Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
User Freebsd wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: Approximately 15000 portsnap snapshots (i.e., /var/db/portsnap or /usr/local/portsnap directories) are being kept updated on systems which send HTTP requests to portsnap*.freebsd.org. Of these, about 4300 are running FreeBSD 6.0, 4500 are running FreeBSD 6.1, 2400 are running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, 300 are running FreeBSD 5.5, and the remaining 3500 are using copies of portsnap installed from the ports tree (presumably on earlier FreeBSD releases, since the portsnap port won't install if portsnap is already part of the FreeBSD base system). 'k, *this* sounds like it might be perfect ... would it be possible to get a copy of the portsnap logs to see about setting up some sort of auto-parse? Maybe setup some statistics and graphs? You mean something like http://www.daemonology.net/portsnap/stats.html ? BTW, is portsnap meant to replace cvsup, or ... ? Or are we still only getting half the picture if we look at portsnap only? There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. Colin Percival ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Good day! I wanted to mount cdrom and flash as user not root. How I can do it? What I must write in /etc/fstab-u user ? With best regards. Andrei Elizarov -- Dr. A.Yu. Elizarov mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Monday 31 July 2006 14:34, A.Elizarov wrote: Good day! I wanted to mount cdrom and flash as user not root. How I can do it? What I must write in /etc/fstab-u user ? With best regards. Andrei Elizarov Try reading the handbook section 9.22 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT -- In case something goes wrong use .. BOFH excuse #136: Daemons loose in system pgpU2NDqYGnMx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
Colin Percival wrote: There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. Also, I would guess that some people who run multiple FreeBSD systems, use some sort of local propagation of either the entire ports tree, or locally compiled packages. I work as a sysadmin at the students computer lab at the mathematics department at the Norwegian university of science and technology, and we take this approach. Not that the maths department is a large one, but we have fifty-some workstations and a couple of servers running FreeBSD. Only one or two of which would show up in the portsnap stats. Svein Halvor signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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El día Monday, July 31, 2006 a las 02:34:50PM +, A.Elizarov escribió: Good day! I wanted to mount cdrom and flash as user not root. How I can do it? What I must write in /etc/fstab-u user ? I'm doing exactly this with the automount daemon; for details of the configuration and involved files see the attached description; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://guru.UnixLand.de/ $Id: automount.txt,v 1.2 2006/02/27 13:19:34 guru Exp $ for automounting CDROM (and other devices) you configure /etc/amd.conf: [ global ] normalize_hostnames =no print_pid = no restart_mounts = yes auto_dir = /a log_file = /var/log/amd log_options =all #debug_options = all plock = no cache_duration =6 dismount_interval = 20 selectors_on_default = yes # config.guess picks up sunos5 and I don't want to edit my maps yet # os = sos5 # if you print_version after setting up os, it will show it. print_version = no map_type = file search_path =/etc/amdmaps:/usr/lib/amd:/usr/local/AMD/lib browsable_dirs = yes [ /a ] map_name = amd.cdrom [ /u ] map_name = amd.usb /etc/amdmaps/amd.cdrom: cdrom type:=cdfs;fs:=/cdrom;dev:=/dev/acd0;opts:=ro /etc/amdmaps/amd.usb: usb type:=pcfs;fs:=/mnt/usb;dev:=/dev/da0s1;opts:=rw /etc/rc.conf: # # automount daemon rpcbind_enable=YES nfs_client_enable=YES amd_enable=YES amd_flags= then you just pick-up the directory /a/cdrom with Konqueror and drag and drop the (video) file there to the Xine window, for example. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sendiing mail triggers fetchmail...
Chris T. wrote: I'm going to set a cron job to get mail repeatedly. I was just wondering if anyone know if it's possible to get postfix to execute a script before or after it sends mail. I'd like to schedule a special fetchmail cron job for say 5 seconds after mail is sent on an account. I'm doing a search on the subject but I obviously don't know the proper search terms yet. And similarly can Cyrus-Imap trigger a script before and or after mail retrieval? Chris You might want to consider signing up for the Postfix forum: http://www.postfix.org/lists.html The author of Postfix regularly answers questions on that forum and could undoubtedly help you out. -- +==+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Gerard Seibert Zzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| icq: 95653152 FAX: (845) 228-1602 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | //This Space Available// +==+ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
Colin Percival wrote: There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. Even when I upgrade to 6 I think it unlikely I'll be switching to portsnap for 2 main reasons: 1) I know csvup; I have config files I understand; there is local documentation which I don't want to have to update. This may change at some point if I have time to become familiar with portsnap and its advantages are important enough. 2) As long as portsnap overwrites local changes to the ports tree, it's not for me. If you want to count by port tree download, ignoring cvsup, would, I think be a mistake. It seems to me that nothing done *now*, will ever give you a count of how many FreeBSD systems there are *now* and that there are disadvantages and advantages to all the systems proposed. Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing sent from local host - will count systems from any version of FreeBSD, but will never count everything because sites with multiple hosts may easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will get an order of magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems with variable IPs? I don't know enough about the internals of either portsnap or cvsup to know if there is some kind of unique id associated with hosts. If not, then you'd wildly over count for many home-based, variable IP systems. And then there's NAT'ed systems too :-( Putting something into the base system (e.g. periodic), if off by default will find many people not bothered to turn it on, but if on by default could easily upset people over privacy concerns. Also, you'll miss every system which doesn't upgrade to whatever latest version has the counting. It's clear from reading this list for a while that there are plenty of hosts out there not running the latest version, with good reasons for that. But what percentage, it's impossible to tell without some kind of counting :-) --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sendiing mail triggers fetchmail...
Chris T. wrote: I'm going to set a cron job to get mail repeatedly. I was just wondering if anyone know if it's possible to get postfix to execute a script before or after it sends mail. I'd like to schedule a special fetchmail cron job for say 5 seconds after mail is sent on an account. I'm doing a search on the subject but I obviously don't know the proper search terms yet. And similarly can Cyrus-Imap trigger a script before and or after mail retrieval? People normally configure their .forward file to run scripts, but if you want it fired off by the MTA like Postfix, look into integrating procmail with Postfix. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf states
Thanks a lot for the tips, will keep them in mind. I have seen those states on port 53 for udp. p.s. pf works like a charm just for the interest, i looked into /etc/rc.firewall and i was just terrified by it. pf looks like a breath of fresh air. On 7/31/06, Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 09:33:15PM +, Ivan Levchenko wrote: Thanks, i have some knowledge of these things (at least i have been reading the man pages for pf and altq, and the openbsd pf faq =) .. like always ... there is still more reading ahead. thanks. The thing that I forgot to mention is that pf tries to keep state for udp and icmp, even though these are not strictly stateful protocols. So there are state entries that you will not find any information about if you go read about icmp or udp. For instance, if you have a default block in rule, but a pass out icmp keep state and you send out a ping (icmp echo-request) then pf will create a state waiting for the echo reply and let it in. The same goes for udp, which is often seen on port 53 for DNS. It's good that you want to know what is going on and are learning. Too many people do not. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | -- Best Regards, Ivan Levchenko Manager of Programming department [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP-AUTH woes.
On Sunday 30 July 2006 23:21, Greg Groth wrote: FreeBSD 6.1 saslauthd version 2.1.22 sendmail version 8.13.6 My problem is that sendmail is not authenticating plain text passwords. From my /etc/mail/hostname.mc file: define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS',`PLAIN LOGIN')dnl TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`PLAIN LOGIN')dnl However when I telnet to the server I find the following: 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 From my /etc/make.conf: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL=2 SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 From my /usr/local/lib/sasl2/Sendmail.conf file: pwcheck_method: saslauthd From my /var/log/maillog file: Jul 30 23:08:01 mail sendmail[4061]: NOQUEUE: connect from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 30 23:08:01 mail sendmail[4061]: STARTTLS: ServerCertFile missing Jul 30 23:08:01 mail sendmail[4061]: AUTH: available mech=NTLM LOGIN ANONYMOUS PLAIN GSSAPI OTP DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5, allowed mech=EXTERNAL GSSAPI KERBEROS_V4 DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 Jul 30 23:08:01 mail sendmail[4061]: k6V481s5004061: Milter: no active filter Everything seems to be in place. SASL is running, and is working fine with the included testing tools, but sendmail does not seem to be accepting plain text logins. This is the same setup I have up and running on a 6.0 box, but it doesn't seem to be working now. Any ideas on what I might have screwed up? TIA Greg Groth did you buildworld before you recompiled sendmail? ive found that if i buildworld, that before i recompile sendmail (to implement sasl2) that i have to make clean on my /usr/src, or else make will try to use what was already recompiled for sendmail during the buildworld. hth, jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP-AUTH woes.
did you buildworld before you recompiled sendmail? ive found that if i buildworld, that before i recompile sendmail (to implement sasl2) that i have to make clean on my /usr/src, or else make will try to use what was already recompiled for sendmail during the buildworld. hth, jonathan This is a relatively fresh install, and I did update my ports with portsnap / portmanager, then cvsuped src-all and ran buildworld before playing around with this. I did not run make clean before the buildworld process though. I did attempt to rebuild just sendmail after I started having these problems: cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail make clean make depend make make install Nothing changed though. I was thinking on this a bit further, and although I don't have any of the error messages, I believe I was running into similar issues with Postfix last week. The box in question died on me, I don't have a battery backup and we had a brownout. While fscking the system because of the first brownout, we had a second, which rendered the box useless. I recall moving the unused sasl mechanisms out of /usr/local/lib/sasl2 into a deactivated directory (per some how-tos), and ended up with plain being the only mechanism left, and Postfix started giving error messages about no mechanisms available and couldn't seem to find plain text. I figured I screwed something up with Postfix, and went back to sendmail for this install until I had more time to play around with Postfix. I'll try the make clean / buildworld thing tonight to see if that helps, and post back if it doesn't. Best regards, Greg Groth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fujitsu RX220 Network Card not working (Broadcom BCM5780)
Hi I just bought a Fujitsu Primergy RX220 and network cards are not working. I have FreeBSD 6.1 Any hint what shoud I do? The network cards are based on chipset BCM5780 best regards ovidiu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wine and FreeBSD how to
I installed wine on my 6.1 system but I don't see a config file anywhere on the system. Has anyone installed and used Wine successfully that could point me towards an easy FreeBSD how to? Or something similar. I told my 7 year old I would load a game for him and wanted to look for an easy how too. Sincerely, Joshua Lewis ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wine and FreeBSD how to
On 7/31/06, Joshua Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed wine on my 6.1 system but I don't see a config file anywhere on the system. Has anyone installed and used Wine successfully that could point me towards an easy FreeBSD how to? Or something similar. I told my 7 year old I would load a game for him and wanted to look for an easy how too. Sincerely, Joshua Lewis ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a configuration utility I used, can't remeber the name, but the name should be obvious using this - it'll create the base wine directory and such like that: $ ls /usr/local/bin | grep wine ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ssh problems ...
Hi All, I'm trying to ssh to a remote linux PC using the command: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -l kb5 -v doing this presents me with an error below : OpenSSH_3.9p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7a Feb 19 2003 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug1: Connecting to ssh.sanger.ac.uk [193.62.203.55] port 22. debug1: connect to address 193.62.203.55 port 22: Connection refused debug1: Connecting to ssh.sanger.ac.uk [193.62.203.54] port 22. debug1: connect to address 193.62.203.54 port 22: Connection refused ssh: connect to host ssh.sanger.ac.uk port 22: Connection refused I've tried also to connect to a nother host (which I know works) with similar results. I'm a bit of a newbie to this whole ssh thing, so I'm not sure if I should check for conflicts on port 22, or something like that ? I've already disabled my local firewall with no luck, but was wondering if the problem could be the overall network firewall blocking my access ? Thanks for any help ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
And on the subject, has anyone noticed this email from someone @Promise to the scsi mailing list? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2006-July/002543.html And, did you notice the followup to that message? It directed the poster to submit a PR with 'patch' for it. Unfortunately, the Email address in the message was mangled with an extra set of 'http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html' so I don't know if it got the job done. That annoyance is easy enough to figure out if anyone is of a mind. But it might turn away a sceptic who doesn't _really_ want to be informed. I don't know which category the original poster would be in. jerry -- Joao Barros ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh problems ...
Kevin Brick wrote: Hi All, I'm trying to ssh to a remote linux PC using the command: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -l kb5 -v doing this presents me with an error below : OpenSSH_3.9p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7a Feb 19 2003 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug1: Connecting to ssh.sanger.ac.uk [193.62.203.55] port 22. debug1: connect to address 193.62.203.55 port 22: Connection refused debug1: Connecting to ssh.sanger.ac.uk [193.62.203.54] port 22. debug1: connect to address 193.62.203.54 port 22: Connection refused ssh: connect to host ssh.sanger.ac.uk port 22: Connection refused I've tried also to connect to a nother host (which I know works) with similar results. I'm a bit of a newbie to this whole ssh thing, so I'm not sure if I should check for conflicts on port 22, or something like that ? I've already disabled my local firewall with no luck, but was wondering if the problem could be the overall network firewall blocking my access ? Thanks for any help ... i just sshed to ssh.sanger.ac.uk and it connected just fine, so it looks like you have something going on thats blocking access to the machine in question. Of course I couldnt connect, but i had to add the host to my known hosts and it asked me for a PW, etc. If you are at work, there is most likely a firewall in place blocking outbound access on everything but a very few select ports (port 80, etc). can we get some more details on your setup? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Building GVim
I'm trying to build GVim for PCBSD 1.2 with the ports system. The build goes fine, but when running GVim it refuses to start the Gui on the grounds that it can't find any fonts. PCBSD is pretty much freebsd 6.1 with KDE 3.5, can anyone advise on what I'm overlooking? -- Robin Becker ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
portupgrade ruby package
hi guys, portaudit reperoted a vulnerability on the ruby package, so i did the following: # cvsup -L 2 ports-supfile # portsdb -Uu # portupgrade -rR ruby but i encountered this error message, i can't upgrade ruby. --- Upgrading 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' to 'ruby-1.8.4_9,1' (lang/ruby18) --- Building '/usr/ports/lang/ruby18' === Cleaning for ruby-1.8.4_9,1 NOTE: You can enable pthread support by defining WITH_PTHREADS variable, but not recommended since this might break some ruby apps. === ruby-1.8.4_9,1 has known vulnerabilities: = ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html = ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html = Please update your ports tree and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade94211.0 env PORT_UPGRADE=yes make PORT_UPGRADE=yes ** Fix the problem and try again. --- Skipping 'databases/ruby-bdb' (ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) because a requisite package 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to force) --- Skipping 'sysutils/portupgrade' (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) because a requisite package 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! lang/ruby18 (ruby-1.8.4_8,1) (unknown build error) * databases/ruby-bdb (ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) * sysutils/portupgrade (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 2 skipped and 1 failed any ideas on how to fix this? TIA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
which assembler to use
Hello all I want to learn assembly language properly so that I can understand FreeBSD assembly code and also write assembly code. Which assembler do I need to use : as or nasm ? Please help me out. -- oo@@oo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade ruby package
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:07:39 +0800 jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys, portaudit reperoted a vulnerability on the ruby package, so i did the following: # cvsup -L 2 ports-supfile # portsdb -Uu # portupgrade -rR ruby but i encountered this error message, i can't upgrade ruby. --- Upgrading 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' to 'ruby-1.8.4_9,1' (lang/ruby18) --- Building '/usr/ports/lang/ruby18' === Cleaning for ruby-1.8.4_9,1 NOTE: You can enable pthread support by defining WITH_PTHREADS variable, but not recommended since this might break some ruby apps. === ruby-1.8.4_9,1 has known vulnerabilities: = ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html = ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html = Please update your ports tree and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade94211.0 env PORT_UPGRADE=yes make PORT_UPGRADE=yes ** Fix the problem and try again. --- Skipping 'databases/ruby-bdb' (ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) because a requisite package 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to force) --- Skipping 'sysutils/portupgrade' (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) because a requisite package 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! lang/ruby18 (ruby-1.8.4_8,1) (unknown build error) * databases/ruby-bdb (ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) * sysutils/portupgrade (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 2 skipped and 1 failed any ideas on how to fix this? TIA It may be that portaudit is preventing you from updating. You could try: portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes ruby and see if that allows you to update. I use the -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes all the time for updating. HTH, Randy -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MySQL Signal 10 on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-P6
Good Afternoon, I have an interesting issue with FreeBSD 6.0 and MySQL 5.0. Part of my problem has been discussed serveral times in the past on other mailing lists and it seems there has been fixes for older versions of MySQL. The MySQL server is currently receiving a SIGNAL 10 about once an hour, which is causing many problems with the innodb databases that we have running on this server. I am running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 and MySQL 5.0.22. In all the lists I have read regarding FreeBSD, MySQL and signal 10, it all seems to happen with version 6.0 and the 4.1.x series of MySQL. We were running 4.1.x when the problem first appeared so taking the advice of several mailing lists we upgraded MySQL to version 5.0. We first deinstalled mysql, dist cleaned the install, then did a make on the new version of mysql. Even after the upgrade we are still getting several SIGNAL 10s, usually about once an hour. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciate as this is our production server having issues. We are a small company with limited resources. The server is a dual xeon 2.8ghz dual core processors with 1GB (2x512) of ram. 400GB 7200rpm SATA drive. 80GB 7200rpm SATA drive. Thank you for your time. -Erik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
spamfilter
Hello, I `ve got a spam problem and want to run a spamfilter. There is only a problem i don`t no witch spamfilter to choose. Can anyone give me a tip of a good and simple to run spamfilter??? Ok thanks, Justin. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamfilter
justin wrote: Hello, I `ve got a spam problem and want to run a spamfilter. There is only a problem i don`t no witch spamfilter to choose. Can anyone give me a tip of a good and simple to run spamfilter??? Ok thanks, Justin. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We run CanIT by Roaring Penguin. It is a commercial product that we currently support approx. 84,000 email acocunts on. They do have a free version for small scale operations. CanIT is a combination of spamassassin and mimedefang whith a web interface. You can run mimedefang and spamassassin standalone without the web interface and I believe they are using the GPL license. Later, Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade ruby package
On 7/31/06, jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/31/06, Randy Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:07:39 +0800 jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys, portaudit reperoted a vulnerability on the ruby package, so i did the following: # cvsup -L 2 ports-supfile # portsdb -Uu # portupgrade -rR ruby but i encountered this error message, i can't upgrade ruby. --- Upgrading ' ruby-1.8.4_8,1' to 'ruby-1.8.4_9,1' (lang/ruby18) --- Building '/usr/ports/lang/ruby18' === Cleaning for ruby-1.8.4_9,1 NOTE: You can enable pthread support by defining WITH_PTHREADS variable, but not recommended since this might break some ruby apps. === ruby-1.8.4_9,1 has known vulnerabilities: = ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html = ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html = Please update your ports tree and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade94211.0 env PORT_UPGRADE=yes make PORT_UPGRADE=yes ** Fix the problem and try again. --- Skipping 'databases/ruby-bdb' ( ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) because a requisite package 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to force) --- Skipping 'sysutils/portupgrade' (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) because a requisite package ' ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! lang/ruby18 (ruby-1.8.4_8,1) (unknown build error) * databases/ruby-bdb ( ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) * sysutils/portupgrade (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 2 skipped and 1 failed any ideas on how to fix this? TIA It may be that portaudit is preventing you from updating. You could try: portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes ruby and see if that allows you to update. I use the -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes all the time for updating. HTH, Randy -- i was able to upgrade the ruby package with the tip you provided but i keep on getting the vulnerability warning from portaudit, is this ok? or do i have to run cvsup and portsdb -Uu again to update the database? i failed to mention this message when i did portsdb -Uu Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found Makefile, line 24: warning: pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--cflags returned non-zero status gnome-config: not found Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found Makefile, line 25: warning: pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--libs returned non-zero status i don't run X but i did install xlib coz it was needed by one of the ports. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: User Freebsd wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: Approximately 15000 portsnap snapshots (i.e., /var/db/portsnap or /usr/local/portsnap directories) are being kept updated on systems which send HTTP requests to portsnap*.freebsd.org. Of these, about 4300 are running FreeBSD 6.0, 4500 are running FreeBSD 6.1, 2400 are running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, 300 are running FreeBSD 5.5, and the remaining 3500 are using copies of portsnap installed from the ports tree (presumably on earlier FreeBSD releases, since the portsnap port won't install if portsnap is already part of the FreeBSD base system). 'k, *this* sounds like it might be perfect ... would it be possible to get a copy of the portsnap logs to see about setting up some sort of auto-parse? Maybe setup some statistics and graphs? You mean something like http://www.daemonology.net/portsnap/stats.html ? Not really ... more interested in a simpler graph / #s that denote # of distinct hosts for each version of FreeBSD each month ... depending on the amount of data you can pull out of the logs, getting #s per country, and #s per top level domain (ie. yahoo.com) would be cool too ... Also: gathering the access logs for portsnap.daemonology.net, portsnap1.freebsd.org, and portsnap2.freebsd.org Are those the *only* portsnap servers, or are there more? Again, the idea is to get a complete, and as accurate as possible, picture ... There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. Actually, I'm ashamed to say that I'm still using CVSup also ... going to work on getting myself switched over too ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade ruby package
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:50:28 +0800 jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/31/06, jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/31/06, Randy Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:07:39 +0800 jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys, portaudit reperoted a vulnerability on the ruby package, so i did the following: # cvsup -L 2 ports-supfile # portsdb -Uu # portupgrade -rR ruby but i encountered this error message, i can't upgrade ruby. --- Upgrading ' ruby-1.8.4_8,1' to 'ruby-1.8.4_9,1' (lang/ruby18) --- Building '/usr/ports/lang/ruby18' === Cleaning for ruby-1.8.4_9,1 NOTE: You can enable pthread support by defining WITH_PTHREADS variable, but not recommended since this might break some ruby apps. === ruby-1.8.4_9,1 has known vulnerabilities: = ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html = ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html = Please update your ports tree and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/ruby18. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade94211.0 env PORT_UPGRADE=yes make PORT_UPGRADE=yes ** Fix the problem and try again. --- Skipping 'databases/ruby-bdb' ( ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) because a requisite package 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to force) --- Skipping 'sysutils/portupgrade' (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) because a requisite package ' ruby-1.8.4_8,1' (lang/ruby18) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! lang/ruby18 (ruby-1.8.4_8,1) (unknown build error) * databases/ruby-bdb ( ruby18-bdb-0.5.9_2) * sysutils/portupgrade (portupgrade-2.1.3.2_2,2) --- Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 2 skipped and 1 failed any ideas on how to fix this? TIA It may be that portaudit is preventing you from updating. You could try: portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes ruby and see if that allows you to update. I use the -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes all the time for updating. HTH, Randy -- i was able to upgrade the ruby package with the tip you provided but i keep on getting the vulnerability warning from portaudit, is this ok? or do i have to run cvsup and portsdb -Uu again to update the database? i failed to mention this message when i did portsdb -Uu Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found Makefile, line 24: warning: pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--cflags returned non-zero status gnome-config: not found Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found Makefile, line 25: warning: pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--libs returned non-zero status i don't run X but i did install xlib coz it was needed by one of the ports. I think you'll need to provide more specific information for anyone to be able to help with this. It seems like there are missing dependencies for one of the ports. Someone who is familar with that port may be able to assist you in configuring it for non-X use. Sorry I can't help with this aspect of your updating. Randy -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: Colin Percival wrote: There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. Also, I would guess that some people who run multiple FreeBSD systems, use some sort of local propagation of either the entire ports tree, or locally compiled packages. I work as a sysadmin at the students computer lab at the mathematics department at the Norwegian university of science and technology, and we take this approach. Not that the maths department is a large one, but we have fifty-some workstations and a couple of servers running FreeBSD. Only one or two of which would show up in the portsnap stats. Ya, that is the part that throws the #s out completely ... its those 'ghost machines' that would be nice to see counted somehow ... How about something as innoculous as: fetch http://statsserver.domain/aliveping.php?version=`uname -mr`hostname=`hostname` run as part of periodic daily ... ? uname -mr would have to be properly formatted for a URL, but that would give a distinct IP / hostname for indexing, and OS version, take neglible bandwidth to run, and, I believe, doesn't give out any *sensitive* information ... Then have a daily_statistics_enable=YES in /etc/defaults/perodic.conf, so that ppl can opt out of it ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which assembler to use
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Only OpenSource wrote: Hello all I want to learn assembly language properly so that I can understand FreeBSD assembly code and also write assembly code. Which assembler do I need to use : as or nasm ? Please help me out. Check out NASM. Also, here is a link you should find useful: http://asm.sourceforge.net I've actually been dabbling in assembly in FreeBSD for a short bit. I come from an extensive assembly background on Win32. -- This message was sent using 100% recycled electrons. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Jul 30, 2006, at 8:42 PM, User Freebsd wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Colin Percival wrote: User Freebsd wrote: We can also collect the access information of the cvsup server and portsnap server, can't we? What does that give? Approximately 15000 portsnap snapshots (i.e., /var/db/portsnap or /usr/local/portsnap directories) are being kept updated on systems which send HTTP requests to portsnap*.freebsd.org. Of these, about 4300 are running FreeBSD 6.0, 4500 are running FreeBSD 6.1, 2400 are running FreeBSD 6-STABLE, 300 are running FreeBSD 5.5, and the remaining 3500 are using copies of portsnap installed from the ports tree (presumably on earlier FreeBSD releases, since the portsnap port won't install if portsnap is already part of the FreeBSD base system). BTW, is portsnap meant to replace cvsup, or ... ? Or are we still only getting half the picture if we look at portsnap only? You are getting some fraction of the picture. We don't use portsnap (and cvsup we do use but not that often), for example. We use cvsup here, daily, to update the ports tree ... and based on someone else's post (alex?), finding out that portsnap overwrites the ports tree, which I'm taking to mean it will remove anything I add to it, makes changing over for me a no-op :( Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: portsnap [was Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?]
User Freebsd wrote: We use cvsup here, daily, to update the ports tree ... and based on someone else's post (alex?), finding out that portsnap overwrites the ports tree, which I'm taking to mean it will remove anything I add to it, makes changing over for me a no-op :( Caveat: I don't maintain or use portsnap! The overwrite behaviour was correct last time I checked (several months ago) and was deemed difficult to correct because of the way portsnap worked. The 6.1 man page still says: update Update a ports tree extracted using the extract command. You must run this command to apply changes to your ports tree after downloading updates via the fetch or cron commands. Again, note that in the parts of the ports tree which are being updated, any local changes or additions will be removed. Not insurmountable if you religiously keep all changes in some other repository (tar, cvs?) but I personally do not see enough benefit. That would mean to me that counting would have to include cvsup, even if that under-counted. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
User Freebsd wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: Colin Percival wrote: There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. Also, I would guess that some people who run multiple FreeBSD systems, use some sort of local propagation of either the entire ports tree, or locally compiled packages. I work as a sysadmin at the students computer lab at the mathematics department at the Norwegian university of science and technology, and we take this approach. Not that the maths department is a large one, but we have fifty-some workstations and a couple of servers running FreeBSD. Only one or two of which would show up in the portsnap stats. Ya, that is the part that throws the #s out completely ... its those 'ghost machines' that would be nice to see counted somehow ... How about something as innoculous as: fetch http://statsserver.domain/aliveping.php?version=`uname -mr`hostname=`hostname` run as part of periodic daily ... ? uname -mr would have to be properly formatted for a URL, but that would give a distinct IP / hostname for indexing, and OS version, take neglible bandwidth to run, and, I believe, doesn't give out any *sensitive* information ... Then have a daily_statistics_enable=YES in /etc/defaults/perodic.conf, so that ppl can opt out of it ... But this will then only count from the first version(s) of FreeBSD which contain the periodic job. Then every machine running an earlier release would be a ghost. I think the bottom line I see is that whatever you do, you cannot count everything. *If* some kind of counting could be done *now* using portsnap and cvsup servers that are amenable, then you reasonably quickly start getting some kind of count. The some kind of optional periodic job can also be rolled out and many months down the line it would start to produce potentially more reliable (i.e. higher :-)) figures, assuming ppl were amenable to running it. But if you have to wait for 6.3 or 7.0 or whatever, and then wait for the majority to adopt it, that's longer than I think you want to wait for some kind of answer. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RAID Repair
Greetings, I may be in the wrong place, but I believe the best help to be found for anything technical is this group of people, so here goes: I have a Promise FastTrak S150 TX2 (older PCI SATA/RAID controller), with 2 Maxtor 80GB HDDs connected to it. These HDDs were in a system running XP, but the client lost the RAID configuration (unplugged drives to upgrade memory, plugged back in, XP recognized the drives, but as single drives). The drives were set up as a stripe (RAID 0). I have put this card and drives into my FBSD 6.1 Release system, and of course, BSD recognized the RAID right away, and has it under /dev/ar0. My question is: Is there a way to scan the RAID, and recover the NTFS partition? I've Google'd, but only come up with half results claiming that a dd script can be written, reading 64K chunks off of each drive and rebuilding a complete image. I also have a 250GB HDD on a separate controller that is currently blank where I can rebuild this image if needed. If someone with more experience could advise me on the best way to proceed, I'd be most grateful! Regards, Justin P. Michel Technician - PC Medic Healing your computer ills! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using extended partitions.. ?
Well Well. .Surprise surprise!! Using extended logical partitions in freebsd is easier than I thought! I ran disklabel -w /dev/ad8s9 , then newfs to create a new ufs2 filesystem, and then added the new ufs partition to /etc/fstab. Likewise with my other logical partitions /dev/ad8s10, ad8s11 etc... which were linux ext3fs earlier. Now I'm richer by 30gb!! Hiyaaa! Whaddayaknow! I also read my xp ntfs logical d: drive, so now I can download in any OS and still access them from fbsd. My linux is gone of course, but who wants linux with the linux ABI on fbsd? As simple as that! I'm on fbsd 6.1-p3 fyi. Rgrds On 7/29/06, Gobbledegeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Partition magic looks like the least painful option. Thanks for the tip. I'm just gonna try newfs on the logical partitions once and see :) after I change t ptype to ufs from linux fdisk just for kicks.. Rgrds On 7/29/06, Ian Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 15 Thanks all. I have XP and linux share the xtended partition, and now I want to say bye bye linux (I need XP for worldwind s/w) . That's different then. If you want to keep XP (and keep it within that extended partition) then you can't delete the extended partition. You could use Partition Magic (ono) to delete the linux logical drive, then shrink the extended partition to make space for another slice (maximum of four), which is what you'll need for another UFS slice. Ido not see the extended logical drives containing ext3 from sysinstall that is the problem. You won't - fdisk sees the four slices only, the 'extended partition' being one of those entire, with it's specific type. What does just 'fdisk' say? (you can do this anytime, it just lists) The view from linux | XP fdisk may be useful also. The cmdline freebsd fdisk feels like a throw back tp the pdp-11 days :) Definitely to be used with due care. I generally prefer trusting sysinstall to be good with the maths - but keep a beady eye on it too. So I'm going to try and mount them from bsd below my home folder, without deleting them first... until I work out exactly how to use the fbsd fdiks cmdline without damaging anything. You can mount them, readonly anyway, knowing that the first 'logical drive' within the 'extended partition' appears as ad0s5, the second as ad0s6 etc, assuming ad0 of course. Cheers, Ian -- Rgrds GobbledeGeek [Everything but Gobbledegook.. !!] -- Rgrds GobbledeGeek [Everything but Gobbledegook.. !!] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: But this will then only count from the first version(s) of FreeBSD which contain the periodic job. Then every machine running an earlier release would be a ghost. Agreed, but any active counting will fail dealing with older machines, regardless ... this is something that should have been implemented / started *ages* ago ... we will never have # of sales figures we can market ourselves to vendors based on, but, we also have nothing in the way of # of deployments figures ... I think the bottom line I see is that whatever you do, you cannot count everything. *If* some kind of counting could be done *now* using portsnap and cvsup servers that are amenable, then you reasonably quickly start getting some kind of count. cvsup, i don't believe, will give us any #s, mainly since it doesn't seem to really provide any information: # grep 68851 /var/log/cvsup Apr 29 23:15:08 postgresql cvsupd[68851]: +4338 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (turbine.word-to-the-wise.com) [SNAP_16_1h/17.0] Apr 29 23:15:13 postgresql cvsupd[68851]: =4338 [96Kin+3Kout] pgsql/cvs Apr 29 23:15:13 postgresql cvsupd[68851]: -4338 [97Kin+3Kout] Finished successfully The some kind of optional periodic job can also be rolled out and many months down the line it would start to produce potentially more reliable (i.e. higher :-)) figures, assuming ppl were amenable to running it. But if you have to wait for 6.3 or 7.0 or whatever, and then wait for the majority to adopt it, that's longer than I think you want to wait for some kind of answer. ... true, but if we *never* do anything, we'll never have numbers ... even if there is a 12 month or more adoption curve, that adoption period has to start *somewhere* ... As far as ppl amenable to running it ... if the purpose was properly explained, with periodic reminders on the lists as to what the Stats Project was all about, and as long as the information being sent out is fully explain (ie. make sure ppl realize that nothing of a sensitive nature is being sent out), I think adoption would be alot easier ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
portsdb output and portaudit question
hi guys, i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, at first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes ruby whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains even though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is this normal? any way to fix these? and also prior to portupgrade, i run cvsup then portsdb -Uu and i have the following message/output when i ran portsdb -Uu: Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk- pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found Makefile, line 24: warning: pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--cflags returned non-zero status gnome-config: not found Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+- 2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found Makefile, line 25: warning: pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--libs returned non-zero status my box is running FreeBSD 6.1 as webmail server, i do have xorg libraries installed but i don't have those packages installed, are they part of the xorg libraries? how can i get rid or fix them? TIA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing sent from local host - will count systems from any version of FreeBSD, but will never count everything because sites with multiple hosts may easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will get an order of magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems with variable IPs? For the portsnap usage statistics, I'm measuring how many days of updates were downloaded per day. In the long run this will be equal to the number of systems using portsnap, whether they update daily or monthly, and whether they have a fixed IP address or a different IP address every time. The only problem I've seen with this method is that it is rather sensitive to holidays: There is a dip in measured portsnap usage in late December, folllowed by a sharp spike in early January before the measured usage returns to normal, since many systems were not being updated over the Christmas holiday, and then suddenly needed to catch up in early January (and since they were downloading several weeks of updates, they each looked like several machines). Colin Percival ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portsdb output and portaudit question
jan gestre wrote: i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, at first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes ruby whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains even though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is this normal? any way to fix these? This is expected behavior. The ports system will let you upgrade a vulnerable port without complaint. It will however complain if you try to install (or upgrade to) a version that has vulnerabilities. Since portupgrade complained, it's no surprise that portaudit also complains after the forced upgrade. This means that either the version in ports aren't fixed yet (the existence of a vulnerability of a prior version does not imply that said vulnerability is fixed in the current version), or that your ports tree is out of date. Seeing that the latter is not true, I would say you just have to wait for an updated version to appear in ports. You can create an account at freshports and ad ruby to your watch list. That means you'll get notified when new versions arrive. Svein Halvor signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: portsdb output and portaudit question
On 8/1/06, Svein Halvor Halvorsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jan gestre wrote: i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, at first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes ruby whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains even though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is this normal? any way to fix these? This is expected behavior. The ports system will let you upgrade a vulnerable port without complaint. It will however complain if you try to install (or upgrade to) a version that has vulnerabilities. Since portupgrade complained, it's no surprise that portaudit also complains after the forced upgrade. This means that either the version in ports aren't fixed yet (the existence of a vulnerability of a prior version does not imply that said vulnerability is fixed in the current version), or that your ports tree is out of date. Seeing that the latter is not true, I would say you just have to wait for an updated version to appear in ports. You can create an account at freshports and ad ruby to your watch list. That means you'll get notified when new versions arrive. i portupgrade the previous version ruby-1.8.4_8,1 to the current version which is ruby-1.8.4_9,1 and i also saw from the portaudit complaint that the new version is not anymore affected by the vulnerabilities of the old version meaning the maintainer already fixed this, however portaudit is still complaining. and how about the portsdb output? why is it complaining of stuff i don't have installed? TIA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building GVim
Robin Becker wrote: I'm trying to build GVim for PCBSD 1.2 with the ports system. The build goes fine, but when running GVim it refuses to start the Gui on the grounds that it can't find any fonts. PCBSD is pretty much freebsd 6.1 with KDE 3.5, can anyone advise on what I'm overlooking? I need to set a default guifont before the gui starts; after getting the gui up I can use its menus to select a better looking font. -- Robin Becker ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portsdb output and portaudit question
On 8/1/06, jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/1/06, Svein Halvor Halvorsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jan gestre wrote: i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, at first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes ruby whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains even though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is this normal? any way to fix these? This is expected behavior. The ports system will let you upgrade a vulnerable port without complaint. It will however complain if you try to install (or upgrade to) a version that has vulnerabilities. Since portupgrade complained, it's no surprise that portaudit also complains after the forced upgrade. This means that either the version in ports aren't fixed yet (the existence of a vulnerability of a prior version does not imply that said vulnerability is fixed in the current version), or that your ports tree is out of date. Seeing that the latter is not true, I would say you just have to wait for an updated version to appear in ports. You can create an account at freshports and ad ruby to your watch list. That means you'll get notified when new versions arrive. i portupgrade the previous version ruby-1.8.4_8,1 to the current version which is ruby-1.8.4_9,1 and i also saw from the portaudit complaint that the new version is not anymore affected by the vulnerabilities of the old version meaning the maintainer already fixed this, however portaudit is still complaining. and how about the portsdb output? why is it complaining of stuff i don't have installed? i update the portaudit database and now it's no longer reporting the vulnerability :) which brings me back to my second question regarding the portsdb -Uu output, why is it complaining about those packages which i don't have installed? many thanks in advance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portsdb output and portaudit question
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, jan gestre wrote: hi guys, i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, at first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes ruby whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains even though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is this normal? any way to fix these? and also prior to portupgrade, i run cvsup then portsdb -Uu and i have the following message/output when i ran portsdb -Uu: Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk- pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found Makefile, line 24: warning: pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--cflags returned non-zero status gnome-config: not found Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+- 2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found Makefile, line 25: warning: pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--libs returned non-zero status my box is running FreeBSD 6.1 as webmail server, i do have xorg libraries installed but i don't have those packages installed, are they part of the xorg libraries? how can i get rid or fix them? TIA Have you tried running pkgdb prior to attempting the update? See the man manual for details. You also might try installing 'portmanager' and running like this: portmanager -u -f -l -y It will rebuild the ports system and bring in all of the missing dependencies. Just a thought! -- Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portsdb output and portaudit question
On 8/1/06, Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, jan gestre wrote: hi guys, i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, at first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes ruby whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains even though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is this normal? any way to fix these? and also prior to portupgrade, i run cvsup then portsdb -Uu and i have the following message/output when i ran portsdb -Uu: Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk- pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc ' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found Makefile, line 24: warning: pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--cflags returned non-zero status gnome-config: not found Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+- 2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found Makefile, line 25: warning: pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--libs returned non-zero status my box is running FreeBSD 6.1 as webmail server, i do have xorg libraries installed but i don't have those packages installed, are they part of the xorg libraries? how can i get rid or fix them? TIA Have you tried running pkgdb prior to attempting the update? See the man manual for details. yes i did run pkgdb -fu then proceeded with updating but with the same result. You also might try installing 'portmanager' and running like this: portmanager -u -f -l -y i'll give this one a try and will post back the results. It will rebuild the ports system and bring in all of the missing dependencies. Just a thought! -- Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I want to join comunity
Hello! I am a system administrator and developer. I am using FreeBSD on all of my servers i like it and i modifying and working with it. And I am interested all about it. How can I join to FreeBSD comunity to conctact with the members of comunity. All of them has mail address for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to know more about what i need to have a membership in it. Sorry for my english I am a Russian but i am trying to type without mistakes. With great pleasure Shumakov Evgeniy. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
multiple interfaces on same subnet?
Is it possible to reach two hosts via two interfaces that are both on the same subnet? Example: em0: 172.20.0.1/16 em1: 172.20.0.2/16 And I want to reach 172.20.0.3 via em0 and 172.20.0.4 via em1. From 'netstat -nr' I see a line like this: 172.20/14 link#1 UC 00em0 This seems to say that anything on 172.20/14 should be reached on em0. Is it possible to add a rule that says that 172.20.0.4 should be reachable on em1? I only care about the path of outbound packets. I don't care which interface inbound traffic comes on. I am well aware that this is a fairly strange thing to do. My objective is to have a FreeBSD box balance outbound traffic between two NICs, while being able to select from among many routers that could be the default gateway and having the two NICs connect to different switches for fault tolerance. (I would do the fault tolerance via a watchdog script of some sort) If it weren't for the many routers aspect, it would be reasonable to create separate subnets. I need to be able to select from a group of around 10 possible default gateways and some of those routers I do not control so adding a subnet would be trouble. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade ruby package
On 7/31/06, jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi guys, portaudit reperoted a vulnerability on the ruby package, so i did the following: # cvsup -L 2 ports-supfile # portsdb -Uu # portupgrade -rR ruby but i encountered this error message, i can't upgrade ruby. --- Upgrading 'ruby-1.8.4_8,1' to 'ruby-1.8.4_9,1' (lang/ruby18) --- Building '/usr/ports/lang/ruby18' === Cleaning for ruby-1.8.4_9,1 NOTE: You can enable pthread support by defining WITH_PTHREADS variable, but not recommended since this might break some ruby apps. === ruby-1.8.4_9,1 has known vulnerabilities: = ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html = ruby - multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/76562594-1f19-11db-b7d4-0008743bf21a.html = Please update your ports tree and try again. *** Error code 1 I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the problem is that even the new Ruby port has the vulnerabilities in it. You won't be able to upgrade until those get patched first. This is the first ML message I've seen about this issue, so I don't have any more info. Pat ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want to join comunity
Hello! I am a system administrator and developer. I am using FreeBSD on all of my servers i like it and i modifying and working with it. And I am interested all about it. How can I join to FreeBSD comunity to conctact with the members of comunity. All of them has mail address for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to know more about what i need to have a membership in it. Sorry for my english I am a Russian but i am trying to type without mistakes. With great pleasure Shumakov Evgeniy. The first thing to do is read up in the FreeBSD Handbook about how to contribute to the FreeBSD project. At the same time, sign up for at least this (FreeBSD 'questions') and the FreeBSd 'announce' mailing lists and others in which you might have an interest such as FreeBSD bugs and/or FreBSD current. That will put you in the middle of FreeBSD discussions. There is also one in Russian that you can contact at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You will get an idea of what problems people are having and have an opportunity to suggest ways of correcting them on the Email lists. Then, if you find problems that you can work on, fix them and submit the fixes vix send-pr. If you show yourself as a reliable contributor, you may be asked to be a committer at some later time, etc. Welcome and good luck, jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portsdb output and portaudit question
On 8/1/06, jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/1/06, Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, jan gestre wrote: hi guys, i was trying to portupgrade ruby coz portaudit is complaining of vulnerabilities, i did run cvsup and portsdb -Uu before portupgrade, at first i couldn't upgrade ruby coz portupgrade is complaining maybe coz portaudit but someone in the list suggested this: # portupgrade -Rr -m DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes ruby whoala it installed the ruby package but still portaudit complains even though the installed version is current which has no vulnerability. is this normal? any way to fix these? and also prior to portupgrade, i run cvsup then portsdb -Uu and i have the following message/output when i ran portsdb -Uu: Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk- pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc ' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found Makefile, line 24: warning: pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--cflags returned non-zero status gnome-config: not found Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+- 2.0' found gnome-config: not found Package gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gdk- pixbuf-xlib-2.0.pc ' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0' found Makefile, line 25: warning: pkg-config gtk+-2.0 gdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0--libs returned non-zero status my box is running FreeBSD 6.1 as webmail server, i do have xorg libraries installed but i don't have those packages installed, are they part of the xorg libraries? how can i get rid or fix them? TIA Have you tried running pkgdb prior to attempting the update? See the man manual for details. yes i did run pkgdb -fu then proceeded with updating but with the same result. You also might try installing 'portmanager' and running like this: portmanager -u -f -l -y i'll give this one a try and will post back the results. It will rebuild the ports system and bring in all of the missing dependencies. Just a thought! after almost an eternity i finally was able to upgrade all packages via portmanager, run cvsup then portsdb and with the same end result, i still get those missing..not install... packages :( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Colin Percival wrote: Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing sent from local host - will count systems from any version of FreeBSD, but will never count everything because sites with multiple hosts may easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will get an order of magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems with variable IPs? I don't know enough about the internals of either portsnap or cvsup to know if there is some kind of unique id associated with hosts. If not, then you'd wildly over count for many home-based, variable IP systems. Maybe not so many, my non-static ip hasn't changed since I signed up 3 years ago despite turning off the modem for the odd day or two. Another network I look after also hasn't changed in a year. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portsdb output and portaudit question
jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] after almost an eternity i finally was able to upgrade all packages via portmanager, run cvsup then portsdb and with the same end result, i still get those missing..not install... packages :( It seems to me that you rebuilt your system with portmanager in just a few hours. It would take me a few days to rebuild everything. However, I do have Open Office and the full KDE suite installed. What is the output of the portmanager log. It is in /var/log/portmanager.log. Please post it or send it to me. I want to see what it reports. Ciao! -- +==+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Gerard Seibert Zzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| icq: 95653152 FAX: (845) 228-1602 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | //This Space Available// +==+ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
Chris Whitehouse wrote: Maybe not so many, my non-static ip hasn't changed since I signed up 3 years ago despite turning off the modem for the odd day or two. Another network I look after also hasn't changed in a year. Yes, my IP changed just once in the last 5 years and that was when a new company bought out my cable service provider. Neither power outages nor turning it off manually has changed the IP address. -- +==+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Gerard Seibert Zzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| icq: 95653152 FAX: (845) 228-1602 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | //This Space Available// +==+ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Counting portsnap and cvsup accesses is non-intrusive - i.e. nothing sent from local host - will count systems from any version of FreeBSD, but will never count everything because sites with multiple hosts may easily have local propagation mechanisms. But you will get an order of magnitude. However, how do you deal with systems with variable IPs? I don't know enough about the internals of either portsnap or cvsup to know if there is some kind of unique id associated with hosts. If not, then you'd wildly over count for many home-based, variable IP systems. Maybe not so many, my non-static ip hasn't changed since I signed up 3 years ago despite turning off the modem for the odd day or two. Another network I look after also hasn't changed in a year. But one can't rely on that. You'll definitely see more than one ip associated with my laptop, if I move it around. A more reliable way that I can think of is generating a unique ID number when a system finishes installation or upon the first boot. However, it may involve some additional privacy problem. What do you think? -- Xiao-Yong ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
Joao Barros wrote: And on the subject, has anyone noticed this email from someone @Promise to the scsi mailing list? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2006-July/002543.html I wanted to reply about this post but I'm hesitating because I know there are more people who talk than act and I can only talk because I wouldn't know how to act here. Still... Assuming it's genuine Promise are offering to supply a driver for FreeBSD. The responder points them to the send-pr doc (unfortunately with a broken link but that is not my point.) The reply is a typical laconic freebsd reply which would be sufficient for another freebsd user. However this is an offer which could possibly be considered gold dust since it is a hardware manufacturer offering to work with FreeBSD. I wanted to ask if there is some sort of channel whereby he could be given active support so that he doesn't just go away because he thinks nobody is particularly interested. Of course maybe someone has already responded off list in which case very sorry for the noise. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
Xiao-Yong Jin wrote: But one can't rely on that. You'll definitely see more than one ip associated with my laptop, if I move it around. A more reliable way that I can think of is generating a unique ID number when a system finishes installation or upon the first boot. However, it may involve some additional privacy problem. What do you think? Unquestionable a privacy problem. Perhaps even illegal in some jurisdictions without the end users knowledge and permission. -- +==+ |\ _,,,---,,_ | Gerard Seibert Zzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-'| icq: 95653152 FAX: (845) 228-1602 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) |//This Space Available// +==+ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
On 7/31/06, User Freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: Colin Percival wrote: There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. Also, I would guess that some people who run multiple FreeBSD systems, use some sort of local propagation of either the entire ports tree, or locally compiled packages. I work as a sysadmin at the students computer lab at the mathematics department at the Norwegian university of science and technology, and we take this approach. Not that the maths department is a large one, but we have fifty-some workstations and a couple of servers running FreeBSD. Only one or two of which would show up in the portsnap stats. Ya, that is the part that throws the #s out completely ... its those 'ghost machines' that would be nice to see counted somehow ... How about something as innoculous as: fetch http://statsserver.domain/aliveping.php?version=`uname -mr`hostname=`hostname` run as part of periodic daily ... ? uname -mr would have to be properly formatted for a URL, but that would give a distinct IP / hostname for indexing, and OS version, take neglible bandwidth to run, and, I believe, doesn't give out any *sensitive* information ... DAILY! Are you out of your mind? and we don't need to collect hostnames. Can we just start with something simple like: 'uname -mr | nc statistics.freebsd.org port' in the monthly periodic. On the server side you can make some custom program to collect these and the ip address (not that it's needed). This will work in the mean time: 'nc -klo port statistics_data_file' Then have a daily_statistics_enable=YES in /etc/defaults/perodic.conf, so that ppl can opt out of it ... -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL Signal 10 on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-P6
On Monday, 31 July 2006 at 11:35:04 -0400, Erik Kristensen wrote: I have an interesting issue with FreeBSD 6.0 and MySQL 5.0. Part of my problem has been discussed serveral times in the past on other mailing lists and it seems there has been fixes for older versions of MySQL. From what you say here, there's no reason to believe that your problem has been mentioned at all. The MySQL server is currently receiving a SIGNAL 10 about once an hour, which is causing many problems with the innodb databases that we have running on this server. Signal 10 is SIGBUS (bus error), an error detected by the hardware. The most frequent causes are bugs in the hardware and bugs in the software. The only way to find out what causes the problem is to investigate further. Never make the assumption that any two SIGBUS problems are related. Still, SIGBUS is interesting, because just about every such error in FreeBSD is reported as a SIGSEGV (signal 11). I am running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 and MySQL 5.0.22. In all the lists I have read regarding FreeBSD, MySQL and signal 10, it all seems to happen with version 6.0 and the 4.1.x series of MySQL. I can't confirm that at all. I've been chasing a number of very specific problems for some time, and as far as I can tell, there are very few cases where the server crashes. One case that I'm investigating is BUG#12251 (http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=12251). If any of this looks familiar to you, please let me know. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciate as this is our production server having issues. We are a small company with limited resources. A start would be the documented method to track down crashes: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/debugging-server.html gives details. In particular, the contents of the error log will give you some idea, though probably you'll need a debugger to get a usable backtrace. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. pgpBIVISfytCP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MySQL Signal 10 on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-P6
Thanks for the reply. I apologize, I should have been more clear with my first paragraph in my email. I have found several other somewhat similar problems with MySQL on FreeBSD 6.0 but with the MySQL 4.1.x series. Nothing in the Bug report you suggested bears much resemblance at first glance. I originally thought this was a too many connections for the server (physical server) problem, so I dropped the max connections to 20 and still got a signal 10. I also played with other numbers as the max connections but no matter what about once an hour a SIGBUS error would appear. I have enabled --log and --core-file on my mysql server and I am trying to determine if a specific query is causing the problem, however I highly doubt this. Hopefully when it crashes the core file will be able to shed some light on the problem at hand. Just as I was typing I had tail running on the log file and error log files and I caught a signal 10, at the time there was no query that stood out that hadn't been queried previously. If you like I could send the queries that preceded the signal 10, but I doubt they will do any good. There are 4 queries and about 25 quits, in the minute leading up to the crash. I do have a core dump file and I am attempting to gather information, however my knowledge on inspecting core dumps is limited, I am willing to host the file somewhere if you care to look at it to help determine the cause. Many thanks. Regards, -Erik Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Monday, 31 July 2006 at 11:35:04 -0400, Erik Kristensen wrote: I have an interesting issue with FreeBSD 6.0 and MySQL 5.0. Part of my problem has been discussed serveral times in the past on other mailing lists and it seems there has been fixes for older versions of MySQL. From what you say here, there's no reason to believe that your problem has been mentioned at all. The MySQL server is currently receiving a SIGNAL 10 about once an hour, which is causing many problems with the innodb databases that we have running on this server. Signal 10 is SIGBUS (bus error), an error detected by the hardware. The most frequent causes are bugs in the hardware and bugs in the software. The only way to find out what causes the problem is to investigate further. Never make the assumption that any two SIGBUS problems are related. Still, SIGBUS is interesting, because just about every such error in FreeBSD is reported as a SIGSEGV (signal 11). I am running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 and MySQL 5.0.22. In all the lists I have read regarding FreeBSD, MySQL and signal 10, it all seems to happen with version 6.0 and the 4.1.x series of MySQL. I can't confirm that at all. I've been chasing a number of very specific problems for some time, and as far as I can tell, there are very few cases where the server crashes. One case that I'm investigating is BUG#12251 (http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=12251). If any of this looks familiar to you, please let me know. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciate as this is our production server having issues. We are a small company with limited resources. A start would be the documented method to track down crashes: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/debugging-server.html gives details. In particular, the contents of the error log will give you some idea, though probably you'll need a debugger to get a usable backtrace. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there?
My calculations are off, I though the monthly periodic was relative to the system install date. Here are the new numbers: Lets say each client sends 20 bytes and their are 10^7 clients for a total of 190.7MB per month. Now... Lets say 50% (10^6.7) of those clients are set to UTC and all of them trigger on the first of the month within 5 minutes of each other (10^6 per minute). This equates to 16706 clients per second. We would need 326KB/s or 2610Kbit/s to handle this load. This is a problem, even half of that is a problem. On 7/29/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/29/06, User Freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: You might think this sounds harmless but folks have done this kind of thing in the past with other products and wreaked havoc on the Internet. You can start by referencing dlink ntp fiasco in google to get an idea of what can happen to these kinds of well meaning attempts. Let sleeping dogs lie. 'k, you lost me on how this relates to the fiasco ... I did a quick search on Google for it, and, unless I didn't find the right reference, the 'fiasco' had to do with DLink setting up their software to ping PHKs NTP Server, without getting permissions first, and, thereby, flooding him with NTP requests ... People just don't realize just how very big the Internet is. That is the problem, yes ... nobody knows how big the FreeBSD community is ... :) I have to agree with Marc on this one. The extra load required to send all of this data is not much: Lets say each client sends 20 bytes and their are 10^7 clients for a total of 190.7MB per month or 6.25MB per day . Now... Lets say 50% (10^6.7) of those clients are set to UTC and 50% of those clients (10^6.4) trigger the monthly periodic over a 5 day period (10^5.7 each day) and all of them phone home within 5 minutes of each other (10^5 per minute) for a total of 1666.67 clients per second. We would need 32.6KB/s or 260.4Kbit/s to handle this load spike... I did the calculations for 10 million clients, but I highly doubt FreeBSD has 5 million so this is a non issue. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
openssl and apache
hi there, uname -a: FreeBSD cirrus.dfi.net.au 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Jul 9 12:08:32 EST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/NEWKERNEL i3861~ i recently got ssl running with apache. i'm not quite sure how it happened, but at some point after this i could not longer ssh into the box. i went into the data centre and found that when i tried to ssh out of the machine, the error: OpenSSL Version Mismatch appeared on the screen. It was quite important to get this working, and some googling turned up the possibility that this was because there were two versions of openssl installed on the machine. i did: cd /usr/ports/security/openssl make deinstall and i could then ssh in and out of the box. however, now when i request a page using https from this machine the error: [Tue Aug 01 13:55:22 2006] [error] [client 125.62.65.184] Invalid method in request \x80g\x01\x03 shows up in my apache logs. if i try: openssl s_client -connect my.host:443 i get: 85161:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol:/usr/src/secure/lib/libssl/../../../crypto/openssl/ssl/s23_clnt.c:478: i can telnet into the host on port 443 successfully. obviously i need to upgrade openssl somehow, but i'm afraid if i try and do it using the ports then i'll break ssh login on the machine again. does anyone have any clues? cheers iain dooley ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
- Original Message - From: Born, Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Born, Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:11 PM Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Please explain? Because I like people to have an objective view when it comes to making technology decisions. Then start with yourself. You don't have an objective view. We've made bad technology work, and I've seen free software cost more than the most expensive Microsoft license. Yeah right. Maybe if you started discussing specific examples we might believe you, until then your just another parlor windbag. Too many variables are involved and anyone evangelizing a single system should be viewed with skepticism. And as I asked before, why are you pounding the drum for Microsoft since they evangelize a single system - theirs? Is this what you mean buy out of touch? by, not buy, although freudian slip there since buy is the word for this discussion. Ted -Original Message- From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:01 PM To: Born, Clinton Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: Dude, I'm not a MS lackey. I just don't trust tech fanatics. They are on par with Hezbollah. You really are out of touch, aren't you. Chad -Original Message- From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:42 PM To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? - Original Message - From: Born, Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Born, Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:39 AM Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Yawn You are exactly what I'm talking about. Oh, a person who writes a god damn book about integrating both MS solutions and FreeBSD? See http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/ You just proved to the world your talking out your ass. Ted --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
If your not an MS lacky then answer my original question - you claim that people who only believe there is one way to pound a nail are bad - then proceed to claim Microsoft NT is great - don't you see the disconnect here? You also didn't explain your rediculous claim that it retards technological growth for everyone when people are subjective. Ted - Original Message - From: Born, Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Born, Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:01 PM Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Dude, I'm not a MS lackey. I just don't trust tech fanatics. They are on par with Hezbollah. -Original Message- From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:42 PM To: Born, Clinton; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? - Original Message - From: Born, Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Born, Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 5:39 AM Subject: RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Yawn You are exactly what I'm talking about. Oh, a person who writes a god damn book about integrating both MS solutions and FreeBSD? See http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com/ You just proved to the world your talking out your ass. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
- Original Message - From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Born, Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: Please explain? Because I like people to have an objective view when it comes to making technology decisions. We've made bad technology work, and I've seen free software cost more than the most expensive Microsoft license. Too many variables are involved and anyone evangelizing a single system should be viewed with skepticism.. Is this what you mean buy out of touch? The comparison to Hezbollah. There is not one item to compare between tech fanatics and Hezbollah -- only contrast. I personally am not an Open Source (O.S.) weenie, and some folks are O.S. fanatics etc (usually you find these in the Linux fan-boy club but they probably exist everywhere) but I have yet to see a MS solution that was the best solution to a given problem. I have, plenty of times. MS is the best solution for an application program that won't run on any other platform than Windows. And there are some markets out there where there are no open-source applications for those markets at all. However it is a gigantic stretch for our friend here to claim that Windows is the best tool for the job in these situations, because such a claim gives the impression that there are competitive open source applications that are just not as good. When in reality, there are no open source competitive applications at all. In these situations, Windows isn't the best tool for the job, it's the -only- tool for the job. It is like claiming that your car is the fastest car in the world based on a race that only you entered. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
I wanted to ask if there is some sort of channel whereby he could be given active support See a need, fill a need. Since you can clearly see the person wasn't given adequate information, then go ahead and give him the information. Unless people like you and me and the rest of us ordinary users take responsibility for these responses, a lot of them will fall through the cracks since the developers have limited time to answer them. Nobody ever complained about being given too much information. Ted - Original Message - From: Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joao Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Joao Barros wrote: And on the subject, has anyone noticed this email from someone @Promise to the scsi mailing list? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2006-July/002543.html I wanted to reply about this post but I'm hesitating because I know there are more people who talk than act and I can only talk because I wouldn't know how to act here. Still... Assuming it's genuine Promise are offering to supply a driver for FreeBSD. The responder points them to the send-pr doc (unfortunately with a broken link but that is not my point.) The reply is a typical laconic freebsd reply which would be sufficient for another freebsd user. However this is an offer which could possibly be considered gold dust since it is a hardware manufacturer offering to work with FreeBSD. I wanted to ask if there is some sort of channel whereby he could be given active support so that he doesn't just go away because he thinks nobody is particularly interested. Of course maybe someone has already responded off list in which case very sorry for the noise. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamfilter
justin wrote: Hello, I `ve got a spam problem and want to run a spamfilter. There is only a problem i don`t no witch spamfilter to choose. Can anyone give me a tip of a good and simple to run spamfilter??? Ok thanks, Justin. I'm running SpamAssassin and spamass-milter. They seem to do an okay job. HTH, Micah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
On 7/31/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Born, Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Born, Clinton wrote: Please explain? Because I like people to have an objective view when it comes to making technology decisions. We've made bad technology work, and I've seen free software cost more than the most expensive Microsoft license. Too many variables are involved and anyone evangelizing a single system should be viewed with skepticism.. Is this what you mean buy out of touch? The comparison to Hezbollah. There is not one item to compare between tech fanatics and Hezbollah -- only contrast. I personally am not an Open Source (O.S.) weenie, and some folks are O.S. fanatics etc (usually you find these in the Linux fan-boy club but they probably exist everywhere) but I have yet to see a MS solution that was the best solution to a given problem. I have, plenty of times. MS is the best solution for an application program that won't run on any other platform than Windows. No that's called vendor lock-in. I make it a point to buy recommend software that will run on at least two different platforms. People who can code on multiple platforms are usually more experienced and produce better code and are more willing to port to other platforms and work with you. Here's my decision tree: Multi-platform FOSS, if none then: Multi-platform propriety, if none then: Uni-platform FOSS, if none then: Uni-platform propriety. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
switching from linux to freebsd
Hello. I'm interested in moving my server from linux to freeBSD, but have several questions: 1. What is the freebsd equivalent of lvm? I'd like to resize volumes, add/delete volumes, etc. Currently I have my linux root on LVM with ext3 as a filesystem, which I can grow/shrink when I want, if one part runs out of space. Will a shrinkfs command be added to freebsd like growfs is already? 2. Can Ufs handle crashes very well, or is a very long fsck needed like the old ext2 days? 3. is the restriction of NFS-servers only mounting on partition boundaries going to be removed in the future, if it even still exists? Thanks, Tyler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Safe card to replace for ICP Vortex GDT8514RZ ...
I have a remote server, running the above RAID controller, that, as most ppl here have seen over the past few weeks, is causing endless headaches ... Official word from Adaptec is that FreeBSD is no longer a supported platform, so, I either live with the deadlocks, or try and figure out a suitable replacement for the card ... So, can anyone recommend a card to replace this with? Its a remote server, so I'm looking for something that will be plug-n-play, same slot that the GDT is in ... I realize that I'll have to reformat the server afterwards ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IMPORTANT] Adaptec no longer supporting iir(4) driver ...
'k, I finally got ahold of someone @ adaptec, and the official word seems to be: FreeBSD 6 is not officially supported for the GDT based ICP RAID controllers. Nevertheless the inbox driver should work. Great, well, the inbox driver doesn't work with FreeBSD 6.x, and support doesn't exist to get it fixed, mainly since, as most ppl here know, the specs are closed, so even a non-Adaptec person can't do much to fix the problem(s) ... For those that haven't been following the discussion on this, the iir(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x appears to have a deadlock issue under medium to heavy load, where the 'blocked' state just continues to rise until file accesses just no longer work ... So, if you are running a server that is using the iir(4) device driver and are considering upgrading to FreeBSD 6.x and beyond, or are looking to build a new machine using a device that relies on this driver, do so at your own peril ... Please note that this deadlock issue exists on *both* the ICP Vortex cards, *and* the Intel based RAID controllers ... If anyone from Adaptec is out there and is actually interested in seeing this problem fixed, *please* let me know ... I have three servers, all three exhibiting this problem, and one of them is fully loaded with the kernel debug stuff so that I can (I think) give you almost *anything* you want in the way of information concerning the problem ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
