why you see the flicker effect, the wonders of the
multi-screen presentation is actually a new revelation.
Myron Ort
On Aug 27, 2011, at 1:12 AM, mat fleming wrote:
Whoop. A guessing game.
Looks to me like 2 cameras side by side with some kind of propelor
shaped shutter in front of and b
now contained in a longer work "Eikono
Klastes --Chapter III " which I will be making available shortly.
Myron Ort
On Aug 27, 2011, at 12:53 PM, John McAndrew wrote:
> Myron,
>
> Just a wild guess (I work more in video than film, so I could be
> way off) but it looks li
d this approach as well and it can be seen in a mid- 60s short
film I made "Bridge" which is now contained in a longer work "Eikono
Klastes --Chapter III " which I will be making available shortly.
Myron Ort
On Aug 27, 2011, at 12:53 PM, John McAndrew wrote:
> Myron,
>
Now tell us how you really feel.
Just kidding. I wouldn't be surprised if what you say is true. I
dropped out long ago to grow my own veges in the country.
Myron Ort
On Aug 29, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Aaron F. Ross wrote:
> The avant-garde film scene in this town has
> really degener
Are there any labs that will still make a 16mm color inter negative from hand
painted original? Nothing flaky about the paint and some is just scene toning.
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> > toning.
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Might be a good deal for someone:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Movie-Cameras-Film-Projectors-Developing-Eqpt-LARGE-LOT-/331369758528?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d272d3f40#shpCntId
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Large collection of 16mm and 8mm movie cameras, projectors, film, developing
and editing equipment, commercial and home movies, and more. Great opportunity
to get a huge lot at a low price for collection or resale. 20+ boxes,
Might be a good deal for someone:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Movie-Cam
) in the final result, if that is a
concern.
Myron Ort
On Dec 12, 2014, at 2:13 AM, Lena Ditte Nissen wrote:
> Dear Frameworkers -- I am about to start working on collaging with 16mm film
> and wondered if there is anybody out there who I could ask some questions
> regarding glue
Actual collage. h. I don't know much about that, but I would assume in some
general sense it relates back to Mothlight by Brakhage who held elements in
place sandwiched between perforated mylar strips.
On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Myron Ort wrote:
> Hi Lena,
> I assume, by c
On Dec 12, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Myron Ort wrote:
> Actual collage. h. I don't know much about that, but I would assume in
> some general sense it relates back to Mothlight by Brakhage who held elements
> in place sandwiched between perforated mylar strips.
>
> On Dec 12
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/10/arts/artsspecial/tony-conrad-experimental-filmmaker-and-musician-dies-at-76.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=Moth-Visible&moduleDetail=inside-nyt-region-0&module=inside-nyt-region®ion=inside-nyt-region&WT.nav=inside-nyt-region&_r=1
Wasn’t sure if this got posted yet, and also I apologize for not always knowing
how to post a new article to the list.
I recall back when Tony was a regular on this list.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/10/arts/artsspecial/tony-conrad-experimental-filmmaker-and-musician-dies-at-76.html?action=clic
these days?
I have put some of my own films on DVD, but wondering if this is something to
continue.
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Vry/DeVry_Brochure.pdf>
Myron Ort
> On Jun 18, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Monise Nicodemos
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I want post a question to the forum:
>
> I'm looking for filmmakers who have started using and combining pieces of
> out–of–date analog technolo
hand painting
and can be seen in my film “Regatta” which can be viewed from my webpage.
(Films from the 60s-70s, DVD Volume 8.)
http://www.zeno-okeanos.com/films/60s-70s/dvd-vol-8
<http://www.zeno-okeanos.com/films/60s-70s/dvd-vol-8>
Myron Ort
> On Jun 21, 2016, at 4:34 AM, Mon
Interesting idea.
Keeping my life simple, I shoot Super 35 with my hand crank/or spring
wind vintage '20s DeVry.
Myron Ort
On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Amanda Christie wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> I have a question about eyemo cameras...
>
> if I buy an eyemo camera will
Interesting idea.
Keeping my life simple, I shoot Super 35 with my hand crank/or spring
wind vintage '20s DeVry.
Myron Ort
On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Amanda Christie wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> I have a question about eyemo cameras...
>
> if I buy an eyemo camera will
Testing.
If I cannot post to this group, why am I still getting other's posts
in my email?
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Interesting idea.
Keeping my life simple, I shoot Super 35 with my hand crank/or spring
wind vintage '20s DeVry.
Myron Ort
On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:21 PM, Amanda Christie wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> I have a question about eyemo cameras...
>
> if I buy an eyemo camera will
informed (insightfully) by painting generally.
When it is, I am most interested.
Myron Ort
On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Chuck Kleinhans wrote:
In some of his early writings Eisenstein argued for both "portrait"
and "landscape" mode in films (and editing that would allow for
Anyone know of an accessible tool, machine, or service whereby I can
add a set of perforations to 16mm single-perforated prints , thus
rendering them double-perforated ?
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https
belly
splices.
I don't give a damn because there will also be painting on the back-
side in this zombie jamboree.
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On Oct 21, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote:
> Wouldn't it be easier to modify the device that requires double-
> perf film -- assume it is an optical
ve into Regular 8mm, i.e. adding two additional perfs per 16mm
> frame. He charges approx. 20 GBP per 400 ft 16mm stock for that
> service.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2011-10-21, at 6:36 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
>
>> Anyone know of an accessible tool, machine, or service
How are you all projecting these 35mm films?
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On Nov 9, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Joe Gill wrote:
> I'm waiting for mine so I can add a motor, 200' mag and nikon
> mount, so I'll keep the list posted. I was working on a plastic
> version of the sept, but
Did someone already suggest using those plentiful vintage metal or
plastic 50 foot (showing) reels with square shaft hole and "gluing"
something thin and opaque and cut to fit on the sides.
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seen or never before seen views accessed by private
helicopter.
http://www.zeno-okeanos.com/myron-ort-films/new-films
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I wasn't really paying attention, but I assume what started this was:
http://www.manosinhd.com/?page_id=277
right?
Myron Ort
On Dec 1, 2011, at 3:40 PM, charles chadwick wrote:
This is a truly awful, yet totally amazing film. I proposed to a
friend of mine that he be Torgo and I The M
I have been toying around with Youtube:
http://youtu.be/l4cNZLv5o9M
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I know it is impossible to create a captive audience with no
admission price, but thought I would try this lunacy:
http://youtu.be/zoKB7KkDX34
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The next installment:
http://youtu.be/E81PmlTZslk
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And another little experiment:
http://youtu.be/ImLa0rqfU8A
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btw, contains 16mm "surplus" b&w film I hand processed and solarized
in a hand-crank Morse tank in the early 60s.
http://youtu.be/Vg6BW6dd85Q
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also some found footage collage I made from the early 60s.
btw, contains 16mm "surplus" b&w film I hand processed and solarized
in a hand-crank Morse tank in the early 60s.
http://youtu.be/Vg6BW6dd85Q
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Here is another hand painted film:
http://youtu.be/dg0OaqCayO8
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On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:02 AM, mariah garnett wrote:
> Hey guys
> does anyone have any good solutions for making photographic prints
> off 16mm film? I talked to fotokep about it and it's kinda pricey.
> Any home-mad
you have it on 35mm film.
On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Myron Ort wrote:
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/?
> _nkw=cinelarger&clk_rvr_id=304125622581&mfe=search
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:02 AM, mariah garnett wrote:
>
>> Hey guys
>> does anyone have any good solu
agreed.
unless fuzzy pictures work for you for some reason.
On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Jeff Kreines wrote:
> The Cinelarger and Duplikin are total pieces of junk. Don't waste
> your time.
>
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
>
>> h
Perfect for a time-lapse Fantasia of cannibas in the growing room
while the cute little mice characters nibble on the growing shrooms
in the nearby room. The fun stuff though would be cinematically
depicting their hallucinations.
On Jan 6, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Tony Conrad wrote:
> On a tig
That is sad. I am so sad to hear of this. What a loss. He was
certainly an inspiration and an enormous presence in the scene back
when I first got into film mid 60s in the Bay Area. I was there when
these films came out, he would be at the screeningsoh the memories.
Myron Ort
On Jan
So if we all learned anything from Stan Brakhage, all this
involvement in photographing off of the tv or digital screens must
mean everyone is making "horror" films of one kind or another.
The metaphorical implication is all but inescapable, right?
double perf versus double 8mm
On Jan 23, 2012, at 12:50 PM, sarah browne wrote:
Hi Nikolas,
That's amazingly comprehensive. Thanks!
I'm looking for double perf 16mm to use as is with a high speed
16mm camera - nothing to do with 8mm, I should have specified that.
For anyone else who's in
v=l4cNZLv5o9M&list=UUhNv2f1M4EKeyTB68E_n5dg&index=8&feature=plcp
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On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Steven Gladstone wrote:
> On 1/23/12 6:21 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
>> double perf versus double 8mm
>
> I always thought you could shoot double 8mm in 16mm, and when it was
nifestable in
the physical world it had its origin somewhere in the human brain.
It is the extension of BillyBitzerism to infinity.
Myron Ort
On Jan 25, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Sean Weitzel wrote:
I know this is getting off topic in terms of seeking double perf
stock but I thought it would inclu
unless it be informed by Sirius Remembered
On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Ken Paul Rosenthal wrote:
I'm looking for an author who is living, which would definitely
make the interview more manageableKen
www.crookedbeautythefilm.com (Academic)
www.crookedbeauty.com (Public)
www.kenpaulros
I hope they know to project this film at silent speed. Otherwise the
film makes no sense.
Myron Ort
On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Josh Guilford wrote:
R.K. Projects + Magic Lantern Cinema Present
a very special screening of:
SLEEP
by Andy Warhol
featuring John
Never mind. It looks like they are projecting at 16fps.
excellent.
mo
On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Josh Guilford wrote:
R.K. Projects + Magic Lantern Cinema Present
a very special screening of:
SLEEP
by Andy Warhol
featuring John Giorno
5.5hr long-form cinema proj
I always thought that the dual speed 16mm projectors were 24fps and
16fps. 18fps was a speed on the Super 8 projectors and dual 8/S8
projectors. Was sound speed for S8/reg.8mm also 24fps? I think it
was, but not sure now.
I am quite sure that silent speed was 16 fps back when, at least that
experience even with earplugs. That is how I was
forced to sit though the Sistiaga hand painted film with atrocious
noise. Echh! One of the worst cinema experiences of my life.
Myron Ort
On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Josh Guilford wrote:
R.K. Projects + Magic
lstars.org/news/johncage.html
Damon S.
On Feb 12, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
So 18fps plus sound. Not so much an homage to Warhol as an homage
to Youtube! LOL. At least with Youtube you can turn off the
sound. No sets of ear plugs can do that as completely, and
sometimes th
7;t have time at the moment to unpack this point as I'm
running out the door, but here is a link to some supporting
literature to this position:
http://www.warholstars.org/news/johncage.html
Damon S.
On Feb 12, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
So 18fps plus sound. Not so much an homage
we have it on record that the
artist said "play my film with whatever sound you want" as part of
his intentions.
Myron Ort
On Feb 12, 2012, at 10:04 PM, David Tetzlaff wrote:
>> But if one is going to the trouble of presenting actual film, why
>> not round up a
I stand corrected. I see now from the original advertisement that
the music performance is not simultaneous. I jumped to premature
conclusions because I know there is a lot of that going on these days.
On Feb 13, 2012, at 12:40 AM, ch...@signaltoground.com wrote:
> I've also see the researc
huh, guess I missed that yesterday when I was hurrying out of the house.
How and why do stories like that get started anyway?
On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Fred Camper wrote:
> Quoting Myron Ort :
>
>> ok, I see the problem about the projectors. Guess I am a bit out of
>>
Fred,
Is that erroneous story actually in print somewhere? I think that may
be how and why I even knew of it, and is this discrediting of the
story also in print somewhere? Probably should be.
Myron Ort
On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Fred Camper wrote:
> Quoting Myron Ort :
>
>&g
In which of the many books scattered around my house did I surely
encounter that story?
Myron Ort
On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Eric Theise wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Myron Ort wrote:
>> How and why do stories like that get started anyway?
>
> That parti
as a filmmaker is
in that film.”
On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Adam Hyman wrote:
Only you can answer that...
On 2/13/12 10:35 AM, "Myron Ort" wrote:
In which of the many books scattered around my house did I surely
encounter that story?
Myron Ort
On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:30
Will Farmers reducer and/or its variants bleach out dense parts of a
color positive movie film print?
Looking for an alternative to household bleach in order to prepare
for some hand color tinting and painting.
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owever: rubber gloves, and don't let it sit around in bright
> light. Bright light only, will eventually disassociate the
> potqassium from the ferricyanide.
> Otherwise it is stable. There are no fumes either.
On Feb 14, 2012, at 7:00 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
> Will Farmers reducer
cting something with
varied materials, A-wind, B-wind, etc.
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On Feb 25, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Chris Kennedy wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> Is Tortured Dust spliced with tape or hot splicing?
> And is Brakhage's signature method of using two frames of black
> leader a way
> to
The only other (8mm) filmmaker that I personally knew back then who
stumbled onto the black leader splice patch was Micheal Stewart .
The black leader ended up only covering the splice, nothing else. It
was a pretty cool technique.
Myron Ort
On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Mark Toscano
all I know is how impressed I was with the Bruce Conner
retrospective in Los Angeles at MOCA a many few years ago. All of
his modes of working were well presented.
Bruce Conner!
Myron Ort
On Mar 4, 2012, at 6:19 PM, marilyn brakhage wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. It would be
useum film theaters generally?
Myron Ort
On Mar 4, 2012, at 11:30 PM, marilyn brakhage wrote:
I didn't see that exhibition, unfortunately. But Bruce Conner also
had a gallery/art world history and connections for his work in
other media, aside from film. It's the people who are &qu
oks on Van Gogh just make the lines for the museum show just that
much longer around the block...
sorry I am just thinking out loud, meandering, procrastinating while
I should be doing something else. normally I just delete such
thoughts without posting too many rigid pedantic shar
generate a new and enormous audience based on their presentation
of "democratically" available reproduction media.
Myron Ort
On Mar 6, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
> an inter-negative is still a "reproduction" subject to the qualities
> of the film stock and the av
least know something from experiencing the dvd
"reproduction". They could go to the shows of the work they think
they "get", and maybe some will even learn to venture outside of
just "knowing what they like and liking what they know" and
http://vimeo.com/36093126
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Its a shame these once commonplace and inexpensive items are now so
rare to find, but how hard would it be to make something?
Myron Ort
On Mar 28, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Sedi Ghadiri wrote:
> hi there,
>
> does anyone know where i could find an 8mm film slitter/splitter in
> lo
access to a workshop to build one of those.
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
Its a shame these once commonplace and inexpensive items are now so
rare to find, but how hard would it be to make something?
Myron Ort
On Mar 28, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Sedi Ghadiri wrote:
> hi th
, Myron Ort wrote:
Although the concept is simple, it is not so easy to make something
reliable. Notice the one in the lower left of this photo, that
seems to be the Baia which used to sell for under $10. It is so
simple, but I don't know of anyone making something like this anymore.
It
Sitney's insights on /Brakhage
Myron Ort
On May 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Gene Youngblood wrote:
> Friends,
> What would you cite as the most detailed and comprehensive analysis
> ever written about the form and content one filmmaker’s total bo
For me it has been Sitney's insights on Brakhage, all along.
Myron Ort
On May 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Gene Youngblood wrote:
> Friends,
> What would you cite as the most detailed and comprehensive analysis
> ever written about the form and content one filmmaker’s total
For me it has been Sitney's insights on Brakhage, all along.
At least for his angle on the work, which is deep.
Actually, as far as I am concerned, no one has really nailed it on
anyone.
Myron Ort
On May 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Gene Youngblood wrote:
> Friends,
> What would you
Pip, send me an address where I can send something to you.
Thanks,
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Hi Pip,
Just wondered if the dvd's ( or the emails via this forum) sent to
you months ago at some kind of French address ended up in a dead
letter box somewhere?
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Here is a "ready made" film, I made from an old commercial "film
strip" originally used as a slide show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgyXcLv_yWA
Myron ( I am over 50, sorry).
On Mar 16, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Doug Chaffin(("Douglas Graves")) wrote:
As an isolated 16mm abstract moviemaker
there might
be another route.
Myron Ort
On Sep 11, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Michael joyce wrote:
> would anyone have an idea whether it may be possible to find this bulb for
> a portable Muray 16mm movieola?
>
> Specifications: 25V, 25W
> Approximate size: diameter (bottom) 14mm; length
he idea of art, like science, being built on a history of useful
discoveries for expression, not expression for its own sake at the expense of
insightful universality, technique, and craft.
-not making any friends,
Myron Ort
On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Stashu Kybartas wrote:
> Perh
On Mar 8, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote:
> Calkvsky and “next to nothing” in the same sentence? Really?
>
> He’s legendary on eBay for prices that make one ask what he/she is smoking.
>
haha ha
so true!
Apparently he is right here in Petaluma.
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/calkovskycame
How about that footage of Stan Brakhage carving away at some strip of film
painting with dental tools and talking to Phil Solomon in a coffee shop?
On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Herb Shellenberger wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Here is something I’ve been thinking about lately: films/videos that sho
they are not cheap
> mcmaster.com
> Search on
> paper hole punch
>
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then again it is N. Korea.
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done. Thank you Dominic.
> On Apr 8, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Dominic Angerame
> wrote:
>
>> tullylou...@gmail.co <mailto:gmail.comtullylou...@gmail.co>m
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the hospice care. The
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Didn’t the Gestalt psychology movement deal with this phenomenon.
"Gestalt principles of movement perception
In 1912 Wertheimer discovered the phi phenomenon, an optical illusion in which
stationary objects shown in rapid succession, transcending the threshold at
which they can be perceived sepa
https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Phi_phenomenon
> On Aug 22, 2020, at 10:58 AM, Myron Ort wrote:
>
> Didn’t the Gestalt psychology movement deal with this phenomenon.
>
> "Gestalt principles of movement perception
> In 1912 Wertheimer discovered the phi
All I know is that I had a lot of fun making a film with old ticket punches and
black leader.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4atEmXsA92A
> On Aug 22, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Myron Ort wrote:
>
> https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Phi_phenomenon
> <https://www.newworlde
in the 60s we all would shoot elapsed time single exposures of lights at night
either moving the camera while exposing or letting the movement of the car or
whatever make the streaks, usually superimposing over other stuff. Not
necessarily long term time lapse requiring a timer though...
Ed Em
inet André
> Brussels
>
> From: Myron Ort <mailto:z...@sonic.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 12:09 AM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] History question
>
> in the 60s we all would shoot e
Just saying, that is an Experimental Film circa 1962. Ed Emshwiller ! was ok
in my book.
Myron Ort
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:12 PM, Myron Ort wrote:
>
> Ed Emshwiller, hey kids take a look:
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDoH_KGTR7A
> <https://www.youtube
have worked with Foto Kem before and have even been down there and know how
“corportate” it seems and how expensive which may not be avoidable these days.
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Thanks Jeff, I will definitely check them out.
Myron
> On Dec 28, 2016, at 4:06 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote:
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> Colorlab in Rockville MD.
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I find mine rather useful for a variety of projects over the years.
You don’t see these very often anymore.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1920s-STINEMAN-SYSTEM-35mm-MOVIE-FILM-portable-DEVELOPING-OUTFIT-/292089787668?
Myron Ort
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I recently had an excellent experience working with Doug and Susan transferring
16mm films to digital files. I have worked with them before at their previous
location. I will definitely work with them again.
https://www.facebook.com/Film-Video-Transfers-Inc-260775740634832/
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My auto spell check made a funny “Avant Garden” I like it…….
its mine so don’t steal it…….
probably already has been discovered….I will check…..
> On Nov 9, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Myron Ort wrote:
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> To me there is the interesting question regarding which avant garden or
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Never mind about Avant Garden, its already a clilche…..
> On Nov 9, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Myron Ort wrote:
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> My auto spell check made a funny “Avant Garden” I like it…….
> its mine so don’t steal it…….
> probably already has been discovered….I will check…..
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