[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16

2003-02-25 Thread Martin Spott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modified Files: f16.xml Log Message: improved f-16 from Erik Hofman Oh, _very_ nice, but eerm, did anyone manage to get the beast off the runway without crashing _before_ take-off ? Is it possible ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16

2003-02-25 Thread John Check
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 2:22 pm, Martin Spott wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modified Files: f16.xml Log Message: improved f-16 from Erik Hofman Oh, _very_ nice, but eerm, did anyone manage to get the beast off the runway without crashing _before_ take-off ? Is it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16

2003-02-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Check writes: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 2:22 pm, Martin Spott wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modified Files: f16.xml Log Message: improved f-16 from Erik Hofman Oh, _very_ nice, but eerm, did anyone manage to get the beast off the runway without crashing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16

2003-02-25 Thread John Check
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 3:40 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: John Check writes: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 2:22 pm, Martin Spott wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modified Files: f16.xml Log Message: improved f-16 from Erik Hofman Oh, _very_ nice, but eerm,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/f16

2003-02-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: John Check writes: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 2:22 pm, Martin Spott wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modified Files: f16.xml Log Message: improved f-16 from Erik Hofman Oh, _very_ nice, but eerm, did anyone manage to get the beast off the runway without

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS

2003-02-25 Thread Martin Spott
John Check [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2003 2:22 pm, Martin Spott wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modified Files: f16.xml Log Message: improved f-16 from Erik Hofman Oh, _very_ nice, but eerm, did anyone manage to get the beast off the runway without

[Flightgear-devel] RE: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Docs

2003-02-24 Thread Michael Basler
Log Message: Add Carsten Hoefer's excellent flight tutorial to help system Thanks, John! I hope Carsten will find time to go on with it later. Michael -- Michael Basler, Jena, Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/pmb.geo/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RE: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Docs

2003-02-24 Thread Carsten . Hoefer
Does this mean, the document is also part of cvs? Can anyone give me a hand on how to continue writing using cvs? Where do I have to send or put new chapters? Thanks, Carsten Michael Basler schrieb: Log Message: Add Carsten Hoefer's excellent flight tutorial to help system Thanks,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] RE: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:FlightGear/FlightGear/Docs

2003-02-24 Thread Michael Basler
Carsten, Does this mean, the document is also part of cvs? Luckily, indeed. Plus, it certainly will become part of the next official release (if you don't object, of course). Can anyone give me a hand on how to continue writing using cvs? Where do I have to send or put new chapters?

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Hi

2003-02-18 Thread Cameron Moore
Doh! Sorry for letting this onto -cvslogs. I wasn't paying attention to which list I was looking at. I think I need some sleep... * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris) [2003.02.18 23:03]: Hi, I would like to edit the clouds, but where I can find the *.cld format tools for? about this post

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear'

2003-01-02 Thread David Luff
On 12/30/02 at 7:47 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon Dec 30 14:47:23 EST 2002 Author: cvsroot Update of /home/cvsroot/FlightGear/FlightGear In directory bitless:/tmp/cvs-serv15423 Modified Files: preferences.xml Log Message: Changed default frequencies. KSFO ATIS is not on standby

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/Instruments'

2003-01-02 Thread David Luff
On 12/28/02 at 7:10 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat Dec 28 14:10:41 EST 2002 Author: cvsroot Update of /home/cvsroot/FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/Instruments In directory bitless:/tmp/cvs-serv31667/Instruments Modified Files: single-magneto-switch.xml Log Message: Changed to use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear'

2003-01-02 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Luff writes: On 12/30/02 at 7:47 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon Dec 30 14:47:23 EST 2002 Author: cvsroot Update of /home/cvsroot/FlightGear/FlightGear In directory bitless:/tmp/cvs-serv15423 Modified Files: preferences.xml Log Message: Changed default frequencies.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear'

2003-01-02 Thread David Luff
On 1/2/03 at 11:52 AM Curtis L. Olson wrote: David, Another feature request would be to create a volume and on/off switch property and honor them. Volume could go from 0.0 - 1.0 scaled appropriately, and on/off is pretty self explanitory. It would also be nice to have a servicable property so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear'

2003-01-02 Thread David Luff
On 1/2/03 at 11:52 AM Curtis L. Olson wrote: Another feature request would be to create a volume and on/off switch property and honor them. Volume could go from 0.0 - 1.0 scaled BTW, can you hear the audio ATIS OK on your Linux box? There have been a few problems reported with it over

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear'

2003-01-02 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Luff writes: On 1/2/03 at 11:52 AM Curtis L. Olson wrote: Another feature request would be to create a volume and on/off switch property and honor them. Volume could go from 0.0 - 1.0 scaled BTW, can you hear the audio ATIS OK on your Linux box? There have been a few problems

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/Instruments'

2003-01-02 Thread David Megginson
David Luff writes: This is fantastic and works beautifully! Unfortunately the default startup at the moment leaves the magneto switch stuck in the starter position, and the only way to get it back so the above can work properly if required is to hit the space bar as before. Can you find

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft-yasim'

2002-12-18 Thread Erik Hofman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lee Elliott I also noticed that there don't appear to be models included for the F-104, F-15 F-16 and I think I could probably do some and animate them for fgfs if they'd be useful. I would realy like it if someone could add 3D models for those aircraft. I've

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html

2002-12-17 Thread Christian Mayer
Michael Basler wrote: I tried this. It was still recognizable after conversion in the HTML. I simply searched for my address (Ctrl-GF in IE) and it was found :-( I tried several font changes etc. which all did not hide the address. A clever sign for/aft the @ being invisible but masking

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html

2002-12-17 Thread Michael Basler
Christian, From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christian Mayer This gives ma an idea: Render only the @ to a picture and include this picture instead of the real @ sign in the address. I think this should fool enough address-harvesters. Sounds like a cool idea

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html

2002-12-17 Thread Michael Basler
Norman, [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Norman Vine Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why not just use ' at ' instead of '@' note spaces surrounding 'at' Something similar already occured to me but I've dismissed it as being to ugly. If those named

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html

2002-12-17 Thread Christian Mayer
Norman Vine wrote: Michael Basler writes: Christian Mayer wrote: This gives ma an idea: Render only the @ to a picture and include this picture instead of the real @ sign in the address. I think this should fool enough address-harvesters. Sounds like a cool idea as

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuidegetstart.html,1.1.1.1,1.2 getstart.pdf,1.1.1.1,1.2getstartap1.html,1.1.1.1,1.2 getstartap2.html,1.1.1.1,1.2getstartap3.html,1.1.1.1,1.2 getstartch1.html,1.1.1.1,1.2getstartch2.html,1.1.1.1,1.2 getstartch3.html,1.1.1.1,1.2getstartch4.html,1.1.1.1,1.2 getstartch5.html,1.1.1.1,1.2getstartli1.html,1.1.1.1,1.2 getstartli2.html,1.1.1.1,1.2getstartli3.html,1.1.1.1,1.2 getstartpa1.html,1.1.1.1,1.2getstartpa2.html,1.1.1.1,1.2 getstartpa3.html,1.1.1.1,1.2

2002-12-16 Thread Christian Mayer
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/www/Docs/InstallGuide In directory seneca:/tmp/cvs-serv28258 Modified Files: getstart.html getstart.pdf getstartap1.html getstartap2.html getstartap3.html getstartch1.html getstartch2.html getstartch3.html

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html

2002-12-16 Thread Michael Basler
Chrisitan, Well, I think even addresses like something @ something.com aren't save against spammers. I guessed it. So far the best recepie is to convert the address to little pixel graphics and to include the images on the page. ...which 100 or so graphics you are going to create...?

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html

2002-12-16 Thread Michael Basler
Christian, Including images in LaTeX is no problem - that just leaves us with the problem how we are generating the images... Exactly. Although the HTML converter might become a bit slow with 100+ pix. Perhaps no serious problem. I'm sure that one of the Unix gurus knows a fast way to do

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html

2002-12-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Michael Basler writes: Chrisitan, Well, I think even addresses like something @ something.com aren't save against spammers. I guessed it. So far the best recepie is to convert the address to little pixel graphics and to include the images on the page. ...which 100 or so

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: www/Docs/InstallGuide getstart.html

2002-12-16 Thread Michael Basler
Curt, Could you fake something as an equation: $ curt\@flightgear.org $ latex2html would convert this to a graphic automatically ... although in equation mode you have to worry about things getting interpreted as equations and variables ... Yes, latex2html does, but tex4ht which I use

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Objects obj.cxx,1.12,1.13

2002-12-11 Thread Martin Spott
Modified Files: obj.cxx Log Message: Have DummyBSphereEntity inherit from ssgBranch instead of ssgEntity, to allow building with the latest plib CVS. Uh, I appreciate this one _very_ much because it enables me to follow the current development. Thanks, Martin. -- Unix _IS_

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-19 Thread David Megginson
Tony Peden writes: The 48 in number checks with my copy of the POH (from which many other numbers have been derived, so we should probably stick with that) You've talked before about forking, and that might not be a bad idea. Right now, we're more-or-less targetting a 172R, but the 48

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-19 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 04:26, David Megginson wrote: Tony Peden writes: The 48 in number checks with my copy of the POH (from which many other numbers have been derived, so we should probably stick with that) You've talked before about forking, and that might not be a bad idea.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-19 Thread Alex Perry
I don't really object to that -- except that I wonder how many folks will be able to really tell the difference. Surely, even in the real thing, the differences are fairly subtle. I'm also not so sure that we have the fidelity that making that distinction implies. I recommend the split,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-19 Thread David Megginson
Alex Perry writes: The last ten degrees _are_ mostly drag, but that's what you need (a) to get a steep final in rugged terrain (b) for fast descents in emergency management (c) for a relatively quick flare for short fields Speaking of quick flares, I'm finally getting the hang of

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread David Megginson
Tony Peden writes: It looks like this may have helped crosswind handling on the ground considerably. The relatively small amount of testing I've done shows that the c172 will sit still in up to a 15 knot crosswind and turn very slowly in 20 knots. Let us know what you think. I'll

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread Tony Peden
On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 05:52, David Megginson wrote: Tony Peden writes: It looks like this may have helped crosswind handling on the ground considerably. The relatively small amount of testing I've done shows that the c172 will sit still in up to a 15 knot crosswind and turn very

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread David Megginson
Tony Peden writes: I didn't look at everything, but the nose wheel was in NONE and the mains CASTERED as far back as I looked (which went back to the beginning of time for the configurable gear). I can't explain the CASTERED mains, but I understood what you call steer groups to be brake

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread David Megginson
David Megginson writes: Note a second problem with this code: it uses getDrPos (the actual rudder position) and ignores maxSteerAngle from the config file. A better option would probably be SteerAngle = SteerGain*FCS-GetDrCmd()*maxSteerAngle*RADTODEG; For RADTODEG, read DEGTORAD.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:29:40 -0400 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an excerpt from FGLGear.cpp: case bgNose: SteerGain = -0.50; BrakeFCoeff = rollingFCoeff; break; In other words, if gear belongs to bgNone, it gets SteerGain=0.0, so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:15:54 -0400 David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For RADTODEG, read DEGTORAD. Use degtorad and radtodeg These are consts from the FGJSBBase class. This is where commonly used constants are being migrated to, instead of #defines, which we are moving away from.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt writes: I may be guilty, here. Note that this file needs to be gone through again with a fine tooth comb and validated. Just when I think I can't become more overwhelmed than I already am ... Wife pregnant with triplets again? (Don't laugh, my wife has a friend who had two

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread Jon Berndt
Is there some reasoning behind setting the steering gains according to the brake selection? This makes no sense to me. It looks to me like their needs to be a separate steering selection (or just specify the gain in the config file). Agreed. I beg your indulgence - let me have a look at

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] BaseCVSupdate:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft/c172'

2002-09-18 Thread Tony Peden
On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 17:48, Jon Berndt wrote: Is there some reasoning behind setting the steering gains according to the brake selection? This makes no sense to me. It looks to me like their needs to be a separate steering selection (or just specify the gain in the config file).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Controls controls.cxx,1.21,1.22 controls.hxx,1.21,1.22

2002-07-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 13:49:36 -0700, Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..(during the Falklands War, the Britts tested refuelling of Harriers and Sea Harriers, from ships, in-hover refuelling, believe I saw this in Air Progress magazine

Re: [Flightgear-devel] re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Controlscontrols.cxx,1.21,1.22 controls.hxx,1.21,1.22

2002-07-06 Thread Andy Ross
Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..(during the Falklands War, the Britts tested refuelling of Harriers and Sea Harriers, from ships, in-hover refuelling, believe I saw this in Air Progress magazine in the mid 80'ies.) I think what you're remembering is the Sky Hook gadget that was developed but never

Re: [Flightgear-devel] re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Controls controls.cxx,1.21,1.22 controls.hxx,1.21,1.22

2002-07-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:37:10 -0500, Jon Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: FWIW, JSBSim sets no maximum for number of tanks. I'm not sure how this might be affected by lack of ability to control them. Also, is there a standard way to select a source tank and a

RE: [Flightgear-devel] re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Controls controls.cxx,1.21,1.22 controls.hxx,1.21,1.22

2002-07-05 Thread Jon Berndt
...or, between aircraft for in-flight refuelling? ..(during the Falklands War, the Britts tested refuelling of Harriers and Sea Harriers, from ships, in-hover refuelling, believe I saw this in Air Progress magazine in the mid 80'ies.) exactly. smime.p7s Description:

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/FDM/JSBSimFGPiston.cpp,1.32,1.33

2002-07-02 Thread David Megginson
David Luff writes: CylinderHeadTemp_degK += (dqdt_cylinder_head / HeatCapacityCylinderHead) * dt; Corrected. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.megginson.com/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] Base CVS update:'FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft'

2002-06-11 Thread Jim Wilson
Was this a mistake? Best, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Date: Tue Jun 11 13:06:29 EDT 2002 Author: cvsroot Update of /home/cvsroot/FlightGear/FlightGear/Aircraft In directory bitless:/tmp/cvslck/cvs-serv8782/Aircraft Modified Files: X15-set.xml Log Message: Command line help

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Cameron Moore writes: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.05.16 23:06]: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7/FlightGear/src/Main In directory seneca:/tmp/cvs-serv26528/src/Main Modified Files: options.cxx Log Message: Bernie Bright: To make MSVC happy it appears we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-16 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2002.05.17 08:43]: Cameron Moore writes: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.05.16 23:06]: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7/FlightGear/src/Main In directory seneca:/tmp/cvs-serv26528/src/Main Modified Files: options.cxx Log

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Cameron Moore writes: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Olson) [2002.05.17 08:43]: Cameron Moore writes: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.05.16 23:06]: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7/FlightGear/src/Main In directory seneca:/tmp/cvs-serv26528/src/Main Modified Files:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-16 Thread Derrell . Lipman
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Originally this was changed to something like: cout usage: Nicely formatted text that will look exactly like it is entered here when it is displayed by the program. This is very 'pretty' to be able to do. endl;

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-16 Thread Christian Mayer
Cameron Moore wrote: Then I'd like to request that we revert the changes to options.cxx:fgUsage(). Is this: cout say endl what?! endl; worse than this?: cout say\n\ what?!\n; Far be it from me to argue with Bernie about anything C++, but I prefer to use the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-16 Thread Christian Mayer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This can be done portably using the standard string concatenation feature of the language. The above would look like the following and likely work with any reasonably modern compiler (this string concatenation feature did not exist in KR C but did beginning with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-16 Thread Julian Foad
Christian Mayer wrote: Note: You 2nd version does *not* use the string concatenation. The 2nd version boils down to the very C++ dependant operator(operator(operator(cout, usage),endl),...); Yes, it does. What point are you trying to make by saying very C++ dependant? Nearly all of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-16 Thread Christian Mayer
Julian Foad wrote: Christian Mayer wrote: Note: You 2nd version does *not* use the string concatenation. The 2nd version boils down to the very C++ dependant operator(operator(operator(cout, usage),endl),...); Yes, it does. What point are you trying to make by saying very C++

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-16 Thread Julian Foad
Christian Mayer wrote: I wanted to point out the very big (internal) differnce of the ANSI C style string1 string2 THat ends up as string1string2 in a normal array of char vs. The C++ way: cout string1 string2 wich uses the operator() method. Both are valid and have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Mainoptions.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-16 Thread Erik Hofman
So in the end, I'm not sure which is better. They each have their pluses ... Lets move it over to an XML file ... Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-15 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.05.16 23:06]: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7/FlightGear/src/Main In directory seneca:/tmp/cvs-serv26528/src/Main Modified Files: options.cxx Log Message: Bernie Bright: To make MSVC happy it appears we need backslashes on string

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main options.cxx,1.162,1.163

2002-05-15 Thread Jonathan Polley
MSVC was complaining about the latter. My solution was: cout say\n\ what?\n\ ; Jonathan Polley On Thursday, May 16, 2002, at 11:21 PM, Cameron Moore wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.05.16 23:06]: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7/FlightGear/src/Main In directory

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Navaids fix.hxx,1.6,1.7ils.hxx,1.16,1.17 nav.hxx,1.22,1.23

2002-05-11 Thread Erik Hofman
David Megginson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7/FlightGear/src/Navaids In directory seneca:/tmp/cvs-serv23071/src/Navaids Modified Files: fix.hxx ils.hxx nav.hxx Log Message: Mac OS X patches from Jonathan Polley. *** 37,41 #elif defined(

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Navaids fix.hxx,1.6,1.7ils.hxx,1.16,1.17 nav.hxx,1.22,1.23

2002-05-11 Thread Bernie Bright
Erik Hofman wrote: David Megginson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7/FlightGear/src/Navaids In directory seneca:/tmp/cvs-serv23071/src/Navaids Modified Files: fix.hxx ils.hxx nav.hxx Log Message: Mac OS X patches from Jonathan Polley. *** 37,41 #elif

[Flightgear-devel] re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] [PATCH] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/Controls controls.cxx,1.18,1.19

2002-04-25 Thread David Megginson
[re: FGControls::parking_brake] Melchior FRANZ writes: Yes, you are right. That should be 1.0! David, could you change this, please? Sorry for the inconvenience. Actually, it doesn't matter -- when the property is bound, FGControls will pick up the default property value anyway. I will

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Model TODO,NONE,1.1 README,1.1,1.2

2002-04-20 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: - add animations for the model as a whole - add submodels - add billboards - add UV animations Billboards-? you mean like those big signs they allow in other states? Is animation for blinking aircraft lights included in the above? No -- I

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Navaids ilslist.cxx,1.19,1.20

2002-04-15 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Hmmm, The bigger airports tend to use the same frequency for each end of their runways. So this change will probably break half the approaches at the major airports (KLAX, KMSP, KORD, KDFW, etc.) I made a change to return the matching station that points most directly at us. This should be the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main location.cxx,1.2,1.3

2002-04-13 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Are you using scenery_center or next_scenery_center? It's been so long I don't recall all the resoning, but next_scenery_center was made available to the view manager so it can get the view position correct even when we cross a tile boundary and the offsets change. Regards, Curt. Jim Wilson

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main location.cxx,1.2,1.3

2002-04-13 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Are you using scenery_center or next_scenery_center? It's been so long I don't recall all the resoning, but next_scenery_center was made available to the view manager so it can get the view position correct even when we cross a tile boundary and the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx,1.161,1.162 main.cxx,1.270,1.271 options.cxx,1.158,1.159

2002-04-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David, It sounds like you are bypassing SG_LOG() because it isn't doing what you want. This seems like a bandaid solution at best. Perhaps we should put these messages back in as SG_LOG( SG_ALERT ) and then default 'release' builds to a minimum logging level of SG_ALERT rather than collapsing

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx,1.161,1.162 main.cxx,1.270,1.271 options.cxx,1.158,1.159

2002-04-04 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: It sounds like you are bypassing SG_LOG() because it isn't doing what you want. This seems like a bandaid solution at best. Perhaps we should put these messages back in as SG_LOG( SG_ALERT ) and then default 'release' builds to a minimum logging level of

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Cockpit panel_io.cxx,1.36,1.37

2002-03-20 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.03.21 08:58]: Index: panel_io.cxx === RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7/FlightGear/src/Cockpit/panel_io.cxx,v retrieving revision 1.36 retrieving revision 1.37 diff -C2 -r1.36 -r1.37

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Cockpit panel_io.cxx,1.36,1.37

2002-03-20 Thread Bernie Bright
Cameron Moore wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.03.21 08:58]: Index: panel_io.cxx === RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7/FlightGear/src/Cockpit/panel_io.cxx,v retrieving revision 1.36 retrieving revision

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_props.cxx,1.49,1.50

2002-03-14 Thread Tony Peden
--- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Peden writes: Restoring a flight is not working in a running FlightGear session because of JSBSim trim-routine problems, What is it doing (or not, as the case may be)? It's not setting body velocities from the save

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_props.cxx,1.49,1.50

2002-03-14 Thread Tony Peden
--- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Peden writes: Restoring a flight is not working in a running FlightGear session because of JSBSim trim-routine problems, What is it doing (or not, as the case may be)? It's not setting body velocities from the save

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Cockpit panel_io.cxx,1.33,1.34

2002-03-09 Thread Erik Hofman
Bernie Bright wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.7/FlightGear/src/Cockpit In directory seneca:/tmp/cvs-serv20681 Modified Files: panel_io.cxx Log Message: Sgi doesn't define the != operator for string != char[] so we need to cast the char array into a

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David, This is going to mess up rendering of distant mountains for people with voodoo cards (i.e. 16 bit buffers). Depth buffer precision is *very* sensitive to the near clip plane distance: http://www.sjbaker.org/steve/omniv/love_your_z_buffer.html I'm really nervous about forcing this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Mainmain.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Perry
David Megginson writes: Changed the near clip plane to 0.1f regardless. Previously, it jumped to 10m after takeoff, but that doesn't really make sense any more, especially if models are going to have interior views. Is there any real saving in pushing the near plane out anyway?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread D Luff
On 5 Mar 2002, at 8:40, Curtis L. Olson wrote: David, This is going to mess up rendering of distant mountains for people with voodoo cards (i.e. 16 bit buffers). And not just 16 bit cards - I get flashing polygons in the sky with two different 32 bit cards at 0.5, progressively cured by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread D Luff
Alex Perry writes: and for the latter you're in ground haze in any case. You Californians speak for yourselves! :-) Cheers - Dave -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I'm really nervous about forcing this down to 0.1 for all cases. This will mess things up for people with voodoo cards. Can we change this back? Perhaps we need to do a separate pass for rendering the 3d model and change the near clip plane just for that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread Wolfram Kuss
Curt wrote: Perhaps we need to do a separate pass for rendering the 3d model and change the near clip plane just for that portion of the rendering. Yes. That should be easy to do. BoB does it as well, they even have 3 or 4 different parts of the geometry that they render with 3 or 4

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Mainmain.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread David Megginson
Alex Perry writes: Putting the clip plane at 0.1 is an easy way to stop me doing demos of FGFS. I don't _have_ a machine with better than 16 bit depth buffering, and the notebook that I do most of the demos with cannot of course be upgraded. I understand. How does everything look with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread David Megginson
Andy Ross writes: Or just turn the depth buffer off for the cockpit and sort the geometry; for most cockpit layouts, this should be pretty feasible. It won't work if the cockpit has moving parts (yokes or whatnot) that obscure other pieces. I don't think this is an easy option, at least

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't think this is an easy option, at least not with a true 3D model wrapped around the viewer. We'll have to find a more robust solution. To start, I can make the depth buffer 0.1 only when the interior model view is enabled, so no one loses

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: David, Assuming all of this is being drawn via plib/ssg then you could put all the geometry in a separate ssgRoot node and call ssgCullandDraw() on this root after everything else has been rendered. We have a couple ssgRoot's already so we can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: Ummm...why not clear the z-buffer and use a seperate scene graph? Note that there are *lots* of people using pre-geforce generation hardware. Probably more than not. Actually, it's those folks who are at risk. Clearing the whole z buffer soaks up big chunks of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Mainmain.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Perry
Or just turn the depth buffer off for the cockpit and sort the geometry; for most cockpit layouts, this should be pretty feasible. It won't work if the cockpit has moving parts (yokes or whatnot) that obscure other pieces. Even if they obscure, it is only a problem if they swap places so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Mainmain.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Perry
David Luff writes: Alex Perry writes: and for the latter you're in ground haze in any case. You Californians speak for yourselves! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ya see, here the temperature is _above_ freezing and _not_ raining at the same time 8-). I'll take poor visibility over days of drizzle...

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread Tony Peden
On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 18:16, Alex Perry wrote: David Luff writes: Alex Perry writes: and for the latter you're in ground haze in any case. You Californians speak for yourselves! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ya see, here the temperature is _above_ freezing and _not_ raining at the same time

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main main.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: Ummm...why not clear the z-buffer and use a seperate scene graph? Note that there are *lots* of people using pre-geforce generation hardware. Probably more than not. Time -- I don't know if I'll have time to figure all that out this week. All the best, David --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Mainmain.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Alex, Try doing a make clean inside JSBSim and then rebuild everything. Curt. Alex Perry writes: You likely don't notice any of this if you are running a card with a 32bit depth buffer (i.e. geforce.) Don't worry Curt, leave the change in, I don't see the problem on 16 bit ...

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Mainmain.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread Jon S. Berndt
You likely don't notice any of this if you are running a card with a 32bit depth buffer (i.e. geforce.) Don't worry Curt, leave the change in, I don't see the problem on 16 bit ... Loading tile /usr/local/lib/FlightGear/Scenery/w120n30/w118n32/1023667 ESC[1mESC[4mJSBSim Flight

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Mainmain.cxx,1.245,1.246

2002-03-05 Thread Alex Perry
13971 Segmentation fault [you *are* joking, aren't you?!?!] Err, no. Sorry. Curt suggest I recompile ... in progress ... ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear autogen.sh,1.1,1.2

2002-01-17 Thread Cameron Moore
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curtis L. Olson) [2002.01.17 09:25]: ! echo -n Running automake ! if [ $OSTYPE = IRIX -o $OSTYPE = IRIX64 ]; then ! echo --add-missing --include-deps ! automake --add-missing --include-deps ! else ! echo --add-missing ! automake --add-missing ! fi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS update:FlightGear/src/FDM/JSBSim

2001-12-17 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ok, thanks, this should now be installed for FlightGear and SimGear. I'll work on TerraGear at some future time when I get a chance. Curt. Ross Golder writes: This is how it appears to be set up for me: In CVSROOT/loginfo, add the line : DEFAULT $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/syncmail %{sVv} [EMAIL

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS update:FlightGear/src/FDM/JSBSim/filtersjb

2001-12-14 Thread Ross Golder
On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 03:48, David Megginson wrote: Date: Wednesday December 12, 19101 @ 21:48 Author: david Wow! What're things like in the year 19101, David? Has FlightGear 1.0 been release yet :o) ? -- Ross ___ Flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS update: FlightGear/src/FDM/JSBSim

2001-12-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ross, I believe what David was doing was adding the autogenerated files to the .cvsignore files ... (threw me at first too.) Curt. Ross Golder writes: Why add auto-generated files to the CVS repository? I think it is generally considered (by other open source projects anyway) a bad idea

re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS update: FlightGear/src/FDM/JSBSim

2001-12-11 Thread David Megginson
Ross Golder writes: Why add auto-generated files to the CVS repository? I didn't -- I added config.h to .cvsignore, so that cvs won't complain about an unknown file. Modified Files: .cvsignore Log Message: Added config.h, which is autogenerated. All the best, David --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS update:FlightGear/src/FDM/JSBSim

2001-12-11 Thread Ross Golder
Phew! :-) Did we get anywhere with adding cvs diff output to the cvslogs messages, as per SourceForge? That would have made it a bit more obvious. -- Ross On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 21:43, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Ross, I believe what David was doing was adding the autogenerated files to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS update:FlightGear/src/FDM/JSBSim

2001-12-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Ross Golder writes: Did we get anywhere with adding cvs diff output to the cvslogs messages, as per SourceForge? That would have made it a bit more obvious. I think I'm losing email over the side of the bucket ... can someone send a proper script to me directly? Thanks, Curt. -- Curtis

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