Vivian Meazza wrote:
Further, I do NOT want the code automatically saving my changes, we should
be given the option on exit. Apart from downloading a new version of
preferences.xml, is there any way back to the default values: there should
be?
Just delete the generated preferences.xml?
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
I should also point out that I received an error message when the new
system couldn't load my preferences if they didn't exist. We should
see an error message in this case.
You received an error message and you should see an error message? Seems
to me like that's the
Vance Souders wrote:
Was the exception handling issue referenced below ever addressed?
IIRC this was discussed and the code was correct. But Vassilii did some
improvements regardless.
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Jon S. Berndt wrote:
Note that I'm still not sure how this is going to work with carrier
landings. The zero velocity code may get bypassed, since a carrier is
normally not at zero speed. I can't remember if I accounted for that or not.
Probably an easy fix, anyhow.
What I don't understand
I think finally I got the right idea: look at how it's done in the old
version of the file, before the update. Looks like it's neither gear,
nor CG, but something in the same area. Restored the values and
everything looks fine now.
But there's still one thing I'm curious about. Does it just
Richard Harrison wrote:
I 100% agree with the way Jon has fixed this. Suggesting that there is
simpler way of doing it indicates a lack of understanding of the
complexities.
Yes, of course. I didn't say the way it's fixed is bad, or that it
doesn't work. But as I never tried to code a FDM
Isao Yamashita wrote:
--carrier=Nimitz option doesn't work for me.
FG gives me some mysterious help text like below :
--carrier=[name|ID] Specify starting position on an AI carrier
--parkpos=name Specify which starting position on an AI carrier (must
also specify a carrier)
I did uncomment
Martin Spott wrote:
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
Erik Hofman wrote:
It does sound like you don't specify --enable-distance-attenuation or
that your hardware doesn't support GL_DISTANCE_ATTENUATION_EXT
[...]
That does really help ... would it make sense to add a distance
dene maxwell wrote:
If I chose to stay with the old version front end then I could still
expect the functionality I had enjoyed to still be available. This is
not the case with 098a MP. 098a MP no longer exists and having
supported a household upgrade to cable 'net on the basis of being able
Chris Metzler wrote:
Both pigeon and I are experiencing that the Concorde doesn't start.
We both run Linux. Attempting to start with the Concorde gives a slightly
messed-up splash screen (black blotches near the bottom), followed by
an abort. Backtrace included below:
This has been since
Innis Cunningham wrote:
Maybe all the people who are working on the 737 need to get
together and work out who is going to do what.You have as it
would appear done a lot of the 737 electrical system I also know
that Justin Smithies is working on the same system.I am working
on the 3D cockpit
David Luff wrote:
Melchior FRANZ writes:
OK, you've pricked my consciensce. I'll make a concerted effort to track that one down, since it's undoubtably one of mine :-( I thought it might have been fixed, since I haven't seen it since a couple of bug-fixes were added to that bit of code be
Berndt, Jon S wrote:
Second (and more important) a hopefully good guess about the
VRP. I used the z value of the old 737, which seems to fit
and spent half an hour trying to figure out the y value. I
tested giving full left break and 90% thrust which keeps the
plane spinning around the left
Innis Cunningham wrote:
I'd like to ask: is there some development version of the 737
available? I'm tempted to fix some animations that were in the old
model, but if I had to guess, I'd say they are already done and I'd
hate to waste the effort.
As the 737 model has recently been replaced
Innis Cunningham wrote:
Stefan Seifert writes
The 737-300 is missing the nose gear animations: turning and
compression. Looked at it yesterday, but it's not as easy as it was
with the old model because the nosewheel seems not to be a named
object anymore. Have to find out how I can give
Innis Cunningham wrote:
Hello Stefan
That is correct those two animations are missing and if you would like to
do them again that would be great.
Here are the objects that now make up the nose gear.
...
So rotating everything from collar down should do the steering.
And compressing everthing
And of course, I forgot something in my last mail: the engine fans are
missing the cylinder with the spiral in the model.
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Justin Smithies wrote:
Hi all,
This may sound daft but i've setup cvs on my server to hold the
737-300 development that me , Markus and others are doing so it does not
touch the FG model until the model authors are happy with changes etc and
wish to commit the changes to the FG cvs.
Jon S. Berndt wrote:
I suppose this points out that it would be nice to have a version of the
config file that could work in multiple situations (JSBSim standalone,
FlightGear, etc.) - that is, conditional usage. I'm not sure how I'd do
that, yet, though.
Normally I would say, that the
Ralf Gerlich wrote:
Hi,
Paul Surgeon schrieb:
Well I think the best bang for the buck would be via some sort of
terrain LOD mechanism. Using primitives to draw every single feature
just isn't going to scale well.
Terrain LOD and primitives for every feature is not necessarily a
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
I set the AP altitude-hold target higher and higher, and now I'm
flying with Mach 1.00 at 250,000 ft, and I'm a bit worried about heat
problems once I started the landing procedure.
vspeed ist constant at 2012. Contrails are shooting ahead ... even
faster than the 737 ...
Jon S. Berndt wrote:
Using k/j or Ctrl-b or Shift-S - nothing seems to be able to stow the
speedbrake/spoilers on the upper surface of the 737-300 wing. Using the j
key seems to start it stowing, but it's only momentary. Then, it deploys
again. This happens when I use the
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
I don't think we gain much from forking plib. *If* we have people
interested in working on plib, those can as well ask for plib
write access. (The texture compression was IMHO not advertized
well, so I'm not really surprised that it was ignored.)
Forgive me my
That may be a problem, that could affect FGLive, too:
http://trends.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/15/1451229from=rss
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Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Fri, 12 May 2006 08:35:51 +0900, alexander wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anders Gidenstam wrote:
There are some drivers for Linux, but nothing that really works.
TrackIR manufacturer wants to develop such drivers, but dislike making
it open source for some
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
I don't have a scroll mouse, because I don't like them. The middle
button is too important on Unix to put a disturbing wheel there.
Fortunately, there are other developers who could do this. All you
need is a lot of patience, as getting plib patches committed isn't
the
Thomas Förster wrote:
Don't know wether svg editors will preserve unknown tags and attributes. If
they do, the physical airport layout can then be changed with a standard svg
drawing program (e.g. inkscape).
That's the nice thing about XML: you just have to put your own tags and
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
PS: I know we can't have everything in cvs, but I keep committing
until Curt pulls the emergency brake. And if it's helicopters,
then I don't even hesitate for a second. :-P
But why not have all available aircrafts in CVS? CVS is a source code
management
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
I found the old code quite horrible, even after the last improvements.
The new method is without any doubt superior. If nobody objects, then
I'll commit that tomorrow. Some things should IMHO get improved:
New version attached. I added some more info about the dead
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
$ fgfs --aircraft=YF-23 --airport=knuq --disable-real-weather-fetch
- full throttle
- climb to 8000 ft
- 90 degree bank
- pull stick fully back
amazingly: you don't bleed off speed, but *accelerate*
- at ~1630 kt (after that the speed decreases) 0 degree bank and
After some months of just hitting ctrl+c I finally tried to find out why
FG hangs every time on exit just sitting there doing nothing.
I did a backtrace on all threads and guessed, that sound may have
something to do with it and it seems like I was right.
I have (define devices '(sdl)) in my
AJ MacLeod wrote:
Personally I don't think we need a separate file for each aircraft, but I
don't have any particularly strong feelings either way on that one. I
suppose it would make it very easy to return any aircraft model to standard
state..
It would be not too difficult to delete the
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
* Stefan Seifert -- Wednesday 23 August 2006 22:03:
Before Melchior's work-around I could reproduce the problem with fgfs
--disable-auto-coordination --aircraft=harrier --carrier=Nimitz
Just switch views and it crashes.
But you should still see the error
Dave Culp wrote:
I have some buttons on my joystick set up for this, and I do get an increased
descent rate when spoilers are deployed. The sgs233 FDM uses the JSBSim
property called fcs/speedbrake-pos-norm, which is controlled by the
FlightGear property called controls/flight/speedbrake,
Heiko Schulz wrote:
There is something else I want to say about the
3d-model: Too much vertices! The exterior model got
about 10.000 vertices, the interior without (!) the
cockpit and seats got about 10.000 vertices- I think
that's too much, my computer got problems with it.
That's
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Lee Elliott wrote:
The only
thing that slightly bothers me about someone passing off any of
my work as part of a FlightGear 2006 Professional package is
that I don't consider any of my work to be of commercial quality
and I wouldn't want
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Holger Wirtz wrote:
Hi,
does anyone know if there are considerations to add VATSIm Support to
FlightGear?
There have already been some threads about that topic on this mailing list.
In short: adding support isn't really possible due to licensing
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Jon S. Berndt wrote:
On Sunday 12 November 2006 06:21, Detlef Faber wrote:
There is a property /gear/gear[0]/compression-norm (at least in
yasim), you can use for that.
I seem to recall seeing similar variable in JSBsim as well, but I
don't have
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Tatsuhiro Nishioka wrote:
Source files that I used were:
FlightGear: cvs-head (as of yesterday)
PLIB-1.8.4
OpenSceneGraph: CVS-20061113
SimGear: CVS-head (as of yesterday), which I check out with cvs -
d :pserver:[EMAIL
On Friday 17 November 2006 09:56, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..the first line of section 0, states:
0. This License applies to any program or other work which contains a
notice placed by the copyright holder saying it may be distributed under
the terms of this General Public License., in the
TERMS
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Dene wrote:
Hi Curt, thanks for re-affirming that,
I am still a little unsure on some things;
As long as I'm using images in a positive manner then it's OK? who makes
the judgement call on whether my use is positive or not?
Who do you ask to
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Norman Vine wrote:
So the question is
1: Are screenshots a result of running the program
or
2: Are screenshots a work based on the program
I would argue (1)
That's the point: it's arguable if it's 1 or 2. But wheter it's 1 or 2
putting the
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Stefan Seifert wrote:
With the CVS-HEAD version of FG I'm experiencing periodic hangs if I
start at KSFO.
I finally have found out more about the problem. It vanishes if I
deactivate the Nimitz scenario. So it must be something in it, that
causes
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
Also keep in mind that the xml parser will not accept the following
PropertyList include=foo include=bar
The question here is: is this valid XML?
No it's not valid. In such cases space delimited lists are usually used:
PropertyList include=foo bar
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Major A wrote:
As I wrote in the original email, you don't need to. The only two
things missing in the (free) demo compared to what you get on DVD is
the scenery (which you don't need anyway) and joystick input after the
first 6 minutes have
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Curtis Olson wrote:
Want to use an sql database with
flightgear at runtime? Better find an embedded database tool that is
binary
compatible across all platforms ... and is open source ... and compiles on
all the platforms we support ... !
Well,
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Douglas Campos wrote:
wouldn't be good a list of standard controls? in fact, if i remember,
some time ago that utility that tossed out config files for some
joystick, uses properties assignment...
Not any more. Nowadays it uses
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Nick Warne wrote:
Hi Curt,
Just subsitute 'ALT' with 'title', thus:
- ALT=e000n00 48.44 Mb 1/17/2006
+ title=e000n00 48.44 Mb 1/17/2006
Not exactly. In HTML the alt attribute is mandatory and everyone who
surfs with text browsers or
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Julien Pierru wrote:
Those videos were taken last year by pigeon. Shavlir, Dave Culp and I were
flying the aircraft in these videos. They would look great on the FG home
page.
Good idea!
They use a free flash video player (FlowPlayer).
But
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Curtis Olson wrote:
I'm not aware of a way to do that. The trick would be for me to find the
original files ... which might be a trick. What's the deadline?
Of course it's possible and very easy, too.
http://www.arrakis.es/~rggi3/youtube-dl/
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Melchior FRANZ wrote:
* Curtis Olson -- Thursday 05 April 2007:
It really looks like it might be some sort of osg bug (or possibly
our usage of osg?)
Yes. I can confirm the bug, even for KSFO:
http://members.aon.at/mfranz/osg-rendering.jpg
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Reagan Thomas wrote:
I have seen some of the discussions regarding multi-threading and I
understand the desire to limit the complexity of program flow. However,
I think that at least *some* specific file IO should be arranged such
that it is
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For your weekly CVS summary log reading pleasure I hacked up a little
Perl script that merges similar entries, so:
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
2007-04-25_23:12:42 (sydadams)
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James Palmer wrote:
1- add missles to submodels
Please at least spell it correctly: missile ;)
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Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
While development over the past few years might give the preception that
Flightgear is a game, Flightgear is actually meant to be a serious flight
simulator. Things that go boom are cool in games, but they are also
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James Palmer wrote:
In your experience, Harald, what has been the approximate ratio of FDM vs
Graphics vs remainder code on CPU time? Has anyone done work on clocking
the various subroutines in FG to determine this? (Perhaps I underestimate
the
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Martin Spott wrote:
Personally I think some thing like distributed shared memory might fill
the gap. I've been doing some literature research on this topic several
years ago, the idea looks pretty promising and different OpenSource
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Curtis Olson wrote:
Would you be willing to hack/fixup/modify the original script so that it
produces correct results directly? The issue is that it combines files
with the same cvs log message and commit date, but sometimes a commit spans
a
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Harald JOHNSEN wrote:
That was in the situation where the MP server does the fdm computation
for the client. The 10 hz comes from a ping of 100 ms between the client
and the server.
I think FDM caculations have to be at a certain rate,
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Curtis Olson wrote:
I've discovered that I really love the AN-2 and the new fly-by view mode!
I've posted a youtube video of the FlightGear AN-2 landing at Ranger Creek,
WA (taken with a cheesy digital camera pointed at my computer screen ...):
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Forums Virgin Net wrote:
C:\Documents and settings\userACCOUNT1\Application Data\Flightgear.org
C:\Documents and settings\userACCOUNT2\Application Data\Flightgear.org
Etc.
It would be useful to create flightgear.osg and flightgear.plib
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Bill Galbraith wrote:
I agree that his actions are slimy, but is this action actually an allowable
form of packaging this software. I am not an expert on this matter, by any
stretch of the imagination, but if I put FG and all of the available
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Curtis Olson wrote:
On 6/14/07, Bill Galbraith wrote:
But he has changed the name of the product and removed all reference to
FlightGear in his ad, that has to at least be a copyright infringement???
FlightGear is not public domain where any one
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Hi,
I noticed, that you are still not using the new script to send the
commit messages, that I sent a few weeks ago. Is there some problem with
the script or did you just not come around yet to test it?
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John Denker wrote:
If you want to know exactly why FGFS poops out at approximately
62,000 feet, look at line 88 of Environment/environment.cxx
You can contrast that with the ISA table that goes up to 278,000
feet as found e.g. at the
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Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
In a vehicle simulation, you need smooth terrain, meaning high resolution
terrain. In a flight simulation, you want low resolution terrain because you
are seeing so much terrain at a time. The two requirements go
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John Denker wrote:
Let me also point out that the word gremlin is in the dictionary.
Its primary meaning explains exactly the purpose of gremlins.nas.
Please consider, that not by far not all FG contributors are native
English speakers and thus
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leee wrote:
It is difficult to see a good answer to this issue. On the one hand,
planning
ahead and setting specific objectives for the FG developers to work towards
would give known objectives and a clear development path but at the same
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Curtis Olson wrote:
Unfortunately,
giving access to this last step of uploading content would involve personal
passwords and the ability to affect my paypal account and a few other
things
that I'm somewhat nervous about handing off.
Isn't there
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AnMaster wrote:
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
[...] In the PLIB branch
we should rather make SDL default, as freeglut is notoriously broken
(repeatable keys; reportedly slower FPS(?)). And in the OSG branch [...]
We shouldn't: fg/SDL breaks on Swedish
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AnMaster wrote:
Well without a 3D cockpit I don't think it would fit in the base package.
Basically the lack of a decent cockpit would put off users.
I really liked the 737, but unfortunately it's been completely unusable
for me since I got a wide
Christian Mayer wrote:
About the image size: people are looking at the screenshots with their
web browser. So there are window borders, menus, navigation bar, etc.
pp. that also have to fit on the monitor. And it's quite bad if the
customer has to scroll to see the full beauty of our
Curtis Olson wrote:
Don't bother listening to Melchior, he's busy coming up with absurdly long
strings of obscure unix commands that are just a huge waste of time to
type. You can do the same check with this much simpler command and save 26
key strokes (if you start in the aircraft
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 15:16:29 Vivian Meazza wrote:
I've been testing this patch for some while now. I would strongly recommend
anyone who uses multiplayer to use it. There is no obvious downside, but as
Till said, there is more work to be done. It really needs lots of people to
give
On Monday, 24. March 2008, George Patterson wrote:
However, if someone would like to see what has been done, please drop
me a private email.
Is there a Perl programmer in the audience?
Yep, there is ;)
If you want me to do some review or have some area where you could need some
help, just
On Sunday, 13. April 2008, James Sleeman wrote:
On Sat, 2008-04-12 at 14:59 +0100, LeeE wrote:
Does it segfault every time or is it inconsistent? I'm about a week
Everytime. I'll try rolling back to an older OSG when I get a chance.
Just a note: I'm having the same problem since 2.3.7. A
On Saturday 26 April 2008 21:08:15 Georg Vollnhals wrote:
Sorry for that - my new O/S OpenSUSE 10.3 has some difficulties with my
hardware-clock - at least using Wine changes the time and day and I have
to correct that manually. And a time-jump would be nicer backwards
regarding my age :-)
I
On Sunday 27 April 2008 23:53:01 Georg Vollnhals wrote:
default 0
timeout 8
clock=hpet
This is wrong. The kernel parameters are following the file name in
the kernel line. This is the section I boot on my server:
###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux###
title
On Monday, 28. April 2008, Georg Vollnhals wrote:
But checking the result is disappointing. I did it after 3 boot cycles
(2 reboot and one cold boot):
dhcppc2:/home/georg # cat
/sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/current_clocksource
tsc
Maybe your system simply doesn't have a hpet
On Monday 01 September 2008 15:44:50 Manfred Janßen wrote:
Hi there,
is it possible, to display some of the flight data, like heading,
altitude, airspeed in the screen if flightgear is in chase view?
And if, can you give me a short hint where to search for that?
Most of the time, you can
On Tuesday, 16. September 2008, Saurabh Gupta wrote:
this is
ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
That's six generations and seven years behind current graphics hardware. I
don't know too much about FG's requirements, but I'd bet that this card just
doesn't match
Hi,
attached is a little patch for the f16. It's VRP is obviously wrong, when
watching turns on the ground from outside. I did standard
slipping-of-the-edge tests and found an x-value of -180in to improve the
situation a lot.
Regards,
Nine
? Aircraft/f16/initfile.xml
Index:
On Sunday, 05. October 2008, Alexis Bory - xiii wrote:
Heiko Schulz wrote:
Forgot ne aircraft: the F14 is really nice and has a lot of features!
It should be in the package!
Thanks :-)
BTW: I'm currently preparing an important update, there will be a lot of
changes and cleaning made on
On Friday, 17. October 2008, Tobias Nielsen wrote:
I have a version in my svn repository that i am doing active
development on several different machines. I am not allowed to do any
commits to the repository before the code is in a somewhat stable
state. For that reason i each time perform a
On Thursday, 13. November 2008, Curtis Olson wrote:
How much memory do you have? Is it possible to add some memory to get
yourself up to maybe at least 512Mb total?
Just a side note: even 512MB is very little nowadays for FG. I'm running with
1GB and am very much looking forward to getting
On Monday 17 November 2008 09:20:14 James Turner wrote:
In the past I've worked on binary distributions for various GL-based
projects on Linux, one using VTK and one using OGRE. In both cases we
ended up shipping libstdc++ as well - in order to have a chance at
portability, the only externals
On Thursday 27 November 2008 16:21:45 Frederic Bouvier wrote:
- Curtis Olson a écrit :
The solution is to draw transparent objects in sorted order back to
front ... including clouds ... so in this case it appears that the 3d
clouds are being drawn before the 2d cloud layers, and in
On Wednesday, 03. December 2008, Jon Stockill wrote:
Just out of interest which version of OSG are people planning to link
the release against? Are we going to wait for a 2.8 release, or go with
one of the 2.7 developer releases?
Looking at previous OSG release dates (2.2 October, 2.4 April,
On Monday, 12. January 2009, Alexis Bory - xiii wrote:
Also, using gdb prevents this segfault to appear. It looks like having
a timming issue in the different processes.
When it's not reproducible with gdb, you can enable core dumps with ulimit -c
unlimited before running FG. If it crashes it
On Monday 12 January 2009 15:29:43 gerard robin wrote:
On lundi 12 janvier 2009, Erik Hofman wrote:
True, but this requires a base package update to work correctly. Which
is better to delay a few days so the binary only bugfix release can get
released.
Ouups
sorry i thought that we
On Wednesday, 21. January 2009, Martin Spott wrote:
b) The GPL states that You may charge a fee for the physical act of
transferring a copy, [...], but You may not copy, modify, sublicense,
or distribute the Program except as expressly provided under this
License.
Now, how would you
On Thursday, 22. January 2009, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
Since it appears as though JSBSim will use the product identifiers
(e.g..Boeing 737) in a descriptive manner, and no profit will be derived
from said usage, then we have no objection to inclusion of the product
identifiers on the software.
On Thursday, 22. January 2009, Tim Moore wrote:
We can't say that all the models in the repository are covered by the GPL
and have models in there that are not. This is a terrible trap for anyone
wanting to use FlightGear in any professional setting.
Please do not confuse the software license
On Wednesday, 28. January 2009, Jon S. Berndt wrote:
Is there sometimes confusion as to how or where to apply changes to JSBSim
code or aircraft models? Do we need to work on easing the process of
integration into FlightGear? More frequent synchs? (we'd need additional
volunteers, and/or I'd
On Wednesday, 28. January 2009, John Denker wrote:
On 01/28/2009 02:25 AM, Erik Hofman wrote:
I didn't check it myself yet, but every once in a while I have to do a
'make clean' before 'make install' for this sort of things (both for
Simgear and FlightGear)
Good advice; thanks.
Alas
On Wednesday, 28. January 2009, John Denker wrote:
Ridiculing the bug report will not make the bug go away.
I did not want to ridicule the report in any way. Apologies if it came like
that. I just wanted to point out, that measuring memory usage unfortunately
is not as easy as it looks (no,
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 14:16:23 Matthew Barousse wrote:
Hey all,
I'm currently attempting to modify flight gear, so that I may save and
re-play flights, exactly like the instant replay feature, but with a save
file.
My next task is to implement a save-to-file feature. I was thinking the
On Tuesday 17 March 2009 13:34:19 Curtis Olson wrote:
Here's a question: Does a 3rd party have the
right to ask for the modified source code, even if none of the entities
receiving the modified program don't care to ask for the source code?
In short: no. The GPL doesn't require any rights for
On Tuesday 17 March 2009 14:11:38 Ron Jensen wrote:
On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 13:43 +0100, Stefan Seifert wrote:
On Tuesday 17 March 2009 13:34:19 Curtis Olson wrote:
Here's a question: Does a 3rd party have the
right to ask for the modified source code, even if none of the entities
On Thursday, 14. May 2009, Matthew Gibson wrote:
Sorry, I can't figure out how to reply to messages on mailing lists.
But I found the issue.
jssuper .h and .cxx don't assume the joystick numbers are in order. They
use a first and last variable, as well as an activeJoysticks number of
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