  I have done this many times in the past in
previous versions but now have a complete mental block.  I can't find any
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Re: [Finale] Problems emailing musx files

[Lawrence Yates]

For what it's worth, I've had no trouble sending or receiving musx files
using gmail.

Lawrence


>
> > ==
> >
> > I asked the university IT folks if we can just allow the musx file to go
> through, to make an exception with this file type. It came back that it’s
> not the file type, but "the issue does not seem to be the file extension,
> but the META-INF portions of the file being seen as java executables. I
> will submit a ticket to Microsoft about this mis-identification.”
> >
> > So we wait, and I can’t send musx files as attachments. Zipping doesn’t
> help. I tried sending the file from a different email account, but to no
> avail.
> >
> > MakeMusic support suggests export the file to Music XML, but for some
> work I need it to appear exactly as I have worked it out in the Finale file.
> >
> > Has anyone else had this problem? Found a solution? Thanks in advance
> for your help.
> >
> > (Note: I’m on the digest, so I’d appreciate if you can also reply to me
> directly).
> >
> >
> > Dr. Andrew Levin
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> > Associate Professor of Music
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25 Octaves

[Lawrence Yates]

Thank you, it's sorted now I think - it was, as several have suggested, the
default "instrument ranges" that needed to be unchecked.

Thanks,

Lawrence

On 10 April 2017 at 21:25, Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Lawrence,
>
> This probably has something to do with the way the new Finale handles note
> entry at concert pitch instead of transposed pitch.  For instance, bass
> violin notes now enter at their real pitches but get written an octave
> higher.  Kind of confusing, but there are ways to set preferences that
> control this, and there are options.  I had the same experience at first,
> and I’m not sure what I did to control it - away from Finale at the
> moment.  Maybe you will get better guidance from others.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Lawrence Yates <yateslawre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just bought Finale 25 Windows.
> >
> > I've had a couple of passages somehow being transposed up an octave
> without
> > any input from me.  Fortunately I've spotted them so far but this could
> be
> > disastrous should I miss them.
> >
> > Is this a known fault or am I doing something stupid?  (Never had this
> > problem in any other version of Finale).  The current problem was in a
> > bassoon part which I entered correctly.  When I changed to look at the
> > score in scroll view it was transposed up the octave.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Lawrence
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25 Octaves

[Lawrence Yates]

Thanks!  I would never have thought of that!

Cheers,

Lawrence

On 10 April 2017 at 21:55, Darcy James Argue <djar...@icloud.com> wrote:

> Turn off “Respect Instrument Ranges When Copying or Changing Instruments”
> in Preferences > Edit, and write a sternly-worded email to MakeMusic asking
> them why on Earth they ever decided to make this box checked by default.
>
> Cheers,
>
> — DJA
> -
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>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 2017, at 4:20 PM, Lawrence Yates <yateslawre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just bought Finale 25 Windows.
> >
> > I've had a couple of passages somehow being transposed up an octave
> without
> > any input from me.  Fortunately I've spotted them so far but this could
> be
> > disastrous should I miss them.
> >
> > Is this a known fault or am I doing something stupid?  (Never had this
> > problem in any other version of Finale).  The current problem was in a
> > bassoon part which I entered correctly.  When I changed to look at the
> > score in scroll view it was transposed up the octave.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
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[Finale] Finale 25 Octaves

[Lawrence Yates]

Hi,

I've just bought Finale 25 Windows.

I've had a couple of passages somehow being transposed up an octave without
any input from me.  Fortunately I've spotted them so far but this could be
disastrous should I miss them.

Is this a known fault or am I doing something stupid?  (Never had this
problem in any other version of Finale).  The current problem was in a
bassoon part which I entered correctly.  When I changed to look at the
score in scroll view it was transposed up the octave.

Cheers,

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Re: [Finale] REPEAT SIGN INSIDE A BAR

[Lawrence Yates]

Of course, from at least Finale 2012 there's a plugin under Plugins -
Measures - mid measure repeats which achieves this.

Cheers,

Lawrence

On 29 March 2017 at 18:06, j...@thomastudios.com <j...@thomastudios.com> wrote:

> Lawrence’s idea is a good one.  But you will have to adjust measure
> numbers after the fact.  Not a big deal tho.
>
> Thanks Lawrence.  I’ll have to file this one away for future reference.
>
> ***
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>
>
> > On Mar 29, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Lawrence Yates <yateslawre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Divide the bar (measure) into two and in the time signature box select
> "use
> > alternative time signature" then add your repeat mark
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Lawrence
> >
> > On 29 March 2017 at 14:40, dr.a.s. weinstangel <dr...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear all;
> >>
> >>
> >> Never encountered this little problem before:
> >>
> >>
> >> How would you go about placing a repeat sign in the middle of a measure?
> >>
> >>
> >> TIA for your help.
> >>
> >>
> >> Dr.A.S.Weinstangel
> >>
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Re: [Finale] REPEAT SIGN INSIDE A BAR

[Lawrence Yates]

Divide the bar (measure) into two and in the time signature box select "use
alternative time signature" then add your repeat mark

Cheers,

Lawrence

On 29 March 2017 at 14:40, dr.a.s. weinstangel <dr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all;
>
>
> Never encountered this little problem before:
>
>
> How would you go about placing a repeat sign in the middle of a measure?
>
>
> TIA for your help.
>
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[Finale] post bouncing

[Lawrence Yates]

Why are my posts being "held for moderation"?

Cheers,

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Re: [Finale] finale 25

[Lawrence Yates]

I've now completely reinstalled Finale and everything seems to be working
now BUT - on playback some of the instruments (descant recorder for
example) seem unaffected by the volume controls in the mixer.  This makes a
bit of a mess of any playback files using these instruments.  Has anyone
else found this and found a solution please?

Lawrence.

On 14 March 2017 at 15:09, Lawrence Yates <yateslawre...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've just bought and installed Finale25 windows.  the programme runs but
> Garritan appears not to be there.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
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[Finale] finale 25

[Lawrence Yates]

Hi,

I've just bought and installed Finale25 windows.  the programme runs but
Garritan appears not to be there.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

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Re: [Finale] Third party big band fonts

[Lawrence David Eden]

Guess I am behind the times, but when Maria Schneider was mentioned my first 
thoughts were of  "Last Tango in Paris.”  :-)

Larry



> On Mar 10, 2017, at 10:31 PM, Christopher Smith 
>  wrote:
> 
> The “Evanescence” book of Maria Schneider’s music was copied using the 
> JazzFont. Most of the defaults included with Finale were pretty close. You 
> have this if you have a version of Finale from the last 15 years.
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 7:37 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi there could somebody suggest or recommend 
>> A third party big band font  
>> That would look hip for example if anybody has the Maria Schneider book of 
>> scores they look great
>> I believe they were produced in Finale 
>> Not keen on Broadway copyist 
>> 
>> Thanks for any help
>> Martin
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[Finale] Finale 25

[Lawrence Yates]

Does there exist somewhere in one place (without having to trawl through a
hundred emails) a list of good reasons for updating  (or not updating) from
Fin2012 to Fin25 (Windows)

Thanks,

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[Finale] backwards tie

[Lawrence David Eden]

Dear Listers,

I want to tie a note across the bar line into a 2nd ending, so I need a 
backwards tie.  (I am using Finale 2K11 on a Mac.)  I forgot how to do this and 
turn to the collective wisdom of my colleagues on the Final List.

Larry Eden
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Re: [Finale] Reliable way to combine multiple files

[Lawrence Yates]

Hi John,

Does Pagemaker still exist?  I always use this programme for lots of things
but the version I had would not work on later versions of windows and I was
unable to find an upgrade.

Cheers,

Lawrence

On 10 December 2016 at 03:40, John Roberts <an...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

> I do this sort of thing a lot, and have always used PageMaker or InDesign
> for the final document, exporting from the individual Finale files via eps
> (in the old days) or pdf (much better). If you don’t own this sort of page
> layout program, do follow Christopher’s advice and find a pdf editor to do
> the job. I’ve never needed one, so I can’t recommend any.
>
> JR
>
>
>
> > On Dec 9, 2016, at 9:30 PM, Christopher Smith <
> christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> > What I would certainly do in your case is print them to PDF without page
> numbers, then compile the individual pages into one PDF with a PDF editor
> that can add page numbers (there are many free or cheap ones).
> >
> > If you were to use the Score Merger you would have terrible problems
> with titles, etc. from the merge process, not to mention baselines and the
> like would be messed up, unless they were scrupulously preserved from one
> document to another, which I am reasonably certain is not the case.
> >
> > Where the Score Merger is useful is when you have to combine two, three
> or four movements of a longer work, where you WANT everything to be
> consistently preserved from one movement to another, and you can mess with
> the movement titles individually. You DON’T want to redo those 200 times.
> >
> > Christopher
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 9, 2016, at 8:29 PM, John Witmer <wit...@nctv.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Robert,
> >> I need your advice. I'm in the process of completing a 200 song
> compendium using Finale 2014.5  When it is finished, (I promised it would
> be ready "early" in 2017), I'll need to merge the individual charts for a
> single document. This is for the sole use of a retirement community, but
> they'll need about 100 copies. I believe I have volunteers who will fund
> the printing, but I need to get good copy.
> >>
> >> Now, is Finale 25 good enough to undertake this task, or should I
> finish it with Finale 2014.5? Either way, I'm afraid it will be a real
> chore. If all else fails, I'll have to print 200 separate charts and
> collate them. This will be hard because I need to print most pages
> "back-to-back" to keep the total size less than an unabridged dictionary.
> >>
> >> Your advice would be gratefully appreciated.
> >> Chordially,
> >> John Witmer
> >> Clemson Downs Retirement Community.
> >>
> >> On 12/9/2016 5:35:12 PM, Robert Patterson <rob...@robertgpatterson.com>
> wrote:
> >> I've been messing with the Score Merger function in Finale 25. It does a
> >> halfway decent job, but
> >>
> >> 1. It fails to copy lyric baseline adjustments (and I would guess
> probably
> >> expression baseline adjustments as well).
> >> 2. It idiotically goes nuts if a bar has too many beats (like a hard
> whole
> >> rest in a 2/4 bar, which is frequently required for L1/L2 parts).
> >> 3. It makes a mess of lyric text.
> >> 4. It doesn't know how to create percussion staves that match the source
> >> file, so percussion is a mess.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know a better way?
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Re: [Finale] Mac OS Sierra

[Lawrence David Eden]

Many thanks to my friends on the Finale List!  I like my version of Finale so I 
will not be updating to OS Sierra.

Larry





> On Oct 24, 2016, at 2:32 PM, timothy price <timothy.pr...@valley.net> wrote:
> 
> Something which I have found to be very useful:  I have partitioned my hard 
> drive into 3 parts.  I have different OS versions on two of them, and on the 
> 3rd I have reserved exclusively to file storage.
> You could keep your old system on one drive, and upgrade on the other as you 
> get to it, and all files stored on the 3rd. Whenever one of my systems gets 
> corrupted badly, I can reload the OS without disturbing my stored files.  
> Course you can make as many partitions as you want.
> 
> 
> tim
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 24, 2016, at 9:58 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote:
> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>> I run Finale 2K11 on a Mac Mini using El Capitan.  If I install the new OS 
>> (Sierra) will Finale 2K11 still run?
>> 
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[Finale] Mac OS Sierra

[Lawrence David Eden]

Listers,

I run Finale 2K11 on a Mac Mini using El Capitan.  If I install the new OS 
(Sierra) will Finale 2K11 still run?

Larry
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Re: [Finale] Individual Instrument Volume Control

[Lawrence Yates]

In finale2012 they're in the mixer - click "window" - "mixer"

Cheers,

Lawrence

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> Finale 2014.5
>
> I am writing a work for choir and organ.  With the dynamics set the same
> for voices and organ, the result via VST Aria Player has the organ
> overpowering the choir.  I can only see overall controls for volume;
> where are the controls for the individual instruments?
>
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Re: [Finale] choosing a printer

[Lawrence David Eden]

On a Mac?  Go to System Prefs and select the printer you want to use.

Larry


> On Sep 25, 2016, at 4:29 PM, Aaron Rabushka  wrote:
> 
> Recently my computer re-set my printer for Finale to print to a OneNote 
> printer. How do  reset it to the printer I was using before? I cannot find 
> anything that does this from the menus or documentation.
> 
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Re: [Finale] Page 1

[Lawrence David Eden]

Thanks!

Larry


> On Jul 26, 2016, at 2:23 PM, David H. Bailey <dhbaile...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> On 7/26/2016 1:53 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote:
>> Listers,
>> 
>> My first page’s left margin is too large.  All other pages have the
>> margin at the size I want.  Can someone remind me how to address only
>> the first page, please?
> 
> Page view, Page Layout Tool, click and drag the margin handle to where 
> you want it.  Save file.  Done.
> 
> Or while in Page Layout Tool, Click on the Page Layout Menu, select Page 
> Margins . . . and be sure Adjust Current Page Only is selected and then 
> set the margin numerically in the Page Margin dialog.
> 
> 
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[Finale] Page 1

[Lawrence David Eden]

Listers,

My first page’s left margin is too large.  All other pages have the margin at 
the size I want.  Can someone remind me how to address only the first page, 
please?
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Re: [Finale] Why Is It So Hard to Add Instruments to an Orchestration?

[Lawrence]

I'm not sure what the problem is but I've never had any difficulty in doing 
what you're trying to achieve. I'm away from my computer at the moment but will 
check tomorrow. 

Cheers

Lawrence

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> On 4 Jun 2016, at 2:08 am, Michael Dutka <mikedu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, folks. Running 2010 on a Macbook pro.
> 
> Orchestrating an opera from a series of piano reductions, which I import
> into a standard orchestra template, with a standard two-stave piano line
> between the singers and the strings (then I delete the piano line when I'm
> done with each number).
> 
> This particular number needed a harp, and since the piano score was a means
> to an end, I just tried to convert the piano line into a harp in the
> instrument list (GM = Orchestral Harp, but under instrument, it wouldn't
> let me plug in a harp, it just came out as Instrument 33). It sounded like
> a flute.
> 
> Created a new harp line using New Staves (with setup Wizard). This time it
> sounded like a harp. Then, in playback, so did the flute. Changed the flute
> to sound like a flute, and the harp sounded like a flute as well.
> 
> Finally, created a whole new orchestra and imported the file, which worked
> after a bit of manipulation. But why is it so difficult to just add a new
> instrument? I had the same issues when I tried to add a solo violin line to
> an orchestration.
> 
> Planning to upgrade soon. Is 2012 any better at that? How 'bout 2014?
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance, and best,
> 
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Re: [Finale] Preferred method for entering notes/etc into finale 2012

[Lawrence Yates]

I echo David's method almost to the letter.

Cheers,

Lawrence

On 17 February 2016 at 19:26, David H. Bailey <dhbaile...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> On 2/17/2016 1:57 PM, Martin Nickless wrote:
> > As a relative newcomer to finale I would like to seek the opinion of
> > people out there and which means They think is the quickest way to
> > input notation etc into finale on the completion of a Pen and paper
> > sketch Do most people tend to have templates already set up for the
> > project they're about to start on ? I use a laptop and a midi
> > keyboard but when I'm away from home can entering notes on the laptop
> > manually also be a fast process also Last one which plug-ins are
> > essential for speed Very best regards thank you Martin
> >
>
> I use speedy entry -- sometimes with a midi keyboard but more frequently
> using the computer's keyboard.  Arrow keys up and down to select the
> pitch, number keys to select the rhythm.  If you switch between using a
> midi keyboard and not using a midi keyboard to enter the music using
> Speedy Entry be sure that the toggle Use Midi Device for input is
> unchecked if you're using only the computer's keyboard or all you'll get
> are rests.
>
> I don't usually use templates, preferring to set each new document up
> precisely for that particular project.  But then I don't usually work on
> projects which have to be "just so" for a particular publisher.
>
> I don't find plug-ins to be helpful for entering the notation -- they're
> great for things after the initial music entry but I find they get in
> the way when I'm in the music entry phase of a project.
>
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Re: [Finale] 2012c, Rebarring into triple meter

[Lawrence Yates]

If you select all and click "retranscribe" this should correct it.

Cheers,

Lawrence

On 11 February 2016 at 09:35, Kenneth Moore <k...@mooremusic.org.uk> wrote:

> On 9/02/2016 20:21, douglas.br...@wayland.wbu.edu wrote:
> > ...
> > When rebarring measures into 3/4 from 2/4, 4/4, or 16/4 on Vista,
> three-beat notes come out as dotted halves.  When doing the same (in the
> same file) on Win10 (and I recall this happening before on Win7, also),
> three-beat notes come out as a half tied to a quarter.  Is there a setting
> to change somewhere?
> I'm pleased to see that you have a solution via the non-intuitive
> mechanism of dotted rests, but my immediate reaction was that the output
> might relate to the two different meaning of 3/4: three quarters or one
> dotted half.
>
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Re: [Finale] 2012c, Rebarring into triple meter

[Lawrence Yates]

I have never had any problem with retranscribe except when triplets are
involved - I don't use it if there are triplets.

Cheers,

Lawrence

On 11 February 2016 at 18:42, Douglas Brown <douglas.br...@wayland.wbu.edu>
wrote:

>
>
> I've never used the retranscribe option before, and since I still have
> some leftover places with unusually-tied notes from before the fix, I'd
> though I'd try it.
>
> When I retranscribe, long notes get an extra 8th note tied to the end, and
> if it is followed by another note, it overlaps the next pitch... in the
> same voice.  I changed the quant settings from 16th down to 32nd and got
> the same result.
>
> I'm not going to mess with it any longer... just some observations to
> report.
>
> Douglas
>
>
>
> > If you select all and click "retranscribe" this should correct it.
>
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Re: [Finale] OT: Laptop accessories

[Lawrence Yates]

I regularly use Finale on my laptop - the only extra I use is a proper
mouse (cordless) because I find the touchpad too awkward to use.

Cheers,

Lawrence

On 5 February 2016 at 23:42, Ryan <ry.squa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I normally use a desktop for my Finale work, but a job has appeared and
> I'll need a laptop to work away from home. If you use a laptop for Finale,
> what accessories do you recommend?
>
> Along with the MacBook, I plan on getting a mini MIDI keyboard, and numeric
> keypad. Not sure I'll need much more (aside from a bag to hold all of it),
> but perhaps there's something else that may be useful?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [Finale] Always skip first ending

[Lawrence Yates]

I've been mucking about with this and the only solution I've come up with
so far is a separate playback file.  Still trying.

Cheers,

Lawrence

On 12 January 2016 at 18:05, Robert Patterson <rob...@robertgpatterson.com>
wrote:

> Is there away to set an ending always to be skipped? I have an optional 1st
> ending that I never want to hear in playback, regardless of "Ignore
> Repeats" settings. The option to skip the ending is not jumping out at me.
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