RE: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4
within a reasonable budget! :) This is a nine years old machine and while nice to work with, is well past its prime. This is mostly a budget hobby project with the aim of turning it into a chepao gaming machine (within its limits) and kid computer. Gorka Gorka , I use my dual 533MHz Digital Audio ( only about a year younger than yours ) - OS10.3.9 , 1.5Gb Ram, 256mb video card, 80gb + 120Gb HDs as my main machine 8 hours a day drawing CAD plans for houses. It is stable , fast ( fast enough for my CAD program anyway ) easy to work on and easy to expand. I earn a good living using this machine so your GigE still has many useful years left in it for sure. What budget are you setting for the video card ? Look at the games your kids intend to play on this machine then see what the min system requirements are for each game. That should be a fair indicator of what you need to buy. A nice upgrade would be a Radeon 9200 128mb card - about $75+ on ebay Stewie _ Looking to move this spring? With all the lastest places, searching has never been easier. Look now! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4
On Nov 23, 5:08 pm, Gorka L Martinez Mezo g...@gmx.net wrote: I`m slowly upgrading an old G4 Gigabit Ethernet for the young son of a friend. It is still used to play games and the original ATI Rage 128 with 16mb VRAM isn`t up to the task of running Medal of Honor as fluidly as it should. Being not too familiar with this model, and after a Google search, I`m looking for advice on how to upgrade the video card. snip The ATI Radeon 7500 Mac Edition seems to be compatible, but at 32Mb doesn`t seems to provide much advantage for mid-2000s needs! For the time, the 32MB Radeon 7500 was a significant upgrade from the 16MB Rage. The other option is a GeForce 2MX. IIRC, they were pretty much top of the line then. Twice the vram and faster processor yielded a significant speed bump. Here is a link to a Barefeats test of the Radeon, GeForce and the Rage in a 466 DA. http://www.barefeats.com/graphiX.htm While the DA has a 4X AGP, the speed differences will be similar to a 2X slot. It shows the Radeon and the GeForce as anywhere from 5% to 300% faster than the Rage Pro. I would go with one of those as a bang for the buck test. Now if you have games that run under OS 9, there is a pci card that blows them away, the VooDoo 5 5000. The meanest, badest, fastest pci video card, but not supported under OS X. HTH, Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4
On Nov 25, 2009, at 12:38 PM, Stewie de Young wrote: Gorka , I use my dual 533MHz Digital Audio ( only about a year younger than yours ) - OS10.3.9 , 1.5Gb Ram, 256mb video card, 80gb + 120Gb HDs as my main machine 8 hours a day drawing CAD plans for houses. It is stable , fast ( fast enough for my CAD program anyway ) easy to work on and easy to expand. I earn a good living using this machine so your GigE still has many useful years left in it for sure. And I use a 400MHz PowerMac G3 with a second monitor as my main machine. It is plenty fast for IRC, web browsing, iTunes, and Mail all at the same time! (dual monitors helps) Oh, i also have XBolo, Otto Matic, and Chopper on it for games! :) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4
Has anyone tried the 64mb ATI Radeon 9600 Pro shipped with 2004 PowerMac G5s in older G4 towers? My friend`s G5 uses this card and I would like to know if it could be replaced by something better and moved to the G4 Gigabit. This would be a symbiotic move between the Macs! Searched Google but it isn`t clear if this card can be used in AGP x2 slots! Gorka -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4
Well, that computer is also occasionally used by his older son, studying design, for design/Photoshop work! Try to do that with a contemporary PC box :) Gorka - Original Message - From: Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 9:26 PM Subject: Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4 On Nov 25, 2009, at 12:38 PM, Stewie de Young wrote: Gorka , I use my dual 533MHz Digital Audio ( only about a year younger than yours ) - OS10.3.9 , 1.5Gb Ram, 256mb video card, 80gb + 120Gb HDs as my main machine 8 hours a day drawing CAD plans for houses. It is stable , fast ( fast enough for my CAD program anyway ) easy to work on and easy to expand. I earn a good living using this machine so your GigE still has many useful years left in it for sure. And I use a 400MHz PowerMac G3 with a second monitor as my main machine. It is plenty fast for IRC, web browsing, iTunes, and Mail all at the same time! (dual monitors helps) Oh, i also have XBolo, Otto Matic, and Chopper on it for games! :) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list __ Información de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versión de la base de firmas de virus 4637 (20091125) __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4
On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Stewie de Young wrote: An AGP card is also a lot faster than its PCI equivalent as well. Not all AGP cards are faster, a AGP 1x (never used by Apple) is equivalent to the 33MHz, 64-bit PCI slot used in the PowerMac G3 BW and the early G4s -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4
--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: An AGP card is also a lot faster than its PCI equivalent as well. Not all AGP cards are faster, a AGP 1x (never used by Apple) is equivalent to the 33MHz, 64-bit PCI slot used in the PowerMac G3 BW and the early G4s The BW has a single 66MHz 32bit PCI slot, which is dedicated to the video card. It's not dedicated. You can use one of the other 33MHz 64bit slots for a video card, and put another card in that video slot. I did this once with a 66MHz PCI sata card. I figured I was more interested in disk access than video speed on that machine (was used as file sever). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4
-- On Tue, 11/24/09, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: I have a second Rage 128 in my PowerMac G3. I kinds got mixed up there, but oh well. So the question is: do you get different performance from the two cards. I.E. is the speed of the PCI slot the limitation? I think the 66MHz PCI slot is really just a prototype APG slot, and runs the same speed as a 2X AGP. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4
I get about the same performance from them, although Otto Matic is a tad bit slower now that i have the two displays... ): On Nov 24, 2009, at 2:42 PM, John Niven wrote: -- On Tue, 11/24/09, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: I have a second Rage 128 in my PowerMac G3. I kinds got mixed up there, but oh well. So the question is: do you get different performance from the two cards. I.E. is the speed of the PCI slot the limitation? I think the 66MHz PCI slot is really just a prototype APG slot, and runs the same speed as a 2X AGP. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4
I think at the lower end of the scale like a 16mb 2 x AGP vs a 16mb PCI card there would be very little difference but when you start to compare a 128mb PCI vs a 128mb 4 x AGP card there would be a much bigger disparity in performance. See here for a comparison http://www.cs.umd.edu/class/fall2001/cmsc411/projects/agp/pci_vs_agp.htm In this case for Gorka , I mentioned these upper end ATI and nVidia cards ( for a GigE anyway )because he sounded like he wanted a big increase in pixel pushing power. Stewie From: kasm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:05:22 -0700 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I get about the same performance from them, although Otto Matic is a tad bit slower now that i have the two displays... ): On Nov 24, 2009, at 2:42 PM, John Niven wrote: -- On Tue, 11/24/09, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: I have a second Rage 128 in my PowerMac G3. I kinds got mixed up there, but oh well. So the question is: do you get different performance from the two cards. I.E. is the speed of the PCI slot the limitation? I think the 66MHz PCI slot is really just a prototype APG slot, and runs the same speed as a 2X AGP. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list _ Looking for a date? View photos of singles in your area! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4
I`m slowly upgrading an old G4 Gigabit Ethernet for the young son of a friend. I have already maxed out the memory through the LEM swapt list and it works much better with 2Gb of RAM (the system is currently running OS 10.4.11). It is still used to play games and the original ATI Rage 128 with 16mb VRAM isn`t up to the task of running Medal of Honor as fluidly as it should. Being not too familiar with this model, and after a Google search, I`m looking for advice on how to upgrade the video card. As I have been able to check, this model only has an AGP x2 slot for video cards, plus the PCIs. The ATI Radeon 7500 Mac Edition seems to be compatible, but at 32Mb doesn`t seems to provide much advantage for mid-2000s needs! Has anybody proceeded with such upgrade and, if so, which cards have been used? I guess going for PCI would be better, although I`m not sure the speed of the PCI slots of this model can run modern cards. Thanks! Gorka from Spain. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4
A flashed Radeon 9800 256mb card off ebay will set you back $200 but is probably the best you could get for a 2X AGP slot. It depends on how much you want to spend too. A 128mb version of the same card would set you back $125 or more. I just bought a flashed nVidia 6200 256mb for my 2X AGP Cube and is quite good too and at only Au$99 is pretty good value in my opinion. Don't forget these are flashed PC cards. Retail Mac versions of the same video cards are probably double that at least. An AGP card is also a lot faster than its PCI equivalent as well. Stewie From: g...@gmx.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Video upgrade options for a Gigabit Ethernet G4 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:08:03 +0100 I`m slowly upgrading an old G4 Gigabit Ethernet for the young son of a friend. I have already maxed out the memory through the LEM swapt list and it works much better with 2Gb of RAM (the system is currently running OS 10.4.11). It is still used to play games and the original ATI Rage 128 with 16mb VRAM isn`t up to the task of running Medal of Honor as fluidly as it should. Being not too familiar with this model, and after a Google search, I`m looking for advice on how to upgrade the video card. As I have been able to check, this model only has an AGP x2 slot for video cards, plus the PCIs. The ATI Radeon 7500 Mac Edition seems to be compatible, but at 32Mb doesn`t seems to provide much advantage for mid-2000s needs! Has anybody proceeded with such upgrade and, if so, which cards have been used? I guess going for PCI would be better, although I`m not sure the speed of the PCI slots of this model can run modern cards. Thanks! Gorka from Spain. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list _ Download new and classic emoticon packs at Emoticon World Brought to you exclusively by Windows Live http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/emoticon.aspx? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Newbie! Memory and Video card upgrade for G4 dual 867Mhz PowerPc
I usppose he can use a crossover cable to connect both computers and move things form one to the other. I just did that between my XP and iMac On Nov 12, 6:14 am, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Patrick Lee wrote: Hi! I'm TOTALLY new to Mac, so pardon me if I sound clueless! I have a G4 dual 867Mhz with nVidia 32MB AGP display, running Mac OS 10.3.9. I'd like to upgrade to OS 10.5. Therefore, I'm thinking of upgrading the RAM to 2GB, which is the max. 1. What's the memory stick that I can use? 512MBper stick or 1GB or 2GB? 2. For the VRAM, is 32MB the max? 3. How can I upgrade my 60GB HDD to 160GB? Any 3.5 IDE HDD will do? Can I do clone my existing HDD to the new HDD without re-installing everything? If yes, how/what software do I use? I'm also thinking of replacing the DVD-ROM with a DVD-RW. Will any DVD-writer do? Appreciate some advice on this. Thanks. Patrick. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list Im not sure about the RAM, but if it has 4 slots it probably takes 512MB sticks in each. To upgrade the VRAM, you need a new video card. The optical drive is standard, but not all drives have burning support in OSX. Fo those drives that don't there's PatchBurn (google it.) And finally, you will need an external enclosure for moving stuff from the old hard drive ot the new one. Any hard drive will do for the internal. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Newbie! Memory and Video card upgrade for G4 dual 867Mhz PowerPc
Hi! I'm TOTALLY new to Mac, so pardon me if I sound clueless! I have a G4 dual 867Mhz with nVidia 32MB AGP display, running Mac OS 10.3.9. I'd like to upgrade to OS 10.5. Therefore, I'm thinking of upgrading the RAM to 2GB, which is the max. 1. What's the memory stick that I can use? 512MBper stick or 1GB or 2GB? 2. For the VRAM, is 32MB the max? 3. How can I upgrade my 60GB HDD to 160GB? Any 3.5 IDE HDD will do? Can I do clone my existing HDD to the new HDD without re-installing everything? If yes, how/what software do I use? I'm also thinking of replacing the DVD-ROM with a DVD-RW. Will any DVD-writer do? Appreciate some advice on this. Thanks. Patrick. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Newbie! Memory and Video card upgrade for G4 dual 867Mhz PowerPc
On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Patrick Lee wrote: Hi! I'm TOTALLY new to Mac, so pardon me if I sound clueless! I have a G4 dual 867Mhz with nVidia 32MB AGP display, running Mac OS 10.3.9. I'd like to upgrade to OS 10.5. Therefore, I'm thinking of upgrading the RAM to 2GB, which is the max. 1. What's the memory stick that I can use? 512MBper stick or 1GB or 2GB? 2. For the VRAM, is 32MB the max? 3. How can I upgrade my 60GB HDD to 160GB? Any 3.5 IDE HDD will do? Can I do clone my existing HDD to the new HDD without re-installing everything? If yes, how/what software do I use? I'm also thinking of replacing the DVD-ROM with a DVD-RW. Will any DVD-writer do? Appreciate some advice on this. Thanks. Patrick. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list Im not sure about the RAM, but if it has 4 slots it probably takes 512MB sticks in each. To upgrade the VRAM, you need a new video card. The optical drive is standard, but not all drives have burning support in OSX. Fo those drives that don't there's PatchBurn (google it.) And finally, you will need an external enclosure for moving stuff from the old hard drive ot the new one. Any hard drive will do for the internal. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Newbie! Memory and Video card upgrade for G4 dual 867Mhz PowerPc
It is not necessary although might be preferable to have to use an external HD for moving stuff from the old hard drive ot the new one. Your internal HD is probably identified via jumpers as Master. Any IDE HD can be installed as a slave, assuming that the ribbon cable and power supply are available in your machine (they should be). After installing a slave HD, and initializing and reformating HFS+ and as you please (I.E. - with or without partitions), then download CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner) on your Master HD by going to Google and typing Carbon Copy Cloner and then slecting Carbon Copy Cloner Mac. I got 101,000 hits and here is the very first link. Carbon Copy Cloner - HomeExplore Carbon copy cloner · Support · Download · Home Features Support Donate Contact © 2002-2009 Bombich Software, LLC. Carbon Copy Cloner Icon. www.bombich.com/ Download CCC and install as instructed and follow the instructions for copying from the Master HD to the slave HD. After CCC finishes (it might take anywhere from 20 minutes to close to an hour) , you should be able to boot from your slave HD by gooong to Systems Preferences and selecting the slave HD. Good luck. Mel --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Newbie! Memory and Video card upgrade for G4 dual 867Mhz PowerPc To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 6:14 AM On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Patrick Lee wrote: Hi! I'm TOTALLY new to Mac, so pardon me if I sound clueless! I have a G4 dual 867Mhz with nVidia 32MB AGP display, running Mac OS 10.3.9. I'd like to upgrade to OS 10.5. Therefore, I'm thinking of upgrading the RAM to 2GB, which is the max. 1. What's the memory stick that I can use? 512MBper stick or 1GB or 2GB? 2. For the VRAM, is 32MB the max? 3. How can I upgrade my 60GB HDD to 160GB? Any 3.5 IDE HDD will do? Can I do clone my existing HDD to the new HDD without re-installing everything? If yes, how/what software do I use? I'm also thinking of replacing the DVD-ROM with a DVD-RW. Will any DVD-writer do? Appreciate some advice on this. Thanks. Patrick. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list Im not sure about the RAM, but if it has 4 slots it probably takes 512MB sticks in each. To upgrade the VRAM, you need a new video card. The optical drive is standard, but not all drives have burning support in OSX. Fo those drives that don't there's PatchBurn (google it.) And finally, you will need an external enclosure for moving stuff from the old hard drive ot the new one. Any hard drive will do for the internal. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Newbie! Memory and Video card upgrade for G4 dual 867Mhz PowerPc
On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Patrick Lee wrote: Hi! I'm TOTALLY new to Mac, so pardon me if I sound clueless! I have a G4 dual 867Mhz with nVidia 32MB AGP display, running Mac OS 10.3.9. I'd like to upgrade to OS 10.5. Therefore, I'm thinking of upgrading the RAM to 2GB, which is the max. 1. What's the memory stick that I can use? 512MBper stick or 1GB or 2GB? It depends.there were TWO Mac G4's that came with dual 867 KHZ processors: The Quicksilver, which takes PC133 SDAM, and the Mirrored Drive Door which takes PC-2100. ID your model here http://support.apple.com/kb/TA25585? viewlocale=en_US, you cand find out this information in System Profiler. Find your model here http://www.datamemorysystems.com/ it will tell you what memory to get. They also have good prices, and excellent service as well; they're my favored memory dealer. 2. For the VRAM, is 32MB the max? Without replacing the video card, yes. 3. How can I upgrade my 60GB HDD to 160GB? Any 3.5 IDE HDD will do? Can I do clone my existing HDD to the new HDD without re-installing everything? If yes, how/what software do I use? Yes, you can also just add another drive, yes any IDE 3.5 drive will work. The software you want is CarbonCopyCloner http://www.bombich.com I'm also thinking of replacing the DVD-ROM with a DVD-RW. Will any DVD-writer do? It needs to be an IDE tray-loading model, and you may need to apply Patchburn: http://www.patchburn.de/ but yeah, pretty much any DVDRW on up to DVD-DL drives will work with 10.5 -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Newbie! Memory and Video card upgrade for G4 dual 867Mhz PowerPc
Kasey Smith wrote: On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Patrick Lee wrote: Hi! I'm TOTALLY new to Mac, so pardon me if I sound clueless! I have a G4 dual 867Mhz with nVidia 32MB AGP display, running Mac OS 10.3.9. I'd like to upgrade to OS 10.5. Therefore, I'm thinking of upgrading the RAM to 2GB, which is the max. 1. What's the memory stick that I can use? 512MBper stick or 1GB or 2GB? 2. For the VRAM, is 32MB the max? 3. How can I upgrade my 60GB HDD to 160GB? Any 3.5 IDE HDD will do? Can I do clone my existing HDD to the new HDD without re-installing everything? If yes, how/what software do I use? I'm also thinking of replacing the DVD-ROM with a DVD-RW. Will any DVD-writer do? Im not sure about the RAM, but if it has 4 slots it probably takes 512MB sticks in each. To upgrade the VRAM, you need a new video card. The optical drive is standard, but not all drives have burning support in OSX. Fo those drives that don't there's PatchBurn (google it.) And finally, you will need an external enclosure for moving stuff from the old hard drive ot the new one. Any hard drive will do for the internal. What model of G4 is this? An 1st gen Quicksilvers and earlier can't take a 160Gb drive and use all the space without help. You can just make the old HD a slave drive and connect it to the internal interface along with the new HD. Some earlier video cards had VRAM upgrade ability but all the current crop I've seen don't. And those that did usually had propietary memory modules so availability would be iffy. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Newbie! Memory and Video card upgrade for G4 dual 867Mhz PowerPc
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:42 AM, Patrick Lee wrote: Hi! I'm TOTALLY new to Mac, so pardon me if I sound clueless! I have a G4 dual 867Mhz with nVidia 32MB AGP display, running Mac OS 10.3.9. I'd like to upgrade to OS 10.5. Therefore, I'm thinking of upgrading the RAM to 2GB, which is the max. 1. What's the memory stick that I can use? 512MBper stick or 1GB or 2GB? It depends.there were TWO Mac G4's that came with dual 867 KHZ processors: The Quicksilver, which takes PC133 SDAM, and the Mirrored Drive Door which takes PC-2100. ID your model here http://support.apple.com/kb/TA25585? viewlocale=en_US, you cand find out this information in System Profiler. Keep in mind that if you don't know the history then the video card, CPU, HD and RAM may have been replaced. It's best to identify the model by fixed elements of the computer. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige G3 - disable internal video
On Oct 19, 10:00 am, Gary vengefulta...@gmail.com wrote: The video card on it is an IMS Twin Turbo, which I need to use since it has a VGA out port on it, and I don't have any sort of adapter to convert the native Mac video out to VGA. A Radeon 7000 Mac ed. (32 MB) would be the cheapest replacement video card, it will let you run both OS 9 and OS X up through 10.4.11 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Beige G3 - disable internal video
I'm at my wit's end with this beige G3 (300 Mhz, 30GB IDE hard disk, 384MB RAM) that I've been prepping to give away. I've tried installing both Linux and OS X 10.3 on it, but run into what seems to be the same roadblock. The video card on it is an IMS Twin Turbo, which I need to use since it has a VGA out port on it, and I don't have any sort of adapter to convert the native Mac video out to VGA. OS 9.1 is peachy keen using the twin turbo's VGA out, but other operating systems seem to insist on ignoring the PCI video card and just use the internal video. Trying to boot into OS X results in the gray Apple logo with the spinny thing showing up onscreen as it boots up, but then that freezes. Eventually I hear the happy Welcome to OS X for the first time music playing, letting me know that OS X has booted up. And I swear it plays it in a very mocking manner. This g3 is very close to being defenestrated, and then immolated. I'm assuming that the problem here is that at the last moment, OS X decides that it's going to use the internal video and ignore the PCI card. Similarly, I couldn't get Linux to use the twin turbo, even if it kinda sorta saw that it was there. Xorg just refuses to use the PCI card, instead firing up the internal ATI graphics. I've pushed the CUDA button, zapped PRAM multiple times, and tried using the Open Firmware to set the pci-probe-list value to fffb, which a number of sites on the net say is the way to force the G3 to look to the PCI bus instead of internally for the video card. This last bit doesn't seem to take, however... if I use printenv, the pci- probe-list value stays stuck at the default value of -1. Do I have to somehow unlock Open Firmware's ability to set the pci- probe-list values? Is there some other way to force the G3 to ignore the internal graphics and use the PCI card? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3 - disable internal video
On Oct 19, 2009, at 7:00 AM, Gary wrote: I'm at my wit's end with this beige G3 (300 Mhz, 30GB IDE hard disk, 384MB RAM) that I've been prepping to give away. I've tried installing both Linux and OS X 10.3 on it, but run into what seems to be the same roadblock. The video card on it is an IMS Twin Turbo, which I need to use since it has a VGA out port on it, and I don't have any sort of adapter to convert the native Mac video out to VGA. Fuggedaboutit. The IMS card flat out will not run in OS X. Vastly less hassle to simply get a $10 Mac-VGA converter; ask on the LEM Swaplist. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
IM, Audio Video, and Managing Multiple IM Providers (IMP's?)
Me: DA Dual 533, Leopard 10.5.8, 1.5GB RAM, SeriTek/1S2 1TB sata Seagate I've recently been asked to set up an IM to chat with someone on Yahoo, and then I see other friends have the AOL AIM thing. I've also noticed Webcam options ... Now that I've set up 2 accounts, one on Yahoo and another on AOL (ew), how do I manage my IM's for the 2 accounts? possibly more? I've tried Fire 1.5.6 (note: last developed 2006) and it seems stuck on crashing when I try to connect either account under Leopard 10.5.8. I've also started investigating iChat. Is that a multiple client IM app? Any suggestions for Webcams with Video / Audio for a DA Dual 533 under Leopard? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: IM, Audio Video, and Managing Multiple IM Providers (IMP's?)
No idea about webcams, but adium is probably the multi-account IM client of choice On 19 Oct 2009, at 16:57, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Me: DA Dual 533, Leopard 10.5.8, 1.5GB RAM, SeriTek/1S2 1TB sata Seagate I've recently been asked to set up an IM to chat with someone on Yahoo, and then I see other friends have the AOL AIM thing. I've also noticed Webcam options ... Now that I've set up 2 accounts, one on Yahoo and another on AOL (ew), how do I manage my IM's for the 2 accounts? possibly more? I've tried Fire 1.5.6 (note: last developed 2006) and it seems stuck on crashing when I try to connect either account under Leopard 10.5.8. I've also started investigating iChat. Is that a multiple client IM app? Any suggestions for Webcams with Video / Audio for a DA Dual 533 under Leopard? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: IM, Audio Video, and Managing Multiple IM Providers (IMP's?)
On Oct 19, 2009, at 8:57 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: I've tried Fire 1.5.6 (note: last developed 2006) and it seems stuck on crashing when I try to connect either account under Leopard 10.5.8. I've also started investigating iChat. Is that a multiple client IM app? Ichat will work with both. As for a webcam, any compatible USB camera (either expressly or with the macam driver http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/ plus iUSBCam http://www.ecamm.com/mac/iusbcam/ will work with iChat, avoiding the need for expensive firewire cameras. iChat also supports USB Video Class cameras; however, in my experience these cameras are quite expensive. Here's a fairly extensive list of devices http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/#devices it's from the Linux UVC driver page. There's also Adium http://adium.im/ which lots of people like. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3 - disable internal video
Gary wrote: I'm at my wit's end with this beige G3 (300 Mhz, 30GB IDE hard disk, 384MB RAM) that I've been prepping to give away. I've tried installing both Linux and OS X 10.3 on it, but run into what seems to be the same roadblock. The video card on it is an IMS Twin Turbo, which I need to use since it has a VGA out port on it, and I don't have any sort of adapter to convert the native Mac video out to VGA. OS 9.1 is peachy keen using the twin turbo's VGA out, but other operating systems seem to insist on ignoring the PCI video card and just use the internal video. Trying to boot into OS X results in the gray Apple logo with the spinny thing showing up onscreen as it boots up, but then that freezes. Eventually I hear the happy Welcome to OS X for the first time music playing, letting me know that OS X has booted up. And I swear it plays it in a very mocking manner. This g3 is very close to being defenestrated, and then immolated. I'm assuming that the problem here is that at the last moment, OS X decides that it's going to use the internal video and ignore the PCI card. Similarly, I couldn't get Linux to use the twin turbo, even if it kinda sorta saw that it was there. Xorg just refuses to use the PCI card, instead firing up the internal ATI graphics. I've pushed the CUDA button, zapped PRAM multiple times, and tried using the Open Firmware to set the pci-probe-list value to fffb, which a number of sites on the net say is the way to force the G3 to look to the PCI bus instead of internally for the video card. This last bit doesn't seem to take, however... if I use printenv, the pci- probe-list value stays stuck at the default value of -1. Do I have to somehow unlock Open Firmware's ability to set the pci- probe-list values? Is there some other way to force the G3 to ignore the internal graphics and use the PCI card? As Bruce said, the Twin Turbo doesn't work with X. As to Linux have you tried having Xorg configure itself? If it isn't running a shell after boot you need to put a 1 in as kernel parameter to force it into a shell. Get the man page for Xorg and look for the command line argument to self configure it. Then run Xorg with that argument. If that doesn't do it then you will need to create or modify the Xorg configuration file. A web search on this will give you a lot of help (that's how I did it). -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3 - disable internal video
On Oct 19, 1:21 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: As Bruce said, the Twin Turbo doesn't work with X. Oy. Oh well. I did hope it would work because the initial OS X installer ran fine. As to Linux have you tried having Xorg configure itself? If it isn't running a shell after boot you need to put a 1 in as kernel parameter to force it into a shell. Get the man page for Xorg and look for the command line argument to self configure it. Then run Xorg with that argument. If that doesn't do it then you will need to create or modify the Xorg configuration file. A web search on this will give you a lot of help (that's how I did it). Yes, I tried having Xorg configure the card itself, but it just stuck on the internal ATI card. When I did an Xorg -probeonly it only saw the internal ATI, so I suspect if it can't see it, it can't use it. I did set up BootX to use the MSI driver, so I don;t think that's the issue. I found someone's xorg.conf file for the Twin Turbo, and tried using it, forcing Xorg to use the hardware by setting the BusID to the ID the MSI card had in lspci. Still no go, Xorg claimed it couldn't find a valid configuration and croaked (well, fell back into Ubuntu's low graphics mode, which is essentially the same thing since the screen remains blank). I eventually gave up on Linux and moved on to OS X, because all of the sources of info I found were saying that even if you got Xorg running with the IMS card, it would break if you looked at it funny. I'd prefer to hand off a more robust system to someone else. (That, and handing the system over to a Linux newbie would cause issues when they tried to install a kernel upgrade package, and thus cause BootX issues...) I need to get rid of the system soon... I'll look into getting the adapter, but if I can't get one in short order, I'll just have to reformat it using OS 9.1 and call it a day. Thanks for the help! Gary --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sawtooth video issues
On Oct 10, 6:16 pm, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Also, while I have your attention. Do you know of a DVD authoring software; avi to dvd that's even paid for, free would be great. One that does not take 39 hours to make a single dvd. Please don't mention toast to me. I don't know of an application that can speed up the encoding... The best solution is to get a faster computer of course.. but failing that, find an older mac that you can leave on for days at a time who's only job is to convert the avi files to DVD then transfer them over to your mac with the dvd burner and rip it. The last place I saw a copy of visual hub is in the newsgroups.. Good Luck!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Sawtooth video issues
I have an ATI 9200LE in this Sawtooth and I want to update the rom but I can't find the latest one, which is 127. If you have it in your machine, please send me an e-Mail off list. If you know of a non-broken link that I could get it from, please say. I've spent 2 hours working on this and all the links I found led to ATI and were broken. Please, do you know how I could get Quartx Extreme on this card. PCI Extreme did not work. I had to reinstall the OS because it broke it. After applying the patch, it booted to blue screen and nothing. I applied all the boot-up commands, including, reset all open firmware. Also, while I have your attention. Do you know of a DVD authoring software; avi to dvd that's even paid for, free would be great. One that does not take 39 hours to make a single dvd. Please don't mention toast to me. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sawtooth video issues
For simple AVI to DVD authoring, I've found that VisualHub is multiple times faster than Toast. Unfortunately, the developer stopped selling it about a year ago, I'm not sure you can still get it.\ Chance Nestamicky wrote: I have an ATI 9200LE in this Sawtooth and I want to update the rom but I can't find the latest one, which is 127. If you have it in your machine, please send me an e-Mail off list. If you know of a non-broken link that I could get it from, please say. I've spent 2 hours working on this and all the links I found led to ATI and were broken. Please, do you know how I could get Quartx Extreme on this card. PCI Extreme did not work. I had to reinstall the OS because it broke it. After applying the patch, it booted to blue screen and nothing. I applied all the boot-up commands, including, reset all open firmware. Also, while I have your attention. Do you know of a DVD authoring software; avi to dvd that's even paid for, free would be great. One that does not take 39 hours to make a single dvd. Please don't mention toast to me. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sawtooth video issues
On Oct 11, 9:16 am, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: I have an ATI 9200LE in this Sawtooth and I want to update the rom but I can't find the latest one, which is 127. If you have it in your machine, please send me an e-Mail off list. If you know of a non-broken link that I could get it from, please say. I've spent 2 hours working on this and all the links I found led to ATI and were broken. Please, do you know how I could get Quartx Extreme on this card. PCI Extreme did not work. I had to reinstall the OS because it broke it. After applying the patch, it booted to blue screen and nothing. I applied all the boot-up commands, including, reset all open firmware. Also, while I have your attention. Do you know of a DVD authoring software; avi to dvd that's even paid for, free would be great. One that does not take 39 hours to make a single dvd. Please don't mention toast to me. Thanks! If you go here to the MacElite which seems to have taken over from Strangedogs as THE place for flashing PC cards to work on a Mac http://themacelite.wikidot.com/wikidownloads2 then there is the version 127 ROM listed. Good Luck Cheers, Stewie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sawtooth video issues
Awesome! And it's free now! Brian Christmas wrote: G'day Visual Hub is now call 'Film Redux' It's available from http://tinyurl.com/a36m3c * * Regards Santa On 11/10/2009, at 10:41 AM, Chance Reecher wrote: For simple AVI to DVD authoring, I've found that VisualHub is multiple times faster than Toast. Unfortunately, the developer stopped selling it about a year ago, I'm not sure you can still get it.\ Chance Nestamicky wrote: I have an ATI 9200LE in this Sawtooth and I want to update the rom but I can't find the latest one, which is 127. If you have it in your machine, please send me an e-Mail off list. If you know of a non-broken link that I could get it from, please say. I've spent 2 hours working on this and all the links I found led to ATI and were broken. Please, do you know how I could get Quartx Extreme on this card. PCI Extreme did not work. I had to reinstall the OS because it broke it. After applying the patch, it booted to blue screen and nothing. I applied all the boot-up commands, including, reset all open firmware. Also, while I have your attention. Do you know of a DVD authoring software; avi to dvd that's even paid for, free would be great. One that does not take 39 hours to make a single dvd. Please don't mention toast to me. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sawtooth video issues
On 10/10/09 5:49 PM, Brian Christmas wrote: G'day Visual Hub is now call 'Film Redux' It's available from http://tinyurl.com/a36m3c * * Regards Santa Thanks Brian and Chance. Very good suggestions. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Power PC freezes after about 5 or 6 minutes when playing video from internet
(sorry 'bout the reply delay; been dealing with some problems) At 6:00 AM -0700 9/29/2009, Max wrote: [top posting corrected] On Sep 28, 9:56 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:26 AM -0400 9/28/2009, Tray Stephenson wrote: I've got a problem with my 1.8 GHZ G4 PowerPC (2 GB RAM) freezing up after displaying about 5 or 6 minutes of internet video (news broadcasts, general video, etc.). When it does this, I have to restart. There's plenty of available memory on my hard drive, so I can't figure out what might be causing this. My internet connection is hight-speed via cable. This is a Power Mac or ? OS? Fully updated? Browser involved? Media type / plug-ins? G4 PowerMac w/1.8 GHz Sonnet CPU w/2GB RAM) running OS 10.4.11. 4 internal hard drives latest Safari version This is a true freeze - screen does nothing, mouse cursor does not move? Or is it a panic or some other type of crash? Does the freeze occur when you're NOT viewing video? don't think that heat is the issue and the activity monitor indicates that I'm nowhere near maxing anything out. Between the upgraded CPU and the xtra drives - that's a lot of heat. So my first instinct is - what Len said. Try running with the door open and see if that changes the behavior any. Try adding some air flow - a fan blowing in there etc. Find out exactly where you stand wrt heat. Install iStat Menus and enable the temp displays. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Power PC freezes after about 5 or 6 minutes when playing video from internet
Dan: The machine is a G4 PowerMac w/1.8 GHz Sonnet CPU w/2GB RAM) running OS 10.4.11. Browser is latest Safari version and web access is through a cable connection. I have 4 internal hard drives, but use the 40GB WDC WD400BB for most things because it seems the fastest. I don't think that heat is the issue and the activity monitor indicates that I'm nowhere near maxing anything out. I wonder if maybe there's something I need to do to speed things up overall, but haven't a clue as to what that would be. Recently, the screen froze when I had several apps open at the same time (including Software Update) and that was a mess to deal with. Thanks for any help you can give me. Tray On Sep 28, 9:56 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:26 AM -0400 9/28/2009, Tray Stephenson wrote: I've got a problem with my 1.8 GHZ G4 PowerPC (2 GB RAM) freezing up after displaying about 5 or 6 minutes of internet video (news broadcasts, general video, etc.). When it does this, I have to restart. There's plenty of available memory on my hard drive, so I can't figure out what might be causing this. My internet connection is hight-speed via cable. This is a Power Mac or ? OS? Fully updated? Browser involved? Media type / plug-ins? ...Can't really say what's happening unless we know your exact environment. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Power PC freezes after about 5 or 6 minutes when playing video from internet
On Sep 29, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Max wrote: On Sep 28, 9:56 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:26 AM -0400 9/28/2009, Tray Stephenson wrote: I've got a problem with my 1.8 GHZ G4 PowerPC (2 GB RAM) freezing up after displaying about 5 or 6 minutes of internet video (news broadcasts, general video, etc.). When it does this, I have to restart. There's plenty of available memory on my hard drive, so I can't figure out what might be causing this. My internet connection is hight-speed via cable. This is a Power Mac or ? OS? Fully updated? Browser involved? Media type / plug-ins? ...Can't really say what's happening unless we know your exact environment. - Dan. The machine is a G4 PowerMac w/1.8 GHz Sonnet CPU w/2GB RAM) running OS 10.4.11. Browser is latest Safari version and web access is through a cable connection. I have 4 internal hard drives, but use the 40GB WDC WD400BB for most things because it seems the fastest. DING DING DING!!! I think we found the winner You may not be maxing out the processor, but running video is a pretty constant load vs photoshop/writing/regular browsing. The heat generated by a 1.8 plus 4 HDs is probably the culprit. Try running with the side door open and see what happens. FWIW, I had 4 HDs in a DA with a dual 1.2GHz G4. I was getting plenty of random freezes. That was with both of the processors running in the 15-35% utilization per MenuMeters. Opened up the side door and no more freezes. BTW, a 40GB seems the fastest drive out of 4? That is pretty unlikely unless they are all around the same vintage. Have you run any speed tests on them? Are any decent sized by todays standards? If not, replacing them with one or 2 larger drives will get you faster speed and most likely longer life. Even if you don't go SATA and stay PATA, a ata133 card and a couple of 250GB HDs off the swap list will get you a real speed boost and cut down the heat Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Power PC freezes after about 5 or 6 minutes when playing video from internet
Hi Tray, When you say it freezes, does it just stop responding, or does it bring up a mostly grey screen telling you to turn the computer off in a few different languages? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 Power PC freezes after about 5 or 6 minutes when playing video from internet
Is it flash video? Flash seems to eat processor cycles under osx for some reason, so it could be that things are just getting too hot and causing it to freak out. Is there anything else you can do to work the processor (video encoding, or even a batch of using iTunes to convert things from/to mp3 to any other format should do it). If that makes the machine freeze/shut down we'd confirm that it's heat! Install more fans/give everything inside a clean. There might be software methods of keeping things cool, or at least limiting how hard the CPU will work (nap mode), I'm sure others will have more useful input too On 28 Sep 2009, at 13:26, Tray Stephenson tray.stephen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi! I've got a problem with my 1.8 GHZ G4 PowerPC (2 GB RAM) freezing up after displaying about 5 or 6 minutes of internet video (news broadcasts, general video, etc.). When it does this, I have to restart. There's plenty of available memory on my hard drive, so I can't figure out what might be causing this. My internet connection is hight-speed via cable. Thanks for any help. Tray --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
On Sep 23, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Gus wrote: Looking at the picture on the website. It looks like the Radeon 7000 card is an PCI 32 bit card. The Beige G3 has 16 bit PCI slots. Is the card dual 16/32 bit compatible? Yes. That's why I had a 7000, to use in my Beige. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video card install
Date: Tues, Sep 22 2009 4:18 pm From: Jim McGee Hey folks- Getting ready to replace the video card in my Quicksilver 867 (single, pre 2002) and want to make sure that it is done properly. Present card: Rage 128 Pro (16 mb) Replacement:nVidia 5200, AGP (128 mb) Please advise as to the recommended procedure. Turn off your machine, open it, put the power cord back in (the wall socket to off position though) and have everything ready. Touch the metal part of the QS (not any electronics!). Handle both cards by the edges only (just look and don't touch the electronic looking bits). Gently rock the existing resident length-wise till it feels a bit loose and pull straight up then. Reverse action for replacing. Press firmly in. Close up and that's about it. The rest is easy enough when you start up, check your monitor control panel and screens for the correct res and set up. -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video card install
On 23/9/09 07:40, dorayme dora...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Turn off your machine, open it, put the power cord back in (the wall socket to off position though) and have everything ready. Touch the metal part of the QS (not any electronics!). Handle both cards by the edges only (just look and don't touch the electronic looking bits). Gently rock the existing resident length-wise till it feels a bit loose and pull straight up then. Reverse action for replacing. Press firmly in. Close up and that's about it. The rest is easy enough when you start up, check your monitor control panel and screens for the correct res and set up. -- dorayme My quicksilver had an agp spring lock which latches into the corresponding hooked piece on the card - the hooked bit with no pins. You will need to put pressure on the plastic spring to free the card and slide it out. When you put the new card in the spring lock will click into place and hold it firmly in place.mine has now snapped off due to my being heavy handed with it - I don't miss it though. Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video card install
On Sep 22, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Jim McGee wrote: Hey folks- Getting ready to replace the video card in my Quicksilver 867 (single, pre 2002) and want to make sure that it is done properly. Present card: Rage 128 Pro (16 mb) Replacement:nVidia 5200, AGP (128 mb) Please advise as to the recommended procedure. Thanks in advance, Jim McGee Is this from a G5? Has it been hacked to work in a G4? The drivers are already installed in X, so none are needed. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
they had some 7000 mac drivers at the AMD site. http://www.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDHomePage.aspx On Sep 22, 2:41 pm, Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com wrote: Small correction: I just found a nice review of this card, which also says that the drivers come on a CD with the card. Look here:http://www.giantmike.com/reviews/radeon7000.html Good luck! Geke --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Okay... I must have been thinking ISA cards.. I remember now that the ISA cards are 32/64.. Least in my Blue and white. all the pictures are tiny and I cant really get a good look to see how wide it is. The review I was looking at says that it will work in a beige after 10.1.4. which will be fine. Anyways... Thanks for sticking with me as I loose my mind.. LOL Gus. On Sep 23, 7:40 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:26 PM, Gus wrote: Looking at the picture on the website. It looks like the Radeon 7000 card is an PCI 32 bit card. The Beige G3 has 16 bit PCI slots. Is the card dual 16/32 bit compatible? The Beige can use any Mac ROM PCI video card. The only cards that are incompatible are PCI cards with PC ROMs (PC terminology uses BIOS instead of ROM, but they're both simply the firmware stored on a flash EEPROM). Many of the PC ROM cards can be flashed to a Mac ROM so that they will work in a Mac. (see MacElite forums for ROMs guides). There is some difference between new world and old world Macs, such that the GeForce FX5200 PCI that will support QE and CI in a new world Mac such as the BW or Yikes will not support these in an old world Mac such as the Beige or a PPC PowerMac. The Beige will support QE using PCI Extreme 3.1 with any QE compatible card, which means all Mac ROM Radeon cards and some nVidia cards. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Hey Gus, Do you have PayPal? This card would be good for my G4 (see other posts these days about ATI Radeon) and the price is great. So if you could ask the seller to send it to Europe instead of to you, and I can pay you through PayPal (other transfers are too expensive), all can be perfect! Greetings, Geke On Sep 21, 7:13 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: pdimage wrote: On 21/9/09 15:59, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Gus wrote: Also, I bought this card from ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120468674399 I was told this would also alleviate my video blacking problem. Unfortunately, you bought an AGP Radeon 7000. Your Beige G3 only has PCI slots. You need a PCI Radeon 7000. That card will not work or fit in your beige. Len The description is a little wayward but the card seems to be pci - see question at the bottom. The picture is PCI but the description says it's both PCI and AGP. Personally I avoid such vendors, they just don't know what they are talking about. But it's a little late for the buyer / OP. If it hasn't shipped the buyer could try clarifying it with the seller and canceling the sale if it's AGP. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
well if it is an agp card, will it work in my blue and white better than the ATI card that is in there now? Thanks! On Sep 21, 12:13 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: pdimage wrote: On 21/9/09 15:59, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Gus wrote: Also, I bought this card from ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120468674399 I was told this would also alleviate my video blacking problem. Unfortunately, you bought an AGP Radeon 7000. Your Beige G3 only has PCI slots. You need a PCI Radeon 7000. That card will not work or fit in your beige. Len The description is a little wayward but the card seems to be pci - see question at the bottom. The picture is PCI but the description says it's both PCI and AGP. Personally I avoid such vendors, they just don't know what they are talking about. But it's a little late for the buyer / OP. If it hasn't shipped the buyer could try clarifying it with the seller and canceling the sale if it's AGP. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
All I can see is that this is not an AGP card, but a PCI. The only problem could be if the seller charges high shipping costs to Europe. Greetings, Geke On Sep 22, 8:54 pm, Gus gusr...@comcast.net wrote: well if it is an agp card, will it work in my blue and white better than the ATI card that is in there now? Thanks! On Sep 21, 12:13 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: pdimage wrote: On 21/9/09 15:59, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Gus wrote: Also, I bought this card from ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120468674399 I was told this would also alleviate my video blacking problem. Unfortunately, you bought an AGP Radeon 7000. Your Beige G3 only has PCI slots. You need a PCI Radeon 7000. That card will not work or fit in your beige. Len The description is a little wayward but the card seems to be pci - see question at the bottom. The picture is PCI but the description says it's both PCI and AGP. Personally I avoid such vendors, they just don't know what they are talking about. But it's a little late for the buyer / OP. If it hasn't shipped the buyer could try clarifying it with the seller and canceling the sale if it's AGP. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
On Sep 22, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Gus wrote: well if it is an agp card, will it work in my blue and white better than the ATI card that is in there now? Thanks! AFAIK, B W's don't have an AGP slot, so it will not work at all. According to Mactracker, it has 4 slots, 1 of which is a 66MHz one, which is where a PCI Slot type video card would seem to work best. Find out if its a PCI card or an AGP card. According to the eBay correction, it would seem to be PCI. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Never mind, I just opened up my G3, its a half height PCI slot... oi vey... Well, lets hope the guy knows how to hold a camera straight and that is really a pci card and not an agp. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Sorry, please ignore my earlier postings here, I was in a hurry and confused: an auction for just such a card was finishing at the same time. It really looks to be a PCI card so you’re OK. But I suspect I will have to install a driver for it as well. Any clue where I could find such an animal? Does it come standard on the OS X DVD? Will I have to reinstall OS X to get the driver to load? Or is the driver already on my hard drive ready to run once I install the card? And to come back to your question: the card you bought is a Mac version, so OS X should recognize it and automatically install the right drivers. I expect that you can simply plug in the card, start up the Mac, and go to the System Preferences for Displays to choose the screen resolution. I was told this would also alleviate my video blacking problem. It’s your lucky day! Greetings Geke --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Yeah, I remember seeing the correction saying that it was a PCI card and not an AGP card... NEWAYS... Will I have to hunt down drivers for this if I put it my mac, or are they already on the install CD or on the Hard Drive? Not sure how that works. Thanks!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Oh I know what I wanted to ask.. If the ATI Rage card is a PCI card (though be a half height)(is that what they call it when its short? half height.. don't recall) anyways... Would I be better off using the Radeon card in my blue and white and shifting the ATI card over to the Beige G3 (never heard of anyone doing that...) Or does the ATI work better in the BW G3 than in the Beige G3? Never was much of a video card buff. And why do they make the video slot shorter than than the other PCI card slots? Isn't the PCI Bus a wired parallel bus where everything has to run at the same speed on the whole thing and only one card can talk at once? Name: ATY,Rage128y Type: display Bus: PCI Slot: J12 Vendor ID:0x1002 Device ID:0x5245 Subsystem Vendor ID: 0xb530 Subsystem ID: 0x0408 Revision ID: 0x Hardware Overview: Machine Name: PowerMacG3series Machine Model:PowerMac1,1 CPU Type: PowerPC 750 (2.2) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed:400 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 768 MB Bus Speed:100 MHz Boot ROM Version: 1.1.1f4 Sorry to talk your ear off!! Gus. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
Small correction: I just found a nice review of this card, which also says that the drivers come on a CD with the card. Look here: http://www.giantmike.com/reviews/radeon7000.html Good luck! Geke --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Video card install
Hey folks- Getting ready to replace the video card in my Quicksilver 867 (single, pre 2002) and want to make sure that it is done properly. Present card: Rage 128 Pro (16 mb) Replacement:nVidia 5200, AGP (128 mb) Please advise as to the recommended procedure. Thanks in advance, Jim McGee --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Video Driver Question.
How (where) are the video drivers setup and located in OS X.4.11? I have 10.4.11 running on a desktop Beige G3 and when I did the update a program that I use (visual hub) causes the screen to go black. That didn't happen before I installed the updates. I was told that the processor causes the video to crash in these beige desktop systems and that if I restore the old video driver that was there before the update I would be able to get it to work again. Also, I bought this card from ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120468674399 I was told this would also alleviate my video blacking problem. But I suspect I will have to install a driver for it as well. Any clue where I could find such an animal? Does it come standard on the OS X DVD? Will I have to reinstall OS X to get the driver to load? Or is the driver already on my hard drive ready to run once I install the card? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Gus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
On 21/9/09 15:59, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Gus wrote: Also, I bought this card from ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120468674399 I was told this would also alleviate my video blacking problem. Unfortunately, you bought an AGP Radeon 7000. Your Beige G3 only has PCI slots. You need a PCI Radeon 7000. That card will not work or fit in your beige. Len The description is a little wayward but the card seems to be pci - see question at the bottom. Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video Driver Question.
pdimage wrote: On 21/9/09 15:59, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Gus wrote: Also, I bought this card from ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120468674399 I was told this would also alleviate my video blacking problem. Unfortunately, you bought an AGP Radeon 7000. Your Beige G3 only has PCI slots. You need a PCI Radeon 7000. That card will not work or fit in your beige. Len The description is a little wayward but the card seems to be pci - see question at the bottom. The picture is PCI but the description says it's both PCI and AGP. Personally I avoid such vendors, they just don't know what they are talking about. But it's a little late for the buyer / OP. If it hasn't shipped the buyer could try clarifying it with the seller and canceling the sale if it's AGP. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Video card glitchyness
Speaking of ATi cards. I've got a G5 version Radeon Pro 9600 64MB card that has the pins taped to work in my Quicksilver 733. It works, but usually it does not want to work on startup, screen does not turn on. but if I hit the reset a few seconds after the ethernet links up(router on my desk) it works.It'll work fine after that, I can sleep the computer, etc. it's only on cold restart. any ideas as to why that is?I've pulled it out for now, but my wife called me at work annoyed because web images and and such were sluggish so she wants the 9600 back in but I don't like having to hit the reset button when I start the machine up...I'm guessing power issue, has a 1.8GHz upgrade, ATA card, USB 2 card and three HDDs, I could be wrong though. -sam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video card glitchyness
At 3:05 PM -0400 9/21/2009, Sam Macomber wrote: I've got a G5 version Radeon Pro 9600 64MB card that has the pins taped to work in my Quicksilver 733. It works, but usually it does not want to work on startup, screen does not turn on. but if I hit the reset a few seconds after the ethernet links up(router on my desk) it works.It'll work fine after that, I can sleep the computer, etc. it's only on cold restart. The card is probably taking longer to initialize than the system expects. Try booting into safe mode or verbose mode - see if that makes a diff. Since it only happens on a cold start, *shrug* Just live with it. You shouldn't be cold starting that often anyway, especially if sleep works. Since you're switching video cards anyway... take a good look at the slot. Make sure it's clean etc. Ditto for the fingers on the card. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video card glitchyness
On Sep 21, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Sam Macomber wrote: Speaking of ATi cards. I've got a G5 version Radeon Pro 9600 64MB card that has the pins taped to work in my Quicksilver 733. It works, but usually it does not want to work on startup, screen does not turn on. but if I hit the reset a few seconds after the ethernet links up(router on my desk) it works.It'll work fine after that, I can sleep the computer, etc. it's only on cold restart. any ideas as to why that is?I've pulled it out for now, but my wife called me at work annoyed because web images and and such were sluggish so she wants the 9600 back in but I don't like having to hit the reset button when I start the machine up...I'm guessing power issue, has a 1.8GHz upgrade, ATA card, USB 2 card and three HDDs, I could be wrong though. -sam I have the same card in my DA with a QS 867 processor. I have the same issue randomly. I can go for months with it booting fine off of the Radeon, then it will boot fine, but no video. After start up with no video, I give it time to load all the startup apps, hit the power key and return and it shuts down normally. The kludge I have wound up with is the following: I picked up a cheap Rage pci video card off the swap list and installed it. When I get no video on startup, after shut down I disconnect the DVI- VGA cable from the Radeon and connect my vga monitor to the Rage. Start up off the Rage (Radeon is still installed, just nothing hooked to it). After normal startup, shut down and reconnect monitor to the Radeon. 99%+ of the time, it boots fine and I go on my merry way with the accelerated graphics of the 9600. Sometimes I have to repeat the above. There have been times I have had to do the above just once, there have been other times when I have had to do this every day for a week. Then I can go a couple of months before I need to do it again.. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
26pin video -- PowerMac G3 bw
I would like to connect an Olympus microscope via its camera (the Olympus DP70 12.5 million-pixel digital color camera system) to a G3 bw. The digital system has a 26pin female and a 26pin cable. Is it hard to find the correct video card with a 26pin female plug that I can use in the G3, or evenltually in a G5 2.7 x2. No, the original video card has gone, along with the original PC that came with the microscope and I don't feel like buying again the original stuff from Olympus. Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 26pin video -- PowerMac G3 bw
On Sep 19, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: I would like to connect an Olympus microscope via its camera (the Olympus DP70 12.5 million-pixel digital color camera system) to a G3 bw. The digital system has a 26pin female and a 26pin cable. Is it hard to find the correct video card with a 26pin female plug that I can use in the G3, or evenltually in a G5 2.7 x2. No, the original video card has gone, along with the original PC that came with the microscope and I don't feel like buying again the original stuff from Olympus. I'm 90% certain that's a proprietary interface card from Olympus, and I really doubt there's any sort of Mac solution for it. The number of pins is irrelevant, any number of devices might use the same connection. -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 26pin video -- PowerMac G3 bw
On Sep 19, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 19, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: I would like to connect an Olympus microscope via its camera (the Olympus DP70 12.5 million-pixel digital color camera system) to a G3 bw. The digital system has a 26pin female and a 26pin cable. Is it hard to find the correct video card with a 26pin female plug that I can use in the G3, or evenltually in a G5 2.7 x2. No, the original video card has gone, along with the original PC that came with the microscope and I don't feel like buying again the original stuff from Olympus. I'm 90% certain that's a proprietary interface card from Olympus, and I really doubt there's any sort of Mac solution for it. The number of pins is irrelevant, any number of devices might use the same connection. I've just found on eBay this Apple card, what is it? What sort of devices have ever used the DB 26? Is it worth a try? http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=370045290783ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_917wt_930 Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 26pin video -- PowerMac G3 bw
That's most likely an output card. I think the OP is looking for an input card. Chance Beniamino T. Cenci Goga wrote: I've just found on eBay this Apple card, what is it? What sort of devices have ever used the DB 26? Is it worth a try? http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=370045290783ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_917wt_930 Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 26pin video -- PowerMac G3 bw
On Sep 19, 2009, at 7:25 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: That's most likely an output card. I think the OP is looking for an input card. Chance Correct, I feel so stupid! I need a card that gets the input from the camera and send something to the display: so I am linked forever to Olympus! Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
follow up: Re: 26pin video -- PowerMac G3 bw
This the card that I need: if I could know where the hell has gone the original card! Is outrageously expensive. http://cgi.ebay.it/Olympus-AQ8222-PC-Interface-Control-Card-for-DP70-BX51_W0QQitemZ110390492867QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b3c93ec3_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_3715wt_810 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: follow up: Re: 26pin video -- PowerMac G3 bw
I found a listing somewhere for the entire microscope system, including the card, for 26,000$. http://www.caeonline.com/equipment_for_sale.html?equip=72457 Compared to that 1.200$ isn't that bad. On a side note, do you even know if the card is mac compatible? Beniamino T. Cenci Goga wrote: This the card that I need: if I could know where the hell has gone the original card! Is outrageously expensive. http://cgi.ebay.it/Olympus-AQ8222-PC-Interface-Control-Card-for-DP70-BX51_W0QQitemZ110390492867QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b3c93ec3_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_3715wt_810 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: follow up: Re: 26pin video -- PowerMac G3 bw
The whole story is that we have the system but during some remodeling of the lab the PC along with its LCD 15 display got lost... well, someone from the academic community, took it... So now what's left is just the whole Microscope system and since I basically use it as a teaching tool I was thinking to save some money and try to see if a simple video card was enough. Obviously not! Ben On Sep 19, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Chance Reecher wrote: I found a listing somewhere for the entire microscope system, including the card, for 26,000$. http://www.caeonline.com/equipment_for_sale.html?equip=72457 Compared to that 1.200$ isn't that bad. On a side note, do you even know if the card is mac compatible? Beniamino T. Cenci Goga wrote: This the card that I need: if I could know where the hell has gone the original card! Is outrageously expensive. http://cgi.ebay.it/Olympus-AQ8222-PC-Interface-Control-Card-for-DP70-BX51_W0QQitemZ110390492867QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b3c93ec3_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_3715wt_810 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Reflowing 'Book Video Chip BGA and G4 iBook U28 Broken Solder Joints
Nestamicky and others in this group want to know how I've successfully reflowed the ball grid array (BGA) solder to solve video chipset problems in G3 and G4 iBooks and some G4 PowerBooks. I've also used the same technique to reflow the solder and fix the G4 iBook U28 chip problem, and a loose G5 iMac video chip. First, despite the fact there are a couple of companies that advertise reflows on eBay, successfully reflowing BGA solder is an art, not a science. Not even a megabuck reflow station with flux flushing and X-ray capabilities can successfully revive a computer or X-Box or other device with a BGA-installed video chipset that has one or more broken joints. I know, I've paid hard cash to learn that a professional reflow cannot perform a miracle, though it succeeds in enough instances to make it appear that way. That's where art comes in. And the art derives from experience and learning everything you can about a particular logic board in a particular machine. If you pay close attention to an iBook, say, and patiently examine it, test it, stress it, and run a myriad of trial and error procedures, sooner or later you'll arrive at an aha moment where you understand whether it can be repaired successfully using the reflow method, or not. That's about all I can say. If an iBook makes a chime sound at startup, that is a sign of a successful power-on self-test (POST) that indicates the basic machine is OK. (But I've successfully revived iBooks that refused to chime, too, just as I've failed to revive iBooks that did chime.) The next thing to do is run the model-specific Apple Hardware Test. That will tell if the logic board has a video or other problem, assuming the board will support complete booting and then operation. If the board chimes and then crashes, it could be anything. But bad video will shut down a laptop every time, even if it chimes and begins the boot sequence. Beyond all this, the only way to figure out what's wrong is to play around with a completely assembled iBook and gather clues. One technique I use is to remove the iBook's bottom case and inner shield so I can position a screwdriver handle directly under the video chipset. Then I attempt to start the iBook and boot into Open Firmware, which has much less demanding video requirements than an OS boot. If the OF screen doesn't come up when I hold down Command, Option, O and F, I try it again, putting gentle downward pressure on the left palm rest above the video chipset. (I'm careful to not exert too much pressure because the fragile hard drive is directly between the palm rest and the video chipset.) Usually, this gets the OF screen to appear. Then I clear any corruption caused by previous aborted boots or bad-video shutdowns during starts by typing these three lines, hitting the enter/return key after each line is typed: set-defaults reset-nvram reset-all Quite often, the iBook will chime, start, boot and run perfectly when I finish this sequence and hit enter/return the last time. Sometimes I have to keep pressure on the chipset with one hand while I'm typing with the other. Sometimes I have to play around with this process until the right amount of pressure elicits the OF screen and subsequent successful boots. Sometimes I have to use lots of pressure, just short of making the hard drive do zing-zing noises. Once I get an iBook running and it reaches a stable temperature, I usually can remove the pressure as the heat has closed the broken solder gap(s). I then let it run for hours while I run the Apple Hardware Test and/or the appropriate Apple Service Diagnostic disk (G4 and G5 models), and watch for screen artifacts and syptoms. If arcing caused by broken joints has caused internal video chipset damage, it will show as an error during the AHT and the test will stop at that error. That error usually is not fixable with a reflow. So I stop right there and don't waste any more time on that logic board, except to try one reflow in case the error was caused by a broken solder joint and not irreparable damage to a video trace. (Some people have had the chipset replaced with a known-good one, but that's way beyond my capabilities and financial resources.) I also manipulate the iBook during testing and while it's running the AHT. Sometimes all it takes is a slight lifting on one corner to cause video artifacts to appear or invoke a shutdown. But what happens is part of the clue-gathering process, which can go on for hours until I'm satisfied the iBook has told me all it can. The process is time-consuming, frustrating and physically taxing (scrunched over for hours on end, dealing with tiny stuff), and I only do as much of it as needed. What's worse, all too often no amount of time spent can bring success as there often are multiple problems that I have neither the tools nor parts to resolve. That said, anyone who's interested in the G4 iBook U28 chip issue can learn about one person's fix here: http://www.coreyarnold.org/ibook
Re: Reflowing 'Book Video Chip BGA and G4 iBook U28 Broken Solder Joints
On 9/18/09 11:27 AM, Jim Scott wrote: Good luck if you try reflowing, and don't blame me if you fail, as you most certainly will, sooner or later. Just be sure that you're prepared to write off any failure before you begin. On the other hand, the logic board already has let you down, so you've got nothing to lose. -- Jim Scott This entire community join me in sending a BIG BIG HUGE THANK YOU to Jim Scott. For such a wonderful help! I've savored every word. I will read and re-read it. Of course all this stuff is online but to have someone in our community take the time to share a solution in a thoughtful manner, to fix this pesky problem is simply great. Thanks, Jim, thank you very much! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reflowing 'Book Video Chip BGA and G4 iBook U28 Broken Solder Joints
Nestamicky wrote: On 9/18/09 11:27 AM, Jim Scott wrote: Good luck if you try reflowing, and don't blame me if you fail, as you most certainly will, sooner or later. Just be sure that you're prepared to write off any failure before you begin. On the other hand, the logic board already has let you down, so you've got nothing to lose. -- Jim Scott This entire community join me in sending a BIG BIG HUGE THANK YOU to Jim Scott. For such a wonderful help! I've savored every word. I will read and re-read it. Of course all this stuff is online but to have someone in our community take the time to share a solution in a thoughtful manner, to fix this pesky problem is simply great. Thanks, Jim, thank you very much! Yes many a thanks to you sir If I had some money I would give you some as a token of my appreciation but seeing as how I cant even afford a 20.00 inverter board to follow up some moretesting I cannot afford it. Either way Thank you a ton from my part --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Xserve G4 (Tray Load) video card (and other) questions
Ian Prickett wrote: Hi I'm building/rebuilding a tray load Xserve G4 to use as a headless home server and I had a few questions: 1) I'm planning on installing 10.4 or 10.5 via Firewire Target mode from my other xServe G4 (slot load), is this the best way or should I install the o/s onto a spare ADM and the transfer from one xServe to the other? 2) Compatibility question, does any one know if the video cards for these were specific, can I use a card from a Powermac G4 QS (at least to get it up and running) after that I want to use screen sharing to manage it? 3) Does anyone know of a good source for xServe G4 parts other than eBay? 4) Any other gotcha's I should be looking out for? Thanks Wouldn't it be better to set it up using the installer disk? You can do that if you are installing OSXServer. If you do you can do the install and set up without needing a video card in the XServe. The button(s) on the front panel control booting from the optical drive and you then use ARD (or Screen Sharing should work too) to set it up. Otherwise you could do it using Firewire TDM to either install from the CD/DVD or clone it from another computer. You can then boot from the XServe disk via TDM and configure it from the computer you did the install from. I once did the install and configure from an iBook with the XServe's HD mounted via FW TDM. It worked real well and I had no trouble after I had the XServe boot normally. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Xserve G4 (Tray Load) video card (and other) questions
On 9/4/09 6:10 PM, Ian Prickett ian.prick...@gmail.com Broadcast into the ether: 2) Compatibility question, does any one know if the video cards for these were specific, can I use a card from a Powermac G4 QS (at least to get it up and running) after that I want to use screen sharing to manage it? I manage over 30 of those xServes and they will only take up to a 9200 series. But if I were you I would get a copy of ARD and manage it from your desktop's screen. === Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Desktop Technician (ACDT) Apple Certified Portable Technician (ACPT) Apple Certified System Administrator (ACSA) MCSE Certified Technician CCIE, CCNA, CCSP Certified Technician k...@hansen-technical.com www.hansen-technical.com === --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Xserve G4 (Tray Load) video card (and other) questions
It would but the tray-load xServe has no media drive. :) I'm going to try installing 10.4/10.5 client on an ADM in the slot load then transfer it into the tray load and see if it boots, anyone know if this will work? Slot load is a 2*1.33 G4, tray load is a 2*1.0 G4. On Sep 5, 1:07 am, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Ian Prickett wrote: Hi I'm building/rebuilding a tray load Xserve G4 to use as a headless home server and I had a few questions: 1) I'm planning on installing 10.4 or 10.5 via Firewire Target mode from my other xServe G4 (slot load), is this the best way or should I install the o/s onto a spare ADM and the transfer from one xServe to the other? 2) Compatibility question, does any one know if the video cards for these were specific, can I use a card from a Powermac G4 QS (at least to get it up and running) after that I want to use screen sharing to manage it? 3) Does anyone know of a good source for xServe G4 parts other than eBay? 4) Any other gotcha's I should be looking out for? Thanks Wouldn't it be better to set it up using the installer disk? You can do that if you are installing OSXServer. If you do you can do the install and set up without needing a video card in the XServe. The button(s) on the front panel control booting from the optical drive and you then use ARD (or Screen Sharing should work too) to set it up. Otherwise you could do it using Firewire TDM to either install from the CD/DVD or clone it from another computer. You can then boot from the XServe disk via TDM and configure it from the computer you did the install from. I once did the install and configure from an iBook with the XServe's HD mounted via FW TDM. It worked real well and I had no trouble after I had the XServe boot normally. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Xserve G4 (Tray Load) video card (and other) questions
Hi I'm building/rebuilding a tray load Xserve G4 to use as a headless home server and I had a few questions: 1) I'm planning on installing 10.4 or 10.5 via Firewire Target mode from my other xServe G4 (slot load), is this the best way or should I install the o/s onto a spare ADM and the transfer from one xServe to the other? 2) Compatibility question, does any one know if the video cards for these were specific, can I use a card from a Powermac G4 QS (at least to get it up and running) after that I want to use screen sharing to manage it? 3) Does anyone know of a good source for xServe G4 parts other than eBay? 4) Any other gotcha's I should be looking out for? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Xserve G4 (Tray Load) video card (and other) questions
Ian Prickett wrote: Hi I'm building/rebuilding a tray load Xserve G4 to use as a headless home server and I had a few questions: 1) I'm planning on installing 10.4 or 10.5 via Firewire Target mode from my other xServe G4 (slot load), is this the best way or should I install the o/s onto a spare ADM and the transfer from one xServe to the other? 2) Compatibility question, does any one know if the video cards for these were specific, can I use a card from a Powermac G4 QS (at least to get it up and running) after that I want to use screen sharing to manage it? 3) Does anyone know of a good source for xServe G4 parts other than eBay? LEM swap, especially Chris Stierman and ? Bullock in Missouri 4) Any other gotcha's I should be looking out for? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Xserve G4 (Tray Load) video card (and other) questions
Ian, I might be one of the few here with Xserve experience! I have a closet next to my hobby room. I installed a plastic pipe joining the two spaces big enough to pass cabling through. I got a used open four post 19 rack and put it in the closet. Somehow I started filling the rack :-) I figured that would be neater than having desktop Macs everywhere! My cable internet modem is hooked to an G5 Xserve, which runs Tiger server and does DNS, DHCP, and routing via a 16 port switch and a Linksys wireless access point. At some point I was going to set up a cluster, but then realized that I didn't have anything to run on it! Oh well, I brought most of my Xserve back from the dead. See comments embedded below: --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Ian Prickett ian.prick...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ian Prickett ian.prick...@gmail.com Subject: Xserve G4 (Tray Load) video card (and other) questions To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 8:10 PM Hi I'm building/rebuilding a tray load Xserve G4 to use as a headless home server and I had a few questions: 1) I'm planning on installing 10.4 or 10.5 via Firewire Target mode from my other xServe G4 (slot load), is this the best way or should I install the o/s onto a spare ADM and the transfer from one xServe to the other? Are you going to use the Server versions of tiger or leopard or the standard ones? If the server version, you should know that a serial number is needed, and I believe, is checked via the internet back with Apple. The server software allows remote control of a headless unit. The Admin tools are free to download. I've not done a remote install, because all my Xserve have video cards and I simply plugged in a monitor to get them setup. After that I use remote desktop and server admin to play with them. Since you have a second Xserve, I think installing and then transferring over an ATM is easier if you are just using the standard OS. 2) Compatibility question, does any one know if the video cards for these were specific, can I use a card from a Powermac G4 QS (at least to get it up and running) after that I want to use screen sharing to manage it? The tray load (1st generation Xserve), and slot load (2nd generation) are quite similar in having a pair of pci slots via a small riser board, and a separate third one, that in standard configuration comes with a Gigabit ethernet card (adding to the built-in one). The standard video card was an ATI Radeon 7000 32Mb PCI unit. It came with only a single VGA connector. You can also use the older ATI PCI cards from BW or yikes. The BEST I've tried is a ATI Radeon 9250 with 128Mb :-) The problem is it's only PCI and so your choice is limited (heck it's supposed to be a server)! There is one other little known option. If you are NOT using it as a server, then you only need one Ethernet port, so you can remove the Gigabit card, and the standard 32bit PCI riser, replacing it with an AGP riser (a BTO Apple item - I got one from SmallDog). Then you can install a faster AGP video card, and still have two PCI slots free. I use an ATI Radeon 9250 AGP card in this machine (a dual G4 1.33GHz slot loader). 3) Does anyone know of a good source for xServe G4 parts other than eBay? No. I've gone a little Xserve nuts over the last year so I do have some spare parts. Most came from eBay. Contact me off-list. I have seen some bits on the LEM swap list but you have to remember that these are rare, and looked after by pros who have little respect for an Apples beauty :-) 4) Any other gotcha's I should be looking out for? Thanks It sounds like you already have experience with a slot load Xserve, but if you haven't powered up the tray load then you are in for a shock. You will not want to be in the same room as it!! The later models are fine (if not wisper quiet). One other point. There is no sound section on an Xserve. If you miss that (i.e. using it as a workstation) use a Griffin iMic usb unit plugged into your keyboard. Works great on a pair of headphones or an external amp. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)
I've used HandBrake to convert DVD's to a format that went onto my iPod nano, but I couldn't see how to convert other files. I ended up buying MP4 Converter which seems to do the job, though I have had some audio sync problems which I haven't tracked down yet. --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: From: Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question) To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 11:03 PM On Aug 20, 2:01 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select export then movie to iPod (end Quote) On 8/20/09 6:34 PM, starrf...@valley.net of starrf...@valley.net sent Try Handbrake. It does a conversion appropriate for the end hardware. Quick and clean and files no bigger than they need to be. Free too, if I remember correctly. Rich Yes, I have Handbrake. I will also give that a try. Basically looking for something that shrinks video file size for use in an iPod; surely others have done it? Thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)
On Aug 20, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Dana Collins wrote: Thank you for responding, Bruce. Let's see if I can be clearer. The movie was found on YouTube, and was downloaded as (I am sure) a Flash movie via Perian, then ported to QuickTime. QT's movie inspector says this about the resulting file: H.264 (Perian), 512 x 288, Millions AAC, Stereo, 44.100 kHz With normal size stated as: 512 x 288 pixels (actual) Silly question...have you tried just playing the original on your iPod? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)
John Niven wrote: I've used HandBrake to convert DVD's to a format that went onto my iPod nano, but I couldn't see how to convert other files. I ended up buying MP4 Converter which seems to do the job, though I have had some audio sync problems which I haven't tracked down yet. I believe that ability came about in a relatively recent version of HandBrake. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)
I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select export then movie to iPod, converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded compression as mp3 is to audio?). Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting algorithm? Thanks in advance, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)
On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Dana Collins wrote: I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select export then movie to iPod, converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded compression as mp3 is to audio?). Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting algorithm? It's entirely possible to do this, as QT might well be upscaling the video, because convert .mov to iPod gets you specifically formatted .m4v files. Without knowing what the original specs are, it's hard to tell, but if it was small (320 x 240 or something) it could well have been smaller in the original; .mov files can contain considerable compression as well. To shrink it down size-wise you'll have to use custom settings. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)
On 8/20/09 2:39 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Dana Collins wrote: I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select export then movie to iPod, converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded compression as mp3 is to audio?). Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting algorithm? It's entirely possible to do this, as QT might well be upscaling the video, because convert .mov to iPod gets you specifically formatted .m4v files. Without knowing what the original specs are, it's hard to tell, but if it was small (320 x 240 or something) it could well have been smaller in the original; .mov files can contain considerable compression as well. To shrink it down size-wise you'll have to use custom settings. Thank you for responding, Bruce. Let's see if I can be clearer. The movie was found on YouTube, and was downloaded as (I am sure) a Flash movie via Perian, then ported to QuickTime. QT's movie inspector says this about the resulting file: H.264 (Perian), 512 x 288, Millions AAC, Stereo, 44.100 kHz With normal size stated as: 512 x 288 pixels (actual) What I want to do is shrink it, i.e. Do the same to it as say MP3 or Lame (or yet another lossless compressor - yes, I know MP3 is not lossless per se, but I'm offering an analogy) does to uncompressed audio - would that not be the *intent* of porting such a document to an iPod? To shrink it down size-wise you'll have to use custom settings. In QuickTime? What are some good custom settings? What are others doing to media as they prep it for iTunes marketability? Many thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)
Try Handbrake. It does a conversion appropriate for the end hardware. Quick and clean and files no bigger than they need to be. Free too, if I remember correctly. Rich On Aug 20, 2:01 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select export then movie to iPod, converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded compression as mp3 is to audio?). Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting algorithm? Thanks in advance, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)
Try Handbrake. It does a conversion appropriate for the end hardware. Quick and clean and files no bigger than they need to be. Free too, if I remember correctly. Rich On Aug 20, 2:01 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select export then movie to iPod, converting the format to .m4v - I noticed it took an exorbitant amount of time (27 minutes, when the movie clip is maybe 12 minutes) and then left me with an m4v file weighing in at a whopping 80.5 MB! I was sure the file sizes would be exponentially the reverse (isn't m4v a form of encoded compression as mp3 is to audio?). Does this sound right? Should I be using a different exporting algorithm? Thanks in advance, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is this right? (QT - m4v video question)
On Aug 20, 2:01 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: I have a QT movie (.mov format) showing a demonstration of realtime audio pitch manipulation that I want to use for class lecture. The QT original is at 27.8 MB - thought I'd port it to my iPod Touch for convenience (I use an Apple A/V composite adapter for overhead screen projection on downloaded movies), so, in QuickTime, I select export then movie to iPod (end Quote) On 8/20/09 6:34 PM, starrf...@valley.net of starrf...@valley.net sent Try Handbrake. It does a conversion appropriate for the end hardware. Quick and clean and files no bigger than they need to be. Free too, if I remember correctly. Rich Yes, I have Handbrake. I will also give that a try. Basically looking for something that shrinks video file size for use in an iPod; surely others have done it? Thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G5 PCIe Video Cards
I have a G5 2.3GHz Dual Core with the NVidia 6600 card installed. Apart from an increasingly loud recently-installed Seagate 1TB harddrive, the computer has been blissfully quiet--the fans rarely come on. I just bought a 2.0GHz Dual Core only because it was too cheap to pass up ($330 in the original box in perfect condition). It has the NVidia GeForce 7800 GT card with 256MB DDR3 VRAM as opposed to the 6600 which is merely DDR. The 2.0GHz runs noticeably louder, however, and the constant fan noise I'm not used to must be that big one on the GPU. I had considered swapping the cards but now I hesitate. Will I notice much or a performance increase if I were to install the 7800 or would I just be installing a noise increase? Any Quadro 4500 users out there? Can Mac Pro video cards be used in these G5s? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video card HELP
On Jul 24, 6:35 pm, Allan Castleberry arcastlebe...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to hook up my Gigabit G4, to my Magnavox lcd hdtv, with a DVI to HDMI cable. So far, radeon 7000 and radeon 9000 aren't working. Any suggestions? -- Allan Castleberry Allan, I think the problem is that there are 2 DVI standards, DVI-A (found on older kit), and DVI-D (the newer standard) As HDMI is a digital standard, I think that it will only work with DVI- D as the earlier DVI-A standard is analog rather than digital. However many cards are DVI-I (integrated digital analog) these may or may not work. Wikipedia has a good article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Compatibility_with_DVI That may help point you in the right direction. Ben. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video card HELP
On Jul 25, 2009, at 12:59 PM, beecaretaker wrote: I think the problem is that there are 2 DVI standards, DVI-A (found on older kit), and DVI-D (the newer standard) As HDMI is a digital standard, I think that it will only work with DVI- D as the earlier DVI-A standard is analog rather than digital. However many cards are DVI-I (integrated digital analog) these may or may not work. Wikipedia has a good article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Compatibility_with_DVI That may help point you in the right direction. I believe this is exactly right, the problem is likely related to the type of DVI port. To complicate things, a friend that installs multimedia systems professionally has told me that he's had many cheap DVI-D-to-HDMI cables not work at all, and that simply replacing the cable with a higher quality cable solved the problem completely. I asked him if the symptom was no signal at all, and he said yes, the problem was some cheap cables were completely defective and incapable of ever working. He stressed that in his experience, scrimping on the price of a DVI-to- HDMI cable was not a very good idea. Also, the output resolutions of some video cards don't match the inputs necessary for the TV without using some extra software like SwitchResX or DisplayConfigX. These are not programs for casual users, they can screw up your display and may be difficult to rectify if things go wrong. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Video card HELP
I am trying to hook up my Gigabit G4, to my Magnavox lcd hdtv, with a DVI to HDMI cable. So far, radeon 7000 and radeon 9000 aren't working. Any suggestions? -- Allan Castleberry --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video card HELP
On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Allan Castleberry wrote: I am trying to hook up my Gigabit G4, to my Magnavox lcd hdtv, with a DVI to HDMI cable. So far, radeon 7000 and radeon 9000 aren't working. Any suggestions? Have you tried the VGA port on the TV? I know that when I connected mine (with a Radeon 9000) to my tv it didn't work at first because the video was set wrong. I was able to use VNC (I'd previously set it up for remote control) from my laptop to change the video output to what my TV (Proscan) used (which is 1024 x 768...the computer detected a widescreen resolution 13nn x something, iirc, I only saw it flash for brief moment.) I was going to try a DVI-HDMI solution when I got around to getting a cable. Maybe I'll wait to see if you get it working ... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Video card HELP
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Allan Castleberry wrote: I am trying to hook up my Gigabit G4, to my Magnavox lcd hdtv, with a DVI to HDMI cable. So far, radeon 7000 and radeon 9000 aren't working. Any suggestions? Have you tried the VGA port on the TV? I know that when I connected mine (with a Radeon 9000) to my tv it didn't work at first because the video was set wrong. I was able to use VNC (I'd previously set it up for remote control) from my laptop to change the video output to what my TV (Proscan) used (which is 1024 x 768...the computer detected a widescreen resolution 13nn x something, iirc, I only saw it flash for brief moment.) I was going to try a DVI-HDMI solution when I got around to getting a cable. Maybe I'll wait to see if you get it working ... I've used a DVI-HDMI cable both from a couple of MacBook Pros and from a G4 Mac Mini. The latter has a Radeon 9200 as the built in video (I believe it is). In both cases it worked right off with our Philips TV. It does take a while for the TV and computer to negotiate the screen size and such but it's no more than 20 seconds. I agree it could be the wrong video mode and using VNC is the way to check it. If you have a Leopard machine (besides the one in question) a VNC client is built in. The VNC server is built in to recent OSX versions and is activated in the Sharing System Preference. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Flashing PCI video cards for G4's - tape pins?
On Jul 4, 10:32 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jul 4, 2009, at 5:48 PM, joplinfan wrote: I'm getting ready to flash a BFG / Geforce 6200 and a Radeon 9250... both standard PCI cards... to use in my MDD G4 1ghz towers. Been studying up on the process at The Mac Elite website where it mentions that AGP cards require tape to be placed over some of the pins due to Apple's non standard AGP configuration... but I can't find any info where this would be required for a PCI card. Anyone know? No taping required for any PCI cards, but PCI cards are really NOT the way to go. You want an AGP card in your MDD that supports both Quartz Extreme (QE) and Core Image (CI). No PCI cards support QE CI without using PCI Extreme 3.1 and a hacked ROM for CI support. The bandwidth of PCI is 1/2 AGP. This means any AGPx4 card will have 8x the available throughput of any PCI card. If you're using Tiger or Leopard, forget about the PCI cards and get a nice AGP card. You can flash PC AGP cards if you need cheap. It is possible to flash some PCI cards and have both Quartz Extreme Core Image. No need for PCI extreme or special hacks. I'm running a BW machine upgraded to G4 600 Mhz. It's got a flashed Nvidia 5500 PCI card. I'm running Tiger and the Mac OS sees it as a native Mac Graphic card with QE Core Image. The other nice thing is the BW has one high speed 2x PCI slot for graphics cards is equal to a 2X AGP slot I'm told. The Yikes G4 machine may also have this high speed PCI slot. This is a great solution for the BW possible the Yikes machines. Kris is right an AGP card is a better solution for any machine with an AGP slot. A number of PCI cards can be flashed and run fine with QE CI but are way slower then AGP cards in any machine except the two with fast PCI slots. I know the 6200 cards are being ran by many people as well and I seem to remember the 9250 work also. So if you already have the cards may as well give them a try. Chances are they will work fine just a bit slower then AGP. Depending on what you are using your machine for you maybe happy with them. Some PCI slots are designed slightly different so make sure the card you want to use will fit in the slot in your machine. As already mentioned no need to tape PCI cards. The first card I bought didn't fit the slot in my machine. I had thought that all PCI slots were standard but there are at least two types. The cards look the same but side by side you will see they have a slot/space between the pins on the card which is in a different place for different type slots. There is no marking or name difference for the different slots as far as I can tell. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Flashing PCI video cards for G4's - tape pins?
On Jul 5, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Will S wrote: It is possible to flash some PCI cards and have both Quartz Extreme Core Image. No need for PCI extreme or special hacks. I'm running a BW machine upgraded to G4 600 Mhz. It's got a flashed Nvidia 5500 PCI card. I'm running Tiger and the Mac OS sees it as a native Mac Graphic card with QE Core Image. I don't believe this is true. Quartz extreme is excluded on ALL PCI cards unless the system is patched, which is something you can do manually, or by using PCI Extreme. There may be some Mac ROMs for flashed PC cards that will enable Core Image without needing any other patching, but these ROMs are hacks and not anything normal. I've read that PCI cards which do support Core Image are so slow that it's basically useless as an effect, so the difference between a PCI card and an AGP card is night day. Get the AGP for certain and sell the PCI cards if you have them to buy the AGP. Also, I believe the nVidia FX5200/5500 is almost the ONLY PCI card to support Core Image? Perhaps there's one ATI card also? You can read a little more about the nVidia PCI cards here, but I don't think this is a realistic upgrade path if you have a 4x AGP slot available: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/Mac_PCI_FX5200/mac_PCI_FX5200.html The other nice thing is the BW has one high speed 2x PCI slot for graphics cards is equal to a 2X AGP slot I'm told. No, this is the equivalent of a 1x AGP slot. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Flashing PCI video cards for G4's - tape pins?
On 4/7/09 23:48, joplinfan kawni...@cableone.net wrote: Hi all, I'm getting ready to flash a BFG / Geforce 6200 and a Radeon 9250... both standard PCI cards... to use in my MDD G4 1ghz towers. Been studying up on the process at The Mac Elite website where it mentions that AGP cards require tape to be placed over some of the pins due to Apple's non standard AGP configuration... but I can't find any info where this would be required for a PCI card. Anyone know? Thanks, Steve No taping required but you've picked two problematical cards - the agp 6200 is well known for it's dislike of MDD towers - works ok for the rest of the mac line but not recommended for MDD - pci may be ok - it's a try it and see... http://themacelite.wikidot.com/compatibility There was no 9250 model for the mac so the 9200 rom has to be hacked with the 9250 DID and the flashed 9250 will show as a 9200. The vast majority of the 9200/9250 pc versions were 64 bit wide and the mac version was 128 bit. If your 9250 is 64 bit you will lose half the memory after the flash - so a 9250 128MB card becomes a 9200 64MB mac card and so on Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Flashing PCI video cards for G4's - tape pins?
Hi all, I'm getting ready to flash a BFG / Geforce 6200 and a Radeon 9250... both standard PCI cards... to use in my MDD G4 1ghz towers. Been studying up on the process at The Mac Elite website where it mentions that AGP cards require tape to be placed over some of the pins due to Apple's non standard AGP configuration... but I can't find any info where this would be required for a PCI card. Anyone know? Thanks, Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Flashing PCI video cards for G4's - tape pins?
On Jul 4, 2009, at 5:48 PM, joplinfan wrote: I'm getting ready to flash a BFG / Geforce 6200 and a Radeon 9250... both standard PCI cards... to use in my MDD G4 1ghz towers. Been studying up on the process at The Mac Elite website where it mentions that AGP cards require tape to be placed over some of the pins due to Apple's non standard AGP configuration... but I can't find any info where this would be required for a PCI card. Anyone know? No taping required for any PCI cards, but PCI cards are really NOT the way to go. You want an AGP card in your MDD that supports both Quartz Extreme (QE) and Core Image (CI). No PCI cards support QE CI without using PCI Extreme 3.1 and a hacked ROM for CI support. The bandwidth of PCI is 1/2 AGP. This means any AGPx4 card will have 8x the available throughput of any PCI card. If you're using Tiger or Leopard, forget about the PCI cards and get a nice AGP card. You can flash PC AGP cards if you need cheap. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
How to capture streaming video
Somehow my dvr did not record a show that I regularly watch . However, the network has it on their website. Is it possible to capture the show on my computer? How can I do that? I have a Powermac G5 with the latest updates to the OS and Safari. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to capture streaming video
You could try this method: http://www.thewwwblog.com/download-youtube-videos-safari-browser-mac-os-x.html or you could try using something like Miro: http://www.getmiro.com/download/ On Jun 25, 9:53 am, PETE sabaoth...@yahoo.com wrote: Somehow my dvr did not record a show that I regularly watch . However, the network has it on their website. Is it possible to capture the show on my computer? How can I do that? I have a Powermac G5 with the latest updates to the OS and Safari. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to capture streaming video
On Jun 25, 2009, at 9:53 AM, PETE wrote: Somehow my dvr did not record a show that I regularly watch . However, the network has it on their website. Is it possible to capture the show on my computer? How can I do that? I have a Powermac G5 with the latest updates to the OS and Safari. Pete, Look into SnapzProX by Ambrosia: http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/ If you can see it on your screen you can capture it. Sound included. I missed a premier of Breaking Bad and went to their web and recorded it. Burned a DVD and watched it on TV. If you need to swipe content from a DVD (personal use from a DVD you own, uh huh), SnapzProX will do that as well. Good luck, Dale --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
