One issue that came up during beta testing was the paragraph sort order.
Some of you may have noticed that it changed in one of the FM8 patches.
Many of us created templates that had style names in a particular order
so that we could make easy use of keyboard shortcuts.
Prior to FM8p277, these two
Harrumph. I deleted the unzipped files, and unpacked the original file
again. NOW it automatically launched the setup.
-Carla
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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek,
Carla
Sent: Wednesday
Has anyone else been able to install the new release for FM9?
I downloaded the trial version yesterday, apparently successfully, and
unzipped it this morning. There is no installation or setup.exe file to
be found. Wonder if anyone else had the same problem?
-Carla
Folder/File Structure
Adobe
One issue that came up during beta testing was the paragraph sort order.
Some of you may have noticed that it changed in one of the FM8 patches.
Many of us created templates that had style names in a particular order
so that we could make easy use of keyboard shortcuts.
Prior to FM8p277, these two
Harrumph. I deleted the unzipped files, and unpacked the original file
again. NOW it automatically launched the setup.
-Carla
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek,
Carla
Sent: Wednesday
Has anyone else been able to install the new release for FM9?
I downloaded the trial version yesterday, apparently successfully, and
unzipped it this morning. There is no installation or setup.exe file to
be found. Wonder if anyone else had the same problem?
-Carla
Folder/File Structure
Adobe
Nancy -
You need the ShrinkwrapAsIs plugin.
See http://www.martinek.us/shrinkwrap.html to download it. Note: I run
it successfully with FM8, although I never bothered to update the web
page to say so.
-Carla
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:frame
Nancy -
You need the ShrinkwrapAsIs plugin.
See http://www.martinek.us/shrinkwrap.html to download it. Note: I run
it successfully with FM8, although I never bothered to update the web
page to say so.
-Carla
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:fram
We had the same problem, and solved it by placing our figure captions
ABOVE the figures. All figure and table captions are above the item they
are referencing, which creates a consistent look throughout our docs.
Why the standard has always been for table titles to be ABOVE and figure
captions to b
We had the same problem, and solved it by placing our figure captions
ABOVE the figures. All figure and table captions are above the item they
are referencing, which creates a consistent look throughout our docs.
Why the standard has always been for table titles to be ABOVE and figure
captions to b
The only grammar checker for Frame that I'm aware of is MAXit.
http://www.smartny.com/maxit.htm
I checked it out a couple of years ago, but never used it.
-Carla
***
Carla Martinek, Senior Translation Coordinator/Editor
Zebra Technologies Corporation
333 Corpo
The only grammar checker for Frame that I'm aware of is MAXit.
http://www.smartny.com/maxit.htm
I checked it out a couple of years ago, but never used it.
-Carla
***
Carla Martinek, Senior Translation Coordinator/Editor
Zebra Technologies Corporation
333 Corpo
The one compelling reason I had to upgrade to FM8 was unicode support.
One of my docs was a multi-lingual safety guide, and each language had
to be done separately, PDF'd on localized machines, and then each
language had to be assembled into the the final book.
This caused problems with some of ou
The one compelling reason I had to upgrade to FM8 was unicode support.
One of my docs was a multi-lingual safety guide, and each language had
to be done separately, PDF'd on localized machines, and then each
language had to be assembled into the the final book.
This caused problems with some of ou
riginal Message-
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Peter Gold
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:53 AM
To: Martinek, Carla
Cc: Lynn Durell; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM file per country for same software
Hi, Carla:
With all your conditions, I
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From: knowhowpro at gmail.com [mailto:knowhow...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Peter Gold
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:53 AM
To: Martinek, Carla
Cc: Lynn Durell; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FM file per country for same software
Hi, Carla:
With all your
Lynn -
>From my viewpoint, you are doing the right thing now. Moving away from
this method will cause you more problems down the road. However, you may
need to add additional conditional text settings to accommodate your
needs. (I assume you are storing the shared files on a network location
acces
Lynn -
>From my viewpoint, you are doing the right thing now. Moving away from
this method will cause you more problems down the road. However, you may
need to add additional conditional text settings to accommodate your
needs. (I assume you are storing the shared files on a network location
acces
I have reported this as a bug since FM 8 was released, and also in beta
testing of FM 9. I have let Adobe developers know, in no uncertain
terms, that this is a MAJOR issue. This sort order issue can invalidate
a user's templates which they have used for years.
Please see my entry on the Framemake
I have reported this as a bug since FM 8 was released, and also in beta
testing of FM 9. I have let Adobe developers know, in no uncertain
terms, that this is a MAJOR issue. This sort order issue can invalidate
a user's templates which they have used for years.
Please see my entry on the Framemake
The links in the ToC itself to the chapter title and subheadings. All
generated links in the ToC except for this one file work.
The file did contain text insets, but they were converted to normal
text, and the broken links still happened.
We also deleted the first xref marker in the file, on the
Generating a book with about 15 source files. There is one file that
will show up in the TOC with the correct headings, but the links are
broken.
Tried the following:
- MIFfing the file
- making a new container file and pasting the contents there
- deleting the existing TOC and forcing FM to cre
The links in the ToC itself to the chapter title and subheadings. All
generated links in the ToC except for this one file work.
The file did contain text insets, but they were converted to normal
text, and the broken links still happened.
We also deleted the first xref marker in the file, on the
Generating a book with about 15 source files. There is one file that
will show up in the TOC with the correct headings, but the links are
broken.
Tried the following:
- MIFfing the file
- making a new container file and pasting the contents there
- deleting the existing TOC and forcing FM to cre
OK... weird things are happening.
I've got some Spanish content where I changed the font family to Arial Unicode
(from plain old Arial). Accented characters suddenly developed massive spacing
around them - for example:
"s ? lo" instead of
"s?lo"
I need to specify a Unicode f
OK... weird things are happening.
I've got some Spanish content where I changed the font family to Arial Unicode
(from plain old Arial). Accented characters suddenly developed massive spacing
around them - for example:
"s ó lo" instead of
"sólo"
I need to specify a Unicod
FM 8:
Edit> Preferences> General
Commenting is at the top, and you can set the font and size there.
-Carla
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FM 8:
Edit> Preferences> General
Commenting is at the top, and you can set the font and size there.
-Carla
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A known bug (feature?) in FrameMaker is that if you use the Esc-m-p
Shrinkwrap command, it changes the anchor of the graphic from whatever
it was to At Insertion Point.
A smart Frame user wrote a small FDK plugin that preserves the settings
for an anchored frame when shrink wrapping. I received pe
A known bug (feature?) in FrameMaker is that if you use the Esc-m-p
Shrinkwrap command, it changes the anchor of the graphic from whatever
it was to At Insertion Point.
A smart Frame user wrote a small FDK plugin that preserves the settings
for an anchored frame when shrink wrapping. I received pe
Our solution is a bit different. We ran into issues with using content
from the reference pages, and found an alternative.
We use AutoText from Silicon Prairie Software. I created a menu that
allows us to insert pre-formatted tables, many already populated with
standard phrases and text, for our
Our solution is a bit different. We ran into issues with using content
from the reference pages, and found an alternative.
We use AutoText from Silicon Prairie Software. I created a menu that
allows us to insert pre-formatted tables, many already populated with
standard phrases and text, for our
This utility for FM7.x did resize many of the windows, including the
conditional text window. I also liked the way it streamlined and
removed some of the redundant information in the screens.
http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker36.html
Unfortunately, I don't think it will work on FM6.x, but you can t
This utility for FM7.x did resize many of the windows, including the
conditional text window. I also liked the way it streamlined and
removed some of the redundant information in the screens.
http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker36.html
Unfortunately, I don't think it will work on FM6.x, but you can t
Been using Frame since FM 3.0 on Mac back in 1990/91. Don't remember
when I found/first posted to the framers list, but it was a looong
time ago, probably under my maiden name.
Used it on Mac, Win, and Unix at various locations over the years. (Hey,
Adobe -- WE WANT MAC FRAME AGAIN!!!)
Was o
Been using Frame since FM 3.0 on Mac back in 1990/91. Don't remember
when I found/first posted to the framers list, but it was a looong
time ago, probably under my maiden name.
Used it on Mac, Win, and Unix at various locations over the years. (Hey,
Adobe -- WE WANT MAC FRAME AGAIN!!!)
Was o
Here's my personal list that I've put into my AutoText menu in Frame:
Copyright Symbol ... Alt+0169
Registered Symbol ... Alt+0174
Trademark Symbol ... Alt+0153
-
Straight Quote Single ... Ctrl+'
Straight Quote Double ... Esc "
Ellipses ... Alt+0133
Bullet ... Alt+0149
Endash ... Alt+0150
Emdash
I use them all the time, since they're application-independent.
Also good to know:
ALT+0153 = (tm)
ALT+0174 = (r)
-Carla
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Voyles
Sent: Thursday, January 24,
Here's my personal list that I've put into my AutoText menu in Frame:
Copyright Symbol ... Alt+0169
Registered Symbol ... Alt+0174
Trademark Symbol ... Alt+0153
-
Straight Quote Single ... Ctrl+'
Straight Quote Double ... Esc "
Ellipses ... Alt+0133
Bullet ... Alt+0149
Endash ... Alt+0150
Emdash
I use them all the time, since they're application-independent.
Also good to know:
ALT+0153 = (tm)
ALT+0174 = (r)
-Carla
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Voyles
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAI
I had my translators run a test a few months ago, and they pulled in
several code pages and languages into a single document, with no
problems. I had 30 different languages, including Eastern and Western
European languages, Cyrillic, and multiple Asian languages (zhcn, zhtw,
ko, ja). Unfortunatel
I had my translators run a test a few months ago, and they pulled in
several code pages and languages into a single document, with no
problems. I had 30 different languages, including Eastern and Western
European languages, Cyrillic, and multiple Asian languages (zhcn, zhtw,
ko, ja). Unfortunatel
Has anyone run into the infamous Scroll Back Bug in FM 8? (which was
nicely circumvented by Rick Quatro's runaroundnone.dll in FM7.2 and
earlier).
We just officially upgraded to FM 8, and as I look to install and/or
upgrade the various plugins and such that we've purchased, I wondered if
I should
Has anyone run into the infamous Scroll Back Bug in FM 8? (which was
nicely circumvented by Rick Quatro's runaroundnone.dll in FM7.2 and
earlier).
We just officially upgraded to FM 8, and as I look to install and/or
upgrade the various plugins and such that we've purchased, I wondered if
I should
I'm having a brain cramp... is there anything out there that helps
import HTML files decently into Frame?
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Thanks,
Carla
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I'm having a brain cramp... is there anything out there that helps
import HTML files decently into Frame?
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Thanks,
Carla
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One thing to consider if you have callouts that will need translating is
the expansion in the length of the callout. What terms might fit in the
space allotted in English may or may not in other languages. If they
don't fit, then the translators will need to manually resize the callout
frame (extra
One thing to consider if you have callouts that will need translating is
the expansion in the length of the callout. What terms might fit in the
space allotted in English may or may not in other languages. If they
don't fit, then the translators will need to manually resize the callout
frame (extra
ember 08, 2007 10:40 AM
To: Martinek, Carla; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Easiest way to migrate from one FM template to another
Carla Martinek said:
>
> A quick search brings up Chris' TemplateMapper (and other) files
posted
> on the freeframers site http://www.freef
A quick search brings up Chris' TemplateMapper (and other) files posted
on the freeframers site http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/ .
Shlomo links to this as well from the Microtype site
http://www.microtype.com/links.html.
-Carla
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er 08, 2007 10:40 AM
To: Martinek, Carla; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Easiest way to migrate from one FM template to another
Carla Martinek said:
>
> A quick search brings up Chris' TemplateMapper (and other) files
posted
> on the freeframers site http://www.freeframe
A quick search brings up Chris' TemplateMapper (and other) files posted
on the freeframers site http://www.freeframers.org/freeware/cud/ .
Shlomo links to this as well from the Microtype site
http://www.microtype.com/links.html.
-Carla
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Hallo, Verner:
There are several options for doing this.
1. FrameScript (Rick Quatro will surely chime in on this one... :-)
2. Paragraph Tools and Character Tools from Silicon Prairie
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/
3. ToolBox from Systec http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/toolbox.php
Hallo, Verner:
There are several options for doing this.
1. FrameScript (Rick Quatro will surely chime in on this one... :-)
2. Paragraph Tools and Character Tools from Silicon Prairie
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/
3. ToolBox from Systec http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/toolbox.php
Jim -
You don't need to run the archive plug-in on each book. What you can do
is generate an LOR (List of References) file. Showing text insets is
one of the options you can select when you create that file. You're
still going to have to touch multiple files and/or books, no matter what
you do.
Jim -
You don't need to run the archive plug-in on each book. What you can do
is generate an LOR (List of References) file. Showing text insets is
one of the options you can select when you create that file. You're
still going to have to touch multiple files and/or books, no matter what
you do.
-Original Message-
How would you maintain these files?
Conditional text? Separate books?
Short Answer: Yes to both.
Long Answer:
You're thinking about this the correct way. Break apart your content
into topical files (or modules). Then, within the modules, use
conditio
-Original Message-
How would you maintain these files?
Conditional text? Separate books?
Short Answer: Yes to both.
Long Answer:
You're thinking about this the correct way. Break apart your content
into topical files (or modules). Then, within the modules, use
conditio
These programs will also perform this function:
- Paragraph Tools from Silicon Prairie
(http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/)
- Toolbox from Systec (http://tinyurl.com/2p4yuo)
-Carla
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These programs will also perform this function:
- Paragraph Tools from Silicon Prairie
(http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/)
- Toolbox from Systec (http://tinyurl.com/2p4yuo)
-Carla
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The free version of Toolbox has an option to either Delete All or Delete
Unused colors from either a file or book.
You can also do the same with paragraph & character formats,
user-defined variables, x-ref formats, and table formats.
http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/toolbox.php
The paid versi
The free version of Toolbox has an option to either Delete All or Delete
Unused colors from either a file or book.
You can also do the same with paragraph & character formats,
user-defined variables, x-ref formats, and table formats.
http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/toolbox.php
The paid versi
Lin -
When you make your argument, specify your deliverables. That includes
printable PDFs, with TOC, Indexes, and an attractive, readable format
that pleases the customer and shows off the company to its best
advantage.
If RH cannot produce the required deliverables, then it is not the right
too
Lin -
When you make your argument, specify your deliverables. That includes
printable PDFs, with TOC, Indexes, and an attractive, readable format
that pleases the customer and shows off the company to its best
advantage.
If RH cannot produce the required deliverables, then it is not the right
too
-Original Message-
The first couple of pages of the Preface contain the doc info (audience,
scope, purpose, structure, etc.), and the stuff that's shared among the
docs is in the latter 3/4 of the Preface. Would it work to split it into
two files (the first part with all the doc-specific s
-Original Message-
The first couple of pages of the Preface contain the doc info (audience,
scope, purpose, structure, etc.), and the stuff that's shared among the
docs is in the latter 3/4 of the Preface. Would it work to split it into
two files (the first part with all the doc-specific s
Oh, yeah... two more things I remembered from the demos:
1 - you can embed a 3D image in Frame, and the user can manipulate it in
Acro Reader 8. They can change the lighting, rotate the object, change
it to wireframe, among other things.
2 - you can embed a Flash object directly in Frame. The s
-Original Message-
From: Diane Gaskill
My question is Why?? I suppose this is a little OT, but I cannot
imagine needing more than 10 conditions, even when you create PDF for
both computer screens and handhelds, and also help, as well as have 3 or
4 models of a product described in the sam
Oh, yeah... two more things I remembered from the demos:
1 - you can embed a 3D image in Frame, and the user can manipulate it in
Acro Reader 8. They can change the lighting, rotate the object, change
it to wireframe, among other things.
2 - you can embed a Flash object directly in Frame. The s
-Original Message-
From: Diane Gaskill
My question is Why?? I suppose this is a little OT, but I cannot
imagine needing more than 10 conditions, even when you create PDF for
both computer screens and handhelds, and also help, as well as have 3 or
4 models of a product described in the sam
Egads, did I do that??? And I'm the Editor for our group...
I blame it on jet lag -- oh, wait, I never left the Central time zone.
OK, I fall back on my original claim of informtion overload. My brain
is too full and its leeking. ;-)
-Carla
-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces
As previously stated, these are just "sneak peak" previews, and nothing
is guaranteed to make it in the final build.
For one, I'm pretty sure that they said that the DITA support will be
built in, and you won't have to download the DITA App Pack and install
it.
Improved conditional text handlin
Egads, did I do that??? And I'm the Editor for our group...
I blame it on jet lag -- oh, wait, I never left the Central time zone.
OK, I fall back on my original claim of informtion overload. My brain
is too full and its leeking. ;-)
-Carla
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From: [EMAIL PROTECT
As previously stated, these are just "sneak peak" previews, and nothing
is guaranteed to make it in the final build.
For one, I'm pretty sure that they said that the DITA support will be
built in, and you won't have to download the DITA App Pack and install
it.
Improved conditional text handlin
I sat in on a couple of the Adobe previews at the conference, and I'm
seriously looking forward to Framemaker.next.
We're 'thisclose' to converting to XML/Dita, and the feature
improvements and support I saw coming from Adobe in the next version
make me confident that staying in FM will be a smart
I sat in on a couple of the Adobe previews at the conference, and I'm
seriously looking forward to Framemaker.next.
We're 'thisclose' to converting to XML/Dita, and the feature
improvements and support I saw coming from Adobe in the next version
make me confident that staying in FM will be a smart
My favorite plate, seen a few years ago here in Chicago:
AU DIGR
-Carla
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-Carla
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Do not worry about changing the structure of your graphics as they are
used/stored on your network.
Instead, use the Archive plug-in to make an archive of your COMPLETED
doc before you send it to the translators. You can purchase Archive for
$25 at http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/Archive.ht
Do not worry about changing the structure of your graphics as they are
used/stored on your network.
Instead, use the Archive plug-in to make an archive of your COMPLETED
doc before you send it to the translators. You can purchase Archive for
$25 at http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/Archive.ht
-Original Message-
From: Bill Swallow
Agreed. I was surprised to see their announcement of 1st half of 2007,
to be honest. They usually hold their cards close.
Which realistically, at least in my mind, means we won't see it until
the end of Q3 at the earliest.
But we could be pleasantly
-Original Message-
From: Bill Swallow
Agreed. I was surprised to see their announcement of 1st half of 2007,
to be honest. They usually hold their cards close.
Which realistically, at least in my mind, means we won't see it until
the end of Q3 at the earliest.
But we could be pleasantly
Summary of the problem and solution:
1. I used a Framescript to change all text tagged with OLDTAG
to being tagged with NEWTAG. No text in any of the files is
tagged with OLDTAG at this time.
2. As the condition OLDTAG still existed in each file, I deleted
that unused condition
Summary of the problem and solution:
1. I used a Framescript to change all text tagged with OLDTAG
to being tagged with NEWTAG. No text in any of the files is
tagged with OLDTAG at this time.
2. As the condition OLDTAG still existed in each file, I deleted
that unused condition
OK, I'm stumped. Here's the situation:
I used Framescript to rename a conditional tag before I send a set of
book files out to someone else (renamed it to something making more
sense.) For this email, consider the tags as OLDTAG and NEWTAG.
I then deleted all unused condition tags using the P
OK, I'm stumped. Here's the situation:
I used Framescript to rename a conditional tag before I send a set of
book files out to someone else (renamed it to something making more
sense.) For this email, consider the tags as OLDTAG and NEWTAG.
I then deleted all unused condition tags using the PGF
Work with a translation vendor that uses Trados (now part of SDL), and
specifically the X-Translate module. Content that is a 100% match is
not touched at all, resulting in reduced costs. You pay only for
translations on the new content, and DTP/QA time for the entire book. I
currently do this w
Work with a translation vendor that uses Trados (now part of SDL), and
specifically the X-Translate module. Content that is a 100% match is
not touched at all, resulting in reduced costs. You pay only for
translations on the new content, and DTP/QA time for the entire book. I
currently do this w
Getting Frame to work in Arabic involves hacking the registry, among
other things. I don't know the specific details that my translators
used, but it was fairly complex and troublesome. They use it for some
small (1-2 pages) items that we need done, but for anything longer they
convert it to InDe
Getting Frame to work in Arabic involves hacking the registry, among
other things. I don't know the specific details that my translators
used, but it was fairly complex and troublesome. They use it for some
small (1-2 pages) items that we need done, but for anything longer they
convert it to InDe
Brad, please contact me. I'm trying to set my subscription to nomail
while I'm gone on vacation, else everyone will receive "out of office"
posts from my account.
Apparently the password I had on file isn't working, and there is no way
to get a reminder because the site is down.
Regards,
Carla
Brad, please contact me. I'm trying to set my subscription to nomail
while I'm gone on vacation, else everyone will receive "out of office"
posts from my account.
Apparently the password I had on file isn't working, and there is no way
to get a reminder because the site is down.
Regards,
Carla
There are multiple ways you can do this:
FrameScript (http://www.framescript.com/)
There is a free script available called ChangePgfFormat.fsl, but you
need to pay for FrameScript. However, there's a lot of other things you
can do with FrameScript, so it is definitely worth a look.
There are multiple ways you can do this:
FrameScript (http://www.framescript.com/)
There is a free script available called ChangePgfFormat.fsl, but you
need to pay for FrameScript. However, there's a lot of other things you
can do with FrameScript, so it is definitely worth a look.
http://www.intech.com/solutions/trackchanges/
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Here's a question: can I change what text shows in the bookmarks when
the PDF generates?
In our programming code documentation, they want the code on the first
line, and the explanation/title on the second line.
^CM
Change Memory Letter Designation
Description...
Format...
It's no
Here's a question: can I change what text shows in the bookmarks when
the PDF generates?
In our programming code documentation, they want the code on the first
line, and the explanation/title on the second line.
^CM
Change Memory Letter Designation
Description...
Format...
It's no
ToolBox from Systec will delete unused variables.
http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/toolbox.php
Download the installer, and then do not select any of the modules to
install. What installs at that point is the "free" utilities, which
include the option to delete unused:
- Paragraph Formats
- C
Hmm... LavaCon in Hawai'i is a good option. :-) http://www.lavacon.org/
I seriously thought about extending my vacation to stay for the conference this
year (my last day in Hawai'i was the first day of the conference earlier this
month).
Also one of the Frame Chatauquas or DITA 2007 would be
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