Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-19 Thread Jorn Argelo
Eric Crist wrote: On Dec 17, 2007, at 2:36 AM, Jorn Argelo wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:20:50 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 14:48:35 Dec 15, Jorn Argelo wrote: Greylisting only works so-so nowadays. There was a couple of months it was very effective, but that

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-18 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Dec 17, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Eric Crist wrote: I hear a lot of people saying that greylisting doesn't work, when I have actual numbers for my network proving it does. These numbers are from the first week of May 2007 to today: Greylisted/Rejected Messages: 187560 Spam Tagged Messages:

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-17 Thread Eric Crist
On Dec 17, 2007, at 2:36 AM, Jorn Argelo wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:20:50 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: On 14:48:35 Dec 15, Jorn Argelo wrote: Greylisting only works so-so nowadays. There was a couple of months it was very effective, but that is long gone. Spa

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-17 Thread Jorn Argelo
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:20:50 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 14:48:35 Dec 15, Jorn Argelo wrote: >> Greylisting only works so-so nowadays. There was a couple of months it > was >> very effective, but that is long gone. Spammers aren't stupid, and they >> follow the de

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-16 Thread Jack Raats
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sten and the rest, We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution that would reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). The problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually means. Googling reveals a wh

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-16 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On December 16, 2007 8:13:34 PM +0100 "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Neither of the two packages I recommended are anything close to bayesian filtering, as they don't actually take measure on the content of the mail (which isn't available anyway when the corresponding rul

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-16 Thread Heiko Wundram (Beenic)
Am Samstag, 15. Dezember 2007 14:48:35 schrieb Jorn Argelo: > > Also I believe that rejecting e-mail is a big point of discussion. We > had an internet e-mail environment built about 3 years ago, and there > the users were terrorized by spam. We had some users getting 30 spam > mails a day at leas

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-16 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On 14:48:35 Dec 15, Jorn Argelo wrote: > Greylisting only works so-so nowadays. There was a couple of months it was > very effective, but that is long gone. Spammers aren't stupid, and they > follow the development of anti-spam techniques as much as e-mail admins do. > Greylisting is a start, bu

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-16 Thread Jorn Argelo
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: Am Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2007 03:12:53 schrieb Chuck Swiger: Install the following: /usr/ports/mail/postfix-policyd-weight /usr/ports/mail/postgrey Just as an added suggestion: these two (very!) lightweight packages suffice to keep SPAM out of our com

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-14 Thread Preston Hagar
> > I have found spam assassin with nightly updates of the helpful (there > > are other people developing new regexs daily). > > > > 48 5 * * * /usr/local/bin/sa-update --channel updates.spamassassin.org > > && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd restart > > > > There are other channels you can subscribe

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-13 Thread Sten Daniel Soersdal
Rudy wrote: Steve Bertrand wrote: * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can be filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. Yes, one recommendation for sure. Give up on your first

RE: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-13 Thread Paul Hamilton
ow have it running on 4 different sites. Cheers, Paul Hamilton > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Sten Daniel Soersdal > Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2007 10:12 AM > To: freebsd-questions > Subject: (postfix) SPAM

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-12 Thread Heiko Wundram (Beenic)
Am Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2007 03:12:53 schrieb Chuck Swiger: > Install the following: > > /usr/ports/mail/postfix-policyd-weight > /usr/ports/mail/postgrey Just as an added suggestion: these two (very!) lightweight packages suffice to keep SPAM out of our company pretty much completely. Both a

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-12 Thread Rudy
Steve Bertrand wrote: * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can be filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. Yes, one recommendation for sure. Give up on your first goal. It'll

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-12 Thread Steve Bertrand
>> * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. >> * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can be >> filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. > Yes, one recommendation for sure. Give up on your first goal. It'll > never happen,

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-12 Thread Kurt Buff
On 12/12/07, Sten Daniel Soersdal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution that would > reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). The > problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually means. > Googling reveals a whole

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-12 Thread Pollywog
On Thursday 13 December 2007 03:35:00 Duane Hill wrote: > > It has been pretty low maintenance. I am in the process of evaluating > the possibility of using amavis-new. I used amavis-new on a Linux system and lost the ability to have per-user settings. I had to go with a systemwide setting and

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-12 Thread Steve Bertrand
Duane Hill wrote: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:55:45 -0500 > Steve Bertrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I was going to recommend that, but from my experience, there is no >> real *easy* way to allow users directly to modify their own settings. >> I am probably wrong though. > > Postfix is running

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-12 Thread Duane Hill
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:55:45 -0500 Steve Bertrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was going to recommend that, but from my experience, there is no > real *easy* way to allow users directly to modify their own settings. > I am probably wrong though. Postfix is running here on a FreeBSD server as a

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-12 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Dec 12, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Sten Daniel Soersdal wrote: We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution that would reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). The problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually means. Googling reveals a whole "uni

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-12 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 12 December 2007, Sten Daniel Soersdal said: > We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution that > would reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). > The problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually > means. Googling reveals a whole "u

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-12 Thread Steve Bertrand
>> * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. >> * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can >> be filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. >> >> Neither performance, scalability, license nor cost is of much >> importance to m

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-12 Thread Steve Bertrand
Sten Daniel Soersdal wrote: > We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution that would > reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). The > problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually means. > Googling reveals a whole "universe" of interesting ways b

Re: (postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-12 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 12 December 2007, Sten Daniel Soersdal said: > We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution that > would reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). > The problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually > means. Googling reveals a whole "u

(postfix) SPAM filter?

2007-12-12 Thread Sten Daniel Soersdal
We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution that would reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). The problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually means. Googling reveals a whole "universe" of interesting ways but what should i pursue? The th

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-08 Thread Elvar
ly. I started collecting spam a few years ago, and I use a Bayesian filter called ifile to handle junk. I trained it using just over 117,000 crapmail messages, and I don't get a lot of spam these days... http://www.dnaco.net/~vogelke/Software/Internet/Servers/Mail/Spam/Ifile/

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-04 Thread Karl Vogel
>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:03:06 +0200, Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: R> On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 03:20:58PM -0500, Joe in MPLS wrote: J> I'm running 6.2-STABLE with postfix with cyrus-sasl, imap-uw & horde for J> mail. I'd like to stop depending on clients(Thunderbird & PDAs) for J>

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-02 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
On Sun, 2007-09-30 at 15:20 -0500, Joe in MPLS wrote: > I'm running 6.2-STABLE with postfix with cyrus-sasl, imap-uw & horde for > mail. I'd like to stop depending on clients(Thunderbird & PDAs) for > primary spam control (especially because our PDAs don't do any). AV > scanning would be a plus

Re[4]: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-01 Thread Gerard
On October 01, 2007 at 01:31PM Ryan Phillips wrote: > Martin Hepworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Top posting is gmail being broken - just like Outleek ;-( > > > > as for the whole mailscanner/postfix thing I'm very aware of the issues and > > the fact no-one who actually works WW with likes h

RE: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-01 Thread Terry Sposato
etc. Cheers, Terry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pollywog Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2007 8:48 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix? On Monday 01 October 2007 22:18:00 Chuck Swiger wrote

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-01 Thread Pollywog
On Monday 01 October 2007 22:48:09 Pollywog wrote: > On Monday 01 October 2007 22:18:00 Chuck Swiger wrote: > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > > >> By far the best anti-spam tool I've used with Postfix is policyd- > > >> weight. > > >> mail/postfix-policyd-weight > > > > > >

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-01 Thread Pollywog
On Monday 01 October 2007 22:18:00 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Oct 1, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > >> By far the best anti-spam tool I've used with Postfix is policyd- > >> weight. > >> mail/postfix-policyd-weight > > > > Agreed. +1. Me too. > > Seconded (or thirded :). > > policyd-weig

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-01 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Oct 1, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Philip Hallstrom wrote: By far the best anti-spam tool I've used with Postfix is policyd- weight. mail/postfix-policyd-weight Agreed. +1. Me too. Seconded (or thirded :). policyd-weight is much smaller than amavisd-new or SpamAssassin (it tends to run a couple

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-01 Thread Philip Hallstrom
By far the best anti-spam tool I've used with Postfix is policyd-weight. mail/postfix-policyd-weight Agreed. +1. Me too. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-01 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Monday, October 01, 2007 06:21:48 +0100 Martin Hepworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mailscanner and postfix is perfect combination...no problems with the correct installation type. http://wiki.mailscanner.info/doku.php?id=documentation:configuration:mta: postfix:politics By far the best

Re: Re[2]: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-01 Thread Martin Hepworth
On 10/1/07, Ryan Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Martin Hepworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Top posting is gmail being broken - just like Outleek ;-( > > > > as for the whole mailscanner/postfix thing I'm very aware of the issues > and > > the fact no-one who actually works WW with likes

Re: Re[2]: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-01 Thread Ryan Phillips
Martin Hepworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Top posting is gmail being broken - just like Outleek ;-( > > as for the whole mailscanner/postfix thing I'm very aware of the issues and > the fact no-one who actually works WW with likes him ;-) The Better Gmail plugin for Firefox includes an option t

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-01 Thread Kurt Buff
On 9/30/07, Joe in MPLS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm running 6.2-STABLE with postfix with cyrus-sasl, imap-uw & horde for > mail. I'd like to stop depending on clients(Thunderbird & PDAs) for > primary spam control (especially because our PDAs don't do any). AV > scanning would be a plus too. >

Re[4]: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-01 Thread Gerard
On October 01, 2007 at 06:39AM Martin Hepworth wrote: > Top posting is gmail being broken - just like Outleek ;-( Actually, Outlook can be configured to place replies at the bottom of a replied to message. I am amazed though that you have not been able to figure out how to navigate to the botto

Re: Re[2]: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-01 Thread Martin Hepworth
Top posting is gmail being broken - just like Outleek ;-( as for the whole mailscanner/postfix thing I'm very aware of the issues and the fact no-one who actually works WW with likes him ;-) -- martin On 10/1/07, Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On October 01, 2007 at 01:21AM Martin Hepwor

Re[2]: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-10-01 Thread Gerard
On October 01, 2007 at 01:21AM Martin Hepworth wrote: > On 9/30/07, Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:28:23 Derek Ragona wrote: > > > At 03:20 PM 9/30/2007, Joe in MPLS wrote: > > > >I'm running 6.2-STABLE with postfix with cyrus-sasl, imap-uw & horde > > f

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-09-30 Thread Martin Hepworth
Mailscanner and postfix is perfect combination...no problems with the correct installation type. http://wiki.mailscanner.info/doku.php?id=documentation:configuration:mta:postfix:politics -- Martin On 9/30/07, Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:28:23 Derek Rago

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-09-30 Thread Pollywog
On Sunday 30 September 2007 21:03:06 Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 03:20:58PM -0500, Joe in MPLS wrote: > > I'm running 6.2-STABLE with postfix with cyrus-sasl, imap-uw & horde for > > mail. I'd like to stop depending on clients(Thunderbird & PDAs) for > > primary spam control (espe

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-09-30 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 03:20:58PM -0500, Joe in MPLS wrote: > I'm running 6.2-STABLE with postfix with cyrus-sasl, imap-uw & horde for > mail. I'd like to stop depending on clients(Thunderbird & PDAs) for > primary spam control (especially because our PDAs don't do any). AV > scanning would be

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-09-30 Thread Pollywog
On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:28:23 Derek Ragona wrote: > At 03:20 PM 9/30/2007, Joe in MPLS wrote: > >I'm running 6.2-STABLE with postfix with cyrus-sasl, imap-uw & horde for > >mail. I'd like to stop depending on clients(Thunderbird & PDAs) for > >primary spam control (especially because our PDA

Re: best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-09-30 Thread Derek Ragona
At 03:20 PM 9/30/2007, Joe in MPLS wrote: I'm running 6.2-STABLE with postfix with cyrus-sasl, imap-uw & horde for mail. I'd like to stop depending on clients(Thunderbird & PDAs) for primary spam control (especially because our PDAs don't do any). AV scanning would be a plus too.

best spam filter port(s) for postfix?

2007-09-30 Thread Joe in MPLS
I'm running 6.2-STABLE with postfix with cyrus-sasl, imap-uw & horde for mail. I'd like to stop depending on clients(Thunderbird & PDAs) for primary spam control (especially because our PDAs don't do any). AV scanning would be a plus too. ...jgm _

Re: SPAM Filter

2005-11-02 Thread Martin Hepworth
simple ftp Server. I need some suggestions for a > spam > filter. > > Many thanky in advance. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To u

RE: SPAM Filter

2005-11-01 Thread Brian E. Conklin
:00 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SPAM Filter I'm installing an old laptop with freeBSD 5.4. It's going to be my mail server (postfix) and a simple ftp Server. I need some suggestions for a spam filter. Many thanky in advance. _

Re: SPAM Filter

2005-11-01 Thread Olivier Nicole
> I'm installing an old laptop with freeBSD 5.4. It's going to be my mail > server (postfix) and a simple ftp Server. I need some suggestions for a spam > filter. SpamAssassin (.org) Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.or

SPAM Filter

2005-11-01 Thread Thomas Linton
I'm installing an old laptop with freeBSD 5.4. It's going to be my mail server (postfix) and a simple ftp Server. I need some suggestions for a spam filter. Many thanky in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.f

Re: Spam Filter - Sieve

2003-12-10 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:47:58PM -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: > > I am using Cyrus mail appn and its filter appn is "sieve". FYI I am FreeBSD > > newbie want to learn to filter spam. Any suggetions. > > > > http://spamassassin.org You might wanna combine spamfiler (which is _realy_ good) wi

Re: Spam Filter - Sieve

2003-12-10 Thread Steve Bertrand
> I am using Cyrus mail appn and its filter appn is "sieve". FYI I am FreeBSD newbie > want to learn to filter spam. Any suggetions. > http://spamassassin.org Steve > Thanks in Advance. > Ajit > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.

Re: Spam Filter - Sieve

2003-12-10 Thread Kenzo
ROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:26 AM Subject: Spam Filter - Sieve Hi All, I am using Cyrus mail appn and its filter appn is "sieve". FYI I am FreeBSD newbie want to learn to filter spam. Any suggetions. Thanks in Advance. Ajit _

Spam Filter - Sieve

2003-12-10 Thread Ajitesh K
Hi All, I am using Cyrus mail appn and its filter appn is "sieve". FYI I am FreeBSD newbie want to learn to filter spam. Any suggetions. Thanks in Advance. Ajit ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ques

Re: Spam filter combined with virus filter

2003-01-28 Thread Simon Dick
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 04:23, Dragoncrest wrote: > Looking for a good anti-virus to go with my spam filter. Currently using > spam assassin with mixed results, but now I'm getting more and more of > these stupid viruses coming into the mail server I'd rather deal > w

Re: Spam filter combined with virus filter

2003-01-26 Thread Karl M. Joch
Dragoncrest schrieb: Looking for a good anti-virus to go with my spam filter. Currently using spam assassin with mixed results, but now I'm getting more and more of these stupid viruses coming into the mail server I'd rather deal without. Anybody got a good suggestion for a

Re: Spam filter combined with virus filter

2003-01-26 Thread Odhiambo Washington
* Dragoncrest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030127 07:14]: wrote: > Looking for a good anti-virus to go with my spam filter. Currently > using spam assassin with mixed results, but now I'm getting more and more > of these stupid viruses coming into the mail se

Re: Spam filter combined with virus filter

2003-01-26 Thread Laszlo Vagner
mail system. - Original Message - From: "Dragoncrest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 11:23 PM Subject: Spam filter combined with virus filter > Looking for a good anti-virus to go with my spam filter. Currently u

Spam filter combined with virus filter

2003-01-26 Thread Dragoncrest
Looking for a good anti-virus to go with my spam filter. Currently using spam assassin with mixed results, but now I'm getting more and more of these stupid viruses coming into the mail server I'd rather deal without. Anybody got a good suggestion for a good spam filter/vi

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2003-01-04 Thread Mike Jeays
Mike, this message was originally posted to the FreeBSD-chat mailing list, where by definition it's on topic. It is definitely not on topic for FreeBSD-questions. Please don't forward this sort of thing to this list. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. I

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2003-01-04 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-01-05T00:27:01Z, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > there's one thing that everybody on the list can do to help: don't reply > to off-topic or offensive mail messages. Actually, Greg, there are two things we can do. The second is to GPG-sign *and* GPG-verify email. I'm

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2003-01-04 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 4 January 2003 at 13:58:59 -0500, Mike Jeays wrote: > Brett Glass wrote: > >> At 07:05 AM 1/1/2003, Cliff Sarginson wrote: >> >>> Let's stop kicking Richard Stallman. He has his own agenda. >> >> It should remain his own. >> >>> But GCC is why you can compile FreeBSD. >> >> No, it's

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2003-01-04 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 4 January 2003 at 17:05:26 -0500, Daniel Goepp wrote: >> On 04 Jan 2003 19:13:13 +, "Stacey Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >>> Dude, >>>You don't know me, nor have any idea what I'm about. >> >> Well, since Vicki gives me head everyday, I'd say I know you quite >> well.

RE: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2003-01-04 Thread Daniel Goepp
Oh come on, we can behave better than this...In normal conversation, there is no reason to use such potentially offensive language, when discussing FreeBSD. Which I might add what this list is supposed to be about. At least, I know that's why I signed up for it. On 04 Jan 2003 19:13:13 +, "S

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2003-01-04 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 01:58:59PM -0500, Mike Jeays wrote: > Brett Glass wrote: > > GCC is a great gift to the world, and has made a huge difference to > the development of open-source software. It can't be all that mediocre > if it has destroyed the market for higher-quality compilers! Window

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2003-01-04 Thread Bosko Milekick
On 04 Jan 2003 19:13:13 +, "Stacey Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Dude, >You don't know me, nor have any idea what I'm about. Well, since Vicki gives me head everyday, I'd say I know you quite well. Not that she's good at it, but hey, what more can you expect for $5? > For your inf

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2003-01-04 Thread Paul Saab
>Please stop cc'ing the list on this thread. 1. Don't bottom quote, it's terribly annoying. 2. Since you're a clueless negro who couldn't compile helloworld.c if his life depended on it, shut the fuck up. Sincerely, Paul -- Paul Saab [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://fastmail.fm - Fas

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2003-01-04 Thread Stacey Roberts
On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 18:58, Mike Jeays wrote: > Brett Glass wrote: > > >At 07:05 AM 1/1/2003, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > > > > > > > >>Let's stop kicking Richard Stallman. > >>He has his own agenda. > >> > >> > > > >It should remain his own. > > > > > > > >>But GCC is why you can compile

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2003-01-04 Thread Mike Jeays
Brett Glass wrote: At 07:05 AM 1/1/2003, Cliff Sarginson wrote: Let's stop kicking Richard Stallman. He has his own agenda. It should remain his own. But GCC is why you can compile FreeBSD. No, it's not. You can compile FreeBSD because it's written in C. GCC just happens to b

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-29 Thread Brett Glass
At 06:13 PM 12/28/2002, Harry Tabak wrote: >I've been in contact with the port maintainer. His position: 1) This problem is out >of scope for him, 2) He is away on holiday and can't easily access the FreeBSD >cluster, 3) Other pressures will keep him from this problem for several weeks. He >ad

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-29 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-28 13:49:31 -0700: > Seems to me that this is an invitation to government > regulation -- interfering with the mail is a criminal > offense for good reason. so you think you have a *right* to send me email? you must be joking. -- If you cc me or remove the

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Stacey Roberts
; > you be willing to give those individuals a phone call to talk about your > > message, instead, or ask their postmaster to change their spam-filter to > > let your mail through? > > In this case, the package configuration puts 'spam' in a separate folder > an

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Harry Tabak
r ISP, etc, etc. How many bounced messages are you talking about, approximately? Would you be willing to give those individuals a phone call to talk about your message, instead, or ask their postmaster to change their spam-filter to let your mail through? In this case, the package configuration

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Harry Tabak
Brett Glass wrote: At 09:16 AM 12/28/2002, Harry Tabak wrote: I can't really stop the Spambouncer people from shouting "fire" from their own website -- freedom of speech and all that. But should FreeBSD act as an amplifier. I personally believe that spam is a serious security issue (see my

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread phk
CAN WE GET THIS THREAD KILLED NOW ??? It has nothing to do with FreeBSD. Please shut up and move this thread somewhere else! Poul-Henning In message <1041114029.3577.60.camel@pitbull>, Shawn Duffy writes: > >--=-hYgamAC/8Ubo1V9A/Ysq >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Colin Faber
I would say a better solution that blocks would be header/body based phrase and word matching on a weighting system like spamassassin provides. The False positive rates for such a system are MUCH lower than what you could ever hope for with a blacklist. Also regarding Inflow. They have been warned

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Marcel Stangenberger
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, Chris Orr wrote: > *doesnt want to get laws very involved with the internet* > better yet, who's laws should be followed then? should the world follow the american laws like loyal puppies or should we follow another countries laws? perhaps the law of the country of the sendin

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Shawn Duffy
at can you do... although I am sure someone somewhere will > > > > > > probably sue over it and win... > > > > > > > > > > > > shawn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-12-28

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Chris Orr
> well then, what can you do... although I am sure someone somewhere will > > > > > > probably sue over it and win... > > > > > > > > > > > > shawn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On S

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
ll > > > > > probably sue over it and win... > > > > > > > > > > shawn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-12-28 at 15:32, Duncan Patton a Campbell wrote: > > > > > > How do you find

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Shawn Duffy
gt; > > > > How do you find if you are on the list? And who has the list? > > > > > > > > > > Can they be sued? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Duncan (Dhu) Campbell > &g

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Chuck Swiger
Harry Tabak wrote: [This is a resend. Ironically, the orignal was blocked by FreeBSD's spam filter, I've had to send this from another account] I'm sorry to hear that you've had problems with spam filters; like most things (and most people), they aren't perfect and the

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
be sued? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Duncan (Dhu) Campbell > > > > > > > > On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:45:23 -0500 > > > > Harry Tabak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > [T

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Chris Orr
t; > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Duncan (Dhu) Campbell > > > > > > On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:45:23 -0500 > > > Harry Tabak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > [This is a resend. Ironically, the orignal was blocked by FreeBSD&#x

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread phk
I _really_ fail to see what this has to do with FreeBSD. Can you please move this to a more appropriate forum ? I'm sure there are lists and groups out there where the black-listing crew communicates. Thankyou! Poul-Henning In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Duncan Patton a Campb ell writes: >--

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:11:50 -0800 (PST) Rick Hamell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Seems to me that this is an invitation to government > > regulation -- interfering with the mail is a criminal > > offense for good reason. > > Email is not regulated by the government. > > Rick

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Pete Fritchman
(please tell me this is just a dream, and this thread really isn't happening and I am not participating...) ++ 28/12/02 08:45 -0500 - Harry Tabak: | I am not sure which list is best for this issue, hence the cross | posting. I believe spam and anti-spam measures are security issues -- The

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Marcel Stangenberger
On Sat, 28 Dec 2002, Bosko Milekic wrote: > On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 02:00:12PM -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > > I personally believe that spam is a serious security issue (see > > my paper at http://www.brettglass.com/spam/). However, be warned > > that this list's Supreme Moderator may declare your

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Abe
Abe wrote: Are you sure that the 66.45.0.0/17 block is from sb-blockdomains.rc file? Nevermind. I found the Inflow entry in sb-blockdomains.rc file. :) Regards, Abe Ro To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Bosko Milekic
On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 02:00:12PM -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > I personally believe that spam is a serious security issue (see > my paper at http://www.brettglass.com/spam/). However, be warned > that this list's Supreme Moderator may declare your posting to > be "off-topic," because it doesn't re

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Rick Hamell
> Seems to me that this is an invitation to government > regulation -- interfering with the mail is a criminal > offense for good reason. Email is not regulated by the government. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Brett Glass
At 09:16 AM 12/28/2002, Harry Tabak wrote: >I can't really stop the Spambouncer people from shouting "fire" from their own >website -- freedom of speech and all that. But should FreeBSD act as an amplifier. I personally believe that spam is a serious security issue (see my paper at http://www.

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Abe
support for the Five-Ten-SG blacklist is disabled by default in the sb.rc file. (see http://www.spambouncer.org/#BlacklistSupport). Regards, Abe Ro Harry Tabak wrote: [This is a resend. Ironically, the orignal was blocked by FreeBSD's spam filter, I've had to send this from anoth

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Shawn Duffy
on the list? And who has the list? > > > > > > Can they be sued? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Duncan (Dhu) Campbell > > > > > > On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:45:23 -0500 > > > Harry Tabak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Chris Orr
ton a Campbell wrote: > How do you find if you are on the list? And who has the list? > > Can they be sued? > > Thanks, > > Duncan (Dhu) Campbell > > On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:45:23 -0500 > Harry Tabak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [This is a resend. Iro

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
; > > Thanks, > > > > Duncan (Dhu) Campbell > > > > On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:45:23 -0500 > > Harry Tabak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > [This is a resend. Ironically, the orignal was blocked by FreeBSD's spam > >

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
How do you find if you are on the list? And who has the list? Can they be sued? Thanks, Duncan (Dhu) Campbell On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:45:23 -0500 Harry Tabak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [This is a resend. Ironically, the orignal was blocked by FreeBSD's spam > filter, I&#x

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Kevin Golding
Someone, quite probably Harry Tabak, once wrote: >> From: Chuck Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> There's not much you can do but what you already are doing. Complain. >> >> You complain to the people using the software, and if they can't >> configure it, they will probably stop using it if they care. >

Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter.

2002-12-28 Thread Darren Reed
In some mail from Allan Jude, sie said: > > This is not all that surprising > The behavior you are talking about, blocking entire isp's and blocks of > ips, is the same as the other service you mentioned earlier, SPEWS. > > SPEWS has blocked 2 entire c-classes at my isp, preventing my company > f

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