Black and white bleach is typically followed with a clearing solution to remove the stain.The most traditional formula is here:R-9 Bleach Water: 1 litre Potassium Dichromate: 9.5 g Sulfuric Acid (concentrated): 12 ml (Always add acid to water--never water to acid.) CB-1 Clearing Bath: Water: 1
My only (admittedly unscientific) observation is that VS is very unpredictable. Sometimes a film will smell of vinegar for years or even decades and not warp a bit. Other times it's almost here today, gone tomorrow (which is to say the decay happens very rapidly). Still other times only a portion,
I would like to know too. I wonder if it was a real working camera or rather just a prop. The placement of the lens at the very top seems odd. I don't think there would be room to place a Super 8 cartridge inside with the lens in that position. --Ed-Original Message-
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I'm not sure what airline policy is but I'd think it legal only to transport a xenon lamp separate from the projector in a proper protective container. I've seen reflectors ruined by exploding xenon lamps--not to mention what a baggage handler would think if one exploded while there were sorting
There have been some experiments along these lines, but the process is quite complicated and Eastman Kodak no longer supplies the chemistry. Wiki spells out the basic K-14 steps here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-14_process-Original Message-
From: Colin Brant
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Kodachrome has some silver content so it can be processed as black & white. I used to do this to Super 8 Kodachrome films in the 70s using a standard b/w reversal formula. The only person I'm aware of who claims to be able to process it in color is Kelly-Shane Fuller of Piratelogy Studios but only
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Yes, you can see the test roll they processed with
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Hey frameworkers,Does anyone know of a place that works on Kodaks? I’ve got a Cine Special II
Not sure what you'd pay for a rental but wouldn't it be easier to just buy one? There are thousands on ebay, Here's one still in the box in the Baltimore area for $15. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bell-Howell-MS30-XL-Zoom-Sound-Movie-Camera-Super-8-BRAND-NEW-UNOPENED/292844004744-Original
Yes, the smaller lamphouses that will run off single phase power are somewhat scarce and in demand since most commercial theaters were set up with 3-phase service. What kind do you have? I'm using a pair of the ORC 1000's with 750 watt xenons on my 35mm projectors. They run off of regular 110 VAC
There is a long thread begun by Dennis Nyback of Portland, OR at 35mmforum about movies that show projectors, projection booths, and projectionists.Here is a partial list as identified in that thread:1941 197952 Pick-up 1986976-Evil 1988A Boy and His Dog 1975A Foreign Affair 1948 Silent 16mm
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You will also run across the "G-3 Rewind" type tank from time to time but frankly unless you just want to experiment I'd stay away from them. I have never been able to get consistent results using that type of tank. I think the Russian LOMO tanks are a better bet. -Original Message-
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There are a bunch of Russian LOMO 16mm tanks on ebay right now starting at around $100. I think they are designed to hold two lengths of 15m or about 50 feet at a time when developing so you then have to splice the two parts together of a 100' spool after processing for projection. These are
You might try https://www.chemsavers.com/ from Virginia. They also sell on ebay. As for acid you can also buy battery acid from an auto parts store which is about 35 percent sulfuric. Ed-Original Message-
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Ilford publishes a B/W reversal formula here: http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/20061291034093.pdfThe bleach may be too strong for some emulsions in which case you might try using only half as much potassium permanganate.Ed
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Foma still appears to make double perf 16mm film. https://fomafoto.com/index.php/shop/b-w-film/cine-film/fomapan-100r-16mm-30-5m-double-perforated-detail-Original Message-
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Anybody can make black leader, Just take b/w raw stock, expose to light, unwind into a bucket of b/w developer, wash with water, hang up to dry on a clothes line. Easy-peasy. Ed-Original Message-
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EMM/EKS lamps are all over ebay quite cheap compared to other AV lamps.
As for splices you might try redoing any that are causing problems. Use a good
splicer--it is nearly impossible to get the tape and sprocket holes aligned
perfectly by hand. With 16mm you can usually get by with splicing
The first thing I would do is check for direct current voltage at the lamp terminals with a multi-tester.According to an online manual the proper lamp is a 250 watt 24-volt ELC. A 200-watt 24-volt ELJ may alternately be used with less output. With the lamp switch ON you should be getting about 22
Interesting that the camera has a microphone that presumably will be synchronized with the picture in the digital file. I'm just wondering how they will accomplish that.Will the camera print a time code on the film sort of like the DTS cinema system?Will there be new projectors that can project
Eastman LPP color prints from 1983 forward have generally held good color, though I've seen a few go to vinegar (which I suspect often has much to do with poor processing).The cyan or blues typically fade first in the older Eastman stocks and in many cases the yellow, magenta, and overall contrast
A google search attributes it toPaul Auster.The Book of Illusions, a novel. New York: Picador, 2002. p. 14. http://3stages.org/c/gq.cgi?first=QAMOVIES-Original Message-
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That museum is now called The Paley Center for Media.
http://www.paleycenter.org/
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John, if by "mainstream" you mean new release major studio films available for rent on 16mm you could still get about everything in the 90s but things fell off very rapidly after 2000, and by 2006 it was really the end of the road. The last one to be released on 16mm as best as I can tell was
Yes you can shoot B/W slides directly off a flat computer screen with good results. A medium speed film such as Ilford FP4 will offer the most pleasing contrast. Processing instructions are here:http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/20061291034093.pdf You can find any of the needed chemicals
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Trying to help out a friend who attempting to book
Here's a Super Simplex projector head for sale that still has the handle shaft installed.http://www.msusurplusstore.com/servlet/Detail?no=6780 If you look at the video you will see a photo the handle shaft directly under the glass window painted "Super Simplex" at the 50-second mark. Assuming the
Em Gee's owner Murray Glass has a facebook page:https://www.facebook.com/murray.glass.9/friends Mr. Glass would now be approximately 89 years old and it is unclear whether the facebook page is active, though several people on his friends list are distinguished educators and film archivists who may
Somebody needs to go save this baby from the scrapper. http://www.ebay.com/itm/35-MM-Strong-Super-Lume-X-Projector-/161090636982
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The official ORWO instructions for negative processing call for D-96, the formula of which is published here:http://www.filmotec.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/V-I-VV-1182-e.pdf However, common D-76 available for purchase prepackaged would be generally suitable along with a standard hardening
720 feet at 24 frames per second. Handy calculator here:http://www.alphacine.com/resources/conversion.php Ed-Original Message-
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Sent: Jun 24, 2013 10:33 AM
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I don't think the 3M tape is made anymore. The 305 tape isn't the best, but it generally responds pretty well to heat. You may want to try getting a tack iron or something similar to press down the tape splice (just enough heat to "cure" the tape--not too much to burn the film). It also may help
A 36-exposure roll of 35mm still film is about 5 feet long. If you equate that roughly as equal to 11 feet of 16mm film, a 100-foot roll of 16mm is similar in overall size to 9 rolls of 36-exposure 35mm.-Original Message-
From: J Vent
Sent: Apr 28, 2013 1:19
is roughly 4x the area of a 16mm frame, so it requires 4x as much chemistry, not the roughly 2x suggested by the math below. So if 5 feet of 35mm equals about 20 feet of 16mm, then 100 ft.=5 rolls of 36-exposure 35mm film.Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this, but that's how I've always done
Ilford offers this:http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/20061291034093.pdf All reversal b/w processing is based on the same idea. The main variables are whether to use permanganate vs. dichromate bleach and/or exposure vs. chemical reversal in the second development. -Original Message-
The Blob, Night of The Comet, and Swap Meet all have scenes inside projection booths. Then there's this Warner animation short called Buddy's Theatre:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYriyl1_iro --Ed-Original Message-
From: "Pigott, Michael"
Sent: Jan 7, 2013
The Yankee Clipper has a 110 (16mm) setting:http://www.adorama.com/DKTC.htmlOr (better) you can get a stainless steel 110 reel:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Prinz-Stainless-Steel-110-Film-Developing-Reel-In-Original-Box-/150936795419Either one should handle about 33 inches of 16mm film.Ed-Original
Try Urbanski Film:
http://moviecraft.tripod.com/supplies.htmlEd-Original Message-From: n brynolfson Sent: Jul 25, 2012 5:51 PMTo: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Projector supplies?This place looks like they
Freestyle has FOMA bw Reversal in regular 8:
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/411801-Foma-Fomapan-R100-BandW-Reversal-Film-2x8mm-Double-8-standard-10?cat_id=407You essentially shoot one side of the 16mm width film, then turn it over shoot the other side. The film is then reverse processed slit down
I agree. If negative processing, you can use non hardening fixer but the emulsion will be more prone to scratches.If you are reverse processing the only reason to even use fixer at the final stage is for hardener. A non-hardening fixer or plain hypo solution would serve no useful purpose--might as
An up-to-date Real Player will download convert most YouTube videos.
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Any lab that can process 16mm can process standard 8mm. Just get a 16mm to 8mm film slitter slice the two ends together when you get it back:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Al-Spoil-film-slitter-cut-any-film-down-any-size-/160703420942Ed-Original Message-
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