[Freedos-devel] Starting FreeDOS 1.3

Hi everyone I'd like to start work on FreeDOS 1.3! We talked before that the next release would be an iteration on FreeDOS 1.2. That means the next distribution will be FreeDOS 1.3 - and not 2.0. We wanted the next FreeDOS distro to

Re: [Freedos-devel] Ideas

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 9:16 PM, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel < freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > ​[..] > Chelson and his team was working on the DOSCore > project a while back which > gave a GUI for DOS based systems. I thought it was

Re: [Freedos-devel] Ideas

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Ercan Ersoy wrote: > > I, for one, would personally love to see FreeQB. Even if it only converted >> BASIC to assembly and relied on NASM for compiling, it would be a welcome >> addition to the FreeDOS family. The language could even be extended with >> several

Re: [Freedos-devel] 32-bit DOS

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 8:51 PM, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel < freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Interesting you should mention this; I and a few others have been working > on a 32-bit Protected Mode DOS-style kernel (see the Night group forum > here

Re: [Freedos-devel] Ideas

Sort of a simplified version of GNU bc, then? I think that would be really interesting. I hadn't used ACALC before, but looking it up online, it's a simple command line calculator: ACALC {expression} Where {expression} is add, subtract, multiply, divide, modulo .. and various functions like

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Coreutils

Good luck in your project! I have a question: Did you write any code yet? I can only see the readme and the license. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Ercan Ersoy wrote: > > Hello, > > I have abandoned DOS Coreutils Project. But, I started > FreeDOS Coreutils Project. > > FreeDOS Coreutils

Re: [Freedos-devel] UNIX utilities, arg parser, installer software

> On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 8:09 PM, David McMackins > wrote: > > > > Finally, I also wrote a program called the Multi-Disk Split Archive > > Installer (MDSAI) which is an installer program designed for deploying > > software too big for a single floppy disk. You put the installer on the > > first

Re: [Freedos-devel] UNIX utilities, arg parser, installer software

> Associate Member, Free Software Foundation (#12889) > > www.mcmackins.org www.delwink.com > www.eff.org www.gnu.org www.fsf.org > > On 06/24/2018 08:30 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > > Thanks. Any chance to split up the Unix utilities separately, like we > > have already done

Re: [Freedos-devel] UNIX utilities, arg parser, installer software

you may want to rename to INSTALL.EXE when making a > distribution. > > > Happy Hacking, > > David E. McMackins II > Supporting Member, Electronic Frontier Foundation (#2296972) > Associate Member, Free Software Foundation (#12889) > > www.mcmackins.org www.delwink.c

Re: [Freedos-devel] UNIX utilities, arg parser, installer software

Excellent! Do you have a website you could post these to? If so, put them there and share the link. If not, email me off list and we'll arrange to get them to me so I can share them on our files archive at ibiblio. I like the very permissive license, especially for a library. For those who don't

Re: [Freedos-devel] Drivparm question

oving this from his FreeDOS FDCONFIG.SYS. On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > I'm forwarding a question from Michael (michael.gruenha...@us.tel.com) > about drivparm. This is a feature from MS-DOS that is not in FreeDOS. > > I haven't used drivparm in *years* and I have no m

[Freedos-devel] Drivparm question

I'm forwarding a question from Michael (michael.gruenha...@us.tel.com) about drivparm. This is a feature from MS-DOS that is not in FreeDOS. I haven't used drivparm in *years* and I have no memory of it, so I said I would forward his question to the list (he's unable to join the list for some

Re: [Freedos-devel] Need help with Kitten library

> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote: >> >> I'm a bit embarrassed to ask about this, since I wrote the Kitten >> library. But it's been a very long time since I used Kitten, and I'm >> having trouble using Kitten in a simple pro

[Freedos-devel] Need help with Kitten library

I'm a bit embarrassed to ask about this, since I wrote the Kitten library. But it's been a very long time since I used Kitten, and I'm having trouble using Kitten in a simple program. Ercan asked me for help adding Kitten multi-language support to his DOS Coreutils. As a test, I wrote this

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS website issues (SourceForge)

(Just in case this email is delayed for delivery: Today is March 2, 11:15AM US/Central time) I wanted to let folks know that SourceForge is still having problems. The news items for the FreeDOS website are hosted at SF, so the website is currently showing a blank "What's New" section. Our FreeDOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeCOM 0.84-pre4 prerelease

Guten Morgen Tom On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Tom Ehlert <t...@drivesnapshot.de> wrote: > Hallo Herr Jim Hall, > > am 27. Februar 2018 um 16:13 schrieben Sie: > >> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Tom Ehlert <t...@drivesnapshot.de> wrote: >>> >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeCOM 0.84-pre4 prerelease

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: > > > I did find where it's hanging in MetaDOS. (0.84-pre4, TURBOC, Feb. 22) > > whatever this METADOS is. > it would be cool if you posted a METADOS.VHD somewhere so people can > easier reproduce these reports. > MetaDOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Branded C/C++ Toolchain

Hi Tony I appreciate the effort, but I'm not sure I like the optics of re-branding another project's work as "FreeDOS." That will seem like we're trying to grab someone else's stuff and claim it as our own - which we're not. We've rarely branded anything "FreeDOS" except for a few core things.

Re: [Freedos-devel] Arduino Port of FreeDOS

On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Steve Nickolas wrote: > > When you've stripped that much out of DOS, you have *nothing*... > > Heck, someone was talking about porting FreeDOS to a *6502*, which has access > to up to 64K of memory and I'd STILL see porting FreeDOS as pie in

Re: [Freedos-devel] splash screen

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Jerome Shidel wrote: > I gave thought to this when creating FDI. >[..] > You could easily add a splash screen to your own custom USB installer. > > I have no idea wether or not Jim would want a splash screen added for the > next OS release. >

Re: [Freedos-devel] Compiling with gcc

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Tom Ehlert wrote: > > Slight it as I may, at least FreeDOS works in the vast majority of usage > > cases that don't involve software published by Microsoft, > > what do you mean by that? (at least most) MS software should work as > well. >

Re: [Freedos-devel] Compiling with gcc

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jim Hall is a serious proponent of Free Software. I'm a pretty big fan > myself. He has always recommended OW (Sybase v1, "OSI") and NASM > ("BSD" 2-clause). I don't see the need to put obst

Re: [Freedos-devel] Compiling with gcc

> On Thu, 26 Oct 2017, David McMackins wrote: > >> I have been informed that gcc has a -m16 flag that actually outputs >> binaries that can run in 16-bit mode. Is there then anything stopping >> FreeDOS from being compiled fully with gcc? >> >> If not, why are we still using Watcom? On Thu, Oct

Re: [Freedos-devel] What is FreeDOS 2.0?

> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:23:43 +0200, Tom Ehlert wrote: >> one last thought: how exactly would make your proposed changes >> FreeDOS worth a change in naming to 2.0 ? >> >> I personally would expect more change then removing APPEND even if >> APPEND has its roots in CP/M and MSDOS 1.0 On Fri, Oct

Re: [Freedos-devel] What is FreeDOS 2.0?

> > (1) What does "Base" mean in 2017 or 2018? I think there are some > > packages we might take out of "Base" and move into a "Compat" package > > group, such as: > > > APPEND > > ASSIGN > > GRAPHICS > > JOIN > > SUBST > > others? On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Tom Ehlert

Re: [Freedos-devel] What is FreeDOS 2.0?

>> On Oct 17, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote: [..] >> I've lately wondered what should come after FreeDOS 1.2. I think it's >> time to talk about "FreeDOS 2.0." I wanted to start a conversation >> thread for it. [..] >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] What is FreeDOS 2.0?

I posted this topic to the FreeDOS Facebook group, as well. Sharing some comments from our Facebook friends, to add to the discussion: (edited for clarity/brevity) - a floppy maintainance kit [I think this means a set of disk repair utilities?] - Internet tools (ftp, web browser, email, etc) -

Re: [Freedos-devel] What is FreeDOS 2.0?

> On 10/17/2017 8:44 AM, Jim Hall wrote: [..] >> (1) What does "Base" mean in 2017 or 2018? I think there are some >> packages we might take out of "Base" and move into a "Compat" package >> group, such as: >> >> APPEND >> ASS

Re: [Freedos-devel] What is FreeDOS 2.0?

> On Tue, 17 Oct 2017, Eric Auer wrote: >[..] >> In general, I would include a variety of drivers for modern >> hardware. As mentioned on BTTR, somebody recently tried a >> few DOS games on VERY new hardware: First with MS DOS plus >> Win9x FDISK (fails to boot from harddisk, so he installed >> to

[Freedos-devel] What is FreeDOS 2.0?

Hi all I don't know if you saw on our Twitter or on Facebook, but since its release on December 25 2016, FreeDOS 1.2 passed 500,000 downloads in June 2017. And passed 600,000 in August. As of this week, FreeDOS 1.2 has been downloaded over 671,500 times. I've lately wondered what should come

Re: [Freedos-devel] FORMAT 0.91v -- new OpenWatcom makefile, removed warnings, fixed one bug

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi! > > A recent attempt of mine to rebuild FORMAT with OpenWatcom 1.9 showed > that the existing makefile was insufficient. I did a quick rewrite of > that and enabled all warnings ("-wx"). > > From there, I cleaned up most

[Freedos-devel] The FreeDOS summer coding challenge

Hi all In June, we had the FreeDOS Blog Challenge, where we asked people to write about how they used FreeDOS. This was part of a monthlong celebration of the 23rd anniversary of FreeDOS (June 29 1994-2017). We got a lot of stories, and it was really fun to read how people used FreeDOS. Someone

Re: [Freedos-devel] Would someone help me with my subscription ?

[..] >> Nowhere on the original page there was a captcha field. > > reCAPTCHA opens a pop-up, where you have to selected from a 4x4 (?) set > of images, e. g., all images showing a bus, or a tree. You get it... > >> This looks like another contrivance to keep out users of old browsers. >> ( I

Re: [Freedos-devel] Unix-like utilities for FreeDOS

>> On May 29, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote: >> I have arranged some things on ibiblio to collect the Unix workalike >> utilities into one directory. I have put them here: >> >> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/

[Freedos-devel] Unix-like utilities for FreeDOS

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote: > We have a few Unix-workalike utilities on ibiblio. > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/file/ > > I think over the weekend I'll create a new directory there, so we can > collect th

Re: [Freedos-devel] Linux commands in DOS - Minibox

>> I've been writing my own set of UNIX tools for DOS for personal use. >> Would anyone like me to publish these here in their own thread? We have a few Unix-workalike utilities on ibiblio. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/file/ I think over the weekend I'll create a

Re: [Freedos-devel] Linux commands in DOS - Minibox

orked. Am I missing > something? Did anyone have better luck? > > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 1:35 AM, Steve Nickolas <usots...@buric.co> wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 May 2017, Jim Hall wrote: >> >> Minibox is an interesting project, but I wonder why implement >>>

Re: [Freedos-devel] Linux commands in DOS - Minibox

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Ercan Ersoy wrote: > > > But looking at the source commited 20 minutes ago, it seems that no commands > > are yet implemented, it is only like a stub. > > Please read README. Also, Minibox includes commands in one executable file. > (e.g.

Re: [Freedos-devel] SOUND Program for FreeDOS

Looks like your program generates specific frequencies for a defined duration: printf("SOUND - Output sound from PC speaker.\r\n"); printf(" SOUND frequency delay\r\n"); printf("\r\n"); printf("Options:\r\n"); printf("frequency Output sound frequency in Hz.\r\n");

Re: [Freedos-devel] Announcing FDOSTUI

Sounds cool! I've tweeted your project from the FreeDOS Project twitter. Once you've added the INI support, I'd be happy to mention it as a news item on our front page to get more exposure. Jim On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Mark Olesen wrote: > Your right about that.

Re: [Freedos-devel] free-non-gnu-distros.en.html

Interesting development: Richard Stallman emailed me last night to suggest I work with the GNU licensing folks on this topic. So I'll follow up with them off list and report back on where things go. On Jan 22, 2017 8:34 PM, "Thomas Mueller" wrote: > Excerpt from Rugxulo:

Re: [Freedos-devel] free-non-gnu-distros.en.html

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 6:18 PM, David Hedlund wrote: > I would love to have your operating systems listed in > https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-non-gnu-distros.en.html, however the Free > Software Foundation "staff said that those who want their distros listed > have to

[Freedos-devel] Bug 157: HELP freezes if language is Spanish

I haven't had time to experiment with this bug yet (I'll have more time over the weekend). The person reports that HELP freezes under any language other than English? Has anyone else seen this problem? Based on the description, I think the problem can be reproduced by changing the language

[Freedos-devel] Getting ready for FreeDOS 1.2

Have you been testing the pre-releases of the upcoming FreeDOS 1.2 release? Jerome and others have been doing a great job putting this together, and I think we are almost "there" for a final FreeDOS 1.2 release. We have only a few minor changes based on the latest 1.2-pre23. So we are planning

Re: [Freedos-devel] Road to Perdition

This is unfortunate. The most recent release should always be available from: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/command/ I'm not able to run DOS programs where I'm at right now (work) so I can't run this to check version number:

Re: [Freedos-devel] Designing Effective OOH

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 7/24/2016 9:36 PM, antonygeorge wrote: > > Am I the only one who thinks that this post is just an attempt of > spamming the list? > > The ramblings don't make much sense to me as far as FreeDOS is concerned... > > Ralf

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Wiki

If you are trying to access the FreeDOS Wiki and notice it is offline, that's because SourceForge is having server problems. The wiki is hosted on SourceForge. The www website is hosted elsewhere so is unaffected. -- What

Re: [Freedos-devel] Problems on website?

; Hi, > > I've been on the freedos.org website yesterday. No problems seen, it all > worked. And I looked now again and it still has no problems... > > > > > Op zaterdag 9 juli 2016 heeft Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> het volgende > geschreven: > > Has anyone had problems

[Freedos-devel] Problems on website?

Has anyone had problems accessing the website recently? I haven't seen any issues, but I was just notified that Amazon's "EC2 has detected degradation of the underlying hardware hosting your Amazon EC2 instance." So they are advising me to set up a fresh instance on another "AMI" (virtual server)

Re: [Freedos-devel] An idea???

Rather than create your own new GUI from scratch, might I convince you to improve & modernize an existing DOS GUI such as those listed here: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/gui/ SEAL or OpenGEM might be interesting starting points.

Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos and fsf

I believe our long term goals and values are to make sure FreeDOS is and remains free and open. FSF "acceptance" is aspirational for FreeDOS, as we do not strongly align to FSF as other free software projects do (for example: GNOME or Debian). But yes, "free software" and "open source software"

Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos and fsf

Agreed. Also, I recall Stallman didn't like the license used in the OpenWatcom compiler. And that the kernel couldn't be compiled using an entirely free software tool chain. On Feb 10, 2016 5:15 PM, "Louis Santillan" wrote: > > Not all parts of FreeDOS meet the FSF's

Re: [Freedos-devel] freedos and fsf

On Feb 10, 2016 7:14 PM, "Jim Hall" <jh...@freedos.org> wrote: > > Agreed. Also, I recall Stallman didn't like the license used in the OpenWatcom compiler. And that the kernel couldn't be compiled using an entirely free software tool chain. > > Or at least what he con

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Personally, I would like BASE to be more or less a minimum viable OS > install and ALL to be a most likely > wanted install. > > When I say minimum viable I mean: kernel, freecom, xcopy, deltree, move > and a few

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Tom, Maarten, Jerome and Rugxulo, > > >> I emailed with Jim the other day. He is extremely busy at present. > > > fine. we should look for a new boss with more time to care. > > Not THAT, permanently, busy - Jim is busy

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:45 AM, Tom Ehlert wrote: > > > On 26/01/2016 12:10, Antony Gordon wrote: > >> Things would be so much simpler if FreeDOS emulated the Microsoft and > >> IBM (and Caldera, Digital Research) counterparts and installed the base > >> operating system.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 1/22/2016 3:36 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Regarding BWBASIC, current FreeBASIC is extremely cool while BWBASIC > was small but > > somewhat sketchy, I would agree to drop BWBASIC from the distro. > > > > > Sorry, but

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI and FreeDOS 1.2

> > On 1/26/2016 2:54 PM, Maarten Vermeulen wrote: > > Hi, > > I should leave BWBASIC right where it is. As it's for programming and > DEVELOPING. As it's devloper stuff I would leave it in "devel". It makes no > sense to put a devloping part from developing to the basic system part. > Leave it

Re: [Freedos-devel] fdisk translation

(I'm replying to this discussion a bit late .. I just changed jobs and I'm having a hard time staying on top of personal email.) On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Paul Dufresne <dufres...@gmail.com> wrote: [..stuff about catgets and gettext..] > Now, Jim Hall have made a library, catget

Re: [Freedos-devel] Translation tables

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 7:38 AM, Paul Dufresne wrote: > ftp://ftp.tuwien.ac.at/.vhost/www.freedos.org/fd-doc/contrib-howto.html > mentions > at 2. For the non-programmer: > If you speak a language other than English, translate the FreeDOS > Internationalization table. This

Re: [Freedos-devel] A little message

And to all of you who celebrate! Merry Christmas! -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI

I worry that the new FreeDOS installer is becoming too complex, trying to do all things for every use case and every user. On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Tying to decide what to do about a specific upgrade situation regarding > package files.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Eric Auer wrote: >[...] > PS Rugxulo: FreeCOM does NOT support command line option passing via > env variables itself. That is just common in DJGPP compiled tools etc. > > PS Jayden: I prefer to avoid the whole discussion in the floppy case >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > Personally I would rather see an executable installer also and save any > batch installers for a floppy distro, A batch would be perfect for a setting > where every byte counts. > > But this is Jim's project and

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:50 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU wrote: > The more options in the installer,the better.There will always be people > (Trust me,I am one of them haha) that will wonder "Where's the program > options","WHY CAN'T I CHANGE THE NAME OF MY DRIVE" or "WHY

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: > Jim, > > So, I don’t know if you missed my post on the current structure and file > count for the batch installer. > > This has absolutely no relation to what the user sees during a the > installation. > > Running

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Thomas Mueller <mueller6...@twc.com> wrote: > > from Jim Hall: > >> I agree that the floppy case is an edge case. I am not too worried >> about that. From how I understand people using FreeDOS, most users are >> either installing F

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2

>> On Oct 26, 2015, at 10:13 AM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU >> wrote: >> >> Somewhere back in the threads,I suggested an EXE installer.It can be made >> into one relatively small file,rather than 87 2KB batch files.Batch could be >> used more for setting up the extra features

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS

>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 01:50:22 +0200, Jerome Shidel >> wrote: >> > Hopefully, over the next couple days, I expect to have some free time to >> > finish the FDI 1.2 batch installer. This does not include a couple >> > advanced options. Such as altering the installation target

Re: [Freedos-devel] Sorry for being inactive

>> On 10/9/2015 9:36 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU wrote: >> Sorry for being inactive.My network was attacked by multiple hackers,along >> with my email,security keys,etc.I am dealing with an administrative >> crisis,so..yeah.Just letting you know I am still reading your emails. > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Regarding LTOOLS quality: This thing is ancient and of course it supports > > only ext2, not ext3 or ext4. It is probably better to use the > > source of VMSMOUNT as basis for TSR drivers for exFAT access :-) > On Thu,

Re: [Freedos-devel] exfat support from android linux for freedos sdxc support and more?

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Antony Gordon wrote: > > With regard to the development environment, Jim has posted somewhere that the > general development tools are OpenWatcom and NASM. I personally have found > OpenWatcom a tad bit overwhelming because of all that it

Re: [Freedos-devel] exfat support from android linux for freedos sdxc support and more?

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Geraldo Netto wrote: > Hi All, > > I was talking to Eric a few days ago about this exfat thread > and while we are worried with the license issues > I would like to volunteer myself to port current exfat from linux > kernel to freedos > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] exfat support from android linux for freedos sdxc support and more?

My understanding is similar to Bret's. Also, I understand the exFAT implementation on Android and other platforms was derived and licensed from Microsoft. It is patent-encumbered, and therefore cannot be merged with FreeDOS (or any code distributed under the GNU GPL, for example.) I would be very

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI 1.2 Questions?

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > So we boot the live CD with a message to the effect of, "Welcome to the live > environment! Type "install" to install FreeDOS on your system." and then the > user can type install (or install /a or advanced mode)

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project

>> Will we implement an "advanced" setup? [...] > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Of course it is good to be able to reach a prompt, > but I would not put effort in extra magic. To let > the user manually select packages, the user could > do a BASE

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. > wrote: >> [long description of install process] >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 5:34 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU wrote: > Why not make a single executable to handle all of this,instead of 50 million >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project

> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. > wrote: >> >> Ok, I’m going to need some feedback on this. >> >> Especially things like: >> >> What I should strip out of the FDCONFIG.SYS and >> AUTOEXEC.BAT? >> >> What should be

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > So we already have at least five use cases :-) > > * install from floppy XCOPY style to pre-386 computers, allowing > the user to later add packages in a more manual way via FDPKG > > * install from CD / DVD / USB to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Jerome Shidel wrote: [..] > I have the FDI 1.2 prototype installer about 30% done already. > Excellent! > Next up: > > Locate packages to install. No sense going any farther if they can't be found. > > To display Eula. Accept or quit?

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

Just to get this one out of the way: >>> On 07/09/2015 13:51, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. wrote: Who is making the Batch file based installer for FreeDOS 1.2? I will be more than happy to answer any questions on V8Power Tools implementation, theory and advanced techniques for

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Antony Gordon wrote: > If you just want to do the EULA thing, you can put a generic, this contains > free software based on several licenses, including GNU GPL, MIT, and BSD. By > continuing with this install, you accept all applicable

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:54 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > I suggest three options: > > 1. Base install (Just the basic essential parts of FreeDOS) > > 2. Complete install (The base install of FreeDOS along with all bundled > third-party software) > > 3. Advanced install

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 package compilation

Resurrecting this bit of discussion from June, as I get caught up on list matters. :-) > On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Mercury Thirteen wrote: > >> I'm still reviewing the packages to ensure they're all open source >> compliant. >> >> What are we considering acceptable in this regard? Are we going only

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project

> On 10/09/2015 10:51, Eric Auer wrote: >> My personal opinion is that on 8086, you should rather use a floppy >> distro like RUFFIDEA or BREZEL which has the "base" category already >> pre-installed on one or a few floppies and you just XCOPY that to a >> disk of your choice manually. Imagine how

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project

> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Jerome E. Shidel Jr. > wrote: >> (Please forgive me if I misquote or misunderstand the following Jim.) >> >> Jim says he wants a super simple, nearly option free installer. >> With basically two choices: >> >> Full install >> >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer

>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 9:22 PM, Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote: >> I don't know about displaying the EULA. There are many free software / >> open source licenses used in the FreeDOS distribution. The kernel and >> many utilities in Base are under the GN

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 Installer Project

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Antony Gordon wrote: > HI, > > How many of you remember the DOS 6.22 install process? If possible, it > should aim for that. It's simple and straight to the point. It worked across > all platforms and got DOS up and running with minimal fuss.

Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source

>> On 9/7/2015 6:37 PM, Michael Brutman wrote: >> >> ... >> I think that whether it is open source or not it is still a great solution >> for DOS networking. If the lack of source code prevents you from using mTCP >> I regret that and I encourage you to question your assumption that without >>

[Freedos-devel] V8Power Tools for DOS

I'm sharing this for Jerome. Jerome Shidel has been working on a set of power utilities for DOS batch files. Called the V8Power Tools for DOS, they provide Visual equivalents to many command line tools, such as VCLS, VCHOICE, VECHO .. as well as new power tools such as VPROGRES (display a

Re: [Freedos-devel] Test email

Thanks, everyone. Glad to know the email lists are working again. But to be on the safe side, I'll wait to start any major discussion for another day. -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud

[Freedos-devel] SourceForge outage

I assume everyone knows by now the outage was a storage failure at SourceForge that caused major disruption to everything hosted there. You can follow progress via @sfnet_ops on Twitter and via the SourceForge blog at http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-infrastructure-and-service-restoration/

[Freedos-devel] Test email

Hi everyone It's Tuesday, and SF says list archives are back. Just checking if list services are back too. Did anyone get this email? -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kernel.sys and fdos (dir)

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 6:52 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: I have a question,which regards to a question I asked recently.When I tried installing FreeDOS to my harddrive,it never booted after installation.However,Jim,your comment 'we keep our files in C:\FDOS' sparked

Re: [Freedos-devel] Kernel.sys and fdos (dir)

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 2:21 PM, M Vrm netraa...@gmail.com wrote: [..] You can easy delete Kernel.sys and rename the dir (fdos) to whatever you want. Like jdjsoejap or more serious microwave. Maybe (I think) this is not quite handy?! Hi Maarten Yes, this is expected behaviour in any DOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:37 AM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: I wonder what Jim Hall is thinking of this?He must not be happy. :/ (And no,I don't think we CAN be sued,because we never specifically said to ASUS that it would work.They chose to use an open source OS

Re: [Freedos-devel] LFNDOS source available

On Feb 14, 2015 4:54 AM, Joe Forster/STA s...@c64.rulez.org wrote: Hi guys, According to http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=lfndos , the source of LNFDOS is not available. That isn't true, :-) it's been released under GPL. With _great_ difficulties, I managed to find not only the source of

Re: [Freedos-devel] Instituting a vetting process for FreeDOS software

(My use of you and your are not directed at anyone in particular. It's just a way of speaking.) On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Michael Brutman mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote: I almost feel like I should apologize for opening the can of worms. Some thoughts: - Software contributed to FreeDOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] Instituting a vetting process for FreeDOS software

On Jan 26, 2015 4:41 AM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org wrote: Hello!I was reading you discussion,and I agree with your idea.There should be a mofe formal way to include programs into freeDOS.Although I am new to this community,I am slowly becoming a skilled programmer.As for the

Re: [Freedos-devel] Instituting a vetting process for FreeDOS software

/software/?prog=pacific-c http://www.freedos.org/technotes/newsitem/archive/007.txt http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/ OpenWatcom or cc386 or djgcc is preferable. On Sunday, January 25, 2015, João Jerónimo j_j_b_o_de...@yahoo.com wrote: On 24-01-2015 20:40, Jim

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