Footprints to the mail (Re: [PATCH] index.xml/elsewhere.xml/binidex.xml/source.xml/project.xml)
Hello Committers, On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 00:45:42 +0900 (Subject: [PATCH] index.xml/elsewhere.xml/binidex.xml/source.xml/project.xml) Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here, I attached the zipped file (jakarta-site2-enhance.zip) including, > > 1. index.xml.txt > 2. elsewhere.xml.txt > 3. binindex.xml.txt > 4. sourceindex.xml.txt > 5. stylesheets_project.xml.txt > > -- > > Explanation: > > 1: For the enhancement of the top page of Jakarta site. > 2: Fixed the date of the release of Scalab > 3: Fixed the downloadable directory of new released BCEL (5.1) > 4: Same as 3 (above) > 5: "./proposals/tapestry" to "./tapestry" (Tapestry is now >the Subproject of Jakarta, not in proposals) >and added link to "ASF Glossary" pages in Incubator >Furthermore, removed duplication of "avalon" I've done for myself these above (2-4). But I have a trouble using WinCVS, I noticed I succeeded in the commitment, but there seems no footprints (I mean, the e-mail "cvs:commit" .. mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]). It seems that WinCVS uses e.g. 'cvs -z9 commit -m "Fixed the older Jmeter download version" sourceindex.xml binindex.xml' then messages were... Messaeges--- Checking in sourceindex.xml; /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/sourceindex.xml,v <-- sourceindex.xml new revision: 1.156; previous revision: 1.155 done Checking in binindex.xml; /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/binindex.xml,v <-- binindex.xml new revision: 1.253; previous revision: 1.252 done Mailing the commit message... - when commit. If any committers using winCVS know about this issue, please let me know. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. P.S. This might be a memorial 100th mail to apache-world for me as well as the first mail using .apache.org account. ;-) - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Top page (Re: [PATCH] index.xml patch for introduction to related projects)
Hello, It seems that there was no objections, opinions etc. for this. So, I'll make this within 36 hours. (In holiday, taking in consideration of the social effects ;-) Sincerely, Tetsuya. -- On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 12:31:06 +0100 (Subject: Re: [PATCH] index.xml patch for introduction to related projects (was Re: [PATCH] Re: Jakarta Newsletter ...)) robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i quite like the idea of adding a table giving introductions for related > projects but i know some other people think that the welcome page is too > big already. > > opinions, anybody? > > - robert > > On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > > > > Hi, Robert and all. > > > > > >> applied. many thanks. > >> > >> i hope you'll find some time to add something about BCEL (and maybe James > >> too) to the next newsletter > >> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9. > > > > Thanks you very much. I confirmed. > > Sure, I will take care of the wiki if possible. > > > > Then, I created a new patch for > > 1. Correcting the order of "James Released" and "Scalab released" in > > "other news" section. > > 2. Adding Tapestry, in proposal, to the table of products list. > > 3. Creating new table for Ant, Avalon, DB, Incubator and James Projects > > (Jakarta-Related Projects). > > > > The look and feel of new index.html might be .. > > http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/index.en.html > > > > I think this will avoid the confusion for all the new comer > > to jakarta (and also for the elder, senior jakarta-n ;-) > > and will be easy introduction to the related (maybe merged into > > jakarta soon) projects. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Top page
Hello, Danny and All,
Thank you for your opinion. ("Opinions keep the community healthy and
wealthy" ... Oh, this is my opinion, also ;-)
There seem many points of view in analyzing, reviewing and
evaluating the top page
1. Total size (byte)
2. Keywords
3. Number of links
4. Look and Feel
5. Consistency
From the point of view #1,
<1> http://jakarta.apache.org/ (now)
HTML: 32841byte Images: 8584byte Total: 41245byte
<2> http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/index.en.html (proposal)
HTML: 42956byte Images: 8584byte Total: 51540byte
From the point of view #2,
<1> 1081 words (Approximately)
<2> 1310 words (Approximately)
This is often used as an indicator of the search engine
optimization.
From the point of view #3, #4 and #5
<1> has self-contradiction in itself, because the related-projects and
jakarta-projects co-exist in the same table and separated in the
left side navigator (Apparent in JAMES). This inconsistency
triggers some sorts of confusions to the beginners of jakarta-world.
However, if we remove JAMES from the top page's table (explanations)
to keep the consistency, I think it is apparant that JAMES' top page
views would be gradually decreased.
(Java beginners do not know what JAMES is, so not be
inspired, motivated to click the left side navi's JAMES' link)
<2> keeps the consistency and keeps the JAMES' top page views
from the standpoint of nature conservation ;-)
/* Maybe its' top page views will be rather increased, because the users
tend to click the links in 'TOP' or 'BOTTOM' .. statistics show */
Also, the top page of jakarta would be a portal of the most
of Java users and developers, as far as the related-projects
are explained in detail and it is arranged properly.
--
I had come to the conclusion that <2> is better than <1>,
given careful consideration to these points above totally.
Any thoughts??
--
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:45:17 +0100
"Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My own opinion is that the home page should be kept small, and we
> should use links to direct people to other pages with further
> information on them. Call me old fasioned but I thought this was the
> point of HTML,
>
> I dont want to have everything in one big page that no-one will
> scroll right down.
>
> Have big pages further in, but IMO keep the homepage as introduction
> and TOC for the site.
>
> d.
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[PATCH] xdocs/site/source.xml -- diff howto
Hi, I noticed that my favorite mail client, Becky!, was great enough to automatically append colored-label to the mails which have "[PATCH]" prefixed subject. And I accidentally found that I once submitted a patch for the introduction of the "how to make -u style diff using WinCVS" to xdocs/site/source.xml. (It was mid of September last year, and maybe Andy was too busy to apply that ;-) ... it was in this mailing list. Here I made a patch for it (including expanded explanation) , zipped (contains site_source.xml.txt), and attached to this e-mail. Please apply this. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> site_source.xml.zip Description: Zip compressed data - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PATCH] xdocs/site/source.xml -- diff howto
Confirmed. Many many thanks. (with love ;-) Sincerely, > Oh... And thanks! :-) > > On 5/30/03 6:48 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So it has been written, so it has been done. Please verify. -- Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PATCH] xdocs/site/source.xml -- diff howto
Andy wrote: > No problem man... And I get love too? Man this opensource stuff is > the best. The money is pretty good, you get love and sometimes people > send you 40 bottles of premium German beer... > > Life is awesome. Oh, joy! Why did it come out to light that I am a man? Russian gentlemen often take me as a lady because my first name ends up with "ya". ;-) (suffix for feminine noun in Russian / Ruski Yazjik) By the way, congratulations upon the promotion of Tapestry to Jakarta Subproject. It seems to have taken a long time (since October last year?), but your efforts have been tremendous. Maybe you are the best "incubator" in Jakarta ;-) What are you planning to incubate next to it? -- AltRMI?? Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- A man who thinks of Money as "S" on a skewer ... with love. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PATCH] xdocs/site/source.xml -- diff howto
Andy wrote: > Oh shit... I meant to delete this one and send the other Disregard it > please. I changed my mind half way through and spoke a little too frankly. > I don't have time for the nuclear fallout Damn, were is the rewind > button on this damn thing. I am anxious probably you have been very tired after the great work. Good sleep, Andy. Take care. -- Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PATCH] index.xml patch for introduction to related projects (was Re: [PATCH] Re: Jakarta Newsletter ...)
Hi, Robert and all. I created new one and put on http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/index.en.html This is my idea. 1. Created a new table for the introductions of related projects. (Ant, Avalon, DB, Incubator, James and MAVEN) 2. Added a direct link to related projects' "site" (for incubator and DB, especially it would be necessary) 3. Fixed the order of "James Released" and "Scalab released" in "other news" section. (Sorry, this was my mistake) 4. Fixed some typos and grammatical errors. 5. Added direct "ComponentsList" link in the row of Jakarta Commons' explanations (I think this is very very useful!) 6. Added "Projects in Proposal" for future enhancements. (Now N/A) And this is based on the newest CVS. If this would be better than the existing one, I'll re-submit patches within a couple of days. Sincerely, -- On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 12:31:06 +0100 (Subject: Re: [PATCH] index.xml patch for introduction to related projects (was Re: [PATCH] Re: Jakarta Newsletter ...)) robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i quite like the idea of adding a table giving introductions for related > projects but i know some other people think that the welcome page is too > big already. > > opinions, anybody? > > - robert > > On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > > > > Hi, Robert and all. > > > > > >> applied. many thanks. > >> > >> i hope you'll find some time to add something about BCEL (and maybe James > >> too) to the next newsletter > >> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9. > > > > Thanks you very much. I confirmed. > > Sure, I will take care of the wiki if possible. > > > > Then, I created a new patch for > > 1. Correcting the order of "James Released" and "Scalab released" in > > "other news" section. > > 2. Adding Tapestry, in proposal, to the table of products list. > > 3. Creating new table for Ant, Avalon, DB, Incubator and James Projects > > (Jakarta-Related Projects). > > > > The look and feel of new index.html might be .. > > http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/index.en.html > > > > I think this will avoid the confusion for all the new comer > > to jakarta (and also for the elder, senior jakarta-n ;-) > > and will be easy introduction to the related (maybe merged into > > jakarta soon) projects. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PATCH] index.xml/elsewhere.xml/binidex.xml/source.xml/project.xml
Hello, Robert and All. Here, I attached the zipped file (jakarta-site2-enhance.zip) including, 1. index.xml.txt 2. elsewhere.xml.txt 3. binindex.xml.txt 4. sourceindex.xml.txt 5. stylesheets_project.xml.txt -- Explanation: 1: For the enhancement of the top page of Jakarta site. 2: Fixed the date of the release of Scalab 3: Fixed the downloadable directory of new released BCEL (5.1) 4: Same as 3 (above) 5: "./proposals/tapestry" to "./tapestry" (Tapestry is now the Subproject of Jakarta, not in proposals) and added link to "ASF Glossary" pages in Incubator Furthermore, removed duplication of "avalon" Please apply these. Sincerely, -- On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:06:36 +0900 (Subject: Re: [PATCH] index.xml patch for introduction to related projects (was Re: [PATCH] Re: Jakarta Newsletter ...)) Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, Robert and all. > > I created new one and put on > http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/index.en.html > This is my idea. > > 1. Created a new table for the introductions of related projects. >(Ant, Avalon, DB, Incubator, James and MAVEN) > 2. Added a direct link to related projects' "site" (for incubator >and DB, especially it would be necessary) > 3. Fixed the order of "James Released" and "Scalab released" in >"other news" section. (Sorry, this was my mistake) > 4. Fixed some typos and grammatical errors. > 5. Added direct "ComponentsList" link in the row of Jakarta >Commons' explanations (I think this is very very useful!) > 6. Added "Projects in Proposal" for future enhancements. (Now N/A) > > And this is based on the newest CVS. > > If this would be better than the existing one, I'll re-submit > patches within a couple of days. > > Sincerely, > > -- > > On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 12:31:06 +0100 > (Subject: Re: [PATCH] index.xml patch for introduction to related projects (was Re: > [PATCH] Re: Jakarta Newsletter ...)) > robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > i quite like the idea of adding a table giving introductions for related > > projects but i know some other people think that the welcome page is too > > big already. > > > > opinions, anybody? > > > > - robert > > > > On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, Robert and all. > > > > > > > > >> applied. many thanks. > > >> > > >> i hope you'll find some time to add something about BCEL (and maybe James > > >> too) to the next newsletter > > >> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9. > > > > > > Thanks you very much. I confirmed. > > > Sure, I will take care of the wiki if possible. > > > > > > Then, I created a new patch for > > > 1. Correcting the order of "James Released" and "Scalab released" in > > > "other news" section. > > > 2. Adding Tapestry, in proposal, to the table of products list. > > > 3. Creating new table for Ant, Avalon, DB, Incubator and James Projects > > > (Jakarta-Related Projects). > > > > > > The look and feel of new index.html might be .. > > > http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/index.en.html > > > > > > I think this will avoid the confusion for all the new comer > > > to jakarta (and also for the elder, senior jakarta-n ;-) > > > and will be easy introduction to the related (maybe merged into > > > jakarta soon) projects. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > - > Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.terra-intl.com/ > (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) > http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ jakarta-site2-enhance.zip Description: Zip compressed data - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Products List available as of 31st May, 2003
Hello, I am personally checking the "versions" of all of the Jakarta and Jakarta-Related Projects. The list I've created is below. If you find some mistakes or anything more to be appended, please let me know. (Especially, Avalon's subprojects are in a dense fog for me...) I hope this will be a help for the all of jakarta-users, watchers and devs. (Of course, for me ;-) --Jakarta Productsas of 31st May, 2003-- Jakarta BCEL5.1 Jakarta BSF 2.3.0 Jakarta Commons :: .. I posted to commons-dev ml :: and now checking... Jakarta ECS 1.4.1 Jakarta JMeter 1.7.2 Jakarta Log4j 1.2.8 Jakarta ORO 2.0.7 (2.0.8-dev) Jakarta POI 1.10-dev Jakarta Regexp 1.2 (1.3-dev) Jakarta Taglibs 1.2 (Standard JSTL) Jakarta Watchdog4.0.0 -- Jakarta Cactus 1.4.1 Jakarta Lucene 1.3-rc1 Jakarta GumpN/A Jakarta Struts 1.1-rc1 Jakarta Tapestry2.4-alpha5 Jakarta Turbine 2.3-dev Fulcrum TDK JCS Jakarta Velocity1.3.1 -- Jakarta Alexandria 0.1 Jakarta Jetspeed1.4.1-beta4 Jakarta Slide 1.0.16 Jakarta Tomcat 3.3.1-alpha 4.1.24 5.0.2-alpha ---Jakarta Related-- Apache Ant Ant 1.5.3 Apache Avalon Framework 4.1.3 Excalibur 4.1 Phoenix 4.0.3 LogKit 1.1 Apache DB OJB 3.1-alpha2-dev Torque 1.0-rc3 Apache Incubator AltRMI 0.9.1 FTPServer 0.1 (Lenya 1.0-rc) ... donated to Cocoon Apache James James 2.1.3 Apache Maven Maven 1.0-beta10 - Sincerely, --------- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Release of Commons HttpClient 2.0 Beta 1
On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 12:29:14 +1000 (Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Release of Commons HttpClient 2.0 Beta 1) dIon Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > > Congratulations, Mike and all of HttpClient team. > > > > When will it be relected to ibiblio? > It's now up there... Confirmed. Thank you. Now available at http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/commons-httpclient/jars/ ----- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PATCH] Instruction to create a patch to vendors.xml
Hi, On Mon, 26 May 2003 09:57:39 -0400 (Subject: Re: [PATCH] Instruction to create a patch to vendors.xml) "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That seems fair. Perhaps add "ill-formed patches will be rejected". > > -Andy You are right. Also, Danny and Steven are right. Even though I've shown (and other ones) the way to make a change to vendors.html, there was no one (no company) who created a patch for it and no one posted here in this mailing list. So, I've come to change my mind that the "sanity check" (remain difficulties to change vendor.html) is still necessary. It's a decent barrier to discourage sales and marketing people to use apache.org as a marketing vehicle. Please discard the patch I once submitted, "[PATCH] Instruction to create a patch to vendors.xml" in the top of this tree. Very sorry. Sincerely, - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] Tetsuya committer at large: Jakarta
How can I express my feeling, deepest gratitude .. I am very flattered. Sure, I would be very pleased to join to your family (as a citizen) and wanna learn more a lot about your family. Now, I am translating the apache incubator site, so I am feeling more closer to apache family. http://incubator.terra-intl.com/ (Japanese) I'll DO the best cordially if your families accept me as one of jakarta/apache citizens. Best Regards, Tetsuya. P.S. By the way, is there "jakarta-general" project?? I remember that there were discussions about the promotion of "jakarta-site" project in July, August last year... -- On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 15:18:34 -0400 (Subject: [PROPOSAL] Tetsuya committer at large: Jakarta) "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to nominate Tetsuya Kitahata to be a Jakarta committer > with rights to jakarta-general. I would nominate him to be a POI > committer, but most of his patches have been outside of POI, but have > benefited all of Jakarta. Not only is he enhancing the site, but he > hosts/performs japanese translations for most of our sites. > > I feel he should be recognized with committership and given some form > of "citizenship" in Jakarta. We should encourage the kind of > cross-project participation that Tetsuya shows. > > Given this I've no doubt he'll eventually make it to the PMC level > and committer of various subprojects, but I think this is a first step. > > > -Andy > > On 6/1/03 11:45 AM, "Tetsuya Kitahata" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hello, Robert and All. > > > > > > Here, I attached the zipped file (jakarta-site2-enhance.zip) including, > > > > 1. index.xml.txt > > 2. elsewhere.xml.txt > > 3. binindex.xml.txt > > 4. sourceindex.xml.txt > > 5. stylesheets_project.xml.txt > > > > -- > > > > Explanation: > > > > 1: For the enhancement of the top page of Jakarta site. > > 2: Fixed the date of the release of Scalab > > 3: Fixed the downloadable directory of new released BCEL (5.1) > > 4: Same as 3 (above) > > 5: "./proposals/tapestry" to "./tapestry" (Tapestry is now > > the Subproject of Jakarta, not in proposals) > > and added link to "ASF Glossary" pages in Incubator > > Furthermore, removed duplication of "avalon" > > > > Please apply these. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > -- > > > > On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:06:36 +0900 > > (Subject: Re: [PATCH] index.xml patch for introduction to related projects > > (was Re: [PATCH] Re: Jakarta Newsletter ...)) > > Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi, Robert and all. > >> > >> I created new one and put on > >> http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/index.en.html > >> This is my idea. > >> > >> 1. Created a new table for the introductions of related projects. > >>(Ant, Avalon, DB, Incubator, James and MAVEN) > >> 2. Added a direct link to related projects' "site" (for incubator > >>and DB, especially it would be necessary) > >> 3. Fixed the order of "James Released" and "Scalab released" in > >>"other news" section. (Sorry, this was my mistake) > >> 4. Fixed some typos and grammatical errors. > >> 5. Added direct "ComponentsList" link in the row of Jakarta > >>Commons' explanations (I think this is very very useful!) > >> 6. Added "Projects in Proposal" for future enhancements. (Now N/A) > >> > >> And this is based on the newest CVS. > >> > >> If this would be better than the existing one, I'll re-submit > >> patches within a couple of days. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> > >> -- > >> > >> On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 12:31:06 +0100 > >> (Subject: Re: [PATCH] index.xml patch for introduction to related projects > >> (was Re: [PATCH] Re: Jakarta Newsletter ...)) > >> robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> i quite like the idea of adding a table giving introductions for related > >>> projects but i know some other people think that the welcome page is too > >>> big already. > >>> > >>> opinions, anybody? > >>> > >>> - robert > >>> > >>> On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi, Robert and
Products List available as of 31st May, 2003
Hello, (To: jakarta-general) Thanks to some feedbacks, probably this list is more accurate. And I am still waiting for the reports, feedbacks to this list. Sincerely, --Jakarta Productsas of 31st May, 2003-- Jakarta BCEL5.1 Jakarta BSF 2.3.0 Jakarta Commons BeanUtils 1.6.1 Betwixt 1.0-Alpha CLI 1.0 Codec 1.1 Collections 2.1 DBCP1.0 Digester1.5 Discovery 0.2-Pre-Release EL (Nightly Builds Only) FileUpload 1.0-Beta1 HttpClient 2.0-Beta1 Jelly 1.0-Beta3 Jexl(Nightly Builds Only) JXPath 1.1 Lang1.0.1 Latka 1.0-Alpha Logging 1.0.3 Modeler 1.0 Net 1.0.0 Pool1.0.1 Validator 1.0.2 Jakarta ECS 1.4.1 Jakarta JMeter 1.8.1 Jakarta Log4j 1.2.8 Jakarta ORO 2.0.7 (2.0.8-dev) Jakarta POI 1.5.1 (1.10-dev) Jakarta Regexp 1.2 (1.3-dev) Jakarta Taglibs 1.2 (Standard JSTL) Jakarta Watchdog4.0.0 -- Jakarta Cactus 1.4.1 Jakarta Lucene 1.3-rc1 Jakarta GumpN/A Jakarta Struts 1.1-rc1 Jakarta Tapestry2.4-alpha5 (soon 3.0-beta-1) Jakarta Turbine 2.2.0 (2.3-dev) Fulcrum TDK JCS Jakarta Velocity1.3.1 -- Jakarta Alexandria 0.1 Jakarta Jetspeed1.4.1-beta4 Jakarta Slide 1.0.16 Jakarta Tomcat 3.3.1-alpha 4.1.24 5.0.2-alpha ---Jakarta Related-- Apache Ant Ant 1.5.3 Apache Avalon Framework 4.1.3 Excalibur 4.1 Phoenix 4.0.3 LogKit 1.2 Apache DB OJB 1.0-rc3 Torque 3.1-alpha1 (3.1-alpha2-dev) Apache Httpd HTTPD 2.0.46 Apache Incubator AltRMI 0.9.1 FTPServer 0.1 (Lenya 1.0-rc) ... donated to Cocoon Apache James James 2.1.3 Apache Maven Maven 1.0-beta10 - - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Products List available as of 31st May, 2003
On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 12:21:27 -0400 (Subject: RE: Products List available as of 31st May, 2003) "Larry Isaacs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Tetsuya, > > A minor change. > > Jakarta Tomcat should be "3.3.1a" instead of 3.3.1-alpha. > > The "a" is indicating it is a patched release derived > from the 3.3.1 release, which was done to address a security > problem. > > Thanks, > Larry Thank you for the mentions. I see, "a" means "advanced", "adjusted" or something, right? Again, many thanks Larry. -- By the way, probably you can use the list of the "products list available as of 31st May, 2003" in the upcoming newsletter and to check the difference between downloadable versions on binindex.cgi. How do you think? >> Robert. Sincerely, - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Top page
Hello, all.
I've done this.
1. Added direct link to "commons-components-list" on the table of
jakarta-commons.
(So, please keep the consistencies in components.html > commons-dev)
2. Created new table for the instruction to the related-projects
(Ant, Avalon, DB, Incubator, James and MAVEN)
3. Fixed misc. (e.g. Turbine do not have Torque any more etc.)
4. Added "Projects in Proposal" for the future enhancements. (Now N/A)
1. Added direct link to www.apache.org (Apache Jakarta/Apache Website)
2. Added direct link to the "ASF Glossary" (Reference/ASF Glossary)
3. Deleted duplicated "Avalon" to keep consistency (Products/Avalon)
4. Added direct link to "HTTPD" project (related/HTTPD)
Sincerely,
Tetsuya.
On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 10:49:35 +0900
(Subject: Re: New Top page)
Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello, Danny and All,
>
>
> Thank you for your opinion. ("Opinions keep the community healthy and
> wealthy" ... Oh, this is my opinion, also ;-)
>
> There seem many points of view in analyzing, reviewing and
> evaluating the top page
>
> 1. Total size (byte)
> 2. Keywords
> 3. Number of links
> 4. Look and Feel
> 5. Consistency
>
> From the point of view #1,
>
> <1> http://jakarta.apache.org/ (now)
>HTML: 32841byte Images: 8584byte Total: 41245byte
> <2> http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/index.en.html (proposal)
>HTML: 42956byte Images: 8584byte Total: 51540byte
>
> From the point of view #2,
>
> <1> 1081 words (Approximately)
> <2> 1310 words (Approximately)
> This is often used as an indicator of the search engine
> optimization.
>
> From the point of view #3, #4 and #5
>
> <1> has self-contradiction in itself, because the related-projects and
> jakarta-projects co-exist in the same table and separated in the
> left side navigator (Apparent in JAMES). This inconsistency
> triggers some sorts of confusions to the beginners of jakarta-world.
> However, if we remove JAMES from the top page's table (explanations)
> to keep the consistency, I think it is apparant that JAMES' top page
> views would be gradually decreased.
> (Java beginners do not know what JAMES is, so not be
> inspired, motivated to click the left side navi's JAMES' link)
> <2> keeps the consistency and keeps the JAMES' top page views
> from the standpoint of nature conservation ;-)
> /* Maybe its' top page views will be rather increased, because the users
> tend to click the links in 'TOP' or 'BOTTOM' .. statistics show */
> Also, the top page of jakarta would be a portal of the most
> of Java users and developers, as far as the related-projects
> are explained in detail and it is arranged properly.
>
> --
>
> I had come to the conclusion that <2> is better than <1>,
> given careful consideration to these points above totally.
>
> Any thoughts??
>
> --
>
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:45:17 +0100
> "Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My own opinion is that the home page should be kept small, and we
> > should use links to direct people to other pages with further
> > information on them. Call me old fasioned but I thought this was the
> > point of HTML,
> >
> > I dont want to have everything in one big page that no-one will
> > scroll right down.
> >
> > Have big pages further in, but IMO keep the homepage as introduction
> > and TOC for the site.
> >
> > d.
>
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cvs commit: jakarta-site2
This commit message was too big for ezmlm (Also, sorry Log: message should be "Added some useful links to left-side navi") From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tetsuya 2003/06/07 21:05:16 Modified:docs index.html docs/site acknowledgements.html agreement.html binindex.html bugs.html communication.html contact.html contributing.html cvsindex.html cvsonunix.html cvsonwin32.html decisions.html dirlayout.html elsewhere.html faqs.html getinvolved.html guidelines.html guides.html idedev-rdeclipse.html idedev-rdnetbeans.html idedev-rdtomcat.html idedevelopers.html idiot.html jakarta-site-tags-example.html jakarta-site-tags.html jakarta-site2.html jakarta-site2b.html jars.html jon.html jspa-agreement.html jspa-position.html legal.html library.html mail.html mail2.html management.html methodology.html micromail.html mission.html newbie.html newproject.html news-2000.html news-2001.html news-2002.html news.html os.html overview.html packageversioning.html proposal.html roles.html source.html sourceindex.html understandingopensource.html vendors.html versioning.html whoweare.html docs/site/news 200206.html 200207.html 200208.html 200209.html 200210.html 200211.html 200212.html 200301.html 200303.html index.html docs/site/pmc 01-01-17-meeting-minutes.html 01-01-17-pictures.html 01-03-19-meeting-agenda.html 01-03-19-meeting-irclog.html 01-03-19-meeting-summary.html 01-04-22-meeting-irclog.html 02-01-30-elections.html index.html Log: Related-projects are explained in detail and they are arranged properly - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Footprints to the mail
Danny, Peter. On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:53:07 +0100 "Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By the time you see: > > Mailing the commit message... > cvs has done the important thing, any problems after that are >99% likely to be with > the mail system. > d. Probably it was my problem. I did not subscribed to site-cvs (subscribed as another mail account). I think this caused the problem and my mails remained in the queue. I suspected that it was due to the problems of WinCVS, but it was not. What a relieaf! Again, Thank you very much. >> Peter & Danny Sincerely, --------- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Release of Commons HttpClient 2.0 Beta 1
(BCongratulations, Mike and all of HttpClient team. (B (BWhen will it be relected to ibiblio? (B (BAnd (IMHO) it is better to rewrite (Bhttp://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/downloads.html (B (B (Bcommons-httpclient (B2.0-alpha3 (Bhttp://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/ (B (B (Bto (B (B (Bcommons-httpclient (B2.0-beta1 (Bhttp://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/ (B (B (B (BAgain, congratulations!! (B (B-- (B (BOn Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:44:37 -0400 (B(Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Release of Commons HttpClient 2.0 Beta 1) (BMichael Becke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (B (B> The Jakarta Commons HttpClient team is proud to announce the release of (B> HttpClient 2.0 beta 1. This is the first feature complete release of (B> HttpClient 2.0. The focus for the rest of the 2.0 development will be (B> on bug fixes and documentation. Please visit the HttpClient website (B> (http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/) and download this (B> latest release. (B> (B> The following changes have been made since Alpha 3: (B> (B> * Changed HttpConnection to use socket timeout instead of busy (B> waiting while expecting input. (B> (B> * Added a getResponseContentLength() method to HttpMethod. (B> (B> * Changed HttpClient to accept correctly encoded URLs instead of (B> attempting to encode them within HttpClient. (B> (B> * 'Expect: 100-continue' logic factored out into an abstract (B> ExpectContinueMethod class (B> (B> * 'Expect: 100-Continue' handshake disabled per default, as it may not (B> work (B> properly with older HTTP/1.0 servers or proxies. (B> (B> * Reengineered authentication code. This includes a fix for (B> HttpClient continually attempting to authenticate to digest realms (B> and (B> provides for better future extensibility. (B> (B> * Authenticator class deprecated (B> (B> * Improved user documentation and example code. (B> (B> * Added ability to differentiate between different hosts using the (B> same realm names. (B> (B> * Added support for specifying a virtual host name to use. (B> (B> * Fixed problem with half-closed connections causing a (B> HttpRecoverableException to be thrown when HttpClient attempts to (B> read (B> from a socket. (B> (B> * Improved reliability with the HEAD method and servers that (B> incorrectly include a response body. (B> (B> * Improved support for connection keep-alive when communicating via a (B> proxy (B> (B> * Added an override of HttpClient.executeMethod that lets the (B> caller specify an HttpState object. (B> (B> * HttpConnectionManager is now a property of the HttpClient class, (B> not of the HttpState class (B> (B> * Added ability to specify the local address that HttpClient should (B> create connections from. (B> (B> Thank you, (B> (B> Commons HttpClient Development Team (B> (B> (B> - (B> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B (B- (BTetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. (BE-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bhttp://www.terra-intl.com/ (B(Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) (Bhttp://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ (B (B (B- (BTo unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BFor additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun copies Jakarta?
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:48:57 +0200 Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://java.net/ But failed in JavaScript ;-) ----- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gump and Unicode
Tim, I looked at the code in codec. It is obvious that GUMP error would occur the same as Jakarta-Jetspeed and other projects experienced once. (Also, in my Japanese environment, it is garbled character) This means that we Japanese can not build codec. (Default codepage is different) ... Needless to say, I failed. Please change the "Ntilde" etc. to \u*** style. (just use "native2ascii" in your env) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On 11 Jun 2003 09:37:59 -0500 (Subject: Gump and Unicode) "Tim O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > commons-codec fails to compile in Gump because it contains an "Ntilde" > among other characters used in languages other than English. > > Any ideas? ----- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: James featured on IBM dev works
Please accept my sincere congratulations on this article. Your face beamed with delight, I think. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:46:12 +0100 (Subject: James featured on IBM dev works) "Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Claude Duguay has submited articles about James to IBM Developer works, he says.. > > Feature articles about James (by me ;-) published yesterday on IBM's > DeveloperWorks:: > > Feature entry point (click on the email image): > > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/ > > Direct links to articles: > > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-james1.html > > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-james2.html - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM dW: Digester + Lucene
Otis, I've put this on the jakarta top news (elsewhere). Thank you for this note. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:19:26 -0400 (Subject: IBM dW: Digester + Lucene) otisg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IBM developerWorks published an article featuring 2 Jakarta > projects: Commons Digester and Lucene. > > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-lucene/ > > Otis ----- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:48:33 -0400 (EDT) (Subject: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses) "Andrus Adamchik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [PROPOSAL] > > There maybe other exlanations for these things, but still it would be wise > to pull the archives out of the site. Of course there are people who would > want to search them for information (since browseable Jakarta archives are > well, should I say hard to use :-)), but those archives can be > transferred to gmane.org or something... > > Thoughts? Anyone else got hit by that (I remember someone posting > something similar long time ago). -0.5: Remain the archives on http://jakarta.apache.org/mail/ and do the robot.txt (or .htaccess) protect for the robot search engines. tar.gz archives are very useful for me. -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9
I'd been off for a while, so I've read this mail a little while ago. I'd like to do the volunteer. How/When can I do this? Should this be monthly? or bi-monthly? I'll prepare the 'Products List avaliable as of the end of ' soon. (similar to what I posted to this mailing list last month) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:28:59 +0100 (Subject: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. > once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: > > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 > > i was the guest editor for issue 8 and (if no one else steps up) i'd be > willing to edit issue 9. i seem to have a whole lot of things to do and > too little time to do them at the moment so i'd be very grateful if > someone else volunteered to edit issue 9. (i can supply instructions.) > anyone fancy the job? > > - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:29:23 +0100 (Subject: RE: Proposal: Jakarta should protect community email addresses) "BAZLEY, Sebastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would it be possible to mangle/remove the e-mail addresses before publishing > the postings? > This would eventually fix the mirrors. Technically, it might be possible. However, mangling e-mail addresses would turn out that the 'mangled' mbox archives are meaningless, IMO. (we can not import the UNIX mbox style text with such mangled e-mail addresses to the mail clients) > However, unless the mailing list software can also be persuaded to hide the > originators e-mail addresses (might be difficult?), it would not protect > against others who archive the raw content. > Might be worth trying a combination of approaches. For example: 1. Hide the raw text (current month only) which would be created automatically 2. Create gzip compressed files every 6 hours and put them into the mail archive directory (***/jakarta.apache.org/mail/), simultaneously delete the older ones... These above could be one of the approaching methods. (But I am not sure HOW TO accomplish this ... infrastructure@ matter??) These above are on the assumption that the spiders can not read the gzip compressed files. Am i right or wrong?? Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9
Robert, Okay, thanks. I'll prepare for these as soon as possible. I also have some ideas on this newsletter, however, I could not summarize the ideas... Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:34:36 +0100 (Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi Tetsuya > > do you still want the job? if so, it's yours! > > the first stage of the process is to think about some kind of editorial > deadline (in order to concentrate the minds of potential contributors). > you then need to tell everyone about it and persuade as many people as > possible to contribute. this probably needs to start ASAP. > > - robert > > On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 06:53 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > > > > I'd been off for a while, so I've read this mail a little while ago. > > > > I'd like to do the volunteer. How/When can I do this? > > Should this be monthly? or bi-monthly? > > > > I'll prepare the 'Products List avaliable as of the end of ' soon. > > (similar to what I posted to this mailing list last month) > > > > Sincerely, > > > > -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > > - > > > > On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:28:59 +0100 > > (Subject: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) > > robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta > >> newsletter. > >> once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: > >> > >> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 > >> > >> i was the guest editor for issue 8 and (if no one else steps up) i'd be > >> willing to edit issue 9. i seem to have a whole lot of things to do and > >> too little time to do them at the moment so i'd be very grateful if > >> someone else volunteered to edit issue 9. (i can supply instructions.) > >> anyone fancy the job? > >> > >> - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The vendors page
On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 15:58:37 -0400 (Subject: The vendors page) "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The original intent of the vendors.xml page was: > > 1. Because I got sick of hearing people say "Jakarta projects are not > supported" and wanted a page to send people to during presentations. > > 2. So a certain unnamed committer would not feel the need to spam > the lists (because I though if he got away with it, others would start > doing it and then I'd get lists full of consultancy spam). > > Now that Open Source is no longer a commercial cussword and I doubt > even an economic turnaround will kill the momentum, I think that the > policy for that page ought to be "just have one of the committers you > employ on the Jakarta projects you support make the change". Thus > tightening it from people who "support" Jakarta projects to people who > support Jakarta projects. > > Thoughts/Objections? I agree, but with qualifications. How about preparing new page for the companies/vendors which have no 'committer' in jakarta? Just devide into the vendors.html and vendorlist.html. And make vendors.html for the vendors which employ the committers and vendorlist.html for the vendors which do not employ the committers. I really want to prepare the vendorlist.html with the list of the regions (Asia, US, Europe, etc.). Apache-Jakarta is suffering the shortage of the Asian vendors' support. If there will be no 'another page' which can complement the vendors.html, I oppose to your opinions (especially the requirement for *committership*). Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAKARTA NEWSLETTER] News on Jakarta from May to June, 2003
Hello, All We are now preparing the 'Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9', news from May to June 2003, which would be published in the middle of July 2003. The 'Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9' will be appeared at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html and the editorial deadline would be 00:00 GMT, 6th July. We lowered the barrier to entry - users and developers will be able to easily contribute, as prepared the ApacheWiki (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi). If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 and fill in up what you want to append. If there's nothing news-worthy on the projects, then please just write *N/A*. If you have been voted in as a new committer in jakarta or jakarta-related projects within these 2 months, please add your name to the list on ApacheWiki. Probably, the former newsletter draft (Jakarta Newsletter Issue8) would give you some hints in writing the articles. cf. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue8March2003 If you have any questions about this, please send your messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. I wanna post these above to each projects' dev list sooner or later. ----- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9
Mark, The editorial deadline would be 00:00 GMT+, 6th July. Anticipating nice blurb on log4j :-) http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 20:22:06 -0700 (Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) "Mark Womack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a target date for completion? > > -Mark > - Original Message - > From: "robert burrell donkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:28 AM > Subject: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 > > > > it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. > > once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: > > > > > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 > > > > i was the guest editor for issue 8 and (if no one else steps up) i'd be > > willing to edit issue 9. i seem to have a whole lot of things to do and > > too little time to do them at the moment so i'd be very grateful if > > someone else volunteered to edit issue 9. (i can supply instructions.) > > anyone fancy the job? > > > > - robert - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ANNOUNCEMENT] *REMINDER* last call for may-june newsletter
This is a last call for additions for the may-june newsletter. There's still time to add articles about your favorite jakarta (and jakarta-related) products to the wiki page. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 The editorial deadline would be 00:00 GMT, 6th July. Personally, I think there are still rooms for - Jakarta Struts (Struts 1.1 FINAL released, etc.) - Jakarta Tapestry (moved up to Jakarta Top Project) - Jakarta Commons (Sandbox Components - e.g.HiveMind, etc.) - Jakarta BSF - Jakarta Cactus - Jakarta Taglibs - Jakarta Jetspeed (New Committer was voted, etc.) - Jakarta Poi - Apache Maven - Apache Avalon (New Committer was voted, etc.) - Apache DB/Torque etc. If you have a hesitation in writing the article using Apachewiki, please directly write it to this mailing list. I'll upload it and pick it up as an article in the next newsletter. Anticipating nice blurb :-) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. I posted to all the -dev lists, one or two mails which have "[JAKARTA NEWSLETTER DRAFT]" prefixed subject. You can write an article on that mail tree (thread) at each -dev lists. --------- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ANNOUNCEMENT] *REMINDER* last call for may-june newsletter
This is a last call for additions for the may-june newsletter. There's still time to add articles about your favorite jakarta (and jakarta-related) products to the wiki page. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 The editorial deadline would be 00:00 GMT, 6th July. Personally, I think there are still rooms for - Jakarta Struts (Struts 1.1 FINAL released, etc.) - Jakarta Tapestry (moved up to Jakarta Top Project) - Jakarta Commons (Sandbox Components - e.g.HiveMind, etc.) - Jakarta BSF - Jakarta Cactus - Jakarta Taglibs - Jakarta Jetspeed (New Committer was voted, etc.) - Jakarta Poi - Apache Maven - Apache Avalon (New Committer was voted, etc.) - Apache DB/Torque etc. If you have a hesitation in writing the article using Apachewiki, please directly write it to this mailing list. I'll upload it and pick it up as an article in the next newsletter. Anticipating nice blurb :-) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. I posted to all the -dev lists, one or two mails which have "[JAKARTA NEWSLETTER DRAFT]" prefixed subject. You can write an article on that mail tree (thread) at each -dev lists. --------- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [i18n] Internationalization subproject sponsor?
Hello, Robert, Personally, I am interested in this project, but I am not a *member* in ASF. (Just a *committer* in jakarta) How about posting your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?? (subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Maybe, you can find the ASF *member* outside of jakarta. Here's a list of the number of *committer* and *member* in ASF umbrella ( Originally created by Steven Noels) -- Amount of committers: 677 "Name","committers","members" "ant","34","8" "apr","42","32" "avalon","80","15" "cocoon","60","14" "commons","10","10" "db","35","9" "embperl","13","6" "httpd","145","111" "incubator","26","12" "jakarta","314","35" "james","13","3" "java","7","1" "maven","25","4" "mod_dtcl","9","4" "modperl","18","7" "tcl","9","4" "ws","86","11" "xml","259","28" -- There are only 35 potential "Mentor"s (I mean, sponsors) in jakarta, as you can see. If you are confident you can build a powerful community, IMHO you do not have to stick to seek the Mentor in jakarta. I hope this mail might help you to some extent. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On 3 Jul 2003 15:23:10 - (Subject: [i18n] Internationalization subproject sponsor?) Robert Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To current members of the Jakarta project: > > Is there any current member of the Jakarta project who would be interested in > sponsoring the entry of the Internationalization subproject into the > incubator? > > The Internationalization subproject would be somewhat different than the > other Jakarta projects in that there would be two types of contributors: > >1. the (traditional) code contributors >2. the language translation contributors > > So far, the reponses I have received regarding people would would be interested > in contributing have all been outside Jakarta - mostly language translators. > Since the Internationalization subproject would most likely fit into the > Jakarta project, it would help to have a sponsor from within Jakarta, per the > "Incubation Process" documentation. > > The subproject proposal and initial code contribution can be found earlier in > the Jakarta General mailing list, or here: > http://www.itoolset.com/i18n/PROPOSAL.html > > Without a sponsor, I will probably move the code that was extracted in > preparation for submission to Apache back into the iToolSet package hierarchy > and let it pass as an Apache contribution until there is more interest in a > common Internationalization architecture within Apache itself. > > Thanks in advance. > Robert Simpson > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [i18n] Internationalization subproject sponsor?
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 08:14:06 -0400 (Subject: Re: [i18n] Internationalization subproject sponsor?) Robert Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am surprised there isn't more interest in a common internationalization > framework within Jakarta. But then I have been assuming that there > are non-English-speaking "members" in Jakarta, not just "committers" > and other users of the code. When the proposal was first submitted > to the list, there seemed to be some initial interest - I even got > some suggestions for improving the code and incorporated those into > later revisions. But if there isn't much interest at this point, I > fear it will be difficult to get it into Jakarta at a later time. 1. There are many many non-English-speaking "members" as well as "committers" in jakarta. However, unfortunately non-Latin1-speaking "members" are a few. This means that they can not easily understand many hardships which people in multi-byte area *must* undergo. 2. Given that some of the members/committers in jakarta got aware the importance of the internationalization, I think they pretty do not know how to deal with it properly. (In short, they can not *test* easily in their environment) 3. In jakarta/apache, there are some projects using so called "Resource Bundle". (AFAIK: jakarta-jetspeed, maven and jakarta-struts, etc.) 4. Personally, I think it might be a nice idea to create i18n subproject and make *soft link* to each subprojects' directory/ resource bundles. In this way, we do not have to download all the subprojects' (e.g. apache-maven) modules and can contribute to the translation materials. (just download the i18n module and contribute to it) 5. The i18n subproject described above can also attract many contributors who are interested in the internationalization issues in general. The effort of the i18n proj can influence all the Apache related products. Maybe it can be a nice *community* which focuses on the internationalization issues related to the opensource communities. It would be very sad if the *know-hows*/*knowledge database* for the i18n/l10n issue will not be gathered in one appropriate place in apache/jakarta. The i18n subproject might be able to become a *symbol* of the ASF's i18n, and this gives a good *SIGN* that ASF is welcoming all sorts of the users' communities all over the world. I think it would be very nice if any committers in a specific subproject can easily ask to the community concerning with i18n issue, "I am lacking the know-hows on the i18n/l10n issue. Are there anyone who can support me/us here??". 6. Personally, I do not think the i18n issue is not only related to java but also to all the *language*s. So, I suggested, "you do not have to adhere to jakarta, IMHO". 6'. I think apache-httpd project had a great success in the i18n/l10n issue, so their knowledge might help you a lot. > BTW, thanks for sending the test "properties" file in Japanese. I > did incorporate that into the code, but just on my side so far. Okay. if you had any troubles with this, please let me know. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [i18n] Internationalization subproject sponsor?
> 6. Personally, I do not think the i18n issue is not only related to java > but also to all the *language*s. So, I suggested, "you do not have > to adhere to jakarta, IMHO". I do not think -> I do think :-) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 is now available online
Here comes: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html Thanks to all the contributors!! Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [i18n] Internationalization subproject sponsor?
Andy, 1: Do you know the existence of http://httpd.apache.org/docs-project/ ? Is this outside of ASF? Doesn't this project have a concrete goal? 2: I did not mention any kind of "people sit around tables and make speeches"... it might be better to go to party@ or wherever... 3: Sure I mentioned "soft link" (symbolic link might be preferable), but it is not related to "soft" project. It's like uh ... jakarta-site module and jakarta-site2 module... what Andy taught me just a month ago. 4: IMHO: If the original proposal from Robert are missing in some points, it might be a good *task* for the committers/members to adjust/mold it to suit it to the whole benefits of the ASF. Internationalization (in various meanings) brings the prosperity to the ASF more and more, I am sure. APPENDIX: These kind of *gathering all the knowledge/translations from all over the world* bring immediate results to the logging packages/ portals etc., needless to say. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:35:12 -0400 (Subject: Re: [i18n] Internationalization subproject sponsor?) "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Okay. if you had any troubles with this, please let me know. > I'd be against any project without concrete goals. "soft" projects > are best outside of apache in some kind of organization who has > meetings where people sit around tables and make speeches... The goal > should reflect some kind of strong concrete goal. - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Newslettter] Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003
Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 == Date: May-June 2003 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html It's been another good year at the JavaWorld Tools Awards [1] for Apache. Xerces2 Java Parser 2.4 from the Apache XML Project won the Best Java-XML Tool award and Apache Ant 1.5 developed by the Apache Ant Project won the Most Useful Java Community-Developed Technology. Good work! W3C has issued SOAP 1.2 as a recommendation. This means that the SOAP 1.2 specification is now (effectively) a web standard. Apache software related to SOAP can be found in the Web Services and XML projects. The press release is now available online [3]. This newsletter is the second wiki-built newsletter. See the http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts for more details. Also, I sent the announcements to all the developers' list in jakarta. It was a bit annoying I suppose, however, this newsletter contains a lot of news from various projects, including Jakarta Related Projects. Note: Apache Ant, Avalon, James, Maven, Incubator, DB (OJB/TORQUE) are not subprojects under Apache Jakarta any longer, however, we really appreciate to hear the news from the Jakarta Related Projects. I strongly hope/believe this "newsletter" would be able to become one of the *liaison* for the various projects in ASF. I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list [4], if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with [NEWSLETTER] prefixed subject. [1] - http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-06-2003/jw-0609-eca.html [2] - http://xml.apache.org/xerces2-j/index.html [3] - http://www.w3.org/2003/06/soap12-pressrelease [4] - http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html Editor: Tetsuya Kitahata Special Thanks: Robert Burrel Donkin Contents Jakarta General Jakarta Commons General Jakarta Commons EL Jakarta Commons FileUpload Jakarta Commons DBCP Jakarta Commons HttpClient Jakarta Commons Lang Jakarta Commons Math Jakarta Jetspeed Jakarta JMeter Jakarta Log4j Jakarta Lucene Jakarta Poi Jakarta Struts Jakarta Tapestry Jakarta Tomcat Jakarta Turbine Jakarta Velocity Apache Ant Project Apache Avalon Fortress Apache DB OJB Apache Httpd WebServer Project Apache James Project New Committers Products avaliable as of the end of June, 2003 -- Jakarta General === " Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project " Editor: Tetsuya Kitahata Discussions on general mailing list have been fairly light-weight these 2 months. The Main page of the Jakarta Site has been updated in order to arrange the "Jakarta-Related" projects properly. Now, Jakarta website has renewed to become one of the most powerful "Java-Portal" sites. The JavaOne Conference was held in June, and there seemed many atendees from jakarta participants. As Sun Microsystems set up the http://java.net/ site, there was alot of talk surrounding this issue. Jakarta Tapestry, which had been longed to become a Top Project in Jakarta, finally joined in the Jakarta Umbrella in May. The first proposal was made at General Mailing List in October last year by Howard M. Lewis Ship, so it took about a half year. We look forward to the Tapestry Team playing a more active part in Jakarta. -- Jakarta Commons General === " creating and maintaining reusable Java components " Editor: Robert Burrel Donkin, Tetsuya Kitahata An OnJava Article [1] covering the components in Jakarta Commons [2] has been published. If you've ever wondered about what's all these components do, this is a good place to start. Due to the diverse nature of the commons group, this section has been split up to make it easier to pick out the topics of interest. These months' stories come from the following: [1] - http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2003/06/25/commons.html [2] - http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/ Jakarta Commons EL == Editor: Robert Burrel Donkin The Commons Team is pleased to announce the 1.0 release of commons-EL. EL is the JSP 2.0 Expression Language Interpreter from Apache For more information see the EL component home page [1]. [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/el.html Jakarta Commons FileUpload == Editor: Robert Burrel Donkin The Commons Team is p
Re: Changes in JavaCC task
Hi Dariusz, I am very sad to say, but ... your e-mail was not posted to an appropriate mailing list. Please go to http://ant.apache.org/mail.html and subscribe to the (Ant) Developer List. Then, you can post your code to the Developer List with [PATCH] prefixed subject. Otherwise, you can post your code to "BUGZILLA" http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=Ant Hope things go well. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:34:20 +0200 (Subject: Changes in JavaCC task) Dariusz Tyszka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > In order to be able use the JavaCC 3.0. I have modified code of JavaCC > task. I have attached modified code to this mail. > > -- > Regards. > Dariusz Tyszka > > > For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and > wrong. > (H. L. Mencken) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Newslettter] Readers' Voice (was Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003)
Hello, http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue10 Please feel free to write the comments on the last (jakarta) newsletter / jakarta newsletter issue 9 ... (@ "Readers' Voice" Section) ... even if "the Jakarta Newsletter" will be outgrown to become "the Apache Newsletter", your opinions/voices might be a help for it in either case. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [i18n] Internationalization subproject
ady anwered WRT code. > > > > I was thinking mostly about having a "pool" of people who can translate > > and are more or less "cross project". For instance, I can translate > > English to Spanish, and I'm a committer in Jetspeed, but I could also > > translate, say, parts of the tomcat documents that I'm reading, or some > > XML stuff I'm interested into. Or even docs for Apache modules. > > > > The good part is that it would help the whole community, both WRT > > translation efforts and WRT crosspollination, as these kind of people > > will "see" beyond their small project(s). Also, it oculd bring new kinds > > of developers (Today I heard in the radio, coming home, that 72% od > > people in Spain cannot speak *any* foreign language. We are a bad sample > > but in most of Europe, less than 50% people speaks English.) > > > > The problem is that I can't see clearly how to implement such a > > crosscutting service/project, in ways that would not be difficult to > > impossible to manage. Specially since we should keep source control on > > both the original doc and the translations in sync. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Regards > > -- > > Santiago Gala > > High Sierra Technology, S.L. (http://hisitech.com) > > http://memojo.com?page=SantiagoGalaBlog > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Newslettter] Readers' Voice (was Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003)
Andy, Quite. Make sense. Using a metaphor of the non-electronic newspaper, "a paper with a national circulation" and "a local-news section" .. right? Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:36:06 -0400 (Subject: Re: [Newslettter] Readers' Voice (was Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003)) "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure an Apache wide newsletter is a bad idea, but I'd prefer a > subdivision as if every project provides as detailed of information, it is > unlikely that I'll read it. > > I'd like to say I "care" what is going on in the PHP community, for > instance, but since I never use PHP and it rarely effects me, I only "care" > dutifully and not naturally. Thus eventually I'll stop reading it because > I'll "get to it later"...and then "later" and then...never. > > -andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting Problem in updating WAR file
Hi,
I am very *very* sad to say, but ... your e-mail was not posted to
an appropriate mailing list, it seems.
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and subscribe to the (Ant) User List.
Then, you can post your questions to the mailing list.
Hope things go well.
Sincerely,
-- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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(Subject: Getting Problem in updating WAR file)
bas perumal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>For Each version, I have to update the WAR file with cab files. So I used loop,
> for each version the loop will call the target where i am updating the WAR file. the
> problem is , first time (first version) i am able to update the WAR file with the
> cab files but for the other versions the control is coming into the target but it is
> not updating the WAR file. Please help me on this. This is my target where i am
> updating the war file(build.cds.war.corp)
>
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> includes="crystal/${config.crystal.corp.version}/sys/*.cab"/>
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>
> Thanks,
> bas
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[CONCLUSION] Apache Newsletter
All, Seems that the vote (to be precise, proposal) has been passed without a dissenting voice. "The ayes have it !" So, I will prepare for the Apache Newsletter from now on. (ApacheWiki, etc.) http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts and http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1 Apache Newsletter will be appeared at http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ If you have question on this, please do not hesitate to ask me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Cross-Posted to Jakarta-General, WS-General and XML-General. To WS and XML folks: please see the jakarta-newsletter example seen at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html We will prepare the Apache Software Foundation Wide Newsletter. I will announce to you at all the developer list when I need help for the articles. Please please help me when the time has come. -- My Original Intention -- There are so many projects in the ASF, and it might be very hard for all the users/developers to catch up whole things what is happening to the Apache activities. The aim of the newsletter is to try and let people know what's been going on in the projects in the ASF when they have been unable to monitor all of them themselves. The editorship of the various sections and overall will probably vary which should hopefully lead to a fairly dynamic newsletter. There are many people who are *passive* as well as *active*. People in the tendency of passive will not actively see the website maybe, however, e-mail might be able to stir up the *awareness*/*imagination* for something. I hope/believe that these kind of *awareness* will come to fruition of the *cross-pollination* and *breakthrough* in technology as well as in community's growth (ASF-wide community's growth). Of course, I want to prepare the web version for the newsletter: there are many people who love e-mails as well as web pages. I am glad that this "Apache Newsletter" will be published as a result of the outgrowth of "Jakarta Newsletter" and the newsletter can cover all the projects including infrastructure, incubator et ce tra. Thanks to the all the contributors to the previous jakarta newsletter and the precursors, Rob Oxsprings and Robert Burrel Donkin's great work. We lowered the barrier to entry - users and developers will be able to easily contribute, as prepared the ApacheWiki. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1 and fill up what you want to append. Anticipating nice blurb and news for the projects which you are interested in!! Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. There is still a room for the discussion about the 'frequency' and 'place to post', however, I want to do the "experimentation" for a while. (not so long) I think "experimentation" might conform to the "A Patchy" spirits ;-) - On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:33:14 -0500 (Subject: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]) Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 7/11/03 6:07 AM Thom May wrote: > > > Why the obsession with email? > > push vs. pull > > example: we are having this conversation and the information I'm sending > its pushed into your mailbox. I could post this information on a weblog > and then point you to it, but, in my experience, the chance that you > will read it is much lower. > > another reason is asynchronicity. if I push it in your mailboxes, you > carry it with you. maybe on a train, as it was already noted. Sure, you > can download stuff from the web and carry it with you but it *requires* > effort from your part. Again, the chance that you will do it is much lower. > > This is what I would like to see: > > 1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used > in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including > infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the > non-so-project stuff. > > 2) the newsletter is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date] > > What do you think? > > -- > Stefano. - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache != HTTPD
Privet! On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:01:57 -0400 (Subject: RE: Apache != HTTPD (was Issues with XMLBeans proposal)) "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What if some one/a group of people were to form a watchdog group > > > that would bring to the attention of [that] they should infact > > > use 'Apache HTTPD' instead of just 'Apache'. > > > If you want to raise awareness of such an "Apache wide" fact, don't > > do it in a "java only" place like Jakarta. > > An Apache Software Foundation newsletter, as an outgrowth from the great > work on the Jakarta newsletter, would provide an overall picture of the > scope of the ASF's projects, and should help to naturally dispel the Apache > == Apache HTTPD image. "The Apache Newsletter" will be published from next month, and sure the image * Apache == Apache HTTPD * will gradually diminish. At the same time, IMHO, HTTPD members are better to take it into consideration when they publish the [announcement] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw "[ANNOUNCE][SECURITY] Apache 2.0.47 released" titled mail from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... this is not good, because I had to edit the article to make a change at site/elsewhere.html :D Da Svidanya. -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The vendors page
Ah... what's going on with this below finally?? Discussions have gone away in a dense fog?? Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:58:06 +0100 (Subject: Re: The vendors page) robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW i think that the original arguments which lead to the creation of the > vendors page are still relevant. it's very hard for any folks here to > judge the merit (or otherwise) of companies providing support. on the > other hand, there was a definite demand from users and vendors for a > dating service. > > the original rule seemed to be a good one (a minimal test which some > vendors have failed) as well having the merit of simplicity. on the other > hand i do think that andrew's arguments have served a useful purpose in > making us think harder about the purpose of that page. i also agree with > alex in that probably the future direction is to something more > apache-wide. > > on the other hand, i think that michael's answers have been reasonable and > give him at least as much a reason as many of the existing vendors. unless > i hear some good reasons not to, i'll probably commit something along > those lines sometime soonish. i might also try to think of some ways to > reorganize the page. > > - robert > > On Thursday, July 3, 2003, at 10:08 AM, Alex McLintock wrote: > > > At 09:51 02/07/03 -0400, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > >> I'm tending towards the argument that if you can convince someone who > >> has the right access to update > >> the vendors.xml > >> page, then you deserve to be on the list. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > Yep - so basically this should be decided on a subproject-level in > >> > Jakarta's case. I doubt *anyone* is able to support *all* Jakarta > >> > subprojects on a level that he/she serves his customers well. > >> > Suggestion: move this page away from the Jakarta main site, and > >> > stimulate subprojects to host their own vendor pages. > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ > > > > > > I'm not sure of the point of a Vendors page. There are so many different > > types of "vendors" covering so many projects that a single page - or even > > a single XML is not necessarily the right thing. > > > > I started a database of companies who support open source software but I > > am not sure it is the right as it is. > > > > I think Apache has grown large enough to need a database of trainers, > > consultants, developers, vendors, and other support companies who will > > provide assistence with using Apache software. > > > > We had a small mailing list for discussing these sorts of commercial > > aspects to using Apache software but it never really got off the ground. > > > > Alex McLintock - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [부재중메일][ANNOUNCEMENT] Velocity Tools 1.0 released
$)C Hi, Nylons. (>H3gGO< or somewhere. I am *very* sad to say, but .. your ":[EMAIL PROTECTED]@O" (absence notice mail) came to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Maybe, just you are offering mail-translation service from English to Korean to the Korean people and some of the recipients of the translation service blocked the mails. Please take these above into consideration and thank you for your cooperation. Hope things go well. Sincerely, (>H3gHw 0h< This mail address is obsolete! > > _ > GQ9L8# [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( http://mail.hanmir.com/ ) > ?l8.3"8. EkGO4B [EMAIL PROTECTED] >FAvF. GQ9L8# ( http://www.hanmir.com/ ) ----- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Professional Apache Discussion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?? Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- AIM# tkitahata - On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:04:31 +0100 (Subject: Professional Apache Discussion) Alex McLintock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any discussion going on of being professional Apache consultants? > This sort of commercial discussion seems to be disliked on most software > related mailing lists. > > Nicola Ken Barozzi (sp?) started up a list for this but it seems to be > silent now. > > > Alex - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.apache.org/foundation/projects.html
http://www.apache.org/foundation/projects.html ... Jakarta = Server-side Java I did not know that Jakarta-Poi is server-side java based product :D -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. Rather, "Java based total solution in Apache.Org" or "Jakarta is an umbrella for Java related Apache integration efforts" might be preferable. Any thoughts? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: http://www.apache.org/foundation/projects.html
Then why does Poi reside in the "Libraries, Tools, and APIs " category? Might I perform surgery on the index.xml/index.html? :D Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- AIM# tkitahata - On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 20:55:18 -0400 (Subject: Re: http://www.apache.org/foundation/projects.html) "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > POI is absolutely server side. It has some uses on the client but the whole > design is aimed at the servlet stream. Otherwise it would be based on > java.io.File > > -andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP WANTED or The merge is on! HSSF- now with improved performance for your pleasure!
Andrew, All (Jakarta-General) On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:04:24 -0400 (Subject: HELP WANTED or The merge is on! HSSF- now with improved performance for your pleasure!) "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 5. Tetsuya had some ideas that he sent me but I've never had a chance to > look at (yet) and I'm hoping he'll pipe up on the list now that he's more > comfortable and discuss him with everyone and I can digest them more from > the conversation. He's shy but I'm trying to bring him out ;-) Wow... This month, I am planning to master the Apache James more, and will be busy preparing for the *NEW* wonderful job -- Apache NewsLetter :-) I am planning to devote to Poi more in the next month. -- All, please feel free to participate to jakarta-poi developer mailing list and discuss. And, sorry for the annoyance... (We need the *new blood*s ... and hope poi will be sublimated to the *fileformats* TLP umbrella project ... not only MS-EXCEL, Word format also TNEF, PDF, GZIP, ZIP, IMAGES, OLE2CDF'd, Lotus, etc...) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- AIM# tkitahata - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Professional Apache Discussion
Alex, Forgotten to tell. How about this? http://apache-server.com/opportunities.html Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- AIM# tkitahata - On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:04:31 +0100 (Subject: Professional Apache Discussion) Alex McLintock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any discussion going on of being professional Apache consultants? > This sort of commercial discussion seems to be disliked on most software > related mailing lists. > > Nicola Ken Barozzi (sp?) started up a list for this but it seems to be > silent now. > > > Alex - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail2.html -> mail.html
Hi all, I am wondering how it might be if deleting jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html and putting all the contents to jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html All the Apache TLPs (Top Level Projects) do not separate the mail list explanation pages like jakarta, AFAICS. cf. http://ant.apache.org/mail.html http://httpd.apache.org/lists.html I think that each subprojects can indicate the direct/appropriate subscribe/unscribe section from each subprojects' pages. (Now: e.g. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#tomcat future: e.g. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html#tomcat) Any thoughts? -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail2.html -> mail.html
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 06:21:13 -0400 "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think that each subprojects can indicate the direct/appropriate > > subscribe/unscribe section from each subprojects' pages. > > (Now: e.g. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#tomcat > > future: e.g. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html#tomcat) > > > > Any thoughts? > > I think the motivation is to force people to read the first page before > they get to the second. Yes, I think so. However, there are many many mailing list in mail2.html and we did not point out the *appropriate* mail list in the past, it seems. (We often use this phrase, "subscribe to the *appropriate* lists" ... not user-friendly phrase...) Promoting to point out directly the *appropriate* mail lists (e.g. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#tomcat or http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html#tomcat) might be better than now, I think. If httpd, ant or whatever in apache.org had failed to let people read the MailList *guideline*, I am willing to withdraw my proposal. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail2.html -> mail.html
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 11:33:20 -0400 "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe the idea is to make people read the rules first, I wouldn't > > advise > > changing it unless you have a good reason to, if it ain't broke don't > > fix > > it. > Yes, that's what i was trying to hint at :) I know this and the purpose. Alternatively, e.g.-site/mail.html GUIDELINE(#guideline) (brief description) . Tomcat User List SubscribeUnsubscribe ArchiveGuideline(jump to #guideline) Dev List SubscribeUnsubscribe ArchiveGuideline .. This might be enough, I think. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail2.html -> mail.html
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 11:57:10 -0400 (Subject: Re: mail2.html -> mail.html) "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The nice thing about the current approach is that you can't get to see > the links w/o having to have read enough of the first page to > understand that you have to click through to the next page. > > Otherwise, people will just skip down until they find what they want > and then have missed what is some good prelim info for our community. > It's not much of a burden on people, as once you've done it, you just > know to skip to bottom and go to the mail for new lists... > > geir No, my original intention was derived from just this simple question: "Why doesn't each subprojects' left-side navi point to the *appropriate* section in mail2.html?" For example, if Jakarta-Poi's website have the direct link (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi) in its' left side navigator, people will not wander the mail.html/mail2.html and be satisfied surely. Next, in this situation, I thought the current mail.html is meaningless, so why not conjoin mail.html and mail2.html? (Also, please see the sample below) For me, subscribe/unsubscribe is very easy, because I remember *-subscribe*/*-unsubscribe* suffix :D However, there are many people who can not find the way to unsubscribe each mailing lists :D, even though each mails has *appripriate* mail trailer (signature). Things might be better to become simpler. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > On Sunday, July 20, 2003, at 11:48 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 11:33:20 -0400 > > "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>> I believe the idea is to make people read the rules first, I wouldn't > >>> advise > >>> changing it unless you have a good reason to, if it ain't broke don't > >>> fix > >>> it. > >> Yes, that's what i was trying to hint at :) > > > > I know this and the purpose. > > > > Alternatively, > > > > e.g.-site/mail.html > > GUIDELINE(#guideline) > > > > (brief description) > > . > > Tomcat > > User List > > SubscribeUnsubscribe ArchiveGuideline(jump to > > #guideline) > > Dev List > > SubscribeUnsubscribe ArchiveGuideline > > .. > > > > > > This might be enough, I think. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail2.html -> mail.html
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 18:48:16 +0100 (Subject: Re: mail2.html -> mail.html) Michael Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > >No, my original intention was derived from just this simple question: > >"Why doesn't each subprojects' left-side navi point to the *appropriate* > >section in mail2.html?" > I was dead against this when Tetsuya first raised the issue, but I think > I am coming round to Tetsuya's way of thinking. Perhaps ezmlm could be > changed so that the confirm subscription and welcome email messages > start with some text similar to that used on the mail.html page. > Additionally, the -dev lists could warn that -user should be used for > questions including developer questions, where appropriate. Some Apache > lists already do one or both of these, but many don't do either. Thank you. I think so. If possible, additional mail trailer (footer) might be preferable. These below are *sample* of the mail (message) trailers. Any comments, improvements are welcomed :D e.g. Jakarta-General - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Apache Jakarta Website http://jakarta.apache.org/ e.g. Jakarta-Tomcat-Dev - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List Guidelines :http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html e.g. Jakarta-Tomcat-User - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jakarta Tomcat Website http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/ > In any case, I don't think we can protect ourselves completely from > fools ;) Ditto :D -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail2.html -> mail.html
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:02:57 +0100 "Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was dead against this when Tetsuya first raised the issue, > I'm still dead against this, and likely to remain so until someone > can explain to me why it would be better than what we currently have. 1. Current pages are user-*un*friendly: My proposal is user-friendly: *user* means "future developer", who might devote to the jakarta activities and the ASF activities in the future. I can not find any good reasons to keep current pages unchanged, in other words. 2. Please see Andrew and Henri's comments. These implied the *reason* what you wanted, I think. > What we have is (as far as I'm aware) the result of responding to the > actions of people in respect of the mailing lists, and intended to reduce > the amount of brain-dead misuse. I'd worrry that changing it would > re-introduce problems. I am not sure whether all the subscribers have read the guideline completely and have respect to mailing lists. If they are wise enough and given that people had read mail.html page, http://jakarta.apache.org/site/micromail.html would not have dead linked pages * at all*, I think. (This page is now linked by site/mail.html, as you all can see. And .. sorry I do not use any mail clients/ servers created by MS, so I won't/can't apply any changes to this page) Also, I am not sure whether it would re-introduce problems. Aren't there any alternative method which fulfill these two? : 1. Keep User-Friendli-ness 2. Avoid Trouble I suggested various approaching methods in the past. Probably, there might be much *better* way. > If there is an issue with lists being hard to find, or instructions > unclear lets hear it. *chicken* and *egg*. Who felt hardness to find *appropriate list* won't come to this list and can not comment to your line. You'll not be able to hear their voices. Also, it takes at least 10-30 seconds to find the *appropriate* lists out even though using *Ctrl+F* at current site/mail2.html. What would happen after directly, simply indicating the *appropriate* lists??? (again) e.g. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#general -- I think the policy of Apache (Jakarta) might have had "A Patchy" spirits, providing experimental space for all the people. There are no reason for letting the beginners feel unease, enforce them to wander off and get lost in the jakarta desert. Why not adopting "Easy to entry: Learn more here" approaching method?? I am trying to reduce the user-*un*friendli-ness from jakarta gradually... Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail2.html -> mail.html
Thank you for the comment, Robert. TO tell the truth, my original motivation to arise this issue was concering to the upcoming newsletter. I published the final "Jakarta Newsletter" in early this month and I found I made some mistakes. Also, there was something which I got aware: <<1>> I've forgot to append the URL of Apache Ant. There might be someone who came to jakarta-general, not knowing that Ant had been separated and have own mailng lists. <<2>> I wrote: 'If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list [4], [4] - http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html' However, at the same time I felt guilty about this .. thinking "Oh, how user unfriendly I am!" <<3>> I have felt the mail trailer (can be seen at the bottom of each mails) can be improved in the future. I was getting too nervous on the next Newsletter (ASF-wide) and thought "before it is too late"... -- Anyway, I will perform the improvements gradually... There seem many rooms for improvements even in the current site/mail2.html. Thank you all who participated in this issue for the comments! Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:17:40 +0100 (Subject: Re: mail2.html -> mail.html) robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > jakarta came round to having two pages for mail subscriptions after > having years of regular problems with people joining the lists who > had no idea about how to behave. the pages are user unfriendly but > the old solution (ie publically and vocally humiliating posters on > list) was worse (since it discouraged many lurkers with valuable > opinions from speaking out for fear of being shot down in flames). > > i don't think that reading through a page of instructions is too much > to ask for the benefit of the community not having to waste time and > energy shooting down ignorant and disruptive posters. one proof that > this policy works is that the last occasion that i can remember this > being necessary was with somebody who'd subscribed via news. > > i would support a move of the other information on the deeper page > (about the archives, for example) to a better location. i'd also be > happy to support some alternative system (maybe using ezmlm) which > was equally effective. i'd also support any sub-project who was happy > about being listed on the front page being moved there. > > - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: move user lists to mail.html from mail2.html?
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:49:37 +0100 robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i've been thinking about this and i think that maybe there's a way to > change the pages that will improving things for users whilst still > preventing problems with people not reading the rules. this is really only > a major problem for developer lists. > maybe we could try moving the user lists to the bottom of the first page > and then leave the link to the developer lists on the second page. maybe > the extra space could be used to add some links that of interest for > potential contributors. I made many changes to mail.html and mail2.html the other day. Now, each subprojects can point out http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#(projectname/acronym) directly. I do not think separating the intro page of userlist from that of devlist is a good idea (sorry). I am afraid it might cause confusions to the users/developers. Rather, I would like to prompt each projects to 1. change left-side navi of each projects 2. change message trailer (footer of each mails) #1: please see the sample of this: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ #2: The Apache Jakarta POI Project will use these message trailers below, ((Jakarta POI-dev list)) =(CUT HERE)== - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List:http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta POI Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ =(E N D)=== ((Jakarta Poi-user list)) =(CUT HERE)== - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing List: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#poi The Apache Jakarta Poi Project: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ =(E N D)=== -- I think these above are enough. -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Apache Newsletter Draft] News on Jakarta in July, 2003
Hello, All (Jakarta-General Mailing List Subscribers) I am now preparing the 'The Apache Newsletter Issue 1', the first ASF-wide-newsletter of July 2003, which will be published in the middle of August 2003. -- http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ -- This "Apache Newsletter" will be published as a result of the outgrowth of the previous "Jakarta Newsletter" and "Apache Newsletter" can now cover all the projects under apache.org including infrastructure, incubator, xml, webservice, et cetra. 'The Apache Newsletter Issue 1' will be appeared at http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200307.html and the editorial deadline will be 00:00 GMT, 9th August. ApacheWiki (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi) had been already set up. If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1 and fill up what you want to append in. If there's nothing news-worthy on your sub/projects, then please write something you *hope* (e.g. XX project will release FINAL version of XX product in the middle of August, etc etc). If you have been voted in warmly as a new committer in ASF the last month (July) please add your name to the list on ApacheWiki. If your project really want some "ADVERTISEMENT" (to recruit new comers, etc etc), please write nice and catchy blurb at the "advertisement" section so that it will attract the readers' attentions. Probably, the former newsletter final draft and newsletter itself (Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) will give you some hints in writing the articles. cf. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html If you have any questions about this, please send your messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This Newsletter will be published as webpage and be announced at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the ASF-wide announcement list) To subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please follow this instruction: http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce Hope to hear from many jakarta subprojects!! (If you feel hesitation in writing articles on ApacheWiki, please write your memo in this "Jakarta General" mailing list or give me a note). http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1 Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. Also, your voice at "Readers' Voice" section will be highly appreciated. Contributions from readers are cordially invited !! - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Apache Newsletter Draft] News on Jakarta in July, 2003
Oh, really? ... should we rename it to "Apatchy
Newsletter" or something? :-)
...
Anyway, the formal newsletter's name will be "The Apache Newsletter".
("The"-prefixed, capitalized).
I do not want to recall you the issue of "Apache != HTTPD", however,
this newsletter will be able to reduce such kind of *misunderstanding*
gradually, i hope.
Anticipating catchy blurbs/articles :D >> all
-- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
--
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 07:59:20 -0400 (EDT)
(Subject: Re: [Apache Newsletter Draft] News on Jakarta in July, 2003)
Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Just thought I'd point out that the Apache Newsletter is sharing namespace
> with http://www.apacheweek.com/. I've no idea what that's relationship is
> to ASF. I've been getting it for years and only just realised that it's
> not from apache.org.
>
> So you might have some confused readers.
>
> Hen
>
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello, All (Jakarta-General Mailing List Subscribers)
> >
> >
> >
> > I am now preparing the 'The Apache Newsletter Issue 1',
> > the first ASF-wide-newsletter of July 2003, which will be published
> > in the middle of August 2003.
> > -- http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ --
> >
> > This "Apache Newsletter" will be published as a result of the outgrowth
> > of the previous "Jakarta Newsletter" and "Apache Newsletter" can now
> > cover all the projects under apache.org including infrastructure,
> > incubator, xml, webservice, et cetra.
> >
> > 'The Apache Newsletter Issue 1' will be appeared at
> > http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200307.html
> > and the editorial deadline will be 00:00 GMT, 9th August.
> >
> > ApacheWiki (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi) had
> > been already set up.
> > If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1
> > and fill up what you want to append in.
> > If there's nothing news-worthy on your sub/projects, then please write
> > something you *hope* (e.g. XX project will release FINAL version of
> > XX product in the middle of August, etc etc).
> >
> > If you have been voted in warmly as a new committer in ASF the
> > last month (July) please add your name to the list on ApacheWiki.
> >
> > If your project really want some "ADVERTISEMENT" (to recruit
> > new comers, etc etc), please write nice and catchy blurb at the
> > "advertisement" section so that it will attract the readers'
> > attentions.
> >
> > Probably, the former newsletter final draft and newsletter itself
> > (Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9)
> > will give you some hints in writing the articles.
> > cf.
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9
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*REMINDER* last call for july newsletter
This is a last call for additions for the july newsletter. (The Apache Newsletter -- Issue 1 -- http://www.apache.org/newsletter/) There's still time to add articles about your favorite jakarta (and jakarta-related) products to the wiki page. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1 The editorial deadline will be 00:00 (PDT), 9th August. # 07:00 GMT, 9th August If you have a hesitation in writing the article using Apachewiki, please directly write it and let me know. I'll upload it and pick it up as an article in the next newsletter. Anticipating nice blurb :-) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Invitation to participate in Apache J2EE efforts
By the way, why didn't you post this news to [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are many people who subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I think it would be nessesary in order to make this news effectual to J2EE-minded folks to announce this news at [EMAIL PROTECTED], too. -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 08:58:25 -0700 (Subject: Invitation to participate in Apache J2EE efforts) Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As you may have heard by now, the Apache Software Foundation has initiated a > project to develop an open source, Apache-licensed implementation of the > J2EE specification. In addition, the project is committed to certifying the > implementation as J2EE compliant. This is an ambitious goal and will present > a formidable challenge for the people involved, given the wide range of > technologies covered by the specification. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mbox archives are *all* available online!
Hi all, http://jakarta.apache.org/mail/ All the mbox archives of jakarta subprojects are now available online! Yay! Also, the eyebrowse (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/) has been set up for the many jakarta subprojects. Have a nice networking! ;-) -- Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. eyebrowse still contains many garbled characters for me .. :-( - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mbox archives are *all* available online!
(BHello, (B (BI am not sure about the Eyebrowse. (B (BOne thing I can say is ... we are now introducing spam filter (Bfor all the jakarta subprojects' mailing lists. I am sure (Bthis can reduce many burdens of the remote moderators of (Beach mailing lists. (Please let me know if there are *remarkable* (Beffectiveness of the spam filter >> each moderators) (B (BHave a nice networking! :D (B (B-- (B (BOn Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:35:48 +0200 (B(Subject: Re: mbox archives are *all* available online!) (BOrtwin Gl|ck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (B (B> Hi (B> (B> Can we have obfuscated email addresses in Eyebrowse to prevent (B> harversting by SPAMmers ? (B> (B> Thanks (B> (B> Ortwin Gl|ck, Commons HTTP Client (B> (B> Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: (B> > Also, the eyebrowse (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/) (B> > has been set up for the many jakarta subprojects. (B (B (B (B-- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (B (B (B- (BTo unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BFor additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ANN] The Apache Newsletter Issue #1 Released
The Apache Newsletter Issue #1 Released Thanks to all the contributors/editors of the newsletter, the first "The Apache Newsletter" (Issue #1) has arrived at last. http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200307.html "The Apache Newsletter" could be published as a result of the outgrowth of "Jakarta Newsletter" and the newsletter can cover all the projects including infrastructure, incubator et cetera. You can read it through http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200307.html http://www.apache.org/newsletter/index.html and if you are the subscriber of the "Apache Announcement List" (http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce), the e-mail version will be arrived at this mailing list in several hours. Today, 15th August 2003, is the 58th anniversary of the end of the Pacific War (and World War II) and I am very glad to publish this newsletter in this moment. The internet and the wave of internationalization gradually reduced the boundaries of each countries, as well, this newsletter will be one of the *glue* of the communities in the ASF umbrella, beyond the artificial boundaries of technical languages etc. Hope this can gradually lead the good course of the ASF, avoiding the balkanization of each projects and keep the hand tightly with various projects. I want to thank to those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate mailing lists [1]. if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to ApacheWiki [2] or mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] - http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html [2] - http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue2 -- "The Apache Newsletter" Issue #1 Issuer: The Apache Software Foundation -- 15th August, 2003 Editor: Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---------- Please enjoy!! Best Regards, -- Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Eyebrowse: wiped out the garbled characters!
Hello, Noel. CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am afraid that it is determined by GeoIP.so or something , which translated files are really used. -- Peoples, (especially, those in Korea and China) Please review the eyebrowse page (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/) and let me/us know whether "it worked!" well or not. I assume there's not "garbled characters" any longer, however, I have no way to review/confirm it. Thanks in advance. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. Probably, we need "Traditional Chinese" (Big5) version, too :-) Anyone volunteer to it?? -- On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:55:40 -0400 (Subject: RE: Eyebrowse: wiped out the garbled characters!) "Noel J. Bergman" wrote: > Please review. I have installed converted properties files and restarted > Tomcat. > > --- Noel > > -Original Message- > From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:tetsuya at apache.org] > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 4:41 > To: Noel J. Bergman > Subject: Re: Eyebrowse: wiped out the garbled characters! > > > Hello, Noel. > > Thanks. I converted chinese and korean properties files, > using, > $ mv eyebrowse_ko.properties eyebrowse_ko.orig > $ mv eyebrowse_zh_CN.properties eyebrowse_zh_CN.orig > $ native2ascii -encoding EUC-KR eyebrowse_ko.orig eyebrowse_ko.properties > $ native2ascii -encoding GB2312 eyebrowse_zh_CN.orig > eyebrowse_zh_CN.properties > > I think you can do the other (european) ones. :) > > -- Tetsuya. (tetsuya at apache.org) > > On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 01:15:26 -0400 > (Subject: RE: Eyebrowse: wiped out the garbled characters!) > "Noel J. Bergman" wrote: > > > Here are ALL of them, including the ja one you already did. Just send me > > back whatever you convert, along with the command(s) you use to do it. > :-) > > > > --- Noel - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Site/index.html
I've done ... only www.apache.org and jakarta.apache.org "EU Software Patents protest action" pages are now obsolete. Henri, you do not have to "copy and rewind" ... anymore. just do cvs update. Yaaay. -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. By the way, can anyone resize the "ApacheCon" Logo? It's tooo fat! On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 13:32:05 -0400 (EDT) (Subject: Jakarta Site/index.html) Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What's the plan for this? [The redirect we have on the index.html at > the moment]. > > When are we going to remove it. How do we ensure that people don't blow it > away when they push up news for a release? > > I did: > > cp index.html redirect.html > cp index2.html index.html > cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic update index.html > cp index.html index2.html > cp redirect.html index.html > rm redirect.html > > I think. Should this be an update script in that directory? > > Hen --- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Accredited Herrmann Brain Dominance Instrument Facilitator) http://www.hbdi.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] The Apache Newsletter Issue #1 Released
Forgot to mention: We have decided to publish "The Apache Newsletter" not monthly but bi-monthly, "The Apache Newsletter Issue #2" will be published around 15th October or thereabouts. To receive the newsletter in e-mail forms, please see http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce and follow the subscripition guideline. I'll solicit you for the articles/contributions of various projects in the ASF (apache.org) at the beginning of next month. Have a nice day -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:27:24 +0900 (Subject: [ANN] The Apache Newsletter Issue #1 Released) Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Apache Newsletter Issue #1 Released > ------- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Accredited Herrmann Brain Dominance Instrument Facilitator) http://www.hbdi.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PATCH] add Commons pool to the binaries download page
Applied (and enhanced for source douwnload page). Many thanks! __ Tetsuya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> __ P.S. Could you please use "cvs diff -u" in the next time? On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 20:36:47 +0200 (Subject: [PATCH] add Commons pool to the binaries download page) Dirk Verbeeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Commons pool isn't listed on the binaries download page. > This pacht will correct it, please apply. > > Thanks > Dirk > > cvs -z9 diff binindex.xml > Index: binindex.xml > === > RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site/xdocs/site/binindex.xml,v > retrieving revision 1.300 > diff -r1.300 binindex.xml > 397a398,413 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Apache Newsletter Draft] News as to Jakarta General Project from Aug. to Sep.
Dear Jakarta General Mailing List Subscribers, Hello, Apache newsletter is in progress of preparing the second all-Apache newsletter, news from August to September 2003, which will be published in the middle of October 2003. === What is "The Apache Newsletter"? === http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ the 'Apache Newsletter Issue 2' will be appeared at http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200309.html and the editorial deadline will be 00:00 GMT-7000, 11th October. We lowered the barrier to entry -anyone will be able to easily contribute, as prepared the ApacheWiki (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi). If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue2 and fill up what you want to append. (A few editors per (sub)project would be highly appreciated, indeed) Of course, if you do have a hesitation on writing article via Wiki, please send e-mails to me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> directly. Probably, the former newsletter (Apache Newsletter Issue #1) might be able to give you some hints in writing the articles. cf. http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200307.html I am waiting your contributions. Please e-mail to me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> whensoever you have a question about this newsletter. Hope to hear from you Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --------- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (The Apache Newsletter Issuer/Editor) http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Patch for jakarta-site2/.../whoweare.xml
Okeydokey. Please write and put the patch *text* directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Attachment files with some extensions would be spripped off) I am willing to apply -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:12:12 -0400 (Subject: Patch for jakarta-site2/.../whoweare.xml) otisg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm a Jakarta PMC member and would like to add my email address > and a bit about me to jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/whoweare.xml. > Unfortunately, I don't have the priviledges to commit my change, > so attached please find the patch. > > I would appreciate it if somebody could apply this change on my > behalf. > > Thank you, > Otis Gospodnetic > > > > Get your own "800" number > Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more > http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag --- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Patch for jakarta-site2/.../whoweare.xml
Done. -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:19:00 -0400 (Subject: Re: Re: Patch for jakarta-site2/.../whoweare.xml) otisg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here it is and thank you. Otis > > ---cut here--- > Index: whoweare.xml > === > RCS file: > /home/cvspublic/jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/whoweare.xml,v > retrieving revision 1.96 > diff -u -r1.96 whoweare.xml > --- whoweare.xml2 Oct 2003 08:55:48 - 1.96 > +++ whoweare.xml3 Oct 2003 12:17:57 - > @@ -129,8 +129,10 @@ > Translation of Tomcat, works on apache/tomcat connectors and > SSL documentation. > > > -Otis Gospodnetic > +Otis Gospodnetic (otis at apache.org) > > +Otis has been an active member of the +href="http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/";>Lucene team since > 2001. > > > Diane Holt > ---cut here-- > > > > > > Get your own "800" number > Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more > http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag > > > On Fri, 03 Oct 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > > > > Okeydokey. > > > > Please write and put the patch *text* directly to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (Attachment files with some extensions would be spripped off) > > > > I am willing to apply > > > > -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > > On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:12:12 -0400 > > (Subject: Patch for jakarta-site2/.../whoweare.xml) > > otisg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I'm a Jakarta PMC member and would like to add my email > address > > > and a bit about me to jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/whoweare.xml. > > > > Unfortunately, I don't have the priviledges to commit my > change, > > > so attached please find the patch. > > > > > > I would appreciate it if somebody could apply this change on > my > > > behalf. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Otis Gospodnetic > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your own "800" number > > > Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more > > > http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag > > > > --- > > Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Commit Message (Re: Footprints to the mail)
This is my post in the distant past, however, maybe contains useful information for the new committers. I subscribe to all the -dev lists in jakarta.apache.org and often see "Where is my commit message?" questions from new committers. Yes, there is a reason. 1. Remote moderators have not moderated your commit message yet 2. You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) are not a subscriber to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Maybe, the best way would be the subscription to -allow lists. For example, you can post to general-allow-subscribejakartaapacheorg in order to join to "do-not-receive-messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] but can-post-messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. The same goes for all the -dev and -cvs lists. (XX-dev-allow-subscribejakartaapacheorg ... etc.) Hope this helps. -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 17:20:03 +0900 (Subject: Re: Footprints to the mail) Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Danny, Peter. > > On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:53:07 +0100 > "Danny Angus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > By the time you see: > > > Mailing the commit message... > > cvs has done the important thing, any problems after that are >99% likely to be > > with the mail system. > > d. > > Probably it was my problem. I did not subscribed to site-cvs > (subscribed as another mail account). I think this caused the problem > and my mails remained in the queue. > > I suspected that it was due to the problems of WinCVS, but it was not. > What a relief! > > Again, Thank you very much. >> Peter & Danny > > Sincerely, > > - > Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.terra-intl.com/ > (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) > http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ > > > ----- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: announceapacheorg (again)
FYI (for the release manager) Forwarded by Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Original Message --- From:Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Sat, 04 Oct 2003 21:10:57 +0900 Subject: announceapacheorg (again) Hi, I noticed that http://www.opendeveloper.org/ this page collects the news from announceapacheorg. I am trying to modify http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ReleaseManager as well :-) -- I suspect that the mixture of http://jakarta.apache.org/site/elsewhere.html#20030929.1 and http://jakarta.apache.org/site/elsewhere.html#20030926.1 would be the best "Release Announcements"... What do you think? (At least, 3-5 line blurb would be necessary) -- Anyway, **Announcements At Apache** If your project got an consensus on the release of the product, please make use of both the Apache Software Foundation Wide Announcement list and the announcement list for each top level projects. (ASF-Wide Announcement list) http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce Take care, ------- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ - Original Message Ends - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Patch for jakarta-site2/.../whoweare.xml
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:27:50 -0400 otisg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you for the promptness! Okeydoke. By the way, would it be possible for you to update "committers" module: /board/committie-info.txt ?? (You have a sufficient karma, I am sure) The same goes for the other Jakarta (and any other TLPs PMC members!) PMC members. :-) > Otis -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets project.xml
This message was tooo big for ezmlm, so loop back to me :-( Here I attach it. --- tetsuya 2003/10/06 16:01:11 Modified:docs index.html docs/site acknowledgements.html agreement.html binindex.html bugs.html communication.html contact.html contributing.html convert-to-mirror.html cvsindex.html cvsonunix.html cvsonwin32.html decisions.html dirlayout.html elsewhere.html faqs.html getinvolved.html guidelines.html guides.html idedev-rdeclipse.html idedev-rdnetbeans.html idedev-rdtomcat.html idedevelopers.html idiot.html jakarta-site-tags-example.html jakarta-site-tags.html jakarta-site2.html jakarta-site2b.html jars.html jon.html jspa-agreement.html jspa-position.html legal.html library.html mail.html mail2.html management.html methodology.html micromail.html mission.html newbie.html newproject.html news-2000.html news-2001.html news-2002.html news-2003.html news.html os.html other-releases.html overview.html packageversioning.html proposal.html roles.html source.html sourceindex.html understandingopensource.html vendors.html versioning.html whoweare.html docs/site/news 200206.html 200207.html 200208.html 200209.html 200210.html 200211.html 200212.html 200301.html 200303.html 200305.html editor.html index.html docs/site/pmc 01-01-17-meeting-minutes.html 01-01-17-pictures.html 01-03-19-meeting-agenda.html 01-03-19-meeting-irclog.html 01-03-19-meeting-summary.html 01-04-22-meeting-irclog.html 02-01-30-elections.html index.html xdocs/stylesheets project.xml Log: Added our new AMIGO, "Jakarta-Pluto": left-side navigator --- # See the CVS LOG online for more details ------- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*REMINDER* Re: [Apache Newsletter Draft] News as to Jakarta General Project from Aug. to Sep.
Hi, Jakarta General Mailing List Subscribers, This is a last call for additions for the Aug. to Sep. newsletter. (The Apache Newsletter -- Issue 2 -- http://www.apache.org/newsletter/) There's still time to add articles about your favorite jakarta (and jakarta-related) products to the wiki page. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue2 The editorial deadline will be 00:00 (PDT), 11th October. # 07:00 GMT, 11th October If you have a hesitation in writing the article using Apachewiki, please directly write it and let me know. I'll upload it and pick it up as an article in the next newsletter. Yes, if you do have a hesitation on writing article via Wiki, please send e-mails to me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> directly. Anticipating nice blurb :-) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:02:58 +0900 (Subject: [Apache Newsletter Draft] News as to Jakarta General Project from Aug. to Sep.) Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Jakarta General Mailing List Subscribers, > > Hello, > > Apache newsletter is in progress of preparing the second all-Apache > newsletter, news from August to September 2003, which will be > published in the middle of October 2003. > > === What is "The Apache Newsletter"? === > http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ > > > the 'Apache Newsletter Issue 2' will be appeared at > http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200309.html > and the editorial deadline will be 00:00 GMT-7000, 11th October. > > We lowered the barrier to entry -anyone will be able to easily > contribute, as prepared the ApacheWiki > (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi). > > If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue2 > and fill up what you want to append. > (A few editors per (sub)project would be highly appreciated, indeed) > Of course, if you do have a hesitation on writing article via Wiki, > please send e-mails to me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> directly. > > Probably, the former newsletter (Apache Newsletter Issue #1) > might be able to give you some hints in writing the articles. > cf. http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200307.html > > I am waiting your contributions. Please e-mail to me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > whensoever you have a question about this newsletter. > > Hope to hear from you > > Sincerely, > > -- Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > - > Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.terra-intl.com/ > (The Apache Newsletter Issuer/Editor) > http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ > > > ----- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ Apache Software Foundation Committer: http://www.apache.org/~tetsuya/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ANN] The Apache Newsletter Issue #2 Released
The Apache Newsletter Issue #2 Released Thanks to all the contributors/editors of the newsletter, the first "The Apache Newsletter" (Issue #2) has arrived at last. http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200309.html (News as to August/September, 2003) "The Apache Newsletter" could be published as a result of the outgrowth of "Jakarta Newsletter" and the newsletter can cover all the projects including infrastructure, incubator et cetera. This is the second issue of "The Apache Newsletter", ASF-Wide newsletter. NOTE: We announced that the newsletter would be "monthly", however, we'd decided to make it bi-monthly. You can read it through http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200309.html http://www.apache.org/newsletter/index.html and if you are the subscriber of the "Apache Announcement List" (http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce), the e-mail version will be arrived at this "Apache Announcement List" in a few days. I want to thank to those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate mailing lists [1]. if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to ApacheWiki [2] or mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] - http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html [2] - http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue3 -- "The Apache Newsletter" Issue #2 (August - September, 2003) Issuer: The Apache Software Foundation -- 15th September, 2003 Editor: Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ------ Please enjoy!! Best Regards, -- Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ Apache Software Foundation Committer: http://www.apache.org/~tetsuya/ FingerPrint: E420 3713 FAB0 C160 4A1E 6FC5 5846 23D6 80AE BDEA The Apache Newsletter: http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
Hi, I am now thinking of the *unified* skin (of Apache Forrest) for Jakarta SubProjects... Now, Jakarta-POI uses Apache Forrest for building the site. http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ I think Jakarta-Tapestry will make use of it. too. (What about Struts?) -- I prepared "Jakarta-Skin" which is similar to "POI-skin" (Look and feel: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/) and I want to put it into jakarta-site2, so that other projects can re-use. Any thoughts? --------- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ Apache Software Foundation Committer: http://www.apache.org/~tetsuya/ fingerprint: E420 3713 FAB0 C160 4A1E 6FC5 5846 23D6 80AE BDEA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 18:19:13 +0100 "BAZLEY, Sebastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would using Forrest cause problems with this? > Or perhaps it would make things easier? Forrest can create PDF file. I think it suffice the users' needs. > At present, the XML is converted using Anakia, with separate VSL fiels for > the site and printable versions - there are some XSL stylesheets, but I > think these are rather out of date. It's related to the fact that you did not login to minotaur (www.apache.org) via ssh and have not done $ umask 0002 $ chmod -R g+w /x1/www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter $ cd /www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/ $ cvs update yet. -- Anyway, I can forrest version of JMeter website, within a few days (Really easy). -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:02:52 +0100 (Subject: RE: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project) "BAZLEY, Sebastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's related to the fact that you did not login to minotaur > > (www.apache.org) via ssh and have not done > > $ umask 0002 > > $ chmod -R g+w /x1/www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter > > $ cd /www/jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/ > > $ cvs update > > yet. > Sorry, I don't understand what you mean here. > The XSL stylesheets are part of JMeter, and are used to transform the XML > into HTML. > Changes have been made to the VSL (Anakia) stylesheets, but not the XSL > versions, so we cannot currently use XSL to generate either set of > documentation, as far as I know. Sorry, me too at a loss :-) Maybe you can find "new" xsl file via jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl ... Just copy to jmeter module and cvs commit, I guess.. -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
Maybe you might have already known, ws-site/ws-axis/ws-soap [1][2][3] are now using the similar skin. (I put the skin into respective modules directly) Sure, I re-used the avalon-tigris, however, the Forrest 0.5.1 avalon-tigris did not suffice our gratifications. I am sure that I can post patches to forrest-dev, however, I am afraid it would affect seriously to avalon-site in the future. What would you say, Avalon-Team? (See http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/) -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [1] - http://ws.apache.org/ [2] - http://ws.apache.org/axis/ [3] - http://ws.apache.org/soap/ On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:14:55 +0200 (Subject: Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project) Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick Chalko wrote: > > Ask the Forrest group I am sure they will include as part of the normal > > build. > > > > Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > ... > >> I prepared "Jakarta-Skin" which is similar to > >> "POI-skin" (Look and feel: http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/) > >> and I want to put it into jakarta-site2, so that other > >> projects can re-use. > > It looks like the avalon-tigris skin we have in Forrest. ATM this skin > is not very much maintained, so if you would like to send patches, we > can make the project use that one. > > -- > Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - verba volant, scripta manent - > (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) > - > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ Apache Software Foundation Committer: http://www.apache.org/~tetsuya/ fingerprint: E420 3713 FAB0 C160 4A1E 6FC5 5846 23D6 80AE BDEA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:25:56 +0100 "BAZLEY, Sebastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe you can find "new" xsl file via > > jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl > > > > ... Just copy to jmeter module and cvs commit, I guess.. > > As far as I know, the JMeter stylesheets are unique to JMeter, so I doubt if > that would work. D'oh... Sorry. I had a little confused. Okeydokey. What I proposed here, was not "Please use Forrest, all the Jakarta-XX-Team", but "Dear Jakarta-XX-Project, which want to use Apache Forrest ...". I've heard that Struts Team once discusses about the usage of Forrest, so I said "What about Struts?" As for JMeter, I think now it is working well. (Yes, I sent patches for the re-build of the site using Anakia, the other day) Just I took a look at the current JMeter site and found that there's still "Copyright 1999-2001" statement at the bottom of each pages. So, I told you the procedure of updating website how-to. Thank you. -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
Before that, could you please answer my (innocent) question? Why was there no "PDF-Rendering" function in the default avalon-tigris? I thought that Avalon-Team did not want the PDF files because PDF could have been big enough to be downloaded. Sure, I know that it would be related to skinconfig/disable-pdf-link @ skinconf.xml, though :) -- Rather, I thought that "jakarta-skin"/"ws-skin" naming would make sense (Just a copy and reuse of avalon-tigris, it would be), if it would be integrated into the default Forrest "skins" dir. ($FORREST/dist/shbat/) context - skins - |--avalon-tigris |--common |--forrest-css |--forrest-site |--jakarta-site |--krysalis-site |--template |--ws-site ... Make sense? -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. Tapestry Version: http://www.terra-intl.com/jakarta/tapestry/ On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 19:32:53 +0200 (Subject: Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project) Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > > Maybe you might have already known, ws-site/ws-axis/ws-soap [1][2][3] > > are now using the similar skin. (I put the skin into respective > > modules directly) > > Sure, I re-used the avalon-tigris, however, the Forrest 0.5.1 > > avalon-tigris did not suffice our gratifications. > > > > I am sure that I can post patches to forrest-dev, however, > > I am afraid it would affect seriously to avalon-site in the > > future. > > If the skin is just a better version of the same skin it would be ok to > patch it. If the skin will depart a lot from that, then the Avaloners > would need to decide to cooperate in it. > > In any case, the krysalis-site skin has many more features, and I'm > getting it ready to be able to switch forrest-site to use that one, with > of course the traditional Forrest colors. So you can look in that skin > to eventually add the extra features to the avalon-tigris skin. > > In any case, if you send teh patches for avalon-tigris I'll take a look > at them. > > -- > Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - verba volant, scripta manent - > (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) > - - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ Apache Software Foundation Committer: http://www.apache.org/~tetsuya/ fingerprint: E420 3713 FAB0 C160 4A1E 6FC5 5846 23D6 80AE BDEA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forrest skin for Jakarta-XX project
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:26:50 -0700 "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >(What about Struts?) > At the moment, Struts uses hand-crafted XSLT stylesheets that preceeded > the existence of Forrest (and Maven), but we are considering some > alternatives based on both Forrest's and Maven's site generation > facilities. Some proof-of-concept prototypes (not necessarily polished) > of the Struts main page, using three different Forrest skins, are at: > Krysalis style: http://www.twdata.org/dakine/site/ > Avalon/Tigris style: http://www.twdata.org/dakine/site1/ > Forrest/XML Apache style: http://www.twdata.org/dakine/site2/ Looks very nice. :) Kool. > Personally, I would prefer either the Krysalis or Avalon/Tigris styles > to the default Forrest/XML Apache style, but that's just me. Various > Struts developers have various opinions, as well as concerns about the > processing time implications of using Forrest. Likewise > We also use XSLT transformations for other reasons as well (i.e. > generating tag library descriptors and reference documentation), and > already enjoy nice things like print-friendly styles without the > navigation menu -- to say nothing of XHTML-compatible generated > output -- so I don't feel any great sense of urgency to make a > migration. I'm personally not going to have time to even think about > it in the very near term, due to day-job commitments. But, it's > certainly an option for us to share a common look and feel. In my mind, there might be four options: 1. Create "jakarta-skin" and put it (them) into jakarta-site2 2. Create "jakarta-skin" and put it (them) into xml-forrest. We have to wait the next release of Forrest (0.5.2 or 0.6), though 3. Update "avalon-tigris" skin / Patch to it (them) We have to wait the next release of Forrest (0.5.2 or 0.6), though 4. Create "jakarta-XX-skin"s and put it (them) into respective modules. We can make use of it (them) immediately Currently, Jakarta-POI adopts #4 style. Now, I am thinking of the Forrest-ization of Jakarta-Tapestry. (http://www.terra-intl.com/jakarta/tapestry/) Therefore, I am thinking of the #1/#2/#3 options. Any thoughts? -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [POLL] pmc alumni
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> { ] Whatever
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> [ ] I've Got A Better Idea (Please Tell Everyone About It)
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(I re-subscribed here a little while ago :-)
Cool. (Could I POLL for it, by the way? :-)
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Re: [website][patch] Add instructions for setting up mail to newbie.xml
Hi, Phil and all. Did you make it? If you failed, I think i can apply the patch for it (I am *not* subscribing to infrastructure@, now). -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. You can edit .forward (or .qmail) via not only "vi" but also "emacs", as a matter of course :-) On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:37:06 -0700 (Subject: Re: [website][patch] Add instructions for setting up mail to newbie.xml) Phil Steitz wrote: > robert burrell donkin wrote: > > hi phil > > > > IIRC infrastructure is the right place to submit patches for the main site. > > > > - robert > > Thanks, Robert. I made and submitted a patch against > site/xdocs/dev/committers.xml and submitted it there. ----- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ Apache Software Foundation Committer: http://www.apache.org/~tetsuya/ XML Consortium Member: http://www.xmlconsortium.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [website][patch] Add instructions for setting up mail to newbie.xml
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:06:34 -0700 Phil Steitz wrote: > I did make the patch and posted it in an email to infrastructure@ on > 11/23. It has not been applied. Okey. Applied. Many thanks. Please cross-check. > If we do get this applied, we should change the Jakarta Newbie page to > point to this for mail account setup questions. Added. -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just in case you're curious
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:19:41 -0500 Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > The reason everything is quiet here is all decisions are being made on > private lists now. It would be okay unless all the decisions will have been made on infrastructure@ list. ... ;-) -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just in case you're curious
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:23:25 -0500 (EST) Henri Yandell wrote: > Agreed. Andy's highlighted the issue and I'm sure there'll be more > aggressiveness on pushing threads that don't need to remain closed to this > open forum. About the issue of openness and closeness: board@ is *public* for all the ASF members. (Any ASF members can be a *read only member* to the board@ list) board@ is open list? close list? WS (WebServices) project discuss most of the important issues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] at the same time. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is open list? close list? -- I think that jakarta should choose an appropriate method which suffices for most of the jakarta committers' needs. For example: Create topics for discussion -- PMC list Vote -- general@ (or another appropriate list : important issues) PMC list (trivial issues) Report to all the jakarta committers -- general@ -- Also, please read this (Roy T. Fielding said @ incubator list at Fri, 26 Sep 2003) >> all the jakarta committers and PMC members -- > A release requires 3 +1 and a majority of those voting, wherein > the only people allowed to vote are the PMC responsible for that > code. In other words, the usual rules apply -- it is simply harder > to get the votes. -- > According to the bylaws, the only people authorized to make > decisions > on behalf of the ASF (including the decision to release code to the > general > public) are officers or the PMC responsible for the project. All other > votes are to be ignored or considered advisory only, and no I don't care > how long some of our umbrella projects have been ignoring that fact. It seems that most of the committers in jakarta do not know this fact. Before the discussion of *openness/closeness*, I think we should have common understanding on this. Regards, -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Volunteering for PMC membership
Hi, I, Tetsuya Kitahata (tetsuya), would like to help oversight of the jakarta websites. I request my nomination for PMC membership. Maybe this can be expressed as "jakarta-site2 PMC". Note: The creation of jakarta-site2 project has been voted here last year and adopted already. Thanks, -- Tetsuya Kitahata. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. As I've said before, if ASF Board would have socialized the marketing activities into "Public Relations and Communications Committee", jakarta-site2 PMC could have helped such a committee, i am sure. On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:39:31 +0100 (Subject: Volunteering for PMC membership) Dirk Verbeeck wrote: > Hi, > > I, Dirk Verbeeck (dirkv), a jakarta-commons (and slide) committer, > would like to help grow Jakarta in whatever capacity I can and I > request my nomination for PMC membership. > > Regards, > Dirk ----- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta: Confederation or Single Project?
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:24:00 -0500 (Subject: Re: Jakarta: Confederation or Single Project?) Harish Krishnaswamy wrote: > How about Jakarta = "Java Development"? Then, they all seem in place, no? > > -Harish +1. Agreed. Why don't Jakarta adopt "EU"-like governance style? (Board => Secretariat of the United Nations: Jakarta Sub-Projects can have the status of "Nation" Jakarta itself is "United Nations". Other TLPs are "Nation"s) People often hold of the wrong end of the stick and assume that bylaws is for bylaws. -- NO -- Bylaws is *for* the components of each communities/organizations. I'd like to see -- > Jakarta PMC: responsible for jakarta-site/jakarta-site2 > Tomcat PMC: tomcat and related code > Struts PMC: struts and related code > Jakarta Commons PMC: ... > Tapestry PMC: ... > ... styled governance (what Noel mentioned) in jakarta tlp. I am not a laywer, however, there might be no legal problem. Regards, -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Henri Yandell wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Costin Manolache wrote: > > > > > > > >>IMO it would be sad if projects like struts or tapestry leave jakarta - > >>since they are closely related to web development and "server side" java > >>( compared with log4j or regexp for example ). > > > > > > So, Jakarta = "Server side web development" is the subtitle. > > > > Log4J, POI, ORO, Regexp, all of Commons except HttpClient, Latka and > > FileUpload, Gump, BSF, BCEL are the ones that seem most out of place in > > that they don't focus on that subtitle. > > > > Slide would be if a WebDAV TLP were to arrive. > > > > Just as a flamebait suggestion :) > > > > Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta: Confederation or Single Project?
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:36:20 -0500 Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > One example might be a lawyer working closely w/ a community (for > whatever reason) - that lawyer might be providing tremendous input and > participation, but has no need/use for committership. That person > could still be a member of the PMC. Well said. Also, i think PMC members do *not* "have to develop" source codes. For example, look at ORO. I've heard ORO team does not have 3 *active* committers, however, I believe some of PMC members (not ORO committers) can vote at oro-dev and can take *responsibilities* to the codes, when the vote of ORO X.Y.Z release. ORO-dev archive (open) memorizes who vote(d) and who are/were responsible to the votes. Anyways, I think Jakarta can have Jakartan-Way. Good luck, folks. Cheers, -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just in case you're curious
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:38:54 -0500 Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > What could be something that is sensteive in an open source community? > > This is new direction. Gray areas should be well exposed. If you are > > ashamed of it, don't do open source community. > There are lots of things. Committer votes, for example, are considered > a sensitive issue. Inter-personal disputes. I agree. Also, I think "[PROPOSAL] As it ever were" mail was very reasonable. However, just one question came to my mind. Have The Committer Votes (I mean, [VOTE] in to elect new committer) to be taken place at Jakarta PMC list? ... This is very sensitive issue (maybe causes inter-personal dispute), i guess. Could you please explain more? Thanks in advance. -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. > Vic, if you've been paying ANY attention, you'd know that what we are > trying to do is just the opposite - get *every* committer in Jakarta > onto the PMC, *eliminating* this needless boundary. Well said. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just in case you're curious
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:12:02 -0500 Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > Here in Jakarta (as well as other projects, I assume), the sub-projects > do committer votes in public. Some people outside of Jakarta feel that > this is improper, and should be done in private to ensure that open > discussion can happen in a way that doesn't hurt peoples feelings. Yes, HTTP Server Project / APR Project folks often feel that it is improper, it seems. (I am not a HTTPD guy ;-) I've heard such opinions on other lists before. Well, I think it that vote jakartan-way (to vote new committers in) is reasonable as well as the way other (single projects -- which do not have many subprojects under their umbrella) projects had chosen is. Only one concern. Maybe Jakarta has many *zombie* committers. I hope current (jakartan) voting rule hadn't affected to the *inflated zombies* phenomena. To eliminate *zombie* committers would be one of the critical issues for Jakarta PMC, I imagine. (This is also board members' concern, I imagine) Anyways, I think Jakarta can have Jakartan-Way. Good luck, folks. (And thanks) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were
arta PMC, we will be unable to continue to > > extend write access to any jakarta-* CVS to that individual. > > > > Each PMC member will also be subscribed to the Jakarta PMC list. > > *However, all subproject business can continue to occur on this DEV > > list > > as always!* In the future, we anticipate that the PMC list will be very > > low-volume. (Really, we do!) > > > > The only change is that the owner of the DEV list must also serve as > > the > > PMC steward for the subproject. The steward must submit monthly status > > reports for the project and immediately report any new Committers to > > the > > PMC list. > > > > But, other than that, it will be business as usual. > > > > Accordingly, we ask that the Committers to this subproject nominate the > > following individuals to the Jakarta PMC. Please check all that apply. > > > > [ ] $committer > > > > Any committer who wishes to opt-out may notify the Jakarta chair > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). If you opt-out, regardless of the vote, you will > > not > > be subscribed to the PMC list, and your write access to jakarta CVS > > repositories will be removed. (Sorry, but it's part of the package > > now.) > > > > ### - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ Apache Software Foundation Committer: http://www.apache.org/~tetsuya/ XML Consortium Member: http://www.xmlconsortium.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just in case you're curious
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:10:27 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I realize that arguing with you on this will have no effect, but I want > > to keep working to extinguish the meme you keep trying to plant. > +1, Andrew seems to have boundless energy in this regard ;-) ! It seems that he/she/it is a *winter* person ;-) (Maybe, reincarnation of yeti) -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just in case you're curious
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: > > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > > Here in Jakarta (as well as other projects, I assume), the sub-projects > > > do committer votes in public. Some people outside of Jakarta feel that > > > this is improper, and should be done in private to ensure that open > > > discussion can happen in a way that doesn't hurt peoples feelings. > > Well, I think it that vote jakartan-way (to vote new committers in) > > is reasonable as well as the way other (single projects -- which do > > not have many subprojects under their umbrella) projects had chosen is. > Once the PMC situation is squared away by any of a few approaches, there > should be no reason to hold Committer or PMC Member votes in public. Makes sense. Thanks. I'd subscribed to all the -dev lists and downloaded all the archive messages from jakarta.apache.org/mail/**. I found it that if PMC situation would be squared away, PMC list could take over the place for committer votes, too. I had a stats of the contributors' messages and sometimes felt "I do want to vote him/her in to XX subproject if I were a committer of this (sub)project" where I am not a committer nor a PMC Member. (So, I often did "non-binding" votes -- +1 to excellent persons ... Right? >> Adam @ gump) I think you folks can choose the appropriate persons for the jakarta-committership, granted you won't hold Committer votes in public. -- I remember that one of the ASF members has already invented nice voting machine program @ minotaur (wrapper program for qmail, if i remember correctly) -- Maybe you/we will be able to make use of it (Then, PMC list's traffic won't be increased). Hope this helps. Cheers, -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
