[Audyssey] Three-D Velocity Help

[kelby carlson]

Anyone able to give me some clues on what to do after taking down the
airbase? Several fighters appear and I keep dying even though I don't
hear any missiles or hear the plane getting hit by anything. Is this a
bug?

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Re: [Audyssey] Treasure hunt status?

[kelby carlson]

Is Treasure Hunt currently Abandonware?

On 2/16/17, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> Pardon me if this has beau beaten to death, but, what's the status of the
> treasure hunt game? I'd bought it, but can't play it, as my hardware ID has
> changed. Anything i can do? I'd contacted munawar on twitter but so far no
> reply.
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Re: [Audyssey] The older Games, and, What's that Client Again?

[kelby carlson]

I've had issues running BSC's games on Windows 10 but haven't tried a
virtual machine yet.

On 2/12/17, Danielle Ledet  wrote:
> Thank you. I finally went on the site today and I thought they would.
> So does each MUD require it's own client? I see now their are quite a
> bunch of muds. BTW, the audiogames.net site looks great!
>
> On 2/12/17, Joshua Kennedy  wrote:
>> sometimes running old games in compatibility mode helps.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/11/2017 6:34 PM, Danielle Ledet wrote:
>>> Oh see? That's why I keep machines that may be old but work! All my
>>> machines keep getting broken living here. I don't know how to do this
>>> what you are talking about! Guess I am stuck with online games until
>>> something changes.
>>>
>>> On 2/11/17, Jack Falejjczyk  wrote:
 If they *only* run on xp, they'll only work right if you run xp in a
 virtual machine with vmware player. As for the client, are you
 referring to Mush-z?

 On 2/11/17, Danielle Ledet  wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> I know Josh K will have the answer, but I'm sure most of you will
> also. What about the old games for Win Xp and older? Will they work
> right if I download them to this Win 10 'puter? I do not want to waste
> time downloading and removing non-working programs! And, which client
> has all the cool sounds for Alter Eon? And does it work with other
> muds?
>
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[Audyssey] Old Main Menu Shows

[kelby carlson]

Does anyone know if the old ACB Radio Main Menu episodes from before
2008 exist anywhere? It's said on the website that they'll be put back
up for a long time with no updates.

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Re: [Audyssey] Troopanum on Windows 10

[kelby carlson]

All,

I've looked on the list and everywhere else I can think of but haven't
been able to find a solution to this error anywhere. Please help?



On 1/11/17, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> I've installed Troopanum and WinKit to be safe so I should have
> everything required to play it. When I start the game I get this
> error:
>
> Error 432 File Name or Class Name Not found during automation while
> loading file game intro.
>
> What's going on?
>

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Re: [Audyssey] Asmodean.net down

[kelby carlson]

The one I'm interested in is the Troopanum 2 Review by Jammin Jerry,
mostly for nostalgia (it talks about Jaws 4.0 for goodness' sake.)

On 1/16/17, john  wrote:
> Lori,
> I have a copy of all of these recordings.
> If asmodean.net remains down, just shoot me an email and I'll get them
> hosted somewhere.
>
> --
> From: "lori duncan" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 18:04
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Subject: [Audyssey] Asmodean.net down
>
> Hi guys, I'm trying to access the pipe 2 recordings by Raul Gallegos on
> his website at Asmodean.net, but when I open the page it's coming up
> differently from what it should, and is giving me a download link for
> something I've never heard of.  I'm hoping the site hasn't been given a
> virus, and hope it comes back up soon, because I really love listening
> to those recordings.
>
>
> Thanks from Lori.
>
>
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[Audyssey] Asmodean Back Up

[kelby carlson]

Don't know if anyone saw this but it looks like the site is back up.

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[Audyssey] Games like Civilization

[kelby carlson]

All,

My question is just what the subject sounds like. Are there any
accessible games that are like the Civilization games, where one
builds a civilization from the ground up and deals with enemy
civilizations? I'm thinkin long-term strategy. I'm sure there are some
but I haven't kept up with accessible games in forever.

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Re: [Audyssey] Asmodean.net down

[kelby carlson]

Does anyone have a recording of the Troopanum 2 review? It's not on
the Main Menu site either, unforunately; none of the pre-2008 shows
are.

On 1/11/17, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately that's the only place you could get Jarrod Jicha's
> review of Troopanum 2 as well.
>
> On 1/11/17, lori duncan <lori.dunca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Awww I would love to have them myself too, especially the pipe 2 and lw
>> ones.
>>
>>
>> On 11/01/2017 07:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
>>> Well when I tried the domain has expired so concidder the site down.
>>> No one has seen raul for ages and ages.
>>> I have every recording raul has others may have them to.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/01/2017 12:04 p.m., lori duncan wrote:
>>>> Hi guys, I'm trying to access the pipe 2 recordings by Raul Gallegos on
>>>> his website at Asmodean.net, but when I open the page it's coming up
>>>> differently from what it should, and is giving me a download link for
>>>> something I've never heard of.  I'm hoping the site hasn't been given a
>>>> virus, and hope it comes back up soon, because I really love listening
>>>> to those recordings.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks from Lori.
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Asmodean.net down

[kelby carlson]

John,

Will the compilation ever contain some of the outside reviews Raul hosted?

On 1/16/17, john  wrote:
> Raul's recordings are now available from the audiogames archive... sort of.
> I've uploaded all of the files to the archive's server, and compiled a list
> of links.
> However, actually making pages for them is more work than I can do at the
> moment. Therefore, I offer two ways of accessing the
> files:
> A list of all recordings is available at the following link:
> http://www.agarchive.net/raulList.txt
> This is organized in the order super liam, bsc, GMA, where each game is then
> grouped together, and I'll leave the list up until (a)
> I'm asked to take it down, (b) we launch a recordings section of the archive
> and they're moved, or (c) asmodean.net returns.
> I've also included the list below this message, so you can avoid a step if
> you so wish.
>
> Please note that this is a rush job. Its messy, its ugly, and its probably
> going to stay that way for a while. My apologies in
> advance for any headaches you may acquire. If you want specific recordings,
> shoot me an email and I'll send you direct links to
> those files.
> Here's hoping this can at least function as a temporary home until Raul's
> site comes back.
>
> Best,
> John
>
> ***begin the file list***
>
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/super%20liam/Raul_SuperLiam_Aug28_2006_level1.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/super%20liam/Raul_SuperLiam_Aug28_2006_level2.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/super%20liam/Raul_SuperLiam_Aug28_2006_level3.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/super%20liam/Raul_SuperLiam_Aug28_2006_level4.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/super%20liam/Raul_SuperLiam_Aug28_2006_level5.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/super%20liam/Raul_SuperLiam_Aug28_2006_level6.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/super%20liam/Raul_SuperLiam_Aug28_2006_level7.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/super%20liam/Raul_SuperLiam_Aug28_2006_level7x1.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/super%20liam/Super_Liam_review_Raul.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/blast%20chamber/Christian_Pipe2N_Sep12_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/blast%20chamber/Pipe2_review_raul.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/blast%20chamber/Raul_Pipe2E_Jul20_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/blast%20chamber/Raul_Pipe2E_Sep07_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/blast%20chamber/Raul_Pipe2I_Aug24_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/blast%20chamber/Raul_Pipe2N_Jul28_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/hunter/Raul_Hunter_Jul22_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/hunter/Raul_Hunter_Jul25_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/hunter/Raul_kids_Hunter_Jul20_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/pipe1/Raul_Pipe1E_Aug24_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/pipe1/Raul_Pipe1N_Aug25_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/troopanum/Raul_Troop1E_Aug25_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/troopanum/Raul_Troop2SR_Aug25_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/troopanum/Shannon_Troop2SR_Sep23_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/bsc%20games/troopanum/Tristian_Troop1_Jul18_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/gtc/Raul_GTC_S1_Sep12_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/gtc/Raul_GTC_S2_Sep12_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/gtc/Raul_GTC_S3_Sep12_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/gtc/Raul_GTC_S4_Sep12_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/gtc/Raul_GTC_S5_Sep12_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/gtc/Raul_GTC_S6_Sep12_2006.mp3
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/lw/Raul_LW001_Sep_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/lw/Raul_LW002_Sep_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/lw/Raul_LW003_Sep_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/lw/Raul_LW004_Sep_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/lw/Raul_LW005_Sep_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/lw/Raul_LW006_Sep_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/lw/Raul_LW007_Sep_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/lw/Raul_LW008_Sep_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/lw/Raul_LW009_Sep_2006.wma
> http://www.agarchive.net/recordings/asmodean/gma/lw/Raul_LW010_Sep_2006.wma
> 

[Audyssey] Troopanum on Windows 10

[kelby carlson]

All,

I've installed Troopanum and WinKit to be safe so I should have
everything required to play it. When I start the game I get this
error:

Error 432 File Name or Class Name Not found during automation while
loading file game intro.

What's going on?

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Re: [Audyssey] Asmodean.net down

[kelby carlson]

Unfortunately that's the only place you could get Jarrod Jicha's
review of Troopanum 2 as well.

On 1/11/17, lori duncan  wrote:
> Awww I would love to have them myself too, especially the pipe 2 and lw
> ones.
>
>
> On 11/01/2017 07:20, Shaun Everiss wrote:
>> Well when I tried the domain has expired so concidder the site down.
>> No one has seen raul for ages and ages.
>> I have every recording raul has others may have them to.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/01/2017 12:04 p.m., lori duncan wrote:
>>> Hi guys, I'm trying to access the pipe 2 recordings by Raul Gallegos on
>>> his website at Asmodean.net, but when I open the page it's coming up
>>> differently from what it should, and is giving me a download link for
>>> something I've never heard of.  I'm hoping the site hasn't been given a
>>> virus, and hope it comes back up soon, because I really love listening
>>> to those recordings.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks from Lori.
>>>
>>>
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[Audyssey] Playing Abandonware

[kelby carlson]

All,

Are there ways to configure Windows 10 such that one can play old
Abandonware like the BSC Games or Super Liam? These were things from
my childhood and it'd be nice to be able to play them again.

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[Audyssey] Playing Abandonware on Windows 7

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All,

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[Audyssey] Browser Strategy Games

[kelby carlson]

All,

I'd like to know if there are any games that are similar to Risk, or
perhaps Settlers of Cattan, that it is possible to play in a web
browser. If there are ones that are playable on a PC or an iPhone and
are reasonably affordable, that would be nice as well.

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[Audyssey] Getting Games on Windows 7

[Kelby Carlson]

I would like to get back into audio gaming after a long hyatus.  
Does anyone knowa gdresource to figure ouhow to get old games to 
interfacewith Windows 7? (If something has been written on this 
before, I'm happy to be pointed to it; no need for anyone to 
rehash information if its inconvenient.)


Kelby S.  Carlson

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Re: [Audyssey] Getting Games on Windows 7

[Kelby Carlson]

Thanks, Thom! (I'm a big fan of USA Games, BTW, and have been on 
this list before.)


Kelby



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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:31:49 -0400
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting Games on Windows 7

Hi Kelby,

This issue has been discussed many times on the list, but rather 
than
ask you to go through the list archives I'll just give you the 
basic

rundown on games and Windows 7.

As many games were written in an older language called Visual 
Basic 6,

which no longer ships with Windows 7, one way to get the required
dependencies you need is to go to
http:///www.kitchensinc.net
and download his Winkit setup.  This will install a working 
Visual
Basic 6 runtime and the missing DirectX 8 libraries required for 
many

older games.

Second, as many older games are not UAC compatible you may need 
to
disable it.  To do this do control+escape, typ UAC, into the 
search bar
and press enter.  Set it to 0, and restart.  This will allow the 
games

to save games in
c:\Program Files
and other restricted areas of the OS that were not restricted in 
XP.


Cheers!


On 4/16/13, Kelby Carlson kelbycarl...@gmail.com wrote:
I would like to get back into audio gaming after a long hyatus.
Does anyone knowa gdresource to figure ouhow to get old games to
interfacewith Windows 7? (If something has been written on this
before, I'm happy to be pointed to it; no need for anyone to
rehash information if its inconvenient.)

Kelby S.  Carlson

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[Audyssey] VVery OT: Accessible Music Writing Software

[Kelby Carlson]

The Christmas season is coming up and my family wants to have a 
Christmas list from me.  Now one thing I have been wanting for a 
while is a piece of software (something like Finale, if you know 
what that is) that will allow me to transcribe music and hear it 
played back to me.  I'm looking for something that's accesible 
and fairly affordable.  Does anyone know where something like 
that can be found, or can direct me to where something like that 
might be found?




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Re: [Audyssey] philfer and glulx games

[Kelby Carlson]

I'd be interested in knowing this as well.  Does anyone have tips 
for running Filfre, as well as TADS with JAWS?



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Date sent: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 22:22:53 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Audyssey] philfer and glulx games


Has anyone used the philfer game engine that allows you to play 

the glulx

games off the if-archive?
What is the best way to run the engine and the games?




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[Audyssey] Magic: the Gathering

[Kelby Carlson]

Hi everyone.

I'm wondering if there are any online venues where one can play 
the card game Magic: the Gathering that are accessible to the 
blind.  Does anybody know of any?




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[Audyssey] Interactive Fiction Interpreters

[kelby carlson]

Hey List,

Can anyone give me tips on interactive fiction interpreters? I'm 
using HTML TADS, and I need to know if there's anything I should 
do to set it up.  Is there a way to make JAWS not read the clock 
of the interpreter, as this is very distracting? Does anyone have 
any tips on using Windows interpreters generally?



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Re: [Audyssey] games and religion

[kelby carlson]

I can say, as a Conservative evangelical, that I am absolutely 
sickened by what Nicol just related.  There's idolatry, then 
there's just fun and stories (which, really, is what a lot of 
video games are--stories.) I just do not understand the attitude 
of some religious folks that if you read a supernatural book, 
watch violent television or the like then you're automatically a 
horrible person.  Well guess what? I read and love Harry Potter.  
I also make it a hobby to study mythology and world religions.  
Oh well then, I guess I'm headed straight for Hell.


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Re: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA

[kelby carlson]

How can you avoid running out of oxygen while swimming on expert 
level.


Kelby
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might do you good.


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Date sent: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:30:26 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA


  Hey folks, it's not so hard, I am able to win the game almost 

every time
I play on expert level.  You can kill the cyclop with every of 

your weapons,
of course, arrows and the shotgun are most effective.  Ok, you 

can also use
the machine gun, but you need more amo.  If you have enough 

bullets for the
pistol you can emty the pistol on him, of course ducking while 

fighting and
then standing up and ducking again, then jump back, take some 

potion, and

then even jump at him with the combat knife and finish him off.
  Best regards,
Milos Przic
msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
skipe: milosh-hs
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA



I thought the place where the key was hidden in the mud at the 

edge of
water was nicely done.  Took me awhile sfind it.  What exactly 

does that
whole area look like, I wonder? And is it possible to duck under 

the

harpies' lightning bolts?



Kelby
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might do

you good.



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Date sent: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:59:41 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA



If your memory isn't faulty, the game probably is, unless thomas

coded one of the guns to have a magic attack and I didn't know.

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 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA




 Really? I'm pretty sure I blew him away with a gun, but maybe

my

 memory's faulty.



 Kelby
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 might do you good.



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Date sent: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:33:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA



the guy at the end who sounds like he's walking and who swings a

 sword? He's a giant something or other, I don't know how to

spell

 it.  have to use enchanted sword, dagger or arrows to hit him.

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 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:38 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA




 And man, what an adventure that was.  Finally started using the
 twelve-gauge to blow centaurs and harpies away.  Kept finding
 shotgun ammo and healing potions everywhere, it was the

 luckiest

 thing ever.  It took me a few tries to get to the end.  Tom,

 what

 is that thing at the end of the level that you have to kill? It
 took me a few times before I learned to duck and shoot at the
 same time.  But there's nothing more satisfying than hearing

 the

 roar of the shotgun as it blasts away some giant beastie.



 Kelby



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[Audyssey] Final Conflict Strategies

[kelby carlson]

I just downloaded and have begun playing with Star Trek: Final 
Conflict.  I don't know why, but I'm not always very good at 
these particular strategy games.  I have a specific strategy in 
mind, but can't for the life of me figure how to pul it off.  
Here's what it is:


My ships will fly in a rough v-formation.  Two sovereign-class 
ships will the the points, two will fly close together in the 
middle, and the Defiant will be cloaked in the back for surprise 
maneuvers.  This seems to be a good idea because it would let me 
box in opponents, keep my ships together and have decent 
maneuverability.  But ...  how would I do something like this?


Kelby

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Re: [Audyssey] Final Conflict Strategies

[kelby carlson]

Thanks a bunch, Tom.  I had part of that worked out, but it was 
setting the ship's on the right course that tripped me up.  I 
have a couple more questions.


1.  Is there a way to tell the exact coordinates of a ship? This 
would help me immensely to try and get everything into formation.


2.  Will the v-formation I'm describing work well for shooting 
down the enemy?


Kelby
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might do you good.


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Date sent: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:12:56 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Final Conflict Strategies



Hi Kelby,
Good question.  That particular formation would be fairly tricky 

to set
up, but can be done with a lot of practice.  What I would do is 

send all
of my ships to a staging area, a place to assemble the fleet, 

start two
ships out, wait a move, send the second two ships out, wait a 

move, and
then trail the fleet with the Defiant.  Now, if you want to 

create a v
type for mation you'll have to give the ships different headings 

for a
couple of moves until they spreed out.  For example if you want a 

wide v
formating and you were heading towards Cardassian Space set one 

side of
the formation to a heading of 325 and the other to 45.  After a 

move or
so you would get a v style formation, and then you can set all 

ships to

0 so that they then head straight up the starmap.
HTH



kelby carlson wrote:

I just downloaded and have begun playing with Star Trek: Final
Conflict.  I don't know why, but I'm not always very good at 

these
particular strategy games.  I have a specific strategy in mind, 

but
can't for the life of me figure how to pul it off.  Here's what 

it is:

My ships will fly in a rough v-formation.  Two sovereign-class 

ships
will the the points, two will fly close together in the middle, 

and the
Defiant will be cloaked in the back for surprise maneuvers.  

This seems
to be a good idea because it would let me box in opponents, keep 

my
ships together and have decent maneuverability.  But ...  how 

would I do

something like this?



Kelby


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might do

you good.



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[Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA

[kelby carlson]

And man, what an adventure that was.  Finally started using the 
twelve-gauge to blow centaurs and harpies away.  Kept finding 
shotgun ammo and healing potions everywhere, it was the luckiest 
thing ever.  It took me a few tries to get to the end.  Tom, what 
is that thing at the end of the level that you have to kill? It 
took me a few times before I learned to duck and shoot at the 
same time.  But there's nothing more satisfying than hearing the 
roar of the shotgun as it blasts away some giant beastie.


Kelby

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Re: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA

[kelby carlson]

Really? I'm pretty sure I blew him away with a gun, but maybe my 
memory's faulty.


Kelby
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Date sent: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:33:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA


the guy at the end who sounds like he's walking and who swings a 
sword? He's a giant something or other, I don't know how to spell 
it.  have to use enchanted sword, dagger or arrows to hit him.

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 From: kelby carlson
 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:38 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA




 And man, what an adventure that was.  Finally started using the
 twelve-gauge to blow centaurs and harpies away.  Kept finding
 shotgun ammo and healing potions everywhere, it was the 

luckiest
 thing ever.  It took me a few tries to get to the end.  Tom, 

what

 is that thing at the end of the level that you have to kill? It
 took me a few times before I learned to duck and shoot at the
 same time.  But there's nothing more satisfying than hearing 

the

 roar of the shotgun as it blasts away some giant beastie.



 Kelby



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 might do you good.



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Re: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA

[kelby carlson]

I thought the place where the key was hidden in the mud at the 
edge of water was nicely done.  Took me awhile sfind it.  What 
exactly does that whole area look like, I wonder? And is it 
possible to duck under the harpies' lightning bolts?


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From: Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:59:41 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA


If your memory isn't faulty, the game probably is, unless thomas 

coded one of the guns to have a magic attack and I didn't know.

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 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA



 Really? I'm pretty sure I blew him away with a gun, but maybe 

my

 memory's faulty.



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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:33:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA



the guy at the end who sounds like he's walking and who swings a
 sword? He's a giant something or other, I don't know how to 

spell

 it.  have to use enchanted sword, dagger or arrows to hit him.

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 From: kelby carlson
 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:38 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] I Just Beat MOTA




 And man, what an adventure that was.  Finally started using the
 twelve-gauge to blow centaurs and harpies away.  Kept finding
 shotgun ammo and healing potions everywhere, it was the

 luckiest

 thing ever.  It took me a few tries to get to the end.  Tom,

 what

 is that thing at the end of the level that you have to kill? It
 took me a few times before I learned to duck and shoot at the
 same time.  But there's nothing more satisfying than hearing

 the

 roar of the shotgun as it blasts away some giant beastie.



 Kelby



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Re: [Audyssey] pokemon online RPG?

[kelby carlson]

Can someone give me tips on making this accessible?! I've wanted 
to play this for YEARS but haven't been able to figure out the 
interace!


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- Original Message -
From: Matheus an...@bol.com.br
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:06:58 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pokemon online RPG?



ok guys, get the version 0.9.6 of pokemon netbattle here:
HTTP://www.tvsian.info/netbattle/downloads/Setup096.exe
and the version 0.9.7 get here:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jm63j0
to play, install the 0.9.6, get the 0.9.7, and put the .exe file  

in the folder

c:\program files\netbattle and click yes to replace
there are instructions in english and portuguese in the txt 

version, so

don't worry if you see any strange names in these .txt files.
and almost all of the functional servers are portuguese and they 

for you
logic will have a strange name, but don't worry, try asking in 

the
channel tow, if anyone talk english, i'm almost sure someone will 

do.
and oh my god, searching on the servers instead of pokemon i 

found a

casino game, that is playable with the client, strange!!!
ok if you have problems, just say.
hth.
-Mensagem original-
De: Shadow Dragon elementalult...@hotmail.com
Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Data: Segunda, 9 de Fevereiro de 2009 12:40
Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] pokemon online RPG?


You don't raise your pokemon, you just build a team, picking your 

pokemon's
levels, attacks, evolutions etc.  Then you connect to a server 

and find
another trainer to battle.  Its not really an rpg per say, just a 

competition
game to see who can build the best team.  But its still pretty 

fun for what
its worth.  It'd be cool if someone would be willing to host a 

regular server
for battles, the public netbattle server went down a long time 

ago.


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Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:34 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pokemon online RPG?


Sure...hehe.  How exactly does it work? Can you raise your 

pokemon and

battle them?





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- Original Message -
From: Matheus an...@bol.com.br
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pokemon online RPG?




i found the netbattle game
anyone wants it?
i'll post the link wen i finish downloading it.



-Mensagem original-
De: Shadow Dragon elementalult...@hotmail.com
Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Data: Segunda, 9 de Fevereiro de 2009 08:23
Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] pokemon online RPG?


I've never seen a good pokemon RPG.  The closest thing to an 

online

pokemon
battle game I had fun with was Netbattle, where you could 

connect to a
server or host your own, make a team of pokemon and battle it 

out with

one
of your friends.  It was a bit tough to adapt to but it was 

accessible and
fun.  Don't know that its still aroudn though and don't know the 

url.


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Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:44 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] pokemon online RPG?



Hi



So, here I am, I started playing this game at:
http://tppcrpg.net/
Its quite rediculous, really.  For anyone that knows anything 

about
pokemon, level 4 pokemon, no matter what kind, cannot learn 

hyper beam.

I
mean yeah if your crazy enough to use a tm on one.  So, my 

charmander

kept
getting demolished by these pokemon using crazy attacks.  Not to 

mention,
how exactly are you supposed to battle and make money, and catch 

pokemon
and what not? How do you get to each town? Those are just a few 

of my

questions.
Someone said this game was great - it is to a point until the 

novelty
wears off and it gets so confusing that I had to wait a few 

hours before

I
tried again.


So you register, pick your starter pokemon.  There is no help at 

all to

be
found here.  I can battle a trainer, yay.  Then, suddenly, out 

of nowhere,
it says a wild pokemon appears! So, I start fighting.  This 

pokemon is
level 4, the same as mine.  It uses icebeam.  Seriously...it can 

use ice
beam, flame thrower, surf, and tackle.  Hows that for 

randomness? Then, I
look at my pokemons attacks.  Know what it had? Flamethrower, 

watergun,

tackle, and scratch!


That's when I gave up on it.  Maybe someone else here 

understands it more

than i do.
anyone have any ideas?



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Re: [Audyssey] pokemon online RPG?

[kelby carlson]

I'm not even able to find available servers.  How do I access a 
list of the servers? Is the 0.9.7 upgrade necessary for this? The 
official version on the site only goes to 0.9.6.


Kelby
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- Original Message -
From: Matheus an...@bol.com.br
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:34:27 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pokemon online RPG?



hi man,
now i'm having difficulties to see who is online in the serverr 

of the
game.  sometimes wen i enter, there is a edit field with the 

names of the
players to choose, but many times there is noting, just the 

challenge

option wen i go in the player menu, but no listing...
can you help me please?
i really wana play it!!
thanks so much
-Mensagem original-
De: Shadow Dragon elementalult...@hotmail.com
Para: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Data: Segunda, 9 de Fevereiro de 2009 08:23
Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] pokemon online RPG?


I've never seen a good pokemon RPG.  The closest thing to an 

online pokemon
battle game I had fun with was Netbattle, where you could connect 

to a
server or host your own, make a team of pokemon and battle it out 

with one
of your friends.  It was a bit tough to adapt to but it was 

accessible and
fun.  Don't know that its still aroudn though and don't know the 

url.


--
From: Constantine tcwoo...@shaw.ca
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:44 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] pokemon online RPG?



Hi



So, here I am, I started playing this game at:
http://tppcrpg.net/
Its quite rediculous, really.  For anyone that knows anything 

about
pokemon, level 4 pokemon, no matter what kind, cannot learn 

hyper beam.  I
mean yeah if your crazy enough to use a tm on one.  So, my 

charmander kept
getting demolished by these pokemon using crazy attacks.  Not to 

mention,
how exactly are you supposed to battle and make money, and catch 

pokemon
and what not? How do you get to each town? Those are just a few 

of my

questions.
Someone said this game was great - it is to a point until the 

novelty
wears off and it gets so confusing that I had to wait a few 

hours before I

tried again.


So you register, pick your starter pokemon.  There is no help at 

all to be
found here.  I can battle a trainer, yay.  Then, suddenly, out 

of nowhere,
it says a wild pokemon appears! So, I start fighting.  This 

pokemon is
level 4, the same as mine.  It uses icebeam.  Seriously...it can 

use ice
beam, flame thrower, surf, and tackle.  Hows that for 

randomness? Then, I
look at my pokemons attacks.  Know what it had? Flamethrower, 

watergun,

tackle, and scratch!


That's when I gave up on it.  Maybe someone else here 

understands it more

than i do.
anyone have any ideas?



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Re: [Audyssey] OT: sepstral and e-speak voices was Cross Platform Speech Support

[kelby carlson]

This is getting a little off-topic, so I've changed the message 
to reflect that.  Does anyone know how/where I can get either the 
Sepstral or e-speak voices, as I have heard good things about 
each? And how I can get them co-working with JAWITHS?


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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: jbann...@7128.com, Gamers Discussion list 

gamers@audyssey.org

Date sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:26:33 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cross Platform Speech Support



Hi John,
Smile.  Oh, i know that, but I am really looking for something 

much more
human/realistic for the Tomb Hunter series.  Besides FreeTTS is a 

Java
based TTS Engine and the Tomb Hunter series is written in C#.  If 

I were
going to go through the difficulty of writing a .NET wrapper for 

a
speech system I'd likely do it for something like the Cepstral 

voices or

E-Speak.
Cheers.



John Bannick wrote:

Thomas,


The FreeTTS Kevin16 voice may drive you up the wall but it's 

totally
free, totally IP unencumbered, it's easy to code against, it 

always works,

and it's totally cross-platform.


That being said, the sound is not my favorite either and I'd 

really like
to get the FreeTTS JSAPI interface working.  Then maybe I could 

use Mike
(which we use as a WAV file for our audio splash screen) and the 

other

better voices.



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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed

[kelby carlson]

I still don't understand how to target specific body parts.  Do 
you hold down the number as soon as you press enter on the enemy, 
or before that? I really do not understand it.


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From: Jason Allen evildi...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:45:58 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed


Yes, the latest test version isn't balanced.  However, you can 

seriously tip

the scales in your favor.  Here are some tips:


Dual wield.  Equip the largest weapon you can in each hand.  This 

gives you
two attacks per round.  A two-handed weapon like those large 

clubs the ogres
use is deadly.  You can get an idea how good a weapon is by it's 

description,
but a larger weapon is almost always better than smaller ones.  

So the order
is (for now until more stuff is put in): daggers, short swords,  

clubs, long

swords, and large ogre clubs.


Don't forget to use the potions in your inventory to heal.  

Zombie rot
potions cure zombie rot.  Anytime you're bitten by a zombie, 

you'll contract

the disease, so be sure to use those.


Attack the biggest threat first.  Orcs always have weapons and 

are much
nastier than goblins.  Ogres are extremely dangerous, but slow.  

The wolves
are nasty but usually easy to kill.  Any heroic monster is going 

to be much

harder than usual.


Zombies can only be killed if you destroy their head (and other 

means but I
won't spoil it).  So target their head with the number pad 8, or 

with the

number 8 if you don't have a numpad.


The difficulty will wildly swing back and forth until I get most 

of the

abilities and spells in.



Thanks for testing it!
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[Audyssey] Entombed

[kelby carlson]

Is there still a way for me to test out Entombed? I signed up at 
the forums a long time ago, but never got around to downloading 
the gaste.  Can someone point me in the right direction?


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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed

[kelby carlson]

I downloaded it, but it keeps generating a Microsoft error 
report.  I think all the components are installed, and I'm 
reluctant to fiddle with the thing if it's going to be stubborn.


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- Original Message -
From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 13:49:54 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed



Hi.


entombed now has a mailing list as well as the forum, and it's 

own page on

audiogames.net with a download link for the latest version.



Have fun!



Beware the Grue!



Dark.
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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:49 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed



Is there still a way for me to test out Entombed? I signed up at 

the
forums a long time ago, but never got around to downloading the 

gaste.

Can someone point me in the right direction?



Kelby


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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed

[kelby carlson]

That one actually installed itself when I downloaded the latest 
alpha version.


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Date sent: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:02:33 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed


I'd make absolutely certain they're all installed.  I had the 

same problem

and it turned out I was missing the .net frameworks.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed



I downloaded it, but it keeps generating a Microsoft error 

report.  I think
all the components are installed, and I'm reluctant to fiddle 

with the

thing if it's going to be stubborn.



Kelby
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Date sent: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 13:49:54 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed



Hi.



entombed now has a mailing list as well as the forum, and it's

own page on

audiogames.net with a download link for the latest version.



Have fun!



Beware the Grue!



Dark.
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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:49 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed




Is there still a way for me to test out Entombed? I signed up at

the

forums a long time ago, but never got around to downloading the

gaste.

Can someone point me in the right direction?



Kelby



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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed

[kelby carlson]

Okay, I got Entombed fixed! Now, erm, how do I play it? I don't 
seem to be very successful at fighting, I always get defeated 
rather quickly.  Is there a readme file somewhere or what?


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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:05:20 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed



That one actually installed itself when I downloaded the latest
alpha version.



Kelby
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might do you good.



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Date sent: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:02:33 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed



I'd make absolutely certain they're all installed.  I had the

same problem

and it turned out I was missing the .net frameworks.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed




I downloaded it, but it keeps generating a Microsoft error

report.  I think

all the components are installed, and I'm reluctant to fiddle

with the

thing if it's going to be stubborn.



Kelby
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might do

you good.



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Date sent: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 13:49:54 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed



Hi.



entombed now has a mailing list as well as the forum, and it's

own page on

audiogames.net with a download link for the latest version.



Have fun!



Beware the Grue!



Dark.
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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:49 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed




Is there still a way for me to test out Entombed? I signed up at

the

forums a long time ago, but never got around to downloading the

gaste.

Can someone point me in the right direction?



Kelby



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Re: [Audyssey] Entombed

[kelby carlson]

A lot of the keys in the readme don't work.  I tried to do what 
it said during combat, but it doesn't work.


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Date sent: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:57:13 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed


It's in the Entombed directory in Program Files.  It's not very 

handily
placed and it doesn't explain things quite as well as it could 

yet but it's

there.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed



Okay, I got Entombed fixed! Now, erm, how do I play it? I don't 

seem to be
very successful at fighting, I always get defeated rather 

quickly.  Is

there a readme file somewhere or what?



Kelby
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might do

you good.



--Aslan the Lion





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From: kelby carlson kelbycarl...@usfamily.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:05:20 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed



That one actually installed itself when I downloaded the latest
alpha version.



Kelby
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might do you good.



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- Original Message -
From: Bryan Peterson b-peter...@hotmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:02:33 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed



I'd make absolutely certain they're all installed.  I had the

same problem

and it turned out I was missing the .net frameworks.
- Original Message -
From: kelby carlson kelbycarl...@usfamily.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed




I downloaded it, but it keeps generating a Microsoft error

report.  I think

all the components are installed, and I'm reluctant to fiddle

with the

thing if it's going to be stubborn.



Kelby
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might do

you good.



--Aslan the Lion





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From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 13:49:54 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Entombed



Hi.



entombed now has a mailing list as well as the forum, and it's

own page on

audiogames.net with a download link for the latest version.



Have fun!



Beware the Grue!



Dark.
- Original Message -
From: kelby carlson kelbycarl...@usfamily.net
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:49 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Entombed




Is there still a way for me to test out Entombed? I signed up at

the

forums a long time ago, but never got around to downloading the

gaste.

Can someone point me in the right direction?



Kelby



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Re: [Audyssey] Scifi exploration online game?

[kelby carlson]

I've been meaning to check out Fallthrough.  Is there anything I 
need to do with JAWS to make sure everything's accessible, or 
will it run fine on its own?


Kelby

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Date sent: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 08:29:28 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scifi exploration online game?



Hi zack.


I haven't actually tried fallthrough myself.  on my old desktop, 

whenever I
attempted to run dos programs under xp, I got truly horrible lag 

issues.

On my laptop and new desktop though, these don't seem to happen 

at all.

I'll investigate fallthrough sinse that sense of infinite 

possibilities

sounds deffinately fun.



Oh, and to anticipate questions, it can be downloaded from
http://www.classicgaming.com/ascii/


though they concentrate on rogue and other aski graphics games, 

they also
seem to have some doss text adventure games as well,  

including

fallthrough.



Beware the Grue!



Dark.
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From: Zachary Kline kli...@onid.orst.edu
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scifi exploration online game?




Hi,
   Agreed.  A friend of mine walked me through a brief session 

of Spore a
while back.  The really neat thing was that aforementioned 

procedural
generation along with the uploading of user content.  The two 

combined to
create what were, I gather, very visually distinctive and unique 

worlds.

The sense of possibilities and exploration there was tremendous.
   It's this sense of infinite possibilities which I like about 

Fallthru,

even though that isn't in the scifi mode and isn't multiplayer.
Best,
Zack.



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From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scifi exploration online game?




that would be interesting to create your own universe, 

creatures, etc,

from the user point of view.
I have a friend that has just got spore.
You are able to create life from components, and have a semi age 

of

empires with it.
work through the ages till you get to the space age, and then 

colonise

other worlds, etc.
He showed me part of it it is sertainly interesting.
At 02:13 p.m.  1/01/2009, you wrote:

Hi Dark,


This is something I've been interested in making.  One thing I 

love is
procedural generation.  You can create an entire universe using 

only that.
The trick of course is the game play and making it interesting.  

Right now

it
has to stay an interest only while I work on Entombed.  I'm 

fascinated by

the
possibility though.



Jason



On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 10:49 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:



Hi.


a combination of reading starwars novels, playing Eamon and 

Sryth, and
watching my brother play Final fantasy crysis core on the psp is 

really
getting me in the mood for something scifi, but every online 

game I've
looked at in a scifi setting seems to be either a, galactic 

empire

building
pvp stratogy, or B, galactic ship sales pvp trading!


I must admit i'm getting a litle hacked off here.  for me, one 

of the

major
attractions of startrek, starwars, doctor who, babylon 5 etc is
exploration
of the various worlds, different land scapes and alien races.


of course as these are works of fiction I'm also interested in 

the
characters, the politics etc, but from a purely scifi point of 

view
(particularly in something like Starwars or Doctor who which has 

a

very!
diverse landscape), there's quite a lot of stuff to explore.


I find it completely astonishing that every single scifi game 

has only

focused on the statistical elements of player interaction and/or
combat,
 and to be brutally honest, find it rather silly.  Afterall, 

if

people
want to play the stock markit, they can just pick up the 

financial

times.


while I can see the attraction of pvp combat (though as I've 

said

before
it's not something which interests me at all), I'm amazed that 

nobody

has
developed an online scifi game which does not have this focus.


Admitedly I'm probably expecting a lot, afterall, the only 

things I've
found in the pure fantasy genre along these lines are Sryth and 

various
gamebooks,  and to a lesser extent any of the Logd or KoL 

varients.

smugglers 4 I really like for the non linnier game structure, 

missions

and
backstory, though I'm slightly disappointed that the actual 

planets
themselves don't play a larger part in the game in terms of 

being

unique
locations, and also that there weren't any new systems to go to 

in S4

as
compared to S3.



eitherway though, S4 isn't an online game.


Basically, what I'm looking for is Sryth in space, ie, you have 

your
spaceship, fly around and have adventures, - basically 

sryth, in

space!



If anyone knows a 

[Audyssey] ADOM

[kelby carlson]

Dear List,

For a long time now, I've been wanting to play the game ADOM.  
However, I'm really unfamiliar with roguelike gamq and don't know 
how, as a blind person, to play them most effectively.  Could 
anybody who is experienced offer me some tips or a short tutorial 
oo how to play roguelike games, and ADOM in particular?


Kelby

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Re: [Audyssey] Scifi exploration online game?

[kelby carlson]

I have just downloaded Fallthrough, and ow have the same issue.  
Does anyone know any way of getting Fallthrough to run faster?


Kelby
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might do you good.


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From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 08:29:28 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scifi exploration online game?



Hi zack.


I haven't actually tried fallthrough myself.  on my old desktop, 

whenever I
attempted to run dos programs under xp, I got truly horrible lag 

issues.

On my laptop and new desktop though, these don't seem to happen 

at all.

I'll investigate fallthrough sinse that sense of infinite 

possibilities

sounds deffinately fun.



Oh, and to anticipate questions, it can be downloaded from
http://www.classicgaming.com/ascii/


though they concentrate on rogue and other aski graphics games, 

they also
seem to have some doss text adventure games as well,  

including

fallthrough.



Beware the Grue!



Dark.
- Original Message -
From: Zachary Kline kli...@onid.orst.edu
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scifi exploration online game?




Hi,
   Agreed.  A friend of mine walked me through a brief session 

of Spore a
while back.  The really neat thing was that aforementioned 

procedural
generation along with the uploading of user content.  The two 

combined to
create what were, I gather, very visually distinctive and unique 

worlds.

The sense of possibilities and exploration there was tremendous.
   It's this sense of infinite possibilities which I like about 

Fallthru,

even though that isn't in the scifi mode and isn't multiplayer.
Best,
Zack.



- Original Message -
From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scifi exploration online game?




that would be interesting to create your own universe, 

creatures, etc,

from the user point of view.
I have a friend that has just got spore.
You are able to create life from components, and have a semi age 

of

empires with it.
work through the ages till you get to the space age, and then 

colonise

other worlds, etc.
He showed me part of it it is sertainly interesting.
At 02:13 p.m.  1/01/2009, you wrote:

Hi Dark,


This is something I've been interested in making.  One thing I 

love is
procedural generation.  You can create an entire universe using 

only that.
The trick of course is the game play and making it interesting.  

Right now

it
has to stay an interest only while I work on Entombed.  I'm 

fascinated by

the
possibility though.



Jason



On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 10:49 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:



Hi.


a combination of reading starwars novels, playing Eamon and 

Sryth, and
watching my brother play Final fantasy crysis core on the psp is 

really
getting me in the mood for something scifi, but every online 

game I've
looked at in a scifi setting seems to be either a, galactic 

empire

building
pvp stratogy, or B, galactic ship sales pvp trading!


I must admit i'm getting a litle hacked off here.  for me, one 

of the

major
attractions of startrek, starwars, doctor who, babylon 5 etc is
exploration
of the various worlds, different land scapes and alien races.


of course as these are works of fiction I'm also interested in 

the
characters, the politics etc, but from a purely scifi point of 

view
(particularly in something like Starwars or Doctor who which has 

a

very!
diverse landscape), there's quite a lot of stuff to explore.


I find it completely astonishing that every single scifi game 

has only

focused on the statistical elements of player interaction and/or
combat,
 and to be brutally honest, find it rather silly.  Afterall, 

if

people
want to play the stock markit, they can just pick up the 

financial

times.


while I can see the attraction of pvp combat (though as I've 

said

before
it's not something which interests me at all), I'm amazed that 

nobody

has
developed an online scifi game which does not have this focus.


Admitedly I'm probably expecting a lot, afterall, the only 

things I've
found in the pure fantasy genre along these lines are Sryth and 

various
gamebooks,  and to a lesser extent any of the Logd or KoL 

varients.

smugglers 4 I really like for the non linnier game structure, 

missions

and
backstory, though I'm slightly disappointed that the actual 

planets
themselves don't play a larger part in the game in terms of 

being

unique
locations, and also that there weren't any new systems to go to 

in S4

as
compared to S3.



eitherway though, S4 isn't an online game.


Basically, what I'm looking for is Sryth in space, ie, you have 

your
spaceship, fly around and have adventures, - basically 

sryth, in

space!



If anyone 

[Audyssey] Chosper Challenge Bonus Round

[kelby carlson]

Can someone give me a hint on how to find the Chopper Challenge 
bonus round? I can't figure out how to find the hidden door.


Kelby

Doomed Dragon

It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because 
I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely 
relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to 
think of the universe as basically friendly mainly because of my 
uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is 
quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism 
about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.  
It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes 
without taking in account the psychological and historical 
factors that play upon the individual.

 --Martin Luther King, Jr.
 If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who 
would be foolish enough to fight?


--Rhett Butler

 True or false, that which is said of men often occupies as 
important a place in their lives, and above all in their 
destinies, as that which they do.


--Victor Hugo

It is not true that the saints and the great contemplatives never 
loved created things, and had no understanding or appreciation of 
the world, with its sights and sounds and the people living in 
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[Audyssey] Technoshock Tips

[kelby carlson]

Hey gamers.  Just last night, I downloaded the game Technoshock.  
I'm quite impressed with the sound quality, but am having serious 
trouble DOING anything.  I've gotten the axe, but I can't even 
find the door.  The problem is that my navigator will tell me 
something's right in front of me but I cannot pick it up.  Now, I 
haven't downloaded the update pack, so maybe that's the problem.  
Otherwise, do you have any tips?


Kelby

Doomed Dragon

It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because 
I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely 
relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to 
think of the universe as basically friendly mainly because of my 
uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is 
quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism 
about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.  
It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes 
without taking in account the psychological and historical 
factors that play upon the individual.

 --Martin Luther King, Jr.
 If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who 
would be foolish enough to fight?


--Rhett Butler

 True or false, that which is said of men often occupies as 
important a place in their lives, and above all in their 
destinies, as that which they do.


--Victor Hugo

It is not true that the saints and the great contemplatives never 
loved created things, and had no understanding or appreciation of 
the world, with its sights and sounds and the people living in 
it.  They loved everything and everyone.


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[Audyssey] Dealing with the Insane Blaster in Tarzan Junior

[kelby carlson]

Anybody have any tips on this guy? The sound is so weird its 
impossible to tell where he is.  How can you beat those things 
without pulling your hair out?


Kelby

Doomed Dragon

It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because 
I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely 
relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to 
think of the universe as basically friendly mainly because of my 
uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is 
quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism 
about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.  
It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes 
without taking in account the psychological and historical 
factors that play upon the individual.

 --Martin Luther King, Jr.
 If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who 
would be foolish enough to fight?


--Rhett Butler

 True or false, that which is said of men often occupies as 
important a place in their lives, and above all in their 
destinies, as that which they do.


--Victor Hugo

It is not true that the saints and the great contemplatives never 
loved created things, and had no understanding or appreciation of 
the world, with its sights and sounds and the people living in 
it.  They loved everything and everyone.


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[Audyssey] Three-D Velocity With Guns

[kelby carlson]

Hi List.

I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I couldn't find 
an answer in the archives.  What I want to know is the way one 
uses the guns in Three-D Velocity's Death Match Mode.  The 
documentation explains how to target with missiles, but not guns, 
aand I'm interested to know how it's done.

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because 
I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely 
relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to 
think of the universe as basically friendly mainly because of my 
uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is 
quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism 
about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.  
It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes 
without taking in account the psychological and historical 
factors that play upon the individual.
  --Martin Luther King, Jr.
  If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who 
would be foolish enough to fight?

--Rhett Butler

  True or false, that which is said of men often occupies as 
important a place in their lives, and above all in their 
destinies, as that which they do.

--Victor Hugo

It is not true that the saints and the great contemplatives never 
loved created things, and had no understanding or appreciation of 
the world, with its sights and sounds and the people living in 
it.  They loved everything and everyone.

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[Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

[kelby carlson]

Dear List,

Does anyone know of any MUD clients (a la Monkey Term) that work 
with the free screen reader NVDA?

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because 
I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely 
relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to 
think of the universe as basically friendly mainly because of my 
uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is 
quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism 
about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.  
It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes 
without taking in account the psychological and historical 
factors that play upon the individual.
  --Martin Luther King, Jr.
  If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who 
would be foolish enough to fight?

--Rhett Butler

  True or false, that which is said of men often occupies as 
important a place in their lives, and above all in their 
destinies, as that which they do.

--Victor Hugo

It is not true that the saints and the great contemplatives never 
loved created things, and had no understanding or appreciation of 
the world, with its sights and sounds and the people living in 
it.  They loved everything and everyone.

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Re: [Audyssey] RPG Audio Game

[kelby carlson]

Sounds great! I'd definitely like to try it when you have a basic 
version, as I have a lot of friends who play visual RPG's and 
playing one has been my dream for a while now.

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because 
I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely 
relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to 
think of the universe as basically friendly mainly because of my 
uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is 
quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism 
about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.  
It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes 
without taking in account the psychological and historical 
factors that play upon the individual.
  --Martin Luther King, Jr.
  If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who 
would be foolish enough to fight?

--Rhett Butler



 - Original Message -
From: Jason Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:41:41 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Audyssey] RPG Audio Game

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this list.  Dark at the audiogames.net forums 
recommended that I
post the details of my project here.

I'm currently programming an audio RPG game sort of a cross 
between a
rouge-like (a genre I love) and Final Fantasy.  So far it creates 
random
dungeons with twisty halls and rooms, allows you to navigate the 
dungeon
with audio, and offers preliminary combat, inventory, and 
equipment.

The rogue-like elements are random dungeons, items, and battles.  
It's
similar to Final Fantasy in combat: which is carried out in real 
time.  My
vision for this game is grand.  Absolutely huge.  But I'm 
starting small.  I'm
hoping to have a basic playable version that I can build on with 
feedback
from gamers.

I've been posting my progress regularly and I feel I've come a 
long way in a
short time.  I have a few major milestones left to code, but I 
want to have a
small basic shell out soon.  The devil is always in the details 
and I've been
holed up battling annoying audio menu problems the last 2 days.  
I think I've
coded them into oblivion today finally.

Jason
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[Audyssey] Possibility of an RPG

[kelby carlson]

Dear List,

I'd like to know if any of you would be interested in this.  I 
found a free table-top RPG online called Abeo, which looks quite 
amazingly good.  I am thinking of starting a group to play in 
this RP, possibly using Audio Tips or Skype if its convenient.  
This games is quite complex and it will take a lot of commitment.  
Let me give you an excerpt from the introduction.  E-mail me 
onlist or off, doesn't matter, if you're interested.  Hopefully 
we can make something cool out of this.

  Introduction

The World of Fear and Wonder

The lever, the winch and the wheel are not the beginning and the 
end of the mechanisms of creation; they are only the simplest 
solution.

Society, industry and interaction are poorly suited to deal with 
a world where cause and effect are not laws, but suggestions.  In 
Abeo, this stranger, more fluid world is the truer one.  There 
are no rules when the dreams we have with our eyes closed are 
just as real as the ones we share with them open.  We are 
encouraged to forget the fey lands of our most private hopes and 
fears, paying attention instead to the monsters that lurk in 
alleyways, crackhouses, congress and corporate boardrooms.  There 
are rules for dealing with these horrors, and though we groan 
under their weight, we can bear their finite power.

Unfortunately, there are monsters other than the mundane ones, 
and it doesn't take much to see them.  Today, a woman was found 
gruesomely murdered in a room locked from the inside.  Last week 
a man burst into flame in an enclosed office.  There is no 
conspiracy to hide these facts from the average man on the 
street; he does enough of the job himself.

Human torches and phantom murders just don't fit into the 
supremely defined cosmos of his belief.  Belief in the absence of 
proof is faith.  Belief in direct contradiction to proof is 
dangerous.

In Abeo, you play one of those remarkable people who have taken a 
mad step, removing themselves from the danger of ignorance and 
placing themselves squarely in danger of knowing entirely too 
much.  Reason defines the Phenomenal world, but emotion taps into 
the Noumenal world and breaks it.  Love does indeed conquer all, 
but so does hate.  And fear.  Fervor does more than motivate, it 
directly affects the world, removing the veils of apathy and 
illusion; fueling the ghost in the machine of causality .  The 
vehement see that the world operates by the rules of irony, 
poetry, and passion as much, if not more than it does by those of 
gravity, electromagnetism, and the nuclear forces.

It is only through a lateral shift in perception that characters 
are able to do what they had previously thought impossible.  One 
must become insane to become free; to walk on water, you have to 
jump out of your boat.  Characters in Abeo find themselves 
shuttling between a banal but safe world defined by its 
objectivity and predictability, and a beautiful but deadly one 
bound only by Passion.  Faced with both Phenomenal and Noumenal 
challenges continuously, these individuals often find themselves 
sliding into a particular kind of adaptive madness--a madness 
that simultaneously grants the character the power he needs to 
survive and drives him farther away from the relationships and 
identity that he spent his life forming.  These characters are 
called Liminal in Abeo, and an endless number of other names 
within the world the game defines.  Those few who know enough to 
call them anything may understand them to be sorcerers, angels, 
monsters, demons or simply family members slipping away, bit by 
impossible bit.

Kelby



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Re: [Audyssey] back issues of the magazine

[kelby carlson]

Charles, I'd love that file.

Kelby

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It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because 
I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely 
relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to 
think of the universe as basically friendly mainly because of my 
uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is 
quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism 
about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.  
It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes 
without taking in account the psychological and historical 
factors that play upon the individual.
  --Martin Luther King, Jr.
  If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who 
would be foolish enough to fight?

--Rhett Butler



 - Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: audyssey gamers group Gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:08:58 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Audyssey] back issues of the magazine

I have found the first 50 issues in a .zip file if anyone wants 
them.  However, the most recent issue I have found is 50.  I have 
now gotten issue 53 from the USA Games site, thanks to Thomas 
Ward.  (see his previous post to the list).  If someone could 
send me issues 51 and 52, I sure would appreciate it.  Thanks in 
advance.

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Re: [Audyssey] My final message about 3D games and side-scrollers.

[kelby carlson]

tom,

I've been looking at this thread silently.  All I can say is that 
I am totally with you on this as Guys, I think this whole 
community should be collectively ashamed of itself.  To draw an 
analogy: I'm writing a book right now.  That book is something 
I'm going to be invested in for the long term because I WANT TO 
WRITE IT.  But I haven't told very many people about it or set 
myself a deadline yet because I don't want to be burned out by 
stress.  Now, programming a game I would imagine is exponentially 
more difficult.  I just can't believe you guys are so 
relentlessly hounding him on this.  Yes, those opposing his 
original decision made clear, grammatical arguments and there is 
something to be said for that.  But really, I feel pretty bad 
myself not even having said anything or paid for the game.  
Personally Tom, I like side-crollers; 3-D has never been my 
forte.  But hot darn, I was pretty excited about your original 
decision.  But now, it looks like we may never get to see that.

You are perhaps the most open honest game developer I've ever 
seen.  I don't think your original decision marred your integrity 
one bit.  If I had paid for the game, I would've been completely 
over on your side.  I might buy the side-croller when and if it 
comes out, when and if I can scrape up some cash.  I just have to 
tell you my friend, keep doing what you love.  Because you do it 
well.

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because 
I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely 
relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to 
think of the universe as basically friendly mainly because of my 
uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is 
quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism 
about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.  
It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes 
without taking in account the psychological and historical 
factors that play upon the individual.
  --Martin Luther King, Jr.
  If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who 
would be foolish enough to fight?

--Rhett Butler



 - Original Message -
From: Willem [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:43:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] My final message about 3D games and 
side-scrollers.

Good for you Thomas.  And good luck.
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 5:42 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] My final message about 3D games and 
side-scrollers.


 Hello everyone,
 First, I would like to clear up a couple of matters I said under
 emotional distress in some prier emails.  In a previous email to 
the list
 I had mentioned I might leave the list and stop producing games.  
In
 truth I really like making games most of the time, but the 
stress over
 Montezuma's Revenge and Raceway are beginning to get to me 
emotionally,
 physically, and effecting my  family life in a major way.  As a 
result
 until these titles are completed I am likely to withdraw from 
lots of on
 list activities and discussions.  I really do not need people 
challenging
 my credibility, integrity, and respect over something as foolish 
is
 weather to make the game a 3D adventure or a classic 2D 
side-scroller.
 That is just being very one-sided in my opinion.
 Second, as for the 3D Tomb Hunter games it is something I am 
very
 excited about creating, and someday when these two James North 
titles
 are behind us I will be able to take them up again without 
retribution.
 At the moment I can not proceed with USA Games real goals until 
i dig
 myself out of the hole James North and his games barried me in.
 Third, as for the side-scroller promised to you by James North
 unfortunately as per my agreement to the copyright holders I can 
not,
 will not, make a clone of Montezuma's Revenge.  I will however 
create a
 treasure hunting side-scroller with some similar elements for 
you, to
 settle up my accounts with you guys, and you will have 
absolutely no say
 so in its storry, creation, or be able to make comments on it.  
I will do
 it my way or not at all.
 Frankly, I am sick and tired of being pulled in two different 
directions
 about this game.  There is those that think like me that the 
game should
 be updated to be more like games of today.  There is the Atari 
fan croud
 that want the game to be exactly along the Atari 2600 style 
games with
 total authenticity.  Obviously, it is impossible to please both 
so I am
 not even going to try.
 What I will do for you side-scroller fans is create a 
side-scroller, my
 way, with my ideas, and if you don't like it tough luck.  The 
only way I
 will commit to going back and creating that game again from 
scratch is
 if I have total creativity and say so in how it is made and how 
it
 works.  You 

Re: [Audyssey] so after all that

[kelby carlson]

What is wrong with this whole thing is that Thomas poured two 
years of his life into this.  He has completely burned himself 
out and is getting literally no compensation for this.  He has no 
motivation and no desire to continue.  You've been pretty 
reasonable about this, but you haven't addressed that issue, 
which is really the primary concern.  Despite the foul language 
on the other side of the fence, those guys seem to basically 
understand that fact.  If I were Tom, I'd be long gone by now.
Kelby

Doomed Dragon

It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because 
I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely 
relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to 
think of the universe as basically friendly mainly because of my 
uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is 
quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism 
about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.  
It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes 
without taking in account the psychological and historical 
factors that play upon the individual.
  --Martin Luther King, Jr.
  If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who 
would be foolish enough to fight?

--Rhett Butler



 - Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:28:53 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] so after all that

Everybody matters, not just those who want a 3D game instead of a 
side
scroller.  To think that only 1 type of game matters is crazy.  I 
would like
both types.  One has been purchased, the other will be purchased.  
What's
terrible about that?

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From: will lomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 2:34 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] so after all that


 hi,


 So i don't have to keep wasting my time downloading messages 
where we
 all go back and forth about poor thomas, thomas, what's going to
 heppen then please?
 Are you going to do what the majority of us want now you 
outlined it,
 that is to say your 3d fps game,  and just leave the winers too 
it, or
 are you going to go back to the side scroller which is too easy 
and
 won't satisfy  your creativity?
 Why go back to a title you are not happy producing, i mean, in 
the
 side scroller style?
 You obviosuly thought long and hard over this, charles and 
others
 can't do nothing they can jsut sulk but what do they matter, 
when most
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Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

[kelby carlson]

Here's what I'M thinking the book would look like.  (The 
problem I see with having all the Audyssey issues lumped together 
is simply that there's a lot of extraneous stuff in there.  This 
book would be for the public and an introduction for others 
interested in the subject.)

--The book would be divided into sections chronologically 
ordered.  Such as: The first section would be Precursors: 
Accessible Gaming Before 1996.  The second would be Beginnings: 
The Birth of Audyssey and The Genesis of Gaming for the Blind, 
1996-1997.  The third (possibly), Blazing The First Steps of 
the Trail: Accessible Gaming Rises Up, 1998-1999.  The fourth: 
Interactive Sound: Bavisoft and the Growth of the Modern 
Accessible Game, 2000)

--Historical articles would be first.
--NEXT would follow articles of a theoretical or programming 
nature.
--Third would be two noted games that are significant preferably 
still being played today in some sort of way.
--And last in each section would be profiles, background 
information, and interviews with significant people of that year 
of accessible gaming.

Kelby

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--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

For Venus smiles not in a house of tears.

--William Shakespeare

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for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only 
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor.

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in 
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender 
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight, 
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a 
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[Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

[kelby carlson]

Dear List,

This is only an idea, but I'd really like input on this as it 
might end up involving the whole community's efforts.  I am 
thinking how cool it would be if the community began an online 
book that would basically span the history of accessible games.  
It would mostly be a compilation effort (probably from Audyssey), 
and would include history, theory, profiles of significant 
developers, and reviews of big games.  People could obviously 
write stuff for it that would be included.  I even thought of a 
title.  The Sound of the Screen: The Past, Present, and Future 
of Accessible Gaming, penned by the Audyssey Community.  What do 
you guys think of this? Maybe something we could all work on over 
the summer?

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

Tidings of death have many wings.

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

For Venus smiles not in a house of tears.

--William Shakespeare

I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow 
for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only 
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor.

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in 
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender 
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight, 
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a 
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies 
in her hair in springtime.

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes.

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Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

[kelby carlson]

possibly, but I was really thinking more of a book (possibly 
online and maybe available for free.)

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

Tidings of death have many wings.

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For Venus smiles not in a house of tears.

--William Shakespeare

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flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender 
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight, 
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a 
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies 
in her hair in springtime.

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes.

--William Shakespeare



 - Original Message -
From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:20:54 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

Well if we pulled all the history articles from audyssey we would 
have quite a load of things already pluss the inteviews.
Pluss the online sources to other things if just linked to.
I suppose we could have something that would be part of audyssey 
or part of audyssey.org, I mean lets face it all that exists up 
there is just email lists.
No home page I have seen just has email lists.
Maybe some sort of wiki or just the actual book.
Hmm.
At 03:29 a.m.  10/03/2008, you wrote:
Dear List,

This is only an idea, but I'd really like input on this as it
might end up involving the whole community's efforts.  I am
thinking how cool it would be if the community began an online
book that would basically span the history of accessible games.
It would mostly be a compilation effort (probably from Audyssey),
and would include history, theory, profiles of significant
developers, and reviews of big games.  People could obviously
write stuff for it that would be included.  I even thought of a
title.  The Sound of the Screen: The Past, Present, and Future
of Accessible Gaming, penned by the Audyssey Community.  What do
you guys think of this? Maybe something we could all work on over
the summer?

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

Tidings of death have many wings.

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

For Venus smiles not in a house of tears.

--William Shakespeare

I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor.

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
in her hair in springtime.

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes.

--William Shakespeare




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Re: [Audyssey] STFC 2 was LW sound packs?

[kelby carlson]

I'd definitely like to see STFC 2 be along something of those 
lines.  Sounds very enjoyable if you ask me.  I'm bad at 
turn-based strategy, but would probably be able to get the hang 
of this easier.

Kelby

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Tidings of death have many wings.

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For Venus smiles not in a house of tears.

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for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only 
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor.

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in 
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender 
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight, 
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a 
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies 
in her hair in springtime.

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes.

--William Shakespeare



 - Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:39:43 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Audyssey] STFC 2 was LW sound packs?

Hi Dark,
Well, if gamers on this list are interested in a Lonewolf style 
Trek
game instead of a full real time strategy game I would certainly 
do it.
Making a Lonewolf style game isn't too hard to do.  It is 
actually
infinitly easier in the long run.
Instead of programming for 5 or 10 starships all i have to focus 
on is
one ship.  That would of course allow me to add more detail to 
that one
ship adding more advanced features with damage control, weapons,
restocking, autopilot system, etc.  In fact, now that you mention 
it it
is an all around better idea.
I could in theory moddle STFC 2 around a GMA Tank Commander style 
of
play where you are given your mission orders, and then you enter 
some
sector of space to investigate something or stop some enemy 
vessel.
However, as for a Lonewolf style mission parcer I can't really do 
that.
All of my future games are going to be using pre-recorded speech 
like
GTC so like GTC all missions will have to be added by the 
developer and
not externally by end users.  I'm sorry, but I won't pay $499 for 
a
license for the Java Sapi 5 development kit just to have a 
mission
parcer in a free game.
As for modding Lonewolf I would not touch that with a 10 foot 
poll.
Besides the copyright violations of converting Lonewolf in to a 
Trek
game the engine itself would never operate correctly even if you 
did.
There are too many differences between Star Trek starships and 
real
naval vessels.  Wepondry being one of them.
For example, on STNG the enterprise NCC 1701-D comes equipped 
with the
following armourments.  The Enterprise has 13 Type-X phaser 
emitters each
with 5.1 Megawatts of throughput.  In addition to phasers the 
Enterprise
carries a maximum of 250 photon torpedoes that may be fired in 
groups of
5 to 20 per shot, or fired in single bursts.  The Enterprise 
carries the
standard Starfleet shield generators with a maximum output of 
2026
gigawatts of resistance.  Like all vessels the Enterprise caries 
9 deep
space probes which may be used for reconicense operations or can 
be
converted into 9 additional photon torpedoes in emergency 
situations.
As you can see just by reviewing the armourment specs the 
Lonewolf
submarine doesn't even come close to matching up with the 
Enterprise's
true weapons.  The Enterprise 1701-E seen in Startrek 8, 9, 10 is 
even
more powerful since it was designed to fight the Borg.



Dark wrote:
 Indeed yes Tom, I'd love a single starship commanding game, in 
fact I'd
 personally rather go for that than the real time stfc as well 
(especially if
 it was possible to have user created missions as in lw).

 Obviously, even if you replaced all the lw sounds with trek 
ones, the game
 would stil not exactly be a trek game because of the game's 
output to you,
 and the game features specific to submarine combat, such as 
depth charges,
 surfacing, balast etc.  to take a basic example, even if you 
replaced the
 deazel sub engine sound with a warp engine, you'd stil have your 
speed
 reported in nots, and stil get messages about deazel fuel etc.

 i just wondered if it might be possible to both cut down the 
work for you,
 and take advantage of lw's great features,  such as the 
mission parza
 and detailed movement and targiting mechanics to create a trek 
game, but
 somehow also rewrite the bits of gameplay that wouldn't fit on a 
starship,
 as well as obviously modding all the sounds.

 As I said though, I'd expect monkeying about with David 
greenwood's code
 goes against copywrite, even if it would be easier than writing 
the game
 yourself from scratch.

 Beware the Grue!

 Dark.



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Re: [Audyssey] Magazine questions

[kelby carlson]

That would be kind of nice.  Oh, BTW, when are submissions due 
for the next issue? Or the one after that, if I've passed 
deadline?

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

Tidings of death have many wings.

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

For Venus smiles not in a house of tears.

--William Shakespeare

I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow 
for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only 
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor.

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in 
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender 
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight, 
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a 
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies 
in her hair in springtime.

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes.

--William Shakespeare



 - Original Message -
From: James Scholes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:49:05 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Magazine questions

Hi, would anyone like a html copy of the upcoming issue of the 
magazine,
with links to jump to certain sections, headings for the sections 
etc?

--
From: Ron Schamerhorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:10 AM
To: gamers@audyssey.org Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Magazine questions

 Hello everyone

  Okay I'm just writing this to double check on a point or two 
regarding
 the
 upcoming issue of the magazine.  I recall we did some discussion
 previously
 about the formatting.  The decision was to leave out the blank 
lines or
 empty lines between the articles and such material.  It will 
then look
 like
 this

 
   Here's to a good year in the audio gaming scene.
 +++
 Letters
 ++
 A letter from someone...
 

  Hope I've got that part correct.  Also I believe the idea of 
including a
 4th plus sign for new material like Chatting with Creators, or 
extra
 articles is worth giving a try to and see how it goes.  However 
I don't
 think using the above in the reviews and announcement section 
will be
 implemented at this time.
  Another slight change to the News from developers section was 
to include
 the website so it would read

 
 News from L-works
 http://www.l-works.net
 02/17/08
 

 Does that work okay?
  Lastly we had talked about a resource section in Audyssey.  I 
feel the
 place should be at the end of the magazine like you would find 
an index or
 apendix.  Assuming it stays at the back page, then comes to mind 
how to
 present the information.  Should it be just the developer and 
website
 address?  Perhaps mention the games or game offered at such a 
site?  Which
 would be the most useful to you?  I've no problem making such 
changes to
 the
 future issues but do certainly want input as this is as much for 
my
 information and sharing with others.

 Thanks
 Ron
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Re: [Audyssey] Article about Interactive Fiction for Spag magazine

[kelby carlson]

I'd love to write that article.  It would be a great chancee for 
me to get published.  (grin)

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

You're asking if we have a problem? Well, let's see here--we 
have a fully armed regiment of soldiers on our tail who have a 
strong desire to kill or mame us horribly.  Does this look like a 
problem to you?

--Rad Zane, the Elementalists

Things are about to get very ugly, very fast.  You guys 
leave--I'll clean up the mess.

--Tiana Rose, the Elementalists

Oh, there's only a hundred of them.  Let's rock!

--Mark Barrington, the Elementalists

Hey, bumblehead! Did a fire hydrant unload on you or was that 
just me blasting through your defenses?

--Adrian Fleck, the Elementalists



 - Original Message -
From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:59:55 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Audyssey] Article about Interactive Fiction for Spag 
magazine

Hi all,
I have emailed the editor of Spag magazine for players of 
Interactive
Fiction.  I got a reply, but, because of some attachments, which 
I don't know
how exactly to remove because it would go over the size of 
messages for the
list, I have forwarded the message to Thomas.  Anyway, the point 
of this
message is that Spag magazine would like an article about us as 
blind
players playing interactive fiction, the next issue is coming out 
in a
month's time.  I am quite an amateur in IF, and still haven't 
tried out many
interpreters and so on, so could someone who has more experience 
then I do
with IF write the article about playing IF from a blind person's
perspective, maybe saying what interpreters don't work well, how 
it's done,
I don't know, just a general thing to make people more aware of 
us.  There
are some things I'd like whoever writes the article to highlight, 
though,
like the, if we put in that we're still having problems getting 
these Pocket
Interpreters to work on the Pac Mate, maybe someone would in the 
IF
community would be prepared to modify them a bit, as the Source 
Code is
freely available, and maybe other issues if there are still 
accessibility
problems or just anything.
Ari


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Re: [Audyssey] Tarzan junior.

[kelby carlson]

I tried that.  It keeps giving me an error message saying that it 
isn't installed.  It's on the C drive, so their shouldn't be any 
problems.

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

You're asking if we have a problem? Well, let's see here--we 
have a fully armed regiment of soldiers on our tail who have a 
strong desire to kill or mame us horribly.  Does this look like a 
problem to you?

--Rad Zane, the Elementalists

Things are about to get very ugly, very fast.  You guys 
leave--I'll clean up the mess.

--Tiana Rose, the Elementalists

Oh, there's only a hundred of them.  Let's rock!

--Mark Barrington, the Elementalists

Hey, bumblehead! Did a fire hydrant unload on you or was that 
just me blasting through your defenses?

--Adrian Fleck, the Elementalists



 - Original Message -
From: Ryan Conroy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:17:52 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Tarzan junior.

Hi,

There's a patch you can download from Tom's site..  
www.usagames.us.  It unlocks the game.
Enjoy
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[Audyssey] Tarzan Junior

[kelby carlson]

Dear List,

I have just downloaded Tarzan Junior.  My question is, is there a 
way to register it? Or am I simply stuck with the demo?

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

You're asking if we have a problem? Well, let's see here--we 
have a fully armed regiment of soldiers on our tail who have a 
strong desire to kill or mame us horribly.  Does this look like a 
problem to you?

--Rad Zane, the Elementalists

Things are about to get very ugly, very fast.  You guys 
leave--I'll clean up the mess.

--Tiana Rose, the Elementalists

Oh, there's only a hundred of them.  Let's rock!

--Mark Barrington, the Elementalists

Hey, bumblehead! Did a fire hydrant unload on you or was that 
just me blasting through your defenses?

--Adrian Fleck, the Elementalists



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[Audyssey] Announcement of a List--Blind Teen Talk

[kelby carlson]

Dear List,

A new mailing list has been created which I think may be of 
interest to some of you.  It is called Blind Teen Talk.  It's 
just a place where blind and visually impaired teens from all 
around the world can come and chat about anything they like.  To 
access the group, just go to 
http://groups.google.com/group/blind-teen-talk.  Subscribe, and 
talk about anything that strikes your fancy.  (No cursing, 
harassment, or sexual content allowed--this will get you banned 
without warning.)

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

The Earth has warmed about 1 degree fahrenheit in the last 
century.  So just imagine on a summer day, it's 63 degrees, and 
then it's ...  64 degrees.  Ahhh! Run for your lives!



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Re: [Audyssey] Announcement of a List--Blind Teen Talk

[kelby carlson]

Raul,

I have to apologize.  You're absolutely right.  I sent this just 
after I woke up because I wanted to get some publicity about the 
list.  I addressed it to a few different places--I definitely 
shd've put an OT in front of it at the very least.  Rest assured, 
it won't happen again.

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?

A: It is the universe exploding.

It is not what we see that determines who we are.  It is how we 
choose to see it.

Let them praise the name of the LORD, for his name alone is 
exalted; his splendor is above the earth and the heavens.

Psalm 148:13

Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your 
presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my 
bed in the depths, you are there.  If I rise on the wings of the 
dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your 
hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast.

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[Audyssey] A Game Idea

[kelby carlson]

Dear List,

A game idea just hit on me.  This, in concept, doesn't sound like 
it would be that hard to program.  The idea is a Yu-Gi-Oh card 
duelling game.  I've never been a fan of the show, but I like the 
card game.  You wouldn't even need voice-actors--SAPI or JAWS 
could do all the work.  (Incidentally, this project sounds 
something like perhaps Lighttech could be interested in.) Let me 
know what you think.

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

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Re: [Audyssey] A Game Idea

[kelby carlson]

Hmm.  You do have a point there.  The other idea I had was a game 
based on the Pokemon games.  (Again--hate the show, love the 
concept.) Maybe something along the lines of NetBattle for the 
sighted.  See, here's what you would do.  You pick a six Pokemon 
team, and battle the computer or others.  (The exploration part 
of Pokemon always annoyed me--it's the battles I find fun.) If 
you wanted to make it easier on yourselves, you could restrict it 
to the original 151/251 if you wanted, since there are now 
something like 500.

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?

A: It is the universe exploding.

It is not what we see that determines who we are.  It is how we 
choose to see it.

Let them praise the name of the LORD, for his name alone is 
exalted; his splendor is above the earth and the heavens.

Psalm 148:13

Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your 
presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my 
bed in the depths, you are there.  If I rise on the wings of the 
dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your 
hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Game Idea

[kelby carlson]

I tend not to enjoy games like Elder Ages.  You get the same 
thing, over and over and over and over and over.  The thing about 
Pokemon is the strategy of pitting monster against monster.  
Elder Ages has none of that.  Heck, I'd be happy with a Pokemon 
text game if it emulated the strategy well enough.

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?

A: It is the universe exploding.

It is not what we see that determines who we are.  It is how we 
choose to see it.

Let them praise the name of the LORD, for his name alone is 
exalted; his splendor is above the earth and the heavens.

Psalm 148:13

Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your 
presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my 
bed in the depths, you are there.  If I rise on the wings of the 
dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your 
hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast.

Psalm 139:7-10



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Re: [Audyssey] USA Raceway trailer released.

[kelby carlson]

The trailer, on a whole, sounds pretty cool.  But my gosh, the 
music was just ...' just ...  just so inane.  It sounded like I 
was driving down a country lane, not racing on a track.  Other 
than that, though, it sounds fantastic.

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?

A: It is the universe exploding.

It is not what we see that determines who we are.  It is how we 
choose to see it.

Let them praise the name of the LORD, for his name alone is 
exalted; his splendor is above the earth and the heavens.

Psalm 148:13

Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your 
presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my 
bed in the depths, you are there.  If I rise on the wings of the 
dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your 
hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast.

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Re: [Audyssey] Attention Moderators and entire list!!!

[kelby carlson]

Sorry? You know, I'm sorry too. I don't think a simple three-word 
sentence is going to cover it. This past summer, we've had 
something like four of these instances. I am tired of it. Maybe 
you guys can understand why I don't post to this list. I am 
seriously considering leaving; I get enough e-mail as it is 
already. If you're really sorry, then you're going to at least 
have to earn my trust back. I can't say anything for the rest of 
you, bI think people who cause such riotous disputes need to be 
reprimanded.

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

It is not what we see that determines who we are. It is how we 
choose to see it.



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Re: [Audyssey] Fw: piracy of games?

[kelby carlson]

Not to mention the fact that he can't even write an e-mail 
coherently.  I mean, come on, this is supposed to be a 
respectable mailing list, and this kid doesn't even use 
punctuation marks.

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

It is not what we see that determines who we are.  It is how we 
choose to see it.



 - Original Message -
From: david [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 07:03:05 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fw: piracy of games?

That stupid kid! I guess he needs to understand a little more
about pirating.  He's only 11 I think.  But I might have to agree
with him on one point.  Many of the games out there aren't really
worth playing.  Rail Racer, Judgment Day, Super Liam, Lone Wolf,
Gma Tank Commander, and some others are really worth my time, and
eventually, even most of those lose their replay value at some
point.  But I don't agree with Andy that pirating games is fun.

David

 - Original Message -
From: Davy Kager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Mailinglist gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:15:17 +0200
Subject: [Audyssey] Fw: piracy of games?

Just read the following from Andy Smith, it's quite fun...
(Sarcasm!)
- Original Message -
From: Andy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Davy Kager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:10 AM
Subject: piracy of games?


Hey,
I just thought I would tell anyone who is reading this, that
pirating
games is fun.  Though bad for the stupid game devs, who I frankly
do
not and will not care about.  Besides.  $33 for racing? $25.00
for a
side scroller with 7 levels? Now jd is a goodd price; I will
agree on
that with some people, but frankly not many games deserve being
payed
for.  Besides; there is (no) replay value in anything! What do u
guys
thing? Should we continue pirating?


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Re: [Audyssey] World of Darkness

[kelby carlson]

Hmm, sounds interesting.  I'd like a copy of it as well.

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

It is not what we see that determines who we are.  It is how we 
choose to see it.



 - Original Message -
From: Ka Yat Li [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:25:53 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] World of Darkness

Hi:

World of Darkness is an interactive fiction game that use to be 
sold by Ken.
Now he is releasing it as free ware.  Basically what World of 
Darkness is, is
a game where are blind and have to learn how to travel, use the 
cane, and do
other things.
- Original Message -
From: Dark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion 
list
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] World of Darkness


 Hi Ken.

 If you don't mind me asking, what is world of darkness? an audio 
game? an
 interactive fiction? an early doss textual game? The only world 
of
 darkness
 I know is the tabletop Roleplay system produced by white wolf 
publishing,
 where you can play as Vampires, ware wolves,mages and things at 
different
 periods of history, from the roman empire to modern day.  If 
there's a game
 somewhere based on this it'd be cool!

 Beware the Grue!

 Dark.
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 From: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gamers Discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:37 AM
 Subject: [Audyssey] World of Darkness


 Hey yall, I'm looking for world of Darkness--as many of you 
know, I lost
 my old computer and everything on it, but I've got some people 
interested
 and was wondering if any of you have it.  If so please e-mail me 
at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 thanks in advance.

 Ken Downey
 President
 DreamTechInteractive!

 And,
 Coming soon,
 Blind Comfort!
 The pleasant way to get a massage--no staring, just caring.
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Re: [Audyssey] The Rail Racer demo is ready to race

[kelby carlson]

Che,

I would like to download the demo of the game, but can't, as when 
I opened your site with Firefox and JAWS, it froze my computer! 
What should I do?

Kelby

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[Audyssey] Treasure Mania 1: Error

[kelby carlson]

I get the following error message when try to play (not install) 
Treasure Mania:
Runtime error 429: Active EXE Component cannot create object.
I have all the system requirements.  What should I do?

Kelby

Don't let it get you--oh, what is it? It's ...  NOTHING!!!


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