Re: FLUXLIST: a crappy idea

2000-02-08 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; not a bad idea to listen in. please post the list. thanks T. tark wrote: ok, many of you may think that this is a useless post, so if you don't wanna be bothered be it, delete this.ok-i found this mailing list online, about austrian culture, particularly german influences in

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fluxus in canada

2000-02-27 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Thanks for (Geoff Hendricks) full name and links, Allen and Pauline (Oliveros). The performance I saw was 13 years ago?! Funny it was like I saw it yesterday. I think your post stired my memories of that performance and his telling me about Fluxus. Incidentally Hank Bull of

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fluxus in canada

2000-02-27 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Apparently they are two of the most productive stores in the western region. The first Vancouver Starbucks then called Il Giornali, One at that location and the other at the Waterfront Seabus Station. The second Robson and Thurow was added a few years later in a newly built

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fluxus in canada

2000-02-27 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; sure! Give me a week or two to get the T-shirts together. T. Rod Stasick wrote: Could each one of you take a photo, across the street, of the other one thru each one's window? Rod

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fluxus in canada

2000-02-27 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; The problem is propriatory and that we need permission. The exercise would have to be along the lines of professional quality broadcast quality to get them to agree. Just taking a picture of each other from inside the store or at an exterior store can be an issue. I like the

Re: FLUXLIST: Still Snowing Still Dreaming (a snowman I should turn to be)

2000-03-02 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Roger Stevens wrote: what's going to happen to all that other snow will it just melt away or will some archivist with a fridge preserve it? Terrence writes; I do not know thee, but this is brilliant! *l* T.

FLUXLIST: http://www.thehungersite.com/

2000-03-10 Thread Terrence J Kosick
http://www.thehungersite.com/ Terrence writes; Good day all. If you have a moment please visit the nonprofit hunger site by John Breen. There is a map of the world that indicates, by dimming, a place in the world where someone dies of hunger. Up to 24,000 people, mostly childeren every day!

Re: FLUXLIST: Why?

2000-03-24 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; On of my most memorable art school classes/teachers at the U of British Columbia was Roy Kyookas's 3 yr. class on studio art communication. It was a 6 unit class. We were to meet once a week. Everyone showed up the first day except Roy. That was it. We later were told by the

Re: FLUXLIST: RTMark/Whitney

2000-03-24 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; I think it is about being recognized for their work in a traditional institution. There is also the issue of being ligitimized? I think they (®™ark ) don't care about that too much. I belive they are mostly into getting higher profile for their agitprop. Seems ok to me. They

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Why?

2000-03-25 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; This is a good point Heiko. The goodness of the roots of reality and depth of meaning always seems to get boiled out by the constant attendance. Why does everything end up like clichés? If anyone read my earlier post of the reminiscences of art school one could easily surmise

Re: FLUXLIST: 1) C'mon, Heiko. 2) Footnote to Davidson G.

2000-03-26 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Ken Friedman wrote: In this, George Maciunas and Charlotte Moorman were both pioneers, colleagues and heroes. And if George was occasionally cranky, look at it this way: if you worked full time much of your life to support the vast range of publications, festivals, etc., that George supported

Re: FLUXLIST: Recent posts

2000-04-02 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Heiko Recktenwald wrote: There's also talk about the virtual as well as real elimination of the jewel box -- this new "simplicity" crossed with a technologically Do you want this ? Elimination of LP covers etc, THINGS, I liked them. Terrence writes; Simplyfy your life with 'highend'

Re: FLUXLIST: Sensitive Issues

2000-04-02 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; I find it sad how many artits are taught to be so critical. They seem to create under such burdons and with theortical restraints. I am anti bordom. Everyone born a child. I can see more clearly what is ahead as I respond to what is before me not behind. Why relive what is

Re: FLUXLIST: Recent posts

2000-04-03 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; It is interesting for all to note. Interactive Multimedia CD roms continue to be more popular in France (and Europe I imagine). They are in pocket book sized packages and lined up like books with great selection and variety that you have to carefully browse. Wereas in North

Re: FLUXLIST: Recent posts--icons

2000-04-04 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; One senior artist told me once, "artists can't be (ethically) environmentalists". I didn't agree but i saw his point. It did not stop me from producing art about my environmental anti consumer concerns. I still make use of my utility of pleasure but there is pleasure in the

Re: FLUXLIST: Calling All MiniDiscs!

2000-04-05 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; sure; artnatural 103-980 west 22nd Ave Vancouver B.C. V5Z-2A1 Player/ recorder, have a good mike as well. T. Lord Hasenpfeffer wrote: I have an idea. If you have a MiniDisc player let me know. What's your snail-mailing address? Myke

Re: FLUXLIST: hide

2000-04-17 Thread Terrence J Kosick
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Re: FLUXLIST: hide in fridge

2000-04-19 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Now how to rid those fridge odors?! T. Patricia wrote: I found Dave - he was in the fridge!!! http://www.migros.ch/index2.php3?lang=dlangchange=position=sublink_key= At 05:04 PM 04/19/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Hola Dave Baptiste! > >Didn't know you were here. Welcome! Welcome! >

Re: FLUXLIST: Thin Pop, Thick Pop, Thoughtful Pop

2000-04-20 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Ken Friedman wrote: Fluxus had its problems, too. One of greatest Fluxus virtues was also its worst problem: a rigorous, almost scientific program of inventing ways to approach art. These explorations were part of a broad intellectual project on which many contemporary art movements and

Re: FLUXLIST: Fridge Over Troubled Water--Stories and sonics.

2000-04-25 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; I often have conversations make casual comments about sounds to the point where it's "oh look at that" = "oh listen to that". Also to tapping on things. Which ia a little more eccentric but rewarding. People seem to appreciate these ecentricvities and equate it to having a rare

Re: FLUXLIST: Here's another vote for greater care with the reply function

2000-04-26 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Warning! Slightly off topic. You know maybe that's why some people risk being assholes is exactly because it makes life more interesting. The question is does one have to a be a relevant or irrelevant asshole to make life more interesting or to prove a point or to respectfully

Re: FLUXLIST: forward: talking vaginas

2000-04-27 Thread Terrence J Kosick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's probably Rudy's idea of how to give a woman an orgasm . . . Terrence writes; *lmao* T,

Re: FLUXLIST: Does Anyone Know???

2000-04-27 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Never judge a book by its cover. T. Rod Stasick wrote: sounds intriguing, but i don't know - it sounds like my copy of "an endless adventure...an endless passion...an endless banquet - a situationist scrapbook" that's right now ruining the book it's sitting next to on

Re: FLUXLIST: Does Anyone Know???

2000-04-28 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; If books could talk what would they say to each other? Thinking about that makes me wonder just how careful you have to be when shelving. I moved recently and built 3x 8'long 2 level shelves. I shift and sort and find I am reviewing my books and discovering which are read or

Re: FLUXLIST: Does Anyone Know???

2000-04-28 Thread Terrence J Kosick
in my velvet cell. T. Jay Marvin wrote: Every book I own screams in pain! I need a bigger apartment here in Chicago! My bookshelves are like American prisons. . .they suffer from overcrowding. Jay Terrence J Kosick wrote: Terrence writes; If books could talk what would they say

Re: FLUXLIST: The Early Video Project

2000-05-06 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; The Early Video Project site is an important link to the past for new media. Way to go Davidson Gigliotti. The Early Video Project Supported by; Emily Harvey of the Emily Harvey Gallery, New York; and Francesco Conz, Editions Francesco Conz, Verona, Italy. terrence kosick

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus Pebble

2000-05-07 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; The Fable of the Fluxus Pebble... "...a my little fluxter, you will know only when you can take the Fluxus Pebble from my hand..." T. Rod Stasick wrote: --- allen bukoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first rule of Fluxus is not to talk about Fluxus. I

Re: FLUXLIST: arts journal

2000-05-07 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; eww!!! cat fight! T. Patricia wrote: Heiko Recktenwald wrote: http://www.artsjournal.com/Arts%20beat.htm worth reading! Why ? Because of the magic word "art" ? Could you explain ? The worth is in the content and needs no explanation.

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus Pebble

2000-05-08 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; the secret is the reply e-mail and Patricia wrote: And only then will the little fluxter (fluxter??? I would think fluxer) achieve enlightenment? Or is the fable of the pebble feeble and peppered with handy parables? What is the sound of one pebble passing from the

Re: FLUXLIST: Napster/ArtsJournalArticle/ArtistsRights

2000-05-08 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; I think trading is OK. Kids used to trade pogs. It's not much different with pop music that is specifically aimed at exploiting a youth market, especially Metalica; ~pogs dun dun dun dun draang drannng dun dun dun dun dun pogs pogs pogs.~ T. Sol Nte wrote: - all the

Re: FLUXLIST: Napster/ArtsJournalArticle/ArtistsRights

2000-05-08 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Paintings are different. They are more like a fabulous concert played only once. They are one of a kind. (Mp3's are more like cheap posters but better). Packaged and distributed cd's are the fancy seriographs. But you know the new money making concept for soft media. Design once

Re: FLUXLIST: Napster/ArtsJournalArticle/ArtistsRights

2000-05-08 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes, Minidisc and has the size and tactilty and physical archiving/ labeling and I prefer. Anything that makes the recording and handling pleasurable is great. syquest 135 is/was better to use and faster but zip became the standard. Even if it gets skipped as a standard Minidisc

FLUXLIST: The Brad Brace 24hr Dance Beat

2000-05-08 Thread Terrence J Kosick
The Brad Brace 24hr Dance Beat 12hr-images in UK music-clubs! All you animals hop to the beat all you animals look at the floor all those blurs are movin' feet movin' to the sound bad bad sound movin' them up and movin' them down buildings rockin' in your town I can hear the dogs

Re: FLUXLIST: Napster/ArtsJournalArticle/ArtistsRights

2000-05-09 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; excellent intuitive set up. I'll check it out minidisco.com now. btw can you control off the unit, as is there a way to remote pause/record on the mic line in? Nice to have a hand on the unit (he he) but it is slippery, I added stick on neopream bumpers on my sony minidisc

Re: FLUXLIST: Napster/ArtsJournalArticle/ArtistsRights

2000-05-09 Thread Terrence J Kosick
{ brad brace } wrote: I was most surprised 'to hear' that all the chants and stomping that the fans do during the game are prompted by prerecorded/broadcasts in the stadium. Terrence writes; It is even less obvious to all, but the thinking eye and mind, that the art

Re: FLUXLIST: RE: 2

2000-05-10 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; yes! The aural world of random sounds is as varied as the random ocular one. I hope we can hear orchestrations from the list. Perhaps we can start trading sounds. Anyone? I am looking to get a deal on a Macki digital mixing board. Ideas anyone? T. Heiko Recktenwald wrote:

Re: FLUXLIST: net-economies (was napster, etc.)

2000-05-14 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Beam it http://click.mp3.com/c/c_bDab/n_286662834/u_my/ T. Lord Hasenpfeffer wrote: I have no clue yet as to how MP3s are actually created.

Re: FLUXLIST: Art and Economies

2000-05-16 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; I'd be interested in the things economic theorists have to say that relate to artists. Aritsts as manufactures of artifacts as well as artist as promoters of creative concepts. I am currently developing a few creative commerce ideas inspired by the net. Keep in mind there are

Re: FLUXLIST: Imagine

2000-05-16 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; imagine there's no heaven, above us on--ly sky ..imagine all the p-e-o-p-l-e liv-ing for to-day -ey ey iii T. { brad brace } wrote: I'm glad you said it ;) On Tue, 16 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: God this is insufferable!!!

Re: FLUXLIST: Imagine

2000-05-16 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; It's a belief system. If you belive there is something, there is, because you think. I mean if you belive in God you have to belive in the devil angels etc. It's not about being rational, but then purly rational beings are sort of boring and perhaps even preditory. Heaven and

Re: FLUXLIST: Art and Economies

2000-05-17 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; It's a game of time. Time is money and it takes time to make art. Independence is bought with obscurity. Face it many artist's are made popular by those who's interests are in trade. Some artits are good at making themselves popular and available to those interests. Others trade

Re: FLUXLIST: Art and Economies

2000-05-17 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Being resourceful is part of the fun. I did a series of large paintings using iron grindings from a nearby brake shop. I used some pickling vinegar to produce a precipitate of iron which imparted rich brown orange hues to the canvas. I used acrylic washes afterwards and later

Re: FLUXLIST: Congratulations !

2000-05-18 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; He probably needs a new roof. T. "Villani, Adam" wrote: Umm I understand Newton's case, but the Beastie Boys song is 8 years old... what took him so long?

Re: FLUXLIST: Abe Lincoln Speaks.... and Lao Tzu

2000-05-18 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Telkwkce wrufogs; Wokjwf klfheb vesmoniws bohby goljinq. hijvac.

Re: FLUXLIST: Imagine

2000-05-19 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Right on George~! T. George Free wrote: After the talk I was reading a Linux user group newspaper I picked up that included a short article by Richard Stallman talking about the origin of copyright and how he thought that it was originally devised to protect creators and was now being used by

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-19 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; I don't agree with this. Duchamp, in a purely objective practical way, was a sort of a clever aragont lazy artist and he was not a professional painter. He was more of a dabbler and and a chess player and mostly unemployed. He talked more than he produced art. I don't feel

Re: FLUXLIST: Bureaucracy and Eddy Edwards

2000-05-13 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Sounds like a script about bureaucracy and those who get a thrill from enforcing rules and regulations. It reminds me of a siding salesman (among other professions) named Eddy Edwards. Eddy used to work out at a gym popular with young jocks and professional players and a few

Re: FLUXLIST: Strong Buy Recommendation - last one went up 125% since April 13(fwd)

2000-05-15 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Strong caution. Any stock promoted that has anything to do with Vancouver is questionable. 'Strong dip' is the promoters and pals tripling etc their cash. tempting but naaa T.

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-20 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Art is commercial the moment you seek to engage it as "culture". ie in the culture industry. Duchamp was revoultutionalry thinker for the arts but not necessrily a revolutionary professional artist. He canged the art making oeuvre but for other artists with their

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-20 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes Postitution is an honest exchange at a fair market value or as supply and demand and it never seeks to qualify for grants to support it. I abohore patriarchy as an infantile wish. I see Duchamp as a creator of ideas that some pick up on. It's not a rule, like a lesson from daddy

Re: FLUXLIST: the creative act

2000-05-21 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; ok ok i am playing devils advocate (and being a bit playful) but really one must go on you have to look at the circumstances of the time. He was way ahead of his time but so were others. People still paint and many more paint and don't know a thing of the 1913 armory show. I

Re: FLUXLIST: ANNALEE NEWMAN, 1909-2000

2000-05-24 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; What would Greenburg say? Another part of the past passes. I can remember seeing the film Painter's Painting in 1985 and listening to Barnet Newman's good faith and feeling so enthusiastic about painting. Those were the days and things have changed since 1985. Something

Re: FLUXLIST: ANNALEE NEWMAN, 1909-2000

2000-05-25 Thread Terrence J Kosick
. -T.S. Eliot Terrence J Kosick wrote: Terrence writes; What would Greenburg say? Another part of the past passes. I can remember seeing the film Painter's Painting in 1985 and listening to Barnet Newman's good faith and feeling so enthusiastic about painting. Those were

Re: FLUXLIST: Napster/ArtsJournalArticle/ArtistsRights

2000-05-11 Thread Terrence J Kosick
He who paints good gets stoned first. T.

Re: FLUXLIST: mp3s

2000-05-18 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; How do people with large collections of music listen to them all on a any regular basis? Consider if you listen to music more often than books then the fact that when a thing is collected and put away it suffers a sort of silence, a little prisoner of commodification for which

Re: FLUXLIST: love seeing my name the subject heading

2000-06-05 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; at times we feel we are but a fiction artnatural

Re: FLUXLIST: Mo***ento removed

2000-06-22 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; wrong? He/she is some whacked dude posting personal and sexual degrading comments. Every society has moderating filters. Protecting it's members' esteem should be every lists' moderators priority. In the case of free speech societies' freedoms unchecked can lead to degradation

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: stamps (for fluxlist?)

2000-06-28 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; I almost forgot about this. Personalized stamps. I wonder of the many clever ways this can be utilized? This might be a fun way of getting some good publicity by jamin` with the post's latest thang. Just what are the costs and the restrictions? T. artnatural. I will be out of

Re: FLUXLIST: My Blue Poop

2000-06-28 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Very clever passing note for art school. Blue poop beats beets. ;-) T. James Smith wrote: I am a lurker, but Champoy's post prompted me to write. I have just recently graduated University in May 2000. In one of my final courses, entitled "Experimental Concepts," we were

Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #370

2000-07-05 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Fluxlist Calculus many people + much crap = much confusion T. Andrew Dalio wrote: I'm a little confused. How can so many people put out so much pretentious crap 4 times a day? Just wondering, -andrew

Re: FLUXLIST: WANTED

2000-07-06 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Some have been trying for years. I have greatfully accepted my role in the fluxlist e-mail performance. T. Ilya Monosov wrote: PLEASE GET ME OF THIS LIST. EMAIL ME AT [EMAIL PROTECTED] to tell me how i can get the hell of it!! sorry to be rude, but i tried asking and i

Re: FLUXLIST: galleries

2000-07-09 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; This is possible online with co-creation. In Physical spaces. Areas of neutrality; line ups and waiting areas are possible places for artistic encounters. I have also used public bulletin boards at a local university. I mounted bulletin boards at a cafe gallery but the

Re: FLUXLIST: galleries

2000-07-09 Thread Terrence J Kosick
erratum: It should read; public artgallery and not public artillery. Terrence J Kosick wrote: The public * artillery * here have a art creation area that parallels the current exhibition with thematically media, materials and ideas for the public to interact and create with/from

Re: FLUXLIST: Candy Rapper Opera

2000-07-09 Thread Terrence J Kosick
Terrence writes; Wierd!~ Coincidentaly I am writing the Candy Rapper Opera. (I am Scoring in some occasional voice bursts). I was inspired by my friends compliants of such irritations. T.