Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-14 Thread Jim Kitchen
y 11, 2011 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Hi Dark, Back in the nineties there were FidoNet echos (mailing lists) named things such as NFB Talk, Blind Talk, Blink Talk etc, and of course there was the Blink Link BBS. Those were the places along with

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-12 Thread Hayden Presley
:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Rofl. And I could even punch really hard. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 2:58 PM Su

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-12 Thread Christopher Bartlett
Look, in a world (insert ominous voice-over voice) where three separate people have been shocked that I am capable of having sex, with another person, and helping them to enjoy it immensely, to be thought of as having super powers is hardly surprising. For the record the three people were not grac

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-12 Thread shaun everiss
I suppose I have superpowers in a sence. fast typing and the ability to know where I am on the system at all times. Either we are super blinks or the sighted have holes in their hard drives. Last month I told my dad how to copy a cd. He has forgotten it again and its dead simple. At 03:14 a.m. 13/

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-12 Thread Shiny protector
Rofl. And I could even punch really hard. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games LOL. And I supposedly have super e

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-12 Thread Bryan Peterson
mers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Hi Bryan, I don't know about you, but I really have super powers. Typing faster than a speeding bullet. Smarter than Stephen Hawking. Able to cross the stre

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, I don't know about you, but I really have super powers. Typing faster than a speeding bullet. Smarter than Stephen Hawking. Able to cross the street without a sighted guide. Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, its super blink. A mighty blind man with powers and abilities greater than any mo

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-12 Thread Jacob Kruger
t his spirit...' - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Well does it mean super blind? - Original Message ---

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-11 Thread Frost
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 05:04:10PM -0600, Hayden Presley wrote: > What the heck does superblind mean anyway? [My Reply:] It means that the sighted person is super-clueless. Michael -- Linux User: 177869 # Powered By: Intel # http://rivensight.dyndns.or

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-11 Thread shaun everiss
he Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Hayden Presley" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Hi, What the heck does superblind mean anywa

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-11 Thread Bryan Peterson
;" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Hi, What the heck does superblind mean anyway? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-11 Thread Hayden Presley
Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Uhm, excuse me? We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-11 Thread Bryan Peterson
ho say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Hi, Oh right sorry. I don't know, Dark said that blink wa

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-11 Thread Shiny protector
y] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games No, I was confused? Superblind? We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clea

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-11 Thread Bryan Peterson
No, I was confused? Superblind? We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games I didn&

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-11 Thread Shiny protector
y] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Uhm, excuse me? We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths Abou

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-11 Thread Bryan Peterson
Uhm, excuse me? We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "Shiny protector" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Well does it mean super b

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-11 Thread Shiny protector
Well does it mean super blind? - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Blink is a sort of affectionate slang term for blind p

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-11 Thread Lisa Hayes
It's not finding our eye sight again that sucks. grin. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: "Jim Kitchen" To: "dark" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstrea

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-11 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Dark, Back in the nineties there were FidoNet echos (mailing lists) named things such as NFB Talk, Blind Talk, Blink Talk etc, and of course there was the Blink Link BBS. Those were the places along with the Audyssey magazine that we shared knowledge about and the accessible games. So bli

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-11 Thread Frost
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:55:25PM -, dark wrote: > This was actually something I noticed about my rather disasterous > couple of years at a specialist school, they totally disliked the > word blind in any context, [My Reply:] To the blazes with what they want to make themselves feel

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, I can't say about the U.K. but here in the U.S. I've heard a few sighted people sling the term blink around a few times. I believe the first time I heard it I was in Junior High and a sighted person used it, and in a rather insulting way. So it is not exactly a fun, harmless, nickna

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Clement Chou
ent Chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Hey Dark I'm aware of the history of the word. grins. That was why I mentioned it... since now beat em ups and fightin

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread dark
age - From: "Clement Chou" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Hey Dark I'm aware of the history of the word. grins. That was why I mentioned it... since now

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Clement Chou
Hey Dark I'm aware of the history of the word. grins. That was why I mentioned it... since now beat em ups and fighting games would be recognized as separate genres, at least by most people. Either way I see your point... I loved old beat em ups as well, but the genre does seem to have died o

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread dark
As I said, the first person I heard use this term was Che, so I actually always took it as a rather fun phrase more than anything else, the way on the audeasy site in the news I've sometimes had things like "persons lacking in visibility" or "photonicly disadvantaged" This was actually so

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Frost
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:54:23PM -0500, Trouble wrote: > They don't like being called those terms and neither should you. [My Reply:] Oh, I dunno. I kinda like the nickname "Gaijin." It's a pretty bad slang term describing white people in Japanese. Being that "Foreign White Devil"

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Frost
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 04:31:30PM -, dark wrote: > Btw, on the super powers issue, quite often it's not super powers so > much as a different way of doing things. [My Reply:] Yeah, the mind can be trained to do some pretty amazing things, like move hundreds of muscle groups while wa

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Charles Rivard
, none was meant? --- Shepherds are the best beasts! - Original Message - From: "Trouble" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games i can tell you the reason its comin

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Trouble
i can tell you the reason its coming out. it is just as degrading to the blind community as a few others are to different cultures. They don't like being called those terms and neither should you. The person you mentioned that slings this saying around has big issues with blindness. You can rea

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread dark
I hadn't actually heard the term blink until Che martin first used it, in fact I've never heard it used outside this community. If some sighted people do use it, I wonder if it's more us specific? This would also explain why muhammed hadn't heard it before either. Btw, on the super powers issu

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread dark
udyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games What does super blink mean? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Muhammed, Well, the term blink comes from an old term for blindness. I guess some people with low vision blinked alot, and some sighted people started calling people with vision loss blinks. Some people also seam to act like some blind people who do incredible things like become a great musicia

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Bryan Peterson
Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games What does super blink mean? - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Ken the Crazy" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sen

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Shiny protector
What does super blink mean? - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Ken the Crazy" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Hi Ken, He certainly

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Clement Chou
Only way to convince sighted people... prove it to them over and over again. I'm in high school... grade 12 now, in my extra year, and I have a group of friends who can look past it pretty easily after 3 years of dealing with me. It's almost an everyday thing to hop online for a few matches of

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Bryan Peterson
ist" Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Hi Ken, He certainly did. However, you know the way people view visual disability in general. Either we can't do anything, AKA we are practically helpless, or some o

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ken, He certainly did. However, you know the way people view visual disability in general. Either we can't do anything, AKA we are practically helpless, or some of us have developed super powers. Some people just simply can not believe that someone totally blind can play and beat a vidio game.

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Bryan Peterson
rs Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games Hey Phil, didn't you post an article about a teen-ager that beat sighted people at video games, and how he plays facing away from the screen to mess with

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-10 Thread Ken the Crazy
e pleasant way to experience massage! It's the Caring without the Staring! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, That was basically my point. An accessible example of the kind of thing I'm talking about is ESP Whoop Ass. Obviously, that game is far simplar than the mainstream fighting games, but a similar concept applies here. In Whoop Ass you hear the punch coming from the left, right, or center

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-09 Thread Charles Rivard
Thanks. You made sense. A game designed for the blind came immediately to mind as I heard your description. Some of the mainstream games would sound like a more realistic, very much more advanced version of the fight in the bar in the original ESP Pinball Classic. You block a punch when you

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-09 Thread Tom Randall
Hi all, catching up on the flood of stuff about this as best I can, don't have too much to add here other than well said, Thomas! I couldn't've put it any better. If the mainstream gaming thing isn't your thing that's perfectly fine, map based strategy games, card games and turn based games aren'

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-09 Thread Tommy
I agreed with you completely. I played video game since I was 6 years old. The sound of it is help me to know where and when to punch. I even play Resident evil games. I realize on the sounds and the music. A lot of people ask me how can I do it. I told them it's hard to explain all the details.

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-09 Thread Clement Chou
All very wel said, Tom. Having read that, I know that fighting games aren't for everyone. But for the curious, it is a good place to start, and once you do start, you might find that fighting games have a lot more depth and replayability that you don't imagine would be there when you first star

Re: [Audyssey] Clearing Up Some Myths About Mainstream Games

2011-02-09 Thread Nick Helms
Thomas, you rule On 2/9/11, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi everyone, > > As moderator and an interested party I've read almost everything > written on the "frustrated with the blind gaming community" topic and > it seams to me one of the biggest issues here is clear cut > communication between those who