Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV is hiring a DSP engineer

2024-02-08 Thread glen english LIST
Hi Mooneer wow that list of requirements and resposibilities  reads like a USD$250,000/year job.  or more. Perhaps it can be done by someone (a volunteer)  willing to manage a few volunteer contractors ? I'm happy to manage and coordinate as a volunteer. On 9/02/2024 10:19 am, Mooneer

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Updating the libcodec2 binding in FFmpeg, fixed-point decoding

2023-12-29 Thread glen english LIST
down,  it only sends the token tag to the decoder to look up and reproduce. IE a form of dynamic lookup table. There must be a name for doing this in computer science ??? glen On 29/12/2023 11:54 pm, Tomas Härdin wrote: fre 2023-12-29 klockan 10:44 +1100 skrev glen english LIST: Hi Tomas

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Updating the libcodec2 binding in FFmpeg, fixed-point decoding

2023-12-28 Thread glen english LIST
Hi Tomas "codec2 + zip makes for even smaller files" implying that there is still redundancy to remove in the codec2 encoded voice files That sounds like low hanging fruit to pick. I guess though that is across a large number of frames (an audio book), where there may be redundancy /

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec 2 Algorithm description doc

2023-12-14 Thread glen english LIST
d code etc. Is this your driving point ? regards glen english On 14/12/2023 8:41 pm, Sebastien F4GRX wrote: Hello, I agree reference code is important as a known-good base to help test the compliance of third party implementations, but code NEVER has been equivalent to a specificati

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec 2 Algorithm description doc

2023-12-13 Thread glen english LIST
I support reference C code For a developer who needs to implement an algorthm on their platform, the reference C code (RCC) provides ability to numerically  test bench their platform code (essential) , and provides a well broken down algorithm method in the form of C code (essential) . In

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Linux-preferred desktop FreeDV?

2023-11-27 Thread glen english LIST
Hi Adrian, cheers. Yeah thinking that the most popular installed environment would be the one with the dependences well sorted, searching for this on google, I couldnt find a consistent answer.LOL I've always run XFCE seems to have the smallest installed footprint but of course

[Freetel-codec2] Linux-preferred desktop FreeDV?

2023-11-22 Thread glen english LIST
On Linux Debian, you get the option of XFCE, gnome, KDE, cinnamon, MATE, LXDE, and more I ask what is the most SUITED desktop environment for new installs to support the FreeDV GUI code ? glen VK1XX ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing list

Re: [Freetel-codec2] STM32 freeDV cost benchmarks

2023-11-20 Thread glen english LIST
Hi Mooneer thanks for the comments. The FDIV on the ESP32-S3 is very slow I think 80 cycles, but of course one should always use RECIPS  and a MUL. Integer div is a couple of cycles IIRC. I'll start and see what jams it all up . regards, On 21/11/2023 4:01 pm, Mooneer Salem wrote: Hi

[Freetel-codec2] STM32 freeDV cost benchmarks

2023-11-20 Thread glen english LIST
Hi Mooneer I am preparing to implement FreeDV on an FPGA. Is there a location in the repo somewhere, or does anyone have , anecdotally a feeling of, the major workloads / major consumers of processor time on the STM32 FreeDV port. regards ___

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec2 in real time on STM32

2023-11-20 Thread glen english LIST
Hi Jan Just adding to the other two very good replies My experience with codec2 with STM32F4/F7 At O0, the performance may be down to 50% of -O2, and also, with O0, its likely the compiler is not exploiting any hardware speedups as with GCC there are some (invisible)  ties between -O level,

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Starting an organization for FreeDV/Codec2 development

2022-02-21 Thread glen english LIST
elcome. Thanks, -Mooneer K6AQ ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing list Freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freetel-codec2 -- Glen English RF Communications and Electronics Engineer CORTEX RF Pacific Me

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 1600 mode and constellation points

2021-08-24 Thread glen english LIST
and walking pilots are used . DRM is in general transmitted up to 20kHz bandwidth and more pilots are required. In DVBT- same power is used but the pilot data is repeated and the demod averages over multiple periods. -glen english On 25/08/2021 12:03 am, Brian Morrison wrote: On Mon, 2021

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Questions about Codec2 embedded performance

2021-05-13 Thread glen english LIST
I think, based on my profressional experience with the F4 , L4, L, in battery environments - you would be far better to use an F4 part for this. -aggressively down clock it when the full clock speed is unnecessary You can save a ton of power doing that. The chip is very good at changing

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Questions about Codec2 embedded performance

2021-05-13 Thread glen english LIST
to encode real time ? Glen English STM32L0, L1, L2, F0 , F4, F7 and Xilinx FPGA person. On 5/14/2021 8:51 AM, Josh Lloyd via Freetel-codec2 wrote: Hi Bruce, thanks for your reply. > Hardware floating point is requ ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing l

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Questions about Codec2 embedded performance

2021-05-13 Thread glen english LIST
to encode real time ? Glen English STM32L0, L1, L2, F0 , F4, F7 and Xilinx FPGA person. On 5/14/2021 8:51 AM, Josh Lloyd via Freetel-codec2 wrote: Hi Bruce, thanks for your reply. > Hardware floating point is requ ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing l

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV data mode NOT ACCEPTABLE SPECTRAL PURITY

2020-08-10 Thread glen english
=6317 - David On 10/8/20 6:50 am, glen english wrote: except that the Pi transmitter has unacceptable spectral purity. On 9/08/2020 7:18 pm, Adrian Musceac wrote: Thanks David for the news. One question: how high can the Pi transmitter go in frequency? Our 70 cm band is pretty crowded

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV data mode

2020-08-10 Thread glen english
believe it meets the spectral purity requirements of the Amateur LCD on 2M: http://www.rowetel.com/?p=7207 and on HF: http://www.rowetel.com/?p=6317 - David On 10/8/20 6:50 am, glen english wrote: except that the Pi transmitter has unacceptable spectral purity. On 9/08/2020 7:18 pm, Adrian

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV data mode

2020-08-09 Thread glen english
except that the Pi transmitter has unacceptable spectral purity. On 9/08/2020 7:18 pm, Adrian Musceac wrote: Thanks David for the news. One question: how high can the Pi transmitter go in frequency? Our 70 cm band is pretty crowded, but the 23 cm band and 2305-2400 MHz bands are underutilized

Re: [Freetel-codec2] SM3000 comment time

2020-07-27 Thread glen english
2020-07-23 klockan 08:54 +1000 skrev Glen English ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing list Freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freetel-codec2

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Are we being distracted by LPCnet

2020-07-25 Thread glen english
IMO You wont attract too many FM people to 700D, LPCnet-C2  can win over those , at least in terms of voice quality and robustness (compared to DSTAR, and DMR is really more like CB) , given that LPCnet with a relatively simple modem can be 12dB ahead of FM. Needs a frequency hopping radio

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Are we being distracted by LPCnet

2020-07-25 Thread glen english
Hi Adrian Good  rational points you make. BTW:AD9361, AD9371, ADRV9008 are all "sub-optimal" (I have to be nice to my ADI friends) for narrow band work. too noisy, insufficient dynamic range. But this new one is worth looking at (I have info on it on NDA) here is the (public) pre release

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Are we being distracted by LPCnet

2020-07-24 Thread Glen English
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] SM3000 comment time

2020-07-24 Thread glen english
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Re: [Freetel-codec2] SM3000 comment time

2020-07-22 Thread Glen English
Hi Steve I did a google and found this : https://kicad-pcb.org/external-tools/altium2kicad/ On 22/07/2020 23:00, Steve wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:28 AM Tomas Härdin wrote: So anyone wanting to develop or modify the SM3000 would need to install two pieces of proprietary software with

Re: [Freetel-codec2] SM3000 comment time

2020-07-22 Thread Glen English
VIVADO. :-) glen On 22/07/2020 22:26, Tomas Härdin wrote: sön 2020-07-19 klockan 09:25 +1000 skrev glen english: I am designing an SM3000, and now is the time for input from users. (input request below) [...] I have chosen the Xilinx Zynq XC7007S hybrid CortexA9 / FPGA . The single core

[Freetel-codec2] new group : sm3000-freedv-...@groups.io

2020-07-21 Thread glen english
Hi All Thanks for people's time to write  very useful input . Because this forum freetel-codec2 is getting a little polluted by SM3000 stuff, I have created a new group specifically to handle SM3000 discussions and dev. sm3000-freedv-...@groups.io you can join here :

Re: [Freetel-codec2] SM3000 pricing SM1000 features

2020-07-21 Thread glen english
and careful with your personal options about others on this list. - David ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing list Freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freetel-codec2 -- Glen English RF Communications

[Freetel-codec2] Mode 2020 and non PC platforms- Alan's question

2020-07-20 Thread Glen English
, The question is for me, how close are we to getting Mode 2020 running on a top-end Pi, Odroid XX etc.? As it stands now, Mode 700D runs well on almost any Pi. And putting one in a small box with USB peripherals is not a problem really. Alan VK2ZIW On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 08:27:08 +1000, Glen English wrote

Re: [Freetel-codec2] forum

2020-07-20 Thread Glen English
reflector. https://groups.io Just some thoughts... Steve ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing list Freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freetel-codec2 -- Glen English RF Communications and Electronics Engineer CORTEX RF

Re: [Freetel-codec2] SM3000 pricing SM1000 features

2020-07-20 Thread Glen English
in a small box with USB peripherals is not a problem really. Alan VK2ZIW On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 08:27:08 +1000, Glen English wrote I need some comments to drive decisions on part choices for the SM3 My focus is on accessability- being affordable. Having said that a few dollars saved is poor

[Freetel-codec2] SM3000 pricing SM1000 features

2020-07-20 Thread Glen English
I need some comments to drive decisions on part choices for the SM3 My focus is on accessability- being affordable. Having said that a few dollars saved is poor savings if the new box cannot meet our forseeable objectives. The original project leaders are not providing any opinions,

[Freetel-codec2] OFDM and interference tips

2020-07-19 Thread glen english
I read in one of the comments  in the FreeDV blog- someone was wondering why FreeDV did better than expected amongst local noise. The main reason is that many noises are single carriers. As long as the level of the interferer does not cause too much AGC action (which would reduce the SNR of

Re: [Freetel-codec2] SM3000 comment time

2020-07-19 Thread glen english
, 2020, 2:36 PM glen english <mailto:g...@cortexrf.com.au>> wrote: Altium 20. On 20/07/2020 7:33 am, Steve wrote: > Is this going to be a KiCAD project? > > > ___ > Freetel-codec2 mailing l

Re: [Freetel-codec2] SM3000 comment time

2020-07-19 Thread glen english
Altium 20. On 20/07/2020 7:33 am, Steve wrote: Is this going to be a KiCAD project? ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing list Freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freetel-codec2 -- Glen English RF Communications

Re: [Freetel-codec2] SM3000 comment time

2020-07-19 Thread glen english
regon, USA ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing list Freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freetel-codec2 -- Glen English RF Communications and Electronics Engineer CORTEX RF & Pacific Media Technologies Pty Ltd ABN 40 075 532 008 PO Bo

Re: [Freetel-codec2] SM3000 comment time

2020-07-19 Thread glen english
symbol tables, -- Glen English RF Communications and Electronics Engineer CORTEX RF & Pacific Media Technologies Pty Ltd ABN 40 075 532 008 PO Box 5231 Lyneham ACT 2602, Australia. au mobile : +61 (0)418 975077 ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing

Re: [Freetel-codec2] SM3000 comment time

2020-07-19 Thread glen english
:35 pm, Mike O'Connor wrote: On 19/7/20 4:48 pm, glen english wrote: What I want to achieve is a instant on, plug and play solution with digital radio /front panel upgrade path. In the spirit of the SM1000.  Turn on and it is ready 1 second later .  Just load the image and no more to do. This is t

Re: [Freetel-codec2] SM3000 comment time

2020-07-19 Thread glen english
What I want to achieve is a instant on, plug and play solution with digital radio /front panel upgrade path. In the spirit of the SM1000.  Turn on and it is ready 1 second later .  Just load the image and no more to do. This is the way to drive uptake and broad usage. and no issues like Pi

Re: [Freetel-codec2] SM3000 comment time

2020-07-18 Thread Glen English
potentially reduce requirements, too. (BTW, I imagine actually building on the target would be rare. Cross compiling on a desktop or laptop PC will always be significantly faster, even taking transfer time into account.) -Mooneer K6AQ On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:27 PM glen english <mailt

[Freetel-codec2] SM3000 comment time

2020-07-18 Thread glen english
I am designing an SM3000, and now is the time for input from users. (input request below) * Design Goals : High computational capability : So that our modems and codecs as they become more advanced, are less constrained by the STM32F4 platform. Platform to be Linux so that development,

Re: [Freetel-codec2] OFDM modem sync bug

2020-07-16 Thread glen english
, or substitute code. thanks! On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 6:25 AM glen english mailto:g...@cortexrf.com.au>> wrote: Hi Steve yep It didnt take long to find, a few minutes , since, well it seems modems all have the same type of bugs... if you design modems long enough

Re: [Freetel-codec2] OFDM modem sync bug

2020-07-16 Thread glen english
, or it is garbled by the ether. The value is not really important, just that it be the same BPSK value, which the decodes to two indexes of the bits rx_uw of value 0:0 On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:25 AM Glen English <mailto:g...@cortexrf.com.au>> wrote: anyone going to fix the FreeDV O

Re: [Freetel-codec2] OFDM modem sync bug

2020-07-16 Thread Glen English
anyone going to fix the FreeDV OFDM modem ? I'll located the bug, the line number etc.. On 16/07/2020 08:31, glen english wrote: Excellent Alan ! right, like I thought , tx_uw always zeros , and rx_uw goes to zero because input level falls. OK David, I am sure you had other ideas

Re: [Freetel-codec2] On Parrot repeaters

2020-07-15 Thread glen english
r repeater scene here, there's no communication on needs. there is still a Yahoo group but none it seems of the current repeater maintainers ever post or read it. Test equipment: I now have an Advantest U3641N the 75 ohm version. Alan VK2ZIW On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:00:58 +1000, glen english wro

[Freetel-codec2] On Parrot repeaters

2020-07-15 Thread glen english
posted here for the benefit of all the non-RF people : Hi Alan. OK roger all that. as you know, duplexors, cavity filters, bla bla are my home game... if you have interaction problems between them the cable lengths are wrong between the filters. IE the coupling is wrong. with a single

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Alans OFDM sync problem

2020-07-15 Thread glen english
0 rx_uw ; 100101 SYN: 2 5 1 6 ; tx_uw 00 rx_uw ; 0010111010 state: Rx Maybe UnSync       peak:    254  sync: 0 SNR: -8.8  triggered: 1 recordany: 0 rxDataCnt 1988 ncodec 0 * *Alan VK2ZIW* * * *On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 22:45:24 +1000, glen english wrote* > well, looks OK, looks like

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Alans OFDM sync problem

2020-07-15 Thread glen english
rxDataCnt 1428 ncodec 0* No more SYN: n n n n messages. *Over to you...* * * *Alan VK2ZIW* * * * * *On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:43:37 +1000, glen english wrote* > Alan, please be sure to keep correct subject line. > Right. ofdm.c > voidofdm_sync_state_machine(structOFDM *ofdm, uint8_t*rx_uw) >

[Freetel-codec2] Alans OFDM sync problem

2020-07-15 Thread glen english
Alan, please be sure to keep correct subject line. Right. ofdm.c voidofdm_sync_state_machine(structOFDM *ofdm, uint8_t*rx_uw)  there are two synced states, synced (ongoing) and trial sync (when sync is getting established for the first time- checking if this is real sync or bogus sync due to

Re: [Freetel-codec2] more on OFDM AGC

2020-07-14 Thread glen english
ble > to measure BER, but you'll be able to see if the LDPC decoder is > converging, and if the demod is falling over in the fast ALC condition. > > - David > > On 14/7/20 5:09 pm, glen english wrote: > > OK, in addition to my actual recordings, > > > > that would be using :

[Freetel-codec2] FreeDV linux VM TX audio buffer emptys gaps

2020-07-14 Thread glen english
Debian Buster GUEST , in VM (VMWARE) on windows 64 bit host I get TX audio to radio outbuffer empty counter running mad and obviously audio gaps in TX happens with PCIe sound or USB sound. changing base priorities niceness  etc no improvement. (unless freeDV is overriding something I need

Re: [Freetel-codec2] more on OFDM AGC

2020-07-14 Thread glen english
ding profile running with the command line version of the modem. Cheers, David ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing list Freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freetel-codec2 -- Glen English RF Communications and

[Freetel-codec2] more on OFDM AGC

2020-07-14 Thread glen english
hi David further to my previous email (pre requisite) : perhaps  something is mismatched for the application here. : I have not been looking for long , but there are not many places where there is amplitude calcs and a time constant. -- ofdm.c /* update mean amplitude

[Freetel-codec2] FreeDV OFDM modem AGC response q.

2020-07-13 Thread Glen English
Hi David AGC questions. We had the WIA broadcast running all weekend on 50.25 in 700D and 2020 in 'berra. I was mobile around canberra for some of the weekend with FreeDV, with my laptop and the FT857 Something interesting and unexpected experiences.. When I had the AGC set to SLOW, the

[Freetel-codec2] On clock offsets and sample rates FreeDV

2020-07-11 Thread glen english
Great resource, thanks David On our tests,  many users were reporting 100ppm error and BER ~ 5%. Even with athat sample rate error , this is well within the capture of the OFDM modem (nice one David !) , even with that steady state error, users were reporting that non zero BER on otherwise

[Freetel-codec2] FreeDV OFDM modem sample clock offset maximum

2020-07-11 Thread glen english
For the OFDM modem in 1.4.1 700D, What is the sample clock offset corrector's maximum offset for pull-in,  and hold in ? investigating some trouble here. I'm guess the pull clock for the TX samples are generated by the sound device, and errors there will be the sound device and any error in

Re: [Freetel-codec2] location of test scripts for codec2

2020-07-11 Thread glen english
I used to run, which is here: https://gist.github.com/darksidelemm/f09c3eb4a0fe837e4fd42347d264d85a Note that this is fairly VK5 specific, and includes some custom preambles and outros. 73 Mark VK5QI On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 6:23 PM glen english <mailto:g...@cortexrf.com.au>&

[Freetel-codec2] location of test scripts for codec2

2020-07-11 Thread glen english
In prep for adding and modifying things in FreeDV, this evening I built FreeDV from source on debian BUSTER. Wow everything worked. well done everyone :-) ! Now, I remember seeing the scripts for running audio and codec2 tests But I cannot remember or find their location. Anyone care to

[Freetel-codec2] VK1 canberra FreeDV action

2020-07-10 Thread Glen English
In VK1 Have been running voice keyer all day on different modes..., 20W RMS 6m 50.25 (beaming  030 Hpol) quite a few locals decoding it with interest. like : " Ok, for the benefit of the group, I had some success too. I can decode 700D but my computer doesn't do 2020 (computer too old).

[Freetel-codec2] ALC no ! - 700D IC7300 TX setting !

2020-07-10 Thread glen english
Hi All I think the general advice to set the transmit power to when the ALC begins to activate is incorrect. Different  radios have very different time constants for their metering. In the IC7300, by the time the ALC begins to show on the display, you are making a real mess of it. Suggest

Re: [Freetel-codec2] to FEC or not

2020-07-09 Thread Glen English
with LDPC.  Agreed that we need to pick the code length and rate carefully to avoid too much latency, but still give good performance. Cheers, Bill On 9/7/20 11:57 am, Glen English wrote: Hi David and group I want to discuss "to FEC or not to FEC" years ago, david and I had a conve

[Freetel-codec2] to FEC or not

2020-07-08 Thread Glen English
ts/listinfo/freetel-codec2 ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing list Freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freetel-codec2 -- Glen English RF Communications and Electronics Engineer CORTEX RF & Pacific Media Technologi

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 4FSK/FreeDV/MSK/OFDM

2020-07-07 Thread glen english
ht? If you get that far I'll help you design the ctests we'll need to see as well. Cheers, David On 6/7/20 7:10 pm, glen english wrote: Hi David The goal is to improve FreeDV so that it is at least equal with SSB on a flat VHF channel. On HF, the performance of FreeDV is better than SSB mainly

Re: [Freetel-codec2] What do you think about this...C4FM

2020-07-06 Thread glen english
Someone needs t0 point out to these people such bandwidth is only permitted at 29 MHz FM and not anywhere else. I will look up the rules (to make sure I am not out of date and I am correct...) and read them the riot act when I get home glen On 6/07/2020 6:18 pm, Al Beard wrote: Hi all, I

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 4FSK/FreeDV/MSK/OFDM

2020-07-06 Thread glen english
below and I'm unclear on what you are trying to achieve. Can you pls tell me what the goal of your proposed work is? Cheers, David On 5/7/20 6:43 pm, glen english wrote: I've been looking at an coherent MSK modem for Codec2. I have not done any coherent MSK modems since the late 90s. Using an  SSB

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 4FSK/FreeDV/MSK/OFDM

2020-07-05 Thread glen english
I've been looking at an coherent MSK modem for Codec2. I have not done any coherent MSK modems since the late 90s. Using an  SSB radio , at something like 1600 bps , there will still be appreciable PAPR on MSK due to bandwidth constraint. probably about 3dB PAPR on a 2400Hz wide radio.  When

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV GUI mode 2020 on Odroid N2

2020-07-04 Thread glen english
yeah i recommended to Alan he assign core affinity, For a single threaded program , it can win you a few % by assigning afinnity on the command line.. However-  How multithreaded is it Alan ? if it is well multi threaded, and IF there are significant worker threads, you will find substantial

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV GUI mode 2020 on Odroid N2

2020-07-04 Thread glen english
you run up my "parrot" and test your modem? Or, patch freebeacon to use freedv_rawdatarx() and then from 'data' decode to audio. Alan VK2ZIW On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 18:02:58 +1000, glen english wrote nice one Alan I am working on a  VHF modem. probably MSK with fully coherent MSK d

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV GUI mode 2020 on Odroid N2

2020-07-04 Thread glen english
nice one Alan I am working on a  VHF modem. probably MSK with fully coherent MSK demodulator (for SSB TX or otherwise IQ) On 4/07/2020 5:51 pm, Al Beard wrote: Hi guys, Battling "parrot" on my Odroid N2 caused me to check my audio with the FreeDV GUI. Testing PC speaker to the mic on the

[Freetel-codec2] FreeDV on 6m

2020-06-24 Thread Glen English
Yesterday, Dave Moore Vk2DVM   and I got FreeDV loaded and running on 6m , between sydney and canberra (260km path) We used a variety of modes, but 700D and 2020 are really the only modes you might as well use, other modes are either legacy, or designed for specific jobs (es-hail satellite

Re: [Freetel-codec2] clip

2020-06-23 Thread glen english
alright. The squash limiter works by subtracting  a threshold from the ABS level sample by sample This resultant is negative clipped at 0, so that only peak events > threshold produce any positive and non zero numbers This value is fed (sample by sample again) into a short FIR low pass

Re: [Freetel-codec2] 4FSK/FreeDV

2020-06-23 Thread glen english
Hi David Thanks for the info . OK found README_fsk.md in CODEC2 repo. right. yes it does pretty well for an incoherent FSK demod. I'll start reading up on the FreeDV source to see how I can plug my own modems in. Clip function-   hard clipping generates aliasing in the digital domain,  it

Re: [Freetel-codec2] LPCNET on Xilinx FPGA

2020-06-22 Thread glen english
Hi David OK on the CPU load of LPCnet. One thing Codec2 700D has shown is that high performance speech coding can be done at VERY low power consumption. That is a pretty deal for many tasks and applications. That's really important. If LPCnet203 consumes that much of the AVX512 on a large,

[Freetel-codec2] 4FSK/FreeDV

2020-06-22 Thread glen english
David, is there a tie-up (IE an implementation that can be hung together)  with your 4FSK modem, LDPC  and FreeDV with 700D or 2020 ? -glen On 22/06/2020 9:31 pm, David ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing list Freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV Tx power PAPR- SM1000

2020-06-22 Thread glen english
performance. g On 6/22/2020 3:05 PM, Greg Maxwell wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 4:55 AM glen english wrote: One thing to consider- accurate PAPR measurement (by a receiver) is hard at low SNR. That is one of the nice things about FEC based PAPR reduction, the receiver doesn't need to measure

Re: [Freetel-codec2] LPCNET on Xilinx FPGA

2020-06-21 Thread glen english
=85ZCTuekjGA Although the guy never finishes anything :-) The ride was interesting. On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 11:15 PM glen english <mailto:g...@cortexrf.com.au>> wrote: Hi Steve oh yeah. Undergrad thesis. good for students to have a real project. --and the thesis is a usef

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV Tx power PAPR- SM1000

2020-06-21 Thread glen english
is approximately a LUT and the FFT (DFT?) is very short. On 22/06/2020 2:17 pm, Greg Maxwell wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 9:51 PM glen english wrote: I was giving some thought to how PAPR reduction might be implemented within the current framework, taking into account the limited capability

Re: [Freetel-codec2] LPCNET on Xilinx FPGA

2020-06-21 Thread glen english
Hi Steve oh yeah. Undergrad thesis. good for students to have a real project. --and the thesis is a useful metric Verilog. yuk. The other option is HLS. C++ >> VHDL. You need to somewhat know what you are doing, because what you do affects how much of a mess it makes at the low level

Re: [Freetel-codec2] LPCNET on Xilinx FPGA

2020-06-21 Thread glen english
in using an FPGA is often converting to integer math (it's all floats now).  Just that might help with speed and memory. Don Reid On June 21, 2020 18:21:00 glen english wrote: Hi Jeroen    ,  David I'm interested in assisting where I can in the whole freeDV sphere. I've recently gone over the last

[Freetel-codec2] LPCNET on Xilinx FPGA

2020-06-21 Thread glen english
Hi Jeroen    ,  David I'm interested in assisting where I can in the whole freeDV sphere. I've recently gone over the last year of forum posts to see what I have missed in detail. I'd like to be able to implement LPC122, 203 (and Codec2)  on a small , cheap FPGA for use with FreeDV . I am

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV Tx power PAPR- SM1000

2020-06-21 Thread glen english
, 22 Jun 2020 08:33:18 +1000, glen english wrote Alan it already goes through an SSB generator, and is already bandwidth constrained. The bandwidth expansion because of an excess  PAPR event occurs where the signal cannot be faithfully reproduced- that is stages beyond the sideband modulator

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV Tx power PAPR- SM1000

2020-06-21 Thread glen english
Alan it already goes through an SSB generator, and is already bandwidth constrained. The bandwidth expansion because of an excess  PAPR event occurs where the signal cannot be faithfully reproduced- that is stages beyond the sideband modulator- mostly the power amplifier, but in reality all

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV Tx power PAPR- SM1000

2020-06-21 Thread glen english
I was giving some thought to how PAPR reduction might be implemented within the current framework, taking into account the limited capability of the SM1000 processor. If we approach this on trying to constrain the  statistical likelihood of a PAPR event  (where the peak power exceeds some

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Generating LDPC Codes

2020-06-21 Thread glen english
__ Freetel-codec2 mailing list Freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freetel-codec2 -- Glen English RF Communications and Electronics Engineer CORTEX RF & Pacific Media Technolog

[Freetel-codec2] FreeDV appraisal

2020-06-20 Thread glen english
2 days ago, I started to use FreeDV, for the first time in years. Well done everyone. I especially like the sound card debug facilities.  Very useful ! Interestingly, the IC9700 has a peak hold on the modulation/power output. I will investigate to see what the time constant is of that peak

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV Tx power

2020-06-18 Thread Glen English
the bias doesnt change, but any PA pushed into its supply rails generally operates at maximum efficiency . this is because there is no potential between the supply rail and the active device. in undersaturated, quasi linear  conditions , there is the additional dissipation because the

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV Tx power

2020-06-18 Thread Glen English
Hi David Oh yeah, I agree with you-  OFDM, like what you have done for Free DV, is certainly the best mode for performance. On  the computationally constrained platform, the SM1000 is fantastic. The TD eq single carrier mode has to work hard. The OFDM modm gets its multipath tolerance for

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV Tx power

2020-06-18 Thread Glen English
mode, I think I would use a a single carrier with time domain equaliser, and concentrate on minimum SNR operation. 73 glen english VK1XX . On 18/06/2020 10:50, Tsutsumi Takehiko wrote: Hi Glen, What is your position of Single-carrier FDMA or LP-OFDMA technology compare to PARP reduction

Re: [Freetel-codec2] FreeDV Tx power

2020-06-16 Thread Glen English
Hi David I've been across OFDM PAPR reduction development for many years. Most successful simple schemes involve some sort of selective mapping or bit flipping. -IE the PAPR is computed and an alternative trajectory is generated . -These can be either tweaking the source bitstream slightly

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codan NGT interface to SM1000

2020-06-14 Thread Glen English
cheer David . very good. On 15/06/2020 08:35, David Rowe wrote: Yep! https://rfhead.net/archives/582 On 15/6/20 7:14 am, glen english wrote: Has anyone done any interfacing to a Codan NGT  for the SM1000 ? I wanted to equip a mate of mine with it.  I can get hold an NGT to work with. glen

[Freetel-codec2] Codan NGT interface to SM1000

2020-06-14 Thread glen english
Has anyone done any interfacing to a Codan NGT  for the SM1000 ? I wanted to equip a mate of mine with it.  I can get hold an NGT to work with. glen ___ Freetel-codec2 mailing list Freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Introducing a new FM mode: 6000

2020-04-18 Thread glen english
Most FM radios with integer PLLs will have a loop filter bandwidth of maybe 150 Hz, - enough to deal with most microphonics. In order to modulate below about 250Hz, LF audio, like subaudible tones , are injected into the reference  oscillator- the PLL will follow that because it is within the

Re: [Freetel-codec2] A warning on using single chip transceiver chipsets.

2020-04-08 Thread glen english
hricht- Von: glen english [mailto:g...@cortexrf.com.au] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. April 2020 12:48 An: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: [Freetel-codec2] A warning on using single chip transceiver chipsets. While on this discussion, I think a caution neds to be applied here to the singl

[Freetel-codec2] A warning on using single chip transceiver chipsets.

2020-04-08 Thread glen english
While on this discussion, I think a caution neds to be applied here to the single chip radios about, IE transcievers used for DV hot spots, and SDRs like Lime SDR. Their wideband phase noise is TERRIBLE. They polute the band . And many do not understand the implications and effects.  As well

Re: [Freetel-codec2] ESP32 port

2020-02-07 Thread glen english
/2020 6:56 PM, glen english wrote: what's the array access like, sensible ? is the cache thrashing ? No thrashing that I can tell with the ESP-DSP library. I mean, it's performant. 73, Dana K6JQ On 6/02/2020 5:43 pm, DANA MYERS wrote: On February 5, 2020 at 9:25 PM Bruce Perens via

Re: [Freetel-codec2] ESP32 port

2020-02-07 Thread glen english
what's the array access like, sensible ? is the cache thrashing ? On 6/02/2020 5:43 pm, DANA MYERS wrote: On February 5, 2020 at 9:25 PM Bruce Perens via Freetel-codec2 wrote: Dana, the only thing you didn't make clear is whether your code is using the fixed or floating data type. If

Re: [Freetel-codec2] A Question about CODEC2 and FDMDV

2019-07-31 Thread glen english
Suggest new designs use the cortex M7, 1.8 x as fast as the M4 for same clock on codec2 On 1/08/2019 8:47 AM, Stuart Longland wrote: On 1/8/19 12:00 am, Steve wrote: How about a new repository for a KiCAD project to copy the SM1000 support circuitry, e.g., A/D, D/A, PTT, LED's, etc, onto

Re: [Freetel-codec2] sm1000 and FreeDV 700D

2019-07-08 Thread glen english
AL, let me know if I can help cheers On 9/07/2019 11:52 AM, Al Beard wrote: Terrific, I'm trying with an aarch64 board running, a Linux with a 5.XX.XX kernel and 8.XX.XX C compiler, Linux called "Manjara". Trying to get my head around ARM "intrinsics". Back in the 80s I did Z80 machine

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Compiling on the aarch64 processors, LPCNet issues

2019-06-26 Thread glen english
it's a reasonable point steve. and well put ! i think super-guru is over stated, NEON code and x86 code are not dissimilar. ALot of the modem code I write is both x86 and NEON, as I write on the x86 and I deploy on NEON so I always end up writing both code bases for dual compiles. Actually

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Compiling on the aarch64 processors, LPCNet issues

2019-06-26 Thread glen english
edit: the 32 bit userland I think that is Android . 64 bit userland for linux. I need to get another of these Alan, if you want to split postage. On 26/06/2019 4:34 PM, glen english wrote: I was thinking you might target it as the LPCnet project

Re: [Freetel-codec2] Compiling on the aarch64 processors, LPCNet issues

2019-06-26 Thread glen english
"budget". In the end, all I want is a portable, low power box to run FreeDV in 2020 and any subsequently developed modes. Digital Repeaters very much in my mind. Alan VK2ZIW On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 15:23:01 +1000, glen english wrote > Alan > > I have a couple of  RK3399s boards..

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