Re: umass CF geometry problems, was Re: fdisk -BI ob clean diskbroken

2002-11-04 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Hay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > What is the GET_GEOMETRY used for anyway? : : Well the short version of the problem is that "fdisk -BI " works : on -stable to get a FreeBSD partition on the Compact Flash. This does : not work on -current anymore

Re: libc size

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tim Kientzle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Several people have pointed out that FreeBSD has : certain protections against LD_LIBRARY_PATH exploits, : but there are still real questions here. (Kernel : races, possibly?) Privilege elevation is an : intere

Re: What's the status of devfs(8)?

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Andrew Lankford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : but /dev/devctl is in my /dev (devfs) partition. /dev/devctl has nothing to do with devfs. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the messa

Re: Netgraph and KQUEUE(2)

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
: 1) Device driver in Netgraph node. When hardware is :activated new Netgraph node is created and new :kevent sent. devd (or something like devd) listens :for these events and does something (loads firmware, :activates device, etc.) Device drivers are not netgraph nodes. They will

Re: What is user uucp good for?

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : For that matter, do we still need xten, a user who has been pushed so far : to the edge of obscurity that it's home directory doesn't even exist on a : freshly installed system (and I'm not talking about /nonexist

Re: GEOM/libdisk problem on pc98

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Takahashi Yoshihiro : writes: : >The test program for libdisk is a failure in pc98 disks. : > : >I wonder at why pc98 disks don't have their type ('ty') in the result : >of k

Re: Netgraph and KQUEUE(2)

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : : : On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : > : 1) Device driver in Netgraph node. When hardware is : > :activated new Netgraph node is created and new : > :kevent sen

Re: Netgraph and KQUEUE(2)

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Ok but there cound be netgraph nodes that have no hardware but could be : called into creation by some external event. : e.g. a netgraph hook on a pseudointerface like gif or tun. : (not at present but a possi

Re: pccard state after ACPI resume

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <010501c285dc$87da1170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Matthew Emmerton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : This also happens with my an0 card, so it's probably a larger ACPI + PCCARD : interoperability issue. Its a ACPI issue. We do the right things in the drivers and bridge drivers. Do

Re: Some problems with Orinoco card in -CURRENT

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
Strange. OLDCARD or NEWCARD? Send me a full dmesg for each case, since it is likely some resource conflict or another. I do what you've described hundreds of times over the past few months, so it has to be something weird with your computer. Warner. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: pccard state after ACPI resume

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Frode Nordahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 23:22, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > In message: <010501c285dc$87da1170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > "Matthew Emmerton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wri

Re: pccard state after ACPI resume

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Frode Nordahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 23:38, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > : wi0 detaches and reattaches here (both in sleep state 1 and 3). : > : > OK. OLDCARD or NEWCARD? My laptop still doesn't su

Re: [current] Re: What is user uucp good for?

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : >>>>> "M" == M Warner Losh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : : M> In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ceri Davies : M> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : For

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Steven G. Kargl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Could someone add the following patch to UPDATING? : Change the words to whatever suits your fancy. I'm trying to devise a good way to deal with this breakage and hope it is transient. I'm not hopeful :-(

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-06 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Steven G. Kargl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : M. Warner Losh said: : > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > "Steven G. Kargl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > : Could someone add the f

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-07 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Steven G. Kargl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : M. Warner Losh said: : > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > "Steven G. Kargl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > : M. Wa

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-07 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Polstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, : M. Warner Losh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > "Steven G. Kargl" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-07 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Polstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, : M. Warner Losh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > John Polstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-07 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : "M. Warner Losh" wrote: : > Gotcha. I'm thinking very seriously about keeping __sF support (but : > creating no new binaries with it in it) and the freeze on sizeof(FILE) : >

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-07 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ray Kohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Hear hear, I agree. There's no need to expose what ought to be : "private" data to the world, especially when we can get the additional : benefit here of letting us play with the implementation. -current already d

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-08 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ray Kohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 8 02:45:04 2002 : > Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 00:39:35 -0700 (MST) : > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : > Subject: Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING :

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-08 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Daniel Eischen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : All the ports are going to be rebuilt for the release anyways, : so this doesn't affect fresh installs, correct? It is only a : problem when mixing older 4.x and 5.0 libraries/binaries with : __sF-free libc (i

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-08 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve Kargl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 12:17:00PM -0500, Daniel Eischen wrote: : > On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > : > > : > > Yes, but this is too painful. If we were going to d

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-08 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve Kargl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Here's the fun part. The following 5.0 libraries have the same : version number as their 4.x counterparts. Try running a 4.x : app linked against one of these libaries on a 5.0 machine. You : should also note t

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-08 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Daniel Eischen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > Daniel Eischen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > : All the ports are going to b

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-08 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brooks Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 04:16:06PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > I'd love for there to be a way to know which binaries use __sF. : : The following script run on your bin, sbin, lib, and

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-09 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : If you can't agree on a coordinate system ("OLDCARD? NEWCARD? : REDCARD? BLUECARD?"), then at least agree to get rid of data : interfaces; Ironically, NEWCARD and OLDCARD are driver compatible because it doesn

Re: [PATCH] note the __sF change in src/UPDATING

2002-11-10 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sheldon Hearn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : If the final word on this whole issue is "You can't run binaries : compiled for 4.x-RELEASE on 5.x-RELEASE" then we should start puckering : up. : : Developers tend to remember these things and you don't have t

Re: Value 0xd0d0d0d0 ?

2002-11-10 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aurelien Nephtali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : I would like to know where/when the value 0xd0d0d0d0 is assigned to a pointer ? : Sometimes I have some pointers which have a correct value before and suddenly : they got this odd 0xd0d0d0d0 value :/ That's

Re: buildkernel failure

2002-11-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
pcic isn't supported with NEWCARD yet :-) I'll fix it none-the-less. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Warning messages emitted by disklabel -r

2002-11-18 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vallo Kallaste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : partition c: partition extends past end of unit : Warning, partition c doesn't start at 0! : Warning, An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system utilities : partition e: partition extends p

Re: Device permissions with DEVFS

2002-11-19 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tim Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : I'm glad you brought this up... I'd like to see /dev/devctl made mode 600 : instead of 644 because it does not look very robust and because only one : devctl can be open at a time. 644 is the right permissions to

Re: cbb0: unsupported card type and reboot

2002-11-19 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chris Howells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Hi, : : I'm trying to install 5.0DP2 on my Dell Inspiron 2650 laptop. : Everything : seems to be going fine until I get a: : : cbb0: unsupported card type detected : : at this stage, the machine reboot

Re: Cross-Development with NetBSD

2002-11-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Wilkinson,Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Is FreeBSD likely to follow the in footsteps of NetBSD and create a framework to do :crossbuilds ? : : http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200211/xdevnetbsd.html FreeBSD already has cross builds for a while, since

Re: buildkernel broken at bluetooth?

2002-11-20 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : My /usr/src is a symlink to another partition which is mounted : on /usr/local/mnt/src. I can make it compile by modifying the : Makefiles in sys/modules/netgraph/bluetooth like this: : : CFLAGS+= -I${.CURDIR}/../../

Re: Cross-Development with NetBSD

2002-11-21 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:10:14AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > "Wilkinson,Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Re: Why isn't NOCLEAN the default?

2002-11-21 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Thus spake John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: : > Make release is a very poor example b/c make release goes to great : > efforts to create a clean-room environment for a release. make : > rerelease is quite help

Re: Compiling -CURRENT and PCMCIA support.

2002-11-22 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <1037904653.74226.21.camel@lobo> Ryan Sommers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Is the kernel on the 5.0SP2 ISO built with PCCard support? Yes. : I installed : from CD-ROM onto a Compaq laptop only to notice nothing about the PCMCIA : Ethernet card I had in the dmesg output.

Re: Bluetooth questions

2002-11-22 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maksim Yevmenkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : PCCARD: 3COM and Xircom(*). Xircom card is a 16550A : UART based card and may not work very well because of : "sio" driver issues. The same is true for any 16550A : UART based card. However if you can convinc

Re: malloc(0) broken?

2002-11-22 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marc Recht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : A malloc(0) returns always 0x800 on my system. This causes some third-party : software to fail, because they expect malloc(0) to return NULL. Is this a : bug or a feature? malloc(3) doesn't mention anything. mal

Re: wlan device fails with latest CURRENT

2002-11-22 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christian Brueffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Hi, : : just installed DP2 on my IBM Thinkpad R32 and updated to the latest : -CURRENT. : My wlan device (Prism 2.5, internal, no pccard) fails at bootup: : : wi0: mem 0xf800-0xf8000fff irq 11 at dev

Re: pccardd in DP2

2002-11-22 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Richard Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : I now have DP2 running on my Vaio Z600 laptop, and I'm trying to get my : wireless ethernet running. : : The cardbus is detected: : : kernel: cbb0: at device 12.0 on pci0 : kernel: cardbus0: on cbb0 :

Re: Bluetooth questions

2002-11-22 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Maksim Yevmenkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : I see a lot of "silo overflow" errors under moderate load. : As a result bytes get dropped on the floor. The Bluetooth : spec defines extremely simple serial protocol (H4). It simply : cannot tolerate UARTs

Re: Bluetooth questions

2002-11-22 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Maksim Yevmenkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : : > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : >"Maksim Yevmenkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > : I see a lot of "silo overflow" errors under moderate load. : > : As a result bytes get dropped on the

Test/review this patch

2002-11-23 Thread M. Warner Losh
OK. The lightbulb went on this evening on some of the problems we're having with the pci_allow_unsupported_io_ranges stuff. We weren't doing the right thing with prefetchable memory, hence the nvida driver's need to tell people to set this. I'd like to commit the following change, with re approv

Re: Bluetooth questions

2002-11-23 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bruce Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : 56k is a silly speed to use. Why not use the normal speed of 57600 : bps or the faster speed of 115200 bps? I haven't got around to updating : the 57600 in the example in /etc/rc.serial although this example bec

Re: installworld and stale {include,lib} fun

2002-11-23 Thread M. Warner Losh
I've never ever needed to cleanup lib. Are you sure that's absolutely required? Also, for upgrading from 4.x already has the bit about nuking /usr/include/gcc. I've never needed to do more. What libraries are bad that need to be removed, specifically? Or is this just paranoia inspired? Warner

Re: installworld and stale {include,lib} fun

2002-11-23 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On 2002-11-23 21:13, "M. Warner Losh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : > I've never ever needed to cleanup lib. Are you sure that's absolutely : > required? Also

Re: PANIC: "Most recently used by bus"

2002-11-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aurelien Nephtali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : I've got a panic by unplugging my NIC then plugging it again and then doing : a dhclient . I've attached some informations about the panic. Kill the dhclient after you unplug the interface, but before you p

Re: PANIC: "Most recently used by bus"

2002-11-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "M. Warner Losh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Aurelien Nephtali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : : I've got a panic by unplugging my NIC then plugging it again and then do

Re: PANIC: "Most recently used by bus"

2002-11-27 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aurelien Nephtali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Yes, I think it's a bug too. I've already unplugged/plugged my NIC in the past : without any problem (and always with WITNESS enabled) so maybe it's a new bug : introduced recently, but I've not seen any com

Re: Cardbus panic with 3com Megahertz

2002-11-28 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christian Brueffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : got a reproducable panic while inserting a 3Com Megahertz 3CCFE575BT : into an up to date -current system. : The card used to work fine with DP1. How up to date? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAI

Re: missing: usr.bin/rdist - used: ports/net/rdist6

2002-11-28 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve Kargl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > - Please consider restoring rdist to FreeBSD. Thanks. : : No thanks. It was removed almost 2 years ago because : better alternatives are available. And the number of security problems with rdist are legion.

Re: DP2 + Thinkpad 660X = PC Card card activation failed

2002-11-30 Thread M. Warner Losh
Try adding hw.pccard.cis_debug=1 to /boot/loader.conf and let me know the results. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: [REPORT] Upgrade from 4.0-RELEASE to 5.0-CURRENT

2002-12-01 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Daniel C. Sobral" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : There I go reply to all... : : IIRC, we never supported upgrade to 4.0 or 4.1 from anybut but the : *latest* version in the 3.x series. I sure hope we adopt the same policy : here. ru@ has stepped up to

Re: [REPORT] Upgrade from 4.0-RELEASE to 5.0-CURRENT

2002-12-01 Thread M. Warner Losh
Hey ru! These patches are only one '/' different from what I build on my 4.3, 4.5 and 4.6.2 systems w/o a new make being installed. All built perfectly! Thanks! Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: [REPORT] Upgrade from 4.0-RELEASE to 5.0-CURRENT

2002-12-02 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Um, why? I can even cross-build any of our supported arches on the : 4.0-RELEASE i386 box. This happens almost automatically, as part : of the cross-arch work tasks. I think that there are some build tools t

Re: DP2 + Thinkpad 660X = PC Card card activation failed

2002-12-02 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <1038796195.375.7.camel@OutBound> Bob Van Valzah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 23:16, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > Try adding hw.pccard.cis_debug=1 to /boot/loader.conf and let me know : > the results. : : Warner, I knew you'

Re: sys/file.h and POSIX

2002-12-09 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marc Recht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > Why are you specifying a standard and then using features outside its : > scope? Either you want a BSD environment (in which case don't specify : The standard is specified to get the standard functions. Eg. if i

Re: sys/file.h and POSIX

2002-12-09 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marc Recht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > A conforming application cannot make use of facilities outside the : > scope of the standard. This means that if you define : > _POSIX_C_SOURCE=200112L you don't want RPC. : I don't said that the application is

Re: dc(4) problems

2002-12-09 Thread M. Warner Losh
Andy, I'm aware of this problem and have it on my list of things to try to get fixed for 5.0. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Cardbus/dc(4) still broken

2002-12-12 Thread M. Warner Losh
Yup. Known problem with some cards. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Cardbus/dc(4) still broken

2002-12-12 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > Yup. Known problem with some cards. : : How do I fix? Fix the dc driver to not suck so much in this reguard. :-) I think that some flags aren't being properly set in the probe routine, but haven't had a chan

Re: Cardbus/dc(4) still broken

2002-12-12 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > Fix the dc driver to not suck so much in this reguard. :-) : > : > I think that some flags aren't being properly set in the probe : > routine, but haven't had a chance to look at it in detail. I'm sorry : > I

Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : >I don't feel this is a good decision. (I still have a 486, act as a : >small server and a 286 witch is in storage) This basally means that : >any one who doesn't have the latest processor can't install FreeBSD. : : No it does

Re: ipfw userland breaks again.

2002-12-15 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : :I disagree with committing this hack; keep it as a local mod if you must. : : : :As to the problem; don't wait for Luigi to "fix the ABI problems", do it : :yourself. Good things happen when folks are PO'd a

Re: ipfw userland breaks again.

2002-12-15 Thread M. Warner Losh
:This is complete BULLSHIT, Warner. Your attitude it totally unacceptible. Learn to play well with others, or get the fuck out of the project. I am *NOT* blocking you. I'm telling you you need to get the SO's sign off to make sure that there isn't a security issue because the current defa

Re: ipfw userland breaks again.

2002-12-15 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : : : :The real fix is to fix the abi problems. : : : :Warner : : Doh!!Thanks for volunteering to fix the ABI problems. No? You : don't want to do it? Gee, I saw that one coming a mile away! :

Re: ipfw userland breaks again.

2002-12-15 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : : : : ::This is complete BULLSHIT, Warner. : : : :Your attitude it totally unacceptible. Learn to play well with : :others, or get the fuck out of the project. : : : :I am *NOT* blocking you. I'm telli

Re: ipfw userland breaks again.

2002-12-15 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : When people say and do reasonable things I am a reasonable guy. When : people say and do unreasonable things then I fight tooth and nail. : It's that simple. If you don't like it, then tough.

Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : I suppose it would be a good idea to include an alternatvie i386 : kernel on the CD-ROM. There may be a space issue, of course. How : many people participating in this thread have an i386 with at least

Re: ipfw userland breaks again.

2002-12-16 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Here's a new patch. But there isn't much of a point if we do not : also disallow ipfw DELETE and FLUSH. And the pipe config commands : as well as anything else that changes the firewall state. Fi

Re: if_dc: ethernet address now reported as 00:00:00:00:00:00

2002-12-19 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Ooh. you get an all-zero address. Mine comes up with I have this problem on a card. That's good since I introduced it into the kernel :-( Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscrib

Re: TWiki as promised...

2002-02-23 Thread M. Warner Losh
So how do I add NewCard project to this TWiki? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: New pam doesn't work with xdm 4.2

2002-02-24 Thread M. Warner Losh
You need a different version for -current than for -stable. Make sure you have the right version. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: New pam doesn't work with xdm 4.2

2002-02-24 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : "M. Warner Losh" wrote: : > : > You need a different version for -current than for -stable. Make sure : > you have the right version. : : Version of what? There are n

Re: New pam doesn't work with xdm 4.2

2002-02-24 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 08:46:45PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > You need a different version for -current than for -stable. Make sure : > you have the right version.

Re: New pam doesn't work with xdm 4.2

2002-02-24 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 10:15:44PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > "David O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: HEADS UP: cvs commit: src/sys/conf kern.pre.mk (fwd)

2002-02-25 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Wemm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : There are a couple of offending files in the kernel still, and some : drivers. The things people are most likely to run into are: usb, inet6, : and some drivers (twe, asr etc). I've fixed a few of the low hangin

Re: HEADS UP: cvs commit: src/sys/conf kern.pre.mk (fwd)

2002-02-25 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Makonnen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 20:59, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > I've fixed a few of the low hanging fruit, but I don't know how to get : > rid of warnings like: : > : > const char

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: Garance A Drosihn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : I think the main issue here is how long the real repository can be : "locked" while waiting for some change to show up. If work can : keep going into the main repository, then what does

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > I meant "lock" in the sense of expecting no one to make any major : > changes in the same area of code. I seem to remember you asking for : > such a "lock" (to use the term loosely) in July, and the KSE work

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-27 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "George V. Neville-Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : The problem here is process. The FreeBSD project now has more than : 12 core members and more than 12 committers. With any number larger : than 12 it is VERY HARD to reach consensus on anything. W

Re: Going to CURRENT from STABLE

2002-02-27 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dimitar Peikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Well, I've decided to go to CURRENT from STABLE, but much of the : kernel sources break, because of -Werror. I solve my problem passing : NO_WERROR=1 on make command line, but this was not documented. :-=((

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-27 Thread M. Warner Losh
: My feeling has always been that imposing some modicrum of structure is : important: to avoid people stepping on toes, people can announce what : they're working on, and expect that others might avoid replicating the : work, or at least be communicated with before it happens. The rationale : for

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-27 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "George V. Neville-Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : > There are only only 8 core team members, unless you mean something : > different by "core" here than [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : I guess I was going based on the meeting I attended back at BSD Con. The

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-27 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "George V. Neville-Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : So, how do we get our attitudes adjusted before hitting a wall, : as many companies I've worked for did? It comes back to agreeing : on a process by which we work. We have one now, it may not all :

Re: controversial fix or some errors breaking LINT

2002-02-27 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : does bus-space have a bzero? Effectively yes. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: 5.0-CURRENT makebuild world fails

2002-03-03 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Philip M. Gollucci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : cc -O2 -Wall -pipe -pedantic -ansi -march=pentiumpro -elf -Wall : -fkeep-inline-functions -I/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/../common -c : /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c:70: warning: ANSI C forbids braced-

Re: ACPI issues and questions (Dell Inspiron 3700)

2002-03-03 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : No. This would mean that sio(4) will attach to any IrDa port and : preclude an IrDa-specific driver from doing so. : : If any variation of this patch is committed, at the very least sio(4) : should return a

Re: 5.0-CURRENT makebuild world fails

2002-03-03 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Philip M. Gollucci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Still get the signal 11. Same file. Same place. : Only no warnings about the braces this time. What happens if you cd to src/lib/csu/i386-elf and do a make? You make need to do that as root... Warner

Re: ACPI issues and questions (Dell Inspiron 3700)

2002-03-03 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Takanori Watanabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Sorry, I've been committed the code, because some IrDA : controller(generic one) already there, there are no such driver : *NOW* and some people may become happy with /usr/ports/comm/birda : port. Traditio

Re: bktr now fails

2002-03-05 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Michael D. Harnois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : I used to be able to use my Brooktree card with no problem. However, a : month or so ago, I started getting this at boot: : : bktr0: mem 0xf500-0xf5000fff irq 9 at device 12.0 on pci2 : bktr0: coul

Re: bktr now fails

2002-03-05 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Michael D. Harnois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 12:10, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : > Humor me and compile PCI_ALLOW_UNSUPPORTED_IO_RANGE : : You da man. Thanks! You should never need to define that opt

Re: bktr now fails

2002-03-05 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Matthew N. Dodd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > You should never need to define that option, so it means that the range : > clipping is (still) bogus :-(. : : Yes, the code is

Re: bus_alloc_resouce() failure for OPTi 82C861

2002-03-07 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> FUJITA Kazutoshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Hi there, : : I installed -CURRENT on my old PC(ThinkPad235 aka Chandra2), : but its USB device doesn't work. : (it works on Windows environment) : : [boot message] : ohci0: irq 10 at device 5.0 on pci0 :

Re: Patch for critical_enter()/critical_exit() & interrupt assem

2002-03-07 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : We have very different development models, and different priorities. : I'm not sure why you are attempting to impose your development model : and priorities on me. This is the work I want to do.

Re: cardbus problem

2002-03-07 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yuri Khotyaintsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : Hi! : : I have xl0: watchdog timeout on my 3Com cardbus card after updating kernel : recently. Everything seems to be OK during boot, : but xl0: watchdog timeout starts directly after ifconfig, and makes

Re: Patch for critical_enter()/critical_exit() & interrupt assem

2002-03-07 Thread M. Warner Losh
: those reviews object on a purely subjective manner. : : : "I think this is premature" : : I don't consider that to be a technical review? do you? If that's what he said, no. However, that's not all that he said. Also, Jake had several objections from a sparc64 perspective that weren't answe

Re: cardbus problem

2002-03-08 Thread M. Warner Losh
OK. I've recreated this problem. It looks like I broke interrupts to cardbus with the large cleanup. I could have sworn I'd tested that, but it looks like my testing metholology was flawed. I'm looking into it. Thanks. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

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