Re: kernel broken? (pcm)

1999-10-12 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On 11 Oct, Bill Fumerola wrote: >> #makeoptions CONF_CFLAGS=-fno-builtin > > We have enough breakages with the _documented_ kernel options that we As Bruce Evans already said, It's documented. > don't need to go hunting down oddities. :> Have you seen the '#' in "#makeoptions"? I assume a '#'

Re: 3dfx Driver?

1999-10-12 Thread Stephen Hocking
>>Has anyone ported the linux 3DFx Driver to FreeBSD? > >Don't think so. > >Why? You volunteering? =) I made a start on it earlier this year, but the final step (mapping the card memory) I got wrong, which then locked up the machine. The box the code is on is the other side of the world at th

Re: kernel broken? (pcm)

1999-10-12 Thread nnd
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alexander Leidinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11 Oct, Bill Fumerola wrote: > >>> #makeoptionsCONF_CFLAGS=-fno-builtin >> >> We have enough breakages with the _documented_ kernel options that we > > As Bruce Evans already said, It's documented. > >> don't n

Re: Still waiting for xl driver reports

1999-10-12 Thread Pierre Beyssac
On Sun, Oct 10, 1999 at 04:59:34PM -0400, Bill Paul wrote: > A while back I posted a message here saying that I'd changed the xl driver > a bit to hopefully improve performance for 3c90xB and later adapters (i.e. > the "cyclone," "hurricane" and "tornado" chipsets). I asked for people > to report

Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch

1999-10-12 Thread Jonathan M. Bresler
thanks for the note on bouncefilter. i'll take a look at it. may be just what i am looking for.. may be better than what i am using already. always interested in somethatngthat will help me do this better. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" i

Re: kernel broken? (pcm)

1999-10-12 Thread A . Leidinger
On 12 Okt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You can try the patch in (my) PR 'kern/14278'. Works. Bye, Alexander. -- What do you mean, my birth certificate expired? http://netchild.home.pages.de A.Leidinger+Home @ WJPServer.CS.Uni-SB.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PRO

Proper Whacking & Weeding

1999-10-12 Thread Marc van Woerkom
It took me some fiddling to get a -current system from begin of September to build present -current. To achieve this, among other things, I cleaned up. That box is building from source for over two years now, and there were quite a lot of old files in the directory hierarchy. >From rotten he

Request for Flames

1999-10-12 Thread Michael Lucas
Folks, I'm writing a series of web pages on how to ask for help on the FreeBSD mailing lists. >From time to time, some innocent newbie wanders in here asking a question with far too little information. ("CVSup/pn0/sio.c doesn't work. Why not?") On occasion, you folks have taken the time to wri

Linux X Server

1999-10-12 Thread Bill A. K.
Hi, Has anyone ever run a Linux X Server under FreeBSD/Linux Emulation? I'm trying to run the Voodoo Banshee server from Creative Labs. The reason I'm trying to do this is because when I run XFree86 3.3.5, it screws up my console display when I exit X. The Linux Server is looking to open /dev

Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch

1999-10-12 Thread Doug
"Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > > > > > "Accidental" removals from the lists are so common that I give up. I no > > > longer even try to get back on them -- it's been happening for _years_ now, > > > and I have made multiple complaints about it, and if it's not a problem for > > > whoever runs t

Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch

1999-10-12 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
"Jason K. Fritcher" wrote: > > I must say that Jonathan has been more than fair. About a year, maybe a year > and a half ago, I didn't have a dedicated connection, and was doing smtp on > demand, with my ISP spooling mail for me when I wasn't online. On average, I > would get approximate, 20-30 m

Re: scsi tape driver wants an update

1999-10-12 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Matthew Jacob wrote: > > This is a harmless message for the moment. I took a look at the new > make_dev stuff- it's more than a no-brainer to add because there's a lot > of stuff about supported device nodes, etc... I'll try and get back to > this after FreeBSDcon. Funny, phk's comments led me t

Re: 82559 information

1999-10-12 Thread Brooks Davis
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, David Holloway wrote: > To David Greenman or.. whoever is maintaining if_fxp.c > I picked up an 82559 card from compusa today... > Guess what?! It's device id was 0x1030 instead of 0x1229. > > I adjusted my driver to match and it seems to work fine. Support was added in -cu

Re: scsi tape driver wants an update

1999-10-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Daniel C. Sobral" writes: >Matthew Jacob wrote: >> >> This is a harmless message for the moment. I took a look at the new >> make_dev stuff- it's more than a no-brainer to add because there's a lot >> of stuff about supported device nodes, etc... I'll try and get

Re: scsi tape driver wants an update

1999-10-12 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > This is a harmless message for the moment. I took a look at the new > > make_dev stuff- it's more than a no-brainer to add because there's a lot > > of stuff about supported device nodes, etc... I'll try and get back to

Re: scsi tape driver wants an update

1999-10-12 Thread Matthew Jacob
> "This time of the year" == "This time in the release cycle" > > If we want to have a somewhat clean line before 4.0 now is the time > to push it through, not after the code freeze. And could you mention when the code freeze might be so that some of us could plan our work? Perhaps I've missed s

Re: scsi tape driver wants an update

1999-10-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Jacob writes: >> "This time of the year" == "This time in the release cycle" >> >> If we want to have a somewhat clean line before 4.0 now is the time >> to push it through, not after the code freeze. > >And could you mention when the code freeze might be

Re: scsi tape driver wants an update

1999-10-12 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Jacob >writes: > >> "This time of the year" == "This time in the release cycle" > >> > >> If we want to have a somewhat clean line before 4.0 now is the time > >> to push it through, not after the code fre

Re: scsi tape driver wants an update

1999-10-12 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matthew Jacob writes: > >> >And could you mention when the code freeze might be so that some of us >> >could plan our work? Perhaps I've missed something, but I hadn't heard >> >when the freeze would be. I have a *lot* of things to consider changing >> >before it.

Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch

1999-10-12 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > "Accidental" removals from the lists are so common that I give up. I no > > > > longer even try to get back on them -- it's been happening for _years_ now, > > > > and I have made multiple complaints about it, and if it's not a problem for > > > >

SMP stack faults...

1999-10-12 Thread Matthew Jacob
Just a followup question on my question from a week ago or so ther was indeed a stack overflow I'd guess- I check the code path more carefully and there was a 2KB stack buffer there (oof)- and removing it seemed to make the problem go awaySo the question here is "Shouldn't this have been

Re: Linux X Server

1999-10-12 Thread David Scheidt
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Bill A. K. wrote: > Hi, > Has anyone ever run a Linux X Server under FreeBSD/Linux Emulation? I'm > trying to run the Voodoo Banshee server from Creative Labs. The reason I'm Yup. I run a Voodoo Banshee, with the Creative Labs Linux X server. This is on -CURRENT just

Re: Request for Flames

1999-10-12 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Michael Lucas wrote: > > If any of you have copies of messages that you have previously sent, > describing what information you need to solve a particular problem, I > would appreciate it if you would forward these to me. I'll use this > information to write another guide. I guess I ought to se

Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch

1999-10-12 Thread Andre Oppermann
Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > thanks for the note on bouncefilter. > i'll take a look at it. > may be just what i am looking for.. > may be better than what i am using already. > always interested in somethatngthat will help me > do this better. That is what I was talking about. With ezmlm ther

Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch

1999-10-12 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:23 PM +0200 1999/10/12, Andre Oppermann wrote: > I know some guys with list's in the three digit k to one digit M range > which don't have to deal with bounces at any time. I know it's hard > to believe but it's true and I can provide you with names where one > can ask for confirmation.

Re: Why Adaptec 1540 bombing?

1999-10-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> FreeBSD Bob writes: : It is a long shot, but I am curious if anyone knows of any problems in : using the Adaptec 1540A on 3.x or 4.x machines? The aha 1540 driver (me) didn't have access to the 1540A cards, so I made changes blind and never tested (nor did those fol

Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch

1999-10-12 Thread Andre Oppermann
Brad Knowles wrote: > > At 9:23 PM +0200 1999/10/12, Andre Oppermann wrote: > > > I know some guys with list's in the three digit k to one digit M range > > which don't have to deal with bounces at any time. I know it's hard > > to believe but it's true and I can provide you with names where one

Re: World fail + resulting cvsup failures

1999-10-12 Thread John Polstra
> mrynet# cvsup > > > *** > *** runtime error: > ***Segmentation violation - possible attempt to dereference NIL > ***pc = 0x2f > *** > > Abort trap I sent a heads up about this to the list a while ago. There are people working on the kernel problem that ca

Re: Why Adaptec 1540 bombing?

1999-10-12 Thread Darryl Okahata
Warner Losh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you can send me this card, I can see what I can do about making it > work with the aha driver. There are problems with CAM and this > hardware's use of transfer residuals which might make it hard to get > working. If he can't, I've got a 1540A so

Re: Why Adaptec 1540 bombing?

1999-10-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Darryl Okahata writes: : If he can't, I've got a 1540A somewhere (in theory ;-) that I'd be : willing to lend out (if the address is in the US). It's been years : since I've used it, and so I'm not 100% sure that it still works, : though. Well, I could install

Re: Proper Whacking & Weeding

1999-10-12 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 1999-Oct-13 01:03:54 +1000, Marc van Woerkom wrote: >It took me some fiddling to get a -current system from begin of September >to build present -current. It might be useful if you documented exactly what you did. This is likely to be a very popular topic for the next few months... >Is ther

Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.

1999-10-12 Thread Kirk McKusick
I would like to take a step back from the debate for a moment and ask the bigger question: How many real-world applications actually use the block device interface? I know of none whatsoever. All the filesystem utilities go out of their way to avoid the block device and use the raw interface. Does

Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.

1999-10-12 Thread David Scheidt
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Kirk McKusick wrote: > I would like to take a step back from the debate for a moment and > ask the bigger question: How many real-world applications actually > use the block device interface? I know of none whatsoever. All the > filesystem utilities go out of their way to avo

Re: Recent kernel hangs during boot with pnp sio.

1999-10-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug Rabson writes: : If you find yourself with one of these and pnp is turned off, you can : download the DOS utility from 3com. I recently had to do this for a friend : (to turn pnp off). It was harder to find a DOS boot disk :-). Sometimes these programs work wi

Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.

1999-10-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Scheidt writes: : It doesn't run on FreeBSD, but Sybase uses block devices for its dedicated : disk devices. There may be other RDBMSes that do this. EVERY RDBMS that I've ever seen or had to make work with my drivers has been on the raw partition. This is

Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.

1999-10-12 Thread Julian Elischer
If you are going to respond to this. do it to 'freebsd-arch' only I've redirected my resonse there.. don't respond to this one.. On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Kirk McKusick wrote: > I would like to take a step back from the debate for a moment and > ask the bigger question: How many real-world applicati

ESS 1938 Soundcard

1999-10-12 Thread Neal Westfall
I just picked up a cheap PCI soundcard at Fry's for $17.99. The box has a picture of a card using the Trident 4DWAVE chip, but the card in the box had an ESS 1938S chip on it. Now I know there is no support for this card yet, but was wondering if there is any support planned for it in the near f

Re: Linux X Server

1999-10-12 Thread Francis Jordan
"Bill A. K." wrote: > Has anyone ever run a Linux X Server under FreeBSD/Linux Emulation? I'm > trying to run the Voodoo Banshee server from Creative Labs. The reason I'm > trying to do this is because when I run XFree86 3.3.5, it screws up my > console display when I exit X. The Linux Serve

Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.

1999-10-12 Thread Jonathan M. Bresler
Sybase can use either block devices or raw disk. We run all our databases, Sybase, Oracle, etc. on raw disk. the database engineers here would kill me if i were to ask them to use a block device rather than raw disk. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe free

non-512 msdosfs patch

1999-10-12 Thread Chiharu Shibata
This is Chiharu Shibata, who sent the PR(misc/12992) before. That PR's patch is to support non-512bytes/sector media for msdosfs. I have been checking the CVS repository, but the patch is not committed yet. I was hoping to be committed, before the patch is not available by another modification of

Re: PnP problems on install floppy in 4.0-SNAPS from current.freebsd.org

1999-10-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug Rabson writes: : Due to the nature of the pnp code, it might be probed as ed1 instead of : ed0. I have a SBC here that has an onboard PNP ne2000 chip on it. It comes up as ed1 because I have ed0 at a wired address. I don't see ed0 at all, and it just works,

Re: How do I get a PCCARD modem to work?

1999-10-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Justin T. Gibbs" writes: : The pccard brokenness is not sio's fault. If I were following where : our PCCARD support was going, I might take a stab at fixing this myself... Yes. Pccard brokennes *IS* sio's fault. It was written to only deal with ISA busses and ca

Re: 3dfx Driver?

1999-10-12 Thread i think
there was a walkthrough on how to get the linux drivers running through the linux emulation. this is specifically for the quake3 test, i dont know how it will fare on any other programs ( havent tried) but q3test does work. if you want, check it out http://www.cybernet.com/~mtaylor/q3ahowto.htm

How to report problems (was: Request for Flames)

1999-10-12 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 12 October 1999 at 11:08:50 -0400, Michael Lucas wrote: > Folks, > > I'm writing a series of web pages on how to ask for help on the > FreeBSD mailing lists. > > From time to time, some innocent newbie wanders in here asking a > question with far too little information. ("CVSup/pn0/si

Re: Proper Whacking & Weeding

1999-10-12 Thread Marc van Woerkom
> It might be useful if you documented exactly what you did. This is > likely to be a very popular topic for the next few months... Not quite possible, because when things started to look foobar I was not cool enough to keep logging. :) But I know some highlights of my tour: o My Last success

Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.

1999-10-12 Thread Peter Wemm
Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Da vid Scheidt writes: > : It doesn't run on FreeBSD, but Sybase uses block devices for its dedicated > : disk devices. There may be other RDBMSes that do this. > > EVERY RDBMS that I've ever seen or had to make work with my drivers > has

Re: Still waiting for xl driver reports

1999-10-12 Thread Jim Bloom
I keep seeing a watchdog timeout with my 3c905B-TX every time the machine boots. It seems to occur after everything has been probed and /etc/rc has completed; around the time I get my login banner. I am running the dhcp client to get my IP address. I don't pound on the network very much so I can

COMMAND_SET ?

1999-10-12 Thread Chuck Robey
I'm looking at sys/boot/common/pnp.c so I can find out how pnp is handled, and I found something called a COMMAND_SET, and I can't figure out what it means. Any takers? Chuck Robey| Interests include C p

Re: COMMAND_SET ?

1999-10-12 Thread Donald J . Maddox
It's defined in sys/boot/common/bootstrap.h. I think all you want to know is in that file. On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 09:46:12PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > I'm looking at sys/boot/common/pnp.c so I can find out how pnp is handled, > and I found something called a COMMAND_SET, and I can't figure ou

Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch

1999-10-12 Thread Ben Smithurst
Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > i do NOT send the person mail to inform them that the are > being removed from the mailing lists, because their email is bouncing. How about sending a message to them once every 24 hours for, say, a week? I imagine some of those bounces are due to temporary mis

Re: People getting automatically unsub'ed from -arch

1999-10-12 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
Ben Smithurst wrote... > Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > i do NOT send the person mail to inform them that the are > > being removed from the mailing lists, because their email is bouncing. > > How about sending a message to them once every 24 hours for, say, > a week? I imagine some of tho

Freebsd 4.0 and Linux

1999-10-12 Thread mariusz
Hi What depth of FreeBSD's support for Linux applications under FreeBSD 4.0? I can't seem to find adequate information online. Does the support comply with our current requirements for Linux?: minimum kernel version: 2.0.34 minimum glibc version: 2.0.7-19 Ma

Re: Freebsd 4.0 and Linux

1999-10-12 Thread Mike Nowlin
>What depth of FreeBSD's support for Linux applications under >FreeBSD 4.0? I can't seem to find adequate information online. >Does the support comply with our current requirements for Linux?: > >minimum kernel version: 2.0.34 >minimum glibc version: 2.0.7-19

Re: [Patches avail?] Re: MMAP() in STABLE/CURRENT ...

1999-10-12 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew Dillon writes: : Forget the drilling! Blood conducts electricity... simply *installing* : a motherboard in those fraggin sharp-edged sheet metal chassis is enough! I've had one or two cheapo mo-bos that haven't worked at 100MHz after spattering huma