Re: Can't burn cds

[Pollywog]

On Friday 27 July 2007 02:38:31 Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On July 27, 2007 2:07:47 AM + Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > I had trouble getting CD burning to work, but the FreeBSD Handbook had
> > the  info I needed to get it to work.  I had to modify my fstab and in
> > order to  use k3b, I had to mount the CD on the command line first.  It
> > won't work if  the CD is not mounted first, it's not as easy as it is in
> > Linux, but it  works.
>
> Thanks a lot.  You've made me feel like a complete idiot.  :-)
>
> I'll try it tomorrow, but I'm pretty certain that is precisely what my
> problem was.  The fact that I didn't think of it is rather embarrassing.
>

Well don't feel that way yet because I might be wrong and it might be 
something else that is causing the problem you are having.   :)
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Re: Sendmail question

[Noel Jones]

On 7/26/07, Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
>
> Dylan Smith wrote:
> > Eric Crist wrote:
> >> On Jul 26, 2007, at 4:54 AMJul 26, 2007, Dylan Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am currently on the last stages of setting up a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE
> >>> File and Network Application Server. One of my last tasks is to
> >>> simple forward all mail from root out through my isp's SMTP(requires
> >>> authentication) server and to an email account i have elsewhere. That
> >>> is to say i have no purpose for a mail server other than to handle
> >>> mail from things like periodic and to move that mail elsewhere.
> >>>
> >>> Can this be easily accomplished? If so are there any guides/how-to's?
> >>> I have done a search around my usual BSD sites and books and found
> >>> nothing that is easily modified to my circumstances.
>
> >> It can be done, but it's a PITA with Sendmail.  Look into
> >> /usr/ports/mail/ssmtp.  We use it on our systems here where we need to
> >> simply get root's email off the box.  Simple configuration file, works
> >> well.
>
> > Thanks for that little suggestion.
> > Would this mean that i could just disable sendmail
> > totally(sendmail_enable="none")?
>
> Hmmm... no one seems to have cottoned onto the 'requires
> authentication' statement in the original message.  As far as I can
> tell, ssmtp only allows authentication via the use of cryptographic
> certificates -- which is probably the most secure way of doing
> authentication but also tends not to be supported on many mail
> systems.

a fairly simple mail client that supports authentication:
http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/

-- 
Noel Jones
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PS/2 problems

[Tanner Currie]

Hi I just installed FreeBSD 6.2 and it's working great
except my keyboard (PS/2 connected) cuts in and out. I
tested the keyboard which works perfectly on another
machine. It will work fine for 5 or 10 minutes and
then it cuts in and out (it also beeps sometimes
before it dies). I was suspicious of a purely physical
problem but sometimes it will be completely
unresponsive and 30 seconds later it will puke out
everything I was trying to type. I also plugged in a
PS/2 to USB adapter thinking I could try a different
door but that was completely dead (I don't know how to
diagnose the USB connection). Any advise?

Thanks,

Tanner Currie
Guelph, Ontario, Canada


   

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Re: Can't burn cds

[Paul Schmehl]

--On July 27, 2007 2:07:47 AM + Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


I had trouble getting CD burning to work, but the FreeBSD Handbook had
the  info I needed to get it to work.  I had to modify my fstab and in
order to  use k3b, I had to mount the CD on the command line first.  It
won't work if  the CD is not mounted first, it's not as easy as it is in
Linux, but it  works.


Thanks a lot.  You've made me feel like a complete idiot.  :-)

I'll try it tomorrow, but I'm pretty certain that is precisely what my 
problem was.  The fact that I didn't think of it is rather embarrassing.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/

Re: Can't burn cds

[Paul Schmehl]

--On July 26, 2007 5:59:01 PM -0500 Josh Paetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


camcontrol isn't going to know anything about IDE devices, it only
knows about SCSI.


So why does it show the first cd, which is also ide?


It's hard to see without the propmpts, but are you trying to use
burncd as root?  A normal user isn't going to have the neccessary
privs. to write a cd by default.


Yes.  All the commands were typed as root.


cdcontrol is simply telling you it can't read the TOC of the cd in the
drive, presumably because there's no cd in it.


There was a cd in the drive - a blank one I was trying to write to.


 I haven't used
cdcontrol in ages, but it's possible it needs root (in the case that
you were using it as a normal user with a disk in the drive)


All commands were typed as root.

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/

Re: Can't burn cds

[Paul Schmehl]

--On July 26, 2007 2:34:23 PM -0700 Bruce Caruthers 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Well, I'm using 6.2-RELEASE/amd64, and I get those same
"Input/ouput error" messages.  However, the discs I have
burned all worked fine, so I've assumed it was just
something the program tries to test for or request info
on, but can continue without.

Have you checked whether the burned discs actually work?

They're not being burned at all.  After the ioctl error message, the 
program returns to the prompt.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/

ICH8R and SATA drives at boot

[Bruce Caruthers]

After much googling and poring through the Intel
site, I'm stumped, so I hope you don't mind my
asking here, even though it is technically not a
FreeBSD question, since this is before it even gets
to the loader...

My system:

* Intel DG965WH mobo
* Pentium 4 (631, HT, EM64T) 3GHz
* FreeBSD 6.2R/amd64 (w/Marvell patch)
* Kingston KVR800D2N5K2/2G RAM (2x1GB)
* ICH8R wRAID5 (only using RAID-1)
* Intel Matrix Storage Manager option ROM v.6.1.0.1002
* 4x Hitachi Deskstar 320GB HDT725032VLA360 SATA300
  -- set up as 2 pairs of RAID-1
* Pioneer DVR-109 DVD+/-RW

During boot, it takes about one minute for every
drive I have attached to the SATA ports before I
get the listing of detected drives and RAID arrays
("Press Ctrl-I to ...").

When I had 2 drives, it took 2 minutes, when I
added an additional 2, it became 4 minutes.  And it
seems precisely one minute per drive, which leads
me to believe it is some sort of query timeout.
(Reminds me a lot of an unterminated SCSI chain.)

I have tried disabling all other potential boot
devices (optical, network, USB, removables, etc.) in
case the BIOS was probing for them, but the timing
remained the same.  All cables are solid to the tug,
and it all works fine in FreeBSD, so far (no errors
in the logs or to console, although it hasn't really
been stressed yet).

Is this normal?  I'm thinking it isn't, since I
cannot seem to find anyone complaining about it on
any message boards.  Or is this kind of startup
time considered normal nowadays?  4+ minutes of
hardware booting, followed by 25 seconds of FreeBSD
booting seems ridiculous...

Thanks for any advice or pointers!
   -bkc

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Re: Can't burn cds

[Pollywog]

I had trouble getting CD burning to work, but the FreeBSD Handbook had the 
info I needed to get it to work.  I had to modify my fstab and in order to 
use k3b, I had to mount the CD on the command line first.  It won't work if 
the CD is not mounted first, it's not as easy as it is in Linux, but it 
works.

The pertinent sections of my fstab:

/dev/acd0   /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto   0   0
/dev/cd0  /usr/home/pollywog/cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto,nodev,nosuid  0  0

I also had to add myself (my username) to the operator group.  To make it more 
convenient, I added an alias in my ~/.bash_aliases:

alias mountcd='mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 ~/cdrom'
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RE: RALUS for Linux - authentication failing

[Ian Lord]

On Thursday 26 July 2007 12:18:52 pm John Nielsen wrote:
> I'm trying to get the latest Linux remote agent for Backup Exec to run on
a
> FreeBSD-amd64 machine. The exact version is RALUS-11d.7170.2, although I
> suspect any 10.0 - 11d version would be the same.
>
> After trying a few things (including installing on a real Linux host) I
was
> able to identify and extract the files containing the two rpm's that are
> actually installed. I ran those through rpm2cpio and got a simple
directory
> layout. I duplicated the directory structure and config file from the
Linux
> host and ran the main executable. (The init script tries (and fails, even
> after I fixed all the hardcoded paths) to do some housekeeping, but none
of
> it is necessary for the thing to actually run.)
>
> The executable seems to run okay and the host even shows up as a Unix
> target on the (Windows) Backup Exec server, but I'm unable to
authenticate,
> preventing me from doing any backups. I've used the agent on other Linux
> and Solaris hosts successfully, and it generally just takes the OS root
(or
> other user in the beoper group) password, without a need to set any
> ralus-specific passwords anywhere.
>
> Has anyone else gotten this to work on FreeBSD? If not, can anyone tell me
> (or speculate) what method the agent uses / might use to authenticate
> users?
>
> I was able to enable logging, so I know it sees the login attempt but it
> can't verify the password:
>
> 18006 Thu Jul 26 11:51:16 2007 : LogonUser failed for user: root because
> LogonUser: The input password does not match the OS password

I ended up going with the "legacy" agent for Linux for now. The install
script 
actually ran okay except for installing the startup script (which I had to 
edit anyway), and the agent seems to be running fine. It uses its own 
password and authentication so I didn't have the problem I did with the 
modern RALUS.

I'm still open to any input but I probably won't be spending more time on 
getting the modern agent working if I don't have any new ideas.

Thanks,

~~~
Hi John,

Do you know the difference between the legacy and new one in term of
functionalities ?

Also, is the legacy agent an option during the installation of ralus ? I
don't remember having that option in backup exec 10

Regards

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Re: Can't burn cds

[Josh Paetzel]

Paul Schmehl wrote:
> Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction.
> 
> uname -v
> FreeBSD 6.0-SECURITY #0: Wed Feb 14 12:22:36 UTC 2007 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> 
> grep cd /var/run/dmesg.boot
> acd0: DVDROM  at ata0-master UDMA33
> acd1: CDRW  at ata0-slave UDMA33
> 
> camcontrol devlist
>  at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass0)
> 
> camcontrol inquiry 0:0:0
> pass0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device
> pass0: Serial Number 2CAH3H6P
> pass0: 40.000MB/s transfers
> 
> camcontrol inquiry 0:1:0
> camcontrol: cam_open_btl: no passthrough device found at 0:1:0
> 
> camcontrol inquiry da0
> pass0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device
> pass0: Serial Number 2CAH3H6P
> pass0: 40.000MB/s transfers
> 
> camcontrol inquiry da1
> camcontrol: cam_lookup_pass: CAMGETPASSTHRU ioctl failed
> cam_lookup_pass: No such file or directory
> cam_lookup_pass: either the pass driver isn't in your kernel
> cam_lookup_pass: or da1 doesn't exist
> 
> ls /dev/acd*
> /dev/acd0   /dev/acd1
> 
> cdcontrol -f /dev/acd1
> Compact Disc Control utility, version 2.0
> Type `?' for command list
> 
> cdcontrol> eject
> cdcontrol> close
> cdcontrol> info
> cdcontrol: getting toc header: Input/output error
> cdcontrol: Input/output error
> 
> burncd -ef /dev/acd1 data 
> /home/pauls/Downloads/RedHat/RHEL4-U5-x86_64-ES-disc1.iso fixate
> burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCWRITESPEED): Input/output error
> 
> What the heck is going on?  The device is there.  Dmesg shows that the kernel 
> knows what it is.  Yet I can't read or write cds, and, as you can see, 
> camcontrol thinks it's non-existant.  Yet cdcontrol will open and close the 
> drive but can't provide any info???  What am I missing?
> 
> -- 
> Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

camcontrol isn't going to know anything about IDE devices, it only
knows about SCSI.

It's hard to see without the propmpts, but are you trying to use
burncd as root?  A normal user isn't going to have the neccessary
privs. to write a cd by default.

cdcontrol is simply telling you it can't read the TOC of the cd in the
drive, presumably because there's no cd in it.  I haven't used
cdcontrol in ages, but it's possible it needs root (in the case that
you were using it as a normal user with a disk in the drive)

-- 
Thanks,

Josh Paetzel
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Redirect Incoming port 80 connections to port 8080.

[Jeff Hedley]

I am having a problem getting a Dansguardian + Squid transparent
proxying system going for a client.  The following is what i want to do,
but cannot figure out how to get it working using ipfw + natd:


[Host]  -  10.0.0.150/24 - sends request to router google.com:80
  |
  |
  |
  v
[Router]  -  10.0.0.1/24 - receives request for google.com:80 but sets
  |  proxy server as next hop for transparent proxy purposes.
  |- Not transparently proxyed yet.
  |
  v
[FreeBSD Proxy] - 10.0.0.2/24 - receives request for google.com:80
  | - request gets transparently proxied to 10.0.0.2:8080
  |   (this is the part I don't know how to do).
  | - runs through Dans, then Squid.
  | - Squid sends request out to router again.
  | - Outing squid requests get NATed to 10.0.0.2 (also
  |   don't know how to do this).
  |
  v
[Router]  -  10.0.0.1/24 - receives the request for google.com again,
  |  but request is allowed through since it's coming from
  |  10.0.0.2.
  |
  v
(interweb)

Can you tell me how I would setup the FreeBSD box to do what i want
using ipfw and natd?

--
Jeff Hedley
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Re: ssh X11 forwarding not working on FreeBSD 6.2 (SOLVED)

[Terry Todd]

The cause of this problem, 

$ xhost
Xlib: connection to "localhost:10.0" refused by server
Xlib: PuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authentication protocol attempted
xhost:  unable to open display "localhost:10.0"

was that the hostname on the FreeBSD system was blank.  Once I set
the hostname it works fine.  In fact you don't even need to turn
on any of the options in the sshd_config or ssh_config files.

Who woulda thunk it.  I figured it out by trying it on 2 other
FreeBSD systems that did work and comparing how they worked to the
one that didn't.

Try it on your systems and I'll bet you see the same thing.

Terry Todd


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Re: awk question

[Martin McCormick]

Don Hinton writes:
> On Thursday 26 July 2007 15:26:02 Peter Boosten wrote:
> > P.U.Kruppa wrote:
> > > > awk '{print $(NF-1)}' user.csv

Yup, those blank lines will kill it for sure. A sed filter to
remove blank lines ahead of the awk statement should allow it to
work properly.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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Re: make and gmake on FreeBSD

[Dima Sorkin]

Hi.
Thank you very much. See below.
Regards, Dima.

On 7/27/07, Nikola Lecic  wrote:


No, make (BSD make) is a part of FreeBSD, gmake (GNU make) is a
third-party application, available through devel/gmake port.
They _are_ different.

Yes, I forgot there was an alias. See at the bottom of the message.


> and only with "gmake" I succeed to build serious projects.

This is very interesting observation, could you expand on this?


Well, I don't want to make claims without basis, as it is based only
on my memories :).
I so completely switched to gmake during the winter that I even forgot
I have an alias.

I didn't succeeded to compile projects from my univ studies, but I
afraid I use all those gnu extensions. I _think_ I didn't succeeded to
compile the DEAL.II lib without gmake.
These are projects that don't use the "recursive make" paradigm, at least not in
all places. They "-include" makefiles from lower hierarchies, but I
afraid gnu extension
sit there in every place. Not shure, though ...


[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ /usr/bin/make --version
make: illegal option -- -
usage: make [-BPSXeiknqrstv] [-C directory] [-D variable]
   [-d flags] [-E variable] [-f makefile] [-I directory]
   [-j max_jobs] [-m directory] [-V variable]
   [variable=value] [target ...]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ alias make
alias make='gmake'
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Re: Can't burn cds

[Bruce Caruthers]

On Thu Jul 26, 2007, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction.
>
[...]
>
> burncd -ef /dev/acd1 data
> /home/pauls/Downloads/RedHat/RHEL4-U5-x86_64-ES-disc1.iso fixate
> burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCWRITESPEED): Input/output error
>
> What the heck is going on?  The device is there.  Dmesg shows that the
> kernel knows what it is.  Yet I can't read or write cds, and, as you can
> see, camcontrol thinks it's non-existant.  Yet cdcontrol will open and
> close the drive but can't provide any info???  What am I missing?


Well, I'm using 6.2-RELEASE/amd64, and I get those same
"Input/ouput error" messages.  However, the discs I have
burned all worked fine, so I've assumed it was just
something the program tries to test for or request info
on, but can continue without.

Have you checked whether the burned discs actually work?

Cheers,
   -bkc
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Can't burn cds

[Paul Schmehl]

Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction.

uname -v
FreeBSD 6.0-SECURITY #0: Wed Feb 14 12:22:36 UTC 2007 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC


grep cd /var/run/dmesg.boot
acd0: DVDROM  at ata0-master UDMA33
acd1: CDRW  at ata0-slave UDMA33

camcontrol devlist
 at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass0)

camcontrol inquiry 0:0:0
pass0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device
pass0: Serial Number 2CAH3H6P
pass0: 40.000MB/s transfers

camcontrol inquiry 0:1:0
camcontrol: cam_open_btl: no passthrough device found at 0:1:0

camcontrol inquiry da0
pass0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device
pass0: Serial Number 2CAH3H6P
pass0: 40.000MB/s transfers

camcontrol inquiry da1
camcontrol: cam_lookup_pass: CAMGETPASSTHRU ioctl failed
cam_lookup_pass: No such file or directory
cam_lookup_pass: either the pass driver isn't in your kernel
cam_lookup_pass: or da1 doesn't exist

ls /dev/acd*
/dev/acd0   /dev/acd1

cdcontrol -f /dev/acd1
Compact Disc Control utility, version 2.0
Type `?' for command list

cdcontrol> eject
cdcontrol> close
cdcontrol> info
cdcontrol: getting toc header: Input/output error
cdcontrol: Input/output error

burncd -ef /dev/acd1 data 
/home/pauls/Downloads/RedHat/RHEL4-U5-x86_64-ES-disc1.iso fixate

burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCWRITESPEED): Input/output error

What the heck is going on?  The device is there.  Dmesg shows that the 
kernel knows what it is.  Yet I can't read or write cds, and, as you can 
see, camcontrol thinks it's non-existant.  Yet cdcontrol will open and 
close the drive but can't provide any info???  What am I missing?


--
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Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/

Re: awk question

[Don Hinton]

On Thursday 26 July 2007 15:26:02 Peter Boosten wrote:
> P.U.Kruppa wrote:
> > Hi (and sorry for this slightly OT question),
> >
> > I would like to extract the second last field of each line of a file
> > called user.csv .
> > So I try
> >
> > > awk '{print $(NF-1)}' user.csv
> >
> > awk: trying to access out of range field -1
> >  input record number 1, file user.csv
> >  source line number 1
> >
> > Obviously $(NF-1) doesn't do the trick. Any better idea?
>
> Hmmm, works for me it does...

Me too, except of course if the first line of user.cvs is blank...

>
> Peter



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Re: ssh X11 forwarding not working on FreeBSD 6.2

[Terry Todd]

On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 08:35:48PM -0700, Michael S. Eubanks wrote:
...
> Glad to hear you got it working - you are right though.  Here's a quick
> link.
> 
> http://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/adminguide/32/X11_Forwarding.html
> 
> Considerring the client uses a special local display setting, would it
> work to set the environment variables in PuTTY itself, although, that
> would seem to be manual again.  With respect to X, check out the xauth
> man page.  I'm curious as to whether the xauth file needs to exist in
> the user's home directory.  I think the instructions (pictures) showed a
> key being added to the PuTTY session config.

Micahel,

Well, actually I did not get anything working at all that I set
out to try and get working.  I set out to try and get X11 forwarding
working but still have not accomplished it.

Any setting of the DISPLAY variable either manually or from PuTTY
to anything other than what ssh sets it to bypasses encryption
provided by ssh and doesn't solve the problem.

Anyone else have any ideas?

Terry Todd



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Re: RALUS for Linux - authentication failing

[John Nielsen]

On Thursday 26 July 2007 12:18:52 pm John Nielsen wrote:
> I'm trying to get the latest Linux remote agent for Backup Exec to run on a
> FreeBSD-amd64 machine. The exact version is RALUS-11d.7170.2, although I
> suspect any 10.0 - 11d version would be the same.
>
> After trying a few things (including installing on a real Linux host) I was
> able to identify and extract the files containing the two rpm's that are
> actually installed. I ran those through rpm2cpio and got a simple directory
> layout. I duplicated the directory structure and config file from the Linux
> host and ran the main executable. (The init script tries (and fails, even
> after I fixed all the hardcoded paths) to do some housekeeping, but none of
> it is necessary for the thing to actually run.)
>
> The executable seems to run okay and the host even shows up as a Unix
> target on the (Windows) Backup Exec server, but I'm unable to authenticate,
> preventing me from doing any backups. I've used the agent on other Linux
> and Solaris hosts successfully, and it generally just takes the OS root (or
> other user in the beoper group) password, without a need to set any
> ralus-specific passwords anywhere.
>
> Has anyone else gotten this to work on FreeBSD? If not, can anyone tell me
> (or speculate) what method the agent uses / might use to authenticate
> users?
>
> I was able to enable logging, so I know it sees the login attempt but it
> can't verify the password:
>
> 18006 Thu Jul 26 11:51:16 2007 : LogonUser failed for user: root because
> LogonUser: The input password does not match the OS password

I ended up going with the "legacy" agent for Linux for now. The install script 
actually ran okay except for installing the startup script (which I had to 
edit anyway), and the agent seems to be running fine. It uses its own 
password and authentication so I didn't have the problem I did with the 
modern RALUS.

I'm still open to any input but I probably won't be spending more time on 
getting the modern agent working if I don't have any new ideas.

Thanks,

JN
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Re: make and gmake on FreeBSD

[Andrew Falanga]

On 7/26/07, Dima Sorkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi.
 I have a FreeBSD 6.2, installed it from the distribution disks, no
changes by me.

There is a "make" and a "gmake" installed on it. They report that they
are the same programm, but in fact they behave completely different.
In fact only "gmake" behaves
like "GNU make" should behave and only with "gmake"
I succeed to build serious projects.

 What happens here ?  What I the "make", where did it come from ?

How do I cause to system "make" behave as "gmake" ?

Thanks, regards,
 Dima.

P.S.  see their output:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ make --version
GNU Make 3.81
Copyright (C) 2006  Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

This program built for i386-portbld-freebsd6.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ gmake --version
GNU Make 3.81
Copyright (C) 2006  Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.


make is BSD make, gmake is GNU make (hence the reason it behaves like
GNU make :-).  Others from this list can give you a more in-depth
discussion of the differences.  It's odd that you get the same results
as shown above.  BSD make doesn't have a --version option.  I would
suspect you have an alias, or something similar, setup to "link" make
to gmake.

I've used gmake "extensively" for my projects, but never BSD make.  I
believe that BSD make is the version use by many of the ports
packages, and most definitely by the system build environment.  Please
note that many of the ports use gmake as well.

Andy
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Re: make and gmake on FreeBSD

[Nikola Lecic]

Hello,

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:26:28 +0300
"Dima Sorkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi.
>  I have a FreeBSD 6.2, installed it from the distribution disks, no
> changes by me.
> 
> There is a "make" and a "gmake" installed on it.

No, make (BSD make) is a part of FreeBSD, gmake (GNU make) is a
third-party application, available through devel/gmake port.

> They report that they are the same programm, but in fact they behave
> completely different.

They _are_ different.

> In fact only "gmake" behaves like "GNU make" should behave

gmake = GNU make.

> and only with "gmake" I succeed to build serious projects.

This is very interesting observation, could you expand on this?

>  What happens here ?  What I the "make", where did it come from ?

Nothing, it happens that you installed FreeBSD. The better question is
where GNU make came from :)

> How do I cause to system "make" behave as "gmake" ?

Why would you like to do it?

> P.S.  see their output:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ make --version
> GNU Make 3.81
> Copyright (C) 2006  Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
> There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
> PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

This is not default behaviour in FreeBSD.
 
Nikola Lečić
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Re: make and gmake on FreeBSD

[Yuri Pankov]

On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:26:28PM +0300, Dima Sorkin wrote:
> Hi.
> I have a FreeBSD 6.2, installed it from the distribution disks, no
> changes by me.
>
> There is a "make" and a "gmake" installed on it. They report that they
> are the same programm, but in fact they behave completely different.
> In fact only "gmake" behaves
> like "GNU make" should behave and only with "gmake"
> I succeed to build serious projects.
>
> What happens here ?  What I the "make", where did it come from ?
>
> How do I cause to system "make" behave as "gmake" ?
>
> Thanks, regards,
> Dima.
>
> P.S.  see their output:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ make --version
> GNU Make 3.81
> Copyright (C) 2006  Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
> There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
> PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
>
> This program built for i386-portbld-freebsd6.2
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ gmake --version
> GNU Make 3.81
> Copyright (C) 2006  Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
> There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
> PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
>
> This program built for i386-portbld-freebsd6.2
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ which make
> /usr/bin/make
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ which gmake
> /usr/local/bin/gmake
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ diff /usr/bin/make /usr/local/bin/gmake
> Binary files /usr/bin/make and /usr/local/bin/gmake differ
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$

Don't you have shell alias make -> gmake, by chance? Try running system
make using full path.


Yuri


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make and gmake on FreeBSD

[Dima Sorkin]

Hi.
I have a FreeBSD 6.2, installed it from the distribution disks, no
changes by me.

There is a "make" and a "gmake" installed on it. They report that they
are the same programm, but in fact they behave completely different.
In fact only "gmake" behaves
like "GNU make" should behave and only with "gmake"
I succeed to build serious projects.

What happens here ?  What I the "make", where did it come from ?

How do I cause to system "make" behave as "gmake" ?

Thanks, regards,
Dima.

P.S.  see their output:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ make --version
GNU Make 3.81
Copyright (C) 2006  Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

This program built for i386-portbld-freebsd6.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ gmake --version
GNU Make 3.81
Copyright (C) 2006  Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

This program built for i386-portbld-freebsd6.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ which make
/usr/bin/make
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ which gmake
/usr/local/bin/gmake
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$ diff /usr/bin/make /usr/local/bin/gmake
Binary files /usr/bin/make and /usr/local/bin/gmake differ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/home/dsorkin]$
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Re: awk question

[P.U.Kruppa]

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Peter Boosten wrote:




P.U.Kruppa wrote:

Hi (and sorry for this slightly OT question),

I would like to extract the second last field of each line of a file
called user.csv .
So I try
   > awk '{print $(NF-1)}' user.csv
awk: trying to access out of range field -1
 input record number 1, file user.csv
 source line number 1

Obviously $(NF-1) doesn't do the trick. Any better idea?



Hmmm, works for me it does...

Sorry: Actually the first line of my user.csv was empty.

Thanks though,

Uli.




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Re: awk question

[Peter Boosten]

P.U.Kruppa wrote:
> Hi (and sorry for this slightly OT question),
> 
> I would like to extract the second last field of each line of a file
> called user.csv .
> So I try
> > awk '{print $(NF-1)}' user.csv
> awk: trying to access out of range field -1
>  input record number 1, file user.csv
>  source line number 1
> 
> Obviously $(NF-1) doesn't do the trick. Any better idea?
> 

Hmmm, works for me it does...

Peter
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awk question

[P.U.Kruppa]

Hi (and sorry for this slightly OT question),

I would like to extract the second last field of each line of a 
file called user.csv .

So I try
> awk '{print $(NF-1)}' user.csv
awk: trying to access out of range field -1
input record number 1, file user.csv
source line number 1

Obviously $(NF-1) doesn't do the trick. Any better idea?

Thanks,

Uli.



Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Wuppertal
Germany

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Re: pf and keep/modulate state on 6.2

[Jordan Gordeev]

Max Laier wrote:


On Saturday 21 July 2007, Jordan Gordeev wrote:


I'm replying to an old and long-forgotten thread to report my recent
findings.
There's a bug in PF with modulate/synproxy state. Modulate/synproxy
state modulate sequence numbers, but don't modulate sequence numbers in
TCP SACK options. Some firewalls block TCP segments with sequence
numbers in the SACK option pointing outside the window, which causes
connection stalls. The bug was fixed in OpenBSD with revision 1.509 of
src/sys/net/pf.c about an year and a half ago. The bug is present in
FreeBSD-STABLE. A fix for the bug was imported in FreeBSD-CURRENT with
the big import of PF from OpenBSD 4.1.
I'm CC-ing Max to notify him of the bug present in -STABLE and to ask
him to deal with the issue by either porting the fix from OpenBSD, or
by documenting that modulate/synproxy state is broken.
   



Good catch - sorry for the delay.  Here is the diff (almost verbatim from 
OPENBSD_3_8).  Please test and report back.  I plan to commit this to 
RELENG_6 in a bit.


 

The patch fixed the problem I was having with modulate state and SACK on 
my lightly loaded personal NAT box.

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Re: Sendmail question

[Matthew Seaman]

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Dylan Smith wrote:
> Eric Crist wrote:
>> On Jul 26, 2007, at 4:54 AMJul 26, 2007, Dylan Smith wrote:
>>
>>> I am currently on the last stages of setting up a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE
>>> File and Network Application Server. One of my last tasks is to
>>> simple forward all mail from root out through my isp's SMTP(requires
>>> authentication) server and to an email account i have elsewhere. That
>>> is to say i have no purpose for a mail server other than to handle
>>> mail from things like periodic and to move that mail elsewhere.
>>>
>>> Can this be easily accomplished? If so are there any guides/how-to's?
>>> I have done a search around my usual BSD sites and books and found
>>> nothing that is easily modified to my circumstances.

>> It can be done, but it's a PITA with Sendmail.  Look into
>> /usr/ports/mail/ssmtp.  We use it on our systems here where we need to
>> simply get root's email off the box.  Simple configuration file, works
>> well.

> Thanks for that little suggestion.
> Would this mean that i could just disable sendmail
> totally(sendmail_enable="none")?

Hmmm... no one seems to have cottoned onto the 'requires
authentication' statement in the original message.  As far as I can
tell, ssmtp only allows authentication via the use of cryptographic
certificates -- which is probably the most secure way of doing
authentication but also tends not to be supported on many mail
systems.

If you need support for most client-side mail auth mechanisms, then
sendmail is probably the least effort to set up -- and it is not
really that hard to do IMHO.

All you need to do is:

   * Make sure /etc/rc.conf contains

   sendmail_enable="NO"

 Which might seem a bit odd, but actually gives you a setup with
 no sendmail listening on port 25 (so no incoming mail), but
 with everything it needs to send outgoing mail.

   * edit /etc/mail/aliases to direct the root e-mails to where ever
 you want them to go to.

   * run 'make' in /etc/mail to rebuild the aliases.db file and copy
 the default sendmail configuration to `hostname`.mc etc.
 (`hostname` there means "whatever the hostname command
 outputs" on your machine.)

   * edit `hostname`.mc and change the line that says:

dnl define(`SMART_HOST', `your.isp.mail.server')

 Take out the 'dnl' part and change your.isp.mail.server to the
 hostname of your ISP's mail server.

 For security reasons (ie. to stop people being able to
 trivially find out the login and password details) you should
 also change this line at the end of the file from:

define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,noexpn,novrfy')

 to

define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,noexpn,novrfy,goaway')

 Then run:

make all install restart

 to generate the .cf files, move them into place and restart the
 running sendmail.

   * edit /etc/mail/access to add the login details for your ISP's
 mail server.  Look for the section titled "Providing SMTP AUTH
 Data when sendmail acts as Client" in the file
 /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README for details. In short if all
 you have is a username and password then add a line like:

AuthInfo:your.isp.mail.server "U:user" "P:password"

 Then type 'make' one last time.

That's all really, apart from testing.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Drive concatenation...Which tool to use?

[Reid Linnemann]

Written by Roger Olofsson on 07/26/07 12:59>>



John Nielsen skrev:

On Wednesday 25 July 2007, Josh Tolbert wrote:

I've got a friend that wants to use a FreeBSD box for a file server. He
has a huge pile of drives of different sizes, but he wants them all as
one big file system. What's the appropriate tool for this? gstripe
doesn't seem like it'd be smart to use with differently-sized drives. Is
gvinum up to snuff and stable enough to use? Is ccd still supported? 
What

would be your tool of choice?


gconcat, perhaps?

JN
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Gconcat looks mighty cool, will it be able to concat two devices that
already have existing filesystems on them and retain these? Say that ad0
has /usr and ad1 has /home will gconcat preserve these after concat:ing
ad0 with ad1?



No. The gmirror device will not have had a label written to describe 
where on the gmirror device those partitions exist. The data will still 
be there, but you'll have to do some magic on the gmirror label to 
describe where they are.


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Re: Upgrade xorg 6.9 to 72

[Adam J Richardson]

Speaking of failing to upgrade Xorg from 6.9 to 7.2, has anyone else 
encountered the error


configure: error: cannot find GL library - make sure Mesa or other 
OpenGL package is installed


while building the port "xdriinfo"? I've tried building Mesa 7.0 by hand 
and copying files into the appropriate dirs [following the instructions 
at http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building], but no luck.


X seems to work perfectly well without xdriinfo [since this machine's 
way too old for even the most efficient of triangle-pushing games :D ], 
but I hate having a stale dependency in my ports database.


[Apologies if this was asked already - I haven't read the list for a while.]

Adam J Richardson

ps.

monju-bosatsu# uname -a
FreeBSD monju-bosatsu.dreamtrack.dnsalias.com 6.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 
6.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Thu Apr 19 12:37:39 BST 2007 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONJU  i386


Failed command:
monju-bosatsu# portinstall xdriinfo
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Re: Drive concatenation...Which tool to use?

[Josh Tolbert]

On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 07:59:35PM +0200, Roger Olofsson wrote:
> Gconcat looks mighty cool, will it be able to concat two devices that
> already have existing filesystems on them and retain these? Say that ad0
> has /usr and ad1 has /home will gconcat preserve these after concat:ing
> ad0 with ad1?

I believe geom/gconcat works below the file system level, so most likely not.

Thanks,

Josh
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Re: Upgrade xorg 6.9 to 72

[RW]

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:25:16 +0200
Martin Schweizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello RW
> 
> Am Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 09:23:14PM +0100 RW schrieb:
> 
> > > > > I read UPDATING and did all the steps described there. 
> > > > 
> > > > No, you didn't because /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/Makefile
> > > > contains a little test to make sure you have read UPDATING.
> > > 
> > > No, it's not correct. I followed the steps from top to down.
> > > Since I have no gstreamer ports (I did not find any) I used
> > > portupgrade -a. After this I get the output as I send before.
> > > Yes, I checked also the .../xorg-libraries/Makefile and saw the if
> > > loop. I now too that after portupgrade -a went I need further
> > > steps too (symlinks etc.). Since I'm not 100% shure that this
> > > output is correct I wrote this mail. So if I do something wrong
> > > please give me a hint where I did something wrong. Any hints are
> > > welcome.
> > 
> > 
> > You haven't mentioned setting XORG_UPGRADE.
> 
> I've checked of course the environment. I set both variables setenv
> BATCH yes and setenv XORG_UPGRADE yes.
> 
> [snip]
> ===>  Cleaning for xorg-libraries-7.2_1
> Read /usr/ports/UPDATING for the procedure to upgrade or install xorg
> 7.2. *** Error code 1
> ...
> The only one I saw is the above line but I have no idea what this
> mean. Do you have any ideas?

Yes, the xorg-libraries Makefile tests that you have set XORG_UPGRADE
and will abort if you haven't. If XORG_UPGRADE is set then it isn't
possible for this error to be seen. 

The point of the test is make sure that no-one upgrades xorg without
reading UPDATING.
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Re: RALUS for Linux - authentication failing

[John Nielsen]

On Thursday 26 July 2007 03:08:55 pm Jonathan Horne wrote:
> are you sure that all the executables are all running correctly?  for my
> veritas netbackup agent, 'ldd' revealed that i was missing some older .so
> files, which once i took care of those, the whole thing ran like clockwork
> for me.

The only executable that needs to run AFAICT is "beremote", and I see in its 
log output where it is contacting the backup server and attempting to process 
login attempts.

I also see a list of libraries in its startup output, some of which it says 
were loaded and many of which "could not be loaded". However all of the 
library names begin "libbe" (backup exec, I assume), and the ones that are 
loading are present in the ralus directory.

file(1) identifies beremote as a dynamically linked Linux ELF executable, but 
ldd(1) can't read it. I don't appear to have a Linux ldd program installed, 
would that help?

Thanks for the input.

JN
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Re: ACPI slowing CPU... or something else

[youshi10]

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, V.I.Victor wrote:


On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Manolis Kiagias wrote:


V.I.Victor wrote: I was wondering about the "truth-of-clockspeed."



Perhaps the 1800-MHz only applies to CPU internal cache, etc. while
the external bus-clocking is down at 500-MHz or so.  Sounds like a
typical marketing ploy!

About disabling the ACPI...  Can I do it *safely* via the remote-ssh
connection?  Or do I need to be at the box w/ keyboard and monitor?
What I've read makes it seem that the ACPI is set at boot-time.


If you don't mind rebooting the remote machine, add:

hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"

to /boot/device.hints and reboot


Although I've re-booted remotely, I've never done it after a boot modification. 
 It's probably prudent to wait 'til the weekend to try this -- mistakes are 
easier to deal with!

Thanks for the info.


All that rebooting remotely in this case will result in is ACPI being disabled 
:).. you should be able to disable ACPI from the BIOS as well, if you like.

-Garrett

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Re: RALUS for Linux - authentication failing

[Jonathan Horne]

are you sure that all the executables are all running correctly?  for my 
veritas netbackup agent, 'ldd' revealed that i was missing some older .so 
files, which once i took care of those, the whole thing ran like clockwork 
for me.
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Re: Upgrade xorg 6.9 to 72

[Martin Schweizer]

Hello RW

Am Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 09:23:14PM +0100 RW schrieb:

> > > > I read UPDATING and did all the steps described there. 
> > > 
> > > No, you didn't because /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries/Makefile
> > > contains a little test to make sure you have read UPDATING.
> > 
> > No, it's not correct. I followed the steps from top to down. Since I
> > have no gstreamer ports (I did not find any) I used portupgrade -a.
> > After this I get the output as I send before.
> > Yes, I checked also the .../xorg-libraries/Makefile and saw the if
> > loop. I now too that after portupgrade -a went I need further steps
> > too (symlinks etc.). Since I'm not 100% shure that this output is
> > correct I wrote this mail. So if I do something wrong please give me
> > a hint where I did something wrong. Any hints are welcome.
> 
> 
> You haven't mentioned setting XORG_UPGRADE.

I've checked of course the environment. I set both variables setenv BATCH 
yes and setenv XORG_UPGRADE yes.

[snip]
===>  Cleaning for xorg-libraries-7.2_1
Read /usr/ports/UPDATING for the procedure to upgrade or install xorg 7.2.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.83788.90 
env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1 
UPGRADE_PORT_VER=6.9.0_1 make
** Fix the problem and try again.

The only one I saw is the above line but I have no idea what this mean. Do you 
have any ideas?


--->  Skipping 'x11/xterm' (xterm-224) because a requisite package 
'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'audio/nas' (nas-1.8) because a requisite package 
'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'x11-toolkits/qt33' (qt-3.3.7_1) because a requisite package 
'nas-1.8' (audio/nas) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'x11-toolkits/tk84' (tk-8.4.14_2,2) because a requisite package 
'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'devel/dbus' (dbus-1.0.2) because a requisite package 
'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'java/diablo-jdk15' (diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_3) because a 
requisite package 'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed 
(specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'x11-servers/xorg-vfbserver' (xorg-vfbserver-6.9.0_2) because a 
requisite package 'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed 
(specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'graphics/libwmf' (libwmf-0.2.8.4) because a requisite package 
'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'x11-toolkits/gtk12' (gtk-1.2.10_17) because a requisite 
package 'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed (specify -k to 
force)
--->  Skipping 'x11-fonts/xfs' (xorg-fontserver-6.9.0_1) because a requisite 
package 'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed (specify -k to 
force)
--->  Skipping 'print/ghostscript-gnu' (ghostscript-gnu-7.07_15) because a 
requisite package 'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed 
(specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'x11-fonts/urwfonts' (urwfonts-1.0_1) because a requisite 
package 'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed (specify -k to 
force)
--->  Skipping 'graphics/dri' (dri-6.4.1,2) because a requisite package 
'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'x11-servers/xorg-nestserver' (xorg-nestserver-6.9.0_1) because 
a requisite package 'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed 
(specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'devel/apache-ant' (apache-ant-1.7.0) because a requisite 
package 'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed (specify -k to 
force)
--->  Skipping 'devel/dbus-glib' (dbus-glib-0.73) because a requisite package 
'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'x11-servers/xorg-printserver' (xorg-printserver-6.9.0_2) 
because a requisite package 'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) 
failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'graphics/libglut' (libglut-6.4.2) because a requisite package 
'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'devel/dbus-qt3' (dbus-qt3-0.70) because a requisite package 
'nas-1.8' (audio/nas) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'x11-servers/xorg-server' (xorg-server-6.9.0_6) because a 
requisite package 'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed 
(specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'misc/gnomehier' (gnomehier-2.2) because a requisite package 
'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'misc/gnome-mime-data' (gnome-mime-data-2.18.0) because a 
requisite package 'xorg-libraries-6.9.0_1' (x11/xorg-libraries) failed 
(specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'graphics/GraphicsMagick' (GraphicsMagick-1.1.7) because a 
requisite package 

Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150

[Eduardo Meyer]

On 7/26/07, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:55:48AM -0300, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>  I have the same situation here, but not the same hardware:
>
>  atapci0:  port
>  0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3020-0x302f mem
>  0xe820-0xe82003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0
>
>  ad0: 76319MB  at ata0-master SATA150
>
>  This drive is withtout the jumper, which according to the manual means
>  it should operate as SATA300 (while with jumper plugged, it is limited
>  to SATA150). But it is only controlled as SATA150.

A few things (I'm not doubting your claim of a problem, just trying to
track it down):


Thank you a lot for asking.



1) What FreeBSD version and build date?  uname -a would suffice.


It is: 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #2: Sun Jun 24 23:37:46 BRT 2007



2) What controller (atapciX) is mapped to ata0?  You didn't include this
in your dmesg output.


atapci0:  port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3020-0x302f mem
0xe820-0xe82003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0
ata0:  on atapci0
ata1:  on atapci0




3) Output of atacontrol cap ad0?


# atacontrol cap ad0

Protocol  Serial ATA II
device model  SAMSUNG HD080HJ
serial number S0JRJ56P629171
firmware revision ZH100-47
cylinders 16383
heads 16
sectors/track 63
lba supported 156301488 sectors
lba48 supported   156301488 sectors
dma supported
overlap not supported

Feature  Support  EnableValue   Vendor
write cacheyes  yes
read ahead yes  yes
Native Command Queuing (NCQ)   yes   -  31/0x1F
Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ)   no   no  31/0x1F
SMART  yes  yes
microcode download yes  yes
security   yes  no
power management   yes  yes
advanced power management  no   no  0/0x00
automatic acoustic management  yes  no  0/0x00  254/0xFE




4) Is your motherboard set to use AHCI for the SATA (ICH7) controller?
There's reports that SATA300 is only available/used on some controllers
when AHCI is used.


I dont know. I could not find such a similar option on BIOS, so I dont
know how to check it. Is it possible to be checked from system?



5) This drive isn't available in the United States, so I'll have to go
off of foreign docs.  AUS docs don't show this drive as having any such
jumper, but the docs are sparse:


It is made in Korea.



http://www.samsung.com/au/support/productsupport/download/Model_Select.aspx?type=Hard+Disk+Drive&typecode=12&subtype=HDD%283%2E5%29&cmssubtypecode=1203&model=HD080HJ&filetype=UM

6) Have you tried following the opposite the documentation you have
recommends?  That is: try putting the jumper on and see if SATA300
is negotiated?  Or is it SATA150 regardless of the jumper setting?


Yes, but no difference.


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Re: Drive concatenation...Which tool to use?

[Roger Olofsson]

John Nielsen skrev:

On Wednesday 25 July 2007, Josh Tolbert wrote:

I've got a friend that wants to use a FreeBSD box for a file server. He
has a huge pile of drives of different sizes, but he wants them all as
one big file system. What's the appropriate tool for this? gstripe
doesn't seem like it'd be smart to use with differently-sized drives. Is
gvinum up to snuff and stable enough to use? Is ccd still supported? What
would be your tool of choice?


gconcat, perhaps?

JN
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Gconcat looks mighty cool, will it be able to concat two devices that
already have existing filesystems on them and retain these? Say that ad0
has /usr and ad1 has /home will gconcat preserve these after concat:ing
ad0 with ad1?

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Re: usb driver for use with kmobiletools and nokia

[Adam J Richardson]

Ronald Klop wrote:

Hello,

I have a Nokia phone which I want to manage by using kmobiletools.
If I connect the phone with usb I can access MicroSD card of the phone 
with umass, so the connection is ok. But if I choose the 'PC Suite' mode 
on the phone the ugen driver is attached. The phone also show up in 
usbdevs.
I tried loading the umodem driver, but it doesn't attach. Kmobiletools 
needs a tty to access the phone as a modem.


Does anybody how to attach a phone by USB?

Ronald.



Hi Ronald,

I don't know much about it, but perhaps my scraps of information would 
help. I've been investigating OpenSync and OpenOBEX. Both appear to be 
dead ends - obexftp has been removed from the ports tree and I hear the 
latest MultiSync doesn't use OpenSync anyway.


If you can find it, the "obexftp" package is supposed to do the Nokia/PC 
connection thing pretty much automatically.


I found a post on a forum telling a user to add these lines to usbd.conf 
 [under the "Handspring Visor" entry] and then restart usbd:


device "Nokia"
devname "ugen[0-9]*"
attach "chmod 0666 /dev/ugen*"

Didn't help me, but perhaps it'll help you. Another bit of advice was to 
recompile the kernel with "device ucom", but that might be a bit out of 
date since the GENERIC config contains pretty much everything now.


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Re: ACPI slowing CPU... or something else

[V.I.Victor]

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Manolis Kiagias wrote:

> V.I.Victor wrote: I was wondering about the "truth-of-clockspeed."

>> Perhaps the 1800-MHz only applies to CPU internal cache, etc. while
>> the external bus-clocking is down at 500-MHz or so.  Sounds like a
>> typical marketing ploy!
>>
>> About disabling the ACPI...  Can I do it *safely* via the remote-ssh
>> connection?  Or do I need to be at the box w/ keyboard and monitor?
>> What I've read makes it seem that the ACPI is set at boot-time.
>>
> If you don't mind rebooting the remote machine, add:
>
> hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"
>
> to /boot/device.hints and reboot

Although I've re-booted remotely, I've never done it after a boot modification. 
 It's probably prudent to wait 'til the weekend to try this -- mistakes are 
easier to deal with!

Thanks for the info.



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Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150

[Jeremy Chadwick]

On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:55:48AM -0300, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
>  I have the same situation here, but not the same hardware:
> 
>  atapci0:  port
>  0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3020-0x302f mem
>  0xe820-0xe82003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0
> 
>  ad0: 76319MB  at ata0-master SATA150
> 
>  This drive is withtout the jumper, which according to the manual means
>  it should operate as SATA300 (while with jumper plugged, it is limited
>  to SATA150). But it is only controlled as SATA150.

A few things (I'm not doubting your claim of a problem, just trying to
track it down):

1) What FreeBSD version and build date?  uname -a would suffice.

2) What controller (atapciX) is mapped to ata0?  You didn't include this
in your dmesg output.

3) Output of atacontrol cap ad0?

4) Is your motherboard set to use AHCI for the SATA (ICH7) controller?
There's reports that SATA300 is only available/used on some controllers
when AHCI is used.

5) This drive isn't available in the United States, so I'll have to go
off of foreign docs.  AUS docs don't show this drive as having any such
jumper, but the docs are sparse:

http://www.samsung.com/au/support/productsupport/download/Model_Select.aspx?type=Hard+Disk+Drive&typecode=12&subtype=HDD%283%2E5%29&cmssubtypecode=1203&model=HD080HJ&filetype=UM

6) Have you tried following the opposite the documentation you have
recommends?  That is: try putting the jumper on and see if SATA300
is negotiated?  Or is it SATA150 regardless of the jumper setting?

7) Another FreeBSD user using this drive does in fact see SATA300
negotiated speed from it when using an nForce MCP55 SATA300 controller.

http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2006-12/msg01421.html

I'm left wondering if there's actually two revisions of this drive
floating around on the market; an older one that only supports SATA150,
and a newer that supports SATA300.

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| Parodius Networking   http://www.parodius.com/ |
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Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150

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ad0: 70911MB  at ata0-master SATA150
ad2: 238474MB  at ata1-master SATA150


Those are SATA150 disks so no problem there.

   Regards
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Re: porteasy vs portupgrade

[Adam J Richardson]

When did you try it last? There have been lots of improvements and you 
can set certain flags up to always be in effect if you need to.


Fairly recently - a couple of months back, probably April time. I can't
give the exact month because I have a lousy short term memory.


portmaster -L | grep version

tells me everything that needs to be updated and the -e switch removes 
ports i no longer want around, but then again, so does make deinstall 
clean. What does portversion do thats so special? same with pkg_deinstall


I don't think portversion and pkg_deinstall do anything special except 
let me be lazy about the /how/ of the ports system. They're easy to 
learn and that's about it. The way they're set up by default allows me 
to think less about how to do what I want to do, and that leaves more 
clock cycles in my brain for important stuff. I mean, instead of 
remembering "it's the -L flag to see what I have installed, then pipe to 
'grep version'", I just type portversion. Easy.


To upgrade all ports plus deps, I use "sudo portupgrade -aRr", usually 
inside a screen session so I can disconnect and go do something else for 
a while, like sleep. [I can't remember what the flags do, I just pretend 
to be a pirate when I want to upgrade my apps. :P ]  I'm sure portmaster 
is just as easy. There was just something about it I didn't like.


Incidentally, for removing ports I don't want I generally use 
pkg_cutleaves, which AFAIK is nothing whatsoever to do with portupgrade. 
Running "sudo pkg_cutleaves -x" is my idea of a good time. I'm 
definitely a minimalist.


BTW: Miguel, you should try portmaster as well as portupgrade and see 
which you prefer. Don't listen to our ramblings. There is no "right" 
choice here.


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Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150

[Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri]

On 7/26/07, Eduardo Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 7/22/07, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 12:10:12AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > 'k, I just bought a new desktop, SATA/300MB/s interface, and this drive:
> >
> > 
> >
> > Web site states 3Gb/s ... I'm seeing same SATA!50:
>
> Seagate and WDC both ship SATA300 drives with a SATA150-limiting jumper
> on them.  It's documented on the drive itself, and in the manufacturing
> manuals.  Both companies do this as a precaution; there are some buggy
> chipsets out there which claim to support SATA300 but then break badly
> when utilising it.  This is why the jumper's set to SATA150 by default.
>
> Chances are your drives have the jumper limiting the drive to SATA150.

I have the same situation here, but not the same hardware:

atapci0:  port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3020-0x302f mem
0xe820-0xe82003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0

ad0: 76319MB  at ata0-master SATA150

This drive is withtout the jumper, which according to the manual means
it should operate as SATA300 (while with jumper plugged, it is limited
to SATA150). But it is only controlled as SATA150.

So, chances are my disc also have some problem?


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profissional: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Here is me too.

FreeBSD services.wearab.net 7.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #2: Tue
Jul 24 05:07:02 GMT 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SERVICES amd64

ACPI APIC Table: 
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6600  @ 2.40GHz (2397.61-MHz K8-class CPU)
 Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6f6  Stepping = 6
 
Features=0xbfebfbff
 Features2=0xe3bd
 AMD Features=0x20100800
 AMD Features2=0x1
 Cores per package: 2
usable memory = 2130096128 (2031 MB)
avail memory  = 2055856128 (1960 MB)
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs

atapci0:  port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x20a0-0x20af mem
0x9020-0x902003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0
ata0:  on atapci0
ata0: [ITHREAD]
ata1:  on atapci0
ata1: [ITHREAD]
ad0: 70911MB  at ata0-master SATA150
ad2: 238474MB  at ata1-master SATA150
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a


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Re: porteasy vs portupgrade

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try portmaster as a replacement to portupgrade. No dependencies and it 
works great.


Hi Eric,

I tried portmaster one time when I got mad with portupgrade. It's great 
that it has no dependencies, but I didn't like it at all. Can't remember 
why - it just didn't work for me. I think portupgrade probably ruined me 
with things like portversion and pkg_deinstall. I'm too lazy for portmaster.


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Re: porteasy vs portupgrade

[Eric]

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try portmaster as a replacement to portupgrade. No dependencies and it 
works great.


Hi Eric,

I tried portmaster one time when I got mad with portupgrade. It's great 
that it has no dependencies, but I didn't like it at all. Can't remember 
why - it just didn't work for me. I think portupgrade probably ruined me 
with things like portversion and pkg_deinstall. I'm too lazy for 
portmaster.


Adam J Richardson


When did you try it last? There have been lots of improvements and you 
can set certain flags up to always be in effect if you need to.


portmaster -L | grep version

tells me everything that needs to be updated and the -e switch removes 
ports i no longer want around, but then again, so does make deinstall 
clean. What does portversion do thats so special? same with pkg_deinstall

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RALUS for Linux - authentication failing

[John Nielsen]

I'm trying to get the latest Linux remote agent for Backup Exec to run on a 
FreeBSD-amd64 machine. The exact version is RALUS-11d.7170.2, although I 
suspect any 10.0 - 11d version would be the same.

After trying a few things (including installing on a real Linux host) I was 
able to identify and extract the files containing the two rpm's that are 
actually installed. I ran those through rpm2cpio and got a simple directory 
layout. I duplicated the directory structure and config file from the Linux 
host and ran the main executable. (The init script tries (and fails, even 
after I fixed all the hardcoded paths) to do some housekeeping, but none of 
it is necessary for the thing to actually run.)

The executable seems to run okay and the host even shows up as a Unix target 
on the (Windows) Backup Exec server, but I'm unable to authenticate, 
preventing me from doing any backups. I've used the agent on other Linux and 
Solaris hosts successfully, and it generally just takes the OS root (or other 
user in the beoper group) password, without a need to set any ralus-specific 
passwords anywhere.

Has anyone else gotten this to work on FreeBSD? If not, can anyone tell me (or 
speculate) what method the agent uses / might use to authenticate users?

I was able to enable logging, so I know it sees the login attempt but it can't 
verify the password:

18006 Thu Jul 26 11:51:16 2007 : LogonUser failed for user: root because 
LogonUser: The input password does not match the OS password


Thanks for any input (well, anything other than "don't do that" :) ).

JN
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Re: make buildworld fails on 6.2-STABLE

[J.D. Bronson]

so I deleted /usr/src
redownloaded from a different mirror and tried
make buildworld again...

It still failed -but this time at a different point:


mkdep -f .depend -a-DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" 
-I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc/../cc_tools 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc/../cc_tools 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc/../../../../contrib/gcc 
-I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc/../../../../contrib/gcc/config 
-DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"3.4.6\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"\" 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc/../../../../contrib/gcc/gcc.c 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc/../../../../contrib/gcc/gccspec.c
echo cc: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libc.a 
/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc/../cc_int/libcc_int.a >> .depend

===> gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1 (depend)
sed -e "/^@@ifobjc.*/,/^@@end_ifobjc.*/d"  -e "/^@@ifc.*/d" -e 
"/^@@end_ifc.*/d" 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1/../../../../contrib/gcc/c-parse.in > c-parse.y

yacc -d c-parse.y
yacc: e - line 1811 of "c-parse.y", syntax error
{ if ($1 == error_}ark_node)
   ^
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1.
*** Error code 1

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Re: porteasy vs portupgrade

[Eric]

Maxim Khitrov wrote:

On 7/26/07, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do you simply use 'portmaster -a' to update everything? I've tried
using it a few times, but it never recompiled ports that depend on the
one being updated. I recall there was an option to do that, but you
had to specify each port manually for that to work. How do you get it
to update all out-of-date ports and recompile everything depending on
those ports?


i usually just issue the -a switch. No issues yet in over a year of 
doing it that way. Why recompile everything that depends on a port 
unless you have to? things like this are usually in UPDATING, so i do it 
when i need to, not every time.

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Re: make buildworld fails on 6.2-STABLE

[J.D. Bronson]

At 09:16 AM 07/26/2007, Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:

Am Donnerstag 26 Juli 2007 15:54:36 schrieb J.D. Bronson:
> internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11
> Please submit a full bug report,
> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
> See http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.

Most probably a (physical) memory error.

As the message says, this has pretty much nothing to do with the upping of
world, but is an "internal" compiler error, which I've only seen on
development snapshots of gcc (improbable that these are distributed with
STABLE), or flaky memory (which is much more likely the cause).

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thanks - ironically I have never had ANY issue building world on this 
machine until today. I have deleted /usr/src and re cvs'd from a diff 
mirror as a test.


-JD 


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Re: porteasy vs portupgrade

[Maxim Khitrov]

On 7/26/07, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Miguel wrote:
> > Adam J Richardson escribió:
> >> Miguel wrote:
> >>> Hi, i used to use portupgrade as using this instructions
> >>> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
> >>> for doing all the port managing, what about porteasy, it is as  good
> >>> as portupgrade?
> >>> i think porteasy is not as popular as portupgrade.
> >>> thanks
> >>
> >> Hi Miguel,
> >>
> >> I use portupgrade and portsnap, a combination which seems to work
> >> fine. The only thing that annoys me about portupgrade is that it's
> >> written in Ruby, and when it's time for an upgrade I always have to
> >> upgrade the Ruby compiler as well. Upgrading Ruby just takes forever
> >> on these old battered beige boxes.
> >>
> >
> > you are absolutly right, portsnap + portupgrade,
> > thakns
>
> try portmaster as a replacement to portupgrade. No dependencies and it
> works great.

Do you simply use 'portmaster -a' to update everything? I've tried
using it a few times, but it never recompiled ports that depend on the
one being updated. I recall there was an option to do that, but you
had to specify each port manually for that to work. How do you get it
to update all out-of-date ports and recompile everything depending on
those ports?
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Re: SATA 300 Drive Being Run At 150

[Eduardo Meyer]

On 7/22/07, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 12:10:12AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> 'k, I just bought a new desktop, SATA/300MB/s interface, and this drive:
>
> 
>
> Web site states 3Gb/s ... I'm seeing same SATA!50:

Seagate and WDC both ship SATA300 drives with a SATA150-limiting jumper
on them.  It's documented on the drive itself, and in the manufacturing
manuals.  Both companies do this as a precaution; there are some buggy
chipsets out there which claim to support SATA300 but then break badly
when utilising it.  This is why the jumper's set to SATA150 by default.

Chances are your drives have the jumper limiting the drive to SATA150.


I have the same situation here, but not the same hardware:

atapci0:  port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3020-0x302f mem
0xe820-0xe82003ff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0

ad0: 76319MB  at ata0-master SATA150

This drive is withtout the jumper, which according to the manual means
it should operate as SATA300 (while with jumper plugged, it is limited
to SATA150). But it is only controlled as SATA150.

So, chances are my disc also have some problem?


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Re: porteasy vs portupgrade

[Eric]

Miguel wrote:

Adam J Richardson escribió:

Miguel wrote:
Hi, i used to use portupgrade as using this instructions 
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
for doing all the port managing, what about porteasy, it is as  good 
as portupgrade?

i think porteasy is not as popular as portupgrade.
thanks


Hi Miguel,

I use portupgrade and portsnap, a combination which seems to work 
fine. The only thing that annoys me about portupgrade is that it's 
written in Ruby, and when it's time for an upgrade I always have to 
upgrade the Ruby compiler as well. Upgrading Ruby just takes forever 
on these old battered beige boxes.




you are absolutly right, portsnap + portupgrade,
thakns
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try portmaster as a replacement to portupgrade. No dependencies and it 
works great.

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usb driver for use with kmobiletools and nokia

[Ronald Klop]

Hello,

I have a Nokia phone which I want to manage by using kmobiletools.
If I connect the phone with usb I can access MicroSD card of the phone  
with umass, so the connection is ok. But if I choose the 'PC Suite' mode  
on the phone the ugen driver is attached. The phone also show up in  
usbdevs.
I tried loading the umodem driver, but it doesn't attach. Kmobiletools  
needs a tty to access the phone as a modem.


Does anybody how to attach a phone by USB?

Ronald.

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Re: Drive concatenation...Which tool to use?

[Derek Ragona]

At 08:56 PM 7/25/2007, Josh Tolbert wrote:

Hello,

I've got a friend that wants to use a FreeBSD box for a file server. He has a
huge pile of drives of different sizes, but he wants them all as one big file
system. What's the appropriate tool for this? gstripe doesn't seem like it'd
be smart to use with differently-sized drives. Is gvinum up to snuff and
stable enough to use? Is ccd still supported? What would be your tool of
choice?

Thanks,

Josh


Given that the drives are different capacities you might want to just use 
the different drives for different portions of the filesystem, such as 
using a smaller drive for swap, then using different drives for:

/usr/local
/usr/src
/var
/
/etc

The choices depend on the drive capacities and what the server will be used 
for.


-Derek

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Re: porteasy vs portupgrade

[Miguel]

Adam J Richardson escribió:

Miguel wrote:
Hi, i used to use portupgrade as using this instructions 
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
for doing all the port managing, what about porteasy, it is as  good 
as portupgrade?

i think porteasy is not as popular as portupgrade.
thanks


Hi Miguel,

I use portupgrade and portsnap, a combination which seems to work 
fine. The only thing that annoys me about portupgrade is that it's 
written in Ruby, and when it's time for an upgrade I always have to 
upgrade the Ruby compiler as well. Upgrading Ruby just takes forever 
on these old battered beige boxes.




you are absolutly right, portsnap + portupgrade,
thakns
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Re: make buildworld fails on 6.2-STABLE

[Heiko Wundram (Beenic)]

Am Donnerstag 26 Juli 2007 15:54:36 schrieb J.D. Bronson:
> internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11
> Please submit a full bug report,
> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
> See http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.

Most probably a (physical) memory error.

As the message says, this has pretty much nothing to do with the upping of 
world, but is an "internal" compiler error, which I've only seen on 
development snapshots of gcc (improbable that these are distributed with 
STABLE), or flaky memory (which is much more likely the cause).

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Please Help with Confusion about ipfw rules.

[Martin McCormick]

This is a situation where I thought I knew more than I
actually do. I set up a new domain name server with a
client-type firewall after having tested it first, but there is
nothing like hundreds of thousands of packets per hour to show
the weak spots.

I made the mistake of setting up keep-state rules both
coming and going and I now see ipfw complaining frequently about
too many dynamic rules. All I am really trying to do is give
crackers a lot of nothing to look at when scanning the ports on
the system. It isn't doing any NAT or routing, etc. I am not
sure if I really need any keep-state rules. The DNS needs to be
accessible to the world and be able to talk to the world on port
53 and that is all as far as bind is concerned.

What I am confused about is when I actually need
keep-state rules and when a simple rule like:

${fwcmd} add pass all from any to ${ip} 53

and

${fwcmd} add pass all from ${ip} to any 53

That theoretically should leave port 53 wide open to all types
of in-bound and out-bound traffic.

Fortunately, the new system is still working, but I am afraid we
might be dropping some packets so I need to modify the port 53
access.

Thanks for your help.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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Re: Adaptec AAR-1220SA / AAR-1430SA

[Derek Ragona]

At 05:01 AM 7/26/2007, Christopher Key wrote:

Hello,

I'm trying to establish whether I can expect the Adaptec AAR-1220SA or 
AAR-1430SA SATA cards to work with 6.2.  They're not on the list of 
supported hardware, which does include a lot of the other Adaptec 
cards.  However, the Adaptec cards that are listed all seem to be hardware 
RAID cards, whereas the 1220SA and 1430SA use something called 'HostRAID', 
which I think just means software raid.  Does this just mean that I'll be 
unable to use the RAID functionality on the cards, not really a concern, 
or are they unlikely to work at all?


Many thanks,

Chris Key


I have tried the 1200 series and they simply don't work for RAID or 
non-RAID use.  They have Sil chips which cause intermittent 
problems.  These problems are also present in other adapters that use some 
of the Sil chips.  Unfortunately the Sil chips are "hit and miss" as they 
have different versions (masks) of the same chips and some will work while 
most do not.


-Derek

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make buildworld fails on 6.2-STABLE

[J.D. Bronson]

Can someone help me with this?
I cvs'd up this am to 6.2-STABLE and now buildworld fails..


In file included from 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/include/bits/locale_facets.h:2963,

 from /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/c++/3.4/locale:46,
 from 
/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/config/locale/generic/collate_members.cc:36:
/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/c++/3.4/bits/time_members.h:62: 
internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11

Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/gnu/lib.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1





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Re: Adaptec AAR-1220SA / AAR-1430SA

[Rob]

Christopher Key wrote:
I'm trying to establish whether I can expect the Adaptec AAR-1220SA or 
AAR-1430SA SATA cards to work with 6.2.  They're not on the list of 
supported hardware, which does include a lot of the other Adaptec 


Some (maybe all?) of the Adaptec SATA cards used a Silicon Image "SiI" chipset, and were 
completely flaky unreliable junk under FBSD (the "DMA timeout" error mentioned 
previously.)  I think the ata developer gave up on them, thus their exclusion from the hardware 
list.  Check Adaptec's specs and see if you can find the chip set used.

  -RW

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Re: ACPI slowing CPU... or something else

[Manolis Kiagias]

V.I.Victor wrote:
> I was wondering about the "truth-of-clockspeed."  Perhaps the 1800-MHz only 
> applies to CPU internal cache, etc. while the external bus-clocking is down 
> at 500-MHz or so.  Sounds like a typical marketing ploy!
>
> About disabling the ACPI...  Can I do it *safely* via the remote-ssh 
> connection?  Or do I need to be at the box w/ keyboard and monitor?  What 
> I've read makes it seem that the ACPI is set at boot-time.
>
>
>
>
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If you don't mind rebooting the remote machine, add:

hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"

to /boot/device.hints and reboot


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Re: ACPI slowing CPU... or something else

[V.I.Victor]

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, V.I.Victor wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, V.I.Victor wrote:
>>>
 On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Garrett Cooper wrote:

> V.I.Victor wrote:
>>  I've two 5.4 desktop boxes.  Pretty much the same installation; both
>>  from the same CD, same apps, no monitor/keyboard, 1-user logged-on via
>>  ssh (command-line only w/no gui) and otherwise lightly loaded.
>>
>>  Box_A: CPU: AMD-K7(tm) Processor (598.84-MHz 686-class CPU)
>> avail memory = 121630720 (115 MB)
>> ACPI disabled by blacklist.
>>
>>  Box_B: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz (1794.19-MHz 686-class 
>> CPU)
>> avail memory = 252186624 (240 MB)
>> cpu0:  on acpi0
>> acpi_throttle0:  on cpu0
>> ...

> Yes. On my virtual machine with ACPI:
>
> dev.cpu.0.freq: 2653
> dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 2653/-1 2321/-1 1989/-1 1658/-1 1326/-1 994/-1 
> 663/-1
> 331/-1
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# dmesg | grep 26
> FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #5: Tue Jul 17 08:22:26 UTC 2007
> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6700  @ 2.66GHz (2666.79-MHz K8-class
> CPU)
> Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2666794890 Hz quality 800
>
> What are the following sysctls set to?
>
> kern.clockrate
> hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest
> dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest
> dev.cpu.0.cx_usage

 Thanks for the reply!  I don't seem to have the last 2 you've asked about.

 'sysctl -a | egrep "clockrate|cpu"' reported the following:

 kern.clockrate: { hz = 100, tick = 1, profhz = 1024, stathz = 128 }
 kern.threads.virtual_cpu: 1
 kern.ccpu: 1948
 kern.smp.maxcpus: 1
 kern.smp.cpus: 1
 hw.ncpu: 1
 hw.clockrate: 1794
 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported: C1/0
 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1
 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_usage: 100.00%
 machdep.cpu_idle_hlt: 1
 dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU
 dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu
 dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0
 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0
 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0
 dev.cpu.0.freq: 1796
 dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1796/-1 1571/-1 1347/-1 1122/-1 898/-1 673/-1 
 449/-1 224/-1
 dev.acpi_throttle.0.%parent: cpu0
 dev.cpufreq.0.%driver: cpufreq
 dev.cpufreq.0.%parent: cpu0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have SMP enabled?
>>
>> No.  Both boxes have pretty minimal, basic installations.
>>
>>> You also might be able to tune the kernel clock rate to obtain better
>>> performance; I forget what the values were for sysctl, but if you search
>>> around the current@ archives a bit, there was a discussion involving VMware
>>> and clock tuning approximately 2-3 months ago which details this issue, and
>>> possible solutions.
>>
>> Perhaps tuning could help.  I'll check the archives.
>>
>> However, it just seems to me that the 1.8 GHz box ought to perform the 
>> simple prog (orig post) at least as fast as the 6 MHz box.
>
> Depends on:
> 1. What you're trying to do.
> 2. What your programs are optimized for.
> 3. Additional factors (I/O, load, etc).
> 4. Hardware attached to each machine. Some examples...
>   a. Comparing a SCSI disk vs a PATA disk.
>   b. Clockspeed applied to the RAM on one machine isn't equal to the other.
>   c. Motherboard manufacturers -- some manufacturers have done a shoddy job
> with memory handling, BIOS manufacturing, and other critical stats in the
> past.
>
> Try disabling ACPI on the P4 though and see what happens. I will say though,
> the Willamette (1st gen P4) chips weren't Intel's finest desktop chip; some
> people went far enough to complain that the Willamette series was nothing
> more than overclocked Coppermines, i.e. P3's. I haven't taken a look at the
> architectures and compared them, so those may be empty claims.

I was wondering about the "truth-of-clockspeed."  Perhaps the 1800-MHz only 
applies to CPU internal cache, etc. while the external bus-clocking is down at 
500-MHz or so.  Sounds like a typical marketing ploy!

About disabling the ACPI...  Can I do it *safely* via the remote-ssh 
connection?  Or do I need to be at the box w/ keyboard and monitor?  What I've 
read makes it seem that the ACPI is set at boot-time.





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Re: Sendmail question

[Dylan Smith]

Eric Crist wrote:

On Jul 26, 2007, at 4:54 AMJul 26, 2007, Dylan Smith wrote:

I am currently on the last stages of setting up a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE 
File and Network Application Server. One of my last tasks is to 
simple forward all mail from root out through my isp's SMTP(requires 
authentication) server and to an email account i have elsewhere. That 
is to say i have no purpose for a mail server other than to handle 
mail from things like periodic and to move that mail elsewhere.


Can this be easily accomplished? If so are there any guides/how-to's? 
I have done a search around my usual BSD sites and books and found 
nothing that is easily modified to my circumstances.


Thanks, Dylan.



It can be done, but it's a PITA with Sendmail.  Look into 
/usr/ports/mail/ssmtp.  We use it on our systems here where we need to 
simply get root's email off the box.  Simple configuration file, works 
well.


Eric Crist
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Thanks for that little suggestion.
Would this mean that i could just disable sendmail 
totally(sendmail_enable="none")?


Dylan.


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Re: LiveHTTPHeaders

[Eric]

fbsd2 wrote:

Looking for LiveHTTPHeaders in port library?
Is it spelled some what different?


   http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/



Thats an extension. I dont think it would be in the ports collection. 
browse to the site above in firefox and install the extension, then 
restart. All done

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Re: Sendmail question

[Eric Crist]

On Jul 26, 2007, at 4:54 AMJul 26, 2007, Dylan Smith wrote:

I am currently on the last stages of setting up a FreeBSD 6.2- 
STABLE File and Network Application Server. One of my last tasks is  
to simple forward all mail from root out through my isp's SMTP 
(requires authentication) server and to an email account i have  
elsewhere. That is to say i have no purpose for a mail server other  
than to handle mail from things like periodic and to move that mail  
elsewhere.


Can this be easily accomplished? If so are there any guides/how- 
to's? I have done a search around my usual BSD sites and books and  
found nothing that is easily modified to my circumstances.


Thanks, Dylan.



It can be done, but it's a PITA with Sendmail.  Look into /usr/ports/ 
mail/ssmtp.  We use it on our systems here where we need to simply  
get root's email off the box.  Simple configuration file, works well.


Eric Crist
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RE: Adaptec AAR-1220SA / AAR-1430SA

[Johan Hendriks]

>Hello,

>I'm trying to establish whether I can expect the Adaptec AAR-1220SA or 
>AAR-1430SA SATA cards to work with 6.2.  They're not on the list of 
>supported hardware, which does include a lot of the other Adaptec 
>cards.  However, the Adaptec cards that are listed all seem to be 
>hardware RAID cards, whereas the 1220SA and 1430SA use something called 
>'HostRAID', which I think just means software raid.  Does this just mean 
>that I'll be unable to use the RAID functionality on the cards, not 
>really a concern, or are they unlikely to work at all?
>
>any thanks,
>
>Chris Key

I have a 1210SA adapter with 6.2 to use a gmirror.
It looked all was working fine but when untarring large files or even a csup of 
the portstree I got TIME OUT messages on channel ad6
First I thought it was the disk so to eliminate that I switched the disks on 
the controller and got the same timeouts on ad6.

I then searched the chipset for these adapters and soren the ata developer 
stated to stay away from those chipsets.

I now have a 3ware 8006-2LP adapter and that works ok till now.

See here
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg88965.html

regards,
Johan


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RE: Sendmail question

[Terry Sposato]

Hi Dylan,

You should just be able to modify /etc/aliases and put in the e-mail alias
for root.

root: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Then run the 'newaliases' program and it should be all good. You may have to
allow the IP of the box to be relayed through your mail server. But if it is
on the ISP's network they usually allow it by default.

Cheers,

Terry

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Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2007 7:54 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Sendmail question

I am currently on the last stages of setting up a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE 
File and Network Application Server. One of my last tasks is to simple 
forward all mail from root out through my isp's SMTP(requires 
authentication) server and to an email account i have elsewhere. That is 
to say i have no purpose for a mail server other than to handle mail 
from things like periodic and to move that mail elsewhere.

Can this be easily accomplished? If so are there any guides/how-to's? I 
have done a search around my usual BSD sites and books and found nothing 
that is easily modified to my circumstances.

Thanks, Dylan.
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Adaptec AAR-1220SA / AAR-1430SA

[Christopher Key]

Hello,

I'm trying to establish whether I can expect the Adaptec AAR-1220SA or 
AAR-1430SA SATA cards to work with 6.2.  They're not on the list of 
supported hardware, which does include a lot of the other Adaptec 
cards.  However, the Adaptec cards that are listed all seem to be 
hardware RAID cards, whereas the 1220SA and 1430SA use something called 
'HostRAID', which I think just means software raid.  Does this just mean 
that I'll be unable to use the RAID functionality on the cards, not 
really a concern, or are they unlikely to work at all?


Many thanks,

Chris Key
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Sendmail question

[Dylan Smith]

I am currently on the last stages of setting up a FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE 
File and Network Application Server. One of my last tasks is to simple 
forward all mail from root out through my isp's SMTP(requires 
authentication) server and to an email account i have elsewhere. That is 
to say i have no purpose for a mail server other than to handle mail 
from things like periodic and to move that mail elsewhere.


Can this be easily accomplished? If so are there any guides/how-to's? I 
have done a search around my usual BSD sites and books and found nothing 
that is easily modified to my circumstances.


Thanks, Dylan.
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Re: trouble with php4, apache, egroupware, memory allocation

[Norberto Meijome]

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:10:24 -0700 (PDT)
Mark Busby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm running apache-1.3.37_4, php4-4.4.7, and eGroupWare-1.2.106_1. 
>   Apache error file is returning the following error when trying to access 
> the calendar.
>   PHP Fatal error:  Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes exhausted (tried to 
> allocate 23040 bytes) I've searched but have not found a working fix. 
>   Any Ideas??
>

You have 16 MB of memory per PHP process/script allowed in php.ini. Change the 
memory_limit setting in /usr/local/etc/php.ini . If the file doesn't exist, 
copy the default distribution one as php.ini.  

You can choose /usr/local/etc/php.ini-recommended for production sites, or 

/usr/local/etc/php.ini-dist for a default which is not really that good.

You can set your PHP settings with a simple php script with the following 
content :



Good luck,
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seriously, for they will shape you."
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Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been 
Warned.
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Re: Waiting for BIND security announcement

[Zbigniew Szalbot]

Hello,

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:36:27 +0300, "Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/25/07, Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> RELENG_6 was updated shortly after the release of 9.3.4. I'll be
>> updating RELENG_[56] with the new 9.3.4-P1 version after I'm done
>> regression testing it, which should be some time tonight. Same for
>> updating HEAD with 9.4.1-P1.
>>
>> The ports for bind9 and bind94 are already updated, so those with
>> urgent needs can use that route to upgrade immediately.
>>
>>
>> hope this helps,
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> --
>>
>> This .signature sanitized for your protection
>>
> 
> Thank you Doug for the hard work, I have updated my 3 boxes which runs
> BIND 9 }:)

I am running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p6 and BIND 9.3.3 (not from ports but
installed with the system. At least when I do pgk_info -Ix bind I am told
there is no such package installed). Where can I find information on BIND
upgrade? I tried freebsd-update but it did not think I needed any updates
:)

Thank you in advance!

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Re: Waiting for BIND security announcement

[Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri]

On 7/25/07, Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


RELENG_6 was updated shortly after the release of 9.3.4. I'll be
updating RELENG_[56] with the new 9.3.4-P1 version after I'm done
regression testing it, which should be some time tonight. Same for
updating HEAD with 9.4.1-P1.

The ports for bind9 and bind94 are already updated, so those with
urgent needs can use that route to upgrade immediately.


hope this helps,

Doug

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Thank you Doug for the hard work, I have updated my 3 boxes which runs
BIND 9 }:)
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