Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity

2007-01-21 Thread Doug Hardie


On Jan 21, 2007, at 21:59, David Schulz wrote:

hey, sure, of course i have checked the cat5 first, but it is  
clearly not the cable. id say it is as   ted has written. what i  
would like to know now is how exactly happens this "hardware  
incompatibility"?


The interface chips use a very low level "protocol" to identify the  
rates and modes being used by the other end.  Those are dependent on  
voltage thresholds which sometimes are not as accurate as one would  
like.  Components age and tolerances change which can cause the two  
ends to get out of sync with each other.  The interface  
specifications also tend to change a bit over time.  I don't have the  
exact specs for ethernet, but the same issue arose many years ago  
with RS-232 devices.  The original specification had a threshold  
voltage of around 20 volts.  For line drivers with 25-28 volt sources  
it worked great.  But, 25 volts is somewhat difficult in many  
situations and people started fudging using 12 V sources which would  
work with many of the drivers that actually used a 10 V threshold.   
Those devices would interface with some, but not all of the older  
devices.  Ethernet has undergone a number of changes from the  
original RG-8 cabling to today.

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Re: no pv entries: increase vm.pmap.shpgperproc

2007-01-21 Thread peter
> In response to "peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi,
> > My freebsd box runs the apache httpd2.0 server, postgresql8.1server,
> > Recently, I got the below info in /var/crash.
> > “Dump header from device /dev/da0s1b
> >   Architecture: i386
> >   Architecture Version: 2
> >   Dump Length: 1073127424B (1023 MB)
> >   Blocksize: 512
> >   Dumptime: Wed Jan 17 16:39:08 2007
> >   Hostname: myhost.mydomain.com
> >   Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump
> >   Version String: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Apr 25 15:07:33 CST 2006
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MYKNL
> >   Panic String: no pv entries: increase vm.pmap.shpgperproc
> >   Dump Parity: 2383301964
> >   Bounds: 49
> >   Dump Status: good”
> > I had searched in google, but I didn’t know how to do.
> 
> You _should_ be able to raise the vm.pmap.shpgperproc sysctl to prevent
> the problem -- but there doesn't seem to be any such sysctl.  I'm not sure
> what's going on here, but it seems to me that a PR is in order.

I  had ever added the line "kern.vm.pmap.shpgperproc=4096" to /boot/loader.conf 
,
but it seems to be ineffective.

> Failing that, you could set the following in your kernel config:
> options PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=250
> and rebuild/reinstall your kernel. 
>
> The default value is 200, so I expect 250 will be enough of a bump to
> fix the problem.  If it's not, raise it a little higher and try again.
> I don't know of any way to tell exactly what this value should be other
> than trial and error.  I've seen warnings that raising this value too
> high can result in an unbootable kernel, so take care to understand how
> to recover from the installation of an unbootable kernel.

How to know the default value? 
The website on the box has about 22000  visits every day, so i think the 
physical 
memory size maybe small. 
I configured httpd.conf like this:

KeepAlive Off


StartServers 8
MinSpareServers  3
MaxSpareServers  5
ServerLimit170
MaxClients 160
MaxRequestsPerChild 300

.

Thanks very much Bill

peter



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Re: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard?

2007-01-21 Thread jekillen


On Jan 21, 2007, at 9:03 PM, Andrew Fremantle wrote:


Hello,

I'm looking at building a few new general-purpose servers in the near 
future. I'd like to use Intel Core 2 Duo processors in these machines. 
I'm currently evaluating a machine with a looks-good-on-paper 
motherboard, the Intel DG965OT. However, I have come across two major 
problems with this board.


First, the board locks up several seconds after finishing it's kernel 
initialization. Sysinstall runs and displays the region/country list, 
then freezes solid a few seconds later. This does not happen if I 
select to boot without ACPI support.


Second, this board has 1 PATA and 6 SATA connectors. FreeBSD detects a 
generic PCI ATA controller, and then fails to detect the optical drive 
attached to it. This problem is not unique to FreeBSD. I understand 
the Linux folks have similar troubles with the Marvell controller. The 
kernel appears to detect four of the six SATA headers on this board.


So my questions are

1) Does anyone know how to make this board work properly with FreeBSD?

2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, onboard 
video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs?


Also, the amd64 documentation states support for Athlon64s, Opterons, 
certain Xeons, and EMT64 capable Pentium 4s, Pentium Ds, and Celerons. 
Will it not run on Core 2s or is this a shortcoming in the 
documentation? I though the Core 2s were 64-bit capable.


- Andrew


If you are willing to try AMD64 I have built one with
ASUS M2N32 WS pro. It has two PCI-e slots and
two PCI x slots. Uses new AM2 socket and DDR2
memory, is not modestly priced at over $300 for
the board alone. But there is also a model
M2N32 SLI version that does not come with the
PCI x slots and is somewhat less expensive.
You might consider, I believe you can get
AMD 64 dual core processors to use with it.
But perhaps since you already spent the money
on Intel, you are not willing to go this route.
Oh, yes, the boards have dual gigabit built in
NICs that appear to be well supported chip sets.
It also has 6 internal SATA busses and 3 external
SATA buses.
I got the M2N32 WS Pro because I wanted to use
two 15 k rpm SCSI drives along with an SATA
boot drive. The SCSI adapter I got, LSIlogic,
would only fit in PCIx slots.
I have installed FreeBSD v6.0 and have had no
problem with sysinstall what so ever. And it boots
just fine, so far.
Hope this helps
JK

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Re: Google talk with voice?

2007-01-21 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Jan 21, 2007, at 9:18 PM, Micah wrote:



Anyone know of a way to do voice chat with Google chat users? KDE's  
Kopete is supposed to support gtalk's voice chat, but I can't get  
it to work.


Thanks,
Micah


Should be jabber. See:   
for more info and how to setup kopete properly.

-Garrett
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PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard?

2007-01-21 Thread Andrew Fremantle

Hello,

I'm looking at building a few new general-purpose servers in the near 
future. I'd like to use Intel Core 2 Duo processors in these machines. 
I'm currently evaluating a machine with a looks-good-on-paper 
motherboard, the Intel DG965OT. However, I have come across two major 
problems with this board.


First, the board locks up several seconds after finishing it's kernel 
initialization. Sysinstall runs and displays the region/country list, 
then freezes solid a few seconds later. This does not happen if I select 
to boot without ACPI support.


Second, this board has 1 PATA and 6 SATA connectors. FreeBSD detects a 
generic PCI ATA controller, and then fails to detect the optical drive 
attached to it. This problem is not unique to FreeBSD. I understand the 
Linux folks have similar troubles with the Marvell controller. The 
kernel appears to detect four of the six SATA headers on this board.


So my questions are

1) Does anyone know how to make this board work properly with FreeBSD?

2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, onboard 
video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs?


Also, the amd64 documentation states support for Athlon64s, Opterons, 
certain Xeons, and EMT64 capable Pentium 4s, Pentium Ds, and Celerons. 
Will it not run on Core 2s or is this a shortcoming in the 
documentation? I though the Core 2s were 64-bit capable.


- Andrew
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Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity

2007-01-21 Thread David Schulz
hey, sure, of course i have checked the cat5 first, but it is clearly  
not the cable. id say it is as   ted has written. what i would like  
to know now is how exactly happens this "hardware incompatibility"?


On Jan 22, 2007, at 1:51 PM, bobmc wrote:


David Schulz wrote:

Hello all,

every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue,
sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet  
Connectivity.

When something is frequently erratic, suspect software.  But your
problem looks like intermittent hardware.  I have observed that the  
LAN

will be marked down if you boot without it connected. Then if you
connect the LAN and click a web bookmark, it will recover  
automatically

without human intervention.

CAT5 LAN cables with RJ45 plugs are not very  robust. And people  
tend to
handle them carelessly... stepping on them, tripping over them etc.  
They

are usually single strand copper which can break inside the insulation
with frequent flexing. The RJ45 plugs have poor strain relief such  
that
the outer insulation pulls out of the plug creating another failure  
point.


So for vexing problems like yours, I would examine the hardware very
closely.

Cheers, -BobMc-


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Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity

2007-01-21 Thread bobmc
David Schulz wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue,
> sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet Connectivity. 
When something is frequently erratic, suspect software.  But your
problem looks like intermittent hardware.  I have observed that the LAN
will be marked down if you boot without it connected. Then if you
connect the LAN and click a web bookmark, it will recover automatically
without human intervention.

CAT5 LAN cables with RJ45 plugs are not very  robust. And people tend to
handle them carelessly... stepping on them, tripping over them etc. They
are usually single strand copper which can break inside the insulation
with frequent flexing. The RJ45 plugs have poor strain relief such that
the outer insulation pulls out of the plug creating another failure point.

So for vexing problems like yours, I would examine the hardware very
closely.

Cheers, -BobMc-


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Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD

2007-01-21 Thread Frank Jahnke
>  
> Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All
> input will be very much appreciated.

Wireless mice on either PS/2 or USB ports work fine with
FreeBSD/X11/Window Managers.  I've used them for years, and would never
go back to a corded or balled mouse again.

I too live with cats, though not Maine Coons, and you really should
learn how to fix mice.  FWIW, my optical mouse (a Logitech MX700)
stopped working -- at least the scroll wheel stopped working.  So I took
it apart, and removed an unbelievable amount of hair from around the
scroll wheel.  It covered both portions of the optical train, and once
it was removed, it worked fine.  Very fine tweezers helped a lot.

Other than that, you have to clean the optical port on the bottom once
in a while, but that's it.  I use tweezers.

Rather than buy what's cheap, I'd suggest finding a quality one on a
deal or buying a used one.  I recently bought a Logitech Mediaplay (a
fine general-purpose mouse) for $15, and another lightly-used MX700 also
for $15.  Yes, I have that many computers...

Frank

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Google talk with voice?

2007-01-21 Thread Micah


Anyone know of a way to do voice chat with Google chat users? KDE's 
Kopete is supposed to support gtalk's voice chat, but I can't get it to 
work.


Thanks,
Micah
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Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity

2007-01-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Either that or replace the network card.  Or put a dumb little 4 port
hub between the card and the switch.

it's funny but sometimes the cheaper nics have autonegotiation
issues with the better quality hubs, and don't with the cheaper hubs.

The network gods like to throw us these things from time to
time to remind us the Universe has no fundamental logic

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: "David Schulz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity


> Hi,
> 
> thats harsh, because before i used a cheaper Mitsubishi, forgot the  
> Model, but before Christmas i purchased a Cisco ws-c2960-48tt-l ,  
> which i thought was not too bad for what i needed. I just cant  
> replace it easily now. Really, is that it? Im gonna have to go with  
> the cronjob / shell script option?
> 
> So sad,
> David
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 22, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> > Been there.  You need to replace your ethernet switch.  It's what
> > they call an ethernet hardware incompatability.
> >
> > Forcing the card to 10baset half or 100 base t full might fix it but
> > probably not.
> >
> > Ted
> > .
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David Schulz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:12 PM
> > Subject: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity
> >
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue,
> >> sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet
> >> Connectivity. My Machines just run some Service, and have no
> >> Keyboard / Mouse or Monitor. When the Machine goes down, eg, i am
> >> unable to ping it from another Machine on the Network, even
> >> restarting the machine using "reboot" will not fix the Problem. The
> >> only way to fix it is to login as root, and issue a "ifconfig vr0
> >> down && ifconfig vr0 up". Then a dmesg Message appears : "vr0: Using
> >> force reset command.", and after that i can successfully ping the
> >> machine again. I have had this Problem on different machines with
> >> different Network Cards, on different Ethernet Cables, and with
> >> FreeBSD Versions 5.5 until 6.1.
> >>
> >> Can anyone please help me to understand and possibly even fix this
> >> Problem?
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot,
> >> David
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Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity

2007-01-21 Thread David Schulz

Hi,

thats harsh, because before i used a cheaper Mitsubishi, forgot the  
Model, but before Christmas i purchased a Cisco ws-c2960-48tt-l ,  
which i thought was not too bad for what i needed. I just cant  
replace it easily now. Really, is that it? Im gonna have to go with  
the cronjob / shell script option?


So sad,
David



On Jan 22, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


Been there.  You need to replace your ethernet switch.  It's what
they call an ethernet hardware incompatability.

Forcing the card to 10baset half or 100 base t full might fix it but
probably not.

Ted
.
- Original Message -
From: "David Schulz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:12 PM
Subject: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity



Hello all,

every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue,
sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet
Connectivity. My Machines just run some Service, and have no
Keyboard / Mouse or Monitor. When the Machine goes down, eg, i am
unable to ping it from another Machine on the Network, even
restarting the machine using "reboot" will not fix the Problem. The
only way to fix it is to login as root, and issue a "ifconfig vr0
down && ifconfig vr0 up". Then a dmesg Message appears : "vr0: Using
force reset command.", and after that i can successfully ping the
machine again. I have had this Problem on different machines with
different Network Cards, on different Ethernet Cables, and with
FreeBSD Versions 5.5 until 6.1.

Can anyone please help me to understand and possibly even fix this
Problem?

Thanks a lot,
David
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Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity

2007-01-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Been there.  You need to replace your ethernet switch.  It's what
they call an ethernet hardware incompatability.

Forcing the card to 10baset half or 100 base t full might fix it but
probably not.

Ted
.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Schulz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:12 PM
Subject: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity


> Hello all,
>
> every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue,
> sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet
> Connectivity. My Machines just run some Service, and have no
> Keyboard / Mouse or Monitor. When the Machine goes down, eg, i am
> unable to ping it from another Machine on the Network, even
> restarting the machine using "reboot" will not fix the Problem. The
> only way to fix it is to login as root, and issue a "ifconfig vr0
> down && ifconfig vr0 up". Then a dmesg Message appears : "vr0: Using
> force reset command.", and after that i can successfully ping the
> machine again. I have had this Problem on different machines with
> different Network Cards, on different Ethernet Cables, and with
> FreeBSD Versions 5.5 until 6.1.
>
> Can anyone please help me to understand and possibly even fix this
> Problem?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> David
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Re: Enquiry on SAS in FreeBSD

2007-01-21 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On January 22, 2007 11:53:58 AM +0800 "Ahmad Faisal M. Nor" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




NOTE: I'm not subscribe to the FreeBSD.org mailing list, please CC to me
as well

We're ordering Dell Poweredge 2950 Server which is come with SAS (Serial
Attach SCSI). Most newly manufacture branded server comes with SAS
nowadays, no more SCSI. According to Dell Technical Support, SAS is a
new technology of SCSI but different architecture. They don't have any
idea whether it works on FreeBSD or not. I'm worried if it's not work on
FreeBSD and we cannot return the hardware.

Does anyone here have any idea on these SAS thing ?


SAS == Serial Attached *SCSI*

I'm running a 1950 with two 73GB SAS drives, RAID 1, and not having any 
problems.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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The University of Texas at Dallas
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Enquiry on SAS in FreeBSD

2007-01-21 Thread Ahmad Faisal M. Nor

NOTE: I'm not subscribe to the FreeBSD.org mailing list, please CC to me as well

We're ordering Dell Poweredge 2950 Server which is come with SAS (Serial
Attach SCSI). Most newly manufacture branded server comes with SAS nowadays,
no more SCSI. According to Dell Technical Support, SAS is a new technology of
SCSI but different architecture. They don't have any idea whether it works on
FreeBSD or not. I'm worried if it's not work on FreeBSD and we cannot return
the hardware. 

Does anyone here have any idea on these SAS thing ?  


Thanks.

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Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity

2007-01-21 Thread David Schulz
since the machines in question are behind a nat router with firewall,  
they do not have extra firewall enabled.


On Jan 22, 2007, at 11:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What about firewall and especially ipfw MAC rules?
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Re: PCBSD 6.2 -- How to Install Second CD?

2007-01-21 Thread bobmc
Benjamin Sher wrote:
> Dear Bob:
>
> I rebooted PCBSD with the first Install CD and chose Upgrade. It went ahead 
> and repaired and upgraded my system but at the end of the road I did not see 
> any mention of installing the second CD. I also didn't see it at the end of 
> my original install. What am I doing wrong, please. 
>
> Are all of the applications on the second CD available from PBI or from the 
> packages on FreeBSD?
>
> Hope you can help.
> Thank you.
> Benjamin
>
>   
Perhaps you are not certain of the CD contents. CD1 is for installing
the kernel and shells.  CD2 has applications and utilities called
"ports".  ( Correct me if I am not exactly right!) Remove CD1 after
install and then reboot. Next run sysinstall. Select "Configure -- Do
post-install configuration.. ". Then choose "Packages -- install
pre-packaged". Insert CD2 before you press enter on this menu item.

Please direct your queries directly to the list so that you get better
quality answers.

Good Luck!-BobMc-



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Help me pick a replacement graphics card?

2007-01-21 Thread Kirk Strauser
My aging GeForce MX 400 is dying and I want to replace it with something a bit 
more modern.  My desktop is running FreeBSD 6.2 on a Asus A7V (Via chipset) 
motherboard with a 1.4GHz Athlon.  This is more of a hardward question than 
software, although pointers to any FreeBSD-specific driver gotchas would be 
appreciated.

Basically, I want to run a few OpenGL apps (particular the "Second Life" 
client, which works perfectly under Linux emulation), so I pretty much have 
to use the "nvidia" driver and not the open "NV" driver.  The old card's 
performance was fine for my purposes, so almost much anything at all newer 
should be OK.  Therefore, I don't want to spend a lot of money on this.  
However, I don't want to buy a card so old that NVidia will drop support for 
it in the next driver upgrade, as they did with this current card.

My motherboard has an AGP 4x slot that the "nvidia" driver wants to run in 2x 
mode because it doesn't like the Via chipset.  Now, it seems like there are 
precious few AGP 4x cards available these days; most look like 8x.  Are those 
backward compatible all the way to 2x?  Google returns plenty of 
authoritative-sounding hits on both sides.

Is there anything else I should be looking for?  Any specific models you might 
recommend?
-- 
Kirk Strauser


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Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity

2007-01-21 Thread applecom

What about firewall and especially ipfw MAC rules?
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Re: ghostscript device 'gdi'

2007-01-21 Thread applecom

John Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Sunday 21 January 2007 20:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My experience with ghoscscript device 'gdi' is that even patched it
generates a correct data only for 600 dpi resolution. With -r300' option
printer makes pages with large horizontal black and grey stripes.
Does somebody use Samsung laser printer and ghostscript device 'gdi' for
printing to it?


I have a Lexmark E210, which is basically a rebranded Samsung ML-1210. I
print to it using Cups and the foomatic scripts/filters and haven't had  
any

problems. I know it uses gs with the gdi device on the back end. I just
printed a test page at 300 dpi and it looks fine.


I have Samsung ML-1210 exactly, foomatic-filters-3.0.2_4,
ghostscript-gnu-7.07_15.
Try to print alphabet.ps from ghostscript examples with 300 dpi. For
example:
'foomatic-rip --ppd  -o Resolution=300x300dpi -o
PageSize=A4 /usr/local/share/ghostscript/7.07/examples/alphabet.ps >
/dev/ulpt0'.
Is page printed well? For me isn't, only ugly stripes.
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Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity

2007-01-21 Thread Richard Lynch
Sounds like flaky/cheap network card to me...
[But I'm no expert]

Perhaps, however, just doing a cron job every day to do the ifconfig
down/up would be a simple work-around.

On Sun, January 21, 2007 9:12 pm, David Schulz wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue,
> sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet
> Connectivity. My Machines just run some Service, and have no
> Keyboard / Mouse or Monitor. When the Machine goes down, eg, i am
> unable to ping it from another Machine on the Network, even
> restarting the machine using "reboot" will not fix the Problem. The
> only way to fix it is to login as root, and issue a "ifconfig vr0
> down && ifconfig vr0 up". Then a dmesg Message appears : "vr0: Using
> force reset command.", and after that i can successfully ping the
> machine again. I have had this Problem on different machines with
> different Network Cards, on different Ethernet Cables, and with
> FreeBSD Versions 5.5 until 6.1.
>
> Can anyone please help me to understand and possibly even fix this
> Problem?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> David
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Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity

2007-01-21 Thread David Schulz

Hey,

sure, i can do a script which does the up-down when it cant ping the  
router or something, but to be honest i think that is not a  
production solution. cheap nic..maybe, some of the nics in question  
where onboard ones, which are not the best ones out there, but  
others, such as the 3COM 3c90b5 Fast Etherlink XL PCI, is that also a  
shitty one? I also have a tried a simple D-LINK and a Realtek one. It  
seems that under a certain condition FreeBSD just shuts down its  
Networking, and if thats true i wonder if that can be done remotely,  
that would not be cool.


David


On Jan 22, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Richard Lynch wrote:


Sounds like flaky/cheap network card to me...
[But I'm no expert]

Perhaps, however, just doing a cron job every day to do the ifconfig
down/up would be a simple work-around.

On Sun, January 21, 2007 9:12 pm, David Schulz wrote:

Hello all,

every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue,
sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet
Connectivity. My Machines just run some Service, and have no
Keyboard / Mouse or Monitor. When the Machine goes down, eg, i am
unable to ping it from another Machine on the Network, even
restarting the machine using "reboot" will not fix the Problem. The
only way to fix it is to login as root, and issue a "ifconfig vr0
down && ifconfig vr0 up". Then a dmesg Message appears : "vr0: Using
force reset command.", and after that i can successfully ping the
machine again. I have had this Problem on different machines with
different Network Cards, on different Ethernet Cables, and with
FreeBSD Versions 5.5 until 6.1.

Can anyone please help me to understand and possibly even fix this
Problem?

Thanks a lot,
David
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Loosing Ethernet Connectivity

2007-01-21 Thread David Schulz

Hello all,

every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue,  
sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet  
Connectivity. My Machines just run some Service, and have no  
Keyboard / Mouse or Monitor. When the Machine goes down, eg, i am  
unable to ping it from another Machine on the Network, even  
restarting the machine using "reboot" will not fix the Problem. The  
only way to fix it is to login as root, and issue a "ifconfig vr0  
down && ifconfig vr0 up". Then a dmesg Message appears : "vr0: Using  
force reset command.", and after that i can successfully ping the  
machine again. I have had this Problem on different machines with  
different Network Cards, on different Ethernet Cables, and with  
FreeBSD Versions 5.5 until 6.1.


Can anyone please help me to understand and possibly even fix this  
Problem?


Thanks a lot,
David
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Re: Single command that outputs "system status"?

2007-01-21 Thread J65nko

On 1/21/07, Kelly Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It's easy to write a shell script that dumps/mails the output of
several "status" commands (eg, "df -k", "crontab -l", "ps -aux -www",
"top -n -d 1 infinity", "w -d", "mailq -v", "netstat -a", "vmstat",
etc) every hour, but I'm wondering if I'm re-inventing the wheel.

Is there a FreeBSD command that reports "system status", either an
existing shell script that does the above, or something that talks to
the kernel at a lower level and reports all relevant values?

I know about /etc/periodic/*/*status*, but this seems both excessive
in places (I don't really need rejected email info, for example) and
incomplete (I don't think it gives me all the information the commands
above do).

I also know about mrtg, but that seems more geared toward graphing
and storing historical information and seems limited as well.

I realize this question is ambiguous. I guess what I'm really asking
is: is there a FreeBSD tool *designed* to report system status on a
regular basis, that I could use as the basis of an hourly reporting
system, even if I had to add/tweak some stuff myself.



Although may be not exactly what you want
http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=31072
It could be a start ;)
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PCBSD 6.2 -- How to Install Second CD?

2007-01-21 Thread Benjamin Sher
Dear friends:

Just installed the first CD of PCBSD 6.2. I also downloaded the second CD. How 
do I install it, please?

Thank you.

Benjamin
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Re: Manufacturer documented wireless NIC's

2007-01-21 Thread bobmc
Patrick Bowen wrote:
> Could anyone tell me who the manufacturers are that support their
> chips with documentation available to FreeBSD for the writing of
> drivers, please. 
I have two computers with VIA 6102 for ethernet. One is a EPIA Mini-itx
and the
CD included has a FreeBSD driver.  One might expect  the VIA driver to be
better than the free offering from an engineering student but I can't
tell that
from looking at the code while not knowing the hardware.  You can get specs
from VIA by filling out a form and telling a good story.  But it seems
VIA thinks they are doing a favor.

The point of this little tale is to question what "support" means.  It
looks like you
can't ship the VIA driver with BSD because of restrictions in the
source.  I would
only call it support if the ViA product pages included BSD along with
Windows and
Linux already listed as compatible OSes.  And if they contributed
quality drivers
to the 'BSD distributions.  It would be beneficial for VIA and BSD.

Cheers,  -BobMc-


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Re: ghostscript device 'gdi'

2007-01-21 Thread John Nielsen
On Sunday 21 January 2007 20:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My experience with ghoscscript device 'gdi' is that even patched it
> generates a correct data only for 600 dpi resolution. With -r300' option
> printer makes pages with large horizontal black and grey stripes.
> Does somebody use Samsung laser printer and ghostscript device 'gdi' for
> printing to it?

I have a Lexmark E210, which is basically a rebranded Samsung ML-1210. I 
print to it using Cups and the foomatic scripts/filters and haven't had any 
problems. I know it uses gs with the gdi device on the back end. I just 
printed a test page at 300 dpi and it looks fine.

JN
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Re: ATAPI CDROM Problem

2007-01-21 Thread Serdar Ozler
It turned out that DP965LT uses Marvell 88SE6101 controller for PATA, not a 
JMicron one. So, that bug does not apply. Is there a workaround I could use for 
that one?

Thanks,
Serdar

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Subject: Re: ATAPI CDROM Problem


Yes, the motherboard is Intel DP965LT (which uses P965) with a Core 2 Duo 
processor.

Thanks,
Serdar

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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 4:55:20 PM
Subject: Re: ATAPI CDROM Problem


> I am trying to install FreeBSD 6.2 on my new machine and have a problem. I 
> boot using 6.2-disc1, but when I try to choose CD/DVD as installation media, 
> the installer says: "No CD/DVD drives found".

Is this by chance a newer Core 2 Duo system with a motherboard with an
Intel p965 chipset? If so, I think this is a known bug. I know at
least one other person who was unable to install FreeBSD 6.2 on a p965
board. The installer does not see the PATA hdd or the ATAPI CD device
on the JMicron controller.

I'm not sure if it's related, but it sounds similar to this PR I submitted here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=103602

Others might be able to offer workarounds for getting the installer to
work (since my DVD drive works for normal things, just not ATAPICAM).

Josh
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Harddisk seems to be gone

2007-01-21 Thread Matthias Gamsjäger

HI,

I am a user of freebsd for couple of year now and had recently made a fresh
install with 6.2. Everything worked as it always did but as i booted the
system today it seems that the kernel couldnt find my harddisk.

Strange thing is:
- I get the bootloader (dual boot with windows)
- windows works just fine
- I can access all my files on the hd through the bootloader
- the kernel boots of the harddisk and finds the (s)ata-controllers
- it finds the cdrom attachet to the ata0
- it finds my sata disk

but my first pata disk seems to be gone. The bootscript ends because there
is no ad0 (dev isnt created so cant do manualy)


I tried to boot  2 live-cdroms (freesbie and frenzy) with the same result.

System:
Nforce 4 motherboard
AMD X2 4600+
1GB ram
GF 7900tgo
PATA Maxtor hd (which is gone)
SATA WD (works fine)

Anyone got any idea whay might cause this?

Thx Matthias
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Re: Manufacturer documented wireless NIC's

2007-01-21 Thread Jason Morgan
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 07:06:16PM -0600, Patrick Bowen wrote:
> I'm looking to replace the Realtek rtl8185 mini-PCI wireless NIC in my 
> laptop, and I was wondering about what to replace it with.
> 
> Could anyone tell me who the manufacturers are that support their chips 
> with documentation available to FreeBSD for the writing of drivers, 
> please. I believe that Ralink and Atmel are in that category, according 
> to the googling I've been able to do.
> 
> I'd like to support those manufacturers that support FreeBSD.
> 
> Thanks in Advance,
> Patrick

Check out:

# man ath_hal

I've been pretty happy with *built-in* ath(4)/ath_hal(4) NICs. I have
no experience with PCMCIA (or whatever they are called) versions.

Cheers,

Jason
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Manufacturer documented wireless NIC's

2007-01-21 Thread Patrick Bowen
I'm looking to replace the Realtek rtl8185 mini-PCI wireless NIC in my 
laptop, and I was wondering about what to replace it with.


Could anyone tell me who the manufacturers are that support their chips 
with documentation available to FreeBSD for the writing of drivers, 
please. I believe that Ralink and Atmel are in that category, according 
to the googling I've been able to do.


I'd like to support those manufacturers that support FreeBSD.

Thanks in Advance,
Patrick
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ghostscript device 'gdi'

2007-01-21 Thread applecom
My experience with ghoscscript device 'gdi' is that even patched it  
generates a correct data only for 600 dpi resolution. With -r300' option  
printer makes pages with large horizontal black and grey stripes.
Does somebody use Samsung laser printer and ghostscript device 'gdi' for  
printing to it?

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Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder

2007-01-21 Thread ajm
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:27:10AM +0100, Tore Lund wrote:
> Andrew Gould wrote:
> > [snip]
> 

this is from a previous message in the thread:
>attempt:  mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310

try as root or su to root

# mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310


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Re: newbie documentation (was: Re: Contributing to FreeBSD documentation (was: Re: no ath0 on new system with good card))

2007-01-21 Thread Doug Barton
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Steve Franks wrote:
> I have another section to add to my previous post:
> 
> At some point in your dealings, you may introduce a typo into a
> critical startup file,  such as rc.conf, loader.conf, fstab, or
> similar, and reach the following upon reboot:
> 
> ""
> "Press enter for /bin/sh:"
> 
> To recover:

While it's always nice when someone takes an interest in improving our
documentation, what you have below is missing some key ingredients.

> 0. press enter
> 1. cd /etc
> 2. cat fstab (if you don't know the partitions & disks to mount already)

It's very possible that cat won't be in your path when you do this, so
you might have to say /bin/cat. Similarly throughout the rest of your
post.

More importantly, it's crucial to run at least 'fsck -p' before trying
to mount anything. If the only things you'll be mounting are in fstab
already, that's all you have to type. If you need to mount something
that isn't in fstab, you'll have to specify it by device, such as
'fsck -p /dev/ad2s1e'. If the prune isn't enough, then you will have
to do 'fsck -y /dev/' for anything that didn't come up clean.

> 3. mount /dev/adXs1Y /usr (gives you the edit command) (find X and Y
> in your fstab file)
> 4. mount /dev/adXs1Z / (gives you write acess to /etc) (find X and Z
> in your fstab)

First, if the slices you're mounting are in your fstab, you don't have
to specify the device name, just 'mount /' is enough. Second, you
should always mount the / partition read/write before you try to mount
anything else.

Assuming that all your slices came up clean after fsck, it is probably
simpler to do 'mount -a' (or 'mount -a -t nonfs' if you have NFS
mounts in your fstab without the noauto flag) than to type them all
out by hand.

> 5. edit blah ( i.e. rc.conf) to fix the typo
> 6. init 6

You're much better off to just type 'exit' when you're done fixing
stuff. That will take you out of the subshell, and back into the
normal rc startup process.


Hope this helps,

Doug

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Re: general question re: performance

2007-01-21 Thread Glenn Becker


Patrick -


You need "direct rendering" to be enabled from Xorg.
Check it with glxinfo
$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes <=== must be yes

What is your graphics card ?


It's an ATI Radeon Mobility with 16mb video memory. I got Stellarium to 
behave based on a previous post. Thanks.



(stellarium is very nice!)


It IS. :^)

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rsync issues

2007-01-21 Thread Peter Pluta
I have a win2k3 server running as my rsync server. I also have a freebsd 
web server being the rsync client. A shell script runs every night at 
5am (it's below).


Shell script:

#!/bin/sh
. `dirname $0`/settings.inc
destination=**.***.***.***::backup
if [ "$TERM" ]; then verbose=-v; fi
rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/etc/   $destination
rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/lib/sasl2/ $destination
rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /var/cron/$destination
rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /root/$destination
rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /etc/ $destination
rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after --exclude httpd-*.log $wwwDir/ 
$destination


After it runs for 5 minutes it throws this:
rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 16385 bytes [sender]: Broken 
pipe (32)

rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54)
rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(613) 
[sender=2.6.9]


Dmesg on the box only shows this:
em0: promiscuous mode enabled
em0: promiscuous mode disabled

But that is probably pretty old.

What can the problem be? backups are really important to me and they 
don't currently work as the transfer times out after the first few files.


Anyone got an idea? Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly 
appreciated.


Thanks,
Peter
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Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive

2007-01-21 Thread Robert Huff
Garrett Cooper writes:

>   One good reason I can think of is to partition (not the tech
>  definition but the traditional definition, "to divide")
>  filesystems such that if one person fills up "/", it won't cause
>  a program that needs to write to "/var" or "/tmp" problems, which
>  in the case of "/var" can bring down entire systems and
>  infrastructures (happened before where I was working as IT when a
>  CUPS server ran out of space on /var).
>   Other than that.. not really sure. Maybe some of the older
>  guard on the list know why.

N) Dump - the preferred beckup method - works at the partition
level.  Sure, you can flag files and directories  "nodump" using
chflags ... but do you really want to manage that given modern
disk sizes?


Robert Huff
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Re: freebsd-update

2007-01-21 Thread Colin Percival
eoghan wrote:
> Hi
> I am trying to run the freebsd-update, so as root I do:
> /usr/local/sbin/freebsd-update fetch
> And I get:
> Fetching public key...
> fetch: http://update.daemonology.net/amd64/6.1/pub.key: Not Found

Updates aren't being built for amd64 for the version of FreeBSD Update
in the ports tree.  If you upgrade to FreeBSD 6.2, you can use the
version of FreeBSD Update which it contains (for which amd64 updates
are being built).

Colin Percival
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fxtv in full screen mode problem solved

2007-01-21 Thread Alexander Pohoyda
This mail is not a question, but a solution to the problem that fxtv
application does not use the whole visible screen in full screen mode.

The problem is that in full screen mode fxtv switches to the closest
to 768x576 video mode, which is normally 800x600.  Thus, all we have
to do is to create the requested video mode in the X11 configuration
file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/XF86Config):

Section "Monitor"
...
Modeline "768x576" 35.71 768 800 928 960 576 587 593 605
...
EndSection

ATTENTION:  Use this modeline at your own risk.

Tested to work in Xorg 6.8.2 on FreeBSD 5.4

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Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder

2007-01-21 Thread Tore Lund
Andrew Gould wrote:
> [snip]

Honestly, Andrew.  Please try to use a style where on or more >
indicates quoting level.  It is 100% foggy who wrote what in the parent
message of this post.  TIA.
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Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder

2007-01-21 Thread Andrew Gould
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Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:26:03 PM
Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder

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Andrew Gould wrote:
>
> The MacMini mounts the drive as soon as it sees it, and deletes the device as 
> soon as I unmount it; so I can't test it that way.  When I try to mount it 
> while 
> it's mounted, I get:
> 
>  mount_msdos /dev/disk1s1: resource busy
>
> When I "get_info" on the drive, it reports a DOS_16 partition with a 
> MS_DOS_12 file system.

I didn't mean to mount the drive, just to see what the mount options
were (that can be found via strictly the "mount" command). However, the
"get_info" portion that you provided gave me the information that mount
could have provided, most likely.

> I successfully mounted a DOS floppy on my FreeBSD system to ensure that 
> mount_msdos was working properly.

Ok. Do you have MSDOSFS_LARGE compiled in the kernel?

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Adding MSDOSFS_LARGE to the kernel didn't help.

I mounted the voice recorder successfully on Suse Enterprise Desktop 10.  
Upon mounting, however, the following 10 lines similar to the one below (only 
the number is changed) are 
added to dmesg:

 Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 255884

This did not prevent Suse from mounting and reading the flash drive.

I don't feel comfortable using FreeBSD or Linux to reformat the device because 
when I have the drive do the reformatting, it also creates several files.

Andrew



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Re: cant load OpenGL

2007-01-21 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 1/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This may help:

The emphasis is on my vidcard, it's an ATI Radeon 9600. Last official ATI
video card support for FreeBSD was the 9400 series drivers. I've heard about
some reverse engineered drivers from Linux.
Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
 > AFAIK, you get that with Xorg 7.x.

6.2-RELEASE uses Xorg 7.1 no? I'm pretty sure I have something not installed
or not configured. What is it? Should I post my xorgconfig file?


"pkg_info -Ex xorg" will show you versions of xorg
apps installed. At the moment you probably have
6.9. Xorg 7.2 will be committed to the ports tree
any time soon.
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Looking to upgrade my hardware and run 6.2-RELEASE

2007-01-21 Thread Glenn Sieb
Since I tend to build my own boxes, I'd like to make sure my choice of
CPU/MB is good fro FBSD before I buy :-)

I'm looking at an AMD X2 64 5400 and an Abit AN9 32X.

The AN9 has:

NVIDIA nForce SPP 190/nForce 590 SLI MCP
Dual NV Gigabit LAN
6x SATA 3gb/s ports with RAID 0/1/0+1/5 JBOD support
(plus 2x SATA ports non-RAID)

I know that NVIDIA chipsets (at least used to) require separate
downloads of the chipset drivers. Is this still the case?

I've been using Abit MBs for years now, but I'm not necessarily tied to
them, if there are better suggestions from the list.

So anywho.. I'd appreciate any advice the list can provide. I'm a huge
fan of FBSD, and have been using it consistently since 2000 now. :)

Thanks in advance, everyone!

Best,
--Glenn
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Re: cant load OpenGL

2007-01-21 Thread deeptech71

This may help:

The emphasis is on my vidcard, it's an ATI Radeon 9600. Last official ATI 
video card support for FreeBSD was the 9400 series drivers. I've heard about 
some reverse engineered drivers from Linux.

Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
> AFAIK, you get that with Xorg 7.x.

6.2-RELEASE uses Xorg 7.1 no? I'm pretty sure I have something not installed 
or not configured. What is it? Should I post my xorgconfig file?

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Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive

2007-01-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 21/01/07, Garrett Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Jeff Mohler wrote:



> On 1/21/07, Christian Baer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



>> problem is that I can't allocate another partition

One good reason I can think of is to partition (not the tech definition
but the traditional definition, "to divide") filesystems such that if
one person fills up "/", it won't cause a program that needs to write to
"/var" or "/tmp" problems, which in the case of "/var" can bring down
entire systems and infrastructures (happened before where I was working
as IT when a CUPS server ran out of space on /var).


Run-away programs certainly are a reason.

Also (and more so with 500G+ drives) only root
must fsck before the system is brought up, so
you can get the system to a (somewhat) useable
state more quickly than if you had to fsck the
whole lot at one go.

On systems that have myriads of arbitrarily
sized files which grow and shrink (larger MUDs
are subject to this, I know, probably many other
games with local user files as well) you can defrag
with a simple tar jcf, rm -r, tar jxf.

Enforcement of certain security rules (noexec,
nosuid) is simpler and easier when the directories
are seperated onto their own filesystems.

NFS is more straightforward as well.

Hard drives rarely fail catastrophically, and moving
the affected information may be eased (or at
least I have found it so) by careful partitioning.

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Re: Rebuilding kernel / world on another disk

2007-01-21 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Garrett Cooper wrote:
> Ok, I kind of worked myself into a corner by only bringing a USB
> keyboard and accidentally making logins impossible via the network (bad
> firewall setup with IPFilter).
> 
> Basically I have a disk with FreeBSD 7-CURRENT on it and I have a
> working machine with FreeBSD 6.2 on it, and I need to build a kernel for
> the FreeBSD 7-CURRENT machine so I can get it back up and running with
> USB keyboard support and disable IPFilter.
> 
> -Is there a means to properly mount psuedofilesystems (/dev is giving me
> problems since it isn't mounted), so I can run chroot and ( build /
> install ) a new ( kernel / system ) with little problem?
> 
> -Or can I specify some extra variables to make in the ( build / install
> ) process to maybe get it to work outside of a chroot?
> 
> Thanks,
> -Garrett

Figured out another way around this (modified firewall rules in 6.2
box), so an answer isn't critical anymore. However, knowing it would be
nice.

Thanks,
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Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive

2007-01-21 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Christian Baer wrote:
> Hi folkes!
> 
> Is there any way to do this with FreeBSD?
> 
> Background:
> 
> I have to admit, that I have never actually done or even tried this with
> any OS whatsoever. I am running a two drive system with two mirrors on
> it. Because I wanted a lot of room for /usr while /usr/home ist mounted
> on a different partition, the second drive is filled with the two
> mirror partitions, /usr and a swap partition. Everything else is mounted
> on the first drive. That being: /, /temp, /var, /usr/obj and the second
> swap partition. Together with the two mirrors this means seven (in
> words: 7) partitions. The table looks like this:
> 
> Filesystem  SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/da0a   501M 72M389M16%/
> devfs   1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
> /dev/da0d   1.9G102K1.8G 0%/tmp
> /dev/da1f21G2.9G 17G15%/usr
> /dev/da0h   6.8G742M5.5G12%/usr/obj
> /dev/da0e   4.8G 71M4.4G 2%/var
> /dev/mirror/sec1.eli9.8G7.5M9.0G 0%/usr/home
> /dev/mirror/sec0.eli 34G 21M 32G 0%/usr/home/christian
> 
> What really sounds (and probably is) pathetic is that I have nearly 6
> gigs of 'leftover' space on da0. Increasing the size of the mounted
> partitions isn't really useful anymore (apart from reducing the free
> space) as I for example probably won't be needing 2GB for /temp or more
> than 5GB for /var - those are the sizes I have allocated now. Making /
> any bigger than the current 512MB wouldn't bring any advances either.
> 
> Increasing the size of the mirrors isn't an option because that would be
> schrinking /usr. Finding a new mount point wouldn't be a problem. I was
> thinking something along the lines of /usr/ports. /usr/src was an idea
> at first but since I want to keep that on a different physical drive
> than /usr/obj, the idea doesn't seem that bright anymore.
> 
> But the
> problem is that I can't allocate another partition, not that I ran out
> of ideas for mount points. :-) On other machines with IDE-drives I had
> one slice with partitions inside and never ran into this limitation
> before. Is there any way to do something like that on SCSI-drives? We
> are talking about SPARC64 here.
> 
> Regards
> Chris

Why create so many partitions? You can use slices to your benefit and
you wouldn't use up your allocatable partitions on the disk's MBR.

Example:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ df -h | grep ad0
/dev/ad0s1a 739M 40M639M 6%/
/dev/ad0s2d  62G 56G1.1G98%/store/ad0
/dev/ad0s1d 1.9G1.1M1.8G 0%/tmp
/dev/ad0s1e 3.9G3.2G377M90%/usr
/dev/ad0s1f 1.9G143M1.6G 8%/var

Note that all that I used was 1 partition and to supplement that I used
5 slices.

The only thing given my example that I suggest is that you make /usr
large than what I made it; the size I made it's really too small for the
/usr slice.. Arg.

Cheers,
- -Garrett
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Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive

2007-01-21 Thread Ivan Voras
Jeff Mohler wrote:

> If there is a fundamental reason why we still partition things like we
> only have 10, 20, or 40Mb RLL. or slightly larger ESDI drives from
> back in the day..im willing to learn.

1. if you only have one file system and something corrupts it, it's all
gone. Some people even use the root file system read only so writes
can't compromise it.
2. some applications perform better with certain parameters, such as
block size and inode density
3. if you're going to encrypt your data, you might want to encrypt only
your /home filesystem and gain on performance, since system files are
public and easily recoverable
4. some security flags applicable on file systems, like nosuid, nosymfollow
5. swap partition
6. the possibility of mixing RAID modes

I'm sure there are more...




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Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive

2007-01-21 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Jeff Mohler wrote:
> Ive never understood why we still partition drives so much..its one
> spindle..sure, a hige filesystem might cause an edge performance
> issue..but..its one spindle.
> 
> / works.
> 
> ?
> 
> If there is a fundamental reason why we still partition things like we
> only have 10, 20, or 40Mb RLL. or slightly larger ESDI drives from
> back in the day..im willing to learn.
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/21/07, Christian Baer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi folkes!
>>
>> Is there any way to do this with FreeBSD?
>>
>> Background:
>>
>> I have to admit, that I have never actually done or even tried this with
>> any OS whatsoever. I am running a two drive system with two mirrors on
>> it. Because I wanted a lot of room for /usr while /usr/home ist mounted
>> on a different partition, the second drive is filled with the two
>> mirror partitions, /usr and a swap partition. Everything else is mounted
>> on the first drive. That being: /, /temp, /var, /usr/obj and the second
>> swap partition. Together with the two mirrors this means seven (in
>> words: 7) partitions. The table looks like this:
>>
>> Filesystem  SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
>> /dev/da0a   501M 72M389M16%/
>> devfs   1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
>> /dev/da0d   1.9G102K1.8G 0%/tmp
>> /dev/da1f21G2.9G 17G15%/usr
>> /dev/da0h   6.8G742M5.5G12%/usr/obj
>> /dev/da0e   4.8G 71M4.4G 2%/var
>> /dev/mirror/sec1.eli9.8G7.5M9.0G 0%/usr/home
>> /dev/mirror/sec0.eli 34G 21M 32G 0%   
>> /usr/home/christian
>>
>> What really sounds (and probably is) pathetic is that I have nearly 6
>> gigs of 'leftover' space on da0. Increasing the size of the mounted
>> partitions isn't really useful anymore (apart from reducing the free
>> space) as I for example probably won't be needing 2GB for /temp or more
>> than 5GB for /var - those are the sizes I have allocated now. Making /
>> any bigger than the current 512MB wouldn't bring any advances either.
>>
>> Increasing the size of the mirrors isn't an option because that would be
>> schrinking /usr. Finding a new mount point wouldn't be a problem. I was
>> thinking something along the lines of /usr/ports. /usr/src was an idea
>> at first but since I want to keep that on a different physical drive
>> than /usr/obj, the idea doesn't seem that bright anymore.
>>
>> But the
>> problem is that I can't allocate another partition, not that I ran out
>> of ideas for mount points. :-) On other machines with IDE-drives I had
>> one slice with partitions inside and never ran into this limitation
>> before. Is there any way to do something like that on SCSI-drives? We
>> are talking about SPARC64 here.
>>
>> Regards
>> Chris

One good reason I can think of is to partition (not the tech definition
but the traditional definition, "to divide") filesystems such that if
one person fills up "/", it won't cause a program that needs to write to
"/var" or "/tmp" problems, which in the case of "/var" can bring down
entire systems and infrastructures (happened before where I was working
as IT when a CUPS server ran out of space on /var).
Other than that.. not really sure. Maybe some of the older guard on the
list know why.
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Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder

2007-01-21 Thread Andrew Gould
- Original Message 
From: Garrett Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:26:03 PM
Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder

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Andrew Gould wrote:
>
> The MacMini mounts the drive as soon as it sees it, and deletes the device as 
> soon as I unmount it; so I can't test it that way.  When I try to mount it 
> while 
> it's mounted, I get:
> 
>  mount_msdos /dev/disk1s1: resource busy
>
> When I "get_info" on the drive, it reports a DOS_16 partition with a 
> MS_DOS_12 file system.

I didn't mean to mount the drive, just to see what the mount options
were (that can be found via strictly the "mount" command). However, the
"get_info" portion that you provided gave me the information that mount
could have provided, most likely.

> I successfully mounted a DOS floppy on my FreeBSD system to ensure that 
> mount_msdos was working properly.

Ok. Do you have MSDOSFS_LARGE compiled in the kernel?

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I do not have MSDOSFS_LARGE compiled in the kernel.  I'm recompiling now.

Thanks,

Andrew




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Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder

2007-01-21 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Andrew Gould wrote:
>
> The MacMini mounts the drive as soon as it sees it, and deletes the device as 
> soon as I unmount it; so I can't test it that way.  When I try to mount it 
> while 
> it's mounted, I get:
> 
>  mount_msdos /dev/disk1s1: resource busy
>
> When I "get_info" on the drive, it reports a DOS_16 partition with a 
> MS_DOS_12 file system.

I didn't mean to mount the drive, just to see what the mount options
were (that can be found via strictly the "mount" command). However, the
"get_info" portion that you provided gave me the information that mount
could have provided, most likely.

> I successfully mounted a DOS floppy on my FreeBSD system to ensure that 
> mount_msdos was working properly.

Ok. Do you have MSDOSFS_LARGE compiled in the kernel?

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Re: general question re: performance

2007-01-21 Thread Patrick Lamaizière
Glenn Becker :

> I'm running 6.2 on an old but not ancient Dell laptop, PIII 1000MHz,
> which now has seven operating systems on it. I have noticed recently that
> the graphics-heavy planetarium program Stellarium -- which runs great on
> my Debian GNU/Linux system -- barely creaks along on FreeBSD and is
> basically unusable.

You need "direct rendering" to be enabled from Xorg.
Check it with glxinfo
$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes <=== must be yes

What is your graphics card ?

> Is it generally accepted that a custom kernel with all the fat
> trimmed will help?

No.
(stellarium is very nice!)
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Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive

2007-01-21 Thread Jeff Mohler

Ive never understood why we still partition drives so much..its one
spindle..sure, a hige filesystem might cause an edge performance
issue..but..its one spindle.

/ works.

?

If there is a fundamental reason why we still partition things like we
only have 10, 20, or 40Mb RLL. or slightly larger ESDI drives from
back in the day..im willing to learn.



On 1/21/07, Christian Baer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi folkes!

Is there any way to do this with FreeBSD?

Background:

I have to admit, that I have never actually done or even tried this with
any OS whatsoever. I am running a two drive system with two mirrors on
it. Because I wanted a lot of room for /usr while /usr/home ist mounted
on a different partition, the second drive is filled with the two
mirror partitions, /usr and a swap partition. Everything else is mounted
on the first drive. That being: /, /temp, /var, /usr/obj and the second
swap partition. Together with the two mirrors this means seven (in
words: 7) partitions. The table looks like this:

Filesystem  SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0a   501M 72M389M16%/
devfs   1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/da0d   1.9G102K1.8G 0%/tmp
/dev/da1f21G2.9G 17G15%/usr
/dev/da0h   6.8G742M5.5G12%/usr/obj
/dev/da0e   4.8G 71M4.4G 2%/var
/dev/mirror/sec1.eli9.8G7.5M9.0G 0%/usr/home
/dev/mirror/sec0.eli 34G 21M 32G 0%/usr/home/christian

What really sounds (and probably is) pathetic is that I have nearly 6
gigs of 'leftover' space on da0. Increasing the size of the mounted
partitions isn't really useful anymore (apart from reducing the free
space) as I for example probably won't be needing 2GB for /temp or more
than 5GB for /var - those are the sizes I have allocated now. Making /
any bigger than the current 512MB wouldn't bring any advances either.

Increasing the size of the mirrors isn't an option because that would be
schrinking /usr. Finding a new mount point wouldn't be a problem. I was
thinking something along the lines of /usr/ports. /usr/src was an idea
at first but since I want to keep that on a different physical drive
than /usr/obj, the idea doesn't seem that bright anymore.

But the
problem is that I can't allocate another partition, not that I ran out
of ideas for mount points. :-) On other machines with IDE-drives I had
one slice with partitions inside and never ran into this limitation
before. Is there any way to do something like that on SCSI-drives? We
are talking about SPARC64 here.

Regards
Chris
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Re: newbie documentation (was: Re: Contributing to FreeBSD documentation (was: Re: no ath0 on new system with good card))

2007-01-21 Thread Steve Franks

I have another section to add to my previous post:

At some point in your dealings, you may introduce a typo into a
critical startup file,  such as rc.conf, loader.conf, fstab, or
similar, and reach the following upon reboot:

""
"Press enter for /bin/sh:"

To recover:

0. press enter
1. cd /etc
2. cat fstab (if you don't know the partitions & disks to mount already)
3. mount /dev/adXs1Y /usr (gives you the edit command) (find X and Y
in your fstab file)
4. mount /dev/adXs1Z / (gives you write acess to /etc) (find X and Z
in your fstab)
5. edit blah ( i.e. rc.conf) to fix the typo
6. init 6

This has helped keep me from reaching for the install disk more than
once, and it took a long time to figure out intuitively - think it
might give the newbie's a 'leg-up'

Steve

On 1/17/07, Steve Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




On 1/16/07, Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  On 2007-01-16 15:47, Steve Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So, this is what I have so for.  It was a bit late at night, so I appologise
> > if my tone is a bit silly at times...where do we go from here?  Steve
>
> [snip nicely written stuff about freezes during installation and first
> post install steps]
>
> Fantastic!  This looks like something that would fit quite nicely with
> the section ``Installing FreeBSD > Troubleshooting'', in the Handbook.
>
> Do you mind if I integrate this with the section?  Does it look like the
> right place for you to write this stuff?  Will you be able to review it
> and let me know if it looks ok?


Sounds good to me.


> You can read the current Handbook section at:
>
>  
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-trouble.html


Hmmm.  Yes, I don't think the current page provides much actual help for newbies.  
Can we make sure to put links to all the appropriate man pages ( i.e. device.hints) 
in my text when we insert it?  I've found the man online to be way more useful than I 
expected for people who are willing to read.  We also could use some driver gurus to 
make my list of things to disable, and things to *not* disable both longer and 
correct - I admit I wrote that on my windows box, because my laptop bios disables the 
system (on purpose) when you put a non-compaq bsd-friendly network card in it.  Go 
big brother.  This is why I want to get the whole world to run *nix. 


> Regards,
> Giorgos



It occurs to me that a new option on the boot menu of the .iso installer that opens a 
 version of this page in links or equiv might be most useful for newbies (I'm at 
work, so I can't check if it's  there already).  It 
might be useful to point to that doc if the .iso installer is started in safemode as 
well.

Steve


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more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive

2007-01-21 Thread Christian Baer
Hi folkes!

Is there any way to do this with FreeBSD?

Background:

I have to admit, that I have never actually done or even tried this with
any OS whatsoever. I am running a two drive system with two mirrors on
it. Because I wanted a lot of room for /usr while /usr/home ist mounted
on a different partition, the second drive is filled with the two
mirror partitions, /usr and a swap partition. Everything else is mounted
on the first drive. That being: /, /temp, /var, /usr/obj and the second
swap partition. Together with the two mirrors this means seven (in
words: 7) partitions. The table looks like this:

Filesystem  SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0a   501M 72M389M16%/
devfs   1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/da0d   1.9G102K1.8G 0%/tmp
/dev/da1f21G2.9G 17G15%/usr
/dev/da0h   6.8G742M5.5G12%/usr/obj
/dev/da0e   4.8G 71M4.4G 2%/var
/dev/mirror/sec1.eli9.8G7.5M9.0G 0%/usr/home
/dev/mirror/sec0.eli 34G 21M 32G 0%/usr/home/christian

What really sounds (and probably is) pathetic is that I have nearly 6
gigs of 'leftover' space on da0. Increasing the size of the mounted
partitions isn't really useful anymore (apart from reducing the free
space) as I for example probably won't be needing 2GB for /temp or more
than 5GB for /var - those are the sizes I have allocated now. Making /
any bigger than the current 512MB wouldn't bring any advances either.

Increasing the size of the mirrors isn't an option because that would be
schrinking /usr. Finding a new mount point wouldn't be a problem. I was
thinking something along the lines of /usr/ports. /usr/src was an idea
at first but since I want to keep that on a different physical drive
than /usr/obj, the idea doesn't seem that bright anymore.

But the
problem is that I can't allocate another partition, not that I ran out
of ideas for mount points. :-) On other machines with IDE-drives I had
one slice with partitions inside and never ran into this limitation
before. Is there any way to do something like that on SCSI-drives? We
are talking about SPARC64 here.

Regards
Chris
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Re: apache exiting on signal 6

2007-01-21 Thread Joe Auty

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Okay,

I've done some Googling and it does appear as if this could be the  
source of this problem...


This page in particular suggests that:

http://www.pingle.org/2006/10/18/php-crashes-extensions/


However, I've tried all sorts of combinations with my extension set  
and haven't found an order which rids me of this problem. Does  
anybody have any general suggestions for coming up with  
troubleshooting strategies? As of know, I don't know which extensions  
to focus on, and whether to focus on putting them towards the  
beginning or end of the list, so I'm sort of grasping at straws here.


Any suggestions? Would doing a portupgrade -fr php4 straighten things  
out perhaps by building and reinstalling the extensions in the  
correct order?



Thanks in advance!


On Jan 20, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Joe Auty wrote:


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Any suggestions where I might start first in tweaking this file?

# cat /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini
extension=gettext.so
extension=mcrypt.so
extension=ftp.so
extension=session.so
extension=posix.so
extension=xml.so
extension=ctype.so
extension=readline.so
extension=openssl.so
extension=pcre.so
extension=imap.so
extension=mhash.so
extension=overload.so
extension=mysql.so
extension=zlib.so
extension=tokenizer.so
extension=iconv.so
extension=bz2.so
extension=rrdtool.so
extension=gd.so
extension=mbstring.so
extension=pdf.so
extension=snmp.so


On Jan 20, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Joe Holden wrote:


Joe Auty wrote:

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Just FYI, disabling eAccelerator hasn't rid me of this problem. I  
am using PHP as an Apache module.
I might look at using Fast CGI, or else simply ignore this  
problem. Is there a list somewhere of PHP apps that don't work  
with Fast CGI, or will I have to research this myself?
As far as I recall, it was something to do with the order of  
extensions in extensions.ini.


HTH,
Joe
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portsnap fetch metadata corrupted on amd64 - previous threads researched, do not fix issue

2007-01-21 Thread Steve Franks

aire# portsnap fetch
Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... using portsnap2.FreeBSD.org
Fetching snapshot tag... done.
Fetching snapshot metadata... done.
Updating from Sat Jan 20 17:19:42 MST 2007 to Sun Jan 21 12:49:55 MST 2007.
Fetching 4 metadata patches. done.
Applying metadata patches... done.
Fetching 4 metadata files... /usr/sbin/portsnap: cannot open
e4aab25eac822125c5d063501a381b8bb683a680cde58bb107b053c35a6194e2.gz: No such
file or directory
metadata is corrupt.
aire#

Anyone help? I noticed several earlier threads on this subject, several
seemed to experience this problem only on amd64 (my platform) I'm on
6.1-stable

It is a 2-week old install, and I have always got this problem.  My i386
laptops on 6.1-stable fetch fine.

If I delete all files in /var/db/portsnap, it sucessfully downloads the 45MB
file again, then goes right back to this problem - could it be due to the
fact that 6.1 is now not the latest stable version?

Thanks,
Steve
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Single command that outputs "system status"?

2007-01-21 Thread Kelly Jones

It's easy to write a shell script that dumps/mails the output of
several "status" commands (eg, "df -k", "crontab -l", "ps -aux -www",
"top -n -d 1 infinity", "w -d", "mailq -v", "netstat -a", "vmstat",
etc) every hour, but I'm wondering if I'm re-inventing the wheel.

Is there a FreeBSD command that reports "system status", either an
existing shell script that does the above, or something that talks to
the kernel at a lower level and reports all relevant values?

I know about /etc/periodic/*/*status*, but this seems both excessive
in places (I don't really need rejected email info, for example) and
incomplete (I don't think it gives me all the information the commands
above do).

I also know about mrtg, but that seems more geared toward graphing
and storing historical information and seems limited as well.

I realize this question is ambiguous. I guess what I'm really asking
is: is there a FreeBSD tool *designed* to report system status on a
regular basis, that I could use as the basis of an hourly reporting
system, even if I had to add/tweak some stuff myself.

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general question re: performance

2007-01-21 Thread Glenn Becker


All -

One of the reasons I jumped into trying a kernel configuration/compile is 
that I have been noticing performance issues with STABLE.


(if you are reading and want to skip the following explanatory verbiage 
the questions are: how do I profile applications to figure out where the 
performance bottleneck is? and can these be addressed by compiling a 
custom kernel?)


=>explanatory verbiage

I'm running 6.2 on an old but not ancient Dell laptop, PIII 1000MHz, which 
now has seven operating systems on it. I have noticed recently that the 
graphics-heavy planetarium program Stellarium -- which runs great on my 
Debian GNU/Linux system -- barely creaks along on FreeBSD and is basically 
unusable.


This is NOT FreeBSD bashing ... it's more that I feel as though 1) 
something may have changed since I last used the system much and/or 2) I 
am doing something stupid. I am actually accustomed to FreeBSD being 
lighter and faster than the Linuxes, so it especially surprised me.


In my quest to get my ports up to speed I have noticed some gugundous 
compilation times, too ... when I had FreeBSD running on a certifiably 
ancient Pentium laptop I got used to letting make buildworld run 
overnight ... but at the moment I am looking at the make of gfortran some 
hours after I kicked it off.


So ... I would like to know how to profile applications (like Stellarium) 
to see where the bottlenecks are and then know more about how to fix them. 
Is it generally accepted that a custom kernel with all the fat trimmed 
will help?


Thanks in advance,

Glenn

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Re: identifying hardware for kernel config purposes

2007-01-21 Thread Jeff Royle

Glenn Becker wrote:


Hi -

I am following along in the Handbook in my first attempt to compile a 
custom kernel ... and once again confronting the fact that I really know 
beans about hardware. So once I get to the "device" lines in my edited 
copy of the GENERIC config file I start to get a little bit lost.


I know enough to look through /var/run/dmesg.boot, and many devices make 
themselves obvious (a DVD-ROM drive is a DVD-ROM drive is a ...) but how 
do I identify my motherboard, for example, so I know which lines to 
comment out (or conversely, leave in) in the kernel config file?


There are a couple places that have good comments on what each device 
is.  GENERIC kernel itself is very descriptive, for example for your 
keyboard:


--- snip ---
# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device  atkbdc  # AT keyboard controller
device  atkbd   # AT keyboard
device  psm # PS/2 mouse
--- end sip ---

Also read over NOTES it has a lot of architecture specific notes.  You 
should also read over /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES for even more kernel options.


If there is a good overall guide to info like this, I'd appreciate it if 
someone would point it out to me. :^) I also get lost in the alphabet 
soup of ATA, PCI, SCSI and so on.


You will need to do some reading into these devices in some cases if you 
are planing of customizing the kernel.


dmesg will show you everything the system detects, even if it doesn't 
have a driver.   It is upto you from that point to figure out what 
device driver (if there is one) your kernel is missing for the hardware 
and add it.


Thanks in advance for any guidance. I didn't want to attach my whole 
dmesg.boot file but will do so if that will help.


Best,

Glenn



Oh and another piece of advice, read up in the handbook on recovering 
from a kernel that will not boot.   Important to know when doing 
recompiles :)


Cheers,

Jeff
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identifying hardware for kernel config purposes

2007-01-21 Thread Glenn Becker


Hi -

I am following along in the Handbook in my first attempt to compile a 
custom kernel ... and once again confronting the fact that I really know 
beans about hardware. So once I get to the "device" lines in my edited 
copy of the GENERIC config file I start to get a little bit lost.


I know enough to look through /var/run/dmesg.boot, and many devices make 
themselves obvious (a DVD-ROM drive is a DVD-ROM drive is a ...) but how 
do I identify my motherboard, for example, so I know which lines to 
comment out (or conversely, leave in) in the kernel config file?


If there is a good overall guide to info like this, I'd appreciate it if 
someone would point it out to me. :^) I also get lost in the alphabet 
soup of ATA, PCI, SCSI and so on.


Thanks in advance for any guidance. I didn't want to attach my whole 
dmesg.boot file but will do so if that will help.


Best,

Glenn

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Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder

2007-01-21 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Jan 21, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Andrew Gould wrote:





Nevermind.. didn't see the last line. What does your MacMini say when  
you mount the camera (Utilities -> Disk Utility or Utilities ->  
Terminal and type in mount and provide the output here)?

-Garrett
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Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder

2007-01-21 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Jan 21, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Andrew Gould wrote:

Background:  The Olympus WS-310M digital voice recorder has a  
standard USB interface and uses flash memory to store sound files.   
Unfortunately, this device only records to WMA files.  I was able  
to view the filesystem on my MacMini without installing any  
software.  I'm trying to mount it to my FreeBSD system so that I  
can use ffmpeg to convert the WMA files to a more universally  
readable format.


Problem:  I am having trouble mounting this device in FreeBSD 6.2.

Here is the related dmesg output:

 umass0: OLYMPUS CORPORATION DIGITAL VOICE RECORDER, rev  
1.10/1.00, addr 3

 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0:  Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device
 da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
 da0: 500MB (256000 2048 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 125C)
 umass0: at uhub3 port 2 (addr 3) disconnected
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry
 umass0: detached
 umass0: OLYMPUS CORPORATION DIGITAL VOICE RECORDER, rev  
1.10/1.00, addr 3

 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0:  Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device
 da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
 da0: 500MB (256000 2048 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 125C)

Here is the output from 'fdisk /dev/da0':

 *** Working on device /dev/da0 ***
 parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
 cylinders=125 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl)

 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
 cylinders=125 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl)

 Media sector size is 2048
 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
 Information from DOS bootblock is:
 The data for partition 1 is:
 sysid 6 (0x06),(Primary 'big' DOS (>= 32MB))
start 117, size 255885 (499 Meg), flag 80 (active)
 beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 54;
 end: cyl 499/ head 7/ sector 32
 The data for partition 2 is:
 
 The data for partition 3 is:
 
 The data for partition 4 is:
 

Here is the output from 'ls /dev/da0*':

 /dev/da0/dev/da0s1

Here is the output of my various attempts at mounting this device  
as root:


attempt:  mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0 /mnt/ws310
result: mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0: Invalid argument

attempt:  mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310

result: mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument


Attempts with '-oro' instead of '-orw' had similar results.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

Andrew Gould


Try /dev/da0s1.
-Garrett
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trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder

2007-01-21 Thread Andrew Gould
Background:  The Olympus WS-310M digital voice recorder has a standard USB 
interface and uses flash memory to store sound files.  Unfortunately, this 
device only records to WMA files.  I was able to view the filesystem on my 
MacMini without installing any software.  I'm trying to mount it to my FreeBSD 
system so that I can use ffmpeg to convert the WMA files to a more universally 
readable format.

Problem:  I am having trouble mounting this device in FreeBSD 6.2.

Here is the related dmesg output:

 umass0: OLYMPUS CORPORATION DIGITAL VOICE RECORDER, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 3
 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0:  Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
 da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
 da0: 500MB (256000 2048 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 125C)
 umass0: at uhub3 port 2 (addr 3) disconnected
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry
 umass0: detached
 umass0: OLYMPUS CORPORATION DIGITAL VOICE RECORDER, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 3
 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0:  Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
 da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
 da0: 500MB (256000 2048 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 125C)
 
Here is the output from 'fdisk /dev/da0':

 *** Working on device /dev/da0 ***
 parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
 cylinders=125 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl)
 
 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
 cylinders=125 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl)
 
 Media sector size is 2048
 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
 Information from DOS bootblock is:
 The data for partition 1 is:
 sysid 6 (0x06),(Primary 'big' DOS (>= 32MB))
start 117, size 255885 (499 Meg), flag 80 (active)
 beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 54;
 end: cyl 499/ head 7/ sector 32
 The data for partition 2 is:
 
 The data for partition 3 is:
 
 The data for partition 4 is:
 

Here is the output from 'ls /dev/da0*':

 /dev/da0/dev/da0s1

Here is the output of my various attempts at mounting this device as root:

attempt:  mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0 /mnt/ws310
result: mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0: Invalid argument

attempt:  mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310

result: mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument


Attempts with '-oro' instead of '-orw' had similar results.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

Andrew Gould


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Rebuilding kernel / world on another disk

2007-01-21 Thread Garrett Cooper
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Ok, I kind of worked myself into a corner by only bringing a USB
keyboard and accidentally making logins impossible via the network (bad
firewall setup with IPFilter).

Basically I have a disk with FreeBSD 7-CURRENT on it and I have a
working machine with FreeBSD 6.2 on it, and I need to build a kernel for
the FreeBSD 7-CURRENT machine so I can get it back up and running with
USB keyboard support and disable IPFilter.

- -Is there a means to properly mount psuedofilesystems (/dev is giving me
problems since it isn't mounted), so I can run chroot and ( build /
install ) a new ( kernel / system ) with little problem?

- -Or can I specify some extra variables to make in the ( build / install
) process to maybe get it to work outside of a chroot?

Thanks,
- -Garrett
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Re: Does Firefox run on the SPARC64 port of FreeBSD?

2007-01-21 Thread Christian Baer
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:04:00 +0100 (CET) Christian Baer wrote:

>> Basically, it does not work on 6.1-RELEASE, so you should consider
>> updating to 6.2-RELEASE.
>
> Bin there, done that. Was one of the first things I tried. Now running:
>
> FreeBSD sunny.rz1.convenimus.net 6.2-STABLE 
> FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 16 16:14:35 CET 2007
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SUNNY  sparc64
>
> I'll do another cvsup and make a new world tonight. I'll let you know if
> that works.

I did a cvsup last night. Wasn't really watching it, but it was over
pretty quickly, so I'd say that there wasn't that much change. Anyways,
this is what I have now:

FreeBSD sunny.rz1.convenimus.net 6.2-STABLE 
FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 21 12:52:35 CET 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SUNNY  sparc64

Gotta change the name of the computer. Sunny is just too corny! :-)

Not much has changed apart from the dates. And nothing has changed
regarding Firefox. I completely deinstalled it - which took its sweet
time. :-) And I also deinstalled Thunderbird and all of the dependencies
of those two that I could find. Then I reinstalled Firefox with pkg_add -r
in case there was an update in the tree.

I still get that segfault, so I'm afraid someone may be looking a little
longer there.

Regards
Chris
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Re: upgrading from 6.1 to 6.2 with custom kernel

2007-01-21 Thread Martin Tournoij
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 11:45:36AM -0500, Jeff Royle wrote:
> Jonathan Horne wrote:
> >On Saturday 20 January 2007 20:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>Terrific waste of bandwidth.
> >*shrug* i dont see it that way.  i see it as insurance that when i build 
> >kernels for 15 machines, 
> >they are all getting the cleanest sources possible, with absolutely nothing 
> >left over from a 
> >previous build.
> 
> If you wish to sync 15 machines and plan on doing that a lot, it would 
> benefit you to setup a 
> private cvs mirror.
> 
> You use 1 machine as your mirror, it syncs say once a day or week or hour 
> whatever off the main cvs 
> mirror sites.
> 
> You then have your other machines sync off that.   This would ensure all your 
> systems are kept in 
> line with the same src.
> 
> This would save on bandwidth for both yourself and the mirror sites.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jeff


Another possible solution would be to export your /usr/src directory
with NFS.

I use this for my src and ports directory, and it works quite well,
it's easy to setup, bandwidth friendly, and easy to maintain.
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Re: Remove extra packages and streamline 6.2

2007-01-21 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Saturday 20 January 2007 20:15, Joshua Lewis wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> After many days of hard work, a lot of caffeine and not nearly enough
> sleep I have a working asterisk PBX for my home.
>
> I have it working on a PIII 800 with 512MB of RAM and two 5GB drives
> in a Raid1 config. While this system should suffice I would like to
> streamline the system a little.
>
> I installed a lot of unnecessary applications during sysisntall. Is
> there a way to figure out what software I don't need. I did a
> pkg_info | wc -l and found that I have 63 apps installed. I know I
> don't need a bunch of these but I am afraid to delete random
> packages. After having a non working phone for two weeks my wife
> would kill me if I messed it all up again.
>
> Any ways I know I don't need xorg any more. I installed it so I could
> use gastman to try and get my Asterisk config working faster.  I
> never wound up using gastman so now I need to remove it and xorg. But
> there are a bunch of fonts and docs and things.
>
> Is it possible to remove any packages I have not used for X amount of
> days?
>
> Is there some way to figure out what apps I don't need installed
> anymore?
>
> Are there any other ways to streamline a system?
>
> I removed everything from rc.conf except the basics. Hostname,
> defualtrouter, ifconfig, keyrate, linux_enable, saver, sshd, asterisk.
>
> Here is what I have installed.
> [snipped]
>
> Sincerely,
> Joshua Lewis
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

all of my systems, whether desktops or servers, i start with the minimal 
install.  from there, i use the ports collection to buildout anything i need.  
i know this is probably the long way around for most cases, but i feel in the 
end, there is nothing on there that i didnt deliberately put on there.

next time up, try a minimal install, and then just cd right into the directory 
of the port that will define your system.  when you 'make install clean', it 
should process just the dependencies that your PBX needs.

cheers,
jonathan
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Re: upgrading from 6.1 to 6.2 with custom kernel

2007-01-21 Thread Jeff Royle

Jonathan Horne wrote:

On Saturday 20 January 2007 20:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Terrific waste of bandwidth.


*shrug* i dont see it that way.  i see it as insurance that when i build 
kernels for 15 machines, they are all getting the cleanest sources possible, 
with absolutely nothing left over from a previous build.




If you wish to sync 15 machines and plan on doing that a lot, it would 
benefit you to setup a private cvs mirror.


You use 1 machine as your mirror, it syncs say once a day or week or 
hour whatever off the main cvs mirror sites.


You then have your other machines sync off that.   This would ensure all 
your systems are kept in line with the same src.


This would save on bandwidth for both yourself and the mirror sites.

Cheers,

Jeff

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Re: Firefox keeps beeping at me ...

2007-01-21 Thread Per olof Ljungmark

Glenn Becker wrote:


All -

I've been away from FreeBSD for some time and have been updating my 
installation, getting used to the ways of portupgrade, etc.


Have noticed that Firefox keeps emitting what sound like console beeps - 
I haven't established much of a pattern for these though it always 
happens when I close the app.


Is there a way to kill these? Apologies in advance if this is a dopey 
question. Obviously more an annoyance than anything.


perhaps -questions is more appropriate...

Anyway, that makes two of us - mine beeps too - when sending and reading 
mails. No idea why though, sorry.


Anyone?
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Re: upgrading from 6.1 to 6.2 with custom kernel

2007-01-21 Thread Christian Baer
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:29:52 -0600 Jonathan Horne wrote:

>> Terrific waste of bandwidth.
>
> *shrug* i dont see it that way.  i see it as insurance that when i build 
> kernels for 15 machines, they are all getting the cleanest sources possible, 
> with absolutely nothing left over from a previous build.

There is no such thing as "dirty" sources - at least not by your
definition. cvsup or the new builtin replacement replaces old files with
new ones and erases obsolete ones. And there is *never* anthing left
over from a previous build in /usr/src/! All the work is done in
/usr/obj/ and you can erase that at any time. In fact the target
cleanworld does just that.

Rebuilding the source tree isn't a big deal in terms of bandwidth, but
thousands of people doing that on a regular basis will drive the costs
of maintaining mirrors up - even though traffic is getting cheaper with
time.

Regards
Chris
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Re: Remove extra packages and streamline 6.2

2007-01-21 Thread Martin Tournoij
On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 09:15:34PM -0500, Joshua Lewis wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> After many days of hard work, a lot of caffeine and not nearly enough sleep I 
> have a working 
> asterisk PBX for my home.
> 
> I have it working on a PIII 800 with 512MB of RAM and two 5GB drives in a 
> Raid1 config. While this 
> system should suffice I would like to streamline the system a little.
> 
> I installed a lot of unnecessary applications during sysisntall. Is there a 
> way to figure out what 
> software I don't need. I did a pkg_info | wc -l and found that I have 63 apps 
> installed. I know I 
> don't need a bunch of these but I am afraid to delete random packages. After 
> having a non working 
> phone for two weeks my wife would kill me if I messed it all up again.
> 
> Any ways I know I don't need xorg any more. I installed it so I could use 
> gastman to try and get my 
> Asterisk config working faster.  I never wound up using gastman so now I need 
> to remove it and xorg. 
> But there are a bunch of fonts and docs and things.
> 
> Is it possible to remove any packages I have not used for X amount of days?
> 
> Is there some way to figure out what apps I don't need installed anymore?
> 
> Are there any other ways to streamline a system?
> 
> I removed everything from rc.conf except the basics. Hostname, defualtrouter, 
> ifconfig, keyrate, 
> linux_enable, saver, sshd, asterisk.
> 
> Here is what I have installed.
> 
> [PKG_INFO SNIP]
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Joshua Lewis
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
You can use stat to see when a file was last accessed, 

for example, on my system stat -x /usr/local/bin/7z show (among other
things):
Access: Mon Jan 15 00:34:11 2007

So, I last used 7z on jan 15th, at 00:34.

I suppose you could write a script to automatically  remove packages
which haven't been used for a X amount of time, but I would not
recommend doing this, because you might accidentally remove a package
you don't want to remove.
Examples would be dos2unix, antiword, 7zip, packges you might not use
a lot, but sure come in handy at times!

Also, it would require quite some work, probably more work than you'll save.

Another hint may be this:
pkg_info -adrR > PKGINFO

This will generate a list of all your installed packages including
dependency's and a description (from pkg-descr)
Drop the -d flag if you don't want descriptions.
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Re: upgrading from 6.1 to 6.2 with custom kernel

2007-01-21 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Saturday 20 January 2007 20:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Terrific waste of bandwidth.

*shrug* i dont see it that way.  i see it as insurance that when i build 
kernels for 15 machines, they are all getting the cleanest sources possible, 
with absolutely nothing left over from a previous build.

cheers,
jonathan
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freebsd-update

2007-01-21 Thread eoghan

Hi
I am trying to run the freebsd-update, so as root I do:
/usr/local/sbin/freebsd-update fetch
And I get:
Fetching public key...
fetch: http://update.daemonology.net/amd64/6.1/pub.key: Not Found
Error fetching updates
My conf looks like:
#  Configuration file for freebsd-update-client
#

#  Specifies the base URL from which updates will be fetched
URL=http://update.daemonology.net/

#  Specifies a trusted public key fingerprint
KEYPRINT=f212b8797f3b2f981a772cdbacccfed9

Any ideas why this is not working?
Thanks
Eoghan
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Re: How to install the 3945ABG Driver on a fresh FreeBSD 6.2 install?

2007-01-21 Thread Gilbert Cao
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 12:36:04AM +, Vince Hoffman wrote:
> I hate to say this but this driver only seems to compile on -CURRENT as 
> far as i can tell (and as far as the conversation at 
> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=0+0+archive/2007/freebsd-drivers/20070107.freebsd-drivers
>  
> leads me to believe.)
> There is another less complete driver floating around that is usable on 
> 6.x although it only works for some people and even then only at 6 meg 
> (i believe the conversation i linked contains links to that driver if 
> you dont fancy running current.)
> 
> Vince

  Hi,

I think you are talking about that one
http://people.freebsd.org/~flz/local/wpi/wpi-freebsd-20061109.tgz
about a "less complete driver" "usable on 6.x".
And, yes, I have tried it, but it did not work for me. (I don't know yet
how it works for some people).
In my case, with ifconfig, the status is still on "no carrier".
No "associated" status.


About the following,
http://www.clearchain.com/~benjsc/download/20070107-wpi-freebsd.tar.gz
basically yes, it only compiles on -CURRENT. I have tried it and it
works for me.


As I wanted to stay on 6.x, I have installed a 6.2-RELEASE, and tried to
make the 20070107-wpi-freebsd.tar.gz compiles.
Here, you will find the result of my work :
http://www.bsdmon.com/download/20070121-wpi-freebsd.tar.gz

To make it compiles, I basically started from 20070107-wpi-freebsd.tar.gz
and took some code on wpi-freebsd-20061109.tgz.

Now, this new one compiles and it works for me :
"status: associated" on ifconfig output.
Don't ask why I do this or that, in the code. I don't really know :p.
First, I just wanted to make the latest package I found, compile.
And, on the plus side, it works for me.
In the package, I have kept the original file as .orig, so you will see
what I have added and changed.

I have intentionally commented WPI_DEBUG and WPI_CURRENT.
About WPI_CURRENT, this have to be commented, on 6.x.
About WPI_DEBUG, it is just that I wanted to get rid of lots of output,
in my daily use.


Hope it helps ;)

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Re: Turion64 x2 vs Centrino Duo 2 which is faster for FreeBSD and KDE Desktop?

2007-01-21 Thread Christian Baer
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:12:25 +0300 Abdullah Al-Marrie wrote:

[broken up Xpost]

> I plan to buy a new notebook and will use FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, I have
> 2 choices, Turion64 x2 with 2.0 GHz and Centrino Duo 2 with 2.0 GHz,
> but with 2 GB DDR2 ram, with the same speed of the hd 5400 RPM.
>
> So which of them will buildworld, and ports from source faster? both
> of them will use AC not on battery when do these stuff.

I doubt that you will notice any big difference. While the AMD64 port is
quite nicely tested and very swift by now, the optimizations towards
Intel aren't bad either - even though this isn't true 64Bit processor.

In this case the HD will probably be the bottle-neck, not being able to
read and write the data quick enough to cause 100% CPU load. You would
have to 'make -j 4' at least to get anywhere near 100% load (I even have
to do that for 2 UltraSPARC II CPUs with 450MHz). And that really causes
load on a hard drive.

Just my 2 cents...
Chris
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Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet

2007-01-21 Thread Christian Baer
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:45:27 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

> That's $5K difference not $10.  Thieves can get away with a lot if they
> steal it in small bits.

So if I steal $1 from every account of New York's biggest bank they
would smile and see that as a sporting achievement? Somehow I doubt
that.

SCNR
Chris
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Re: Mail server intermittent freeze

2007-01-21 Thread Christian Baer
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:56:08 -0600 (CST) Rich Winkel wrote:

> Has anyone else seen this behavior??

What are the HDs doing? Is there swapping going on? 512 megs of RAM are
not really a generous amount for this kind of work.

Regards
Chris
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Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet

2007-01-21 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet


>
> What really grates is that I have to pay Verizon *more* if I want
> *less* from them!  Would you pay $40K for a pickup, if you could get
> the same truck, from the same dealer, for $35K including a camper?
> That sort of pricing, by a monopoly, is supposed to be illegal (at
> least in the U.S.).
>

That's $5K difference not $10.  Thieves can get away with a lot if they
steal it in small bits.

> > What I don't get is I
> > see guys walking in dropping $1000 on associated Mac hardware crap
> > without blinking, then they squawk about paying an additional $9
> > a month on DSL?  That grand on Mac crap will pay for 9 years of
> > DSL at this so-called "unreasonable" rate.
>
> The most expensive system around here is a Mac Sawtooth that cost
> $225 -- including a 17" monitor -- last September.  The (Dell)
> FreeBSD box I'm using at the moment cost $10 at a flea market,
> plus something like $40 for a 160GB hard drive to replace the
> original 10GB that failed after a few months.  The one I'm going
> to be installing 6.2 on -- also a Dell -- was less than $5 at a
> yard sale.
>

This is a totally unfair comparison.  They guy dropping $1K on a
Mac is walking out with a machine that is fully configured and
ready to run.

When you get an old clunker by the time you tally up the time you
have spent on getting it ready to run, your at the same amount.

Cheap independent desktop support goes for about $35-$50
and hour, and none of those guys could load an Open Source
OS and do any serious configuration on it if their lives depended
 on it.

Skilled UNIX tech time is at min $95 an hour.  Your talking a
min of 4 hours to get a Goodwill find up and going on FreeBSD
by the time you work out the quirks, assuming that the ram in it
doesen't have a flaw and the disk is good, if you have to replace
that stuff you count the hours it takes to drive to Fry's and back,
buy the disk, etc..  well your getting pretty close to that $1K in
my book.

Of course, I understand you might be regarding that time as
"free" but it's only "free" to you - not to anyone else who can't
do this - they have to pay for it.  Thus, you have to factor it
in when making comparisons.

In any case I was really speaking about the delta in a more general
sense.  I see a lot of folks going to comcast - who as I understand
their pricing, for Internet service only over comcast, you pay more
too.  The real point is how much do you value something?  Are
you going to say that PPP-only DSL service from an ISP (verizon.net)
that does not give you a static IP number, and has a support desk
that is based in India and only speaks Windowease (and does a
poor job of that) is worth the same as all-the-time-on fully bridged
DSL service with a static IP and no goofy MTU size restrictions
and is supported by the same people that built the system and
who run Windows, FreeBSD and Linux both on their desktops
and servers?

Naturally, as an ISP employee this is my personal soapbox, but
let me put it another way.  Right now there is a revolution going on
with food.  40 years ago you went to the grocery store and bought
bread and all they had was Wonder air bread.  You went to the
bar and bought a beer and all they had was Bud.  Restaurants
either came in Burger, Steak, or American Menu.  In short, the
quality of food had descended into the toilet as a result of the
constant push to sell it cheaper that started in the late 1940's.
(epomized by Brother McDonald)

Today, you go to the grocery store and sure you can still get the
air-bread.  But for more money you can get bread that tastes
far, far better, and was baked locally.  You go to the bar and sure
you can still get the cheap Bud that was peed out of some horse
back in the Midwest and carried in 1000 gallon tank trucks,
or you can pay more money and get the better tasting microbrewed
stuff that someone brewed in small batches right there.

What has happened is that people stopped comparing food
based solely on price and started looking for quality, and when
that happened, all the sudden companies appeared that supplied
the better quality, albet at a bit higher price.

I'd rather drink a milkshake from a place like Baskin Robbins and
pay more for it than a cheaper milkshake at McDonalds.  Lots of
people would rather pay more for the better tasting coffee at
Starbucks than the cheap stuff out of the office vending machine.

Why is it OK for the food industry to be like this, and it's not
OK for the Internet Service industry to be like this?  It seems like
everyone only wants Internet Service to be as cheap as possible
and couldn't give a damn about quality.

>
> When I was looking, I couldn't find any for much less than double,
> but it has been a while.  Do you happen to know of any low-cost
> DSL providers who offer service in Washington County, Orego

Re: Why I can't get Wide screen with Intel graphics

2007-01-21 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 12:33:32PM +0300, Abdullah Al-Marrie wrote:
...
> > i put the line
> > /usr/local/bin/915resolution 58 1280 1024
> >
> > in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/00setvideo.sh
> > so it gets called automatically at startup
> >
> > cheers
> > luigi
> 
> That didn't make it, is there another way to do it? will xorg 7.2

check the permissionson the file. it must work.
luigi
> going to fix this issue when it's released?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri
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Re: Why I can't get Wide screen with Intel graphics

2007-01-21 Thread Abdullah Al-Marrie

On 1/20/07, Luigi Rizzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 06:05:45PM +, Abdullah Al-Marrie wrote:
> On 1/20/07, Luigi Rizzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 07:38:36AM -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
> > > under the subsection of display, i have
> > > Modes  "1024x768"
> > > maybe you  can try using "1280x800"
> >
> > in order to get the higher resolutions, you should
> > probably install the port
> >
> > /usr/ports/sysutils/915resolution
> >
> > which redefines the bios modes.
> > In my case (Dell Latitude X1) i run it as
> >
> > #--- set 1280 resolution on video
> > /usr/local/bin/915resolution 5c 1280 768
> >
> > you should probably change the 768 to 800 if that's your
> > screen height.
> >
> > cheers
> > luigi
>
> luigi,
>
> That worked, thank you!
>
> DELL# /usr/local/bin/915resolution -l
> Intel 800/900 Series VBIOS Hack : version 0.5.2
>
> Chipset: 945GM
> BIOS: TYPE 1
> Mode Table Offset: $C + $269
> Mode Table Entries: 36
>
> Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel
> Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel
> Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel
> Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel
> Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel
> Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel
> Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel
> Mode 43 : 800x600, 16 bits/pixel
> Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel
> Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel
> Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel
> Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel
> Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel
> Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel
> Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel
> Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel
> Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel
> Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel
>
>
> DELL# /usr/local/bin/915resolution 58 1280 1024
> Intel 800/900 Series VBIOS Hack : version 0.5.2
>
> Chipset: 945GM
> BIOS: TYPE 1
> Mode Table Offset: $C + $269
> Mode Table Entries: 36
>
> Patch mode 58 to resolution 1280x1024 complete
>
> I also set
>
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen0"
> Device "Card0"
> Monitor"Monitor0"
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 32
> Modes "1280x800" "1024x768" "800x600"
> EndSubSection
>
> But once I rebooted the laptop I lose it, and I have to do it again
> after the FreeBSD starts
>
> Is there a work around for this issue?

i put the line
/usr/local/bin/915resolution 58 1280 1024

in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/00setvideo.sh
so it gets called automatically at startup

cheers
luigi


That didn't make it, is there another way to do it? will xorg 7.2
going to fix this issue when it's released?


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Turion64 x2 vs Centrino Duo 2 which is faster for FreeBSD and KDE Desktop?

2007-01-21 Thread Abdullah Al-Marrie

Hello,

I plan to buy a new notebook and will use FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, I have
2 choices, Turion64 x2 with 2.0 GHz and Centrino Duo 2 with 2.0 GHz,
but with 2 GB DDR2 ram, with the same speed of the hd 5400 RPM.

So which of them will buildworld, and ports from source faster? both
of them will use AC not on battery when do these stuff.

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