Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting

2005-11-04 Thread Marius Mauch
Thierry Carrez wrote: Paul de Vrieze wrote: Oh god help. This also points to another reason why this is not such a good idea. Writing guideXML is a lot more work than writing an e-mail format file (ciaran's proposed format for those who didn't recognize it). Also having double files contain

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting

2005-11-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:50:42 +0100 Jan Kundrát <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 04 of November 2005 02:50 Lance Albertson wrote: > > After reading through the heated thread, I have yet to see your > > valid point of pushing xml for such a simple task. All I have seen > > is two 3rd grade kids

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:19:15 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10-11-2005 21:33:48 +, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > We need to establish *one* authoritative source of news. We can't > > do that if we simultaneously launch several sources of news all at > > once. We have to launch *one

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 00:58:14 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Feedback from people who have something useful to say would be very > much welcomed, assuming of course that they've read the GLEP. Things that I think are generally ok as is: - news item format - news item distributio

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two

2005-11-14 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:25:33 +0100 Thierry Carrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:37:15 + Stuart Herbert > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | For example, there's no real reason why GLSA's couldn't been > > delivered | via this at some point (alth

Re: [gentoo-dev] Agenda for Council meeting, Tuesday, November 15th, 20:00 UTC

2005-11-14 Thread Marius Mauch
> Voting > - GLEP 41 (requested by Homer Parker) > > Discussion > - Portage Tree signing status (requested by Marius Mauch) > - Q&A session Ehm, I didn't request anything. Grant did ;) Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, ther

[gentoo-dev] Why arch-specific make.conf files?

2005-11-15 Thread Marius Mauch
Hi, Was just about to finally commit the elog related config stuff into make.conf just to notice (again) that there are 14 (in words: fourteen) different make.conf files there, with almost all of them just differing in CFLAGS and CHOST (only exception is make.conf.mac which isn't used anymore in a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why arch-specific make.conf files?

2005-11-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:54:01 -0500 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 20:26 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 November 2005 20:19, Marius Mauch wrote: > > > From my POV those vars should be set in the p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why arch-specific make.conf files?

2005-11-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:52:28 -0500 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 20:19 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Was just about to finally commit the elog related config stuff into > > make.conf just to notice (a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why arch-specific make.conf files?

2005-11-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:50:47 -0500 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 03:30 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 14:54:01 -0500 > > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2005-11-15

Re: [gentoo-dev] Need Help: Creating a new third party package

2005-11-16 Thread Marius Mauch
Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 16/11/2005-15:43:25(-0800): Zou, Yixiong types I read it somewhere that the category name "mycat" has to be an entry listed in /usr/portage/profiles/categories. I added "mycat" into the categories, still the same result. Plus, this doesn't make sense because th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Need Help: Creating a new third party package

2005-11-16 Thread Marius Mauch
Dan Meltzer wrote: On 11/16/05, Zou, Yixiong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I am trying to create a gentoo package for some internal software. I followed several Howtos online and created the ebuild file for my package. But somehow ebuild always return me the same error over and over again:

Re: [gentoo-dev] punting the use.defaults feature

2005-11-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 00:06:38 +0100 Thomas de Grenier de Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:23:19 +0100 > "Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 11:55 -0800, Michael Marineau wrote: > > > > > For users who do like the functionality jus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:09:57 -0800 Corey Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (apologies for the messed up time in my last message) > > On Friday 18 November 2005 06:53 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > We've seen why this won't work in the past... Too few users know > > how to do proper testing. We

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:32:55 +1100 Ben Skeggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, the most important reason for the GLEP (IMO) is giving AT's > r/o access to CVS. When working on bugs, it's always fun to find out > that the problem has already been resolved and just hasn't made it to > your loca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:19:17 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 18 November 2005 18:09, Homer Parker wrote: > > Now that GLEP 41 (AT/HT) has passed, we need to designate a > > subdomain for their email. This will cover AT/HT's as well as forum > > help, so needs to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Around 425 non-existent packages in p.mask?

2005-11-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:18:26 -0400 "Luis F. Araujo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, i wrote a script to try to get a list of those orphaned entries, > and it looks like there are more than 400 packages/ebuilds which are > still listed in p.m but that don't exist in the tree anymore. > (A bunch of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Possible solution: email subdomain

2005-11-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 03:39:08 -0700 Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's the proposal again. If there's an issue with it, shoot it > down, but from here, it certainly seems to fit the bill. Again, > I'd /love/ to say I was the one that came up with it, but I wasn't. > =8^) > > * give [AH]T

Re: [gentoo-dev] Around 425 non-existent packages in p.mask?

2005-11-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:26:03 +0200 Alin Nastac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > >>If not, i *personally* could go slowly removing the entries, along > >>with other people willing to help, or any other _better_ suggestion > >>to deal w

[gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-23 Thread Marius Mauch
So, along with the gpg signing stuff came along again the question to have multiple hash formats in digests and manifests. Current status is that portage only generates MD5 checksums and can verify both MD5 and SHA1 checksums. Creation of SHA1 is also possible but has so far been disabled as older

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:04:32 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok I have three modifications that are pending to go into portage: > - The first simply enables creation of SHA1 checksums (and others if > implemented like with the second mod), if you want to try it you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:49:20 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 24 November 2005 09:32, Marius Mauch wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:04:32 +0100 > > > > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ok I have three modific

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:33:34 +0100 Marc Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > [..] > > So much for background information, now to the actual question: > > Would you rather have now the ability to create multi-hash digests > > and Manifests

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-25 Thread Marius Mauch
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:49:23 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Hi everybody, a little question that I'd like to be answered (so that | we can make it a sort of rule). | How should manpages that are generated be managed? | | The common sense and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-25 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:04:32 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would you rather have now the ability to create multi-hash digests and > Manifests with the result of a short and mid-term larger portage tree > (in the long term the format will be phased out hopefully) o

[gentoo-dev] Removal of auto-use in portage-2.0.54

2005-11-26 Thread Marius Mauch
Hi, As I said earlier, we'd like to get rid of the nasty auto-use feature, including the support for the USE_ORDER variable. Right now we intend this for 2.0.54 (might not be the final version number) unless there are major objections to it. Marius -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc-3.4 migration guide

2005-12-03 Thread Marius Mauch
Matthias Langer wrote: 2.) emerge -e world on a system with lot of packages will most likley fail somewhere during the process for various reasons. Fixig the problem (for example by unmerging the package which causes it) and restarting the process is not an option, as this may cost you lot's of t

[gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2005-12-06 Thread Marius Mauch
Hi, As promised here the GLEP for Manifest2 support: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0044.html This will NOT be voted upon the next council meeting on thursday ;) Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let ther

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2005-12-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 22:58:06 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:04:53 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | As promised here the GLEP for Manifest2 support: > | http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0044.html > &

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2005-12-06 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 18:39:10 -0500 Olivier Crete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-06-12 at 17:04 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: > > As promised here the GLEP for Manifest2 support: > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0044.html > > I see nothing about GP

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2005-12-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:15:49 +0100 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 07 December 2005 04:04, Marius Mauch wrote: > > As stated in the GLEP, gpg is outside the scope of this. As for the > > questions, per entry sigs would invert one of the main goals (siz

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:49:59 + Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is your [belated] reminder of the December council meeting. > future reminders will not be late anymore ... we've proven that we > cant remember it so i've gone ahead and crontab-ed future reminders > to go out on t

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-08 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:49:59 + Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is your [belated] reminder of the December council meeting. > future reminders will not be late anymore ... we've proven that we > cant remember it so i've gone ahead and crontab-ed future reminders > to go out on t

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Marius Mauch
Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:56:37AM +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: current agenda: decision on multi-hash for Manifest1 You mean the Manifest2 GLEP, or did I miss something? No, I mean the mail I sent to council@ a few weeks ago (relating to an earier -dev thread

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Marius Mauch
Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:15:15AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: No, I mean the mail I sent to council@ a few weeks ago (relating to an earier -dev thread). Oh, the tree signing stuff. Got it. Sorry. Nope, not the signing stuff ;) But some update on that would be nice

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 42 (news) round six

2005-12-18 Thread Marius Mauch
Brian Harring wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 06:23:55AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:50:47 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | You haven't stated how the 'package manager' will trigger the user's | reader of choice for these targets. Should also extend this to al

Re: [gentoo-dev] December 15th Meeting Summary

2005-12-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:47:21 -0500 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this months meeting wasnt too eventful, kind of quiet ... on the > agenda: > > - Marius: decision on multi-hash for Manifest1 > there was a bit of hearsay about why the council was asked to > review/decide on this issu

Re: [gentoo-dev] December 15th Meeting Summary

2005-12-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:45:04 -0500 solar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you do that please set it as a blocker for the .54 release. > Reintroducing ChangeLog/metadata.xml to Manifests would be a undesired > regression. Nothing in the portage as of <=.53 make direct use of > those two files and t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing description for the xml global use flag

2005-12-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 00:19:01 +0200 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:48:52PM +0200, Petteri R??ty wrote: > > > >>/usr/portage/profiles/use.desc:xml - Check/Support flag for XML > >>library (version 1) > >> > >>I think the xml use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml (GLEP 46)

2005-12-26 Thread Marius Mauch
Stefan Schweizer wrote: That will increase the sync time for all of our users - can we please keep this info out of the sync-tree? I do not see why this is necessary to be in the tree - we can do fine with a webbased database for that. The additional time is not significant as this will be a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml

2005-12-26 Thread Marius Mauch
Marcelo Góes wrote: Fellow Gentooers, Here is a draft of an enhancement proposal that should allow upstream information to be included in metadata.xml: http://dev.gentoo.org/~vanquirius/glep-0099.txt It is authored by ciaranm and me (vanquirius). Please comment :-). Will those new tags su

Re: [gentoo-dev] Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml

2005-12-26 Thread Marius Mauch
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:43:19 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Will those new tags support the "restrict" attribute? Is restrict something that's in use and working, or did it never get off the drawing board? Well, it's list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-06 Thread Marius Mauch
Lance Albertson wrote: I never meant that each subproject can't have their own goals. They need to have those of course! I was more directed that there isn't a person in charge of all the subprojects just to keep track of them (Not governing them). i.e. if subproject foo is working on adding feat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 18:59:40 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I originally thought of putting it on my devspace, but using GuideXML > there is a bit tricky, at least for me (as xsltproc seems to refuse > working on the pure xml directly). > > So I was thinking if we h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 01:17:06 -0600 Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Lance Albertson wrote: > > | What if instead of having proj/en we did herd/en on www? Of > > course, that | doesn't help the whole "GuideXML is hard" bit. I > > like the idea of using | RST,

[gentoo-dev] pdf use flags

2006-01-16 Thread Marius Mauch
Checking for pdf use flags I just found that there are currently at least three different flags for pdf stuff in the tree: - pdflib (global) - cpdflib (global) - pdf (several local ones) All of them mean basically the same (one exception, see below). I suggest we unify them to one single global "p

[gentoo-dev] sqlite3 use flags

2006-01-17 Thread Marius Mauch
On a similar matter as the pdf use flags, just noticed that there are six local sqlite3 use flags, all with the same meaning. So instead of adding another one I'll make this a global one later today. Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothi

Re: [gentoo-dev] pdf use flags

2006-01-17 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:54:49 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Checking for pdf use flags I just found that there are currently at > least three different flags for pdf stuff in the tree: > - pdflib (global) > - cpdflib (global) > - pdf (several local ones) Jus

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2

2006-01-21 Thread Marius Mauch
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 15 January 2006 01:11, Mike Frysinger wrote: - we add an emerge flag (say '--debug-build') which adds "debug-build" to FEATURES IMO this is pointless and redundant. But otherwise the proposal looks good. Marius -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2

2006-01-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:45:34 -0500 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 21 January 2006 23:12, Marius Mauch wrote: > > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Sunday 15 January 2006 01:11, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > > - we add an em

Re: [gentoo-dev] pdf use flags

2006-01-22 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:54:49 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So unless there are any objections to this I'll make the change this > weekend. Done. -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, &#

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2006-01-23 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:04:53 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > As promised here the GLEP for Manifest2 support: > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0044.html > > This will NOT be voted upon the next council meeting on thursday ;) Ok, made

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:17:24 -0500 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I figured it was time for a bit of cleaning... I ended up writing a > really crappy script for stable to do a check of whether package.mask > entries were really referen

Re: [gentoo-dev] package.mask cleanups

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:45:40 -0500 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was attempting to be helpful and filter out valid packages from the > list. I could have been an ass and been like "Yo I think > package.mask is bloated go clean it" and not given a list at all, but > that is not very

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ebuilds and USE flags

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:27:35 +0100 Rene Zbinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am writing an ebuild for a program written in perl. This program > has the dependency of gnuplot but with the png flag enabled. What is > the gentoo way to enable this USE Flag for gnuplot when I emerge my > program. i

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: emerge snapshots

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:12:38 +0900 Kalin KOZHUHAROV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all. > > During the last many months, more than once an idea occured in my > mind, so I decided to share it. > > > 2006-01-25T01:34 kalin $ dd if=/dev/brain of=gentoo-dev bs=1 > count=3292 > > Do you think it w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of auto-use in portage-2.0.54

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:12:45 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > As I said earlier, we'd like to get rid of the nasty auto-use > feature, including the support for the USE_ORDER variable. Right now > we intend this for 2.0.54 (might not be the fina

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:32:00 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Loeser wrote: > >>> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:06:12 -0800 Donnie Berkholz > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> What's wrong with the original idea of just making any unported > >>> ebuild pull in all of modular X (

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] making the tree depend on portage

2006-01-25 Thread Marius Mauch
Sent this to -portage-dev [1] last month with little feedback on the idea itself, so starting another try. From: Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [RFC] making the tree dep

Re: [gentoo-dev] bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-25 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:23:20 +0100 Sven Köhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'd like to see, that bootstrap.sh unmerges any old gcc > >> (emerge -C \<${gcc package that we just compiled}) > > > > that's a bad idea imo > > > > let the user decide which gcc they wish to have > > But doesn't bo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2006-02-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:27:56 +0100 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:04:53 +0100 > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > As promised here the GLEP for Manifest2 support: > > http://www.gentoo.org/p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for Comment

2006-02-11 Thread Marius Mauch
Klaus-J. Wolf wrote: Hi, I am new to this list, but I am not new to Gentoo. Would you please discuss a GLEP draft, which I believe it might improve the usability of Gentoo? Text at: http://www.seismic.de/gentoo/gentoo_mask_proposal.html Technical details still missing... Ignoring the hug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Duplicated entries in use.desc and use.local.desc

2006-02-12 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 17:49:26 +0100 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > R Hill wrote: > > a global USE flag duplicated in use.local.desc could be used to > > give specific information about exactly what effect the flag has on > > a certain package, or if for some reason it does differ sligh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Duplicated entries in use.desc and use.local.desc

2006-02-12 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:49:55 -0500 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > IIRC the idea behind duplication was not to use a flag for different > > purposes, but have a generic description in use.desc (like "doc: > &

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI component naming collision

2006-02-28 Thread Marius Mauch
Paul de Vrieze wrote: On Sunday 26 February 2006 22:29, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 02:19:40PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Side note: if the packages in question are fetch restricted, you're screwed, and will not be able to add them to the tree. Actually, there is a so

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 0042 (news) final draft

2006-03-03 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 00:19:47 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Attached is the final draft. No substantial changes since last time, > just wording cleanups and a few clarifications. You'll be able to see > it here in an hour or three (check the dates!): > > http://www.gentoo.org/p

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep 0042 (news) final draft

2006-03-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:05:35 + Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 05:20:06 +0000 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | "* Portage must extend portageq to implement a command which > | returns whether or not the profile u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on VMWare - few ideas

2006-03-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:32:55 +0900 Kalin KOZHUHAROV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is it worth: > For windoze people it will be a great way to experience/play > with Gentoo Where is the big difference to booting a livecd in vmware? Ok, you can write to the disk (image), but I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Glep 46 Draft: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml

2006-03-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 15:29:58 -0300 "Marcelo Góes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I am basically mailing this new draft on behalf of Ciaran, I just > ok'd it :-). Please read and comment. general comment: Maybe this is an imlementation thing, but it would be good to list the actual DTD fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change layout of distfiles

2006-03-07 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:02:06 + Kurt Lieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 07:59:14AM -0500 or thereabouts, Alec Warner > wrote: > > I believe the Infrastructure team also doesn't want to change the > > layout, but I'll leave it up to them to comment on their own > > policy

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a code of conduct

2006-04-03 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:38:48 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dont get me wrong, i hate documenting common sense as much as the > next sane guy, but it seems Gentoo has come to the point where this > needs to be done > > many thanks to the Ubuntu guys and to solar for doing the re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Google Summer of Code and Gentoo

2006-04-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:39:14 -0400 Thomas Cort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alec Warner wrote: > > >always portage portage portage. :) Can't you people think of another > >project to pick on^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H that needs help? > > > > > What about a Gentoo stats? Hmm, maybe the server component

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-28 Thread Marius Mauch
Grant Goodyear schrieb: Some questions that need to be answered: * Can the repo be converted while maintaining the history? * How long does a full checkout take? * How much disk space does a full checkout require? * Is there a viewcvs equivalent available? * Others that I can't think of right

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Marius Mauch
Jakub Moc schrieb: Well, it should not be loaded first of all... Hence why I want to have an ability to turn off the coldplug thing *completely* on udev level. I don't have any use for such automagic stuff, it just complicates things instead of making them easier. Well said. Marius -- gentoo-d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 04 May 2006 16:29:56 -0700 Michael Kirkland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would suggest opening a middle ground tag, where things can be > moved to from "~arch" when they work for reasonable configuration > values, but still have open bugs for some people. More work for devs, yay! Mariu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-16 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 16 May 2006 16:15:49 +0100 Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If noone has any strong reasonable objections, I'd like to add a > Paludis profile to the tree. This would use Paludis as the default > provider for virtual/portage (which is a less than ideal name, but > that is anoth

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-18 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 18 May 2006 11:44:40 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > | 4) Will Paludis ever become a Gentoo Project? > > > > Pretty unlikely, past events considered. Personally I kind of like > > having commit access to my own code... > > I thought we (Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Signing everything, for fun and for profit

2006-05-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 19 May 2006 15:13:15 +0100 "Chris Bainbridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > find /usr/portage -path '/usr/portage/metadata' -prune -o -path > '/usr/portage/distfiles' -prune -o -path '/usr/portage/packages' > -prune -o -type f -exec cat {} > /tmp/blah \; > time gpg --detach-sign -a /tmp/bla

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 19 May 2006 15:13:48 +0200 Stefan Schweizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marc Hildebrand wrote: > > Otoh LC_ALL=C could help if you intend to use a .utf-8 locale as > > root, though. So if it does help solving bugs and causes no > > trouble, why not. > > > ok, we have prepared a patch no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Signing everything, for fun and for profit

2006-05-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 19 May 2006 12:28:04 -0400 Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who signs the Manifests? Why are some unsigned? Is there a single > Gentoo Security Key (like I know Slackware has and some other distros > to ensure the authenticity of their files)? Because the whole signing stuff isn't offic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Signing everything, for fun and for profit

2006-05-19 Thread Marius Mauch
Disclaimer: I'll only targeting technical aspects here, I won't go into any security analysis. On Thu, 18 May 2006 23:45:17 +0200 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3) Manifest / Manifest2 > > This is an implementation of a checksum / signature scheme. It is > described in GLEP 44: > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 19 May 2006 19:27:18 +0200 Stefan Schweizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also I would want to have it in the stable branch anyway because of > bugreports by first-time users who do not use the latest version of > portage. It is better to add it now while in pre-release phase than > after t

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLEP 49 - Package manager requirements

2006-05-20 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 20 May 2006 15:41:37 +0100 Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The primary package manager is the package manager that sets the > > standards for the tree. All ebuilds in the tree must function > > with the primary package manager. As the primary package manager > > se

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2006-06-01 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:00:13 -0500 Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul de Vrieze wrote: [Thu Jun 01 2006, 02:44:39PM CDT] > > I would like the council to discuss GLEP 49 as has been discussed on > > the list some weeks ago. It is about the package manager > > requirements. > > Inciden

Re: [gentoo-dev] Glep 49 (g2boojum's version)

2006-06-02 Thread Marius Mauch
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:17:06 + Ferris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grant, > Apologies; I can't find your note from yesterday, so I can't respond > to the correct topic. > One question just occurred to me; if it's been addressed before, > apologies about that, too. Your requireme

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] i18n project

2006-06-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 15:11:50 +0200 Jan Kundrát <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > b) Localization of Gentoo-developed applications (portage, > gentoolkit,...) including their manpages I don't really like this one. Documentation, sure, but for the tools themselves I think it could cause more problems th

Re: [gentoo-dev] July Council Meeting: Requested Agenda Item

2006-06-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 01:00:43 +0200 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 11:37 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > > Have the GWN posted to -core in a sane time period prior to it's > > release. I seriously doubt anyone cares about whether the > > publication is always "on tim

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-10 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:37:15 +0200 Markus Ullmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, so after figuring out open problems (thanks to kloeri and > various other people for help here), we now have a resolution that > should satisfy all involved parties here. This should adress > dostrow's demands as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-11 Thread Marius Mauch
Stefan Schweizer schrieb: Marius Mauch wrote: On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:37:15 +0200 Markus Ullmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Okay, so after figuring out open problems (thanks to kloeri and various other people for help here), we now have a resolution that should satisfy all involved p

Re: [gentoo-dev] backups: remove Portage cruft?

2006-06-12 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:06:01 -0700 "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 03:41:56PM -0500, Mike Doty wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Molle Bestefich wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Portage takes up a lot of space and time when do

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (News) revisited

2006-06-12 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:26:18 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stephen Bennett wrote: > > * Portage must provide a way for external programs to obtain a list > > of all repository identifiers for a given system. It is assumed > > that this will be in the form of a ``portageq`` command

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defining the Tree: a proto-GLEP.

2006-06-12 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 00:00:43 +0100 Stephen Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My current idea is to draw up a formal specification of what ebuilds > are allowed to do, and what to assume about the environment in which > they run, as well as defining the formats of everything under > profiles/, m

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:00:19 +0200 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 07:37 -0400, Caleb Tennis wrote: > > I'd like to propose some form of ability to post user comments to > > GWN stories. I suppose a full blown CMS system would work, > (Ab)using a blog for that mig

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Useflags: qt, qt3, qt4?

2006-06-20 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:29:10 +0200 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 20 June 2006 19:10, Joshua Jackson wrote: > > I don't want to go down the path again of having two nearly > > identical flags for a different slotted version of a framework. I'd > > like to see j

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Useflags: qt, qt3, qt4?

2006-06-20 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:18:54 -0600 Steve Dibb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > I don't mind the qt3/qt4 flags for packages that support both, but > > could we also have a qt flag that selects the "preferred" version > > (or for pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Remaining PMS todo list etc

2008-03-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:32:41 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > There's an updated, pre-built copy of current PMS at: > > > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~spb/pms.pdf > > Thanks for keeping up with this. > > > * 174335: Some ebuild use FEATURES. Can we get the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: New build types

2008-03-19 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:59:01 + Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rémi Cardona wrote: > > > What would be the point of such a change? What problem are you > > trying to solve or to improve? > > > Secondly efficiency; in the case of a pbuild it could be run from > within the PM; for somet

[gentoo-dev] changes to staffing-needs page and project pages

2008-04-02 Thread Marius Mauch
Since a few weeks ago project pages can contain a new section to list open positions within the project that require fresh blood (thanks to neysx for implementing this). Historically those were only listed centrally http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/staffing-needs/index.xml, which had a number

Re: [gentoo-dev] escaping variables in sed expressions

2008-04-15 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:17:54 +0200 Frank Gruellich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Santiago M. Mola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 15. Apr 08: > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) > > Currently is use ':' as sed delimiter when paths are involved. I'd > > also like to hear from you abou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving some packages around

2008-05-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 12 May 2008 02:58:55 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote: > - bison and flex should get out of the system package set, what > clearer than moving them out of sys-*? "system" and the sys-* categories don't have much of a relationsship, so that's no argument IMO. > Ye

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