Off topic: Handling of linked graphics in several language versions in Framemaker

2008-07-01 Thread mathieu jacquet
Hi Verner, I usually use the "Archive" structure, that is to say an overall directory (Product x.y. English) containing, on the same level : . the fm files an book file ; . a "graphic" directory containing all graphics ; . a "text" directory containing all text insets. I copy paste this overal

Off topic: Handling of linked graphics in several language versions in Framemaker

2008-07-01 Thread Art Campbell
Swapping a language-specific \Graphics folder in and out of the document structure, depending on the language, would certainly work. All it takes to break it is a slight difference in file naming conventions though. Another option is to use conditional text. If each graphic is in a frame attached

Off topic: Technical Writer Song

2008-07-01 Thread Owen, Clint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMQ2eATq1OI Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | +1 425-743-8674 | F: +1 425-743-8113 We value your opinion! How may we serve you better? Please

Off topic: Handling of linked graphics in several language versions in Framemaker

2008-07-01 Thread Robert Stoker
Anyone interested in using language-specific graphics without having the hassle of manually re-importing the graphics into each language document can contact me off-list. Our Single Source plug-in, which is not commercially available, has most of the code required to perform this task. If w

master pages and multiple revisions

2008-07-01 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Hi All! FM 8.0, XP. I don't even know how to ask this question. Let's say you have a 50 page document, and each page has the date of original issue on it. The date of original issue is a cross-reference (I know, I know) on the master page. If you want to make changes to a document and you want

master pages and multiple revisions

2008-07-01 Thread martin.sm...@golehtek.com
Hi, An alternative would be to create a dedicated, named flow on the master page with auto-connect turned off. This would result in a text field on each page that you could use to enter the issue or revision date. However, some potential issues come to mind. Whether you use a master page

master pages and multiple revisions

2008-07-01 Thread Owen, Clint
Deirdre, That's exactly what we do. I create a cross reference marker next to each revision date on the Record of Revisions page. This date is then referenced anywhere in the manual that I need that particular date, such as on the List of Effective Pages or the master page for a new part of the ma

Use hypertext command to launch FrameScript macro

2008-07-01 Thread Stephen O'Brien
I would like to create a hypertext zone in a FM doc that launches a FrameScript script...is that even possible...any ideas anyone... Thx Stephen O'Brien R?dacteur technique / Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc. 2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310 Qu?bec (Qu?bec)

Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
This question and answer got me looking at the FM help to see how this work. But, I'm still not sure how to get some numerics to sort correctly. This is what I get: 100 mm stud 150 mm stud 200 mm stud 70 mm stud 90 mm stud This is what I want: 70 mm stud 90 mm stud 100 mm stud 150 mm stud 200

Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Linda, 100 mm stud [00100 mm stud] 150 mm stud [00150 mm stud] 200 mm stud [00200 mm stud] 70 mm stud [00070 mm stud] 90 mm stud [00090 mm stud] Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com - Original Message - From: "Linda G. Gallagher" To: "'Lester C. Smalley'"

Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Yep, even just one leading 0 [0100 mm] worked (someone suggested that offlist). Now I think I get how this works better. Thanks! ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online he

Use hypertext command to launch FrameScript macro

2008-07-01 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Stephen, First of all, you need an installed event script that "waits" for the message from the hypertext click. The event script needs a Message event that receives the call from the hypertext click. Event Message // Local sMessage(Message); Display sMessage; // EndEvent Then your Hyperte

Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
OK. I must be really slow on the uptake today. This worked to sort the entries that start with the numbers: 70 mm stud:roller locations[070 mm] 90 mm stud:roller locations[090 mm]; But the following did not work to sort the entries under stud. studs:70 mm roller locations[studs:070 mm] studs:

Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Combs, Richard
Linda G. Gallagher wrote: > This worked to sort the entries that start with the numbers: > > 70 mm stud:roller locations[070 mm] > 90 mm stud:roller locations[090 mm]; > > > But the following did not work to sort the entries under stud. > > studs:70 mm roller locations[studs:070 mm] > studs:90

Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Yes, this is a copy and paste of the exact marker entry that works for the numerics: 70 mm stud:roller locations[070 mm] Just tried these, but they ended up putting a blank entry (just the page number, not text) above the Numerics group: studs:70 mm roller locations[070 mm] studs:90 mm roller l

Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Lester C. Smalley
Linda, Try adding a space before the opening square bracket of the sort order: studs:70 mm roller locations [studs:070 mm] studs:90 mm roller locations [studs:090 mm] Also, it may help if you specify the FM version, OS and platform that you're working with just in case there are subtle di

Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread st...@siliconprairiesoftware.com
Lester is on the right track... He said this: Try adding a space before the opening square bracket of the sort order: studs:70 mm roller locations [studs:070 mm] studs:90 mm roller locations [studs:090 mm] The spaces don't affect the sorting. The importing thing to note is t

Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Spacing didn't make any difference. One example in the help shows no spacing (other examples fall onto a new line in a table, so you can't tell). Also, must have the first level index entry, or it puts it into the Numerics, so it must have [stud:70 mm], but it still won't sort under stud or profil

Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
What do you mean by a complete index entry? It doesn't seem to have to match the complete second level portion of the index entry, so I'm not clear. No matter what I do, space, no space before the [, these still won't sort right under the stud and rollers first level entries. ~

Use hypertext command to launch FrameScript macro

2008-07-01 Thread Frank Elmore
To add to what Rick said, there are several methods to use FrameScript with hypertext. You can create an event script as Rick suggested or, in FrameScript 5.x, you can specify a standard script to run by including its file name in the hypertext command, as follows: message fsl cmd RunFileScrip

master pages and multiple revisions

2008-07-01 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Thanks all for these responses. The solution for my specific issue is to have multiple master pages. Because of the type of document I'm writing the date has to be in the footer (so master page) and any page with a change bar has to have a revision date (so, new master page). Deirdre On 7/1/0

master pages and multiple revisions

2008-07-01 Thread Owen, Clint
Deirdre, There is another little trick that we use if the content of a page has changed because of additional material on a previous page. We create a new master page as before, including the date of the revision, and put a change bar next to the footer. This indicates to the user that the flow

3 pts at top of col. 1 ... gone

2008-07-01 Thread Richard Doll
Windows XP - SP 2 Dell 490 WorkStation, 2-meg mem, 2 80-meg disks, dual monitors FrameMaker 7.2p158, Acrobat 7.1.0, GhostScript 8.60, Publi PDF 1.50.0292 SGML 2-column Catalog with Foredge aligned running heads (2/pg) and foredge bleed Section numbers in one col. table-12rows deep. 1. Running H

Off topic: Handling of linked graphics in several language versions in Framemaker

2008-07-01 Thread Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
Hey I am describing a software product and have hundreds of screen shots in my manual that is to be translated into several languages. Have you a good idea for directory structure and file naming of graphics inserted by reference? My idea is the following: Product version x.y - Generic graphcis -

Off topic: Handling of linked graphics in several language versions in Framemaker

2008-07-01 Thread Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
Hey I am describing a software product and have hundreds of screen shots in my manual that is to be translated into several languages. Have you a good idea for directory structure and file naming of graphics inserted by reference? My idea is the following: Product version x.y - Generic graphcis

RE: Off topic: Handling of linked graphics in several language versions in Framemaker

2008-07-01 Thread mathieu jacquet
Hi Verner, I usually use the "Archive" structure, that is to say an overall directory (Product x.y. English) containing, on the same level : . the fm files an book file ; . a "graphic" directory containing all graphics ; . a "text" directory containing all text insets. I copy paste this overal

Re: Off topic: Handling of linked graphics in several language versions in Framemaker

2008-07-01 Thread Art Campbell
Swapping a language-specific \Graphics folder in and out of the document structure, depending on the language, would certainly work. All it takes to break it is a slight difference in file naming conventions though. Another option is to use conditional text. If each graphic is in a frame attached

Off topic: Technical Writer Song

2008-07-01 Thread Owen, Clint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMQ2eATq1OI Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | +1 425-743-8674 | F: +1 425-743-8113 We value your opinion! How may we serve you better? Please

Off topic: Handling of linked graphics in several language versions in Framemaker

2008-07-01 Thread Robert Stoker
Anyone interested in using language-specific graphics without having the hassle of manually re-importing the graphics into each language document can contact me off-list. Our Single Source plug-in, which is not commercially available, has most of the code required to perform this task. If w

master pages and multiple revisions

2008-07-01 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Hi All! FM 8.0, XP. I don't even know how to ask this question. Let's say you have a 50 page document, and each page has the date of original issue on it. The date of original issue is a cross-reference (I know, I know) on the master page. If you want to make changes to a document and you want

Re: master pages and multiple revisions

2008-07-01 Thread martin . smith
Hi, An alternative would be to create a dedicated, named flow on the master page with auto-connect turned off. This would result in a text field on each page that you could use to enter the issue or revision date. However, some potential issues come to mind. Whether you use a master page

RE: master pages and multiple revisions

2008-07-01 Thread Owen, Clint
Deirdre, That's exactly what we do. I create a cross reference marker next to each revision date on the Record of Revisions page. This date is then referenced anywhere in the manual that I need that particular date, such as on the List of Effective Pages or the master page for a new part of the ma

Use hypertext command to launch FrameScript macro

2008-07-01 Thread Stephen O'Brien
I would like to create a hypertext zone in a FM doc that launches a FrameScript script...is that even possible...any ideas anyone... Thx Stephen O'Brien Rédacteur technique / Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc. 2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310 Québec (Québec)

RE: Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
This question and answer got me looking at the FM help to see how this work. But, I'm still not sure how to get some numerics to sort correctly. This is what I get: 100 mm stud 150 mm stud 200 mm stud 70 mm stud 90 mm stud This is what I want: 70 mm stud 90 mm stud 100 mm stud 150 mm stud 200

Re: Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Linda, 100 mm stud [00100 mm stud] 150 mm stud [00150 mm stud] 200 mm stud [00200 mm stud] 70 mm stud [00070 mm stud] 90 mm stud [00090 mm stud] Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com - Original Message - From: "Linda G. Gallagher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'

RE: Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Yep, even just one leading 0 [0100 mm] worked (someone suggested that offlist). Now I think I get how this works better. Thanks! ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online he

Re: Use hypertext command to launch FrameScript macro

2008-07-01 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Stephen, First of all, you need an installed event script that "waits" for the message from the hypertext click. The event script needs a Message event that receives the call from the hypertext click. Event Message // Local sMessage(Message); Display sMessage; // EndEvent Then your Hyperte

RE: Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
OK. I must be really slow on the uptake today. This worked to sort the entries that start with the numbers: 70 mm stud:roller locations[070 mm] 90 mm stud:roller locations[090 mm]; But the following did not work to sort the entries under stud. studs:70 mm roller locations[studs:070 mm] studs:

RE: Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Combs, Richard
Linda G. Gallagher wrote: > This worked to sort the entries that start with the numbers: > > 70 mm stud:roller locations[070 mm] > 90 mm stud:roller locations[090 mm]; > > > But the following did not work to sort the entries under stud. > > studs:70 mm roller locations[studs:070 mm] > studs:9

RE: Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Yes, this is a copy and paste of the exact marker entry that works for the numerics: 70 mm stud:roller locations[070 mm] Just tried these, but they ended up putting a blank entry (just the page number, not text) above the Numerics group: studs:70 mm roller locations[070 mm] studs:90 mm roller l

RE: Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Lester C. Smalley
Linda, Try adding a space before the opening square bracket of the sort order: studs:70 mm roller locations [studs:070 mm] studs:90 mm roller locations [studs:090 mm] Also, it may help if you specify the FM version, OS and platform that you're working with just in case there are subtle di

Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread steve
Lester is on the right track... He said this: Try adding a space before the opening square bracket of the sort order: studs:70 mm roller locations [studs:070 mm] studs:90 mm roller locations [studs:090 mm] The spaces don't affect the sorting. The importing thing to note is t

RE: Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Spacing didn't make any difference. One example in the help shows no spacing (other examples fall onto a new line in a table, so you can't tell). Also, must have the first level index entry, or it puts it into the Numerics, so it must have [stud:70 mm], but it still won't sort under stud or profil

RE: Sort order of entries in an index

2008-07-01 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
What do you mean by a complete index entry? It doesn't seem to have to match the complete second level portion of the index entry, so I'm not clear. No matter what I do, space, no space before the [, these still won't sort right under the stud and rollers first level entries.

Re: master pages and multiple revisions

2008-07-01 Thread Alan Litchfield
This is what I would be inclined to do, what Martin suggested. It strikes me as pointless having more master pages than the final document page count, when instead you can simply type the date the page was edited. From your post I think you want any edits on the page to be reflected in th

Re: Use hypertext command to launch FrameScript macro

2008-07-01 Thread Frank Elmore
To add to what Rick said, there are several methods to use FrameScript with hypertext. You can create an event script as Rick suggested or, in FrameScript 5.x, you can specify a standard script to run by including its file name in the hypertext command, as follows: message fsl cmd RunFileScrip

Re: master pages and multiple revisions

2008-07-01 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Thanks all for these responses. The solution for my specific issue is to have multiple master pages. Because of the type of document I'm writing the date has to be in the footer (so master page) and any page with a change bar has to have a revision date (so, new master page). Deirdre On 7/1/0

Re: master pages and multiple revisions

2008-07-01 Thread Alan Litchfield
Deirdre, Just because the text is in the position of a footer on a page does not mean it therefore has to be on a master page. Cheers Alan On 2/07/2008, at 9:55 AM, Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Thanks all for these responses. > > The solution for my specific issue is to have multiple master pages.

RE: master pages and multiple revisions

2008-07-01 Thread Owen, Clint
Deirdre, There is another little trick that we use if the content of a page has changed because of additional material on a previous page. We create a new master page as before, including the date of the revision, and put a change bar next to the footer. This indicates to the user that the flow

3 pts at top of col. 1 ... gone

2008-07-01 Thread Richard Doll
Windows XP - SP 2 Dell 490 WorkStation, 2-meg mem, 2 80-meg disks, dual monitors FrameMaker 7.2p158, Acrobat 7.1.0, GhostScript 8.60, Publi PDF 1.50.0292 SGML 2-column Catalog with Foredge aligned running heads (2/pg) and foredge bleed Section numbers in one col. table-12rows deep. 1. Running H