Re: [Fink-devel] testing needed

2003-04-01 Thread Max Horn
With your latest gnuplot, I got: ... Enable generation of PDF files ... So it *seems* PDF support is built properly now. Also the bogus pdflib.dylib symlink is not present. Cheers, Max --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb:

[Fink-devel] Bogus fields: source2directory, nosource2directory, etc.

2003-03-30 Thread Max Horn
Several packages use fields which do not exist: source2directory nosource2directory nosource3directory In particular, these packages: tcltk-8.4.1-1.info (Jeffrey Whitaker) ispell-german-20011124-1.info (Martin Costabel) tetex-texmf-2.0.2-1.info (Dave Morrison) ncl-4.2.0a27-2.info (Jeffrey

[Fink-devel] Checksum problem

2003-03-30 Thread Max Horn
I just run fink checksums (and I would welcome if all you out there with a big local source archive want to try it, too :-). This is what I got: Checksum of tarball /Volumes/Data/FinkBase/src/default-1.7.tar.bz2 of package mplayer-skin-default-1.7-1 is incorrect. Checksum of tarball

Re: [Fink-devel] XHTML DTDs, SGML catalogs and freetype2

2003-03-29 Thread Max Horn
Am Freitag, 28.03.03 um 23:20 Uhr schrieb Damien Pollet: Hi, So first I posted a package for the XHTML DTDs (to use with emacs psgml as far as I'm concerned). Though these are XML DTDs, I register them to /sw/etc/sgml/catalog.d too since psgml doesn't see to use the XML catalog in

Re: [Fink-devel] More RSS feeds available

2003-03-29 Thread Max Horn
Am Samstag, 29.03.03 um 02:09 Uhr schrieb Ben Hines: On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 04:50 AM, Max Horn wrote: I did mention it just to point out what I now pointed out again above - so far we only posted *major* news announcements to SF.net, for the single reasons that then we usually get

Re: [Fink-devel] More RSS feeds available

2003-03-28 Thread Max Horn
Am Freitag, 28.03.03 um 05:05 Uhr schrieb Ben Hines: On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 05:29 AM, Max Horn wrote: In fact, sf even has a facility that lets you include sf releases right on your pages. So, if someone has time to code it, we might consider using only the sf news, reprogram

Re: [Fink-devel] More RSS feeds available

2003-03-27 Thread Max Horn
Am Donnerstag, 27.03.03 um 08:57 Uhr schrieb Ben Hines: Just noticed, sf offers some more RSS feeds now, for every project: News Releases, News Releases (full text), File Releases, and Summary (with stats). See http://sourceforge.net/export/rss2_project.php?group_id=17203 for the links.

Re: [Fink-devel] Your Windows XP Logo Only Policy

2003-03-25 Thread Max Horn
Err, is there any reason you SPAM the fink-devel mailing list with this??? Please stop doing that! Max --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register

Re: [Fink-devel] crypto tree; legal issues

2003-03-23 Thread Max Horn
Am Sonntag, 23.03.03 um 03:20 Uhr schrieb Ben Hines: On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 03:40 PM, Carsten Klapp wrote: To summarize, I believe a separate crypto tree is still useful in Fink. Even if Apple has purchased a licence or permit to distribute openssl along with Mac OS X, for example,

Re: [Fink-devel] Distfile mirroring and how to bring Fink and Opendarwin closer together.

2003-03-22 Thread Max Horn
Am Samstag, 22.03.03 um 02:52 Uhr schrieb Ben Hines: On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 06:48 AM, David wrote: There are a few issues which need to be addressed, mainly a few alterations to the fink code that have to be carefully discussed. I cannot really decide on them, nor do I know what

[Fink-devel] crypto tree; legal issues

2003-03-22 Thread Max Horn
Changing the subject line as this is now really a different discussion. Ben suggested that we abolish the crypto/ tree. Disclaimer: I didn't originally invent the crypto/ tree thingy, it was there before I even joined Fink. Also note that for me, and also for Ben Hines, there are no legal

Re: [Fink-devel] python and crypto

2003-03-21 Thread Max Horn
Am Freitag, 21.03.03 um 14:32 Uhr schrieb David R. Morrison: Dear fink developers, Because python is now in the crypto tree, everything that depends or builddepends on python should (in principle) be moved to the crypto tree. Around 20 or 25 currently-stable packages would be affected, and

[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.2/unstable/main/finkinfo/libs/perlmods html-template-pm-2.5-1.info,1.1,1.2 http-ghttp-pm-1.07-1.info,1.1,1.2 parse-recdescent-pm-1.80-1.info,1.1,1.2 time-piece-pm-1.08-1.info,1.1,1.2 xml-filter-buffertext-pm-1.00-1.info,1.1,1.2 xml-generator-dbi-pm-0.03-1.info,1.1,1.2 xml-sax-machines-pm-0.4-1.info,1.1,1.2 xml-sax-writer-pm-0.44-1.info,1.1,1.2 xml-xpath-pm-1.12-1.info,1.1,1.2

2003-03-18 Thread Max Horn
Am Dienstag, 18.03.03 um 09:02 Uhr schrieb Christian Schaffner: [...] Log Message: Fixed line endings (Need to check for that too, next time. Could fink validate do that for me?) You mean mac vs. unix line endings in .info files ? Yes I think we could do that, although in theory CVS should be

Re: [Fink-devel] how to rebuild without removing existing src directory

2003-03-18 Thread Max Horn
Am Dienstag, 18.03.03 um 02:54 Uhr schrieb Adam Skwersky: Hi, That's not what I want. I just want to be able to recompile everything and then install everything in one step. That would make the development cycle much easier. Mathias pretty much understood what I wanted to do (skip the

Re: [Fink-devel] JavaSDK virtual pkg needed?

2003-03-17 Thread Max Horn
Am Samstag, 15.03.03 um 23:54 Uhr schrieb Ben Hines: A Java SDK virtual pkg seems to be needed. Apple's 1.4.1 update did not install the headers, causing any package that uses /Library/Java/Home/include or /Library/Java/Home/Headers to fail for any user that installed Java 1.4.1 from software

Re: [Fink-devel] Apple Design Awards (was O'Reilly Mac OS X Innovators Contest)

2003-03-17 Thread Max Horn
FYI David, we (the project leaders) are already pursuing an entry into the Apple Design Awards, in either the open source or the server category. I do not believe the innovation aware is really compatible with Fink. Max --- This SF.net

Re: [Fink-devel] how to rebuild without removing existing src directory

2003-03-17 Thread Max Horn
Am Montag, 17.03.03 um 10:40 Uhr schrieb mathias meyer: to correct myself: of course another 'fink rebuild foo' will delete the source directory. if you want fink only to do parts of unpacking/patching/compiling/installing you would have to edit Engine.pm. this is NOT really recommended but i

Re: [Fink-devel] how to set .cshrc

2003-03-17 Thread Max Horn
Am Montag, 17.03.03 um 23:04 Uhr schrieb David R. Morrison: Hi Max. Well, my idea is that we do something fairly sensible, but then offer the user the chance to see the file we changed and edit it some more if they want. Yeah I understood that was your intention. This non-CLI setup is mainly

Re: [Fink-devel] how to set .cshrc

2003-03-17 Thread Max Horn
Am Freitag, 14.03.03 um 21:13 Uhr schrieb David R. Morrison: [...] case yes) check if source %p/sw/init.csh is already in the .tcshrc How exactly could this be done? Considering that scripts can include arbitrary other scripts? Also, the source statement could be

[Fink-devel] CVS write access / tracker-only members

2003-03-17 Thread Max Horn
Hi folks, Currently all Fink team members at SourceForge.net have full write access to the entire CVS repository. This imposes some problems on us: since everybody gets full power, we can only allow people in that we trust to not mess up anything by accident, or whatever else. For this

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: OpenGL and -flat_namespace with Apple X11

2003-03-13 Thread Max Horn
Am Donnerstag, 13.03.03 um 19:21 Uhr schrieb John Harper: On Wednesday, Mar 12, 2003, at 18:33 US/Pacific, Benjamin Reed wrote: John Harper wrote: Is this the error due to glColorTableEXT etc being multiply defined? If so, that should be fixed in our next release. If you want to test this, try

[Fink-devel] FAQ: packages not in bindist

2003-03-13 Thread Max Horn
We keep getting requests / bug reports due to problems caused by packages missing from the bindist (ghostscript). There is no really useful error message printed in these cases by apt-get / FinkCommander etc. right now... So I think it would be good to at least have a FAQ entry that explains

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.12.1?

2003-03-11 Thread Max Horn
Am Mittwoch, 12.03.03 um 00:48 Uhr schrieb David R. Morrison: When the problems with indexing showed up in fink-0.12.0, I think we agreed that 0.12.0 shouldn't be the basis of a binary distro. I was worried that removing the (un-logged) fix for a previous indexing problem might somehow break

Re: [Fink-devel] Fink distfiles mirror now up

2003-03-10 Thread Max Horn
Am Montag, 10.03.03 um 02:35 Uhr schrieb Alexander Strange: There is now a complete mirror of the Fink package sources available. It's sharing space with DarwinPorts on http://distfiles.opendarwin.org/ and I would appreciate more mirrors of it. You can rsync at

Re: [Fink-devel] Fink distfiles mirror now up

2003-03-10 Thread Max Horn
Am Montag, 10.03.03 um 22:59 Uhr schrieb Alexander Strange: On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 07:31 AM, Max Horn wrote: What do you mean exactly when you talk about features for the mirror ? A mirror is only a dumb file server, so I don't understand what you mean here... I meant things that I

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: packages KDE 3.1 needs before a stable move

2003-03-09 Thread Max Horn
Am Sonntag, 09.03.03 um 23:26 Uhr schrieb Peter O'Gorman: On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 06:16 AM, Ben Hines wrote: Yes. sane-backends includes a whole bunch of scanner drivers which are either known to not work or not known to work. I don't want to see this in stable. .. so document that. A

[Fink-devel] Article about Fink in c't

2003-03-08 Thread Max Horn
The german computer magazine c't (http://heise.de/ct) has an article about Fink in its latest issue 6/2003, p264+265. Sadly it's not online, but see http://heise.de/ct/inhverz/search.shtml?T=finkSuchen=suchen. It's actually quite a glowing review, and presents many nice details. It also

Re: [Fink-devel] Packages with bad MD5s

2003-03-08 Thread Max Horn
Am Sonntag, 09.03.03 um 02:10 Uhr schrieb Martin Costabel: Alexander Strange wrote: [] Checksum of tarball /Users/feanor/sw/src/siag-3.5.2.tar.gz of package siag-3.5.2-5 is incorrect. Does your script perhaps report a bad md5sum also when the source download fails? The copies of

Fwd: [Fink-devel] Epoch

2003-03-06 Thread Max Horn
Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: Von: Max Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Do, 6. Mär 2003 13:14:15 Europe/Berlin An: Ben Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [Fink-devel] Epoch Am Donnerstag, 06.03.03 um 04:12 Uhr schrieb Ben Hines: On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:14 AM, Max Horn wrote

Re: [Fink-devel] system-emacs?

2003-03-06 Thread Max Horn
Am Donnerstag, 06.03.03 um 04:14 Uhr schrieb Ben Hines: On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:42 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: If you want to use the system emacs, don't make it depend on the emacsen-common, and make sure that emacs is called as /usr/bin/emacs. or just let it use either one,

Re: [Fink-devel] gtk+2-2.0.9-3 problems with xfree86-4.3.0-1

2003-03-06 Thread Max Horn
Am Donnerstag, 06.03.03 um 14:54 Uhr schrieb thomas kotzian: I have upgraded xfree86 to 4.3.0 with the xfree86-upgrade script. gtk+2 cannot compile and exits with: checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes checking for XRenderFindFormat in -lXrender... yes checking for XftFontOpen in

Re: [Fink-devel] Epoch

2003-03-05 Thread Max Horn
At 21:56 Uhr -0500 04.03.2003, Kyle Moffett wrote: [...] Exactly, I think that the 'epoch' system is very problematic. Once a package begins using an epoch, it must continue to use the epoch for the remainder of its life, which could be very long, even after many version changes. I doN't see

Re: [Fink-devel] Epoch

2003-03-05 Thread Max Horn
At 17:10 Uhr -0800 04.03.2003, Ben Hines wrote: On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 05:21 AM, Max Horn wrote: At 22:39 Uhr -0800 03.03.2003, Ben Hines wrote: On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 11:38 AM, Justin Hallett wrote: okay %e is great thanks...and I agree, but I think it will be used, I have

Re: [Fink-devel] system-emacs?

2003-03-05 Thread Max Horn
At 18:10 Uhr +0100 05.03.2003, Jorge Acereda Maciá wrote: Shouldn't there be a placeholder for the provided emacs installation? Why? Max --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The debugger for complex code. Debugging

Re: [Fink-devel] Epoch

2003-03-05 Thread Max Horn
At 12:29 Uhr -0500 05.03.2003, Benjamin Reed wrote: Max Horn wrote: But my motivation to agree to this is most definitely not due to what the debian policy says. We are not debian! Sure we can look at how they do things, and if we like it, do it the same way, but I feel in no way bound

[Fink-devel] Re: CVS: fink bootstrap.pl,1.28,1.29

2003-03-04 Thread Max Horn
At 23:29 Uhr -0800 03.03.2003, Alexander Strange wrote: Update of /cvsroot/fink/fink In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv13084 Modified Files: bootstrap.pl Log Message: Fixing bootstrap on darwin/x86 for bbraun co Index: bootstrap.pl

Re: [Fink-devel] fink mirror patch

2003-03-04 Thread Max Horn
At 4:49 Uhr -0500 04.03.2003, Alexander Strange wrote: On Tuesday, March 4, 2003, at 12:39 AM, Ben Hines wrote: - autosync of sources: Need a machine running fink selfupdate-cvs; fink fetch-all; rsync to server every 10 minutes or something similar. Any ideas there? OpenDarwin is going to help

Re: [Fink-devel] Epoch

2003-03-04 Thread Max Horn
At 22:39 Uhr -0800 03.03.2003, Ben Hines wrote: On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 11:38 AM, Justin Hallett wrote: okay %e is great thanks...and I agree, but I think it will be used, I have a number of rc pkgs. It is almost good that it is not documented. It really should not be used except in grave

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink mirror patch

2003-03-04 Thread Max Horn
At 19:23 Uhr -0500 04.03.2003, Alexander Strange wrote: [...] - Are we sure we have the right to mirror the source to any fink package, or could some of them be licensed under licenses that forbid mirroring? Restrictive packages will be removed from the mirror as soon as we have code in

Re: [Fink-devel] Epoch

2003-03-04 Thread Max Horn
At 17:38 Uhr -0500 04.03.2003, Kyle Moffett wrote: On Tuesday, Mar 4, 2003, at 09:01 US/Eastern, Benjamin Reed wrote: Max Horn wrote: E.g. take the example of 5.0-RC1 followed by 5.0. What do you propse should be done here to make it debian version compliant? 4.9 and 5.0 ? or 5.0 and 5.0a

[Fink-devel] Re: CVS: dists/10.2/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11-systemxfree86-4.3.0-1.info,NONE,1.1 xfree86-4.3.0-1.patch,NONE,1.1xfree86-upgrade-20030228-1.info,NONE,1.1

2003-03-03 Thread Max Horn
Ah sarcasm I wasn't aware that we had resolved all the issues with this? And that we agreed to release it to unstable... The discussion on this on fink-devel must have slipped by me. For example, I completly missed all the responses to Masanori's worries regarding the GTK+ 2.0 - 2.2 +

Re: [Fink-devel] Epoch

2003-03-03 Thread Max Horn
At 11:29 Uhr -0700 03.03.2003, Justin Hallett wrote: since I think i was the first to try and use the new Epoch in fink 0.12, I think the docs are very limited and completly unclear. First there should be an example secondly ppl must know to add it to the Splittoffs as well as the Main pkg

Re: [Fink-devel] Epoch

2003-03-03 Thread Max Horn
At 12:26 Uhr -0700 03.03.2003, Justin Hallett wrote: hehe np, I was just listing them for dmalloc to document or to have record of it for others... is there an Epoch version percent expantion var? Yes there is: %e (see PkgVersion.pm, line 136). Cause I think it'd be nice to have if we start using

[Fink-devel] FAQ: Relation to darwinports

2003-03-02 Thread Max Horn
We should add an entry to the FAQ, section 2 Relations with Other Projects that explains how our relations to darwinports / opendarwin.org are... shouldn't we? I keep hearing that question on IRC and the mailing lists. Max --- This sf.net

[Fink-devel] libpng / libpng3 FAQ ?

2003-03-02 Thread Max Horn
Maybe we can add a FAQ item on the libpng / libpng3 issue. I know we are transiting to libpng3 anyway, but for those people in a (semi) broken state already it would be nice if they had a way to find out what is going on and how to get out of it. Also it would be convenient for us: whenever a

Re: [Fink-devel] Periodic tasks?

2003-03-01 Thread Max Horn
At 12:39 Uhr +1300 02.03.2003, Nigel Stanger wrote: I have a package that has some optional monthly and weekly scripts, that would normally be run by the /usr/sbin/periodic script. However, fink doesn't provide any mechanism for plugging into the periodic script list. Normally, you'd just throw

Re: [Fink-devel] Much wrong use of shlibs field

2003-02-27 Thread Max Horn
At 23:06 Uhr -0800 26.02.2003, Ben Hines wrote: Well, pogma at least read this and fixed his package, did anyone else? Anyone else care? Is the shlibs field really that difficult to get? Everyone clear on this? I better not see people updating packages and doing it wrong. :) Welcome in the real

[Fink-devel] Re: libxslt fail

2003-02-27 Thread Max Horn
At 22:54 Uhr -0800 26.02.2003, Ben Hines wrote: I know you said you think it did, but really i don't think it does work without the revision in the BuildDepends: Found Python version 2.3 Warning: Missing libxml2-python Enabling debugger checking for libxml libraries = 2.5.2... configure: error:

[Fink-devel] python23 alpha; epoch support documentation

2003-02-27 Thread Max Horn
At 12:19 Uhr -0800 20.02.2003, Jeff Whitaker wrote: Update of /cvsroot/fink/dists/10.2/unstable/crypto/finkinfo In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv6689 Added Files: python23-2.3-2.info python23-2.3-2.patch Log Message: New upstream (alpha) version. --- NEW FILE: python23-2.3-2.info ---

[Fink-devel] /sw/share/doc

2003-02-25 Thread Max Horn
I just noticed that various packages install multiple directories into /sw/share/doc (I am not talking about splitoffs which also cause this to some extent). For example, xmltv installs both /sw/share/doc/xmltv-0.5.8 and /sw/share/doc/xmltv. Likewise libxml2 (my own package) even installs

Re: [Fink-devel] More on dependencies...

2003-02-25 Thread Max Horn
At 17:13 Uhr -0500 25.02.2003, Kyle Moffett wrote: On Tuesday, Feb 25, 2003, at 11:15 US/Eastern, Max Horn wrote: Hm I wonder why your email client misreads my time zone like that =) [...] Yuck. We have already determined problems with this method, and it seems crude, especially when better

[Fink-devel] gnome-vfs dependencies

2003-02-21 Thread Max Horn
I wonder, are these BuildDepends in gnome-vfs (and gnome-vfs-ssl) really necessary? BuildDepends: pkgconfig, gtk-doc (= 0.9-4), libjpeg, libpng, libtiff, netpbm, audiofile, db3 (= 3.3.11-8), esound, glib, orbit-dev, readline (= 4.3-5), giflib, imlib, gconf-dev, gnome-libs-dev, oaf-dev,

Re: [Fink-devel] A suggestion for the fink package Manager

2003-02-19 Thread Max Horn
At 22:15 Uhr +0100 18.02.2003, David wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hello. I would like to add the fink packager manager itself as a project to Freshmeat. I know that we are already present with the distribution but the package manager itself might be interesting to

Re: [Fink-devel] A suggestion for the fink package Manager

2003-02-19 Thread Max Horn
At 11:27 Uhr +0100 19.02.2003, David wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Mittwoch, Februar 19, 2003, at 09:32 Uhr, Max Horn wrote: snip? Yes. First off, the package manager never was announced widely, and there is no reason to do so with this release. I am not sure

Re: [Fink-devel] openssl097-0.9.7-2

2003-02-17 Thread Max Horn
At 15:42 Uhr +0100 17.02.2003, jfm wrote: hmac.3, mdc2.3, pem.3, rc4.3, ssl.3 and md5.3.openssl097 are real files here, coming from openssl097-dev_0.9.7-2 _ no links, thus in particular breaking your cycle. Look in your deb if they are there _ else something may have gone wrong in your build.

Re: [Fink-devel] index behaviour change (post 0.11.x)

2003-02-16 Thread Max Horn
At 8:09 Uhr -0500 16.02.2003, David R. Morrison wrote: I think it would be useful to have a configuration option governing the index behavior. Sometimes, I am doing a lot of editing of info files, and then I might want to turn the current indexing behavior on (instead of always having to type

Re: [Fink-devel] index behaviour change (post 0.11.x)

2003-02-16 Thread Max Horn
At 16:59 Uhr +0100 16.02.2003, jfm wrote: On Sunday, Feb 16, 2003, at 02:43 Europe/Brussels, Max Horn wrote: ... we could add a fink index foo.info command, which would add the specified .info file(s) to the index. This way, you could just (re)index the files you are working on, avoiding

Re: [Fink-devel] index behaviour change (post 0.11.x)

2003-02-16 Thread Max Horn
At 9:08 Uhr -0800 16.02.2003, Ben Hines wrote: On Sunday, February 16, 2003, at 08:44 AM, Max Horn wrote: At 8:09 Uhr -0500 16.02.2003, David R. Morrison wrote: I think it would be useful to have a configuration option governing the index behavior. Sometimes, I am doing a lot of editing

Re: [Fink-devel] evolution dependency collisions

2003-02-16 Thread Max Horn
At 20:13 Uhr +0100 16.02.2003, thomas kotzian wrote: i wanted to install evolution but there are other packages installed that depend on gtkhtml and evolution wants to have gtkhtml1.1 installed. here is the trace: dpkg -i /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/gnome/

Re: [Fink-devel] evolution dependency collisions

2003-02-16 Thread Max Horn
At 17:27 Uhr -0500 16.02.2003, Alexander Hansen wrote: Actually, there is a runtime issue here too. If you wind up switching gtkhtml1.1 to gtkhtml, then you can't open/reply to messages in Evolution 1.2.x--there is an error message saying words to the effect of HTML component couldn't be

[Fink-devel] gtkhtml

2003-02-16 Thread Max Horn
I just wanted to build gtkhtml to look into the issues mentioned in the evolution dependency collisions thread. I was quite surprised by the result: it wants to install both the gnome 1 and gnome 2 packages, e.g. both gnome-vfs-dev and gnome-vfs2-dev. That seems to be very odd to me.

Re: [Fink-devel] I want Gimp in English!

2003-02-15 Thread Max Horn
At 21:15 Uhr -0700 14.02.2003, Ludwin wrote: My Computer speaks french, and the Gimp software I have just downloaded speaks mainly English. However, there is french as well. I imagine fink can somehow detect that my ibook is in French, so that Gimp shows some cammands in French. But this

Re: [Fink-devel] Fink Documentation revision -- switch to .cshrc?

2003-02-15 Thread Max Horn
I do not mind that much if we change to .tcshrc from a techincal point of view. What I fear, though, is that we also will have some troubles in the transition period. Basically not so advanced users with a .cshrc based setup will start reading about .tcshrc. In the worst case, they may start

Re: [Fink-devel] new package manager release

2003-02-15 Thread Max Horn
At 15:29 Uhr -0500 15.02.2003, David R. Morrison wrote: There have been no updates to the Fink package manager for two weeks, other then Ben Hines' adding 10.2.4 as a recognized OS X version this morning. Max said he wanted to do more things before the next package manager release, but I would

[Fink-devel] index behaviour change (post 0.11.x)

2003-02-15 Thread Max Horn
After suffering from extremely bad fink performance on my iBook in the past couple months (despite the nice improvements recently done), I begin to wonder if maybe we should reconsider our current package DB indexing behavior. The current approach is restricted in its performance by the fact

Re: [Fink-devel] oaf dependency cleanup

2003-02-12 Thread Max Horn
At 23:25 Uhr +0900 12.02.2003, Masanori Sekino wrote: I removed popt, which declares BuildDependsOnly: True, from Depends line of oaf. At the sametime, I added popt to BuildDepends line of following packages: anjuta0.9.99-3 eroaster 2.0.12-2 evolution 1.2.2-2 galeon

Re: [Fink-devel] Problems with CVS commit

2003-02-11 Thread Max Horn
This is called a stale lock, and to get it fixed, one has to submit a suport request (which I will do now). Max --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See!

Re: [Fink-devel] Problems with CVS commit

2003-02-11 Thread Max Horn
At 12:29 Uhr +0100 11.02.2003, Christian Schaffner wrote: On Dienstag, Februar 11, 2003, at 12:19 Uhr, Max Horn wrote: This is called a stale lock, and to get it fixed, one has to submit a suport request (which I will do now). Thanks! Is it ok if i (as a simple fink packager) submit

Re: [Fink-devel] pwlib, openh323 and gnomemeeting

2003-02-10 Thread Max Horn
At 13:08 Uhr -0500 10.02.2003, Pai-Hsiang Hsiao wrote: The good news is, gnomemeeting has been ported to OSX. Cool :-) The bad news is, fink's packages of pwlib and openh323 are out-of-date. Nobody is maintaining them... I am interested in getting these packages to work, so I am

Re: [Fink-devel] the new openssl.

2003-02-08 Thread Max Horn
At 0:02 Uhr -0800 08.02.2003, Ben Hines wrote: On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 08:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How long can I expect the older version to be around? Forever. Calm down. You can go back to the old one. I'll fix your package. However, the old openssl-dev needs to be

Re: [Fink-devel] xfree86 4.3 pre-release package

2003-02-08 Thread Max Horn
At 6:03 Uhr -0700 08.02.2003, jeff whitaker wrote: Max et al: I've pulled the xfree86 package (and the xfree86-base, xfree86-base-threaded upgrades it depends on) from unstable and put them in expermental/jswhit/x11-system. Probably should have put them there in the first place - I apologize

Re: [Fink-devel] Virex ships/overwrites fink libraries

2003-02-08 Thread Max Horn
There are various people on fink-beginners who already installed this and ask for help. Maybe we can enhance the news item to describe how to get out of the situation? Max --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise

Re: [Fink-devel] announcement policy

2003-02-08 Thread Max Horn
At 14:50 Uhr +0100 08.02.2003, David wrote: [...] Actually, Max, Drm and Benjamin will have to make a decision. I would much prefer, that people do not post to the fink-devel list, but send the announcement to me. After I have verified the information in the Mail and maybe even talked to the

Re: [Fink-devel] announcement policy

2003-02-08 Thread Max Horn
At 15:54 Uhr +0100 08.02.2003, David wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Samstag, Februar 8, 2003, at 03:13 Uhr, Max Horn wrote: snip Well the drawbacks of this approach (compared to the advantages you list): Two bottlenecks instead of one (first you

Re: [Fink-devel] announcement policy

2003-02-08 Thread Max Horn
At 3:01 Uhr +0900 09.02.2003, Masanori Sekino wrote: First, I apologize for my announcement, which was made in inappropriate way and surprised you. Masanori, this was definitly not directed at you in particular, and I don't believe you have to apologize. In any case I have no ill bearings

Re: [Fink-devel] GNOME 2 is coming

2003-02-07 Thread Max Horn
Masanori, it's clearly not sufficient to just announce this to three of our mailing lists. We also will need a web page article and news item (properly based on your email). Also this could have been sent to fink-announce... if it had been discussed beforehand... oh well :-) Max

Re: [Fink-devel] Virex ships/overwrites fink libraries

2003-02-07 Thread Max Horn
At 18:12 Uhr -0800 07.02.2003, Ben Hines wrote: This is very bad. Fink users, don't install this. Virex 7.2, free to all .mac members installs: /Volumes/Virex 7.2.dmg/Virex 7.2.pkg 328 % lsbom Contents/Resources/Virex\ 7.2.bom | grep sw ./sw40775 0/80 ./sw/lib40775 0/80

Re: [Fink-devel] xfree86 4.3 pre-release package

2003-02-07 Thread Max Horn
[...] Ben: I figured that the versioned dependency on xfree86-base | xfree86-base-threaded would be temporary, perhaps just for the first revision, in order to allow people to upgrade. I see the logic behind it, but IMHO the costs do not warrant it, so i agree with Ben, this should be removed

Re: [Fink-devel] transition to openssl 0.9.7 - to all who havepackage that depend on openssl

2003-02-06 Thread Max Horn
At 7:50 Uhr +0100 06.02.2003, David wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Donnerstag, Februar 6, 2003, at 01:23 Uhr, Benjamin Reed wrote: (so why that would be the case is beyond me right now). Because they might wish to take advantage of the speed improvements in

Re: [Fink-devel] package manager stable?

2003-02-05 Thread Max Horn
I think 0.11.2 can go to stable. However, I would like to wait a bit more till we release 0.12 - I want to add Ben's epoch support first and test it a little. Max --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM +

Re: [Fink-devel] package manager stable?

2003-02-05 Thread Max Horn
At 15:06 Uhr -0500 05.02.2003, David R. Morrison wrote: On Feb 5,2003 13:01:11 -0700, Justin Hallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I think my cvs patch could make 0.12 as well, I'll add it to the tacker. Do that, then I will review it, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it making it to 0.12. That

Re: [Fink-devel] OT: CPATH C_INCLUDE_PATH don't work for me?

2003-02-05 Thread Max Horn
At 15:53 Uhr -0500 05.02.2003, Jeremy Erwin wrote: On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 03:29 PM, John Clements wrote: This is off-topic, but I'm hoping that someone can point out what an idiot I am. Problem: I can't get gcc to recognize either the CPATH or C_INCLUDE_PATH environment

[Fink-devel] transition to openssl 0.9.7 - to all who have package that dependon openssl

2003-02-05 Thread Max Horn
Please read this if your package currently depends on openssl. The new openssl 0.9.7 is source but not binary compatible. Hence, I renamed openssl-shlibs in it to openssl097-shlibs (as discussed here previously). I will soon commit a change to *all* packages that depends on openssl, with only

Re: [Fink-devel] where to put example source?

2003-02-04 Thread Max Horn
At 18:43 Uhr -0500 04.02.2003, Jeremy Erwin wrote: I am porting a number of libraries that have extensive example code. I have been putting DocFiles: examples/hello/* examples/testgrid/* and the like in my info files, but flattening the directory structure might not be such a great idea. Is

Re: [Fink-devel] XFree86 4.3.0 close

2003-02-01 Thread Max Horn
At 5:52 Uhr -0700 01.02.2003, jeff whitaker wrote: Ben: Thanks for the update. I'm somewhat at a loss of how to proceed with a 4.3.0 package. Since it contains thread support, it should replace both xfree86-base and xfree86-base-threaded. At the same time, I'd like to merge the -base and

Re: [Fink-devel] On dependency engines

2003-01-31 Thread Max Horn
At 12:50 Uhr +0100 31.01.2003, David wrote: On Freitag, Jˆ§nner 31, 2003, at 01:01 Uhr, Max Horn wrote: [...] I think that it would be an excellent idea to use something like a Wiki. If you want I can install such a system on one of the boxen I have authority over. shrug Never got the hang

Re: [Fink-devel] On dependency engines

2003-01-31 Thread Max Horn
OK, my promised second mail will have to wait till tomorrow. I just got home after spending 8 hours in my car, 4 of those standing in one spot on the highway, at -2 degree celsius with no car heating (highway was blocked for hours due to a crash). I really don't feel like anything but sleep

[Fink-devel] openssl woes

2003-01-30 Thread Max Horn
Out openssl package is currently at 0.9.6g. However, both 0.9.6h and 0.9.7 are out for some time now. Naturally I decided to skip directly to 0.9.7. This posed some problems, since the openssl package used to hardcode 0.9.6 into the .dylib filename, and also used 0.9.6 in the compatibility

Re: [Fink-devel] libpng list

2003-01-30 Thread Max Horn
At 14:44 Uhr -0500 30.01.2003, David R. Morrison wrote: Sure, but I think there are really two things going on. 1) If you have an old imlib and are building a package which links libpng3, there is no way you can ever build it correctly. Could somebody explain to me why exactly this is a

Re: [Fink-devel] openssl woes

2003-01-30 Thread Max Horn
At 8:27 Uhr -0500 30.01.2003, David R. Morrison wrote: Well, Max, I like your strategy and I agree it would be a great application of the shlibs project. However, this part of the shlibs project isn't implemented yet! I have to write the code and integrate it into Fink, and I haven't had time

Re: [Fink-devel] Where is search.h

2003-01-30 Thread Max Horn
At 16:02 Uhr -0600 30.01.2003, Dierk Polzin wrote: Why is search.h missing from darwin??? Where can I find it to run twalk?? You can't. If you do a man twalk the man page for the missing functions comes up -- tsearch, tfind, tdelete, and twalk are all listed as being available on that

[Fink-devel] On dependency engines

2003-01-30 Thread Max Horn
Hi folks, in the recent months, the problems with Fink's dependency engine (and dpkg's, and the way they interact) have become more and more apparent. Various problems are basically impossible to overcome with the current design, hence it seems we need a new full fledged dependency engine.

Re: [Fink-devel] Gnome, imlib and window managers

2003-01-29 Thread Max Horn
Uhm, so what am I supposed to do for sawfish or windowmaker (both depend on libpng)? Obviously just removing the dependency is wrong. Max --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2

Re: [Fink-devel] gtkhtml vs. gtkhtml1.1

2003-01-29 Thread Max Horn
At 17:12 Uhr -0500 29.01.2003, Alexander Hansen wrote: A future issue for concern (after libpng vs. libpng3) is gtkhtml vs. gtkhtml1.1 . A lot of the users have GNOME, and gnome-core-shlibs depends on gtkhtml, as does gnucash (the two examples I actually have installed). However, evolution-1.2

[Fink-devel] mplayer

2003-01-29 Thread Max Horn
With regards to this disscussion: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200301/msg01676.html - it seems we have to change the License field of mplayer to restrictive as we are not allowed to distributed binaries of it. Furthermore, we have to consider whether can afford to

Re: [Fink-devel] FinkCommander

2003-01-27 Thread Max Horn
At 18:10 Uhr -0800 26.01.2003, Ben Hines wrote: Does anyone object to including FinkCommander on the next Fink .dmg? It is pretty mature these days. I am thinking it would be separate from the .pkg, perhaps in a FinkCommander folder with its own readme files and such. Sounds OK I guess. BTW

Re: [Fink-devel] downloading source via CVS

2003-01-27 Thread Max Horn
At 0:10 Uhr -0500 27.01.2003, Carsten wrote: Hi Charles, There's no built-in method in Fink but you can just put CVS commands in InstallScript. It would only be good for personal use, not really for an official fink package. I do this to build the latest FinkCommander and a couple other

[Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Max Horn
One of the last changes to speed up re-index causes a regression. Now if I enter e.g. fink list -o when my index is dirty, I get this: fink list -o Fink has detected that your package cache is out of date and needs an update, but does not have privileges to modify it. Please re-run fink as

Re: [Fink-devel] force-depends

2003-01-27 Thread Max Horn
At 19:29 Uhr +0100 27.01.2003, Martin Costabel wrote: On lundi, jan 27, 2003, at 16:30 Europe/Paris, Alexander Hansen wrote: It may not work when virtual packages are involved. I just did a test to see what would happen if I wanted to remove my xfree86 installation: [] On Mon, 2003-01-27 at

[Fink-devel] base packages

2003-01-27 Thread Max Horn
I just synced the base packages from the unstable tree into the stable tree. I also synced them into the fink CVS module, but don't have time to do a bootstrap right now. I'll do that ASAP (maybe tomorrow), but if anybody finds the time to try it, please do so. I hope I didn't break bootstrap,

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