Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hello, Well, imho, I love the fact that you automaticly run with the arrow keys. I mean who doesn't run in the game? In side-scrollers, I must say, I always prefer to run than just normally walk, especially if there is something like time bonus's or something. I really liked the fact. But of course I am not everybody... Kevin - Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 22:06:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Thomas, Too bad that you're reassigning those keys. They were nice before...ah well. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:40 AM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Lori, Well, the reason the health stats are the way thay are is to be more like mainstream games. You know how in a mainstream game they usually have a little health bar that shows red if your health is critical, yellow if it is fair, green if it is good, and blue if it is at full, etc? I decided to emulate that by saying critical, poor, fair, good, etc rather than just giving you something like 85%. No mainstream game does that and I don't believe that accessible games need to be that specific either. For one thing it is down right unrealistic. For example, let's say you get hurt. Does a doctor walk up to you and say well, Lori, your health is 85%. No, of course not. He'll tell you your health is good, fair, poor, whatever in general terms. So that's my logic for doing it that way. As for the shift+arrow key combo for run I honestly don't like it, but I have gotten so many complaints about that I have decided to asign run to shift+arrow in the next beta. It would appear since company x does it that way I'm naturally expected to do it that way too. Even though I'm personally of the opinion it is easier to use run on the left and right arrow keys. Thanks. On 10/5/10, Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, this is just a small suggestion, but I personally feel the health stats should be change, by that I mean set them back to numbers like 100% rather than good, poor etc. Also I think running should be set to the shift key. I feel it makes controling Angela easier. Many thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Thomas, Too bad that you're reassigning those keys. They were nice before...ah well. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:40 AM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Lori, Well, the reason the health stats are the way thay are is to be more like mainstream games. You know how in a mainstream game they usually have a little health bar that shows red if your health is critical, yellow if it is fair, green if it is good, and blue if it is at full, etc? I decided to emulate that by saying critical, poor, fair, good, etc rather than just giving you something like 85%. No mainstream game does that and I don't believe that accessible games need to be that specific either. For one thing it is down right unrealistic. For example, let's say you get hurt. Does a doctor walk up to you and say well, Lori, your health is 85%. No, of course not. He'll tell you your health is good, fair, poor, whatever in general terms. So that's my logic for doing it that way. As for the shift+arrow key combo for run I honestly don't like it, but I have gotten so many complaints about that I have decided to asign run to shift+arrow in the next beta. It would appear since company x does it that way I'm naturally expected to do it that way too. Even though I'm personally of the opinion it is easier to use run on the left and right arrow keys. Thanks. On 10/5/10, Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, this is just a small suggestion, but I personally feel the health stats should be change, by that I mean set them back to numbers like 100% rather than good, poor etc. Also I think running should be set to the shift key. I feel it makes controling Angela easier. Many thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Shaun, Lol! No, there is no such thing as a 3d side-scroller. You can include 3d graphics and animation, render sounds in 3d, but that in itself doesn't make it 3d. Side-scrollers are by definition a 2d game where you start from the leftside of the screen and work your way right to the rightside of the screen. Ocationally you might have to climb up or down the y axis, but there is only an x and y axis to the game. If we added a third axis, z, suddenly you are probably talking about a third-person game with an x, y, and z axis of movement. Cheers! On 10/7/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well its good you have fixed the imput issue. on that note is there such a thing as a 3d side scroler? It looks like the only way to fix the panning issue is to quit the 2d system entirely. A side scroler really needs some panning, or something to sound 2d. I am not sure how a 3d side scroler would sound but. on that note I still get a shock when I am between the pits and or spikes the 3d feel makes me feel like they are all coming at me so this part is quite cool --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Thomas, How much skill does it take to program a game? My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just send a blank email to. audiogamesfortheblind+subscr...@googlegroups.com With the subject subscribe in the subject line. Contact infermation. email: muhamme...@googlemail.com msn: muhammed123...@hotmail.co.uk Skype: muhammed.deniz Klango username. muhammed - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Shaun, Lol! No, there is no such thing as a 3d side-scroller. You can include 3d graphics and animation, render sounds in 3d, but that in itself doesn't make it 3d. Side-scrollers are by definition a 2d game where you start from the leftside of the screen and work your way right to the rightside of the screen. Ocationally you might have to climb up or down the y axis, but there is only an x and y axis to the game. If we added a third axis, z, suddenly you are probably talking about a third-person game with an x, y, and z axis of movement. Cheers! On 10/7/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well its good you have fixed the imput issue. on that note is there such a thing as a 3d side scroler? It looks like the only way to fix the panning issue is to quit the 2d system entirely. A side scroler really needs some panning, or something to sound 2d. I am not sure how a 3d side scroler would sound but. on that note I still get a shock when I am between the pits and or spikes the 3d feel makes me feel like they are all coming at me so this part is quite cool --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Lori, Hmmm...we seem to be thinking exactly opposite here. As I recall Thomas once saying, it really is not realistic to say that your health is at, say, 95%. Also, could you please explain what you mean by the shift key making it easier to control Angela? jJust curious Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 5:23 PM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions I like the current system I am used to it. At 02:53 a.m. 6/10/2010, you wrote: Hi Tom, this is just a small suggestion, but I personally feel the health stats should be change, by that I mean set them back to numbers like 100% rather than good, poor etc. Also I think running should be set to the shift key. I feel it makes controling Angela easier. Many thanks from Lori. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, that error message isn't very helpful. Although, I am suspecting some threads aren't getting terminated properly. I'll take another look at the exit code and see if I can perhaps find out what is causing the crash. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I managed to get someone to read me the message I got when the game crashed. there is supposed to be a dump, and there is supposed to be some error log but nothing as yet. The error is a critical stop error. here is the info I got from the error message stop: 0x008e (0xc005,0xbf008459,0x9d63197c,0x) dxg.sys /address bf008459 base at bf00, date stamp 48025323 this happens when I try to exit the game. right now I can't play it properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi, INw I've tried it I feel it has come time for my opinions. I like the volume increase of the sounds, and something definitely sounds better with the wav sounds. Although, the echo is...a bit strange. Also I noticed the panning issue, it is very disorienting to have something stay at the right, then jump to the center. Also I did notice the enter key problem, and how sometimes the arrow won't take. Not bad, Thomas, but for those little bugs. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 5:23 PM To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions I like the current system I am used to it. At 02:53 a.m. 6/10/2010, you wrote: Hi Tom, this is just a small suggestion, but I personally feel the health stats should be change, by that I mean set them back to numbers like 100% rather than good, poor etc. Also I think running should be set to the shift key. I feel it makes controling Angela easier. Many thanks from Lori. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, that error message isn't very helpful. Although, I am suspecting some threads aren't getting terminated properly. I'll take another look at the exit code and see if I can perhaps find out what is causing the crash. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I managed to get someone to read me the message I got when the game crashed. there is supposed to be a dump, and there is supposed to be some error log but nothing as yet. The error is a critical stop error. here is the info I got from the error message stop: 0x008e (0xc005,0xbf008459,0x9d63197c,0x) dxg.sys /address bf008459 base at bf00, date stamp 48025323 this happens when I try to exit the game. right now I can't play it properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Thomas, Which crash are you talking about? I recently had a problem where my computer was shut down and restarted upon exit, though I don't know if this is simply a computer issue or something relatedto MOTA itself. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 10:00 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi, Umm...No offense but aren't we getting a bit petty now? The menu system has been that way, well, since the very beginning and no one really has any serious complaints about it. Believe me there are far more pressing bugs like the crash on exit that concern me more than if the main menu lands on the new game option as soon as you open that menu. Besides that would require a huge amount of work rewriting the menu system for a feature that isn't all that necessary in the grand scheme of things. Same goes for adding an option to select alternative keyboard asignments.I don't mind having options to enable/disable joysticks, turn ambience on/off, and other settings that configure the engine itself, but I have no plans, nor ever will, adds custom settings on a per game basis. That would require me to upgrade the engine just to add a setting that I may or may not ever use again in another game. That's why the settings I do have apply to every game built with the engine rather than any specific game. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: so do I. I did notice when the game starts that the menu is not on anything till I push a key it probably should be on new or whatever is at the top. also you could always put in prefs to have shift right run or not and have the switch if you can do it that way and then those that want can select an option, etc. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Hayden, Well, as for the keyboard input issue you are talking about I got an answer back from the developer on that. Appparently rather than using sf::Window::Event class for handling keyboard input using sf::Window::Input instead will give me a more DirectInput style keyboard input system for Mac, Linux, and Windows games. So I'm in the process of upgrading that now. As for the extra echo when Angela speaks I've already attended to that issue. I edited those files and now the echo isn't quite as bad. Now the echo sounds more normal. Normal as being in an empty tomb or something with a little echo, but not as much as beta 14. As for the panning issue see my post on the subject. I don't see any real solution to the problem, and to fix the problem that would mean going back to DirectX and basing my engine on old deprecated Windows libraries which only serves us in the short term. Long term, though, DirectSound is a thing of the past and we are going to have to accept that. Cheers! On 10/6/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, INw I've tried it I feel it has come time for my opinions. I like the volume increase of the sounds, and something definitely sounds better with the wav sounds. Although, the echo is...a bit strange. Also I noticed the panning issue, it is very disorienting to have something stay at the right, then jump to the center. Also I did notice the enter key problem, and how sometimes the arrow won't take. Not bad, Thomas, but for those little bugs. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Hayden, The crash I'm talking about is exactly that. Some people are experiencing a problem when MOTA exits it crashes the entire system or forces it to shutdown. I'm currently investigating the issue and hope to fix it asap. On 10/6/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Which crash are you talking about? I recently had a problem where my computer was shut down and restarted upon exit, though I don't know if this is simply a computer issue or something relatedto MOTA itself. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
well its good you have fixed the imput issue. on that note is there such a thing as a 3d side scroler? It looks like the only way to fix the panning issue is to quit the 2d system entirely. A side scroler really needs some panning, or something to sound 2d. I am not sure how a 3d side scroler would sound but. on that note I still get a shock when I am between the pits and or spikes the 3d feel makes me feel like they are all coming at me so this part is quite cool At 04:43 p.m. 7/10/2010, you wrote: Hi Hayden, Well, as for the keyboard input issue you are talking about I got an answer back from the developer on that. Appparently rather than using sf::Window::Event class for handling keyboard input using sf::Window::Input instead will give me a more DirectInput style keyboard input system for Mac, Linux, and Windows games. So I'm in the process of upgrading that now. As for the extra echo when Angela speaks I've already attended to that issue. I edited those files and now the echo isn't quite as bad. Now the echo sounds more normal. Normal as being in an empty tomb or something with a little echo, but not as much as beta 14. As for the panning issue see my post on the subject. I don't see any real solution to the problem, and to fix the problem that would mean going back to DirectX and basing my engine on old deprecated Windows libraries which only serves us in the short term. Long term, though, DirectSound is a thing of the past and we are going to have to accept that. Cheers! On 10/6/10, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, INw I've tried it I feel it has come time for my opinions. I like the volume increase of the sounds, and something definitely sounds better with the wav sounds. Although, the echo is...a bit strange. Also I noticed the panning issue, it is very disorienting to have something stay at the right, then jump to the center. Also I did notice the enter key problem, and how sometimes the arrow won't take. Not bad, Thomas, but for those little bugs. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
I managed to get someone to read me the message I got when the game crashed. there is supposed to be a dump, and there is supposed to be some error log but nothing as yet. The error is a critical stop error. here is the info I got from the error message stop: 0x008e (0xc005,0xbf008459,0x9d63197c,0x) dxg.sys /address bf008459 base at bf00, date stamp 48025323 this happens when I try to exit the game. right now I can't play it properly. At 06:56 p.m. 5/10/2010, you wrote: Hi Thomas, I managed to get my hands on 32-bit SFML libraries and so far have been enjoying the MOTA experience under Linux. There are a few hiccups though. The sound description menu doesn't seem to fully work. Some sounds, consistently, are not playing. Specifically, the ledge sound isn't playing, at least not in the menu. Nor does potion. Similar problems impact the game itself. I notice errors in the terminal from which I ran the game complaining about being unable to load sound buffers. Note that I confirmed the sounds exist, they're just not playing for some reason. Other than this annoyance, the game itself works great. Best and thanks for such a wonderful beta! Yours, Zack. -- If I love you, what business is it of yours? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, that error message isn't very helpful. Although, I am suspecting some threads aren't getting terminated properly. I'll take another look at the exit code and see if I can perhaps find out what is causing the crash. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I managed to get someone to read me the message I got when the game crashed. there is supposed to be a dump, and there is supposed to be some error log but nothing as yet. The error is a critical stop error. here is the info I got from the error message stop: 0x008e (0xc005,0xbf008459,0x9d63197c,0x) dxg.sys /address bf008459 base at bf00, date stamp 48025323 this happens when I try to exit the game. right now I can't play it properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Zack, Thanks for the bug reports. I'll certainly look into them. I have no idea why those sounds aren't opening and playing correctly, but Linux is a lot fussier than Windows when it comes to loading and playing files do to the fact it is case specific etc. If a developer types one character with a capital when it is suppose to be lower case etc and the ntire thing blows up in your face. So I'll look at the problem more this week. Btw, I noticed last night while playing that Kerberos doesn't play either, and that hadn't happened before either. It worked fine in my release test folder,but after I unpacked and installed the game certain sounds stopped playing. To say I'm royally confused about what happened is an under statement. Smile. On 10/5/10, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Thomas, I managed to get my hands on 32-bit SFML libraries and so far have been enjoying the MOTA experience under Linux. There are a few hiccups though. The sound description menu doesn't seem to fully work. Some sounds, consistently, are not playing. Specifically, the ledge sound isn't playing, at least not in the menu. Nor does potion. Similar problems impact the game itself. I notice errors in the terminal from which I ran the game complaining about being unable to load sound buffers. Note that I confirmed the sounds exist, they're just not playing for some reason. Other than this annoyance, the game itself works great. Best and thanks for such a wonderful beta! Yours, Zack. -- If I love you, what business is it of yours? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Tom, this is just a small suggestion, but I personally feel the health stats should be change, by that I mean set them back to numbers like 100% rather than good, poor etc. Also I think running should be set to the shift key. I feel it makes controling Angela easier. Many thanks from Lori. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, that error message isn't very helpful. Although, I am suspecting some threads aren't getting terminated properly. I'll take another look at the exit code and see if I can perhaps find out what is causing the crash. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I managed to get someone to read me the message I got when the game crashed. there is supposed to be a dump, and there is supposed to be some error log but nothing as yet. The error is a critical stop error. here is the info I got from the error message stop: 0x008e (0xc005,0xbf008459,0x9d63197c,0x) dxg.sys /address bf008459 base at bf00, date stamp 48025323 this happens when I try to exit the game. right now I can't play it properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
That's odd, because I don't believe it did that for me. I'll take a look next time I run it. I did noticed that it did seem to create two game windows when the program was loaded though. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, that error message isn't very helpful. Although, I am suspecting some threads aren't getting terminated properly. I'll take another look at the exit code and see if I can perhaps find out what is causing the crash. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I managed to get someone to read me the message I got when the game crashed. there is supposed to be a dump, and there is supposed to be some error log but nothing as yet. The error is a critical stop error. here is the info I got from the error message stop: 0x008e (0xc005,0xbf008459,0x9d63197c,0x) dxg.sys /address bf008459 base at bf00, date stamp 48025323 this happens when I try to exit the game. right now I can't play it properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
I don't necessarily agree with the stats thing but I do agree about running. That's probably why I got killed the first time I played it LOL. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Tom, this is just a small suggestion, but I personally feel the health stats should be change, by that I mean set them back to numbers like 100% rather than good, poor etc. Also I think running should be set to the shift key. I feel it makes controling Angela easier. Many thanks from Lori. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, that error message isn't very helpful. Although, I am suspecting some threads aren't getting terminated properly. I'll take another look at the exit code and see if I can perhaps find out what is causing the crash. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I managed to get someone to read me the message I got when the game crashed. there is supposed to be a dump, and there is supposed to be some error log but nothing as yet. The error is a critical stop error. here is the info I got from the error message stop: 0x008e (0xc005,0xbf008459,0x9d63197c,0x) dxg.sys /address bf008459 base at bf00, date stamp 48025323 this happens when I try to exit the game. right now I can't play it properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Lori, Well, the reason the health stats are the way thay are is to be more like mainstream games. You know how in a mainstream game they usually have a little health bar that shows red if your health is critical, yellow if it is fair, green if it is good, and blue if it is at full, etc? I decided to emulate that by saying critical, poor, fair, good, etc rather than just giving you something like 85%. No mainstream game does that and I don't believe that accessible games need to be that specific either. For one thing it is down right unrealistic. For example, let's say you get hurt. Does a doctor walk up to you and say well, Lori, your health is 85%. No, of course not. He'll tell you your health is good, fair, poor, whatever in general terms. So that's my logic for doing it that way. As for the shift+arrow key combo for run I honestly don't like it, but I have gotten so many complaints about that I have decided to asign run to shift+arrow in the next beta. It would appear since company x does it that way I'm naturally expected to do it that way too. Even though I'm personally of the opinion it is easier to use run on the left and right arrow keys. Thanks. On 10/5/10, Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, this is just a small suggestion, but I personally feel the health stats should be change, by that I mean set them back to numbers like 100% rather than good, poor etc. Also I think running should be set to the shift key. I feel it makes controling Angela easier. Many thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Bryan, That's another odd bug I can't reproduce. A few people have told me when they start the game they get multiple windows. It hasn't happened to me once, and obviously if I can't experience it I can't fix what I can't reproduce. I'm not even sure there is a logical way to keep the operating system from llaunching multiple copies of the same program which appears to be happening on some computers. On 10/5/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: That's odd, because I don't believe it did that for me. I'll take a look next time I run it. I did noticed that it did seem to create two game windows when the program was loaded though. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Left and right arrows are the way forward (or should that be running)? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 05 October 2010 15:40 To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Lori, Well, the reason the health stats are the way thay are is to be more like mainstream games. You know how in a mainstream game they usually have a little health bar that shows red if your health is critical, yellow if it is fair, green if it is good, and blue if it is at full, etc? I decided to emulate that by saying critical, poor, fair, good, etc rather than just giving you something like 85%. No mainstream game does that and I don't believe that accessible games need to be that specific either. For one thing it is down right unrealistic. For example, let's say you get hurt. Does a doctor walk up to you and say well, Lori, your health is 85%. No, of course not. He'll tell you your health is good, fair, poor, whatever in general terms. So that's my logic for doing it that way. As for the shift+arrow key combo for run I honestly don't like it, but I have gotten so many complaints about that I have decided to asign run to shift+arrow in the next beta. It would appear since company x does it that way I'm naturally expected to do it that way too. Even though I'm personally of the opinion it is easier to use run on the left and right arrow keys. Thanks. On 10/5/10, Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, this is just a small suggestion, but I personally feel the health stats should be change, by that I mean set them back to numbers like 100% rather than good, poor etc. Also I think running should be set to the shift key. I feel it makes controling Angela easier. Many thanks from Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
unfortunately there is no event and so many dump files. The program tries to exit, but doesn't. when it crashes the program just hangs everything. it has not even killed the music. if I end the task manually try an alt f4, etc the same thing happens. At 02:24 a.m. 6/10/2010, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, that error message isn't very helpful. Although, I am suspecting some threads aren't getting terminated properly. I'll take another look at the exit code and see if I can perhaps find out what is causing the crash. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I managed to get someone to read me the message I got when the game crashed. there is supposed to be a dump, and there is supposed to be some error log but nothing as yet. The error is a critical stop error. here is the info I got from the error message stop: 0x008e (0xc005,0xbf008459,0x9d63197c,0x) dxg.sys /address bf008459 base at bf00, date stamp 48025323 this happens when I try to exit the game. right now I can't play it properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
I wander if the sound file issues not loading effect the exit system. At 02:31 a.m. 6/10/2010, you wrote: Hi Zack, Thanks for the bug reports. I'll certainly look into them. I have no idea why those sounds aren't opening and playing correctly, but Linux is a lot fussier than Windows when it comes to loading and playing files do to the fact it is case specific etc. If a developer types one character with a capital when it is suppose to be lower case etc and the ntire thing blows up in your face. So I'll look at the problem more this week. Btw, I noticed last night while playing that Kerberos doesn't play either, and that hadn't happened before either. It worked fine in my release test folder,but after I unpacked and installed the game certain sounds stopped playing. To say I'm royally confused about what happened is an under statement. Smile. On 10/5/10, Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net wrote: Hi Thomas, I managed to get my hands on 32-bit SFML libraries and so far have been enjoying the MOTA experience under Linux. There are a few hiccups though. The sound description menu doesn't seem to fully work. Some sounds, consistently, are not playing. Specifically, the ledge sound isn't playing, at least not in the menu. Nor does potion. Similar problems impact the game itself. I notice errors in the terminal from which I ran the game complaining about being unable to load sound buffers. Note that I confirmed the sounds exist, they're just not playing for some reason. Other than this annoyance, the game itself works great. Best and thanks for such a wonderful beta! Yours, Zack. -- If I love you, what business is it of yours? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
well just in case my os was corrupt I tried it on my dad's system. both of ours are core 2 duo 2ghz cpus though his is 100mhz faster both of us have simular memmory being 2gb. both systems have realtech soundcards and intel displays. I have my grandpa's which is a del with almost the same hardware. I do have my brother's which is an amd 64 bit but its video card is on the way out and it ocationally has issues. When the error happened on my dads, the game stuttered for a bit, or rather just hung, the hard drive shut down which is unusual, then the system reset the drive restarted and windows came back. Interestingly I made some changes to the system, before I played the game to see if I had to catch something I could. On restart those changes were reversed. I don't have any of that sort of software that would do that so I must assume that that session of the os was corrupted and the system restarts using its last known good config. I am gona set my error reports and stuff and then reboot and then see if I can get anything. I wander if the linux load sounds issue and the startup issues in vista are related somehow. if this does happen again and I can get something then I will try to get it to you. At 02:24 a.m. 6/10/2010, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, that error message isn't very helpful. Although, I am suspecting some threads aren't getting terminated properly. I'll take another look at the exit code and see if I can perhaps find out what is causing the crash. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I managed to get someone to read me the message I got when the game crashed. there is supposed to be a dump, and there is supposed to be some error log but nothing as yet. The error is a critical stop error. here is the info I got from the error message stop: 0x008e (0xc005,0xbf008459,0x9d63197c,0x) dxg.sys /address bf008459 base at bf00, date stamp 48025323 this happens when I try to exit the game. right now I can't play it properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
I like the current system I am used to it. At 02:53 a.m. 6/10/2010, you wrote: Hi Tom, this is just a small suggestion, but I personally feel the health stats should be change, by that I mean set them back to numbers like 100% rather than good, poor etc. Also I think running should be set to the shift key. I feel it makes controling Angela easier. Many thanks from Lori. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, that error message isn't very helpful. Although, I am suspecting some threads aren't getting terminated properly. I'll take another look at the exit code and see if I can perhaps find out what is causing the crash. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I managed to get someone to read me the message I got when the game crashed. there is supposed to be a dump, and there is supposed to be some error log but nothing as yet. The error is a critical stop error. here is the info I got from the error message stop: 0x008e (0xc005,0xbf008459,0x9d63197c,0x) dxg.sys /address bf008459 base at bf00, date stamp 48025323 this happens when I try to exit the game. right now I can't play it properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
so do I. I did notice when the game starts that the menu is not on anything till I push a key it probably should be on new or whatever is at the top. also you could always put in prefs to have shift right run or not and have the switch if you can do it that way and then those that want can select an option, etc. At 03:17 a.m. 6/10/2010, you wrote: I don't necessarily agree with the stats thing but I do agree about running. That's probably why I got killed the first time I played it LOL. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Tom, this is just a small suggestion, but I personally feel the health stats should be change, by that I mean set them back to numbers like 100% rather than good, poor etc. Also I think running should be set to the shift key. I feel it makes controling Angela easier. Many thanks from Lori. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, that error message isn't very helpful. Although, I am suspecting some threads aren't getting terminated properly. I'll take another look at the exit code and see if I can perhaps find out what is causing the crash. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I managed to get someone to read me the message I got when the game crashed. there is supposed to be a dump, and there is supposed to be some error log but nothing as yet. The error is a critical stop error. here is the info I got from the error message stop: 0x008e (0xc005,0xbf008459,0x9d63197c,0x) dxg.sys /address bf008459 base at bf00, date stamp 48025323 this happens when I try to exit the game. right now I can't play it properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
well I only get one window and the game starts fine. by now you should have got my report for the issue I am having, and this time you should get error report data for the blue screen crash which it says it is. At 03:45 a.m. 6/10/2010, you wrote: Hi Bryan, That's another odd bug I can't reproduce. A few people have told me when they start the game they get multiple windows. It hasn't happened to me once, and obviously if I can't experience it I can't fix what I can't reproduce. I'm not even sure there is a logical way to keep the operating system from llaunching multiple copies of the same program which appears to be happening on some computers. On 10/5/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: That's odd, because I don't believe it did that for me. I'll take a look next time I run it. I did noticed that it did seem to create two game windows when the program was loaded though. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Shaun, What you are suggesting seems to me, although I am not by any means Thomas, a tad...unnecessary? It's really, not in my opinion anyway, a big deal about the menus. Also, if you want to walk, just tap the arrow keys individually. I'd bet many of us find the way it is now invaluable, not to mention the fact that I, at least, only walk in terms of tapping the arrows if I am near a trap. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 5:27 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions so do I. I did notice when the game starts that the menu is not on anything till I push a key it probably should be on new or whatever is at the top. also you could always put in prefs to have shift right run or not and have the switch if you can do it that way and then those that want can select an option, etc. At 03:17 a.m. 6/10/2010, you wrote: I don't necessarily agree with the stats thing but I do agree about running. That's probably why I got killed the first time I played it LOL. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Tom, this is just a small suggestion, but I personally feel the health stats should be change, by that I mean set them back to numbers like 100% rather than good, poor etc. Also I think running should be set to the shift key. I feel it makes controling Angela easier. Many thanks from Lori. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions Hi Shaun, Unfortunately, that error message isn't very helpful. Although, I am suspecting some threads aren't getting terminated properly. I'll take another look at the exit code and see if I can perhaps find out what is causing the crash. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I managed to get someone to read me the message I got when the game crashed. there is supposed to be a dump, and there is supposed to be some error log but nothing as yet. The error is a critical stop error. here is the info I got from the error message stop: 0x008e (0xc005,0xbf008459,0x9d63197c,0x) dxg.sys /address bf008459 base at bf00, date stamp 48025323 this happens when I try to exit the game. right now I can't play it properly. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Shaun, Ummm...I haven't gotten anything from you. At least not to my personal e-mail. Where did you send it too? On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well I only get one window and the game starts fine. by now you should have got my report for the issue I am having, and this time you should get error report data for the blue screen crash which it says it is. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi, Umm...No offense but aren't we getting a bit petty now? The menu system has been that way, well, since the very beginning and no one really has any serious complaints about it. Believe me there are far more pressing bugs like the crash on exit that concern me more than if the main menu lands on the new game option as soon as you open that menu. Besides that would require a huge amount of work rewriting the menu system for a feature that isn't all that necessary in the grand scheme of things. Same goes for adding an option to select alternative keyboard asignments.I don't mind having options to enable/disable joysticks, turn ambience on/off, and other settings that configure the engine itself, but I have no plans, nor ever will, adds custom settings on a per game basis. That would require me to upgrade the engine just to add a setting that I may or may not ever use again in another game. That's why the settings I do have apply to every game built with the engine rather than any specific game. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: so do I. I did notice when the game starts that the menu is not on anything till I push a key it probably should be on new or whatever is at the top. also you could always put in prefs to have shift right run or not and have the switch if you can do it that way and then those that want can select an option, etc. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
Hi Shaun, No, I don't think Vista's problem and Linux's problem are in anyway related. For one thing I started the game from the Windows command prompt and none of the error messages were present when starting from the command line. When I start the game from a Linux terminal I get a number of load errors which are more than likely do to the fact Linux is extremely case specific. A file called Loop_Statue.wav and loop_statue.wav are treated differently by the operating system. They might be spelled the same but the capital l and s makes a huge difference when programming for Linux. Theremay be some other issue involved here, but according to the Windows test run all the files loaded correctly. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
No. The exit problem is totally unrelated. I'm guessing one or more threads isn't exiting properly. I'm working on that and am checking to see why where that could be happening. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I wander if the sound file issues not loading effect the exit system. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
the support email I don't have your personal email address in my database. At 03:51 p.m. 6/10/2010, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Ummm...I haven't gotten anything from you. At least not to my personal e-mail. Where did you send it too? On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well I only get one window and the game starts fine. by now you should have got my report for the issue I am having, and this time you should get error report data for the blue screen crash which it says it is. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions
hmmm what about writing something that loads the game and then asks you to close each thread then we can see. on the other hand I wander if the game can make its own error logs or something. I know this may be a little off but is there a posibility that you could just have a key to just can the program, not go through trying to exit, but just to can everything at once or something? it may disrupt any end sequence but if the thing doesn't close then hmmm. At 04:09 p.m. 6/10/2010, you wrote: No. The exit problem is totally unrelated. I'm guessing one or more threads isn't exiting properly. I'm working on that and am checking to see why where that could be happening. On 10/5/10, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I wander if the sound file issues not loading effect the exit system. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
