Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2011-07-24 Thread dark

Hi Damien.

i'll be interested to see what you come up with. I rather liked river raders 
for the sounds and the interesting idea of going up and down in the river as 
well as left to right, so a side scrolling adventure would be good to see 
indeed.


please let us know when you have clips etc, sinse then it'll also be 
possible to create some audigoaesm.ent news.


Beware the grue!

dark.
- Original Message - 
From: Damien C. Pendleton dam...@x-sight-interactive.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:36 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News



Hey guys,
After ever such a long time of silence, we are back with a chunk of 
information for the taking.
We are still in the process of working on our audiogames. Some small, and 
one rather large which I hope everyone will enjoy. I won't divulge too 
much information here, except that it is a sidescrolling adventure. Also, 
I won't be promising any release dates, since we all know what can 
sometimes get in the way while developing games.
Never fear though...We plan to release audio snippets to wet your appetite 
as the game comes closer to completion. Which brings me very nicely to my 
next point.
Often, a single news item at the bottom of a webpage doesn't warrant a 
small entry such as an immediate idea, thought or event. Twitter, on the 
other hand, seems great for it and, my personal experiences with Twitter 
have convinced me to set one up for X-Sight related stuff as well.
All news entries, behind-the-scenes information, audio clips etc will be 
posted there as they happen. It will be the first place to receive news 
items, and the only place to receive our regular mini progress report 
posts and short audio material.
Therefore now, those who are interest are free to log into Twitter (or 
sign up for an account if you don't have one), and follow us at XSINews. 
This will be replacing our previous blog, since it is easier to maintain 
and, in my opinion, a lot more secure.

Hope to see you there!
Regards,
Damien Pendleton
Head of X-Sight Interactive
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-09 Thread Damien Sadler

Hi Hayden,
I'm not sure exactly what happened. Could've been the discs or the motor, 
I'm not a hardware technician. I'm just letting Simon (the data recovery 
specialist) do what he needs to. If he needs to retrieve the data physically 
off of the disks that's what he'll do. He better have a result though for 
£365, that'll completely empty my savings! *Smile*

Regards,
Damien.



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Hi Damion,
Something I thought of just now-did the hard disk in the drive 
malfunction?
If not, you might-I say might because I have no clue how to do it myself 
if
it could be done-might be able to load the data off of the discs 
themselves.

Correct me if I'm wrong though.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM
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It has nothing to do with a backup of a Hard Drive. I guess what he's 
saying
is get a Mac for Time Machine.  While that's good backup built into the 
Mac,

windows has alternatives for backing up, and the average price for a Mac I
wouldn't pay just to get good backup software like Superduper or Time
Machine. I'm done here. To end, I'll say that getting a Mac won't stop an
external Hard Drive from failing or having other problems for that matter.


On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Darren Harris wrote:


More to the point what does it have to do with a mechanical fault with an
external or internal hard drive? Because the below comment suggests that
macs will never go wrong. Which is of course untrue everything goes 
wrong.

The mac os may be more stable but a physical thing no matter who makes it

is

just as liable to break.

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Behalf Of Yohandy
Sent: 08 January 2010 16:22
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I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not
everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would

get

one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.




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Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News



get a mac they just work

On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:


actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use
something
like get data back.
if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much

off



it as you can.
just don't turn it off.
At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:

Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves
breaking
the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  once
and
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  you
can
find a place that will do it cheaper.
Munawar A. Bijani
blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
http://www.bpcprograms.com
Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/ 
munawar0009


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Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems
to be nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that
drastic happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun. Best
Regards, Hayden


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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Yohandy,
Yeah, I've encountered my share of people with the exact same attitude
and opinions. I use to be subscribed to several Linux related mailing
lists and there were always a few Linux users on their that copped a
superiority attitude. To hear them talk Linux never crashes, Linux is
invulnerable to hacking/cracking,  Linux is totally invulnerable to
viruses, and so on.  That's a completely unrealistic attitude to have,
because it isn't true. It's true Linux is over all more secure than
Windows and viruses are virtually unheard of on Linux, but there have
been exceptions such as the so-called Red Hat Worm that took down
several Red Hat Linux based servers before the Linux community developed
a security patch to prevent future infections of the worm.  A couple of
years ago the Gnome 2.6 or 2.8 desktop had a very nasty bug where the
Gnome panel would crash on startup crashing the entire  graphical user
interface. The bug was fixed of course, but the point is Linux, like
everything else, can crash from time to time.It may not be very common,
but it does happen.
Like you I've seen my share of new Mac OS users taking the same
attitude/opinion.They just got a MacBook last  year and suddenly they
know everything.  They believe as some linux users do that they are now
invulnerable to every problem that Windows users face. It isn't true, is
unrealistic, but that's what they think or have been told by the
uneducated.  Mac OS frequently has security patches, bug fixes,etc just
like Windows or Linux. Nothing you buy is 100% completely secure or bug
free. The best thing you can say is Mac OS is more secure and is
generally more stable, runs faster, etc but isn't absolutely invincible
compared to operating system x.
So I understand where you are coming from completely.  I'm a very
dedicated Linux user myself, but it drives me slightly crazy when I'm on
list x and someone starts in with the my operating system is so big and
mighty there isn't anything it can't do for you song and dance because
generally the information is incorrect.  Every operating system has its
pros and cons, and there is no single one-size fits all solution.

Cheers!
 
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 13:32 -0500, Yohandy wrote:
 Thomas,
 I have no problem with people promoting their favorite OS, software etc. 
 it's just the way in which it was promoted I didn't agree with. people tend 
 to assume that just because they have a mac they're invulnerable to hardware 
 issues, viruses, and pretty much every computer problem that plagues windows 
 machines and that just isn't true. one day a mac user is going to get a 
 virus and they're not going to like it. Most mac users I've spoken to think 
 they're mac is superior to windows and they don't even bother with antivirus 
 programs. viruses for mac do exist, and so do all other problems. what's 
 even more annoying is that most of these users just got a mac like a year 
 ago, and before that used windows exclusively, yet upon reading their 
 comments you'd think they've been using macs forever and know what they're 
 talking about. folks please stop spreading misinformation.



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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Peter,
Ummm...That's a bit extreme. Things aren't that dificult as you would
make them seam. Remember Damien is learning C++ which is the traditional
programming language used by Mac OS developers. Plus Mac OS uses a very
commonC/C++ compiler gcc and g++ for development which runs on Mac,
Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, Windows, you name it. If you can use the
compiler on one OS you can use it on all. You make it sound like Mac OS
is a totally alien operating system which isn't true. Mac and Windows
have similar applications, tools, some the same and some a bit
different. However, the learning curve isn't as bad as you make it
sound.
Cheers!


On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 23:40 +0100, peter Mahach wrote:
 also he's a windows programmer. a mac wouldn't do much. o god how do I 
 compile this thing! yada yada this can go on for ages.



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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-09 Thread Damien Sadler

Hi Thomas,
To be honest I did find mac computers hard to operate, simply because I had 
never seen the system before. I didn't get chance to familiarise myself with 
it before I left college, because they were only being used in the music 
tech department.
As for the learning C, I'm using Dev C++ with the mingw compiler. Not sure 
how that is for cross platform work, or even how to write programs for other 
systems, but, again, if there is enough interest I could always add that to 
my list of things to learn. Although I'm wondering does Simbian use C++? It 
would be nice to make some accessible simbian based games.

Regards,
Damien.


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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News



Hi Peter,
Ummm...That's a bit extreme. Things aren't that dificult as you would
make them seam. Remember Damien is learning C++ which is the traditional
programming language used by Mac OS developers. Plus Mac OS uses a very
commonC/C++ compiler gcc and g++ for development which runs on Mac,
Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, Windows, you name it. If you can use the
compiler on one OS you can use it on all. You make it sound like Mac OS
is a totally alien operating system which isn't true. Mac and Windows
have similar applications, tools, some the same and some a bit
different. However, the learning curve isn't as bad as you make it
sound.
Cheers!


On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 23:40 +0100, peter Mahach wrote:

also he's a windows programmer. a mac wouldn't do much. o god how do I
compile this thing! yada yada this can go on for ages.




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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-09 Thread shaun everiss
I must say that I could have lost about 95% of my stuff.
booy I would have had less stuff.
just did another disk sinc today.
so its all good.
At 09:55 p.m. 9/01/2010, you wrote:
Hi Hayden,
I'm not sure exactly what happened. Could've been the discs or the motor, I'm 
not a hardware technician. I'm just letting Simon (the data recovery 
specialist) do what he needs to. If he needs to retrieve the data physically 
off of the disks that's what he'll do. He better have a result though for 
£365, that'll completely empty my savings! *Smile*
Regards,
Damien.



- Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


Hi Damion,
Something I thought of just now-did the hard disk in the drive malfunction?
If not, you might-I say might because I have no clue how to do it myself if
it could be done-might be able to load the data off of the discs themselves.
Correct me if I'm wrong though.
Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Orin
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

It has nothing to do with a backup of a Hard Drive. I guess what he's saying
is get a Mac for Time Machine.  While that's good backup built into the Mac,
windows has alternatives for backing up, and the average price for a Mac I
wouldn't pay just to get good backup software like Superduper or Time
Machine. I'm done here. To end, I'll say that getting a Mac won't stop an
external Hard Drive from failing or having other problems for that matter.


On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Darren Harris wrote:

More to the point what does it have to do with a mechanical fault with an
external or internal hard drive? Because the below comment suggests that
macs will never go wrong. Which is of course untrue everything goes wrong.
The mac os may be more stable but a physical thing no matter who makes it
is
just as liable to break.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Yohandy
Sent: 08 January 2010 16:22
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not
everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would
get
one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.




- Original Message - From: william lomas 
lomaswill...@googlemail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


get a mac they just work

On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:

actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use
something
like get data back.
if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much
off

it as you can.
just don't turn it off.
At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:
Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves
breaking
the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  once
and
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  you
can
find a place that will do it cheaper.
Munawar A. Bijani
blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
http://www.bpcprograms.com
Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/ munawar0009

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Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems
to be nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that
drastic happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun. Best
Regards, Hayden


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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-09 Thread shaun everiss
well
I used the devpascal from bloodshed and its a good accessible interface.
as long as you link it to an engine that is you can use it with anything in 
existance.
At 03:25 a.m. 10/01/2010, you wrote:
Hi Thomas,
To be honest I did find mac computers hard to operate, simply because I had 
never seen the system before. I didn't get chance to familiarise myself with 
it before I left college, because they were only being used in the music tech 
department.
As for the learning C, I'm using Dev C++ with the mingw compiler. Not sure how 
that is for cross platform work, or even how to write programs for other 
systems, but, again, if there is enough interest I could always add that to my 
list of things to learn. Although I'm wondering does Simbian use C++? It would 
be nice to make some accessible simbian based games.
Regards,
Damien.


- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


Hi Peter,
Ummm...That's a bit extreme. Things aren't that dificult as you would
make them seam. Remember Damien is learning C++ which is the traditional
programming language used by Mac OS developers. Plus Mac OS uses a very
commonC/C++ compiler gcc and g++ for development which runs on Mac,
Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, Windows, you name it. If you can use the
compiler on one OS you can use it on all. You make it sound like Mac OS
is a totally alien operating system which isn't true. Mac and Windows
have similar applications, tools, some the same and some a bit
different. However, the learning curve isn't as bad as you make it
sound.
Cheers!


On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 23:40 +0100, peter Mahach wrote:
also he's a windows programmer. a mac wouldn't do much. o god how do I
compile this thing! yada yada this can go on for ages.



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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-09 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Damien,
In that case, all I can say is...hope and prey! Grin
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Behalf Of shaun everiss
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 12:17 PM
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I must say that I could have lost about 95% of my stuff.
booy I would have had less stuff.
just did another disk sinc today.
so its all good.
At 09:55 p.m. 9/01/2010, you wrote:
Hi Hayden,
I'm not sure exactly what happened. Could've been the discs or the motor,
I'm not a hardware technician. I'm just letting Simon (the data recovery
specialist) do what he needs to. If he needs to retrieve the data physically
off of the disks that's what he'll do. He better have a result though for
£365, that'll completely empty my savings! *Smile*
Regards,
Damien.



- Original Message - From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


Hi Damion,
Something I thought of just now-did the hard disk in the drive
malfunction?
If not, you might-I say might because I have no clue how to do it myself
if
it could be done-might be able to load the data off of the discs
themselves.
Correct me if I'm wrong though.
Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Orin
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

It has nothing to do with a backup of a Hard Drive. I guess what he's
saying
is get a Mac for Time Machine.  While that's good backup built into the
Mac,
windows has alternatives for backing up, and the average price for a Mac I
wouldn't pay just to get good backup software like Superduper or Time
Machine. I'm done here. To end, I'll say that getting a Mac won't stop an
external Hard Drive from failing or having other problems for that matter.


On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Darren Harris wrote:

More to the point what does it have to do with a mechanical fault with an
external or internal hard drive? Because the below comment suggests that
macs will never go wrong. Which is of course untrue everything goes
wrong.
The mac os may be more stable but a physical thing no matter who makes it
is
just as liable to break.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Yohandy
Sent: 08 January 2010 16:22
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not
everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would
get
one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.




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get a mac they just work

On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:

actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use
something
like get data back.
if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much
off

it as you can.
just don't turn it off.
At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:
Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves
breaking
the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  once
and
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  you
can
find a place that will do it cheaper.
Munawar A. Bijani
blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
http://www.bpcprograms.com
Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/
munawar0009

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Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems
to be nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that
drastic happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun. Best
Regards, Hayden


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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread shaun everiss
actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use something like 
get data back.
if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much off it as 
you can.
just don't turn it off.
At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:
Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves breaking 
the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me once and 
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope you can 
find a place that will do it cheaper.
Munawar A. Bijani
blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
http://www.bpcprograms.com
Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009

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Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems to be
nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that drastic
happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun.
Best Regards,
Hayden 


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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread william lomas

get a mac they just work

On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:

actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use  
something like get data back.
if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much  
off it as you can.

just don't turn it off.
At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:

Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves  
breaking
the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  
once and
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  
you can

find a place that will do it cheaper.
Munawar A. Bijani
blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
http://www.bpcprograms.com
Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/ 
munawar0009


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Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems  
to be

nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that drastic
happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun.
Best Regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread Damien Sadler

Hi Munawar,
Well, in this case I was quite lucky, though I must admit once converted to 
dollars you're probably talking about the same amount. I found a freelance 
guy who is charging me £365.

Regards,
Damien.




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Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:32 AM
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Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves 
breaking

the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me once and
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope you can
find a place that will do it cheaper.
Munawar A. Bijani
blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
http://www.bpcprograms.com
Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009

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Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems to be
nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that drastic
happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun.
Best Regards,
Hayden


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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread Damien Sadler

Hi Shaun,
Running Get Data Back did nothing for me except make the drive worse, since 
it was a mechanical fault rather than a software or file system issue. It 
got to a point where it started grinding very loudly and finally stopped 
spinning altogether.

Regards,
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To: Munawar Bijani munaw...@gmail.com; Gamers Discussion list 
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Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use something 
like get data back.
if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much off 
it as you can.

just don't turn it off.
At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:

Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves 
breaking

the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me once and
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope you can
find a place that will do it cheaper.
Munawar A. Bijani
blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
http://www.bpcprograms.com
Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/munawar0009

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Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:47 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems to be
nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that drastic
happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun.
Best Regards,
Hayden


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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread Yohandy
I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not 
everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get 
one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.





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get a mac they just work

On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:

actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use  something 
like get data back.
if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much  off 
it as you can.

just don't turn it off.
At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:

Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves 
breaking
the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  once 
and
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  you 
can

find a place that will do it cheaper.
Munawar A. Bijani
blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
http://www.bpcprograms.com
Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/ munawar0009

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Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems  to be
nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that drastic
happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun.
Best Regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread Darren Harris
More to the point what does it have to do with a mechanical fault with an
external or internal hard drive? Because the below comment suggests that
macs will never go wrong. Which is of course untrue everything goes wrong.
The mac os may be more stable but a physical thing no matter who makes it is
just as liable to break.

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Behalf Of Yohandy
Sent: 08 January 2010 16:22
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I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not 
everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get 
one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.




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Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:05 AM
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 get a mac they just work

 On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:

 actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use  
 something
 like get data back.
 if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much  off

 it as you can.
 just don't turn it off.
 At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:
 Hi,
 Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves
 breaking
 the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  once 
 and
 thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  you 
 can
 find a place that will do it cheaper.
 Munawar A. Bijani
 blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
 http://www.bpcprograms.com
 Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/ munawar0009

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 From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:47 PM
 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

 Hi Damion,
 Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems  
 to be nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that 
 drastic happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun. Best 
 Regards, Hayden


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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Yohandy,
Smile I think we all try to promote the software we like best.
Unfortunately, this is not the proper forum in which to do it.
In any case buying a Mac has no bearing on the fact Damien's problem is
a hardware failure, and not a software issue. Mac computers have
hardware failures too. So buying one isn't exactly a solution here.

Cheers!
 
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 everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get 
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread Damien Sadler

Hi Yohandy,
Yeah, I am too, though I get it with Linux more than Mac. I have tried both 
systems and my computer skills are brought right back to beginner on them. I 
prefer Windows, that's what I am brought up withsince Windows 95.

Regards,
Damien.




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I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not 
everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get 
one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.





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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News



get a mac they just work

On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:

actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use 
something like get data back.
if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much 
off it as you can.

just don't turn it off.
At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:

Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves 
breaking
the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  once 
and
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  you 
can

find a place that will do it cheaper.
Munawar A. Bijani
blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
http://www.bpcprograms.com
Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/ munawar0009

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From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:47 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems  to 
be

nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that drastic
happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun.
Best Regards,
Hayden


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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread Yohandy

Thomas,
I have no problem with people promoting their favorite OS, software etc. 
it's just the way in which it was promoted I didn't agree with. people tend 
to assume that just because they have a mac they're invulnerable to hardware 
issues, viruses, and pretty much every computer problem that plagues windows 
machines and that just isn't true. one day a mac user is going to get a 
virus and they're not going to like it. Most mac users I've spoken to think 
they're mac is superior to windows and they don't even bother with antivirus 
programs. viruses for mac do exist, and so do all other problems. what's 
even more annoying is that most of these users just got a mac like a year 
ago, and before that used windows exclusively, yet upon reading their 
comments you'd think they've been using macs forever and know what they're 
talking about. folks please stop spreading misinformation.


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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:03 PM
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Hi Yohandy,
Smile I think we all try to promote the software we like best.
Unfortunately, this is not the proper forum in which to do it.
In any case buying a Mac has no bearing on the fact Damien's problem is
a hardware failure, and not a software issue. Mac computers have
hardware failures too. So buying one isn't exactly a solution here.

Cheers!

On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 11:22 -0500, Yohandy wrote:

I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not
everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would 
get

one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.




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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread Orin
I agree here.  Use what works for you.


On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Yohandy wrote:

 I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not 
 everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get 
 one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: william lomas 
 lomaswill...@googlemail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News
 
 
 get a mac they just work
 
 On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:
 
 actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use  something 
 like get data back.
 if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much  off 
 it as you can.
 just don't turn it off.
 At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:
 Hi,
 Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves 
 breaking
 the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  once and
 thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  you can
 find a place that will do it cheaper.
 Munawar A. Bijani
 blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
 http://www.bpcprograms.com
 Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/ munawar0009
 
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 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News
 
 Hi Damion,
 Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems  to be
 nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that drastic
 happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun.
 Best Regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread Orin
It has nothing to do with a backup of a Hard Drive. I guess what he's saying is 
get a Mac for Time Machine.  While that's good backup built into the Mac, 
windows has alternatives for backing up, and the average price for a Mac I 
wouldn't pay just to get good backup software like Superduper or Time Machine. 
I'm done here. To end, I'll say that getting a Mac won't stop an external Hard 
Drive from failing or having other problems for that matter.


On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Darren Harris wrote:

 More to the point what does it have to do with a mechanical fault with an
 external or internal hard drive? Because the below comment suggests that
 macs will never go wrong. Which is of course untrue everything goes wrong.
 The mac os may be more stable but a physical thing no matter who makes it is
 just as liable to break.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Yohandy
 Sent: 08 January 2010 16:22
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News
 
 
 I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not 
 everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get 
 one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.
 
 
 
 
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 From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News
 
 
 get a mac they just work
 
 On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:
 
 actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use  
 something
 like get data back.
 if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much  off
 
 it as you can.
 just don't turn it off.
 At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:
 Hi,
 Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves
 breaking
 the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  once 
 and
 thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  you 
 can
 find a place that will do it cheaper.
 Munawar A. Bijani
 blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
 http://www.bpcprograms.com
 Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/ munawar0009
 
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 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News
 
 Hi Damion,
 Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems  
 to be nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that 
 drastic happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun. Best 
 Regards, Hayden
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread shaun everiss
I'd like a mac.
ok they cost more than windows systems.
anyway everything is windows these days though I know I could emulate.
Don't think I'd justify the extra use of the mac I barely use  a quarter of the 
pc resource as is.
At 05:22 a.m. 9/01/2010, you wrote:
I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not 
everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get 
one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.




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Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:05 AM
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get a mac they just work

On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:

actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use  something 
like get data back.
if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much  off it 
as you can.
just don't turn it off.
At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:
Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves breaking
the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  once and
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  you can
find a place that will do it cheaper.
Munawar A. Bijani
blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
http://www.bpcprograms.com
Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/ munawar0009

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Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:47 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems  to be
nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that drastic
happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun.
Best Regards,
Hayden


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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread shaun everiss
well to tell you the truth my system or systems are dos and windows.
I have some basic certification on linux so I can get arround the os.
mac?
its close to windows so I think I could master it.
pity symbian was not for pcs that has to be one of the easiest systems to 
navigate and stable.
At 06:37 a.m. 9/01/2010, you wrote:
Hi Yohandy,
Yeah, I am too, though I get it with Linux more than Mac. I have tried both 
systems and my computer skills are brought right back to beginner on them. I 
prefer Windows, that's what I am brought up withsince Windows 95.
Regards,
Damien.




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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not 
everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get 
one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.




- Original Message - From: william lomas 
lomaswill...@googlemail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


get a mac they just work

On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:

actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use something 
like get data back.
if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much off it 
as you can.
just don't turn it off.
At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:
Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves 
breaking
the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  once and
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  you can
find a place that will do it cheaper.
Munawar A. Bijani
blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
http://www.bpcprograms.com
Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/ munawar0009

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Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:47 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems  to be
nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that drastic
happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun.
Best Regards,
Hayden


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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread peter Mahach
also he's a windows programmer. a mac wouldn't do much. o god how do I 
compile this thing! yada yada this can go on for ages.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not 
everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would get 
one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.





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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News



get a mac they just work

On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:

actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use 
something like get data back.
if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much 
off it as you can.

just don't turn it off.
At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:

Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves 
breaking
the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  once 
and
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  you 
can

find a place that will do it cheaper.
Munawar A. Bijani
blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
http://www.bpcprograms.com
Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/ munawar0009

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From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:47 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems  to 
be

nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that drastic
happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun.
Best Regards,
Hayden


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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread Tristan B

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also he's a windows programmer. a mac wouldn't do much. o god how do I 
compile this thing! yada yada this can go on for ages.
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I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not 
everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would 
get one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.





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get a mac they just work

On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:

actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use 
something like get data back.
if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much 
off it as you can.

just don't turn it off.
At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:

Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves 
breaking
the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  once 
and
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  you 
can

find a place that will do it cheaper.
Munawar A. Bijani
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http://www.bpcprograms.com
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Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems  to 
be

nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that drastic
happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun.
Best Regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-08 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Damion,
Something I thought of just now-did the hard disk in the drive malfunction?
If not, you might-I say might because I have no clue how to do it myself if
it could be done-might be able to load the data off of the discs themselves.
Correct me if I'm wrong though.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Orin
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 2:10 PM
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It has nothing to do with a backup of a Hard Drive. I guess what he's saying
is get a Mac for Time Machine.  While that's good backup built into the Mac,
windows has alternatives for backing up, and the average price for a Mac I
wouldn't pay just to get good backup software like Superduper or Time
Machine. I'm done here. To end, I'll say that getting a Mac won't stop an
external Hard Drive from failing or having other problems for that matter.


On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Darren Harris wrote:

 More to the point what does it have to do with a mechanical fault with an
 external or internal hard drive? Because the below comment suggests that
 macs will never go wrong. Which is of course untrue everything goes wrong.
 The mac os may be more stable but a physical thing no matter who makes it
is
 just as liable to break.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Yohandy
 Sent: 08 January 2010 16:22
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News
 
 
 I really hate the get a mac comments. seriously growing sick of them. not 
 everyone want a mac. deal with it people. if we wanted one we would
get 
 one. doubt I'm the only one who feels this way.
 
 
 
 
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 From: william lomas lomaswill...@googlemail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News
 
 
 get a mac they just work
 
 On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:02, shaun everiss wrote:
 
 actually if you can get the drive working you probably can use  
 something
 like get data back.
 if you must then freeze the drive overnight, and try to pull as much
off
 
 it as you can.
 just don't turn it off.
 At 06:32 p.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:
 Hi,
 Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves
 breaking
 the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me  once 
 and
 thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope  you 
 can
 find a place that will do it cheaper.
 Munawar A. Bijani
 blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
 http://www.bpcprograms.com
 Follow on Twitter for blog updates: http://www.twitter.com/ munawar0009
 
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 Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:47 PM
 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News
 
 Hi Damion,
 Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems  
 to be nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that 
 drastic happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun. Best 
 Regards, Hayden
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-07 Thread Matt
Might want to consider on getting a WHS, Windows Home Server.  I did a 
pod cast on Blind Cool Tech a few years back on it.  I still got mine 
and got over 6 TB of backup info on it.  If a drive dies I don't lose a thing.


Currently It's been running for 3 years non-stop.  You can also host a 
web site on it, but that getting to the niddy griddy of the thing.


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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-07 Thread Karl Belanger
One suggestion is to use an online backup service like carbonite:
www.carbonite.com
or Mozy:
www.mozy.com
Both backup services are very accessible and both offer unlimited secure backup 
for around $55 per year.
Karl

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Behalf Of Damien Sadler
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:52 AM
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Subject: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

Hi folks,
After a hectic Christmas holiday, we have cleaned up the website a little, and 
we are now hopefully on the run again. However, there is a slight hitch.
On December 26, 2009, at approximately lunchtime, our main machine became 
unusable due to a motherboard failure. According to the manufacturer it has 
also affected the hard drive. Not being insured for any data, the manufacturer 
have replaced the drive and disposed of the original.
Luckily for us, all our data was backed up on an external drive, so at first, 
this was not a big issue. However, it would be our luck that yesterday, January 
7, 2010, again at approximately lunchtime, our 16 month old 500GB Western 
Digital hard drive in USB caddy became mechanically faulty as well. To add 
insult to injury, the spare machine we are using had to be reformatted, because 
Windows kindly decided to save the broken drive's MFT to the internal.
In short, plain English, we have lost all our data, which includes over 50GB of 
sound effects costing over £2500, approximately 5GB of incomplete and released 
materials, and an absolute handful of software in all categories of 
distribution and function.
I am currently in contact with a data recovery specialist to see what he can 
do, however I am thinking that chances are slim in retrieving the data, either 
because of physical damage to the disks, or because of our financial situation.
I have kept the website up for convenience purposes, but support for available 
software will be extremely limited until I can get it rewritten.
As a side note, if anybody can give me any tips on backing up data securely and 
reliably short of buying two dozen hard drives I would be most thankful. *Smile*
Regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-07 Thread dark

Ouch damien, - nasty!

Myself, for backup purposes i use a full external self-powered harddrive 
which even has a separate power supply, and spends most of it's time in my 
bottom draw when not actually used to back things up.


I do admit though, if this and my main desktop failed simultaniously,   
as seemed to happen to you, I'd also be up the creak without a paddle,   
especially sinse my laptop only has a 32 gb drive so cannot store much at 
all.


I just hope you can yank stuff back from this.

all the best,

Dark.
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From: Damien Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net

To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:51 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


Hi folks,
After a hectic Christmas holiday, we have cleaned up the website a little, 
and we are now hopefully on the run again. However, there is a slight hitch.
On December 26, 2009, at approximately lunchtime, our main machine became 
unusable due to a motherboard failure. According to the manufacturer it has 
also affected the hard drive. Not being insured for any data, the 
manufacturer have replaced the drive and disposed of the original.
Luckily for us, all our data was backed up on an external drive, so at 
first, this was not a big issue. However, it would be our luck that 
yesterday, January 7, 2010, again at approximately lunchtime, our 16 month 
old 500GB Western Digital hard drive in USB caddy became mechanically faulty 
as well. To add insult to injury, the spare machine we are using had to be 
reformatted, because Windows kindly decided to save the broken drive's MFT 
to the internal.
In short, plain English, we have lost all our data, which includes over 50GB 
of sound effects costing over £2500, approximately 5GB of incomplete and 
released materials, and an absolute handful of software in all categories of 
distribution and function.
I am currently in contact with a data recovery specialist to see what he can 
do, however I am thinking that chances are slim in retrieving the data, 
either because of physical damage to the disks, or because of our financial 
situation.
I have kept the website up for convenience purposes, but support for 
available software will be extremely limited until I can get it rewritten.
As a side note, if anybody can give me any tips on backing up data securely 
and reliably short of buying two dozen hard drives I would be most thankful. 
*Smile*

Regards,
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Annoyed X-Sight Interactive manager.
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-07 Thread peter Mahach
an external hd is on my to get list, right before a surround sspeaker 
system and an IPhone.
- Original Message - 
From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


Ouch damien, - nasty!

Myself, for backup purposes i use a full external self-powered harddrive
which even has a separate power supply, and spends most of it's time in my
bottom draw when not actually used to back things up.

I do admit though, if this and my main desktop failed simultaniously, 
as seemed to happen to you, I'd also be up the creak without a paddle, 
especially sinse my laptop only has a 32 gb drive so cannot store much at
all.

I just hope you can yank stuff back from this.

all the best,

Dark.
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From: Damien Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net

To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:51 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


Hi folks,
After a hectic Christmas holiday, we have cleaned up the website a little,
and we are now hopefully on the run again. However, there is a slight hitch.
On December 26, 2009, at approximately lunchtime, our main machine became
unusable due to a motherboard failure. According to the manufacturer it has
also affected the hard drive. Not being insured for any data, the
manufacturer have replaced the drive and disposed of the original.
Luckily for us, all our data was backed up on an external drive, so at
first, this was not a big issue. However, it would be our luck that
yesterday, January 7, 2010, again at approximately lunchtime, our 16 month
old 500GB Western Digital hard drive in USB caddy became mechanically faulty
as well. To add insult to injury, the spare machine we are using had to be
reformatted, because Windows kindly decided to save the broken drive's MFT
to the internal.
In short, plain English, we have lost all our data, which includes over 50GB
of sound effects costing over £2500, approximately 5GB of incomplete and
released materials, and an absolute handful of software in all categories of
distribution and function.
I am currently in contact with a data recovery specialist to see what he can
do, however I am thinking that chances are slim in retrieving the data,
either because of physical damage to the disks, or because of our financial
situation.
I have kept the website up for convenience purposes, but support for
available software will be extremely limited until I can get it rewritten.
As a side note, if anybody can give me any tips on backing up data securely
and reliably short of buying two dozen hard drives I would be most thankful.
*Smile*
Regards,
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Annoyed X-Sight Interactive manager.
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-07 Thread shaun everiss
hmm I feel for you.
I had a drive do this a bit ago.
I mannaged to recover most of my stuff.
however yeah I know the pain.
I have 2 drives both by western digital an elements drive for data and a mybook 
drive for other backups, I sink these every so often and mostly things are up 
to date.
On the subject of things I have 100mb of stuff you gave me though if software I 
have is still on the site then you probably can get it again.
I have 200mb of audio you got me from your site and if you have lost that I can 
give it to you.
I have a large lib which although I did buy a little most I got of friends or 
downloaded from now dead sites.
On that note I think you probably could redownload your purchaced sounds and 
such unless you can't that is.
At 03:51 a.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:
Hi folks,
After a hectic Christmas holiday, we have cleaned up the website a little, and 
we are now hopefully on the run again. However, there is a slight hitch.
On December 26, 2009, at approximately lunchtime, our main machine became 
unusable due to a motherboard failure. According to the manufacturer it has 
also affected the hard drive. Not being insured for any data, the manufacturer 
have replaced the drive and disposed of the original.
Luckily for us, all our data was backed up on an external drive, so at first, 
this was not a big issue. However, it would be our luck that yesterday, 
January 7, 2010, again at approximately lunchtime, our 16 month old 500GB 
Western Digital hard drive in USB caddy became mechanically faulty as well. To 
add insult to injury, the spare machine we are using had to be reformatted, 
because Windows kindly decided to save the broken drive's MFT to the internal.
In short, plain English, we have lost all our data, which includes over 50GB 
of sound effects costing over £2500, approximately 5GB of incomplete and 
released materials, and an absolute handful of software in all categories of 
distribution and function.
I am currently in contact with a data recovery specialist to see what he can 
do, however I am thinking that chances are slim in retrieving the data, either 
because of physical damage to the disks, or because of our financial situation.
I have kept the website up for convenience purposes, but support for available 
software will be extremely limited until I can get it rewritten.
As a side note, if anybody can give me any tips on backing up data securely 
and reliably short of buying two dozen hard drives I would be most thankful. 
*Smile*
Regards,
Damien C. Sadler
Annoyed X-Sight Interactive manager.
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-07 Thread dark
I do love mine,  then again I already have a surround sound system,   
though no plans to buy an Iphone as yet, ;D.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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an external hd is on my to get list, right before a surround sspeaker
system and an IPhone.
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Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:54 PM
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Ouch damien, - nasty!

Myself, for backup purposes i use a full external self-powered harddrive
which even has a separate power supply, and spends most of it's time in my
bottom draw when not actually used to back things up.

I do admit though, if this and my main desktop failed simultaniously, 
as seemed to happen to you, I'd also be up the creak without a paddle, 
especially sinse my laptop only has a 32 gb drive so cannot store much at
all.

I just hope you can yank stuff back from this.

all the best,

Dark.
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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:51 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


Hi folks,
After a hectic Christmas holiday, we have cleaned up the website a little,
and we are now hopefully on the run again. However, there is a slight hitch.
On December 26, 2009, at approximately lunchtime, our main machine became
unusable due to a motherboard failure. According to the manufacturer it has
also affected the hard drive. Not being insured for any data, the
manufacturer have replaced the drive and disposed of the original.
Luckily for us, all our data was backed up on an external drive, so at
first, this was not a big issue. However, it would be our luck that
yesterday, January 7, 2010, again at approximately lunchtime, our 16 month
old 500GB Western Digital hard drive in USB caddy became mechanically faulty
as well. To add insult to injury, the spare machine we are using had to be
reformatted, because Windows kindly decided to save the broken drive's MFT
to the internal.
In short, plain English, we have lost all our data, which includes over 50GB
of sound effects costing over £2500, approximately 5GB of incomplete and
released materials, and an absolute handful of software in all categories of
distribution and function.
I am currently in contact with a data recovery specialist to see what he can
do, however I am thinking that chances are slim in retrieving the data,
either because of physical damage to the disks, or because of our financial
situation.
I have kept the website up for convenience purposes, but support for
available software will be extremely limited until I can get it rewritten.
As a side note, if anybody can give me any tips on backing up data securely
and reliably short of buying two dozen hard drives I would be most thankful.
*Smile*
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-07 Thread shaun everiss
well dark I was worried that my main system would die I had some cds but these 
were out of date, in fact the last cd I made was in 07.
Most stuff is to big to backup to cd now anyway.

the issue with the drive took about 2 months to find out it was actually dead 
then another 3 months to find replacement drives.
nerve racking I tell you, though little chance of everything dieing unless we 
have a stove blow, a fire, earthquake or other issue, or the house get hit by 
lightning.
At 05:54 a.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:
Ouch damien, - nasty!

Myself, for backup purposes i use a full external self-powered harddrive which 
even has a separate power supply, and spends most of it's time in my bottom 
draw when not actually used to back things up.

I do admit though, if this and my main desktop failed simultaniously,   
as seemed to happen to you, I'd also be up the creak without a paddle,   
especially sinse my laptop only has a 32 gb drive so cannot store much at all.

I just hope you can yank stuff back from this.

all the best,

Dark.
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Hi folks,
After a hectic Christmas holiday, we have cleaned up the website a little, and 
we are now hopefully on the run again. However, there is a slight hitch.
On December 26, 2009, at approximately lunchtime, our main machine became 
unusable due to a motherboard failure. According to the manufacturer it has 
also affected the hard drive. Not being insured for any data, the manufacturer 
have replaced the drive and disposed of the original.
Luckily for us, all our data was backed up on an external drive, so at first, 
this was not a big issue. However, it would be our luck that yesterday, 
January 7, 2010, again at approximately lunchtime, our 16 month old 500GB 
Western Digital hard drive in USB caddy became mechanically faulty as well. To 
add insult to injury, the spare machine we are using had to be reformatted, 
because Windows kindly decided to save the broken drive's MFT to the internal.
In short, plain English, we have lost all our data, which includes over 50GB 
of sound effects costing over £2500, approximately 5GB of incomplete and 
released materials, and an absolute handful of software in all categories of 
distribution and function.
I am currently in contact with a data recovery specialist to see what he can 
do, however I am thinking that chances are slim in retrieving the data, either 
because of physical damage to the disks, or because of our financial situation.
I have kept the website up for convenience purposes, but support for available 
software will be extremely limited until I can get it rewritten.
As a side note, if anybody can give me any tips on backing up data securely 
and reliably short of buying two dozen hard drives I would be most thankful. 
*Smile*
Regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien,
Man, I really feel for you. That really is some bad luck. I hope you
will be able to recover something from this desaster.

Cheers!



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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-07 Thread shaun everiss
well you need 2 to be safe really.
At 06:34 a.m. 8/01/2010, you wrote:
an external hd is on my to get list, right before a surround sspeaker system 
and an IPhone.
- Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


Ouch damien, - nasty!

Myself, for backup purposes i use a full external self-powered harddrive
which even has a separate power supply, and spends most of it's time in my
bottom draw when not actually used to back things up.

I do admit though, if this and my main desktop failed simultaniously, 
as seemed to happen to you, I'd also be up the creak without a paddle, 
especially sinse my laptop only has a 32 gb drive so cannot store much at
all.

I just hope you can yank stuff back from this.

all the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Damien Sadler 
dam...@x-sight-interactive.net
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:51 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News


Hi folks,
After a hectic Christmas holiday, we have cleaned up the website a little,
and we are now hopefully on the run again. However, there is a slight hitch.
On December 26, 2009, at approximately lunchtime, our main machine became
unusable due to a motherboard failure. According to the manufacturer it has
also affected the hard drive. Not being insured for any data, the
manufacturer have replaced the drive and disposed of the original.
Luckily for us, all our data was backed up on an external drive, so at
first, this was not a big issue. However, it would be our luck that
yesterday, January 7, 2010, again at approximately lunchtime, our 16 month
old 500GB Western Digital hard drive in USB caddy became mechanically faulty
as well. To add insult to injury, the spare machine we are using had to be
reformatted, because Windows kindly decided to save the broken drive's MFT
to the internal.
In short, plain English, we have lost all our data, which includes over 50GB
of sound effects costing over £2500, approximately 5GB of incomplete and
released materials, and an absolute handful of software in all categories of
distribution and function.
I am currently in contact with a data recovery specialist to see what he can
do, however I am thinking that chances are slim in retrieving the data,
either because of physical damage to the disks, or because of our financial
situation.
I have kept the website up for convenience purposes, but support for
available software will be extremely limited until I can get it rewritten.
As a side note, if anybody can give me any tips on backing up data securely
and reliably short of buying two dozen hard drives I would be most thankful.
*Smile*
Regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-07 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems to be
nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that drastic
happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Hi folks,
After a hectic Christmas holiday, we have cleaned up the website a little,
and we are now hopefully on the run again. However, there is a slight hitch.
On December 26, 2009, at approximately lunchtime, our main machine became
unusable due to a motherboard failure. According to the manufacturer it has
also affected the hard drive. Not being insured for any data, the
manufacturer have replaced the drive and disposed of the original.
Luckily for us, all our data was backed up on an external drive, so at
first, this was not a big issue. However, it would be our luck that
yesterday, January 7, 2010, again at approximately lunchtime, our 16 month
old 500GB Western Digital hard drive in USB caddy became mechanically faulty
as well. To add insult to injury, the spare machine we are using had to be
reformatted, because Windows kindly decided to save the broken drive's MFT
to the internal.
In short, plain English, we have lost all our data, which includes over 50GB
of sound effects costing over £2500, approximately 5GB of incomplete and
released materials, and an absolute handful of software in all categories of
distribution and function.
I am currently in contact with a data recovery specialist to see what he can
do, however I am thinking that chances are slim in retrieving the data,
either because of physical damage to the disks, or because of our financial
situation.
I have kept the website up for convenience purposes, but support for
available software will be extremely limited until I can get it rewritten.
As a side note, if anybody can give me any tips on backing up data securely
and reliably short of buying two dozen hard drives I would be most thankful.
*Smile*
Regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive News

2010-01-07 Thread Munawar Bijani
Hi,
Add to that that the average price of data recovery--which involves breaking 
the seal on a drive--is minimum $845. I had a drive crash on me once and 
thought my data wasn't worth $845...but in this case, wow. I hope you can 
find a place that will do it cheaper.
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Hi Damion,
Wow-I definitely feel sorry for you. That's crazy-your luck seems to be
nonexistent. Personally, I have never had anything quite that drastic
happen, but I have had system crashes-that's never fun.
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news

2009-12-06 Thread Jacob Kruger
The IDE is usable if you make use of things like the relevant jaws scripts 
etc., and there are workarounds for accessibility of the rendered 
interface,.


Some of the resulting technology is a problem, but not all of it, and, for 
example, the upcoming MS technology where they make use of user interface 
automation, instead of MS Accessibility API as before is renderable in .Net, 
although currently it's not all that easy to actually work thereon within 
VS.Net, etc. etc. and, yes, not all screen readers have support for it as of 
yet, but it seems like it might be microsofts thing they will be 
implementing as such, so I would assume that the screen reader producers 
will have to look into it a bit more.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news



Hi Thomas,
I decided against the .net framework for several reasons.
For a start, I could never get to grips with the IDE interface.
For a second I always had trouble with .net based interfaces, as 
screenreaders sometimes cannot recognise the class of the control that is 
in focus. For example, it might just say OK instead of OK Button.
Although this doesn't hold true for games, with them being entirely audio 
based, there's still the IDE.
Then there's the fact that .net software's code can be hacked into unless 
you use some form of obfuscation. According to a friend who also used 
vb.net on a temporary basis, there is a piece of software out there that 
can decompile .net based software. I don't know if that is because of the 
fact that most of the application is referencing different class objects, 
but nevertheless I wouldn't want to go down that road if I knew that my 
software could be hacked.

Regards,
Damien.



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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news



Hi Damien,
Yeah, I have the same problem here. Even though I had C++ in college and 
have used it for some Linux software development once I began using C# 
.NET for game development it is hard to go back to C++. Although, one of 
my projects, USA Raceway, is actually being written in C++, and just 
feels wierd not being able to depend on the .NET Framework for the better 
string classes etc.



Damien C. Sadler wrote:

Hi Thomas,
That's just what my recommender told me. That's why I have completely 
removed VB from my system so's I don't get tempted with my old ways 
again *smile*.

Regards,
Damien.



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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news

2009-12-05 Thread Damien C. Sadler

Hi Thomas,
I decided against the .net framework for several reasons.
For a start, I could never get to grips with the IDE interface.
For a second I always had trouble with .net based interfaces, as 
screenreaders sometimes cannot recognise the class of the control that is in 
focus. For example, it might just say OK instead of OK Button.
Although this doesn't hold true for games, with them being entirely audio 
based, there's still the IDE.
Then there's the fact that .net software's code can be hacked into unless 
you use some form of obfuscation. According to a friend who also used vb.net 
on a temporary basis, there is a piece of software out there that can 
decompile .net based software. I don't know if that is because of the fact 
that most of the application is referencing different class objects, but 
nevertheless I wouldn't want to go down that road if I knew that my software 
could be hacked.

Regards,
Damien.



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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news



Hi Damien,
Yeah, I have the same problem here. Even though I had C++ in college and 
have used it for some Linux software development once I began using C# 
.NET for game development it is hard to go back to C++. Although, one of 
my projects, USA Raceway, is actually being written in C++, and just feels 
wierd not being able to depend on the .NET Framework for the better string 
classes etc.



Damien C. Sadler wrote:

Hi Thomas,
That's just what my recommender told me. That's why I have completely 
removed VB from my system so's I don't get tempted with my old ways again 
*smile*.

Regards,
Damien.



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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news

2009-12-05 Thread Munawar Bijani

Hi,
Good luck learning C++; I wish you all the best. It will definitely be 
frustrating at first but it will be better for you in the long run. I 
remember long ago when Three-D Velocity was written in Visual BASIC and I 
converted it to C-Sharp (not exactly C++, but I've had my fair share of C++ 
nonetheless.) I had 400 and some errors to correct before the code would 
even compile! In the end it makes you pay more attention to your code, since 
a lot of things VB lets you do are actually illegal as far as programming 
standards are concerned. Good for you for taking that leap! Converting your 
code to a langauge like C++ will also expose a lot of newer technologies 
like XAudio, DirectX 11, etc. VB6 can only use DirectX 8 as far as I know, 
so once you port your code to C++ you will have no problem running it on 
Windows 7 because the program will no longer depend on the VB 6 runtimes 
which are deprecated libraries in Vista and Seven.

Munawar A. Bijani
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news

2009-12-04 Thread Damien C. Sadler

Hi Peter,
No, I see no real hurry to replace any of my Visual Basic projects until the 
new C++ versions are ready to be released.
The only reason I deleted the AutoIt projects was because they were not 
designed to be open source software, but due to a major flaw with the 
introduction of the AutoIt decompilers, the source code is easily hacked 
into. This was proved to me when certain individuals who shall remain 
nameless hacked into my registration system, and when questioned they sent 
me the decompilers, which I tried myself. Annoyingly, they completely 
bypassed the password protected scripts, decompiled them and gave access to 
code that should have remained closed.
After searching the internet for a fair while, I have learned that nothing 
can be decompiled from a VB6 project, except the names of the libraries and 
procedures used. Other than that, the entire code seems to be converted to 
assembly before compilation.

Regards,
Damien.

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news



hey damien,
are you going to do what you did when you switched from au3, that being 
delete all you did in the prior lang in this case delete acer fire and 
choper challenge?
- Original Message - 
From: Damien C. Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:23 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news



Hi.
I thought it more appropriate to start this on a new thread, hence the 
reason for two messages.
X-Sight Interactive is still on the move. Here are some points of 
interest that will hopefully answer some questions as to why I have been 
absent from the scene for a while.


Website

I am working on a new website. With the equipment and resources I have 
recently purchased, I have expanded my work to a wider range of products 
than just games. However, as this is a games list I will simply lead the 
curious minds to www.x-sight-interactive.net, where the latest news can 
be viewed on the home page.
Our new website will reflect this change, as well as various other 
changes that you may notice, both on the pages, and while downloading.
I hope to have the website redone with as little downtime as possible. 
However, if there is any downtime, it will be between Christmas and new 
year, as this is when the new site will be online.


Blog

Anyone who has been following my blog will know that the blog has not 
been updated for a while. This is because of the difficult interface of 
the new Wordpress 2.8.1 upgrade, we are planning to downgrade back to 
2.7.1, as there were no issues with that version. This will be effective 
as soon as the website is back online.


Software

As you may also know, various software projects, including several games, 
have not been coming in very fast. Although we have been doing extensive 
development work, I have decided, for personal and technical reasons, to 
switch development platforms.
I am now in the process of learning C++. I have been attempting to do 
this whilst developing my current projects in VB6, but this is not only 
delaying my progress, but also making things harder when I'm finally 
sufficient enough with C++ to convert all the libraries and code that I 
have written in VB.

I hope this is OK and that nobody holds this against me *grin*.
Regards,
Damien.
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news

2009-12-04 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Damien,
Glad to hear you are switching to C++. I think you will be much happier 
with it once you learn it. I know it can be somewhat daunting coming 
from a language like Visual Basic 6, but I do beleive it is worth it in 
the end. There really isn't any better language for game development in 
my opinion.



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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news

2009-12-04 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Damien,
Yeah, I don't blame you. AutoIt is crap. Might be alright for newbis, 
but shouldn't b taken very serious for professional game development.


Damien C. Sadler wrote:

Hi Peter,
No, I see no real hurry to replace any of my Visual Basic projects 
until the new C++ versions are ready to be released.
The only reason I deleted the AutoIt projects was because they were 
not designed to be open source software, but due to a major flaw with 
the introduction of the AutoIt decompilers, the source code is easily 
hacked into. This was proved to me when certain individuals who shall 
remain nameless hacked into my registration system, and when 
questioned they sent me the decompilers, which I tried myself. 
Annoyingly, they completely bypassed the password protected scripts, 
decompiled them and gave access to code that should have remained closed.
After searching the internet for a fair while, I have learned that 
nothing can be decompiled from a VB6 project, except the names of the 
libraries and procedures used. Other than that, the entire code seems 
to be converted to assembly before compilation.

Regards,
Damien.



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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news

2009-12-04 Thread Damien C. Sadler

Hi Thomas,
That's just what my recommender told me. That's why I have completely 
removed VB from my system so's I don't get tempted with my old ways again 
*smile*.

Regards,
Damien.



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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news



Hi Damien,
Glad to hear you are switching to C++. I think you will be much happier 
with it once you learn it. I know it can be somewhat daunting coming from 
a language like Visual Basic 6, but I do beleive it is worth it in the 
end. There really isn't any better language for game development in my 
opinion.



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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news

2009-12-04 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Damien,
Yeah, I have the same problem here. Even though I had C++ in college and 
have used it for some Linux software development once I began using C# 
.NET for game development it is hard to go back to C++. Although, one of 
my projects, USA Raceway, is actually being written in C++, and just 
feels wierd not being able to depend on the .NET Framework for the 
better string classes etc.



Damien C. Sadler wrote:

Hi Thomas,
That's just what my recommender told me. That's why I have completely 
removed VB from my system so's I don't get tempted with my old ways 
again *smile*.

Regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news

2009-03-05 Thread Louis Bryant
Hey Damien, is the site pacmate.x-sight-interactive.net up? It makes it 
easier for me to keep the X-Sight games running on PM'S updated, as well as 
to continue releasing other ported games from X-sight. Also, Acefire will be 
done this year. Sorry I am so far behind. HTH.


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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:38 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news



Hey there to all,
We are now pleased to announce the arrival, late though it might be, of 
our behind-the-scenes blog!
This will be a replacement of the old Development Diary, as it will be a 
lot easier to post to.
It will list any activity that is being carried out at X-Sight Interactive 
that may be of little to no importance, depending on the views of the 
reader, but it will at least give an idea of the progress of any new 
product or service that we are working on at the time.
As we have near enough 100 projects on the go, we feel that it would only 
be fair to give updates more regularly than a company who may devote their 
time to one project before starting another.
I hope you find it useful. You can access it either through our homepage, 
or directly at http://blog.x-sight-interactive.net.

Regards,
Damien C. Sadler.
Head of X-Sight Interactive
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news

2009-03-05 Thread Damien Sadler

Louis,
As far as I know that site is still up. I haven't touched any of the sites 
except to make the blog site.

Thanks.
Regards,
Damien.



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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news


Hey Damien, is the site pacmate.x-sight-interactive.net up? It makes it 
easier for me to keep the X-Sight games running on PM'S updated, as well 
as to continue releasing other ported games from X-sight. Also, Acefire 
will be done this year. Sorry I am so far behind. HTH.


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From: Damien Sadler dam...@x-sight-interactive.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:38 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] X-Sight Interactive news



Hey there to all,
We are now pleased to announce the arrival, late though it might be, of 
our behind-the-scenes blog!
This will be a replacement of the old Development Diary, as it will be 
a lot easier to post to.
It will list any activity that is being carried out at X-Sight 
Interactive that may be of little to no importance, depending on the 
views of the reader, but it will at least give an idea of the progress of 
any new product or service that we are working on at the time.
As we have near enough 100 projects on the go, we feel that it would only 
be fair to give updates more regularly than a company who may devote 
their time to one project before starting another.
I hope you find it useful. You can access it either through our homepage, 
or directly at http://blog.x-sight-interactive.net.

Regards,
Damien C. Sadler.
Head of X-Sight Interactive
http://www.x-sight-interactive.net
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight-Interactive news

2008-02-12 Thread Valiant8086 (on laptop)
Hi.
I think it's already out, sorta. At any rate, you'll likely be able to 
download it as soon as damian manages to fix that little problem where you 
can't download anything but webpages atm. Course, it's still a, a beta I 
guess.
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 OO! danger city? are you serious? I can't wait for that. I've so 
 wanted
 to play that for such a long time, and it sounded so streets of rage like.

 Congrats on the site being back up, too.


 Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood!

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 Hi gang,

 We are proud to announce that X-Sight-Interactive's website is finally
 back up, thanks to the spiffing open port network provided by my good
 friend and his family.
 Acefire is very close to release now, just fixing bugs and one more
 feature to put in.
 Self Destruct and Danger City will soon be up on X-Sight.
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight-Interactive news

2008-02-11 Thread constantine (on laptop)
OO! danger city? are you serious? I can't wait for that. I've so wanted 
to play that for such a long time, and it sounded so streets of rage like.

Congrats on the site being back up, too.


Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood!

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 Hi gang,

 We are proud to announce that X-Sight-Interactive's website is finally 
 back up, thanks to the spiffing open port network provided by my good 
 friend and his family.
 Acefire is very close to release now, just fixing bugs and one more 
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Re: [Audyssey] X-Sight-Interactive news

2008-02-08 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi,
Yes! It's finally up! Can't wait for Acefire's release!

-Ryan Smith
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