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Don't worry Kelly, it's the same with me. Its just a major hole in the
programming. Lol.
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Sent: 08 February 2012 06:27
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Alter Aeo
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Hi thanks, I tried my other radars and they all seem to work, it's just my
exit tracker which doesn't. what happened to the guy outside of the
safezone, did he drop off for a while and let those zombies in :) From:
"Richard Sherman"
Sent
Hi All,
I just created my character on Alter Aeon (I'm a necromancer named Baruko),
and went through a few of the rooms, completing a quest in the process. So
far, I'm very impressed. I'm using the Mush-Z pack to play the game, and
really like the sounds and music. One thing has me stumped, ho
Hmm. I've been looking at your ideas and I think it's an interesting list...
but to be honest the only one I think needs to be in is the one about
projectiles having extended sounds. There are fighters that already do the
position thing. As to projectiles, well, though I think they should be
ex
Hi Dark,
sory for taking so long to respond.
Not all areas have music, but most do. If you can tell me an area that
you don't get music, I can check and maybe find out if it's supposed
to have music or not. Maybe I have missed many messages with msh
questions, bt I'm busy with university lately and
I fixed it.
theres an xml file that decided it wouldn't be found.
installed to my main mush directory. but it had put it in a sub folder.
coppied everything from the sub folder to the main directory and things work
now.
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From: "Jenni Palmer"
To: "Gamers Discussio
I coppied everything to my mush directory, it didn't work.
jaws worked, not sounds.
funny thing running it from default install location, jaws doesn't speak at
all.
no plugins are in that file.
so, I used the exe file and installed it to c:\program files\mushclient
maybe now things will cooperat
thanks john, I might well give that a try,
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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From: "john"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon mush pack, music and ambience not working
Mudmail kurek or post on zt might
Enchant weapon too, but both of them are a little limited as
compared to a full crafting system. Never mind the fact that
enchant weapon has a habit of blowing me up (thank god I'm a
warrior), otherwise I'd've been toasted with that guard.
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From: blindndanger...@aim
Mudmail kurek or post on zt might be faster, he's on there a lot
now.
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From: "dark" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon mush pack, music and ambience
not working
Hi mike.
I was actually hoping oriol would get it on this list, sinse
that's how I've
contacted him be
Hi Michael.
I think the Aztec level of Monkey Business by Draconis is just like the
first Indiana Jones movie, Raiders of the Lost Arc.
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From: "michael barnes"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:30 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Indiana Jones accessible games.
Hey
Hi,
I would agree totally about the fact that alter doesn't get old. I'm at 102
total levels, with around 300 fame, need approximately 50 million or more
experience to level any of my classes fully, and I still love it.
Best,
-Michael.
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From: Mike
Sent: Tuesday, Fe
Hey, does anyone know of any games that is like the Indiana Jones games?
I know about Tomb Hunter, but I was hoping there are more games like this.
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Well John,
remember that I'm a solo player and I'm also in it for the exploration, so
for me, the ambience is great and far less of a problem.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:51 AM
Subject:
you might want to delete your cookies, because it has changed look,
but not any content.to
At 06:57 PM 2/7/2012, you wrote:
This is what I see when I go to the given website:
Welcome to AppleVis
A community-powered website for blind and vision-impaired users of Apple
devices.
Is this what you
checked google for dragon realms, and the one I did find isn't open.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Re Getting Back into Mudding
There's crafting an altar now as well. It's a spell called encha
Ah but that's why theree's so much to do on it. Of course, if
your running solo, exp'll probably be slower. I'm not sure about
you, but when I put my mind to it, I could be leveling at 100
mill per weekend easy.
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From: "Ben" Hiya Kelly, Personally I wouldn't recomme
As far as ambience goes I personally find it a distraction,
particularly when your grouping and tanking. The sounds end up
overlapping the gt notifications or mob percentage beeps.
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From: "dark" alter is awsome, I'm just sorry the ambience issue has put me off
playi
Here's a guess, though only a guess. If you were to take the
alteraeon folder from the mushz installer and put it into your
worlds folder you should be able to run, though the start menu
shortcuts won't be there.
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From: "dark" if you grab the pack from http://www.or
Alter aeon with the soundpack all the way. I don't have the link
for you, but it's on www.alteraeon.com.
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From: "Kelly Sapergia" I'm thinking about getting back into mudding after a few years,
and am now
trying to figure out what MUD to go for. I remember playing
Mi
Haha just wait until it's more efficient to spend 7.5 mill for a
practice than to level. Though in the scheme of things dying
isn't really that bad (can't believe I'm saying that).
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From: "Jenni Palmer" To: "Johnny Tai" ,"Gamers Discussion list"
Date sent: Tue, 7 F
I will check that one out too.
hey, I check them out. sometimes i may play a few levels and come back six
months later.
heh I am odd.
if i could play on every single mud I created an account on every day, I
would be busy all day and get nothin and I mean nothin done.
since I have tried and lik
you can get it from http://www.oriolg.es/mush.php
Hth.
all the best,
Dark.
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From: "Jenni Palmer"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alteraeon mush pack, music and ambience not working
I've played the
I've played there before, and I got bored. where can i get the mush pack
from? maybe i can get into it. I have my phases with muds. So, I play a bit
on one then another, and go back and forth. heck, i log on like four muds a
day for a bit each day right mnow. no, aardwolf isn't one of them. it s
Nothing to argue about we all have our own taste
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:23 PM, blindndanger...@aim.com wrote:
> There's crafting an altar now as well. It's a spell called enchant armor. But
> I'm not going to argue this with you, you have your opinions, and I have
> mine. I'v
I wish I could help, but the code is extremely long. And I really don't want to
go looking through it. I'll see if I can contact him in game for you, if you
like.
Mike.
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:22 PM, "dark" wrote:
> Hi mike.
>
> I was actually hoping oriol would get it on th
There's crafting an altar now as well. It's a spell called enchant armor. But
I'm not going to argue this with you, you have your opinions, and I have mine.
I've never heard of Dragon realms. Maybe a look at it.
Mike.
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Mike Maslo wrote:
> Dragon
Hi mike.
I was actually hoping oriol would get it on this list, sinse that's how I've
contacted him before and why i posted here.
Interestingly enough though, some people on audiogames.net mention having
the same trouble, so it well might be a more general bug with the pack.
Beware the grue
Dragon realms by far for me is the best.
There is more then just killing all the time or questing where you kill some
more.
Not only that but the crafting system is awesome
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Mike wrote:
> That's your opinion, but I'd rather play a well coded game
Ah ok. I find them more annoying then helpful, so just turn them off. I'd get
in touch with Kurek in game, or Oriol out of game, and talk to him about it.
He'd probably know how to fix it.
Mike.
On Feb 7, 2012, at 6:14 PM, dark wrote:
> Because for me tey're a very fun and desireable part of
That's your opinion, but I'd rather play a well coded game like alter, then
some half assed thrown together thing that's got bugs all through it and is
unbalanced. But to each his own.
Mike.
On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Mike Maslo wrote:
> Ultra for me is extremely boring and waste of time
>
>
Ultra for me is extremely boring and waste of time
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Mike wrote:
> I completely disagree. I think that alter is a great mud, no matter what
> level, same with Project bob and others. If you get tired of it, then find
> something else to do. I'v
Hi,
The bug about a zombie spawning inside the safe zone has happened before.
when aprone knows about it, he removes the offender. So no need to remove
and reinstall, it's not you. In fact. There was 2 of them inside the safe
zone. How do I know, my sighted son who plays, told me.
What can you
This is what I see when I go to the given website:
Welcome to AppleVis
A community-powered website for blind and vision-impaired users of Apple
devices.
Is this what you were expecting?
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Behalf Of
Hey, Thomas.
I follow your instructions but Railracer will still not work on my
Windows seven thirty two bit machine. I am also wondering why I keep
getting the same error message when I run Descent into madness.
Both games tell me the same thing which is the path can't be found. I
hope you o
Because for me tey're a very fun and desireable part of the game that I
happen to really enjoy, which contributes hugely to the atmosphere of the
Alteraeon world.
Beware the grue!
dark.
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Hello, I was hoping that someone on here would be of some help!
I heard that I can add and take away computer players, if that is true
can someone please tell me the command?
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Agreed Clemment, it's been an interesting discussion.
Now, moving on, other than obviously voiced text for movelists, menues,
tutorials etc, I'd add the following:
1: positional sterrio audio that alters according to the opponent's relative
position to the player, not the relative position of
Why not just turn them off? They really aren't needed at all.
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 5:22 PM, "dark" wrote:
> Hi.
>
> i mentioned this before, but now I really! want to get it fixed.
> My back ground music and ambience are both just not working properly in the
> game. Both a
I was just going to say... this discussion has probably run its course. As
friends must do, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
But before we wrap up... here's my question. If you were to make a fighting
game that was purely audio-based, what would you add? Besides speaking
Hi.
i mentioned this before, but now I really! want to get it fixed.
My back ground music and ambience are both just not working properly in the
game. Both are turned on and have the right volumes, but when I start off, I
only get ambience.
When I go to another area, the ambience goes, and I
Hi.
I'm afraid we are probably at an empass here.
I myself just feel that however good you are, the larning curve is just far
steeper for a blind person that a sighted person, simply because you lack
all relevant information, and until! that information is present in the
game, from the compan
Sorry again forthe double post, but I do have to agree that tutorials, while
possibly an issue, aren't really necessary... and as to having no idea
what's going on, in most fighting games... that isn't a problem when the
name of the move is being shouted so loud. Gotta love anime for that. hahah
I will agree there. Though I disagree about knowledge of the game itself...
the first day I picked up soul calibur five I brought it home, unpacked it,
and leapt right into story mode... and knew half the moves already. Why?
Because movelists float around the internet well before the game is rel
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Not always. In fact, not at all in most of the older games. In older games
that's exactly why there were FAQ's, because you either had to buy a
separate strategy guide in addition to the game, or do a ton of
experimentation. In the newer games they often include movelists, but they
aren't alway
Greetings Dan.
The link in the email I sent should provide the details you need to make and
post the recording. Most people are just emailing him dropbox links, and
that's probably the best option, though you definitely can still email the
mp3 file to him.
Kai
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Hi Clemment.
I am not saying you personally cannot play such games, or that sighted
people do not use faqs.
i am saying that the amount of time and trouble it takes a sighted user,
from the day he/she gets the game out of the box to the point of acquiring a
certain loevel of proficiency at tha
But that's just it... it isn't any trouble. And you make it sound like we're
the only ones who read faqs when in fact, we aren't. Sighted gamers, once
again, do as much looking up as we do... this is why faqs are there. Command
lists only give special moves and supers, they do not list combos o
shaddow dragon, i repeat, I am not arguing that a blind person cannot be as
good, acquire the skills or anything else.
i am simply saying that such acquisition of skill takes more work! than a
sighted person needs to put in to become equally skilled, which is why the
games are inaccessible.
Hi clemment.
It might be that you have unusual spacial abilities, but I'm afraid I still
disagree on the inequities of information. Obviously, it's something you can
practice and improve at to the point where it is less trouble, but it is the
fact that it's any trouble at all! that makes the di
I have to agree with Clement on this one. When it comes right down to it, we
can be just as good, if not better in some cases, than a lot of sighted
gamers in fighting games. Beat 'em Ups are a different story entirely, those
are side-scrolling stages with multiple enemies where you're fighting
No no, I do get your point. What I was merely pointing out is that it isn't
nearly as hard as you seem to think it is. This isn't just all based on
assumptions, this is based on what I hear from sighted players who I've
talked to, ones who've accepted that I'm blind and still am a halfway decent
Hi not sure if this has happened to anyone else, but I was just playing swamp
and was in the defensive room of Safe Zone when a Zombey appeared infront of
me, and because i couldn't attack him I got killed. Just en case it's not a
but I've taken the game off my computer and am now re-enstalling
I must confess I agree mike.
alter is awsome, I'm just sorry the ambience issue has put me off playing a
little currently, sinse now my guidedog is quite happy and I can take my
attention off her for long periods, i'd love to get back into the game as I
haven't played sinse october!
Beware t
I just skipped all that. Wanted to use my mixer, but was having a bit of
trouble with it, so used my headset with reaper, and had it record straight to
flac and threw them in my dropbox, and emailed them to Kai.
Mike.
On Feb 7, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
> A note of informati
That's a mud that I tried once, and never went back to. Didn't they have a
sound pack? Do they have one for mush? I wouldn't mind giving it another try,
but last time I tried it, the mud was always dead. Nobody around to help out.
Mike.
On Feb 7, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Johnny Tai wrote:
> I'd rec
I completely disagree. I think that alter is a great mud, no matter what
level, same with Project bob and others. If you get tired of it, then find
something else to do. I've been on alter for a few months, and have gotten
several people into it. I have met some realy great friends on their,
Hi Kelly.
if you grab the pack from http://www.oriolg.es/mush.php everythig is there,
including an updater that will download the sounds and music for you.
I'm not exactly sure how to install it into a preexisting copy of
mushclient, though I'm guessing you just install it in the same folder,
Clement, you've just put into words something that's been on my mind for a while
spacial awareness is a verylarge factor in modern fighting games
especially now with the upgrades in sound.
another example is in mk, i try to go the whole fight without using
scorpion's spear as then it will help me g
Hi clemment.
On the issue of information and practice, I'm afraid you've missed my point
rather.
My point is not that a blind person cannot! learn to do combos, get a
feeling for distance etc, quite obviously people can. it is that lacking the
visual information which is available on screen
Hiya Kelly, Personally I wouldn't recommend alter aeon. I've been on there
for a couple years now, and I have to say I'm sick of it. But its ok when
you start, but after a while its just not fun, with the amounts of xp being
ridiculous! For leveling.
Ben.
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From: gamers
ah, aardwolf
i was on there a while back, however stopped when my computer died and
i lost vipmud with all my normal destinations, including cyber
assault! :(
On 2/7/12, Jenni Palmer wrote:
> I play aardwolf. wonder if i could use the spellup plugin type system they
> have, but most muds don't us
I play aardwolf. wonder if i could use the spellup plugin type system they
have, but most muds don't use the tagging system
you can make that output window in mush too, I think heck if aardwolf can
put there help files in a window like that
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From: "dark"
To: "Game
I need to get back in there, but i kept dying and need a few mill in exp to
level. so i lost interest
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From: "Johnny Tai"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting Back into Mudding
I'd recommend cybe
mush isn't designed for the blind. I have plugins that make it work.
aardwolf produced a mushclient setup that will auto cast spells and stuff
for ya. i can zip it and my instructions for making it all work. I did the
plugin adding so all ya do is paste a few files and run my world file for
aar
Hi Dark,
Thanks for the information about Alter Aeon. I'll take a look at it. Where
can the sounds and files for MushClient be downloaded from?
Thanks.
Yours Sincerely,
Kelly John Sapergia
Show Host and Production Director
The Global Voice Internet Radio
www.theglobalvoice.info
Personal Webs
I would recommend alter aeon over at http://alteraeon.com, it's imho the
best mud I've ever played, and is very very helpful toward blind players.
Hth,
-Michael.
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From: Kelly Sapergia
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 1:22 PM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey
Funny, because I find those combos quite easy to do. While I agree that the
sound gives you less information that lets you keep track of your opponent,
you have to do that in your head. If I start a match, I keep in mind exactly
what movements I make and approximately how far I am from the oppon
well, you can use most of the pluggins such as the ones for the output
window in any other mud,
in fact muss is the only one i use at present.
On 2/7/12, dark wrote:
> Hi Kelly.
>
> Alteraeon!
>
> A great fantasy mud with literally thousand of rooms, a completely free and
> unique class system w
Hey, I just went to http://www.applevis.com, and the website was alot
different.
I don't know if the site has been change to another address or if
applevis is nolonger around.
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Hi Kelly.
Alteraeon!
A great fantasy mud with literally thousand of rooms, a completely free and
unique class system where you can learn virtually anything you want, great
writing, and some of the best vi access.
See http://audiogames.net/db.php?id=Alter+Aeon for a more complete
explaanatio
Can we get a list of current profiles so we don't record a profile that's
already in there?
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I'd recommend cyberassault.org port 1.
It's a modern/scifi mud with lots of changes coming up and a dedicated group
of people working on the world every day.
We're easy going and very friendly to new players.
see the website:
www.cyberassault.org
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Hi,
I'm thinking about getting back into mudding after a few years, and am now
trying to figure out what MUD to go for. I remember playing Miriani, but am
not interested in that one at present. Can anyone recommend any other good
MUDs for a beginner? Also, I've got both VIPMud and MushClient,
I tried winfrotz, but it wont run. i get some application error Yeah i setup
a whole new windows account to ensure i was runnin with admin that is a
painful process since i am still in the middle of it.
Nothin i have tried works!
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From: "dark"
To: "Gamers Discussi
I'd like that bryan, sinse even though i voiced the chief and some other
parts, I've not actually heard them in the game yet.
I'll also be glad to come back for airik Ii as well, though i might have the
same problem if the chief and the villain get into a discussion! :D.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
Sean that processor would probably get trashed by tdv. My desktop
is 2.66 duel, and sometimes has a hard time.
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From: shaun everiss Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming laptop / Best config for gaming
only
Hi kara
This be a blast from way back in the quake days.
Sadly I
If you go for a laptop, I'd recommend the dell n15-10, that's
served me well for all sorts of things.
- Original Message -
From: Cara Quinn Am thinking about possibly either getting a devoted Windows
laptop for gaming alone, or running some flavor of Windows
(perish the thought) on my
Same.
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: 07 February 2012 18:18
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The dragon awakes.
I certainly tried the demo on xp myself and had no problems running it.
Bew
Yup. That north path leads to the first real dungeon of the game. I'm
actually considering doing a YouTube Let's Play of the game while i
wait for Jake to Email me the script for Airik II. Because he's hinted
that ye old Sea Captain Baronway will feature much more prominently in
that game and indee
A note of information, it actually took me about an hour to do two full
submissions, which included finding batteries for my r09, loading up the web
page, switching headphones to find the distance sweet-spot to hold the
recorder, recording two complete sets of the phrases in different voice
charact
Hi Kai, I will be submitting my voice, just as soon as it comes back to me,
whether it's the cold in that swamp or what I don't know, but at the moment
my voice seems to be missing, and I sound like a chainsaw! Of course if
it's zombey growls you'd like too I'd be happy to send them along now,
I certainly tried the demo on xp myself and had no problems running it.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The dragon awakes.
i have 10 pin alley and it w
Well Yohandi, such isn't my intention, and actually in a lot of philosophy
books and essays where the structure of your sentences can make a huge
difference to the quality of your argument, there are! indeed such markers
to show emphasis, even if it's not done in works of fiction as much.
so,
Hi Steve and welcome back.
There are two guards, the lieutenant to the south guarding the southern
gate, and the guard on the path to the north.
the Lieutenant tells you the captain has gone north, so obviously you need
to look for him. go north, and the north guard will stop you and ask for t
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I don't know if I have the latest version, I can run the demo on xp just fine.
At 06:15 p.m. 7/02/2012 +0100, you wrote:
While it is really good to hear that Draconis is still here and
working on new projects, shouldn't they make an announcement to
adress two issues with two of their games?
I m
Hi kara
This be a blast from way back in the quake days.
Sadly I killed all that a bit ago, due to the fact I never beat the
game and with aq going down and stuff I never really got it to work
anyway after that.
It all depends on what you want.
Gaming, well win7 would be ok, if you can get it,
i have 10 pin alley and it works fine on XP
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From: "Michael Gauler"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The dragon awakes.
While it is really good to hear that Draconis is still here and working on
new p
I guess I just never saw anything like that before.
And since loads of this stuff is spam I just reguard it all as spam.
To be honest I forgot about the development of something big though
he did mention that publicaly a while ago.
I guess I was expecting more, obviously this is not spam, as ther
That should be taken up with Draconis directly.
(Sent from my iPhone)
On Feb 7, 2012, at 11:15 AM, "Michael Gauler" wrote:
> While it is really good to hear that Draconis is still here and working on
> new projects, shouldn't they make an announcement to adress two issues with
> two of their
Dark,
It's still very annoying. at least I find it so. When you read a book, you
don't see the author getting their point across by putting tons of
exclamations all over the place do you? I've never seen anyone do that so
excessively. as to your Super Liam example. putting that exclamation poin
While it is really good to hear that Draconis is still here and working on
new projects, shouldn't they make an announcement to adress two issues with
two of their games?
I mean the fact that the current version of Ten Pin Alley.
As far as I know it can't be run on XP at all, so you need a previ
Right, unlike another company we know, who should take a tip from him, even
if they email to say new game comming soon.
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From: "Charles Rivard"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
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Well after all this my ps2 doesn't work anymore so it looks like I'll have
to wait and see how I find playing a fighting game. I do still play a few
main stream games but had just never considered a fighting game. My little
boy has a WII and there are a few games that are playable and some games
s
Hi Everyone,
I am kind of an old new member to the list.
Any way heres my question for the group, how do I get past the guard at the
gate? in Airik the Cleric. I got the weapon I learned how to use it I went
into the river and got across and the music changes and I can't get any
where after that e
Greetings List.
I'd like to take just a bit of time to remind you all that Swamp is still
looking for vocal talent contributions. It's been a week since Aprone's post,
and I've so far only got 11 viable voice selections from nine vocalists. That
seems disappointingly few to me, and I'd like to
Hey All, lovely eve to you!
Am thinking about possibly either getting a devoted Windows laptop for gaming
alone, or running some flavor of Windows (perish the thought) on my Macbook Air.
So am wondering what people think might be the best configuration in either
case. I.E. best version of Windo
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