Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, Best of luck. I hope the wedding goes well, and wish you the best of happiness. Cheers! On 10/3/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Cool. Not that I'm anywhere near that point yet as I've said, but I'm working on it, albeit extremely slowly. Got a lot going on what

Re: [Audyssey] (no subject)

2010-10-04 Thread Mike Reiser
Keep it good quality, have a t3 connection so downloading is fine. Mike -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 8:31 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] (no subject) Hi everyone, Ok, it has come to my attention that some of you were upset or

Re: [Audyssey] (no subject)

2010-10-04 Thread william lomas
Would rather myself no good quality, as then the game will run smoother Those on dialup will ahve to get someone else to get it for them why should rest of us suffer and lose quality On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Mike Reiser wrote: Keep it good quality, have a t3 connection so downloading is

Re: [Audyssey] (no subject)

2010-10-04 Thread Milos Przic
Hi Tom and all, Quality all the way! So no matter if the file size is 200 or 300 mb, if it is because of the quality then it's ok. Best! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline zkl...@speedpost.net To: Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!

2010-10-04 Thread Bryan Peterson
Thanks. As I may have said it's just unfortunate that her own folks don't think it's important enough to ask for the day off from work. Their loss I suppose. But yeah, if I can find a decent sound effects vender where the prices won't totally break the bank I may see if she wouldn't be

Re: [Audyssey] mota 14

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Very true. Although, I can say I tried doing a recording earlier and the 3d version has a number of bugs in it such as the torch burning out but you can still hear it burning and things like that. That's one of those bugs I never fixed in the Genesis Engine, but the new cross-platform

[Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Thomas, I don't think you should compromise making the MOTA smaller. In today's world, if a person doesn't have a high speed internet connection then they will be missing out on plenty of things more than just large games, such as digital books on the BARD site and podcasts. You could

Re: [Audyssey] (no subject)

2010-10-04 Thread Harmony Neil
No one I know uses dial up any more. If they did, they moved to normal broadband ages ago. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 04 October 2010 07:50 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey]

Re: [Audyssey] (no subject)

2010-10-04 Thread dark
Size doesn't bother me at all. While if it was several gb it might be an issue, I dcan't really conceive of it being a problem given the size of audio games. Sarah is I beleve somewhere around the 110 mb mark, so I shouldn't worry, especially if it's going to knock the quality of the audio

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Matheus r.c. souza
yeah, i agree with you guys. i'm also using free download manager here, it's pretty accessible. talking about the size of the game, i disagree that it should be compressed to 50 mb, for example, the mainstream games actualy have much more than 100 mb, the usual size for a game installed on your

[Audyssey] A new file

2010-10-04 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi, I have put a new file up on my site. File name winspan2.exe file size 1.7m bytes In spanker version 2 I added game pad support and there is now 3 modes of play, spank women, spank men and mixed. The file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech games page. Jim Born to

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Ryan Chou
might I suggest a compressed zip file or something? On 10/7/10, Matheus r.c. souza an...@bol.com.br wrote: yeah, i agree with you guys. i'm also using free download manager here, it's pretty accessible. talking about the size of the game, i disagree that it should be compressed to 50 mb, for

Re: [Audyssey] mota 14

2010-10-04 Thread Ben
A recording would be very interesting! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 03 October 2010 20:13 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota 14 Hi Ryan, Well,if you want I can make a

[Audyssey] test. Ignore? Thanks.

2010-10-04 Thread Charles Rivard
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Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Ryan, Sound files do not compress very much when zipped, and usually creating the install file does compress everything to as small of a download file size as possible. Phil - Original Message - From: Ryan Chou rc4896...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org

Re: [Audyssey] (no subject)

2010-10-04 Thread peter Mahach
well, on my 10mb no cap connection large files aren't much of a problem, I so vote for quality. I remember back when the old mota (as in mysteries of the aztechs) had cd quality sounds, then for no reason thomas compressed the sounds to 22khz, which sounds, well, not as good as it used to. at

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Willem
Hi Phil. This all depends on which compression the installer uses, though multiple layers of compression rarely makes sense. I've done an experiment with zip and 7z (aka lzma2). Zip makes the file 90% its origional size, while lzma2 yields 80%. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak

Re: [Audyssey] mota 14

2010-10-04 Thread Muhammed Deniz
I look forward to it. My audio games for the blind group. Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is welcome, talking about computer problems is welcome when their are know holidays but that's only in easter holidays or know holidays. If you want to joyn, just

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Phil, In my temporary spanker folder the 118 wave files, the 1 little text file, a tiny batch file and the spanker executable file add up to 2,401,704 bytes. When zipped they equal 1,703,313 bytes. And then making that zip file into a self extracting zip file makes it1,765,376 bytes.

Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!

2010-10-04 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Hey Bryan All the best my man. Years of happiness! I'd crash the party if I knew where. *lol* Ron - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta

Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!

2010-10-04 Thread Bryan Peterson
Probably just at the Twin Falls County Courthouse LOL. Well that's where the ceremony is. THen next year we were planning to have a little barbecue next summer. I'm not entirely sure about that though now that Maria's parents have shown that their daughter's wedding isn't important enough to

Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!

2010-10-04 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Hi Bryan That's a kick and I'm sory to hear they aren't more behind the two of you. It's not enough to say that's one bummer. As long as the two of you are ready and willing then it's promising. Ron - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!

2010-10-04 Thread Bryan Peterson
Well the irony of the whole thing is that both of them have told Maria they approve of me. They just don't feel the occasion's important enough to warrant their attendance. At least my folks are going to be there and they adore Maria. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message

Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!

2010-10-04 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Hi Bryan Okay we're beginning to stray off topic here but I can't imagine parents thinking that way. Feel free off list if you'd like. Talk soon Ron - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday,

Re: [Audyssey] (no subject)

2010-10-04 Thread Ben
The full installer with uncompressed sound is perfect. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 04 October 2010 02:31 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] (no subject) Hi everyone, Ok, it has come

Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi That's too about her parents, but some people are like that I guess. Anyway, as for game sounds you might want to try a place called shockwave sound. I've gotten a lot of good sounds from them for a reasonable price. On 10/4/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Thanks. As I

Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Smile. Let's get back on topic. Thanks. On 10/4/10, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Well the irony of the whole thing is that both of them have told Maria they approve of me. They just don't feel the occasion's important enough to warrant their attendance. At least my

Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14!

2010-10-04 Thread Bryan Peterson
Hmmm. I'll look into that. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota beta 14! Hi That's too about her parents,

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim, Smile. That's all? That's pretty small potatoes compared to the current release of Mysteries of the Ancients. Beta 14 is almost 350 MB fully installed and even compressed using Inno Setup it is around 170 MB. The Linux setup looks like it will be around 250 MB because tar doesn't appear to

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Thomas, I suggest bzip2, or apparently xz. gzip's compression ratios aren't all that great. Hope this helps, Zack. On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 06:53:28PM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Jim, Smile. That's all? That's pretty small potatoes compared to the current release of Mysteries of the

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Charles Rivard
Then again, if size isn't a problem for most people, why even zip it? If you don't, that's just one less installation step. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Zachary Kline To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 5:56

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Ryan Chou
imo, the sounds uncompressed and compressed sound almost the same to me so I would say compress On 10/4/10, Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Then again, if size isn't a problem for most people, why even zip it? If you don't, that's just one less installation step. --- Shepherds

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Well, one purpose of using any zip tool is simply to pack multipl files into one single archive that can be downloaded. If you are going to use an archive like zip, bz2, gz, whatever you might as well find the one with the best compression as well. It is not just the people downloading

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Zack, Thanks for the suggestion. Next time I think I'll definitely try using bzip2 to compress the file. As you say gzip isn't very good. Unfortunately, I'm about 75% through uploading the Linux MOTA beta 14 file, and I'd hate to stop it, rezip the thing, and upload again after it has been

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ryan, Actually, Inno Setup, the Windows setup program i use, has its own built-in compression which is pretty good. It cut the install down from close to 350 MB to around 170 MB which is fairly good. I'm afraid you can't get much better than that for compression. As for the Linux side I'm still

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, No worries. Everyone seams to be in favor of keeping the sounds etc uncompressed for maximum quality so that's what they are going to get. I've already built the setup packages for Windows and Linux and am busy trying to get the website ready for public release. I'll naturally let everyone

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Thomas, Wow...thoseare farely large download sizes, aren't they? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re:

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Thomas, Altouhg it seems that you have made up your mind, I shall put my 1 asnd a half cents into the conversation, and say that I saw no reduction of quality in your Ogg vorbus compression, and you might as well go for the smallest size possible. Best Regards, Hayden -Original

[Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 Released!

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi everyone, I am happy to announce that Tomb Hunter Mysteries of the Ancients beta 14 is now officially uploaded and ready for download. This all new release is a major upgrade from beta 13 and earlier. What's New Beta 14 now uses our cross-platform engine Open G3D which uses a number of free

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayden, Well, personally I do notice some reduction in quality. It is very slight, but it takes some of the pitch out of the sounds, and it isn't quite as sharp/clear as a *.wav file. I suppose the fact I am a musician, am use to listening to tone and pitch, something like that is more apparent

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Charles Rivard
I hadn't thought of that at all. Good points. --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mota download size Hi

Re: [Audyssey] mota download size

2010-10-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Well, yes and no. If we are comparing it to the average audio game size it would be quite big. However, as it has been pointed out before most mainstream games are extremely huge compared to Mysteries of the Ancients. I think Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness is something like 2 GB fully

Re: [Audyssey] freedom games

2010-10-04 Thread Katie Madison
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[Audyssey] MOTA for Linux AMD64?

2010-10-04 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Thomas, I was wondering if it might be possible to compile a version of your source code for AMD64-based Linux distributions? I tried to find a copy of your 32-bit sfml libraries at the URL you provided and had no luck. Perhaps you forgot to upload them? Best and thanks, Zack. -- If I love

Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 Released!

2010-10-04 Thread Castanedagarcia_Alfredo
So I see you decided to keep beta 14, even if the beta was not officially released? How was it different than the broken release and the official release? You see, I thought it was fully released and i installed iand played it. For some reason, I got no blue screen, so I did not have to

[Audyssey] unable to install mota to my linux

2010-10-04 Thread Petr Bláha
Hello Thomas and all, i am just trying to install mota to my ubuntu 10.4 but im not able to download the libsfml packages. When i try to download them via the apt-get i tells me cannot find and when i want to download them from usagames site it tells me 404 not found. So what may i do? Is

Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 Released!

2010-10-04 Thread shaun everiss
good game tom. enemies are good, but you never know you are in range of an enemy until its in front of you, its fine to shoot but because the sounds don't pan swinging at them is a bit hard. also if you walk and try to say pick up things you need to stop before you do that. objects don't

[Audyssey] MOTA Beta 14 for Linux: Initial impressions

2010-10-04 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Thomas, I managed to get my hands on 32-bit SFML libraries and so far have been enjoying the MOTA experience under Linux. There are a few hiccups though. The sound description menu doesn't seem to fully work. Some sounds, consistently, are not playing. Specifically, the ledge sound isn't