There is a brief mention of FrameMaker in the following article:
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1741
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
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Hi everyone,
For my company's various SDK programming guides, I've been told to stop
producing PDF versions, and switch to a single HTML page version for
each book. Of course, I would like to continue authoring in Frame, and
my quick initial tests using the FM save-as-HTML look not too
Well, depending on long your books are, this could be a really poor
idea if people have enough time to go down to Starbucks and get coffee
while the page loads.
The whole idea of web publishing is usually to have discrete chunks of
information / pages that are linked, not vice versa, so it
Interesting interview.
Expecting customers to use the tool that's most appropriate for the
job is kind of a stretch though. ;- )
Art
On 5/17/07, Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a brief mention of FrameMaker in the following article:
Thanks for the input Art. My books, though, are not large (only about 50
pages at this point). And also, I don't think this is a real issue
anymore. For an example of what I'm striving for, check out how Google
handles their API docs:
Yes, that would be exactly my point.
They break it up into multiple chapters / pages appropriate to the
content; they don't string it all together. 8 subtopics at the top
level, and diving down, 17 in the Developer's Guide, etc.
Art
On 5/17/07, Neil Tubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the
I considered using ePublisher, but I believe it always creates a
minimum of one HTML file per FM chapter. This would not work.
No, it creates one HTML file per topic.
John Posada
Senior Technical Writer
They say everyone needs goals. Mine is to live forever.
So far, so good.
Hi Gena,
This is not exactly it. It happens when an image has its Runaround
Properties set to something besides None and there is a text frame that
overlaps the image.
Rick
I'm not sure if this is the same issue I experienced, but I was told once
by FrameMaker (pre-Adobe) that this bug is
True, but what impressed me about that interview is
how he mentions a strategy. Microsoft's strategy has
been to move into home/business user applications
across the board, and Adobe's seems to be to move into
professional applications across the board, which
means that Frame will be promoted much
Just to be totally picky, there is no official number on the webpage that says
8 or 8.0 or anything like that. Of course, it is totally possible that Adobe
may have mentioned that exact product number a few times during their sneak
peaks at the STC conference :)
No official number has been
Hi Rene,
Open the document and press (in sequence) Escape F l k (where the l is a
lower-case L).
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
Hi All,
We've got an odd problem with an FM file (v 7.2b128 Win). When the doc
was released, the writer used the (timesaving
Hello Framers,
I need help with text formatting rules in an EDD. Basically, I am allowing
nesting of ol and ul elements. I need rules that will allow a particular
format to be called, depending on the nesting level. Here is an example of
flat structure. The text in the element indicates the
I sat in on a couple of the Adobe previews at the conference, and I'm
seriously looking forward to Framemaker.next.
We're 'thisclose' to converting to XML/Dita, and the feature
improvements and support I saw coming from Adobe in the next version
make me confident that staying in FM will be a
Even if you don't like his presentation, it is worth seeing the backflip he
does at the conclusion.
Rick
As an aside (and just to make Bernard blush, if that's possible), if you
ever get a chance to sit in on training or a presentation done by
Bernard, DO IT!!! I have to say that he was my
AH!!! THANK YOU!! Here's an e-kiss on the cheek!!
Rene
Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Rene,
Open the document and press (in sequence) Escape F l k (where the l is a
lower-case L).
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
Hi All,
Regardless, we're in the
Hi Rene,
Since you are giving out e-kisses, here is another way to do it in FrameMaker
7.2. Choose View Formatting Bar and click the icon that has the white page
and blue ribbon.
Rick
AH!!! THANK YOU!! Here's an e-kiss on the cheek!!
Rene
Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
As an aside (and just to make Bernard blush, if that's possible), if you
ever get a chance to sit in on training or a presentation done by
Bernard, DO IT!!! I have to say that he was my favorite presenter at
the conference (or maybe he just had the best and most interesting
material...) You'll
On a serious note, what was discussed about DITA support? Currently
the DITA package for FM has a few limitations and bigs (for example,
stripping all XML comments from the files on use). Any indication that
the DITA capabilities will be ready for prime time?
On 5/17/07, Martinek, Carla [EMAIL
At 12:58 -0400 17/5/07, Bill Swallow wrote:
Currently the DITA package for FM has a few limitations and bigs (for example,
stripping all XML comments from the files on use)
That sure sounds more like a big than a bug ;-)
--
Steve
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Hello Gillian,
Before answering your questions as best I can, anyone who is interested in
testing the beta version of the next release of FrameMaker should send an email
to this address:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adobe has not officially announced what the release will be called, but as a
beta-tester
D'oh! Sorry. I must still be working off all that Sapporo... and that
was several years ago! ;-)
On 5/17/07, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 12:58 -0400 17/5/07, Bill Swallow wrote:
Currently the DITA package for FM has a few limitations and bigs (for example,
stripping all XML
...and one for the other cheek, too. :-)
Rene
Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Rene,
Since you are giving out e-kisses, here is another way to do it in FrameMaker
7.2. Choose View Formatting Bar and click the icon that has the white page
and blue ribbon.
Rick
--- Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need help with text formatting rules in an EDD.
Basically, I am allowing
nesting of ol and ul elements. I need rules that
will allow a particular
format to be called, depending on the nesting level.
Here is an example of
flat structure. The text
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:02:13 -0400
To: STC LW SIG
From: Stephen O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FrameScript - give a script to a colleague
Hi,
I have FrameScript and want to share a script
with a colleague. Does that person also have to
have FrameScript (i.e., buy a 2nd license) on
Yes.
Art
On 5/17/07, Stephen O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:02:13 -0400
To: STC LW SIG
From: Stephen O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FrameScript - give a script to a colleague
Hi,
I have FrameScript and want to share a script
with a colleague. Does that person
Yes, for sure.
Z
Stephen O'Brien wrote:
I have FrameScript and want to share a script with a colleague. Does
that person also have to have FrameScript (i.e., buy a 2nd license) on
his computer?
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Stephen O'Brien wrote:
I have FrameScript and want to share a script with a colleague. Does
that person also have to have FrameScript (i.e., buy a 2nd
license) on
his computer?
Only if he wants to _run_ the script. :-)
Richard
--
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom,
As previously stated, these are just sneak peak previews, and nothing
is guaranteed to make it in the final build.
For one, I'm pretty sure that they said that the DITA support will be
built in, and you won't have to download the DITA App Pack and install
it.
Improved conditional text handling
No specific presentation was made that involved how code ports to and from
Frame.next at all, but rest assured that it's a comment made to Adobe and
something that I hope they are looking into. By the way, for anyone in the
Toronto area, Front Runner is hosting a sneak peek at the application
OK, this is really getting to be fingernails on a chalkboard -- at least
5 occurrences from at least 3 contributors, of sneak peaks.
Unless we're talking stealthy hilltops here, it's peeks, not peaks, please!!
--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON,
Stuart Rogers wrote:
OK, this is really getting to be fingernails on a chalkboard -- at least
5 occurrences from at least 3 contributors, of sneak peaks.
Unless we're talking stealthy hilltops here, it's peeks, not peaks,
please!!
Stuart:
It seems that peeking at peaks piques you. Next
Egads, did I do that??? And I'm the Editor for our group...
I blame it on jet lag -- oh, wait, I never left the Central time zone.
OK, I fall back on my original claim of informtion overload. My brain
is too full and its leeking. ;-)
-Carla
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From: [EMAIL
Your brain is growing leeks?
I am SO sorry! I couldn't resist!! *grin*
-Nicole
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From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:30 PM
To: Stuart Rogers
Cc: Framers List; framers@lists.frameusers.com
80+ conditional tags?!?!? WOW
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 3:48 PM
To: Bill Swallow
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker.next
As previously stated, these are just
I was excited by the social networking package that
is rumored to be part of Framemaker.next. In addition
to translating output into PDF and XML, the new
version will also automatically post it to your blog
or Myspace.
User Interface design blog
http://user-advocacy.blogspot.com/
Hi Rick...
Grab the DITA App Pack and take a look at the EDD that is part of the
DITA-Topic-FM structapp .. I think it will do pretty much what you want
(although you may need to take it to additional levels).
http://www.adobe.com/go/dita/
Cheers!
...scott
Rick Quatro wrote:
Hello
This is probably very simple, but can someone tell me how to write my
XRef element so that all of cross reference are blue in my document?
Thanks
Danny Green
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I only saw one of the sneak peek sessions, and don't recall hearing
anything about XML comments or specifics on DITA support .. but I'd like
to point out that the stripping of comments isn't a DITA App Pack issue
.. it's a Frame issue .. the App Pack actually warns you about it when
you open a
My question is Why?? I suppose this is a little OT, but I cannot imagine
needing more than 10 conditions, even when you create PDF for both computer
screens and handhelds, and also help, as well as have 3 or 4 models of a
product described in the same set of files. How in heck to you keep
For me, a 100% reliable workaround (so far, but that's several years of
the issue on and off) is to print the document to PS twice. The second
one is always fine.
Deleting the font cache file fixes the problem temporarily for me
(yay!), but when it comes back, printing twice is much quicker than
There is a brief mention of FrameMaker in the following article:
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1741
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
Hi everyone,
For my company's various SDK programming guides, I've been told to stop
producing PDF versions, and switch to a single HTML page version for
each book. Of course, I would like to continue authoring in Frame, and
my quick initial tests using the FM save-as-HTML look not too
Well, depending on long your books are, this could be a really poor
idea if people have enough time to go down to Starbucks and get coffee
while the "page" loads.
The whole idea of web publishing is usually to have discrete chunks of
information / pages that are linked, not vice versa, so it
Interesting interview.
Expecting customers to use the tool that's most appropriate for the
job is kind of a stretch though. ;- )
Art
On 5/17/07, Rick Quatro wrote:
> There is a brief mention of FrameMaker in the following article:
>
>
Thanks for the input Art. My books, though, are not large (only about 50
pages at this point). And also, I don't think this is a real issue
anymore. For an example of what I'm striving for, check out how Google
handles their API docs:
Yes, that would be exactly my point.
They break it up into multiple chapters / pages appropriate to the
content; they don't string it all together. 8 subtopics at the top
level, and diving down, 17 in the Developer's Guide, etc.
Art
On 5/17/07, Neil Tubb wrote:
> Thanks for the input Art. My
> I considered using ePublisher, but I believe it always creates a
> minimum of one HTML file per FM chapter. This would not work.
No, it creates one HTML file per topic.
John Posada
Senior Technical Writer
"They say everyone needs goals. Mine is to live forever.
So far, so good."
Hi Gena,
This is not exactly it. It happens when an image has its Runaround
Properties set to something besides None and there is a text frame that
overlaps the image.
Rick
> I'm not sure if this is the same issue I experienced, but I was told once
> by FrameMaker (pre-Adobe) that this bug
True, but what impressed me about that interview is
how he mentions a strategy. Microsoft's strategy has
been to move into home/business user applications
across the board, and Adobe's seems to be to move into
professional applications across the board, which
means that Frame will be promoted much
Hi All,
We've got an odd problem with an FM file (v 7.2b128 Win). When the doc was
released, the writer used the (timesaving and fabulously thorough) Archive
plugin to archive the project files and then used WinZip to create a .zip
archive (unencrypted) of the files. Shortly thereafter, the
Just to be totally picky, there is no official number on the webpage that says
8 or 8.0 or anything like that. Of course, it is totally possible that Adobe
may have mentioned that exact product number a few times during their sneak
peaks at the STC conference :)
No official number has been
Hi Rene,
Open the document and press (in sequence) Escape F l k (where the l is a
lower-case L).
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
> Hi All,
>
> We've got an odd problem with an FM file (v 7.2b128 Win). When the doc
> was released, the writer used the
Hello Framers,
I need help with text formatting rules in an EDD. Basically, I am allowing
nesting of ol and ul elements. I need rules that will allow a particular
format to be called, depending on the nesting level. Here is an example of
"flat" structure. The text in the element indicates the
I sat in on a couple of the Adobe previews at the conference, and I'm
seriously looking forward to Framemaker.next.
We're 'thisclose' to converting to XML/Dita, and the feature
improvements and support I saw coming from Adobe in the next version
make me confident that staying in FM will be a
Even if you don't like his presentation, it is worth seeing the backflip he
does at the conclusion.
Rick
As an aside (and just to make Bernard blush, if that's possible), if you
ever get a chance to sit in on training or a presentation done by
Bernard, DO IT!!! I have to say that he was my
AH!!! THANK YOU!! Here's an e-kiss on the cheek!!
Rene
Rick Quatro wrote:
Hi Rene,
Open the document and press (in sequence) Escape F l k (where the l is a
lower-case L).
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
> Hi All,
>
> Regardless, we're in the rather
Hi Rene,
Since you are giving out e-kisses, here is another way to do it in FrameMaker
7.2. Choose View > Formatting Bar and click the icon that has the white page
and blue ribbon.
Rick
AH!!! THANK YOU!! Here's an e-kiss on the cheek!!
Rene
Rick Quatro wrote:
Hi Rene,
Open
> As an aside (and just to make Bernard blush, if that's possible), if you
> ever get a chance to sit in on training or a presentation done by
> Bernard, DO IT!!! I have to say that he was my favorite presenter at
> the conference (or maybe he just had the best and most interesting
> material...)
On a serious note, what was discussed about DITA support? Currently
the DITA package for FM has a few limitations and bigs (for example,
stripping all XML comments from the files on use). Any indication that
the DITA capabilities will be ready for prime time?
On 5/17/07, Martinek, Carla wrote:
>
At 12:58 -0400 17/5/07, Bill Swallow wrote:
>Currently the DITA package for FM has a few limitations and bigs (for example,
>stripping all XML comments from the files on use)
That sure sounds more like a big than a bug ;-)
--
Steve
Hello Gillian,
Before answering your questions as best I can, anyone who is interested in
testing the beta version of the next release of FrameMaker should send an email
to this address:
framemaker-beta at adobe.com
Adobe has not officially announced what the release will be called, but as a
D'oh! Sorry. I must still be working off all that Sapporo... and that
was several years ago! ;-)
On 5/17/07, Steve Rickaby wrote:
> At 12:58 -0400 17/5/07, Bill Swallow wrote:
>
> >Currently the DITA package for FM has a few limitations and bigs (for
> >example, stripping all XML comments from
...and one for the other cheek, too. :-)
Rene
Rick Quatro wrote:
Hi Rene,
Since you are giving out e-kisses, here is another way to do it in FrameMaker
7.2. Choose View > Formatting Bar and click the icon that has the white page
and blue ribbon.
Rick
AH!!! THANK YOU!!
--- Rick Quatro wrote:
> I need help with text formatting rules in an EDD.
> Basically, I am allowing
> nesting of ol and ul elements. I need rules that
> will allow a particular
> format to be called, depending on the nesting level.
> Here is an example of
> "flat" structure. The text in the
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:02:13 -0400
>To: STC LW SIG
>From: Stephen O'Brien
>Subject: FrameScript - give a script to a colleague
>
>Hi,
>
>I have FrameScript and want to share a script
>with a colleague. Does that person also have to
>have FrameScript (i.e., buy a 2nd license) on his
Yes.
Art
On 5/17/07, Stephen O'Brien wrote:
>
> >Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:02:13 -0400
> >To: STC LW SIG
> >From: Stephen O'Brien
> >Subject: FrameScript - give a script to a colleague
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have FrameScript and want to share a script
> >with a colleague. Does that person also
Yes, for sure.
Z
Stephen O'Brien wrote:
>> I have FrameScript and want to share a script with a colleague. Does
>> that person also have to have FrameScript (i.e., buy a 2nd license) on
>> his computer?
Stephen O'Brien wrote:
> >I have FrameScript and want to share a script with a colleague. Does
> >that person also have to have FrameScript (i.e., buy a 2nd
> license) on
> >his computer?
Only if he wants to _run_ the script. :-)
Richard
--
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
As previously stated, these are just "sneak peak" previews, and nothing
is guaranteed to make it in the final build.
For one, I'm pretty sure that they said that the DITA support will be
built in, and you won't have to download the DITA App Pack and install
it.
Improved conditional text
No specific presentation was made that involved how code ports to and from
Frame.next at all, but rest assured that it's a comment made to Adobe and
something that I hope they are looking into. By the way, for anyone in the
Toronto area, Front Runner is hosting a sneak peek at the application
OK, this is really getting to be fingernails on a chalkboard -- at least
5 occurrences from at least 3 contributors, of "sneak peaks".
Unless we're talking stealthy hilltops here, it's peeks, not peaks, please!!
--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON,
Stuart Rogers wrote:
> OK, this is really getting to be fingernails on a chalkboard -- at least
> 5 occurrences from at least 3 contributors, of "sneak peaks".
>
> Unless we're talking stealthy hilltops here, it's peeks, not peaks,
> please!!
Stuart:
It seems that peeking at peaks piques you.
Egads, did I do that??? And I'm the Editor for our group...
I blame it on jet lag -- oh, wait, I never left the Central time zone.
OK, I fall back on my original claim of informtion overload. My brain
is too full and its leeking. ;-)
-Carla
-Original Message-
From:
Your brain is growing leeks?
I am SO sorry! I couldn't resist!! *grin*
-Nicole
-Original Message-
From:
framers-bounces+nicole.hales-crotchett=lmco.com at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+nicole.hales-crotchett=lmco.com at lists.frameusers
.com] On Behalf Of Martinek,
80+ conditional tags?!?!? WOW
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From: framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 3:48 PM
To: Bill Swallow
Cc: framers
I was excited by the "social networking" package that
is rumored to be part of Framemaker.next. In addition
to translating output into PDF and XML, the new
version will also automatically post it to your blog
or Myspace.
User Interface design blog
http://user-advocacy.blogspot.com/
Hi Rick...
Grab the DITA App Pack and take a look at the EDD that is part of the
DITA-Topic-FM structapp .. I think it will do pretty much what you want
(although you may need to take it to additional levels).
http://www.adobe.com/go/dita/
Cheers!
...scott
Rick Quatro wrote:
> Hello
This is probably very simple, but can someone tell me how to write my
XRef element so that all of cross reference are blue in my document?
Thanks
Danny Green
This is probably very simple, but can someone tell me how to write my
XRef element so that all of cross reference are blue in my document?
Thanks
Danny Green
I only saw one of the sneak peek sessions, and don't recall hearing
anything about XML comments or specifics on DITA support .. but I'd like
to point out that the stripping of comments isn't a DITA App Pack issue
.. it's a Frame issue .. the App Pack actually warns you about it when
you open a
My question is Why?? I suppose this is a little OT, but I cannot imagine
needing more than 10 conditions, even when you create PDF for both computer
screens and handhelds, and also help, as well as have 3 or 4 models of a
product described in the same set of files. How in heck to you keep
On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:08:17 -0700 (GMT-07:00), Diane Gaskill
wrote:
>My question is Why?? I suppose this is a little OT, but I
>cannot imagine needing more than 10 conditions, even when
>you create PDF for both computer screens and handhelds, and
>also help, as well as have 3 or 4 models
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