Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread John Grden
Hey Matt, give Xray a try: www.osflash.org/xray Look at your flash application/site in anyway you want and learn a TON more about the player at the same time. I've heard from so many flash devs that they not only fixed their issues, but their knowledge of the player went up 10 fold while using

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Steven Sacks
> "Why not hire a designer? Precisely my point. Hence, a designer should hire a programmer if they need some programming done. :) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figle

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
>>On 6/13/06, Mark Winterhalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 6/13/06, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I don't know how >>> others feel about this, but for me the threshold is /much/ higher than >>> simply downloading a linked zip. That second line is a mis-quote. I didn't say t

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
>>I recommend avoiding flashvars and loading the XML using XML2 Believe me, I'm first to say use XML, but that's not always an option when your .Net developer is writing the HTML rendering (and it renders on the fly) for you and wants to just pass you a dynamic param in it. It's a nice option to d

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Brian Mays
On 6/13/06 3:11 PM, "Steven Sacks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't draw a button. Anytime I try I end up frustrated. Imagine if there > was a mailing list for designers and I got on and asked questions about how > to draw buttons. I might get help at first but eventually people would sa

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Steven Sacks
> Bottom line is if someone gets stuck they are going to find > help where they can. To tell you the truth I would post just > about any place to be able to get an answer just so I can go > to sleep one night this week. > > Some of us are not action scripting for fun. We are working > in the r

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Michael Stuhr
Matt Mc schrieb: I am sure some people post every question they have with out doing research. I looked everywhere including the origional authors website. Common Creative licence I used this list as an absolute last resort. PS. a programmer at work helped me with the problem and we have it solv

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Winterhalder
On 6/13/06, Matt Mc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not to worry Mark others were helpful. No need to commit yourself.LOL Sorry if you felt like I was attacking you personally -- the remark about the link vs email to have it sent off-list was genuinely meant to help, you and others. Even if you had

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread ryanm
Your response to "Try searching the archives or google for your answers before asking the list" is "If you don't want to help me, shut up." Apparently, petulant children have taken over. Excellent summarization. The problem is, this tells me more about you than it does about the list. This is

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Matt Mc
Thanks Mike I will check that out. I do really appreciate all the time you guys give to this list. Mike Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I recommend avoiding flashvars and loading the XML using XML2 http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2004/02/the_ultimate_as.html. Mike ___

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread iestyn lloyd
On 6/13/06, Mark Winterhalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 6/13/06, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know how others feel about this, but for me the threshold is /much/ higher than simply downloading a linked zip. Agreed. I enjoy helping amateurs on smaller problems (offlist),

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Britton
I recommend avoiding flashvars and loading the XML using XML2 http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2004/02/the_ultimate_as.html. Mike ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.fi

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Matt Mc
I am sure some people post every question they have with out doing research. I looked everywhere including the origional authors website. Common Creative licence I used this list as an absolute last resort. PS. a programmer at work helped me with the problem and we have it solved. But for the

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread ryanm
I have the files all neatly bundled up in a zip file. I have a readme describing my problem I have checked all my links (twice) to make sure they all work. If you spent half as much time reading the documentation as you did packaging the files and typing that email, you'd have figured it out

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Matt Mc
Not to worry Mark others were helpful. No need to commit yourself.LOL GIve me a link to a better forum for my question if you have one. When I parsed out the info it was hard to get an answer. So I spent some time to make a neat package so if someone did want to help I could send it and it wo

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Winterhalder
On 6/13/06, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Perfect example of what we are talking about: While we're at it, a general piece of advice: "I have the files all neatly bundled up in a zip file. I have a readme describing my problem I have checked all my links (twice) to make sure they a

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread phaedrus
*heh* I almost asked "where is the flash newbie list". Subtly hilarious, eh? I'm not really sure where I fall - middling I think - but I figure it can't hurt to subscribe to that list as well - if I am more advanced than the bulk there, well, one often learns by teaching (or by having your teac

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread John Grden
I think this thread quite completely explains the subject line. Besides, when it comes down to it, a list is no different the latest/greatest hangout you'd find with your friends. For a while, it was great - not many people knew, and it was cool. THen everyone found out, it got saturated, and y

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
ur "Actionscript Super Powers" to save you. :) Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Technology Solutions >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Mc >>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Steven Sacks
The problem with a list named FlashNewbies is that help vampires, or "newbies who don't want to actually do any work", tend to avoid newbie lists and go straight for the advanced ones because that's where they perceive the advanced people to be. Why ask a noob how to do something when you can ask

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Steven Sacks
Before Flashcoders was around, people had to solve their Flash problems on their own. After Flashcoders was around, some people didn't know about it and had to solve their Flash problems on their own. Bottom line is - the solutions are out there and many people don't take the time to try and solv

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Matt Mc
Hello I am a Noob, I have a noobie question that cannot be answered on the noob list. I know it is a noob question because I have been told on this list that it is. But even though I have tried all suggestions I still can not get an mp3 player to get it's xml list through a Flashvar in the embe

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Winterhalder
On 6/13/06, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm on both lists, and the newbie list is more advanced than you would think. Most of the questions there could easily be posted here. There are newbie questions of course, but a majority of the subscribers are intermediate to advanced Ac

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
S, When do we get with the gift exchanging? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: 13 June 2006 16:05 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading I will say, the newbie list is

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
ke Mountain >>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:59 AM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading >> >>It would seem I've stirred up a nest of vipers! My point is why bother >>with the two lists? If noone can decide wh

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Mountain
27;t need to turn to a mailing list to find the answers. Forget I spoke. M > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Merrill, Jason > Sent: 13 June 2006 15:40 > To: Flashcoders mailing list > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Fl

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
rning Technology Solutions >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank williams >>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:18 AM >>To: Flashcoders mailing list >>Subject: Re: [Flashcode

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread hank williams
I dont mean to offend anyone, but this *is* the newbie list - at least in part. There is nothing wrong with that. I have never been to the real "newbie" list, and would never make it there. Thats probably true for most of the people who might answer a question (though I honestly havent done much

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Giles Taylor
RTFM: http://www.osflash.org/flashcoders/etiquette ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Au

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Britton
Any way you look at it, we're building a searchable repository of both newb and advanced tips. Flash programmers aren't Nazis, marching together as some kind of unified front against all newbies. A community has elements from all skill levels, and if a newbie has a coding question for the group,

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
ct: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading I think this whole argument is solid ground bullshit. The definition of what you find "interesting" does not have a damn thing to do with what is intermediate-to-advanced AS. AS3 work is irellevant on a professional level, and Flex != F

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Andreas Rønning
I think this whole argument is solid ground bullshit. The definition of what you find "interesting" does not have a damn thing to do with what is intermediate-to-advanced AS. AS3 work is irellevant on a professional level, and Flex != Flash Actionscript. What you're saying is you're complaining

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread hank williams
lost key people. Then we end up in a viscious circle... M > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Jim Robson > Sent: 12 June 2006 17:29 > To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coder

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Mountain
he core principles behind this list - hence we seem to have lost key people. Then we end up in a viscious circle... M > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Jim Robson > Sent: 12 June 2006 17:29 > To: 'Flashcoders

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-12 Thread Nehal
I m enjoying this...Sometime this kind of thread helps as a break :) -Neh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Buchanan Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:12 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-12 Thread Aaron Buchanan
I use rules with entourage, and then filter by subject, you can delete all messages with a matching subject that way. Somethin like that might work for you. I'm sure u can do it in outlook as well. a On 6/12/06 7:37 AM, "Mike Mountain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dunno if its me skilling up (w

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-12 Thread Derek Vadneau
We know. The only way to discuss the list with the list is to post on the list. Derek Vadneau - Original Message - From: "Lee McColl-Sylvester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [Flashco

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-12 Thread Derek Vadneau
- From: "8ball Developer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading People, stop the madness The flash player question is not a newbie question. I have over 8 years of

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-12 Thread Mike Britton
Not to mention the ability to search through messages (or digests) for keywords of interest. Mike ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-12 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
rs mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading FWIW: I've been working with Flash for over 6 years, but there are still a lot of things I haven't done. I've built some complex apps, but they are business apps (functionality revolves around the basic CR

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-12 Thread Jim Robson
uestions? As ryanm pointed out, all you need to do is delete the messages that don't interest you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 8ball Developer Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 12:14 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcod

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-12 Thread 8ball Developer
People, stop the madness The flash player question is not a newbie question. I have over 8 years of flash development under my belt. It's a simple question, not newbie and I still don't have a good answer for it. On 6/12/06, Mike Mountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Too many people answer

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-12 Thread ryanm
I just seem to find myself scanning over/deleting instantly more and more posts, whereas 8-12 months ago I was reading the vast majority It's cyclical, like everything else. In the absence of stimulating discussion of complex and interesting problems, some newbie questions and OT posts d

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-12 Thread Mike Mountain
> Too many people answering newbie posts instead of pointing > them to the newbie list. I'm guilty of that - it was the flash player thread that prompted the "hang on a minute..." moment and begat this email > Plus, too many OT posts. Why would someone want to read > discussions on non-Fla

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-12 Thread Derek Vadneau
Been like that for quite some time. Too many people answering newbie posts instead of pointing them to the newbie list. Plus, too many OT posts. Why would someone want to read discussions on non-Flash coding topics in Flashcoders? That's what other lists are for. Others seem to disagree, and w

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-12 Thread Daniel Cascais
Some FlashCoders might be moving over to FlexCoders, where they can talk about ActionScript 3... On 6/12/06, Mike Mountain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dunno if its me skilling up (which I doubt) but it would seem a lot of the posts flash coders are getting now would be better suited in: Flashnew